France's 5 subs play for: Inter Milan x 2, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Bayern Munich. Ireland's best player tonight is a Luton reserve. That's 4 teams that could all easily go very far in the CL, while Luton will probably get relegated. Big gulf.

Get used to never qualifying for anything for the next decade at least. Ireland had rode off the back of the Premier League for years and now that the premier league clubs have big money Irish players just don't break into the premier league clubs as much anymore. James Mc Clean is League 2 ffs. We need to fix our domestic league now and bring it up to modern standard if we don't ever wanna head back to the way things were before the Charlton era.

@derekkelly9286

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree I've been saying that for years we always just hope were useless it be decades before were any good if we start developing our own domestic game Ireland are hopeless no ambition in this country to ever better ourselves

@johnlongworth5069

9 ай бұрын

That's ridiculous Have you not being watching our underage teams of the last few years Their very talented We will be back qualifying for tournaments in 3 to 4 years time

Bring back Dunphy, Brady and Giles

@Anthony-jt9ts

9 ай бұрын

You get them on the stand every week on a Monday it’s great

@pcon1473

9 ай бұрын

💯 percent especially Dunphy I loved him

@madforit2

9 ай бұрын

Just get rid of Sadlier

@nigefal

9 ай бұрын

I am not sure they have the legs anymore....

Darragh in cuckoo land… Shay Given is a breath of fresh air on the panel

@danduggan3335

9 ай бұрын

His job is to give the counter argument. Not to give his opinion or support an analyst

@calgofitness4299

7 ай бұрын

@@danduggan3335yeah but still like come on Ireland had no chance

Richie dead right to call him out for making excuses, no one thought we’d get top 2, but to be out played by Greece says it all

@NC-ck5oj

9 ай бұрын

That was the killer. I like Stephen, he's a good guy but he should have been sacked after that game. It was probably the most depressing performance ever from Ireland considering the stakes and expectation before the game. Its simply over now

What kind of excuses do we need now? Blaming Covid? That was global!

Darragh doesn't half like making excuses or anything🤦

@tomgreene1843

9 ай бұрын

Well he must do the RTE pc bit you see!

@PS-sw7yq

9 ай бұрын

Covid and empty stadiums - the exact same conditions for everyone

@ronantilly6363

9 ай бұрын

​@@PS-sw7yq The stadiums are best off being empty like kenny's brain

@calgofitness4299

7 ай бұрын

Honestly he talks so much nonsense 😂

@TheLastAngryMan01

Ай бұрын

It’s his job to play devil’s advocate, same as Billo back in the day.

RTE brutal panels since dunphy giles brady left. Hamman ok rest very bad

These guys are all making valid points but the issue they are all missing is that Croatia has a similiar sized population but not only are they are able to qualify consistently for major international tournaments but they are able to go deep into these tournaments finals and semi-finals etc so why can't Ireland??

@davidpryle3935

9 ай бұрын

Croatia is a real football country. Football is a minority sport in Ireland. If it wasn’t for the great dedicated officials and fans of the LOI clubs, who against all the odds, have kept professional football alive in Ireland, there wouldn’t be a league at all.

@warrensteamtalk

8 ай бұрын

@@davidpryle3935 for me the issue it doesn't have top be like that. Croatia a small country with a population similar in size to Ireland, and Scotland have shown what can be done when grass roots football is organised properly, and coaching is done properly, it saddens me when I think of the commitment, and dedication that all those amazing volunteers(like those at St Kevins for example) are showing in helping football in Ireland without the appropriate tools, and support. Stephen Kenny for me isn't the main problem but he is a symptom of a bigger problem i.e. The FAI. Look at what the IRFU have managed to achieve, and Rugby Union is seen as a foreign sport in Ireland is it not.

@davidpryle3935

8 ай бұрын

@@warrensteamtalk You’ve completely missed my point. Unlike rugby, football is a truly global game. For a small country to be a power in football, football must be overwhelmingly the dominant field sport in that country. That is clearly not the case in Ireland. That of course is the choice of the Irish people, and a choice they are fully entitled to make. But on the other hand, they then cannot turn around and expect a top class international football team to magically appear from nowhere. The FAI are far from perfect, but blaming them for the choices the Irish people make, amounts to nothing more than scapegoating.

Get an Englishman from the Premier League to manage Ireland. The only managers to take Ireland to a World Cup were Jack Charlton and Mick McCarthy!

Croatia was mentioned, but Croatia is miles ahead. The players are more naturally gifted and genetically blessed. In addition they have professional clubs playing in front of large crowds like Dinamo and Hajduk. I say this as an Irishman living in Croatia, we are no where close in terms of natural tallent.

