Wow, that start is quirked up and busting it down (Civilization style), that's goated with the sauce!

@rubisco7085

2 жыл бұрын

Based comment

@nope2603

2 жыл бұрын

Baste

@peterk7428

2 жыл бұрын

hmmm... I know some of these words...

@theorixlux2605

2 жыл бұрын

Paste

@sleepysteve111

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 32 and I feel like a dinosaur.

Early in the video: “4-6 cities is considered a tall build.” Later on: “Less than 10 cities is a tall build.” Next video: “25 cities or less is good enough for a tall build.”

@calebquinn256

Жыл бұрын

*conquers the world, owns 60 cities* Ok its really 75 cities or less is tall

@slavj

Жыл бұрын

It's all about how you view it. Tall vs Wide. If you tilt your head... wide is now tall.

Potato: I wanna play tall Civ 6: Got ya, here's the closest thing to a predator a civ can be and an empty continent right beside you

You know it’s a great start when you’re forced to yeet bonus resources for districts.

@erhanalemdar4796

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@devantehoschette9021

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I yeet them whether I have to or not

@MrTrellheim

2 жыл бұрын

I never play Legendary resources so I don't have to do that.

I feel like "tall" is less [under x amount of cities] and more about large, strong cities with mega-efficient land management. So if/when you're handed a stretch of extremely enticing land that would inevitably boost your city count; a higher number of cities to monopolise on those opportunities is still a definitively "tall build" imho.

@JohnSmith-rr3jt

Жыл бұрын

@View BotYou will always have more cities than governors until the mid to late game, depending on how much culture you go or if you rush Casa. Its impossible not to because you can build settlers but you can't build governors lol... That has nothing to do with being tall or wide.

@nono-lz9qr

11 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-rr3jt he means total governors.

@XpVersusVista

6 ай бұрын

@@nono-lz9qr still dumb. Tall doesn't means "based on quality" while wide means "based on quantity". Wide means trying to spam cities out no matter if you have good spots to place. Your cities don't need go go over 10 pops because your cities overlap so much they can make use of all decent tiles with such small population because cities share space due to adjacency. Tall on the other hand prioritizes improving the city before spamming out another settler unless you see a very good potential city that will grow to 15+ pop easily. And tall also means trying to get a single city make use of most of its entire 3-range tile radius itself instead of overlapping (so 5-7 distance instead of 4 between cities).

18:51 i appreciated his use of mouse movement to make that point. "You lose a population, but you immediately get it back" while he moves the cursor left to right in an arc motion. 👌

Ah yes the ol days of “settle 7 tiles apart so all cities can work max tiles“ from Civ5. Because of districts obv no longer as viable but when trying tall I tend to try space them by 5-6 instead of the usual 4-space cram from wide games

@alyssinwilliams4570

2 жыл бұрын

I like to aim for 5/6 as well

@crai-crai

2 жыл бұрын

I've been playing 4-space cram because I've been told that's best for wide games, but lately I've been struggling to find all the tiles I need between cities to get those farm triangles, district groups, national parks and preserves. Those last 2 really need lots of extra space. Not in every city, but somewhere.

@Jack_Rakan

2 жыл бұрын

@@crai-crai honestly, even as an almost exclusively wide player, I very rarely do the 4 distance cram. I pretty much only do it if I can get 2 super high adjacency Industrial zones, or if there's 2 potential very high adjacency Campuses due to fissures. Otherwise I basically play the game as if it's a tall game, aka get every city as big as possible, while also getting a ton of cities. Some of them will be crap, but that's because I settled them to get access to luxuries/strategics

@TheKansleren

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, its strange, I almost never use 4 tile spacing - but I've yet to see a popular streamer NOT use 4 tile spacing. Watching it always irks me. Feels so inefficient.

