Which Fire Emblem Army is the Strongest? Ranking Every Last One of Them using Science!

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Ever wondered which Fire Emblem characters would beat the others in a fight? No? Do you not lie awake every night wondering? Really...? Am I just weird?
Well Regardless, this video uses statistics to determine which Fire Emblem army definitely has the highest power level!
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If you want to double check me or want to use them for your own nefarious purpose, the links to my stats are here:
Base Stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Average Stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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Timestamps:
02:05 - The Rules
03:55 - Round 1
06:08 - Round 2
07:33 - Round 3
10:15 - Round 4
12:40 - Who has the Strongest Army?
15:31 - Thanks for Watching!

Пікірлер: 408

  • @SethJV
    @SethJV10 ай бұрын

    Those numbers mean nothing when Seth solos all of them.

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    So true

  • @WannabeVTS

    @WannabeVTS

    10 ай бұрын

    At level 1

  • @enymetouche2558

    @enymetouche2558

    10 ай бұрын

    Seth can't even solo his own game.

  • @willbill6942

    @willbill6942

    10 ай бұрын

    *Laughs in Forsetti*

  • @WannabeVTS

    @WannabeVTS

    10 ай бұрын

    @@enymetouche2558 literally does at level 1

  • @greenchickpea9605
    @greenchickpea960510 ай бұрын

    Everybody gangsta till Marth starts spawning infinite generics💀

  • @GBlockbreaker

    @GBlockbreaker

    5 ай бұрын

    Quatro my beloved

  • @jaydenroberts2615

    @jaydenroberts2615

    4 ай бұрын

    @@GBlockbreakerwhat’s funny is that every one of those infinite generics are individually better than Bantu

  • @JJSquirtle

    @JJSquirtle

    3 ай бұрын

    OR I COULD USE THE WARP STAFF

  • @johnwise9811
    @johnwise981110 ай бұрын

    The shepherds after not placing first in any single round: *Pick a god and pray*

  • @Aurirang

    @Aurirang

    5 ай бұрын

    Guess they prayed to Grima to destroy the competition. :D Or to Robin which is.. essentially close enough (or the same thing, if his offhand comment in the toothpaste game is anything to go by)

  • @drewlaw2192

    @drewlaw2192

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Aurirang What comment does he make. I barely anything from engage outside of gameplay and yunaka and could builds

  • @Aurirang

    @Aurirang

    5 ай бұрын

    @@drewlaw2192 He kinda admits to being a Felldragon himself, which is kinda odd all things considered. Awakening never really delved into the whole subject wether or not Robin and Grima are the one and same "person". The most obvious answer would be that the future Robin was simply possessed by Grima. Many theories also say that he IS Grima which would also be pretty much supported by that comment, that he is in fact a fell dragon.

  • @byronvonedmund

    @byronvonedmund

    Ай бұрын

    Shepherds proved that anything can change AETHER

  • @GeoSage1137
    @GeoSage113710 ай бұрын

    The man literally did everything in his power to stop Chrom, taking away abilities and all that. Yet the legend still pulls through. No wonder he, his daughter, and his best friend got added into smash bros

  • @jaydenroberts2615

    @jaydenroberts2615

    4 ай бұрын

    I’m so mad. Ephraim, Hector and Lief would’ve been all more unique than Lucina and Chrom. Robin was a good call since he’s a unique class relative to what she have. But imagine a dedicated axe fighter and lance fighter from the coolest GBA lords. Also Lief could’ve had a similar schtick to Byleth in wielding multiple weapon types but with different effects to Byleth. But no, we needed more falchion wielders smh

  • @thelegacyofgaming2928

    @thelegacyofgaming2928

    Ай бұрын

    @@jaydenroberts2615 Also Claude from 3 Houses for a bow user

  • @banbanthebandit4002
    @banbanthebandit400210 ай бұрын

    Imagine how insanely overpowering the shepherds would be with the child units thrown in too, makes me think that maybe child soldiers was a great idea and now I’m questioning why we stopped doing that.

  • @davivanatorable

    @davivanatorable

    10 ай бұрын

    Morals be damned, we need to find the speed limit to how many people we can kill

  • @24hr-Gaming

    @24hr-Gaming

    10 ай бұрын

    People complained that the child units are too op even though they're optional content so they were made less fun in Fates. Plus shipping is icky or something like that.

  • @megarotom1590

    @megarotom1590

    10 ай бұрын

    @@24hr-Gaming yah... it really worked in awakening...and really didn't in fates

  • @toumabyakuya

    @toumabyakuya

    10 ай бұрын

    @@megarotom1590 That is because the child units were thought as part of the story in Awakening. They were an afterthough in Fates.

  • @darknessknows1235

    @darknessknows1235

    10 ай бұрын

    @@toumabyakuya Yeah, even though Lucina was the only one part of the story in Awakening, they left it open enough that the integration and pasts of the other Future Children was perfect. Meanwhile in Fate they got knocked up and tossed them in a pocket dimension before deciding to send them to war.

