2011 is just too tight to be beat for me

Big ramy vs Dennis James

@ChinkRoy

3 жыл бұрын

Ram me vs Big D james

2011 had the best lighting and I think his tan color complimented it very well exaggerating the shadows giving him better lines and separation. the darker you are or the darker your tan is the less shadows are gonna show on your physique but you obviously don't wanna be just white either 😂. But 2013 he definitely was bigger and maybe a little drier but I still prefer his 2010-2011 look the best.

@mikthe2004

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. The lighting in 2013 is very flat. If the lighting was the same as in 2011 he would probably look better. He was bigger and harder in 2013 for sure. Lighting makes a huge difference, and in 2013 it was shit!!

2011 flows almost to perfection. In 2013 he was bigger but blockier with slight distension and not as conditioned. 2011 all day.

No lie, I remember looking at Phil's physique in 2011 and thinking how could he possibly improve?? He hit his peak perfection that year and would only risk blowing out his body if he continued to play the mass game. How right I was. Little by little, and year after year, his body began to mutate and in the end we had a bloated herniated dissapointment the likes of which were downright shameful to behold on the Olympia stage. 2011, though... my god, what a physique!

@morefoodsmorenudes8046

2 жыл бұрын

if he stayed at 2013, he would be fine. but i think 2014 is where it started to go downhill

@novicelifts5197

Жыл бұрын

U cannot stay that size. He never chase size even in 2020. Phil was 242 pounds in his last olympia in 2020. Tell me where did he chase size???? Next time educate yourself before u talk Bs

@novicelifts5197

Жыл бұрын

What got him is father time and not ‘chasing size’.

@1USF

Жыл бұрын

It is called aging bro

@MARZOSIRUS

Жыл бұрын

2012 is my favorite version

2011 looks healthier!

@ashiquitanu3682

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@michaelmayers3622

3 жыл бұрын

13 look better

@ashutoshchatterjee1623

3 жыл бұрын

Healthy shall not be a word in body building

@MarmaladeSally

2 жыл бұрын

2 more years of drug and food abuse.

@qwikscopez6619

3 ай бұрын

​@@ashutoshchatterjee1623it should be, these guys are dying out here. If we encourage a healthy look we will save lives, simple as and that's more important

It's mostly a battle of different lighting, to be honest. However, 2011 had an objectively better waistline that makes pretty much every pose look better IMO

Even Phil's obliques had started declining along with his abs in a major way by 2013. It's a shame. That fantastic midsection and small waist came crashing down so quickly. 2013 might be bigger, but 2011 was a beautiful physique and perfectly symmetrical. 2011 takes it all the way

We always complain school didn't teach us anything important but right about now those spot the difference puzzles from 1st grade are coming in clutch!!!!

2011 Phil is the best bodybuilder of all time in my opinion

That is without a doubt the best analysis i have ever seen of this heats prime props

crazy how in just 2 years he's become so tight that the 2013 front lat spread is cramped and labored

I notice the 2013 version his back and arms are just at his best. Also I do like his mid section as well. Not as good as 2011 but still solid mid section ! Wow Phil 2013 ASAP

I think the reason it's so hard to come to a concensus on which of these years is better is because people's definition of "best year" is split into two groups. Group 1) who looks the best? Most would agree this is the 2011 physique. Group 2) who would win in a head to head competition? Most would agree that 2013 wins there. Side note: I think this is the same reason people are split on Ronnie's best being either 1999 or 2003

Always liked 2011 due to aesthetics, but when you highlighted the lower lat area where he seems to flatten out in 2013, It become clear that 2011 was the better version.

He was already packing tons of muscle in 2011 for his frame. Bigger in 2013 but the quality of his flow was starting to go just a little bit.

2013 wins it, the lighting was just SO much better in 2011

@Tyler1330

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed in all but a very few shots 2013 is basically as muscular his bone structure would allow before major stomach distension takes over. 2011 his best overall (conditioning & balance) but 2013 more of the pinnacle of his genetic ability; hence, why 2013 gets my vote.

All second place finishishes vs the previous years, for the best number 2 !

@markheywood8236

3 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Apart from 97 when Nasser should have won, there wasn't really another year you could take off Dorian. Only one of Ronnie's wins was questionable. They were so friggin' dominant. But it's a real shame that Ray, Wheeler, Levrone and Nasser don't have a single Olympia between them. In any other era they'd all have been multiple champs.

I,s anyone wondering what Roaly is dooing write now or how hes looking ? Sorry for bad english aim not from UK or US

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

Go on his Instagram bro

2011 was more balanced, detail, and had the better flow. Some of the differences is the lighting but the obvious difference is the abs and tighter waistline in 2011.

