Which Era Of Aircraft Can Destroy A WWII Tank Battalion Most Efficiently? | DCS
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We simulate a WWII Panzer Tank Battalion and test to see which era of strike aircraft can destroy it most efficiently.
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0:00 Overview
3:40 WWII Era
24:08 Gen 2/3
40:06 Gen 4
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Kortana always comes up with some really cool ideas for scenarios.
38:35 best kill of the video. Strategically placed your jet to ambush the half tracks.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
Жыл бұрын
That's a medal well deserved. "While his plane was damaged after impact, the pilot, having suffered multiple injuries, still managed to put effective fire on the enemy vehicle, destroying it completely"
@marlboro9tibike
Жыл бұрын
Realism of this simulator is out of this world!!
@AppleSauceGamingChannel
Жыл бұрын
It's a much more effective 'very low altitude' platform than anyone would've thought
@Vakari
Жыл бұрын
Best DCS kill I've seen =)
- After smashing through a small gap between trees coming to a bouncing stop presumably one wing short and upside down. - Oh, I'm still awake, oh, I still have cannons Two Halftracks drive into view - Nails one, smacks the other. Cap, smooth as silk; "Cap, Shack." Had me absolutely rolling.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
lols
Cap shooting the vehicle from his wrecked plane was brilliant!
@dexlab7539
Жыл бұрын
Cap “doing a thing?” Haha
I seriously hope that DCS gets the Pacific theater up and running with Corsairs, and my favorite, the F6F Hellcat.
@f22araptor22
Жыл бұрын
Having the hellcat would be AMAZING
@wesleyjarboe9571
Жыл бұрын
The Hellcat is overrated and the Corsair is underrated.
Excellent flying from all of you. I have an idea: instead of creating a WWII era scenario and using more modern jets, what if you tried the reverse? Start with a relatively easy, modern mission; perhaps something like either an intercept or strike mission. It would be interesting to see you do it in modern jets specifically designed for the mission, and then try to repeat it with older and older planes. Just an idea. Love the content.
Watching this has made me learn so much I come from the streets where we have nothing and this has motivated me to start my basic training in 2 months thank you grim reaper you have kept me sane when I look around and have nothing
@davidjooste5788
Жыл бұрын
Good luck son and God bless
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Pleasure, good luck :)
That's what we like to see Cap, don't give up. I like the way you tested where your guns were aiming and then took out that half track, whilst grounded, upside down. In the words (sort of) of Dory- Keep on Fighting, Keep on Fighting.
How about the same scenario, but with helicopters?
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
Жыл бұрын
Cobras or Apaches would be a massacre
Really enjoy these era challenges!
I wonder if Zuni rocket pods or SNEB rocket pods would have been a better choice for the tier 2/3 Jets rather than iron bombs?
Added Kortana is always a pleasure.
The Jug is my favorite warbird. out now. Doing both A/G and A/A well is why I got the Jug over the Mustang.
The A-10 goes BRRRRRRT ..but I would still go for the sexy Tomcat 😎
So much fun to see ancient tanks get their due. Destruction, and mayhem. Lots of financial irresponsibility. AV Gas, bombs, and smart weapons, and missiles, and whatever. Parabellum. Let the games begin.
These are an enjoyable series! Keep at them and as always, more Kortana!
Video Idea: Most cost effective way to drain a carrier group of missiles? Drones vs decoy missiles vs wild weasel. Is the MALD-J in DCS?
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Cool
42:00 "how do we deconflict with blues" "we don't" Prime A10 banter lol
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
lol
Seeing the A-10 do exactly what it was made for is beautiful, turning tanks into Swiss cheese!
Factiod: A study after WW2 revealed that aircraft were notoriously poor at knocking out tanks. It seems that more than a few pilots reported hitting tanks but they did not, in fact. From their view at altitude and passing very quickly, a near hit was counted as killing a tank. This was not the case. Aircraft did, however, stop armored advances by destroying the supporting vehicles and troops, which effectively stranded the tanks, leaving the crews no choice but to either turn around or abandon them for want of fuel. This explains the many German tanks found unharmed but out of gas in France. The sight of allied aircraft near any German column was a cause of terror to German soldiers whether mounted or on foot because they were vulnerable to strafing cannon fire, which was devastating.
Well Cap, with all of these modules and forgetting stuff, you now know why in real life, you aren't allowed in the civillian space to fly more than 1 aircraft type at the time... So if you trained on a 737 and graduate to fly the 777, you can't go back to the 737 without a retraining and losing the ability to fly the 777.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Yup that makes a lot of sense.
