I use Duckstation, did absolutely no parameters changes and AC1/2/3 worked perfectly.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

I saw Duckstation as another possible emulator to use when looking up alternatives for playing Air Combat. I take it Duckstation is your go-to emulator?

@vaniellys

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf Yeah. A friend told me to use it for the old AC games, and it worked perfectly. Still haven't tried other games, but for now it's good

@Kayael

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf It's much more user-friendly than Retroarch when it comes to the interface. Performance-wise, they're pretty much equivalent.

@SuperStig92

Жыл бұрын

Yeah duckstation is the new normal, besides the beetle psx core for retroarch it's the best ps1 emulator on the market

@ColonelFatass3

Жыл бұрын

I used DuckStation and the music still isn't working for me

I really hope to see an Ace Combat 2 video from you soon. It was my introduction to the franchise and I honestly think it still holds up to this day

@CodytheHun123

Жыл бұрын

It was mine too. I used to sit on my dad’s lap and he spliced a controller so I could play too. He’d fly the planes and I’d shoot the missiles and guns. The controller still works today!

Ace Combat is very often underrated as just a "funny plane game where you do warcrimes", and while in some way it is that, there is a lot more to these games that people don't notice. That's why I like deep dives and analysis of the series, because there is a lot more to see if you actually bother to look deeper. Hopefully we'll see more of these videos.

I played this AC1 at launch, along with Ridge Racer Revolution. In 1995 this look was very impressive. Honestly I only noticed how simple the engine was when AC2 was released a year later. It was amazing how far AC has evolved in a year and how Namco's mere understanding of the Playstation has completely changed the experience. The first analog controls of the Playstation, still without vibration, were already recognized by AC2 and already allowed the use of analogues, but still without the question of the camera that would come with AC3 or the vibration that came only as a dual shock.

Seriously underrated channel

A crappy meme I made in 2016 has more views than this video. THIS IS NOT OKAY. This channel is criminally underrated.

Given the time frame, it’s entirely plausible that the Coup Forces might’ve been a ploy by the AWWNB faction from Zero to draw Merc Manpower away from Ustio in the aftermath of the Belkan War. Granted, it started “six months ago,” so either AWWNB was more widespread than previously shown, or Phoenix has one hell of a Speedrunning streak in this headcanon.

I played AC1 for the first time last week, after playing AC5,X,7,Z,3 and 4 first (in that order), and I actually loved it. The music was amazing and it was great to see how much in sequels the core stayed the same but everything was improved.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

The contrast between different points in Ace Combat's history is really neat to see. To take a future Ace Combat game and compare it to the first one to see how things have improved since then while retaining the core of what makes the series so fun to play like you mentioned is really cool.

About the gameplay. I've played a lot of AC2 which also didn't had analog sticks, so you will use the D-pad for everything, and use yaw with L2 & R2. Years Later, I had an epiphany, Ace Combat 7 sold flight sticks to simulate the realistic side of a game that is a hybrid of an Arcade and a Simulation flying game. "So" - I thought to myself, "Why won't I just use an arcade stick" So I used a fighting arcade stick, Qanba Obsidian Arcade Fighting Stick. But there is a problem the button layout on the the Joystick is weird, the R2 and L2 are on the opposite sides, the R2 is on the left and the L2 is on the Right. Furthermore i've played AC2 for the longest time on novice because I was a kid, which means you Roll and Yaw on the Left and right D-pad. So what I did, was to switch the L2 and R2 but I also wanted to push the Arcade stick left and right to Yaw. So my Left D-pad was yaw left and my right D-pad to Yaw Right, My L2 was Roll RIGHT and my R2 was to Roll LEFT. It all was possible to do only in emulation, but it worked so damn goooooood, that I've played like this with AC2 until I beat it. and then played AC3 like this, but it has Analog sticks, and the Arcade stick also can have different D-pads, with a push of a specific button you can change the stick itself from a D-pad to Right analog to Left analog. You just need to map it itself with the enulator. That's how i've played AC3 for the first time and beat it, it was like a new experience with AC2 and it was amazing with AC3. The same goes for AC4-0, i've played and finished all those games for the fist time in 2018, just before AC7, thanks to my dad i had an Xbox and so after finishing AC7 I've played AC6 and loved it. The only game that is left is X. So yeah, using a fight arcade stick on PS1 games like AC games works too damn well than I could've expected.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

That is so cool! I hadn't even thought of something like that before, a DIY flight stick with the fighting game stick! Awesome that you were able to solve the button layout problem through changing the inputs through emulation too. I can imagine why you say it was a new and amazing experience, that sounds neat!