  • @Speedwinghere
    @Speedwinghere10 ай бұрын

    I expected awakening to win out due to its child units but you excluded them and it still happened lmao. Adding monsters like third generation Morgan into the mix and allow skills so half of them have galeforce is when things get extra spicy.

  • @nightwish1453

    @nightwish1453

    10 ай бұрын

    even still there are some parent characters besides chrom and robin that aren't a pushover though it's hard to vary as unlike other games a character's use can completely change in the context of a base game playthrough vs optimal builds that can be used for apotheosis

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Though if you start including skills and stuff like that, the Toothpaste Brigade wins every single round because Emblem Rings are just insane

  • @jfp4life

    @jfp4life

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@skeletonwar4445 Toothpaste brigade I'm stealing that one

  • @JackOfen

    @JackOfen

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jfp4life It's in the video...

  • @JuliaKeyoto
    @JuliaKeyoto10 ай бұрын

    The only reason Seliphs Army wasn’t sweeping is because they didn’t have Forsetti on Coirpre. Clearly a sign of a bad player smh

  • @mystergamer0750

    @mystergamer0750

    10 ай бұрын

    I swear Seliph's would've won if it weren't for Arden being the dad. 230 growth total when the average male growth total in 1 gen is 255 is pretty bad (265 if you do the most popular pairings and even the worst possible pairings you can do give average of 243, which is higher than the illegal Arden everyones dad growths). That is missing 25 for male and 12,5 for female. Since there are 12 children that inherit growths and each have on average 27 level ups to go, I did the math and it would mean that Seliph's army is missing in total 71 stats due to Arden, and that is not factoring in holyblood. Still that only adds to 3rd and 4th round. Pretty sure Arden also loses some base stats but no idea how many tho. If it's more than 30 Seliph's army would rise a spot on the 1st round which could lead to a win.

  • @TwoHeadedMeerkat

    @TwoHeadedMeerkat

    10 ай бұрын

    So what you're saying is everyone should haVE DONE THE *DEW!!! **_HELL YEAH!!!!_*

  • @zxylo786

    @zxylo786

    10 ай бұрын

    >Forsetti not on Ced Bruh

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark

    @DrewPicklesTheDark

    10 ай бұрын

    Jokes aside I actually like Tailtu x Lewyn and Claude x Erin (or w/e names they go by these days). TAiltu x Lewyn allows Tinni to use tornado and gives you Forseti on chapter 6 to a unit that will be mounted. The glaring weakness is lack of pursuit, but eh, never been that much trouble for me. Claude x Erin allow Fee to actually utilize staves and gives her access to physic after promotion. The sage class itself is so absurdly broken, that with Claude's growths, Ced will max every stat save strength and will still shred through anything with just lightning and is also an amazing staff user too. Forseti Ced is kind of just overkill imo, even though it's canon.

  • @willbill6942

    @willbill6942

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@DrewPicklesTheDark100% agree. Horsetti is so much more useful for it's join time and the mount in the second half of gen 2. Ced doesn't need any help, he'll be about as good with Shine as Forsetti, plus he's a foot locked staff bot during real battles

  • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799
    @billclintonsmagicbeefarm579910 ай бұрын

    I can believe that Seliph's army is canonically stronger than everyone else, holy blood is just built different

  • @Red-jq6bw
    @Red-jq6bw10 ай бұрын

    I find hilarius how Marth's army managed to place so high in some regards and so low in others. Tho, it's easy to understand the reason for that to happen

  • @elijahsanders7362
    @elijahsanders736210 ай бұрын

    I think the fact that you nerfed seliph’s army and the Shepards and they placed in the top 2 is hilarious

  • @princedelta3980
    @princedelta398010 ай бұрын

    Now can we see which antagonistic force has the strongest army?

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    Mayhaps

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Lyon and his 160 reinforcement map enters the chat:

  • @AzumarillConGafasBv

    @AzumarillConGafasBv

    5 ай бұрын

    @@skeletonwar4445 infinite reinforcement chapter 4 Thracia soldiers: Hello there

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    5 ай бұрын

    @@AzumarillConGafasBv Infinite void curse reinforcements alongside permanent air bombardment from engage's Camilla paralogue: Heyyyy

  • @GRK_2024

    @GRK_2024

    3 ай бұрын

    wyvern ambush reinforcements of bern solos

  • @xenofes2
    @xenofes210 ай бұрын

    The ranking number is just the total for all of a unit's stats, so you could've totaled it up pretty easily for the older games. It's an incredibly useless metric in-game, like you said, though.