@rolandxb3581

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheKanslerenEspecially when there is limited space, closer cities means more cities means more districts means more yields. And close cities also help you get better adjacencies and less tile buying to get those districts in the best spots. It does limit the late game productive potential of cities, but the districts and midgame boosts are more valuable most of the time. In late game, you are already a snowball anyway.

Concerning that future English city... Unless they settle exactly where you want(and even then, if they fuck up districts), you could consider this: You're Irish, just live out your dreams and raze that English City. You have the free Generals for some Military Operations vs a lone city far from support.

7:30 "Getting a Great General is likely not possible" he says, forgetting that he is playing Gran Columbia. (I actually don't know if Commandante Generals count for city state quests. I assume so?) Edit: turns out I was wrong and they don't count as a great general for city state quests. Too bad so sad. Also I consider 8 cities or less to be tall (ideal for luxuries). 4 is possible in some situations, but I usually go for 8. Well, actually my personal definition of tall is "would all these cities get the Maya bonus if you are playing Maya" but that's esoteric. Really wide v tall is a bad dichotomy in Civ 6. A better one is dense vs spaced - there's some overlap since the latter means fewer bigger cities (they don't _have_ to be bigger but if they aren't you're wasting all those tiles) but it's a more important distinction than number of cities per say.

@joelpierce1453

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah honestly 8 cities still feels like a tall build, but I like to play big maps where I settle dozens of cities, so maybe my perspective is just a little bit skewed.

@thesterwood6721

2 жыл бұрын

You get them at the change of every era tho, and the city state would have a new quest every era, so no, it wouldn’t count

@joelpierce1453

2 жыл бұрын

@@thesterwood6721 Correct, they definitely don't count because you can stack the bonuses.

@manuelsalazar5257

2 жыл бұрын

Why does everyone use Columbia instead of Colombia, i don't get it. It's the name of the country, it's not that hard

@joelpierce1453

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelsalazar5257 Relax, it's spelled both ways across dozens of countries. It's an easy mistake.

I just love how you were going to play tall but there's a whole empty continent for you to settle, whereas my typical game is more like: "oh so I just spawned within 10 tiles of three different AI" and it is tall game by default most of the time ! Also I think of tall builds based on density of cities and not number, for me tall means a looooot of AoE buildings and amenities so you have few, but very strong cities. That being said, when you reach more than 8 cities, it is more of an "efficient" build than a real tall one I feel... Anyways I really enjoy hearing you explain your advanced tips like pre-placing districts and delay researching horses, I feel it's what makes a difference to our games as well and I love it !

@wanyaisneed3972

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this. Every time I want to be like early war I'm super isolated and my I want chill culture games it's like turn 5 and I meet meet america

@denisem.1042

2 жыл бұрын

I feel your pain.

@Leyrann

2 жыл бұрын

Map type is actually a VERY major factor in this regard. On a map like lakes you will often have two, three times as much space as you do on continents or continents and islands. Even Seven Seas, which still allows for significant naval action, already has a lot more room.

@denisem.1042

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leyrann I usually play on large Pangaea map. I don't often play specialty maps like lakes or seven seas because it messes with some of the mods I like using. It's strange that most streams I watch, they are playing on a Pangaea map and have plenty of room while I very seldom do. I have even tried removing a couple of the default civs and still end up crowded. What's even worse, is that I more often than not, spawn next to someone like the Zulu, Alexander, Montezuma or Kristina, who almost always declare early war on me. It's like the game wants to force me into a military focused game, whether I want to or not.

Gran Colombia is, low-key, one of the best generalist civs. I've actually won every victory type with him *except* domination. +1 movement is just that strong, never mind Haciendas being production powerhouses, and the generals allowing you to focus less on investing in military and also having nice retirement effects.

@MrTrellheim

2 жыл бұрын

And that was AFTER they were nerfed. Day 1 Gran Colombia was absolutely insane. The +1 movement bonus alone it's crazy good.

@RuiRuichi

2 жыл бұрын

Gran colombia got me my fastest Domination kills. I tested it on a small pangaea and I destroyed everyone before bombards.

