For those who missed my intro, this is a 9 min intro just for you :)

@teshyatan7346

13 күн бұрын

Thank you!

@NJDJ1986

13 күн бұрын

I can finally leave a comment now since yt was acting weird for the last 6 hours! And why isn't your comment pinned ISAD?

@IsuckAtDriving

13 күн бұрын

KZread being weird on my end too :(

@GamerGod1995

13 күн бұрын

I was there when you had your Lexus FLA intro I love your videos ISuckAtDriving

you were penalized for existing, basically

@aeonjusco-azre-2885

13 күн бұрын

The worst part is you were just minding your own business

@shirokov5965

13 күн бұрын

💀💀💀

@smith4165

13 күн бұрын

😂😂

@ReedsBeans

13 күн бұрын

He is a very aggressive driver lol why are you surprised he drives dirty

@damnsonalabanca420

13 күн бұрын

Sounds like my mum

"Avoidable Contact" 🤣 Like with all the complicated calculations they can do properly in the game, how can they not manage to recognize that the car you hit had just decelerated from 100 to 5 in a half second and was currently sideways on the track? Like that seems like it should be easy to detect, no? I've seen so many of these incidents since the latest update.

@thatfunnykekguy6377

13 күн бұрын

To think they improved the system to not give false positives... Turn 10? More like Turn L

@kireta21

13 күн бұрын

All they need is to use ghosting for collisions at sufficient speed difference, say, 20% and more. Percent is better than flat value, because it means treshhold will be lower in technical sections, and higher on straights, meaning you won't be able to abuse it to skip overtaking in power builds, but at same time braking too late before corner will be enough to ghost thorugh properly cornering cars, before flying off into grass. Penalty system is a good way to discourage decent-enough players from elbowing their way though others, but game also needs anti-idiot protection to protect decent players from newbs and morons. Sure, serious sims don't have them, but that's because they use manually reviewed reports and simply ban people who drive like idiots.

@colinmack2566

13 күн бұрын

@@kireta21 Totally agree with this approach. I'm sure there'd be a lot of details to sort out to make a good, full system, but starting with a simple step like "if a car is sideways/spinning in the middle of the track with little forward speed, keep it ghosted until it's moving at a decent speed in the right direction with no one right behind it" would be a good start.

@grigorisbagiaras8065

13 күн бұрын

@@kireta21 You said it yourself, if it was easily programmable the serious sims would have it already. It's unfortunate and can totally ruin your game but we can only hope for constant improvements.

@kireta21

13 күн бұрын

@@grigorisbagiaras8065 it's not an issue of it being hard to make. Serious racing sims like iRacing are all about realism, and cars phasing in and out of existence isn't very realistic. Plus they don't have much of this issue to begin with, because of their "no excuses" policy to bad driving, something more causal games can't afford.

Built from the ground up moment

@lilbin378

13 күн бұрын

Why people keep saying this as if being build from the ground up means “perfection”? It means they started from scratch so realistically that would mean bugs are even more likely. Because they aren’t using previous tried and tested systems. I’m not defending the game but the “build from the ground up” slogan that people keep using just makes no sense.

@sternthomas4218

13 күн бұрын

​@@lilbin378 thats the joke, he is calling out the irony.

@arkhalis3682

13 күн бұрын

​@@lilbin378this guy has brains

@thatfunnykekguy6377

13 күн бұрын

@lilbin378 because Microsoft itself implied, since it's made from the ground up, it's perfect and above every other products they ever released.

@jojodivas9211

13 күн бұрын

@@lilbin378by standards nowadays means it should be good. You can’t just sell a product with numerous flaws and say “Built from the ground up” and then summarize it’s a good game, that’s just scamming people. The worse part is, FH5 looks better than Motorsport.

I swear you're basically just given a penalty for even thinking about this game.

Yes, absolutely "AVOIDABLE".

best part is you can see the guy who INTENTIONALLY rammed into him, only gets a 4 second penalty

...is the point where I quit immediately.

Bumps into random person at Walmart Random Woman at the intercom speaker: "Total time penalty is about 5 seconds" I would legitimately burst out laughing.

I've seen my fair share of BS in my time, but that is some truly foul BULL SHIT!

There's the Forza we know and love(?)

@ryutenmen

13 күн бұрын

You meant "love".