Interesting comparison and I agree with your preference. The midsection pulls the 2011 physique together much better. I also think the muscle separation is better in 2011 (but it could just be the lighting). The thing is that muscle size goes to 2013 but the midsection is slightly problematic ... whereas the 2011 physique just doesn't have any weakness.

Where did his linea alba go!? How does that just disappear like that!? In 2013 there is literally no separation between the 2 abs in the 2nd row.

Great video as always man, I think you should also do a 2015 vs 2016 as I think Olympia wise these are his two other certainly 2016 you could say the waist line wasn’t as good as a 2011 or 2013 but I believe he improved on his condition and had a real granite look to his physique especially the back, then you could put them up against the version that wins this one

Dorian 95 Olympia vs Akim 2020 Olympia Would be a great matchup

@dj_m19

3 жыл бұрын

bro what, Dorian smokes him easily...how is that a great matchup?

Let’s just take a moment to realize that 2011 had so phenomenal lighting and if you give that lighting to 2013 it’s light out for 11

Congrats on all the new subs

Phil physique in 2011 was incredible, really beautiful. I vote for 2011.

Great Video Marx. The 2011 Prejudging lighting is perhaps some of the best ever for clarity of pictures. I remember trying to get the 2013 MD PJ pics to match the clarity of 2011 MD PJing pics & although I came close, could never get them there. Saying that, the 2013 PJing lighting was pretty dang good and the last good lighting on an Olympia stage until the 2017 PJing. I'm speaking of video here, not pictures. Some of the 2016 Olympia Pictures look amazing but the video was BLaahh. Same with 2014,2015 & 2013 at night. Phil did lose a lot of fullness from the 2013 PJing to the night show. That 2013 PJing Phil is probably the roundest muscles ever in history. Like you pointed out though, there are a lot of PJing pics where his stomach is protruding but he is so dang big & round it didn't look bad on video until it was caught in a still picture. I think you got it right. 2011 is better than Finals 2013 Phil & the PJing 2013 Phil; who was so good they pulled him from comparisons early on; then it's personal preference. They were both shocking. The perfection of 2011, where you really can't see room for improvement; then 2012 was a bit of a step backwards. Then actually improving over 2011 almost everywhere at PJing except the midsection. I go back & forth but have to go with my memory of my jaw dropping at how round he was in 2013 because we had almost seen a 2011 Heath at the 2010 Arnold with about a 4 pound increase in 2011. I think he was up 10 pounds at the 2013 PJing & very close on conditioning. Another rambling comment just writing as I'm thinking.

2011 was the most aesthetic 2013 was the fullest and best 2016 was the hardest and driest If I had to rank them 1st 2013 2nd 2016 3rd 2011

@casdomdomcas5214

3 жыл бұрын

2015 is underrated.

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

@@casdomdomcas5214 he was good but kinda flat in 2015 it wasn't Phil's best look

2008 IRONMAN PRO. I don't know what it it is about this contest but he had something special here...to me it's his best showing.

2011. His conditioning was so crisp and his symmetry was phenomenal. 2013 is a little bigger but it’s not better.

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

It is in my opinion

One thing for sure the lighting of 2011 is SO much better

Phil heath is definitely one of the best very detailed and when facing forward walking he actually looks like he's walking around with a shield on his back like a ninja turtle awesome back but anyway I liked the 2011 physique the best and one thing you could say about Phil is that he was always in tip top condition

You called this one pretty much perfectly, but there is one thing you didn’t take into consideration and it seems like everyone misses this key observation, What sets Phil’s 2011 version above the rest was his youthful and healthy aesthetics in 2011, something happened after that year and he was never the same again, no doubt he was still a very dominant champion but I think he pushed the drugs extremely hard to lock in his reign as the champion which ended up giving his face an older more worn down look, and his mid section also got the brunt of it as well, I think if he kept things steady after 2011 he would’ve had an even more impressive and longer reign as the champion, but my guess is he got worried that someone would take the title from him so he pushed his body to the absolute max which eventually was his downfall. But like I said you judged this one very well, but take a close look at what I just mentioned and you will notice that he looks a lot different in 2013, so 2011 is his overall best look of his career

His delts aren't that much bigger in 2013. That was the year he started hitting his back poses leaning back significantly farther. This made his lower lats look worse, but his delta look significantly bigger

His face always kills me but it was better in 2011.

Best vedio 🔥🔥

If you like a bigger more muscular Phil you'll go for 2013 but if you like a smaller more conditioned Phill with abs you'll go for 2011. Personally I much prefer a smaller Phil with abs. He looks absolutely incredible with abs, everything about his look in 2011 was on point even his tan, the lighting and posing. His 2011 physique was pure perfection for me.

Let me tell you the truth Phil looked the best when he turned pro.Then came the size game and he lost his aesthetic qualities and now he looks BLOCKY.Go look at some of his earlier pictures and you will see what I mean.