@DrRESHES

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf yeah, it was a bit of a headache, but it's not that complex. after a while you know how to do it by heart. but AC5 is still a bit exciting, you'll need to change Sticks to answer yes or no while dodging missles but that's just part of the fun. If you suck don't blame the game, blame yourself for being bad. that my moto.

@vilomaxus2463

Жыл бұрын

AC2 supports dual analog

"the machine gun should be a low range weapon, not a no range weapon" If only ace combat 7 knew that advice

It's a rather charming game. I played it when I got my playstation 1 back in 96 and fell in love with it, but then Ace Combat 2 came out...and that became my fav AC of all time

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

I've heard lots of good things about AC2! Definitely looking forward to playing and making a video on that game when I get to it! I'm still glad that I went ahead and went through the small bit of trouble I came across when setting up Retroarch, because I agree that the music in this game is really good. That, and it's pretty darn cool that the very first game had a mission select system, definitely reminds me of Ace Combat X with the different choices you have there. Ahhh reading that puts a huge smile on my face! I'm glad the editing work I put into my videos is on display 😄

@diabdia

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf I really can't wait for you to do the introspective on Ace combat 2. That is truly the beginning of the world that we know as Ace combat and the beginning of the things that we love as fans. East combat 1 was the precursor but East combat 2 is the blueprint of what makes all of the other ones incredible and you'll see what I mean when you play it

I just like the way you talk and how you present everything. I also like your stance that even "the bad games" in a series play a role in how the rest of a videogame series grows and gets perceived. It made me think of how unfairly I treated AC AH and how I never cared to look at Air Combat at first.

Regarding those emulation issues: I *highly* recommend checking out Duckstation - Air Combat runs smooth as silk on it, not a single issue - generally that thing is just about the best emulator I've ever used, PSX or otherwise. It's super easy to set up, still receives semi-regular updates for the very few, minor issues some games still have on it and has such an impressively polished suite of options and UI that other emulators (like PCSX2 for example - also recommend that one, should you decide to give the PS2 games a shot on PC) have started to outright borrow from it. Kudos to you for even getting epsxe set up at all, by the way - that emulator is a notoriously finnicky piece of tech. Personally I could really only ever get it to work by running several other bits of software to keep it on its feet. I believe the devs stopped working on it quite a few years ago at this point.

@kordelas2514

Жыл бұрын

Not only this. But it also emulates NeGcon and Analog Joystick controllers which are utilized in the first two AC games for proper analog control. And can be bind to modern analog controllers for the best experience. I guess the most gamers experienced those games only on digital standard PS1 controller back in the day. It is the same with first Ridge Racer games on PS1.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

I may give Duckstation a try given all the positive things I've seen about it! Another person commented saying they use Duckstation and it's been running well. Would you recommend it over Retroarch too? I've definitely noticed how ePSXe is lacking compared to some other emulators. Even with something like Retroarch, that has a wide array of options and settings compared to ePSXe. Performance wise, the only things I've seen was the audio troubles from Air Combat. But I suppose I should count myself lucky there since it sounds like it's been more of a pain for you given the different softwares you've had to run for it? Unless there's a specific reason for me to use it again, I'll probably put ePSXe to the side for now.

@ColonelFatass3

Жыл бұрын

I use DuckStation and the music still isn't working for me

@HansAlRachid

Жыл бұрын

@@ColonelFatass3 Well that's a shame - never had issues myself. Maybe someone on one of the more active emulation discords could help you out? Should be fixable, I'd wager.