@llamingo696

2 жыл бұрын

Historical accuracy

@benabaxter

2 жыл бұрын

Cree are another.

Hey Potato, there's a mod called Anti-monopoly that gets rid of the insane tourism modifiers but keeps the rest of the Monopoly/Corporation mode mechanics. Highly recommend that + the mod that fixes the bug with AI not improving luxuries when using that mode.

Always interesting to see which game modes different people play. Secret Societies has basically become my vanilla/default since its release.

@wherami

2 жыл бұрын

Same with barbs and monopoly

@JacksonOwex

2 жыл бұрын

@@wherami I don't play with monopolies too often!

@nehemiasgroppi4397

2 жыл бұрын

I always play with monopolies but not for the influence, just the yieldssss

@edwardcollins8102

2 жыл бұрын

I love barbs, but it's a bit buggy. If you start with the max number of city-states, barb camps don't become city states, but if you don't, then it takes forever for them to become the city states you could meet. My default are Secret Societies, Monopolies, and Heroes (Hercules is just the most OP hero. Period. And there are a lot of OP heroes, and still Herc manages to OP the OP...)

@andrewklang809

2 жыл бұрын

I just wish the AI didn't go for Voidsingers 2/3rd of the time. I like that Secret Societies gives the AI more reasons to hate each other, but if you're starting off next to a dangerous civ, you sometimes have to go Voidsingers just for safety, and that pushes you into a particular style of play. Usually I only go for Owls or Hermetics if I feel safe, and I wish that didn't always have to be the rationale.

Won my first diety game (Germany going for space but cheesed a diplo) thanks to your videos. Cheers potato

@jasonreed7522

2 жыл бұрын

Diplo is definitely the victory type you accidentally get when you notice you are like 4 points off and its just faster to go diplo over whatever you were going for. Also congrats on winning Deity for the first time, i still haven't done that but i just implicitly dislike the idea of cheating AI so i haven't pushed myself beyond Emperor yet.

@ValunarTonix

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it's possible to get a "free" deity "win" (for the achievement and nothing else) by doing Russia on a 1 turn clock game. Now I just need to legitimately learn the game lol

I'm happy to see you play a tall build, mainly because I always marvel at how often I watch streams where the streamer has tons of room to expand, whereas I seem to always end up sandwiched between two or more other empires and I'm often lucky to be able to squeeze in 6 cities. I often have to do an early war rush just so I have room to grow.

@RomGomLP

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel like I end up on a small patch of land with 3 citystates and a nother civ way too often, leaving me room for barely 5 cities in an ideal scenario

I haven't watched one of your videos in a while and I've noticed you've changed your communication style; I like it. You're doing a much better job of articulating your thought process and choices than maybe 3 years ago. Nice work!

The Monopolies++ mods have a setting to turn off the monopoly bonuses including tourism. If you don't like that feature I recommend getting the pack.

If you are looking for a silly game idea: Scythia, use the Amani trick to get the Twins, play with zombies and push towards spies to incite zombie outbreaks. Use the twins to kill and reanimate some zombies early, and see how strong you can get your zombies.

@justsomeguy5470

2 жыл бұрын

You could call it the Necromancer Build!

@michaelsandy2869

2 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy5470 A necromancer zombie player wouldn't be as interested in a quick contest so much as they would be in a war that generates and kills a lot of units that rise as zombies and die to boost their zombie power. Oh yeah, needless to say, you want Vampires with that too. Have some ranged that weakens units for the zombies to munch on.

So during the Aztec Overexplained someone said you should play tall and I took that to mean "One City Challenge" kind of thing, I was wrong! Secondly, as you said during the video, if you are given a wide play you'd be stupid not to take it! Play the game however YOU want that way you are having fun. The people who complain or ask for things all the time are here one way or the other but if you start getting burnt out and don't want to play no one will be here!