Loved ❤️ the warbirds and the sound of a proper engine... POTM for me Fly taking the most kills and flying through a tree unscathed... ...honorable mention Cap turning his jet into a tank for the ground kill 🤣 Time to get sexy ⛳
The A4 had 20mm revolver cannons. Same guns as in the F-5. Basicly a scaled down copy of the German 30mm guns in WW2. Low weight, high rate of fire, low muzzle velocity and no ability to harm "hard" targets. There was an Israeli Version of the A-4, the A-4N, it had the 30mm DEFA guns of the Mirages.
You guys should make a video about Admiral Spereance's ships he sent to sink the Yomato with his surface ship at Okinawa instead of airplanes. The planes were launched without his orders it would have been the only time in history that the three Iowa class battleships Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Missouri would have a chance to engage the Yomato.
Cap!!! Those Warbird attacks on the half-tracks, that was textbook!!! Seriously, I bet if you pulled up and read the accounts of WWII accounts of air to ground pilots, that is the best tactic for hitting a half-track, six o'clock, guns guns guns. Save the heavy munitions for the bigger fish. Brilliant!!! Not gonna lie, Warbirds are what got me into aviation in the fist place as a kid, so anytime you post a video like this that has WWII scenarios included, it's like a cherry on top!!! Fantastic flying as always Grim Reapers!!!
@Maverick0451
Жыл бұрын
Side note, but very important. This type of mission in particular, which features the change in generations of aircraft overlayed in the same mission, it highlights the skill of the pilots!!! Learning ONE airframe effectively is a feat in and of itself. Learning MULTIPLE airframes over several decades of advances in the evolution of aerial combat, that is legendary!!! I reiterate, you guys are all rockstars!!!
Yet another great video!
Cap keeps saying that the P-47 was designed for ground attack. But the P-47 was actually designed for high altitude bomber escort. It was originally only good for short and medium-range escort, but as it was refined during the war, its range was extended and it was eventually able to escort bombers all the way to Germany. It wasn't until the Thunderbolts started attacking targets of opportunity on the ground on their way back from escorting bombers to Germany that its utility as a ground-attack aircraft was fully realized. Also, the A-4 had a pair of Colt Mark 12 20mm cannons, not 30mm.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Roger noted.
Thank you for the daily videos, Captain!
A Dornier Do 335 B-2 would have been perfect for this, the german WW2 equivalent of the A-10.
@connorjohnson4402
Жыл бұрын
Not really, maybe in like War Thunder, but in reality the Do 335 was built to be a high speed fighter-interceptor, which is kinda the opposite of what your looking for in a ground attack aircraft. Look at all the purpose built or the highly successful ground attack aircraft of WW2 (IL-2, Ju-87, Hs-129, A-20, B-25, P-47, etc) non of which are paragons of speed. In WW2 if your shooting at stuff on the ground your close enough for them to be shooting back at you so you need a lot of armor and the ability to carry as much boom as possible.
The great P47. The aircraft that did all the heavy lifting, and got no glamor.
The gasp at 19:50, pure LOL!
Good Morning and a Great video!! Good Day!
In my opinion for gen 2 and 3 rockets are your best option, not bombs.
I fucking love this channel 🤣
Interesting thing to note, near the start of the video when cap was talking about the how heavily armoured the jugs were. P-47s were actually almost entirely unarmoured, like most planes of the time the only armour it had was a couple of plates protecting the pilot, and that's it. It's durability was mainly due to the size and strength of the airframe and it's ability to absorb rather than resist damage. It's also not really a tank killer, great against infantry and soft or lightly armoured vehicles but WWII planes generally weren't so good a taking out tanks, despite the enormous number of kills pilots tended to claim.
Good stuff! 14:30 Cap misidentifying the Panzer 4 is the most USAAF thing he could say. 😆
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
lols
Love the maximum boom boom 💥 👌
Please do a version with Cold War or '90's era tanks.
P47 Thunderbolt will be a good/great bang for the buck anti armor air platform. Next cost effective angel of death will likely be the A-10
amazing cap keep it up !!
I really loved this peeps, Thank you.
i didnt know DCS stuff has the LABS system i so want to see that used . thats that funky auto pilot bomb drop system so the nuke doesn't explode before the pilot escapes , it does this weird slingshot trick
"Knobhead" is still the best British insult. Quite fond of "twat", too.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Bell End.
@rmp5s
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Yes! And "wanker"!! All absolute gems. Us Americans aren't that creative...we just call you a fucking asshole and move on. lol
The WW2 war birds part is for me the best description of a close air support that the allied army would had got in Europe frontline, from what I heard from veterans and archive footage
This video is awesome. Cap your were outstanding with the warbirds.