  • @ness6099
    @ness609910 ай бұрын

    I understand the pairings would be a lot to account for regarding FE4, but at the same time almost all of them have a "mostly canonical" pairing that you can just plug and play. Lex/Ayra, Lewyn/Erinys, Beo-*sees your profile pic*-Finn/Lachesis, etc. and going without these make things a little weird. For example, Ced would have a pretty solid 60% strength growth and easily cap it out... but he can't ever USE the strength stat, whereas things like Forseti would impact unit value if accounted for (at least the stat boosts) and perhaps change some things. Pairings like Brigid you can give her Holyn to max out Febail's growths and make him an 80 hp GOD, but mostly from a practical analysis standpoint it takes away utility like +20 speed, an uber bow, and the ability to resurrect the dead from them. Doesn't matter too much, this video was clearly a lot of work already and if you want to you can always say "other games have infinite reclassing/enough levels so every unit can reach their caps" to invalidate any advantages FE4 gives its units. God help 5 skill base Edelgard trying to hit Forseti Ced though...

  • @MtelH
    @MtelH10 ай бұрын

    This was an interesting take on ranking an army's strength. It actually makes a lot of sense considering how the stories play out for each of the armies.

  • @myewn
    @myewn10 ай бұрын

    That Seliph phone case that popped up out of nowhere was a jumpscare, since that's my art lmao.

  • @helpivebeencursedbyawizard1513
    @helpivebeencursedbyawizard151310 ай бұрын

    love the term "toothpaste brigade"

  • @yoder6162
    @yoder616210 ай бұрын

    Spoilers: You know, it shouldn't be a surprise that the Shepherds won strongest army since there was DLC of them fighting and beating all the other Fire Emblem armies throughout history, and at least in Fates, the Awakening cast were as useful as some of the later recruits in the game.

  • @Flamelance_Accendo

    @Flamelance_Accendo

    10 ай бұрын

    That doesn't seem like a fair comparison. Because that is DLC content any game would have been capable of having in the present day.

  • @angrybisharp373

    @angrybisharp373

    10 ай бұрын

    Thought the dlc just had them beating up the lords and main antagonists And are the lords really the best units in their own games?

  • @CuteHimbo

    @CuteHimbo

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@angrybisharp373It's not just the Lords. It's not the entire armies, but also not just the Lords. You can fight Clair, Ayra or Joshua for example.

  • @CuteHimbo

    @CuteHimbo

    10 ай бұрын

    I... Honestly don't get your final point about Fates. The only Awakening characters in it are Selena, Odin and Laslow and... Yeah, they aren't exactly the best units in this game.

  • @nightwish1453

    @nightwish1453

    10 ай бұрын

    @@CuteHimbo the awakening trio in fates is and odd topic in terms of power strength, we know they can be BS in awakening and in fact amongst the children in that game they are very hard to screw up and even then if you did they were still workable just not as optimized. in fates they kind of stand out in different scenarios though how a usual person would play fates nowadays some of their niches have faded away at this point like rallybot laslow. in conquest odin somewhat stands a chance but the other two struggle at finding a use

  • @pokemongirl5674
    @pokemongirl567410 ай бұрын

    was surprised on a few of these but this was very entertaining and educational to watch. Good job for making me laugh multiple times as the visual gags really worked :) 👍

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts891610 ай бұрын

    I'd say the most ridiculous army I've ever seen in a tactical RPG would be Prier's from La Pucelle Ragnarok. Massive stat numbers, capable to recruit monsters, there's an optional upgrade that allows the capture of "illegal" monsters and an item gives infinite movement, Pass *and* the ability to ignore chasms that can be traded before a unit's turn is over (which doesn't require being close to the other unit).

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    huh. Guess I have a new trpg to check out

  • @xanafer

    @xanafer

    10 ай бұрын

    Disgaea universe in general has ridiculous power scaling

  • @TARDISES

    @TARDISES

    10 ай бұрын

    I'd argue that international era SRW is up there too, because if we're talking game mechanics, then three words: Enemy Phase Spirits. Imagine having the ability to guarantee incoming attacks miss every single time - spirit commands can enable that (particularly Alert and the ally-targetable version Foresee), and the international era of SRW (so V, X, T, and 30, the latter of which has a few especially monstrously strong units as well, one particular 7-pilot unit can practically solo even the intended-as-an--optional-challenge 10-wave stages within only one or two turns because it has stuff that absolutely shatters the action economy) allow spirit commands to be used on enemy phase. It is as broken as it sounds, with the only limiting factor being pilot SP.

  • @toumabyakuya

    @toumabyakuya

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TARDISES And then you start to think about which mechas you can use in said games. Eva unit 01? Check. TTGL? Check. Mazinger Zero? You guessed it, check.

  • @ThisismineIguess

    @ThisismineIguess

    10 ай бұрын

    then she stacks Braveheart-

  • @fatalfrostbyte
    @fatalfrostbyte10 ай бұрын

    This video is a dream come true, with all the work and research you put into it

  • @defaultstar6721
    @defaultstar672110 ай бұрын

    You're telling me TMS #FE's 7 J-pop idols from modern somewhat magical Japan is not comparable to the likes of fully militarized, mostly-comprised-of-adult armies of FE?