@dominickfekete3458

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree but at the beginning he said he wanted to show how to play tall. He just got unlucky with such a start.

44:53 “She’s going for that tea. I know it!”

@Cntrysky

Жыл бұрын

Oh, those British...

potato: you really want 2 scouts Me: who starts every game building 5 warriors and a slinger

Kinda late but recently discovered a new thing, when you plugged in the settler card despite working a builder, you can actually just choose not to research a civic by shift entering, this allows card changes every turn so urban planning could have stayed for like 2 more turns. Since culture is stored it doesn’t slow down your gameplay either. Don’t know if you knew this already though. Great video.

"If you have space to expand and don't then you're playing wrong" I think exactly describes one of the key reasons why I prefer Civ 5 to Civ 6

Hey studdy, you spoke briefly about the importance of the classical era golden age, and we saw that in the multiplayer streams from a couple weeks ago, maybe a video focusing purely on that would be pretty cool. benefits of it, how to guarantee it etc?

I played a fun Portugal game where I routinely bought units from the barbs. It was cheaper than buying them in my cities, and I ended with a lot of good city states popping up. Sometimes you can buy unique units like Legions or the various unique warriors. It is always worth checking periodically what units you can buy. And of course, Portugal can get a ridiculous amount of money from trade in an archipelago game. It would suck rocks in a Pangaea game of course. ;)

Woah i found your channel like a month ago and i gotta say that you really upped your articulation in a year or so. This is the first of your older vids i got recommended. Good for you man!

i dead ass had 3 barb galleys come out of the fog of war one turn after i placed a city all i had was a slinger and they destroyed me in two turns then right after i resettled the city one galley came out stole a builder and i lost it i built a navy like never before seen in the first 60 turns and i destroyed everything that floated i did manage to get the builder back though lol

Looks like Vicky is out to force you to actually play tall.

Here's me just getting the game and watching for kind of a guide and I'm lost lol. So much in this game to learn but I'm down for it.

Before Kupe was in the game, Victoria was the OG "I'm gonna put a city as far away of my empire as I can, better if it's in another continent altogether". Also, the AI reads the tacks and acts accordingly to sabotage the players.

@oakdragon8756

2 жыл бұрын

I've often wondered about that. I know there's a setting to make them public so other players can see them and wondered if an AI counted. Would turning that off work?

@MrTrellheim

2 жыл бұрын

​@@oakdragon8756 To be honest, it's not clear if the AI really reads the tacks. The devs have been asked about it and they deny everything (of course), but it happens with alarming frequency and it's a meme among the player base.

Best drinking game, take a drink everytime potato says “theoretically”😂😂

Lady of the reeds and marshes dude

Watching other people play Civ 6 is like watching other people pick up in clubs. I'm like "Please rewind three turns because I was still writing notes and missed the middle bit".

Im used to tall being one city. In Civ 5 it was a great strategy. I was surprised in Civ 6 that its almost obligatory to settle at least a few cities. 😅

Gran columbia is my favorite civ for a religious victory. Apostles can promote then move and the +1 movespeed is great for spreading fast

9:29 🤣🤣🤣🤣 man i love civ 6 barbs, you just made my day.

So, the lesson of the tall build lesson is that the game pushes you to a wide build far too much because claiming more land is the basis of CIV6

In order to force a tall game, one setting that could have been changed is to greatly increase the amount of AI players, because there would be less available territory to grab.

You almost always go with 2 scouts, but with this epic of a start, and Gran Columbia it really seems like the kind of game for a scout-slinger-slinger because then you could defend that incredible bounty you had better.

@richarddecredico6098

Жыл бұрын

Idiocy

Tall in civ6 is 6-7 cities, so you can abuse audience chamber. 6 if you want Amani in a city state, 7 if you want an extra city.

Love the content keep up the work that makes KZread a great platform

You could have kept the +1 production in cities card in a while longer as you knew that you'd have another civic researched within 4 turns - just about in time for a change the beginning of settler production. Right?