@davidpryle3935

9 ай бұрын

The Irish seem happier playing and supporting GAA. It’s got the added “bonus” that there is no international competition. No danger of being shown up by those nasty foreigners.

@johnnyk6460

9 ай бұрын

​@davidpryle3935 Hurling, Gaelic football and rugby are all just better sports to play. Soccer is a sh**e sport played mostly at local levels (not LOI or the pro level) by lads who can't make their local GAA or rugby teams. It's compounded by the fact that it's playing population is mostly lower class scum or knackers.

@glasgowgrad6277

9 ай бұрын

Oh for goodness sake. Genetically blessed - how? Naturally gifted - how? Because they spend their formative years training, training and training with the ball. 10,000 hours is completed by the time they're 16.

Comparing us to other nations of similarly sized populations is unrealistic of our true talent pool of football players considering both Gaelic sports and Rugby cannibalise the potential pool of footballers

Darrah said 2 of those 5 competitive wins were against France. Were they? Am I missing something? I had a look and could only find: Gibraltar (twice - if you could call them competitive games); Armenia and Scotland (in NL games that aren't always taken seriously); and Azerbaijan.

@87JohnJames

10 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he meant 2 of the 25 competitive games they played were against France.

@jackmurphy6864

9 ай бұрын

@@87JohnJames Yes, maybe so. Still a strange thing to say, though. It sounds like an excuse more than anything.

@DuringEarlyMornings

9 ай бұрын

He did mean 2 of the 25 games, but you're right it made no sense in any case. 2 of them were against France, but that still leaves 23 games, many of which were against teams we should be capable of beating.

@jackmurphy6864

9 ай бұрын

@@DuringEarlyMornings Yes, it makes little sense. He makes it sound like they play the likes of France all the time. I'm not sure, but I think Ireland have beaten only 1 "big" team (Holland '02) in a competitive game in the last 25 years. I know there was Germany and Italy, but they'd already qualified. Pretty shocking record. And now they can barely beat the lowly sides either.

@glasgowgrad6277

9 ай бұрын

As a Scotsman, we took/take the Nations League really seriously. It helped us get to the Euros in 2020/21 and has now proven beneficial in terms of getting the team confident. We're sitting with 15 points in 5 games, ready to qualify for Germany. Start winning against the teams below, around and slightly above you and you'll see what difference it makes.

Nowhere the team is going nowhere. They need to the Irish rugby union about how much how they punched above their weight.

@davidpryle3935

9 ай бұрын

There’s no comparison between rugby and the truly global game of football.

@nigefal

9 ай бұрын

@@davidpryle3935 Uneducated gombeens ran soccer which is the major difference, ruined the chance to maximise popularity of Drums v Bohs etc. Then it was downhill after that.

@davidpryle3935

9 ай бұрын

@@nigefal There’s more than a grain of truth to what you say. However, its a bit more nuanced than that. The fact that most Irish people were more interested in supporting other leagues, and other sports, must also be taken into account. Also great credit must be given to the officials and supporters of clubs like Sligo rovers, who against all the odds, have managed to sustain a professional football club in the north west, for nearly a hundred years.

Ireland used to rely on the English-born players who were qualified for Ireland through the granny-rule (like Rice and Grealish) to bring up the standard of the team. Those kind of players used to be not good enough to play for England so they opted for Ireland as a 2nd choice. Andy Townsend and Matt Holland were prime examples of those type of players. That avenue is now largely closed off with England hoovering up all available quality players. We also can't send players over to England now until 18yo due to Brexit. Chickens are coming home to roost for the FAI and all those idiots running off to England to support EPL teams instead of supporting and hence funding their local LOI soccer teams and their academies. Ireland's soccer team is srewed for generations to come!!!!

There's something very english about RTE

@breenirwin2356

10 ай бұрын

West brits

@kbonh22

9 ай бұрын

That's Dublin for you

@tomgreene1843

9 ай бұрын

You can add in a few more of the media ...but there is a deeper malaise.

I'd take not qualifying and trying to play decent football than not qualifying playing huff football, irish pundits and fans are deluded the gulf we are trying to overcome from decades of mismanagement by the fai is fucking massive! It will not be fixed quick, kenny has brought players through at a young age that no previous manager would and that will benefit us. Kenny might not be the man to guide us to qualifying for tournaments but he deserves alot of respect for what hes done. Fans engage with the Ireland team again. Listening to Sadler is embarrassing a 2 bit lower league player that has no right talking about football at an international level, and didi that just needs a pay check.

Who would the FAI replace him with? Huff ball is dead and gone, so who to replace him and who would want to take it is a head scratcher? I would have said previously Carsley but I'd doubt it now. I do think he would make a very good director at the FAI someone who cares as much as him over the years making sure players were looked after through the age groups and pathways to senior team and wed have the likes of Rice, Grealish playing for Ireland now. Prime example is Evan Ferguson, England must be kicking themselves there.