  • @imickeymoose8370

    @imickeymoose8370

    2 ай бұрын

    Counterpoint: each of those idols have hundreds if not thousands of HP, even at level 1. Based on the standard used for this vid, they stand a real chance

  • @JetblackJay
    @JetblackJay10 ай бұрын

    One mistake all the Gen 2 units in Seliphs armies don't work for this video the other units would just be the substitute characters you get for failing to marry anyone in the game

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander747210 ай бұрын

    It's like "my dad could beat up your dad", if fire emblem's dads lived long enough to get two of them in a room together.

  • @jacobdominguez4787
    @jacobdominguez478710 ай бұрын

    I know why you didnt but considering how 3h lets you recruit the entirety of the other armies into your army Im curious how that would sque the results. Since that goes from say the best 10 units in one army to the 10 best units in the whole game. I have the same question for the Fates: Revelations army

  • @harrisonmurphy5727
    @harrisonmurphy5727Ай бұрын

    Such a cool concept and very well done!

  • @athath2010
    @athath201010 ай бұрын

    Question about deployment limits: For Seliph's army, are you using the total number of gen 2 units in the game as his deployment limit, or the total number of gen 2 units you can have at the same time as his deployment limit? The latter would technically be his deployment limit, as it would be the highest number of units he could deploy in the same map.

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    I decided to leave out a cap for him since I don't fe4 has a clause for maximum units you can field. If they're in your castle - you can deploy them.

  • @aleisterleopold6229
    @aleisterleopold622910 ай бұрын

    In truth the strongest army is probably the army of the laguz alliance. The largest army (with actual numbers) lead by Ike. With a strategist soren

  • @Bike-chan

    @Bike-chan

    10 ай бұрын

    Meh, seliph army still solos.

  • @marcoantonioserrano5844
    @marcoantonioserrano584410 ай бұрын

    Banger Video, looking forward to more :)

  • @KawixSkittle
    @KawixSkittle10 ай бұрын

    I'm glad Leif was doing well.

  • @chillstoneblakeblast3172

    @chillstoneblakeblast3172

    10 ай бұрын

    There's No way Leif would have taken back Thracia without his Cream of the Crop Soldiers.

  • @enymetouche2558
    @enymetouche255810 ай бұрын

    This was balanced against Thracia since the start.

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Thracia is balanced against Thracia from the start too, so it's thematically appropriate

  • @celticwind4122
    @celticwind412210 ай бұрын

    This must’ve taken quite a while to edit it all do the research from each game. Props man, that’s impressive

  • @ivanlagayacrus1891
    @ivanlagayacrus189111 ай бұрын

    "wow this video is really well made for such a low view count, i wonder why-" *4 minutes ago* im sorry brother, its in my blood FIRST!

  • @freetoplayking7362
    @freetoplayking736210 ай бұрын

    I wonder what would happen if we include feats for each army (like Ike beating Ashera with an army that has Makalov on their side) Also, spoilers: The shepherds have Robin, someone who turned the tide of a sea battle when his side was out numbered by SETTING ALL BUT ONE OF THEIR BOATS ON FIRE AND RAMMING THEM INTO THE ENEMY BOATS *THEY HAVE CRAZY ON THEIR SIDE, OF COURSE THEY'D WIN*

  • @Aurirang

    @Aurirang

    5 ай бұрын

    Nowadays this would be a straight up warcrime. :D But he definitely has the highest headcount out of all tacticians.

  • @AzumarillConGafasBv

    @AzumarillConGafasBv

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Aurirang how is war fun without war crimes?

  • @themaskedswordmaster2714

    @themaskedswordmaster2714

    5 ай бұрын

    Let’s not forget fighting on an actively erupting volcano for a terrain advantage? Mans crazy

  • @hyperm8
    @hyperm810 ай бұрын

    Now I was thinking the Adrestian Army would be #1 but that's because I thought you were ranking these armies in a completely different manner, that is by feats. Long story short: monsters, giant robots and missles

  • @thunderknight4149

    @thunderknight4149

    10 ай бұрын

    I mean then we ask the question, do the have Agarthan support?

  • @rotciv557

    @rotciv557

    10 ай бұрын

    Ike solo'd a goddess, forget his army he would win a feat's match by himself. Hell, Robin + Chrom would also be ridiculously powerful featswise since they can easily solo their whole campaign by themselves thanks to pair-up.

  • @hyperm8

    @hyperm8

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rotciv557 Awakening pair up is just retarded lmao but I'm talking about feats lore wise. I can see Ike being an unstoppable force too but don't forget Byleth is a time manipulating God. Alm, Celica and Alear also have access to time shenanigans. I can see why the armies were ranked stat wise and not lore wise.

  • @thunderknight4149

    @thunderknight4149

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rotciv557 Ike did not solo a goddess as he had help from the others in the three other army, including help from another goddess.