A good thing with playing tall is you can spread put your few cities more. Like 5-7 tiles apart.

I really need to sit down and look at building cities and getting bonus better. I had no idea the water mill boosted anything. Thanks to potatomcwhiskey and his tips I’m playing on immortal now and if my next game goes smoothly gonna try deity

Nice start, Potato! I'm sorry you had to deal with Covid, but you sound pretty good, considering. I had to deal with it myself a couple months ago. It wasn't pleasant. Stay safe, stay kind, and we'll be looking forward to the fun content!

Love the content. One nitpick: Bogota is pronounced Bo (like go)-go-Tah, not bahgota.

i get that Pingala in the early game is strong, but given that you need to pop out 3 more settlers the value of magnus and the chops you're gonna have to do nway is pretty high too. plus with provision you don't lose Population and that translate to more tiles being worked early on. Besides as far i seen, pingala scales better with more population.

In CivV it was very common for me to play tall till the Industrial Era, build all the National Wonder that I wanted in my 4-5 cities, because you needed to have the specific building in all of you cities, and there were a lot of negative feedback for being wide. But in CivVI has totally different mechanics you need to expand as much as you can.

Yes Potato! Buzzing for another playthrough.

Sorry to hear you had covid, great video as always!

Colombia is an absolute joy to play, that extra movement is amazing especially when the scouts get their tier one perks. Zoom zoom zoom

Civ youtubers are so entertaining because of the variety in playstyles and preferences they all have.

Top job dude, information overload. Game on xx

Can't wait for Spuddy to attempt the Blob again! It looked so awesome! Plz plz plz, try another blob strat Spuddy!

just played my closest attempt of beating Deity using Germany! Sadly Babylon is my neighbor and I have to play tall using the Hansas and smart districting to keep up with him so thanks for the tall playthrough because I'll need it

39:19 "If you're taking resources from the AI, that's resources they don't have to use against you." I'll be honest, I've reached the point where I'm actively LIMITING doing this. If you sell all your luxuries, strategic resources and diplomatic favor, it's absolutely possible to bankrupt all the AIs on a standard map on Deity, and it just cripples them, leaving the game too easy. Nowadays I have as a rule for myself that I don't sell diplomatic favor unless the AI asks me for it, and only sell strategic resources in emergency situations where I need the cash. Unless I'm doing something like a One City Challenge, then I'll go for every advantage I can get.

Love the thumbnail. I hope it brings more people to the channel.

The first upgrade to the warrior is attack only, not defence, I like to go the other one and head into ranged defence down the other column

Watching you play shows me how much more I have to learn. Thanks for your efforts. Tall sucks in civ 6 lol.

Potato every game: I'm playing tall. Tall is between 4-6 cities. Also Potato every game: I think I might have to go wide instead.

i'm no vet civ player but it feels like a good 3 city start followed by some dev and a natural increase up to 5 or 6 is the way to go tall. beyond that, it's just natural progression. that good 3 spot, its like a clean classic zerg eco opening if it works right. going 4 is too greedy and going 2 is too little.

I'm glad you clarified it wasn't the Halo Flood. I was concerned.

of course the brits gonna go for the tea

Hey, I have a question. I get the fact that locking in the district is good for the locking the production cost. But I can't help to notice that you place the districts even if there are chopable features. Is it better to not chop them and place the district ASAP? Or does it depend on the situation?

Hey potato, any chance of sharing the "code", "number" whatever if I wanted to replay that setting? Would be awesome. Thanks. Really enjoy your playthroughs!

Woooo! I’ve been enjoying tall games lately too! I’m enjoying this a lot.

you must absolutely be exhausted after a game of Civ 6. I am already tired and it's only 30 minutes in, thinking it's nap time!

@Undertaker257

Ай бұрын

Maybe add some working out, eat more energizing food?

Locking in the price in districts is something that you want to take advantage of, the price continues to increase as you build more.