@glasgowgrad6277

9 ай бұрын

That is the problem, though. You shouldn't be looking to pinch Rice or Grealish. You should be looking to create your own.

Poor Didi - he must need the cash.

How much longer 🙄

I think Given just regurgitates the obvious points that are already out there (similar to ray houghton). No one brings anything of an interesting angle to table. Rte panel has turned into bbc.

Any find the advert during the add break before the final say of the panel weird.Richie a member of the panel doing an LGBT sex program straight after the match?

@breenirwin2356

10 ай бұрын

Woke leftist Rte no wonder the country is finished

@tomgreene1843

9 ай бұрын

Just what one might expect from RTE!

@breenirwin2356

9 ай бұрын

@@tomgreene1843 Ant Irish woke propaganda machine intent on destroying Ireland and its people

look listen stop papering cracks, the team is not good enough, the most were gonna get in the remaining 4 games is at least 4 points you can forget about qualifying because the team isn't good enough and the manager isn't good enough and for me the whole team from top to bottom needs resetting. I don't really know who we could bring in out of all the possible outcomes but if theres a decent option out there then get rid of Kenny and bring him in. The manager isn't totally at fault because the players do have to take plenty of responsability but he's had more than enough time with the group and we've hardly improved from the time he took over to now. He needs to go once the qualifiers are done

Excuses is all I'm hearing, it's just not good enough

Other countries like croatia dont have to compete with rugby, gaelic and hurling that take a lot of the top talent. These boys are deluded, the players arent there and dont say we are just as good as scotland.. they have players playing for liverpool villa utd etc

@TheLastAngryMan01

Ай бұрын

Croatia has produced a lot of NBA stars and win world titles in sports like water polo.

Why should Ireland beat Greece? The arrogance.

How much longer are we not going to qualify for a major international tournament euro 2016 last euros 2002 world cup it's too long a wait that's the long and short of it I feel sorry that the team is like this. The fai have questions to answer Kenny making the massive step from managing Dundalk fc in league of Ireland to the highest paid job in Irish football is too big a job for Stephen Kenny he has got plenty of chances now let him go grassroots football has got to improve and the fai at the top need to wake up and improve the standard of football in Ireland. It needs to be properly funded also. If you compare Irish football to rugby it's a complete shambles and it needs to change or else we just won't qualify for any major tournaments anymore. 🇮🇪

@gerardodwyer5908

10 ай бұрын

Ireland will never win anything with a bunch of second raters playing in the second and third layers of soccer in England. Look at the players France has, that the Dutch have. Top players from Europe's leading clubs. No comparison.

@abelnorbert3217

9 ай бұрын

Every teams have their own weaknesses & strengths, Ireland's weakness is due to lack of technically gifted players, especially nowadays, it's strength is his fighting spirit & heart, so i think ireland should play direct and counter attacking football, for example, just like the way championship teams play against premier league giants, sometimes they beat these big clubs in fa cup or carabao cup. So I think ireland should use his strength to improve. Play with heart & passion. Remember Barcelona beat Liverpool 3-0, and in 2nd leg liverpool win 4-0, how ? Because Liverpool had more passion & spirit than Barcelona on that day even if technically Liverpool was inferior to Barca. Ireland will need a man with passion to lead the team, that's the only way to help the players to aim higher mentally & feel as if they should fight for something. Need to get that passion back.

@davidpryle3935

9 ай бұрын

@@abelnorbert3217Someone like, oh! I don’t know …… Martin O’Neill, perhaps. No, it can’t be someone like that.

The press wanted O'Neill out their man is at the helm and he's failed 3 times own it, fans remember tournaments not 2 nil loss away to France

@wonjubhoy

9 ай бұрын

O'Neill got to the last 16 of the euros and a world cup play off place. That is far better than Kenny's record.

Bring on richies sex education

@dazza9859

10 ай бұрын

😂

@fmoy8470

9 ай бұрын

Richie Saddle her

Ireland just don't have good players

U need andy farrell

@ciaranbrk

9 ай бұрын

They need to pick league of Ireland players train them to pro standard start an academy like Leinster did as a Segway for irish rugby team which is the envy of the world we canmdomit we have been to world cup quarter finals in football we just need to build better and protect our players from being poched by other leagues.

Kenny will look like a complete bellend when finally either walks or is pushed. All that spoofing for 3 years and he'll ultimately walk away looking like a wally..

Who cares, minor sport.

RTE have the same staff locked in on till death do us do part contracts. no chance for any new pundits to get in. All the best irish stars literally just go to England. From football to radio and tv 🫥

@gerardodwyer5908

10 ай бұрын

Bla bla bla. Cry me a river bubba.