Could listen to Kortana talk for hours.
I'm really curious how Zunis with the gen2/3 would fare. In my experience in DCS with the F/A-18, Zunis will kill even T-90s if you hit directly, even though they are listed as HE. Not sure if Zunis simply are more powerful than they should be or what the deal is.
@dowgy177
Жыл бұрын
Based on the sheer number of T90 turrets we've seen launching themselves into orbit this past year, I'd believe you if you told me a pellet gun will penetrate that armor.
@totalnerd5674
Жыл бұрын
Does DCS differentiate between high explosive and high explosive anti- tank? That might be it.
@SneakyFishy
Жыл бұрын
@@totalnerd5674 It generally does differentiate as far as I can tell. Hydra 70 HE is very ineffective vs tanks, Hydra 70 HEAT is just kinda ineffective.
@totalnerd5674
Жыл бұрын
@@SneakyFishy Oh, OK
19:57 Well, where do you think the name 'joystick' came from? 😁
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
erm
I miss Kortana being around more and the good old days of carrier command and the U-boat one. Not that the dcs content isn't awesome and I don't watch basically every one of your videos. It was just cool to see you guys break out of the box 👍.
Cap, can we get Grim Reaper "Value-ington" merch? For I am....Value-ington.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
I can but you may get some strange looks...
Very cool idea.
In the event no one has said this. The A-4 had a 20 mil cannon on each side of the cockpit. I think it only had 200-300 rounds per gun.
@hunterhess8433
Жыл бұрын
Some Israeli variants were fitted with two 30mm DEFA cannons, but the A-4E in DCS does have the two 20mm cannons.
man, tiger tanks were scary ass looking tanks
One problem with the Tiger v. Sherman engagement is that it usually took 5 Shermans to take out a Tiger or Panther. We just had so many of them they couldn’t destroy all of them, and we had Aerial Supremacy from March, 1944 onward…
@MandolinMagi
Жыл бұрын
That's mostly nonsense. Sherman did acceptably well, but a platoon is 4-5 tanks and nobody 1v1s in tanks
@temerityxd8602
Жыл бұрын
@@MandolinMagi there's also the existence of variants like the Firefly and later model Shermans with the long 76mm guns which were perfectly capable of knocking out tanks like Tigers and Panthers, even from the front and absolutely would not need to drive round the back in order to get through their armour *cough* *cough* Fury
I love this stuff !
This would have been an awesome mission to combine with "The Chieftain" or some of the other Armor historians on KZread for a session talking about the effect of airpower on armor during the war.
50:57 That was "the bomb"!!! LOL
Kortana is a BA. You guys rock, you're great!
I was thinking that Hawker Hunter(hoping to see it in the future) could be good/fun here, but Aden cannons not effective vs armour? Perhaps rocket pods would do the trick?
Is there a reason you weren't using more Cluster munitions? *edit - posted this during the gen 2/3 section, I noted that there were technical issues with the A-10 sensor fused cluster weapons.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Yeh it's my fault, I forgot how to use the CBU-105.
@wesharriott9870
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Considering how many different airframes you jump between it's understandable!
38:38 lmfao😂🤣👍👍
Can you make a mission editor tutorial on the gau 8 on the A10? Or maybe overall on board cannons? You already made a tutorial on the gau 8 but only when ure the pilot... Thanks! BRRRRT
Does DCS have the A-6 Intruder? That would be the perfect Gen 2 aircraft on this mission.
@TraditionalAnglican
Жыл бұрын
6 B-52’s - Just bomb parallel to the Shermans!
@skyhorseprice6591
Жыл бұрын
I hope they get the A6 as a full fidelity aircraft. That would just be badass³
It was really fun to see how often someone called 'Tiger' when it was actaully a Panzer IV- just like is said to have happened in reality LOL And I wonder how the ground attacking would go if you couldn't zoom in to make it much easier to shoot... probably be very different...
@Ryan831ryan
Жыл бұрын
Yea but irl you can see much better than what you can see on the tiny screen zoomed out. It equalises.
@TraditionalAnglican
Жыл бұрын
Panzer VI (Tiger) & Panser III (5 cm) were often mistaken for each other from far away.
Gen 2/3 you need Skyraiders, that would probably be much more effective than the gen 2/3 jets.
I laughed my skinny jeans wearin, skinny guitar playin _ass_ off @ SupaCap gunnin' down a half-track _while inverted...ON THE GROUND!_ Wooo-HOOO HAHAHA HAAAA!🤣🤣
38:50 Super Cap, best Cap!