I think the consideration between tall and wide is less about the number of cities and how the cities are settled. Wide being getting as many cities in as possible where tall leaves room for the cities to have more tiles for themselves

I learn something every video. I've been playing by best games recently and that has a lot to do with the strategies Im learning here.

Quirked up start location with a little bit of spices busting it down Civ style? It’s goated with the sauce!

I've come up with a new mode for playing CIV VI. Here's how: (1) Start a new game with your preferred settings (but that should include the randomized tech tree option); (2) on the first turn, open the tech and civic panels and click on the highest "Future Tech" and "Future Civic" at the far right of the tech tree and civic tree windows. (3) turn off the research panel and civics panel in the World Tracker at the upper left of the screen. (4) Play the entire game without re-opening the trees. (5) If you manage to get all the way to Future Tech before the game has been won by either you or the computer, re-open the tree and click on the next highest/uppermost tech that is not yet known. (6) Once you have won or lost the game using any of the winning criteria, you may turn the tree windows back on and start selecting the old techs and civics that you missed. WARNING: this game mode is much harder than the regular mode, so turn down your difficulty settings. I've played 10 games this way, and in some games you end up skipping more than half the techs and civics. I like this method because it feels more realistic, in that you don't know what the future holds. It's more about adapting than planning. It has forced me to play differently, and so I've seen some win/lose closing videos that I've never seen before.

Question here, if England is sending the settler for the tea, if you could sell her tea, will she still view it as important to forward settle or is the AI thinking it has a copy don't view it as important anymore?

A tall game I believe is the number of governors you can have is the amount of cities you can have, 1 governor per city. I mean just the initial governors, not with secret societies or the additional governor you get with that civ I forget the name of lol

3:20 I'm fairly sure the watermill boosts rice/grain you settle on though

For me, a tall build is one where you expand the cities to their maximum potential, rather than pure number of cities. Most districts, most territory.

Me who normally builds no more cities than governers:

Some times I like to watch one of your videos and not play the game. Your commentaries are so excelent!

Hey im from chile i been watching your videos for a long time and i haven't see any mapuche game can you do that next i would appreciate it. Love your videos Potatos :)

If you always take the same promotion you won't get op units when you merge them to armies. Make 2 of a unit and take them down opposite sides of tree. If they level 3 and 4 when you merge you get a rank 7. But if they go down the same side of tree it's only a rank 4.

"A dominant game is inherently not tall." True, unless you raze you enemies to the ground! *Ghandi laughs in nukes.*

missed out on a lot of chopping / forced growth when placing districts.. eg. when placing theater square you couldve forced caracan to grow furst to place that cities theatre square too..

I feel like you should have moved a second scout (or the warrior) down for blocking England when you saw that she was going for the second choke-point. I feel like you could have been able to block her if you did. (After the barb camp had been killed, those two units were freed up)

sticks and stones may break my bones but this city excites me

Guess I never paid attention but I was today years old when I found out water mills boost farming resources…

I just rerolled from a flat, horrible Mongol start to the perfect Torres, Pericles start. Needless to say, start locations, while not the end all be all, really decide how slow your early game will be.

Sorry if it’s elsewhere in comments, but what is the map tack mod in use here? Mine does not have the middle set of icons, just standard and wonders. Like this much more.

hey potato do you have a stream schedule? ive been watching you a lot more than playing and i like the live experience

Personally I always thought that tall meant to get as much value from all of your land. Size is irrelevant so long as you have maximum possible output from each tile. Wide to me, means that you're developing your cities but you're not that worried about reaching every city's potential

I had a really nice game as the Inca on deity that I just wrapped up yesterday. I’m not the best when it comes to micromanaging eurekas and what not. But I ended up building sort of tall, ended up having 7 cities by like turn 120 or so and ended the game with 9 original cities and then two that I took over at the end of the game cause deity AI went aggro on me and I had to teach them a lesson. Usually I try to spam cities on deity but I find that I lose those games more often then I lose the games I have sub 10 cities lol

goated with the sauce indeed

I started taking whiskey shots everytime he said theoretically. My liver..