@gogofapo01

13 күн бұрын

It was more than 10 years ago

@BlueFlagAlpha

13 күн бұрын

Not my Forza

The crash right at the start got the "Avoidable Contact" message missing. And thank God it did, that would have been totally infuriating, given there was basically no time to avoid it.

To be fair it was avoidable. You should have obviously known that was gonna happen and sat at the starting line for a little longer. Obviously

@kireta21

13 күн бұрын

War Thunder uses that logic whenever people complain about spawn camping: "It's your fault for being spawn camped because you didn't protect your spawn!". Kinda, yeah, I was playing the game, instead of sitting at spawn, waiting for campers to show up.

Absolutely filthy driving there. Shame on you! That's not what Forza is about 😮

Someone pushing me behind and make me goes into gravel, and yes 2 sec penalty for me..

"Avoidable contact" is the biggest running joke in this game. It cars suddenly go sideways and start to spin around in circles across the track, the game should be able to identify that. That's silly easy to do compared to some other judgement calls. Just look at which direction the car is pointing at and compare that to where it should be pointing at and maybe how fast it is rotating. There is absolutely no excuse for why this is still an issue.

@jwallace2913

13 күн бұрын

Doesn't mean the cars not initially involved should just going blasting through with no regard - which is what always happens. You get spun and the entire field will continue to take you out. Avoiding another wreck is just as important as not causing one. Longer races would build up some more patience imo..

@sdmayday

13 күн бұрын

@@jwallace2913 You certainly have a point. Maybe it would be a good idea to simply ghost that car then. It still happens many times when you totally cannot do anything about it. There might be cars to your left and right and if you stepped on the brakes too hard, you'd get hit by the car behind you anyways. It feels like everybody looses except for the cars up front and the person who maybe caused all of it.

@xaernt

13 күн бұрын

Yeah should ghost car at certain G at low speed

I like that the one who rammed the poor guy only got 4 seconds.

Ren Hazuki when playing Forza Motorsport 2023 with Ferrari 641 at Hockenheimring: Barely touched another car. The game: YOUR TOTAL TIME PENALTY IS 25 SECONDS. Ren Hazuki: HUH!?

ISAD : * witnesses a crash where he couldn't have escaped the collision * Forza : " Avoidable Contact " - "Total time penalty is about 5 seconds" ISAD : " Nice update huh "

Devs: What part of "from the ground up" do u not understand. The punishment will continue until morale improves.

GrandmaDriving: Clean driver Forza Motorsport: Penalizable

I personally feel that them fixing the proximity arrows, they made the bad drivers worse. It's an absolute war on the tracks now. Keeping an S safety rating is impossible now

Nice battle with the Lambo, respect.

You hit him really well tho, ngl. He spinned some good three times or so.

Just finished playing a session. Nudged someone who was driving so slowly by accident and got hit with a 2 and half second penalty. The guy took it personally and rammed me right off the track at full speed and only got hit with a 1 second penalty. The inconsistency is horrendous

I can expect any upcoming events or upgrades generally in any game except the penalty system of forza

Poor grandma deserves some respect. Also I love the new intro with the F1s included

And they give the guy who actually spun him 1 second LESS than you.

What the best GT class car for Le Mans?

New penalty class. Make a preexisting spinning car spin more/faster.

Every single driver in this lobby is Romaine Grosjean.

5 seconds penalty is insane for something not even your fault

"Avoidable Contact"

Avoidable contact, yeah right

Me: Exists Person 1: let me just… Person 2: flies through air Forza: TOtAl TIMe peNalTy is ABOut 5 SEcOndS

I just got a 2 and a half second penalty for hitting someone while they were spinning out. I had no chance of avoiding them. An easy fix should be to dismiss all contact penalties if the driver you hit has lost control already

"Avoidable contact"

What a yoke, the 5 second penalty.

They need to think about the penalty system thoroughly

You love to see it. Still not as petty as FH5

IsuckAtDriving: breathes Forza: total time penalty is about 24 minutes

"Avoidable Contact" Forza tell me how can avoidable it lmao

man those tyres were dead af at the end 💀

This just shows that turn 10 doesn’t care enough about their player base to fix the penalty system of a broken game

When you get a 50sec penalty on behalf of Turn10.

Harsh but well recovered

Awesome driving, any plans on trying spotlight again?

@IsuckAtDriving

11 күн бұрын

Currently enjoying the BMW Procar spec series!

New penalty class. Increasing the spin rate of a spinning car.