19:55 Im dead! LOL!!
hey Cap; how is RC doing? haven't heard from him in a whiiile; hope he is ok.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
He moved house and now days spends tending to his ranch.
It amazes me that I spend 50 min watching you guys play a video game lol
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Addictive...
Live these multi-gen comparisons...keeps the fsxt DCS isnt just about most modern tech !
These scenarios really need A-26 Invader for WWII era representation. That would be my pick for taking out enemy armor.
You should count in the cost of the train station or whatever it is they destroy if you don’t kill them all. After all there is a price to failure and letting them get to the target should come with a penalty for the humans.
Should add fuel and troop trucks. Without either tanks become useless....and both are easy targets for .50s
You should do this with helis, use 1960-1975 helis, and 1976+ helis.
Cold War aircraft - How about 4 B-52’s loaded with full loads of 500 lb. Bombs?!?
What I want to know is, how would a squadron of Apaches have handled that panzer attack?
It’s a great DAY!
We have to be realistic here, how could this not be amazing, incredible, and possibly the best ever, Kortana is here.
Seems like you should have had A7s and A1 Skyraiders for gen 2
How about the IL-2 Sturmovik ground attack aircraft?!? The Germans could tell you how lethal they were to tanks. And Ju-87G-1’s were equipped with 2 -37 mm autocannons attached to their landing legs - Hans-Ulrich Rudel destroyed 519 Soviet tanks with that aircraft. The Henshel HS-129 was pretty lethal to tanks too.
@temerityxd8602
Жыл бұрын
Rudel *claimed* to have destroyed that many tanks, the actual number was probably much lower and most of the things he destroyed were probably vehicles like trucks rather than tanks. And the Ju-87Gs cannons weren't attached to it's landing legs, they had a dedicated pylon.
Apparently even in 1944 the German Army transport on the ground was 75% HORSE DRAWN. Talk about easy target for 6 or 8 .50s
19:57 Hey, hey, hey, Cap don't play with your joystick, you'll make Jesus cry....or, or something
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
True
"shack uhhhhhhhhhhh..... halftrack"
Cap with the kill on a half track from a crashed and upside down plane.
Note how the WW2 planes treat you like a capable pilot and not shout in your face all the time.
Wish they did helos too
19:30. Wait for the stop. Actually snort laughed. Love you all P.S. thanks for the great b-day video!!
Why no skyraider in gen 2? They used them at that point and they were literally designed for this, it’s the vietnam a10 essentially, and I know they added it to dcs recently
For the warbirds, the best plane of this era for this mission would probably be the Soviet IL-2. Perhaps you can run a mission or 2 with said aircraft, if you haven't already?
Awesome vid again guys and girls. Shame there aren't any F111's. Better at tank killing than A10's in Iraq and tops the sexy points with the F14
I wonder if/how much the Stuka G2 would have helped the warbirds here with a pilot proficient in the aircraft and air to ground gunnery.
Which generation of aircraft can beat up a WW II Luftwaffe airfield defended by single weapon pits to Armored Flak Towers containing everything from MG's, and 20mm's, up to 88''s.
I really wish there was a P-61 or P-38 in here
A4 2 20mm cannons with almost no ammo. There's a reason the only air to air kill for the A4 in Vietnam was with rockets.
Sorry if this has already been answered, but… who is the guy that occasionally pops up after an unexpected ‘event’ that says “WOW!!!” followed by a sly ‘wink’? I can’t help but laugh every time I see him. 🤣 As always… LOVE the videos & mayhem. Well done, all. 🫡
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
That's Eddie Wally.
@OldStreetDoc
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Excellent! Thanks for that, guys. 👍🏼
Quick question. Does the cost of losses include the inherent cost of pilot acquisition and training? The materials cost is certainly a huge factor but the “soft cost” of training up a pilot to Ace level (since that is what is generally used) should also be included shouldn’t it?
There is a mini kortana?
Great work again. I have a idea, you might think it daft, but here goes. You guys and girls do alot of big scenarios which takes a hell a of alot work. So instend do some challenges involving all types of aircraft such as who can slalom the fastest whilst competing against ( 2 slalom courses ) etc think of it as Grim Reapers top gun ( top fun) excises. Testing both you and the aircraft. I will leave it to the Grim Reapers to improve on this idea. Who is the best, of the best and gets an award ( a decal of sorts, and named after the Grim Reapers who are no longer with us, as a way of remeberance ) different tests different awards. Its just an idea 👍
14:51 It's almost as if that's exactly what it was designed for lol