  • @vzabimaru7648

    @vzabimaru7648

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thunderknight4149 Ike didn't solo, ofc isn't but Ike is the only one that can beat ashera or else ashera revive again because she's imortal.. even ike with yune blesing is consdering the strongest character in telius

  • @MassEffect94
    @MassEffect9410 ай бұрын

    In the midst of this chaotic battlefield, two heroes stand above the others and meet to have a fateful clash. Haar from radiant dawn, and Seth from Sacred Stones fight to the death. Erika holds her breath as the commander of the Renais army engages the enemy. Jill pray silently on the sideline and ponders why she isn't fighting Seth, as she is the true powerhouse here. Franz runs away, scared he will be somehow compared to Jill and refuses to fight a loosing battle.

  • @AzumarillConGafasBv
    @AzumarillConGafasBv5 ай бұрын

    I was surprised at seeing how Chrom's army was at the top of the list on sheer numbers, however, I'm affraid that Larcei soloes all of them

  • @allenbergman1123
    @allenbergman112310 ай бұрын

    You know you calculated three houses wrong. You said you would do all recruitable characters yet each house had no one else recruited if you were going full Army strength you would have had everyone possible recruited including those from other houses

  • @gg_sam7847

    @gg_sam7847

    10 ай бұрын

    Relatively agree. Personally I would have removed the Church as you "technically" either don't play as them / they all have relatively pre-determined factions that they'd side with outside of the Church. And I'd argue it'd be the only time it'd be appropriate to include DLC as it literally just adds 1 character per faction. Anyway, if he was going to make it so each army was choosing only the strongest for their available deployment slots, it'd be appropriate to force include the characters that are originally in that faction

  • @uuiujyjujujyhqiqjeyi

    @uuiujyjujujyhqiqjeyi

    10 ай бұрын

    But in universe (narrative-wise), why would units not fight for their home army?

  • @findingliospugolini8979
    @findingliospugolini897910 ай бұрын

    Question! For Gen 2’s daddies, why Arden? Meme?

  • @24hr-Gaming
    @24hr-Gaming10 ай бұрын

    I think it's fair to say optimized Morgan is probably the strongest unit in FE. But the Shepherds are pretty good overall.

  • @magtac1
    @magtac110 ай бұрын

    I took away one thing from this video. Arden is my daddy.

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Every time you feel like shit after only doing a little running, remember, that's Arden's legacy in you right there.

  • @isiahjocast1252
    @isiahjocast125210 ай бұрын

    It was a great video no doubt. Howmstever, you forgot the infamous Lyndis' Legion, the most op force Cealin has ever witnessed.

  • @rmkunita164
    @rmkunita16410 ай бұрын

    I just can't take the name "toothpaste brigade" seriously lol. Anyways, great video!

  • @DenisCreatorBreaker

    @DenisCreatorBreaker

    9 ай бұрын

    Would you rather they be named "pepsi fanclub"?

  • @sonickhable
    @sonickhable10 ай бұрын

    Awakening supremacy

  • @decarabiaumbra560
    @decarabiaumbra56010 ай бұрын

    Now we have to compare them based on them having deployment slots equal to that of the game with the strictest level of deployment and then one where the max deployment cap is that of the smallest army i.e. the three houses students.

  • @liamfitzpatrick3812
    @liamfitzpatrick381210 ай бұрын

    Mathematically you did a good job, cannonically I personally feel like the only reason the 3 houses units even got as far as they did is due to the fact that game is about making children into demons. Jokes aside, great video.

  • @teensillustrated8426
    @teensillustrated842610 ай бұрын

    GIga CHAD Ike.... I loved that. This video was surprisingly fun to watch

  • @marcelbelzer587
    @marcelbelzer58710 ай бұрын

    Im just proud that I predicted the first place, great Video

  • @negarhythm
    @negarhythmАй бұрын

    every time you put the cutscene still of alm crying over celica’s body i just started laughing. fun video! i’ll always be on their side even if they suck really bad

  • @beodas5577
    @beodas557710 ай бұрын

    Honestly it's not surprising Three Houses scored so low since all of them are like you said practicaly "villagers". The reason they scored so high in that one round was because Byleth is an excellent teacher with actual combat experience before the game even starts if nothing else.

  • @caspianbchalphy
    @caspianbchalphy10 ай бұрын

    When I clicked on this video I thought it was going to be a combination of stats+amount of units available and the lore about of how powerful are TH crests and their respective items, FE4 bloodlines and their respective items, any similar things those, and how good of a tactician is the tactician aside from being player controlled. This was just that first point but I definitely enjoyed what I saw lol. Probably the easiest and most definitive way to do this but i can tell it wasn’t easy.