@gustavofigueiredo1798

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. He was smaller, but more aesthetic. And his arms seemed even more impressive on a overall smaller physique. Even the weird four pack looked good. He wasn't better, but looked better.

@fad2679

3 жыл бұрын

You're focussing only on his aesthetics. In terms of bodybuilding he was a better bodybuilder from 2011-13.

@joetoth5465

3 жыл бұрын

@@fad2679 Big gut blockiness does not make you a better bodybuilder.

@bambostarla6259

Жыл бұрын

You could say the same for our king ronnie coleman. In 91 he was amazing, then he played the size game and gained a bubble gut.

@DatNguyen-hx6rb

10 ай бұрын

@@joetoth5465 that's why you're hero keybroad and Phil is 7 times Mr O

Agree with you on this one 2011.

The midsection really makes a big difference in this one.

Juliana Malacarne 2017 vs Shanique Grant 2018. Curious if Juliana could have won another title

The reason he was not as good at night in 2013 is he was not even compared to the rest anymore he destroyed everyone so bad he had won after the friday show so he propbably relaxed a bit. Well deserved that friday night 2013 he came as close as anyone ever has on beating Ronnie coleman who is the all time goat.

I'd like to pick the 2013 one, but my eyes keep coming back to the 2011 one.

I think 2011 just had much better lighting, which makes the physique look much better

2011 heath is good but 2013 heath is awesome 💪🥕

Very very close. 2011 ab separation / detail crisp but 2013 lat width his best ever!! Basically IMO it's a preference comparison - where 1 yr stands out the other falls a touch short. Lats & more overall size in 13 - looked sharper & more deeply separated in 11!

2011 is just perfection to the core. In fitness now a days we confused Aesthetics for Athletics. Andrew Jacked is Aesthetic. 2011 Phil Heath is Healthy Athleticism perfected to max !!

People hate Phil heath but yet even he lost they still talk about him has t b for something 7 times O whether you like him or not

2013

He might have improved his legs and back in 2013. But I still like his 2010 and 2011 version. I like to believe that he would have won way more than 8 titles if he did not blow himself out trying to get bigger.

Young Phil was very reminiscent of Kevin Levrone, just bigger in certain areas. He should’ve never tried to get any bigger.

The 2011 had a disadvantage due to the dark background and lighting where the shadow on his arms and hamstrings disappeared into the dark background

MMM lingo : pitcher, uhgain, laags, things of that nature, running rough shot and of course... a man's butt

Commenting for the algorithm, things of that nature

2013 conditioned maybe but lacking the muscle separation of 2011. That lack of separation not conditioning is what’s lacking with the open olympia today

I think 13 was the best, 2011 had best abs and that is about it.

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah 11 had the best abs and aesthetics but 2013 and 2016 were better overall versions of Phil in my opinion

@bestgirl2500

3 жыл бұрын

@@iambodybuildingyt221 I would have to look back at 16' I don't remember it being one of his best years. I like Heath from 10-13 the best.

Can you do comparison between chris bumstead and sadik hadzovic ?

The vast difference in lighting makes this almost impossible.

Marx can you do a Rich Gaspari video or a comparison of him with another bodybuilder?

LEE PRIEST v.s Hadi Chupon... the giant slayers finally v.s eachother

Lighting was way better in 2011 which makes it harder to compare

2011 is just perfect!!!!!!!!!

I use to look like this, then I woke up😅

Just throwing out a future comparison video idea - Chris Dickerson vs. Chris Bumstead.

2011 is the best lighting of all time. Every body building competition should replicate

Make one between Lee priest vs Shawn Clarita

Finally

His abs look like the number 25. He’s never had the most aesthetic physique. I’ve got 2011 Phil. Could just be the lighting though

2013 pre judging was superior likewise 2011 final was superior . And plz do Big Ramy 2018 final vs 2020 final.

I think his best shape ever was 2010 arnold classic. At his best he could go against anyone IMO...

@helixgaming9058

3 жыл бұрын

The lighting was crazy in that show.

It is crazy to say "i'd rather have this physique." No you wouldn't, I've shown three different girlfriends, a little sister and a mother photos of body builders. All of them react with disgust to ARNOLD. So phil heath? Or any modern bodybuilder is impossibly far out of a normal persons taste.

2016?

You see that ab split difference between two years?

2013 is better. But the lights can fool ppl.

No hands clasped? Do a video of phil 2008 through 2020 best hands clasped tournament.

If we’re going by what we prefer a lot of people will go for 2011, but objectively going by bodybuilding criteria that 2013 physique is really hard to beat, I think the only person that can beat that is Ronnie Coleman and only a few versions of Ronnie, namely 98,99,01 AC and 03

It's his 2010 Arnold Classic physique I'd say

11 for me all day.