They need to rework the Avoidable Contact penalty, most of the time I CAN'T avoid anyone.

So... is this AFTER the most recent update that's supposed to fix it?

Wait i thought you finished 3rd place, how did you suddenly end up in 5th place ISAD?

Turn 10 needs to change the wording of these penalties from "Avoidable contact" to "Failure to use the 'pause' collision avoidance system".

why does the higher revs of the LFA sound like the BO2 Zombies scream???

I quit playing Forza after 4 for a reason. Got out while the series was ahead.

The penalty system is broken. It does not really discourage bad driving. Not sure what they need to do to fix it, but when they do fix it though, they need to change it to also give you a time bonus instead of a penalty whenever you punt an exocet.

never change frr

Did Forza hire Angel Hernandez?!?

Applying the Ayrton Senna Driving Style I see....

"Avoidable"

Just 9 & half minutes of listening to the LFA! 👂🔊🚗

Really wish they would allow us to submit bs penalties like this to like some review system or something. I get that the system will never be perfect, but we should be able to contest crap like that so the safety rating doesn’t drop.

it seems that Lexus LFA still doesn't have exhaust tips

Nah, that's insane, I would have just quit.

Turn 10 correction: "Forza Motorsport is built from the ground DOWN".

Memed from the ground up.

Just play Forza 7, and don't be shy. Be a part of pure, and honest for all, online madness!

I havent touched the multiplayer yet and dont think i ever will. I played more in 2012 on fm4, when i was 12 and sucked lol

I refuse to play this game til they fix the shitty penalty system

@thatfunnykekguy6377

13 күн бұрын

Glad I can play it for free on PC 🏴‍☠️🦜I am a pirate indeed.

@shredhead21

13 күн бұрын

Looks like you’re never going to play it lol.

@bobhenry6159

13 күн бұрын

I used to say the same thing. Now I say I'll never play it. In fact, I won't buy another Turn 10 title. All hype, no substance.

Gt7 players compliain about the unjust penalty system. Meanwhile Forza:

How do I get these tunes?

audio weird for anyone else, or just me?

Are all the tunes yours? Could you put the name of the tuners

@IsuckAtDriving

13 күн бұрын

Tunes are my own

fm seriously needs ghosting like horizon

2:26 isuckatdriving : I am Overtake Forza : ToTaL TiMe PeNaLtIe Is AbOuT SiX SeCoNdS,

is a 5 second penalty huge in a car race

So, basically, they still haven't fixed anything. Again, why do you keep playing this excuse of a game? I hope Turn 10 and Playground both go bankrupt for scamming people with this garbage.

Christ I hope update 8 fixes more of this nonsense. Considering we aren’t getting a track😅

How the hell was that avoidable?! What were you supposed to do? Teleport???

Great race with Lexus LFA, ISAD!

I surprised he can still play this game Good driving though

Why on earth are cars which OBVIOUSLY lost control still not ghosted out?

Playing both G T, Forza and F 1. There's nothing different about the Forza penalty system to G T. F 1 is even more strict. You can never perfect a game unfortunate, in F 1, it would take a stewards review and enquiry looked at for a while, racing games don't get that allowance. I'd say on G T it's even harsher.

might as well get a penalty for driving to fast on a race?

ok, so purposely driving off track to pass someone does not mean a penalty, but getting pushed off track by a clown who turned a chicane into a 3 wide situation is 0.8 seconds, and getting hit by a beyblade is 5 seconds. noted.

jeesh the machine learning team must did something stupid to feature engineering?

👍

Why can't they make it ghost mode permanently??!!!

0:26 HOW ON EARTH WAS THAT A 5 SECOND PENALTY??????????????

XD becouse?

I cant play forza but from these videos i see, the penalty system looks like absolute bullshit

how to play this mode in motorsport ?

@IsuckAtDriving

6 күн бұрын

You go to featured multiplayer under open class which rotates every week.

@Starboy0820

6 күн бұрын

@@IsuckAtDriving omg thanks for reply are the legend bro 😻❤️👍🏼

Well I dont know if it was tilt but that first race was incredibly bad driving anyways.

Forza has more penalties than a bad NFL referee team.

Could be a 30sec video xD

Nice game LOL

man, youtube is really going soviet with comments

TO BAD FOR THE PENALTY😢

With all the time, money, and resources spent on AI and ML, this is the best we can do?

yo that AMG sounds like ass

Man, I'd just quit. What absolute trash.