@ColonelFatass3

Жыл бұрын

@@HansAlRachid I figured it out. The file that I downloaded for the game had a messed up .bin file with only one track. Downloaded another file from another website and now it works just fine.

Commenting some years after its release, but that retrospective is flawless from beginning to end. Super well researched, great analysis , amazing editing and comprehensive (the fact you even talked about the cheats blew my fucking mind). I cannot stress enough how Air Combat is an important game for me and many other kids from the 90's who probably got a knack for military aviation and probaly a passion for life thanks to that game. IAll i know about aviation is thanks to that very game. It is an important piece of gaming History and i'm glad it got the fair spotlight it deserves in this video. Your shot for shot re-enactemnt of the games end credits for your end credits montage is awesome. You're a talented indivdual my friend, super happy to be a subscriber! Keep'em coming!

Awsome Video! keep up the good work

fantastic video! we honestly need more ace combat youtubers in the community, and you make damn good quality videos. I would love to see you tackle AC 2 in the future too! I recently revisited that game and was actually blown away with how amazing it is and how they got everything right so early in the franchise.

With the year the game takes place (1995), and the expansion of the setting, this gives an implication that the coup d’etat forces here are none other than A World With No Boundaries from Zero.

The thing I learned when playing this game as my first Ace Combat experience months ago and beating it was that... "JESUS MISSED"

Great video, my only complaint is that, it's not really that the PS1 hardware wasn't good enough, is that this game was made in the first days of the PS1, and so developers didn't really know how to make proper use of the hardware (the PS1 was notoriously hard to program for).

LOL, I'm so bummed that you didn't comment on how goofy the paint jobs are. Nice video though! Channel deserves more time in the limelight.

just wait till you get to acx. youll get reactive enemies. also, thanks for the retrospective, been hoping someone well do it

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

I've actually already played ACX through the PPSSPP emulator, so I already know about the reactive enemies (and I also know why so many people hate Time Limit. Seriously, screw that mission). To me at least, ACX is a very underrated game, it's really good! Of course! Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

@DpNemo

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf that makes two of us. to be fair you gotta jump trghou some loops to get time limit, it entirlly optional. i feel like its delliberate by the developper. "you wantaed it? well now you got it" kind of thing. a troll if you will

@DragonArcadia

7 күн бұрын

@@ThunderousFolfIf you read this and do a retrospective on ACX, I discovered something I thought was funny in it you might want to try. I can’t remember proper names in that game, so bear with me, but there was a mission at a port where you had to destroy ground forces without damaging the port facilities. If you damage too much, the mission fails and AWACS yells at you like usual. If you play the mission using the Fenrir and shoot its big explosion missile right into the center of everything, basically destroying the whole port in one shot, the music stops, AWACS says nothing, and you kind of just fly in silence for about 30 seconds before the “Mission Failed” text pops up. You can literally fail so bad, the game is speechless.

A nice game, and awesome review. I just finished it for the first time these days.

You mentioned that there was only two controllers designed for the ps1. The ‘Dual Analog’ controller exists. It’s pretty obscure but it does in fact exist

It's funny that the audio playback is a problem when the audio tracks themselves are red book. It is an example of a game where you can put it in a CD player and play all of the music and voice lines as music tracks.

I think another thing you missed is that d pad input is digital, meaning that is ether a full input or no input, making presise aim harder

5:39 can we honor the pilot that just take the missiles shot?

also why would you need to look at the radar to see if the target is destroyed if you can look at the square that targets the enemy, and when it disappears that means the target is already dead.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

I picked up on that being the strategy during my first playthrough of the game. I'm just so used to seeing the hit vs destroy distinction that it threw me off for a bit until I picked up on the looking at the radar tactic lol.

I recently went from playing Air Combat as my last AC title to AC6. The difference between a PS1 controller and an XBOX 360 controller has been a ride!

how does this video have 1000 VIEWS HOW IS IT SO LOW

Fun odd fact, the Nintendo DS refers to directions in 0-512 numbers, not 0-360.