When u plan out where ur placing your districts and such, and it shows u the yields and production when u do, is that a mod or is that part of one of the expansions?

First of all, thank you for the videos. Secondly, I've played Civ 6 for a while and I suck at it, but I still love it. Thirdly, I'm playing Civ. 6 on an iPhone, and I can't get a corporation to form with Economics. I can't figure out how to make a product. I industrialize the tile, get Economics, and get a Great Merchant and nothing happens. I can't find out where to get a corporation. I've tried looking at the Productions button, searching the Civilopedia, and I find nothing. What am I doing wrong? Any advice?

If you build additional districts next to a previously placed one, does that affect the adjacency bonus for the previously placed district? Or is it set in stone once you place it?

i love tall games. tall is what i've always loved about civ games. wide is for paradox games.

solid TOA in the capitol

Can someone explain why there's this tall/wide dichotomy? Especially with the Settler promotion on Magus (settlers don't cost pop), there is no point to doing small empires, outside of a self imposed challenge. And this game is making it even more difficult to be disciplined. Dense/Wide, on the other hand, I completely understand. But why not do Tall/Wide at the same time, especially with the amount of food your cities have.

@zman7692

2 жыл бұрын

Certain civs do better with Tall rather than wide simply because their ability to grow and make use of their strengths is more reliant on their geography. Civs like Khmer and Russia are good examples of very similar civs that prefer a Tall and Wide style respectively. If you're playing Khmer, you need good rivers, land rich with growth opportunity, and ideally you'd have space to build wonders/districts for good adjacency. Russia wants Tundra, which spawns in wide stretches, and often the land is a mix of unsettle-able flatland with no woods, and hilly riverlands with dense forest. Russia also benefits from having as many cities as possible due to their ability giving production/faith from Tundra as well as the Lavra district being the best district in the game. Conversely, Khmer's unique building gives .5 culture per citizen, meaning 1 city with 20 pop is equal to 2 cities with 10 pop, but 1 building is half the prod cost of 2. In this instance, Khmer's advantage is in their ability to snowball based on their population, and just turtle while wonder spamming and building every district in one city. You're right that Tall/Wide doesn't mean what it used to in Civ 5, atleast I assume that's what you're comparing it to? In Civ 6, I consider "Wide" gameplay to be 10+ cities, and "Tall" to be about 5-8. As for density vs spread, I personally think that spreading your cities out is the wrong way to play. Keeping your civilization dense and well connected only provides benefits, while having cities so far that their max borders do not touch leaves you open to invasion and weakens your ability to supply your empire. You should always play dense, and playing Tall or Wide is just about how many cities you are going to pack into the space you have.

@justsomeguy5470

2 жыл бұрын

The Myans are a good example of a civ that plays best with a tall build

@andrewklang809

2 жыл бұрын

@@zman7692 If you focus on forward-building for your early expansion, you often end up with a lot of space behind you. The longer the game goes on, the more likely key resources will be found there. It's good to keep expanding through the Renaissance if you're safe, because those new cities can be very helpful once you get your city-states going as their district output can rival even your big cities if they are built around their best districts. You just need to factor in buying districts or getting Hercules to help them along. Buying Granaries, Monuments, and Water Mills with your crazy mid-game weath, however, helps them a lot too. Dense city placements are best if they line up well enough for district adjacencies, or if you are playing a civ with extra bonuses to adjacencies and/or district cost (Japan, Germany, Byzantium), but as you expand into less-desirable lands, it doesn't hurt to spread them out a big, since the districts (and a couple production tiles) are all they really need.

You see, I do BOTH tall and wide. I have the low city count of tall, but make quick decisions like you need to in a wide game!

I always try to get one coastal city if possible cuz mausoleum is never a bad play.