  • @caspianbchalphy

    @caspianbchalphy

    10 ай бұрын

    Few things I want to add (mostly me rambling) I said “amount of units available” and not “deployment slots” since I assume in every game those that you don’t field but could are still helping out in the battle just in an offscreen part of the battlefield. In a head to head matchup I’d be thinking armies would use their full might so use their full roster. How good each army’s tactician(s) are is something difficult to prove. If you want to include player input do you count those casual players playing normally or do you go with LTC warp skipping and other shenanigans? Do you want to say that if a battle is more difficult and they get through it then that shows they are good tacticians? If that’s the case then how do you determine difficulty? Average from a limited group of players since you can’t get every fans response? Based on how the characters felt about that battle? Problem with that is I think if had battles that I thought were rather easy but after the battle they acted like it was a slog and may have been (or was close to being) a pyrrhic victory. Do we just use the stuff out of the player’s control and use the decisions made that got them to the battles. So the larger scale strategies as opposed to the smaller scale? I mean sure but there are still issues with that too. How do you determine what strategy is better than another? Someone could be great at larger scale strategies and troop movements but when it comes to a smaller scale they aren’t as good and vice versa. Lastly same problem as before but with the crests, bloodlines, and weapons+items. How do you determine which is stronger.

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah. I figured if I wanted the most accurate answer, I'd need an army of mt own just for research haha.

  • @Chadzerker2
    @Chadzerker210 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! Whilst it was in the rules to exclude capture units for the fates games, I feel Nohr would have pushed ahead if they were counted. Gazak alone can offer great value, whilst Haitaka and Kumagera do great and the others can do well. Hoshido may have won the battle, but not the war. NOHR ALL THE WAY!

  • @Temmie_on_smash
    @Temmie_on_smash10 ай бұрын

    cool video. do it for all the feh units as well :)

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm646010 ай бұрын

    as the master of mid i can tell that you for sure can rank at the top without ever being the best like no one ever was, if there are enough competitions added together that is

  • @XLgamer1055
    @XLgamer10555 ай бұрын

    This was a super cool video! I’m guessing the Revelations army would have only done slightly better than Nohr and Hoshido if they were in play

  • @Gamenut5555
    @Gamenut555510 ай бұрын

    Marcus with the “you tried” ribbon for me 😂😆

  • @mirkwood579
    @mirkwood57910 ай бұрын

    Glad my boi Roy was gaming in this competition. Hard mode bonuses do go kinda crazy.

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMalite10 ай бұрын

    I wonder how characters scale based on whatever stated/shown feats exist. Final boss slayers aside, we got Effie bench pressing trees out here dude. I'd like to see Marth do that

  • @berserkerciaran

    @berserkerciaran

    10 ай бұрын

    And also Charlotte beating a handful of Faceless with her bare hands and knocking over a tree with one punch

  • @nicholasyuen5561

    @nicholasyuen5561

    10 ай бұрын

    Are we forgetting Cherche fought and tamed a wyvern when she was NINE? Granted, Minerva was weak then, but still

  • @ShadowOrochi1377
    @ShadowOrochi137710 ай бұрын

    I don’t know if I’m misunderstanding but won’t Engage and SoV be overall lower due to those games having overall lower growths. I also don’t know about caps but I would think those would also be affected.

  • @crazybakabaka

    @crazybakabaka

    10 ай бұрын

    Idk about Engage, but I do know that growth rates have 0 effect on stat caps for SoV. All units have a max of 52 HP, 40 Res [not that you will ever reach this] and then all other stats average out to a 40 cap. Meaning without DLC, which grants a small stat cap boost, all units have a theoretical stat max of 292. In practice, it’s more like a cap of 252 + Res base. Although SoV doesn’t care about growths very much since stats are more based around class promotion providing a growth correction than a boost, same as 3H.

  • @Kylesico912x

    @Kylesico912x

    10 ай бұрын

    As for Engage, while the growths can be an issue, you also have to factor in skills and emblems giving the characters a boost.

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Kylesico912xI mean... not for this video, you don't

  • @elpopman2055
    @elpopman205510 ай бұрын

    Lorewise is Radiant Dawn/Path of Radiance. They Contain the strongest of Fire emblem characters.

  • @aidanhendricksen4832

    @aidanhendricksen4832

    10 ай бұрын

    And if we want to add skills you get a unit like this Wrath + Resolve + Vantage + (insert tier 3 skill that auto kills here)

  • @zxylo786

    @zxylo786

    10 ай бұрын

    Absolutely not bro. Seliph would sweep all of Tellius in one chapter.

  • @willbill6942

    @willbill6942

    10 ай бұрын

    I'd actually be pretty interesting to break things down by the canonical size. We know in many games that there are a lot more members of your army than you actually control/appear on the field

  • @FinalKaiserKami

    @FinalKaiserKami

    10 ай бұрын

    @@zxylo786 That is some hilarious bait right there bro. Nice try.

  • @Pmu_Sh0wd0wn

    @Pmu_Sh0wd0wn

    10 ай бұрын

    @@zxylo786 If you're talking gameplay wise, Seliph's army wouldn't win unless they can deal with things like Mantle

  • @nickpkmntalos614
    @nickpkmntalos61410 ай бұрын

    A great video, but If this were all the armies against one another wouldn’t the same game armies not be put together ( since they would likely team up against someone else ) or would some games just be so skewed due to the high numbers, also the Laguz royal dragons and beast tribe were left out of army placement in fe10. And no fe9 or was that just be mute do too sequel game. But still all a great video

  • @dW-td2ul
    @dW-td2ul4 ай бұрын

    I feel like the three houses got screwed by units. If you can include recruited units, should they get every unit from every house with only the 2 unique units being the difference maker?