2010 Phil Heath is underrated

How could they fuck up the lighting so bad in 2013

He got that puffy look in 2013 where he started to look like the Michelin man. 2011 all the way!

Nah - that rear lat spread 2011 (and this is understanding Phil leans back into the back shots) his lats are so fucking thick that they look like they are leaving an actual shadow over his lower back 😂😂 see that?? What the serious fuck!

2011 lighting was actually great why dont they go back to that

Phil es igual cada año. Poco más tamaño pero igual no cambia de forma importante.

Do 2011 vs 2012

The one with the best arm-to-waist ratio wins.

So How does 2020 Ramy can beat 2011 - 2013 Phil ??? 😂🤣😝

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

Because Ramy is twice as wide, has a much better structure, a superior x frame, dwarfs Phil both the lat spreads and most muscular, Ramy wipes the floor with Phil in poses like the side chest, abs and thigh, and both lat spreads, pose for pose Ramy soundly beats all versions of Phil, and Ramy is just alot bigger than Phil thats how. Phil is sharper and most aesthetic but its not enough to beat Ramy not at all not when Phil gives up so much width and size.

@user-uz4pr8xh3z

3 жыл бұрын

@@iambodybuildingyt221 Phil has more Deeper Separation , harder Details than Ramy . Phil's Conditioning looks more Perfectly , and 3D Outstanding effects , that Ramy can never touch.

@dj_m19

3 жыл бұрын

@@iambodybuildingyt221 you are delusional, Ramy is all size with no quality. Reminds me of a Markus Rhul, just a blob of muscle with no quality to it. Phil has everything in his corner other than frame and size itself. Conditioning, muscle fullness (muscle bellies), proportions, insertions, vascularity. All of it. Phil is too compact and dense for Ramy whose horrendous unconditioned quads throw off the entire symmetry of his body. Nonexistent calves, very weak forearms. Weak triceps. Shallow back. You are out of your mind if you think Ramy wins anything from the back, his back is pathetic compared to Phil's whose back is easily top 5 of all time if not even top 3 behind Yates and Coleman.

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-uz4pr8xh3z yeah Phil has better conditioning and arms but other than that Ramy is superior in pretty much every single way that Phil can never touch because of his size and structure 🤷‍♂️

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

@@dj_m19 bruh listen to yourself if you don't know what your talking about or if are talking outta your ass like you saying Ramy has no conditioning, looks like a blob, and has no back its sometimes just better to say nothing and keep to yourself.

2012 version is also insanity, all 3 are unbeatable by anyone in the history.

@samraizshoaib585

2 жыл бұрын

Ronnie 1998, 99, 01AC. Dorian in 93 and 95. In 2012 he lost to Kai.

@helixgaming9058

2 жыл бұрын

@@samraizshoaib585 if Kai won in 2012 then Shawn Ray won in 1999 you idiot 😂😂 worst version of Phil destroys all versions of Dorian, Dorian is no match for Phil. 2013 Phil would beat all versions of Ronnie except 2003 and maybe 1999

In 2011 his face looks young, in 2013 not anymore. There's also something about the skin. The guys with "palomboism" have a very dry and vascular looking skin and some sort of washed out aspect. I think it's the GH who gives that look after years of use. In 2013 his skin started to look worse.

Why not in between 2012!

This is lile 1998 vs 1999 Ronnie. A little better conditioning in the first year and the second year is a bit larger

He looks so much older in the face in '13

I would pick according who is against him on stage

2011 has much better lighting. It's like droplight goonlight vs not so great

2011 is the best Mr. OLYMPIA physique of all time.

I’m certainly in the minority here but I don’t love Heath’s physique. I recognize that it has AMAZING components to it, those fantastic arms for example. What jumps out to me though is how small his chest looks in the standing relaxed, most muscular, and front lat spread poses. The pecs just seem to get overwhelmed by the delts and biceps.

2011. Every year after Phil got worse and worse.

@laurikotivuori1585

3 жыл бұрын

Fucking nonsense. Bigger and better in 2013, even with the much worse lighting.

@marijancorluka4500

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurikotivuori1585 Obliques spilling over in 2013, ruined his front shots.

@icecoldlemonade6242

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurikotivuori1585 midsection began to spill over. Wasn’t as symmetrical.

@iambodybuildingyt221

3 жыл бұрын

No, Phil actually improved year to year in many ways the legs and back for example but his midsection began to grow after a while which was his downfall.

@JorgeRojas-ut3wj

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurikotivuori1585 Bigger does not equate to better. 2011 was more streamlined and healthier looking. In 2013 the midsection was already starting to bloat.

2011 Phil at 10:10 be like: - Call an ambulance... but not for me!

He literally has DBZ size arms