Are you hearing a difference too? Or is it all just in my head?

@Keplerf-vn2ld

8 ай бұрын

Its not in your head I did null testing with all these units and NAM @1k epochs is significantly closer to the source. Kind of funny since it's free.

Thanks for featuring our captures. This was very interesting to us to hear the differences in the hands of another player. All 3 are very solid platforms with small nuances in different scenarios favoring different use cases. All good choices. It would be good to point out that some of the differences account also for different type of captures compared here - e.g. DI in case of NAM and full captures in case of the other 2 platforms. Also the input gain on the QC seems to be quite a bit hotter. This shows the out-of-the-box sounds well. If one would compare all full captures or all DI + IR from an external loader, and the input gain levels would be leveled, the differences would be way more subtle.

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for making these captures! And yeah, I did my best to try to keep the input gains the same across the platforms. On the Quad Cortex, I had to turn the unit’s input gain completely down to get it in the ballpark of the other two. So there wasn’t any further adjustment I could make there haha. All I can say for me, it came out about how I thought it would. Each capture sounded like a slightly different tint of the same, and that tint was reflective of each amp modeler’s slight coloration.

NAM being free is still the most baffling piece of all of this

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

For real. Pretty cool software. Seems like he’d be sitting on a gold mine if he monetized it. But hey, maybe it’s not only about the money-

@DanteS-119

2 ай бұрын

@@JustinMuncyit’s not about money. It’s about democratizing music!

i don't know how ypu profiled your amps on neural amp modeler because when i profile them they sound excactly like the the source when they both sound the same through the same impulse response

ahhahah cute dog! I'll test this Neural Amp Modeler, thanks for share!

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Bailey is the best :) Thank you!!

Tonex and NAM are software and required you to use your audio interface, as compared to the QC which has guitar input circuitry. You will find if you roll off or shelf the highs before hitting Tonex and NAM you'll remove the digital brightness. These sorts of things color perceptions!

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

I actually used the same interface to get audio from the quad cortex for that specific reason- granted the interface hits after the effect as opposed to before with the other two.

It would be great to see you play on the new update of the QC with their plug in compatibility and does it make a difference on sound flexibility?

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Ooooo did that update come out yet? I saw an announcement but I don’t think it’s released yet. At any rate, I don’t have any NDSP plug-ins to test it with haha. I wish it would run 3rd party plug-ins, since I’m a HUGE fan of the Valhalla delays and reverbs!

Interesting ! Kemper was missing from the test. Now Amalgam Audio captures for kemper too.

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Haha yes it was. I don’t own a Kemper, otherwise it would’ve made the shootout.

I think it would be really cool if you made a video on amp modeler tips. I’ve had my kemper for years and I feel like i’ve got a pretty good tone going, but i’ve always struggled getting good drive sounds. I don’t know how to explain it but amp modelers never sound completely natural to me - especially drives. They are always very digital and fake sounding to my ear, especially in the kemper. I know you’re not a kemper guy, but a video explaining that could apply to most platforms. just a thought!

I got the blind test correct. I agree with the QC sounding more better to my ears. But NAM is free! LOL. Trying to build NAM into a pedal board friendly setup.

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Nice!!! And yes exactly, it’s not like the QC sounded earth shatteringly better than the free option. Which is still pretty crazy to me. I’ve heard talk of something called a Raspberry Pi? I guess it allows you to run the NAM software in a pedal format. I think if they were to release a true pedal dedicated to NAM, that would be really really cool-

@RichardLainegard

6 ай бұрын

@@JustinMuncy Come NAMM this January, Octave Technologies will release the Haricane, which is pretty much a tablet and an audio interface built together. (there are already more "stomp-oriented" amp loaders such as the MOD Audio - Dwarf.

This could be a legit comparison if there was a real amp to compare

What song is that at 3:43?

@JustinMuncy

29 күн бұрын

Just a riff I came up with for the demo.

Did you use the tone x pedal or just software

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

This is the software, which I’ve been assured is the exact same thing as what’s in the pedal~

@akaerik1

10 ай бұрын

@@JustinMuncy I just thought the pedal might have a different response to how it takes other pedals

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

@@akaerik1 it could! In theory it should effectively be the same, especially since you can control the input hitting the amp sim the same way you can on the pedal, but there could be a slight difference with the pedals audio converters.

@akaerik1

10 ай бұрын

@@JustinMuncy thank you for responding I've been debating picking it up to use with my GX 100 not sure how much of an upgrade it would be.

Boss gx-100

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

Yeah but that’s like 5 grand

Free wins..... tweaking it will match tones

@JustinMuncy

9 ай бұрын

I think if you’re using it at home or in a studio, that’s a pretty solid option-

TBH, I don't really care, but sure the QC sounds the best without a doubt and can easily be heard even with the KZread compression. IMO it is still not like a real amp but it is the closest we got for now. And thanks for the content man, everyone just stopped making content about the QC as soon as the hype died even though it is still an amazing unit.

@JustinMuncy

10 ай бұрын

I think there’s pros and cons to each unit. I think it comes down to preference at the end of the day. And yeah! I really love the quad cortex- I didn’t pay attention to hype or anything. That’s not what influenced my decision with it. Maybe that’s why I keep incorporating it into videos? Hahaha. Appreciate you!

@khay2210

10 ай бұрын

@@JustinMuncy sure, same for me here, I don’t give into hypes, but I find the QC very practical, it’s the only unit that has the ability to download presets and captures straight from the cloud with your phone, that for me is what sold me, and then the large screen and rotating knobs. I was never really an effect units person until the quad cortex. I used to have an Ampero, but it collected dust, not because it was bad, but it wasn’t just intuitive for me to use, and when the QC came out, I was like I’m never falling for this crap again, but then after watching a few videos and saw how practical it was, and it checked all my wishes, sure it made sense to buy it as this was my dream modern musician lifestyle.

Well, nothing of it sounds good. What is the problem? I liked the dog.

Pretty useless video without the original amp file ...