  • @megaspacewaffles

    @megaspacewaffles

    Ай бұрын

    No. It’s assuming you don’t recruit from out of house

  • @john98765333
    @john987653335 ай бұрын

    2:16 You made it sound like they were going to be seperate armies there. lol But did you include all the tower and ruin characters you can recruit after the game for them?

  • @BeefinOut
    @BeefinOut10 ай бұрын

    Is there a way to somehow standardize the stats between the armies in different games? Some sort of flat multiplier per game that wipes out the fact that some games just have way higher stats than other games? Maybe something along the lines of: 1. Calculate the combined stat caps of each individual lord to set a baseline (ie. Eliwood has 180, Ike has 300, or whatever the actual numbers are) 2. Give the lowest total lord a multiplier of 1, and give each other lord a multiplier of (the lowest lord's cap totals) / (the given lord's cap totals). Ie, Ike's army would have a multiplier of 180/300 = 0.6 3. Apply that multuplier to each army's numbers Not only would that address stat bloat in recent years, it would also address things like the str/mag split and the games that have weird stats like charm

  • @blahmaster6k

    @blahmaster6k

    10 ай бұрын

    Three houses with 99 caps for all stats(iirc):

  • @AshenDust_

    @AshenDust_

    10 ай бұрын

    @@blahmaster6konly Byleth has a 99 stat cap, in Charm. They’re just all so high that you’re never gonna reach them without a massive amount of grinding. Dimitri has like 90 strength iirc.

  • @StellarisEmblem
    @StellarisEmblem10 ай бұрын

    8:49 i died 💀

  • @BeautifulGaston

    @BeautifulGaston

    10 ай бұрын

    F.E.A.R. has one meaning: Fire Emblem Alios Rule 34

  • @crazybakabaka
    @crazybakabaka10 ай бұрын

    FE echoes [and Gaiden by technicality] does have a deployment limit… of 20. A number you can only reach in post-game or with DLC.

  • @DarkOfLight42
    @DarkOfLight4210 ай бұрын

    music used in this video? thank you very much!

  • @a.v.5532
    @a.v.553210 ай бұрын

    As a Modern Fire Emblem fan, I'm so happy that Awakening and Engage are pretty high in the final results and that both Fates kingdoms are in top 10.

  • @eliminat20
    @eliminat2010 ай бұрын

    See now I do understand the idea of no skills since all that is tough to calculate and no dlc since you could argue in most cases it theoretical and not all games had it, but I would be curious what the stat turnout would be if that was somehow included. I feel like bottom of the list Three Houses would have probably made its way to middle of the pack or higher (since you would also have to consider skills, crests and maybe even Relics).

  • @jaimeXDgo
    @jaimeXDgo10 ай бұрын

    Kinda poetic how the Awakening's army is the strongest, since there's a DLC where they go through the FE multiverse clapping older armies and by the end they're considered the most powerful army.

  • @justsomedude5727
    @justsomedude572710 ай бұрын

    Roys army: I swear when I finally hit you youre gonna feel it.

  • @smackstar1015
    @smackstar101510 ай бұрын

    14:09 No favors, except for having the single best class in the series in Genealogy.

  • @Anonymos185
    @Anonymos18510 ай бұрын

    Shepards already topped the list at base. Now imagine including the busted-ass skills from Awakening into the discussion, lmao

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman10 ай бұрын

    Im curious, when you made this did you count the use of Emblems towards the Engage army's results? They all add a bunch of raw stats, and theres enough to fully equip almost your whole deployment by the end of the game.

  • @Bicken

    @Bicken

    10 ай бұрын

    It's the same deal as skills where it just adds an unnecessary wrench in the stats

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Skills, Emblems, etc. don't really make sense to include because there's no good way to quantify them as numbers to add. Sure, he could've assigned a point value to each skill based on how generally good it is, but at that point anyone can just say "nu uh" cause they rank their skills differently.

  • @thelostician
    @thelostician10 ай бұрын

    Pretty neat video, but if we were discussing not on a stats standard and discussed the “lore” I doubt awakening would be remotely close to the top, because I wouldn’t consider A royal Retainer, or Royal knight to be weaker than a farmhand, or a Klutzy Pegasus knight riding a sexists Pegasus.

  • @smashblade6482
    @smashblade648210 ай бұрын

    I mean with Awakenings shepherds having access to every class in the game (with minor gender differences) and Donnel, it makes a little sense to me.

  • @ajanis95
    @ajanis9510 ай бұрын

    3:00 Wow man. Doing my Wolves dirty.

  • @Knightgob
    @Knightgob10 ай бұрын

    8:50 come on man at least use incognito But don't blame you, fodlàn is packing fr

  • @MrPaillan
    @MrPaillan3 ай бұрын

    If fire emblem online was ever a thing, it should refer to this video for army balance between players.