Funny that, the android version of epsxe worked for me just fine

It wasn't much the hardware limitations but the devs not being experienced with it at the time

God damn! Are we going this way ? are we gonna look into the other AC games that no one know ? Even me. I started with AC2 myself.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

Yep, going backwards this time to where it all began! To me at least, it makes sense that if I'm going to continue on with the retrospectives, I should do the rest of them in order. I do plan on covering some of the lesser known titles too like Joint Assault (though whether that game is considered lesser known is subjective), but more obscure games like Ace Combat Advance and Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Trigger Finger might only get mentions depending on if I'm able to find ways to play them.

@DrRESHES

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf Wow, good luck with those, I've played Joint Assault before (on the Vita) I started playing all the mainline games. and I had a hard time with it. And also with Assault Horizon on 3DS was pretty rough for me. I still have those games but I won't play them.

I soo disagree with saying that this game has aged poorly. The game is still beautiful *if* you set the emulator up to make it beautiful. Last time I replayed this was 2021, before I played AC3 for the first time ( _got playthroughs of both of course_ ). Been considering to replay it again using Duckstation. 22:55 - I don't think it's the lack of analogue sticks that's bothering you, but rather not taking into consideration the mobility stat which is directly responsible for how your plane will behave. The F-22 for example is just objectively superior in almost every way, the F-15 has the highest stat, and the MIG-31 is like trying to steer an ox riding a unicycle.

Pipeline Destruction here is simultaneously more and less annoying here than in AC7.

My first ps1 game😢

holy shit I played that game. A long time ago

What's your favorite OST in AC1 ?

@sickosl1me

Жыл бұрын

For me its either: Like a seagull or the hanger theme

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

If I had to pick one, I'd go with The Front Line. Though the whole list of Air Combat's OST is really good too!

@cyruschow7834

Жыл бұрын

Night and day, know it by the remix version

@briganhopkirk508

Жыл бұрын

Hot air for sure

Jesus, missed!

This is a very 90s game

Appreciate the credit, though it's spelt arwei0, using the letter i not 1 in the spelling.

the more i see mission descriptions here the more i think ace combat x is just a remake of air combat but with all the mechanics it was supposed to have. you do have enemy forces that will recapture teritorry if not dealth with and radar jaming that, if destroid will change how other missions are played

Quick question because I'm genuinely curious: What exactly is considered a bad cheat in a video game? Examples would be helpful. Edit: I can't believe that it took me this long to realize you were talking about game breaking microtransactions.

I think that the part about the controls was a bit to long, but the rest of the video was great.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you enjoyed! 😄 Too long in the sense that I could have cut or otherwise shortened a part of that segment? Looking back on it, maybe I could have just said "Normally in any other Ace Combat game..." then did a short explanation of the analog stick differences rather than diving into the AC7 vs Air Combat comparison towards the second half of that segment.

@vaniellys

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderousFolf You went a bit too far in the explanation, and could have shorten it. I don't mind videos that are more than minutes long, detailed reviews are great, but this is the kind of moment where you risk loosing people.

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

@@vaniellys I see what you mean. Risk loosing people through them getting bored of the long explanation. Like I said, looking back on it, I agree. I probably could have shortened the explanation in some way. I'll keep this in mind if I find myself doing another explanation segment. Long enough to explain, but short enough to where it doesn't get overly long and boring.

16:30 Good thing Ace Combat x did this better

Do a video on airforce delta strike or any game in the series or else i will frame you for telling pepole lies about hoffnung

Now what about the rip off ace combat tom clancy hawks my bud ?

@ThunderousFolf

Жыл бұрын

The first two videos I have posted on my channel are reviews of HAWX and HAWX 2, funnily enough. Be advised if you do decide to watch those videos though, given that those are the first two videos I have up (both of those videos being from 2 years ago now), the quality of those videos aren't up to the current standards I have today 😛

@ZKP314

Жыл бұрын

First HAWX is ok. We don’t talk about the Sequel.