  • @onewingedakuma6835
    @onewingedakuma683510 ай бұрын

    Yeah not surprised about the Three Houses lords. Edelgard and Dimitri have 2 exclusive units in their armies(Jeritza/Death Knight and Hubert for Edelgard. Dedue and Gilbert for Dimitri.)

  • @RDA000
    @RDA00010 ай бұрын

    Radiant dawn should be high from Kurthnaga alone. Dude can level entire castles in seconds. Edit: Oh its stat based still guessing RD is top 5.

  • @blakerenimu9033
    @blakerenimu903310 ай бұрын

    Ha! I'm not surprised at all with with The Shepherds winning. Awakening is too easy to break

  • @hectorlackless
    @hectorlackless10 ай бұрын

    Lets go awakening

  • @mintx1720
    @mintx17205 ай бұрын

    Forseti kills everything but loses to hunter's volley and swift strikes.

  • @givecamichips
    @givecamichips10 ай бұрын

    6:45 New Mystery was cracked, why are Darros and Minerva equal at base??

  • @manawing9465
    @manawing946510 ай бұрын

    Would be interesting to make a modded game with unmodified growths from each game somehow to make them fight but the amount of sheer work to get that rolling is absurd.

  • @zxylo786
    @zxylo78610 ай бұрын

    Easily Seliph's. It's not even a debate. Atleast lore wise.

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark

    @DrewPicklesTheDark

    10 ай бұрын

    Lore-wise RD Ike's would be since they are literally blessed by Yune plus Lehran is effectively invincible, but Seliph would certainly be second.

  • @zxylo786

    @zxylo786

    10 ай бұрын

    @DrewPicklesTheDark Almost all FE lords are blessed by gods. That to me is a nonfactor. I don't see 95% of the RD playable cast even touching Ares. Seliph's army has a way higher kill count, and I think House Friege and Velthomer have way better armies than Begnion or Crimea.

  • @BeautifulGaston

    @BeautifulGaston

    10 ай бұрын

    As a huge Genealogy enjoyer I would say the closest fight lore wise would be the RD armies. The scale in RD is equal to FE4 and they'd have absolute beasts like Caneghis, Nailiah, Tibarn, Kurthnaga and Ike himself. All in all I think it would come down to the highest level of fighters in duels on the battlefield, facing off against Ares, Altena, Ced, Shannan and Seliph too. I think you could interpret the 12 crusader weapons as "blessed", which would help them against the absolute chads like Black Knight, Lehran and Dheginsea. Especially if we're considering Julia with Naga tome for the fight! I still think Genealogy Gen 2 comes out on top in the end but RD's cast would probably give them the most trouble in the whole series

  • @skeletonwar4445

    @skeletonwar4445

    6 ай бұрын

    Lorewise it's always gonna be Alear's or Byleth's because nobody else got time rewinds.

  • @xenocross6597
    @xenocross659710 ай бұрын

    Yeah that seems about right

  • @noahert1337
    @noahert1337Ай бұрын

    What if you combined Roy and Eliwood's armies tho?

  • @ray0064
    @ray006410 ай бұрын

    4:55 Blue Lions gang stay winning!!! Fortune to Faerghus 😤 Edit: Damn those Eagles, Gilbert sold us🤦‍♂️

  • @ChaolaoFueChi
    @ChaolaoFueChi10 ай бұрын

    Now, let's include the DLC.

  • @luthierisbestboy8177
    @luthierisbestboy817710 ай бұрын

    I just wish Valentia would stop getting the short end of the stick...

  • @helious1818
    @helious181810 ай бұрын

    Now you should rank them by relative strength to the enemies of their games

  • @TheBlaze22b
    @TheBlaze22b10 ай бұрын

    6:45 Why isnt Kris on Marth's list???

  • @DriftmadefromN
    @DriftmadefromN5 ай бұрын

    4:14 thanks lmao i am literally playing fe4 and have this in the background

  • @santino7470
    @santino747010 ай бұрын

    Damn, two of my favorite armies consistently being in bottom tier was something I didn’t want to see but kinda expected.

  • @Nobodydigausta
    @Nobodydigausta10 ай бұрын

    wouldn't have just made sense to use the FE4 Manga's version of the second generation as a Control Group as those versions of those characters are technically more canon in a way?

  • @porygonlover322
    @porygonlover32210 ай бұрын

    Leif being that high with limited deployment and base stats actually does kinda track, Thracia has a bunch of obscenely powerful prepromotes

  • @fuzclock8561
    @fuzclock856110 ай бұрын

    As someone who is preparing for a mod in another game, I can understand how awfull finding infos are. Along with interpreting them. Also, are you surprised the Sheperd won with Robin as a tactician ?

  • @PeruvianPotato
    @PeruvianPotato10 ай бұрын

    8:50 Ayo? What you be searching up?

  • @GoonCommander
    @GoonCommander10 ай бұрын

    I wanna see Modern FE fight Cavaliers that can gallop in place, Warriors that can jump 15 feet, and Forseti.

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