When They ALMOST Made The PERFECT Total War - Empire: Total War 2022 Review

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Is Empire: Total War Worth it in 2022? This is perhaps the Total War game that changed everything in the series for better or worse, and symbolized a massive shift in the design of Total War games. Empire took the genre far into the future, into the age of colonial empires, and an age of gunpowder and naval battles.
But Empire also took, and made some design choices that most of the traditional Total War fans took issue with. In this video, we'll go through most of the aspects of Empire that matter, and look at how the game came so close to being a true masterpiece, yet ended up... a bit further away than we hoped. Let me know what you think of Empire: Total War in the comments :)
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  • @BonkerzGamer119
    @BonkerzGamer1192 жыл бұрын

    there is nothing i want more than empire 2 to be the next historical total war, the global theatres and naval combat is all I want

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Would love that!

  • @alessiobenvenuto5159

    @alessiobenvenuto5159

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is something better tho: Medieval 3

  • @arvidgreat

    @arvidgreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alessiobenvenuto5159 no it can come after

  • @alessiobenvenuto5159

    @alessiobenvenuto5159

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@arvidgreat they would be both interesting, but medieval 2 aged much worse, especially the camera controls and the UI

  • @montyjarvis6920

    @montyjarvis6920

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alessiobenvenuto5159 already have it in the 1212AD mod for Attila, it'll be hard to beat that mod

  • @usinger8448
    @usinger84482 жыл бұрын

    Empire was my 1st Total War game and still my favorite. I have over a 1,000 hrs in and still not bored with it. Fingers crossed that they announce development on Empire 2 within a few years.

  • @minimortensen2902

    @minimortensen2902

    2 жыл бұрын

    i think a new total war will be released in 2023 or late 2022 if lucky. It will most likely either be a empire 2 or a medieval 3. But since medieval already has a medieval 2 and empire doesn't, makes me believe that it would make more sense to make empire 2. I can't even imagine an empire total war with the resources that we have today. It would be too epic!

  • @Metaldude1945

    @Metaldude1945

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@minimortensen2902 I can't wait for a single Unit George Washington wielding two Cutlasses dueling with King George who wields a blunderbuss with an axe attached to it. /s

  • @GeneralxRushton

    @GeneralxRushton

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think empire 2 with the tools today would be sick but I could see them trying for a WW2 Era aswell

  • @KrakenUnleashed

    @KrakenUnleashed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Metaldude1945 pls no

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still hoping for an Empire 2, or at LEAST a completely fixed and expanded Empire remastered.

  • @QueenMooSuko
    @QueenMooSuko2 жыл бұрын

    This will always be my favorite Total War game. The economy aspects, population actually mattering towards the growth of your regions (even if only to a point, the town/village turning into cities system, which you can then develop according to your needs is really cool) this was always so engaging... rushing the full development potential of my regions was always my favorite way to play this game. Having multiple schools to research more than one thing and not being stuck to a single research choice is something I miss greatly. Economic growth actually existing in this game (it was last in shogun 2) is something else I wish Total War didn't forsake. The idea of tax having an impact on population growth, emigration to colonies, and the overall wealth of your population (immediate VS long term gains) instead of tax ONLY being about public order and raw income from static sources and nothing else, was such a lovely aspect of this game. If this game ever saw a remaster, a genuine remaster that refined what was attempted here, got the same polish its spiritual successor Napoleon got, and expanded on the depth of the theaters, I think it could easily become the most celebrated total war game.

  • @shammy8703

    @shammy8703

    8 ай бұрын

    I am going to throw a microwave at your chest!

  • @akrav1983
    @akrav19832 жыл бұрын

    Had a lot of fun with Empire back in the day. I remember capturing the entire map as Prussia. Having the Prussian life guards versus the Indian elephants was awesome. I sure hope that CA brings back the naval battles in their next historical title.

  • @Kodoschannel1

    @Kodoschannel1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would play Poland all the time and smh the Prussians gave me the worst time lol

  • @Zaubernudel

    @Zaubernudel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, i did the same in my first game

  • @MrNebelschatten

    @MrNebelschatten

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kodoschannel1 Thats historically accurate lol

  • @HandleMyBallsYouTube

    @HandleMyBallsYouTube

    2 жыл бұрын

    >I surely hope that CA brings back ________ in their next historical title (assuming there is any at this point) Look, as much I would LOVE to have hope for the future of TW, if you've ever wondered why year after year they come over to drop a turd in front of you and then saunter off to make the next Warhammer TW? It's because you keep having faith in them. Understand this: the devs who made your favourite TW probably moved on years ago, hoping for that same passion from today's CA is pretty pointless. Same goes for most of the big names in gaming, the makeup of these studios change, the publishers change, the deals change, the priorities change.

  • @krankyboi4484

    @krankyboi4484

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HandleMyBallsKZread no, don't say that... please T_T

  • @_Azurael_
    @_Azurael_2 жыл бұрын

    Empire total war with the full world map, starting in EU IV start date, with colonization and exploration mechanics, tech similiar to Empire (with gradual improvements to army, economy and navy), and a deep enfâsis on trade routes and rare resources for economy (as it was irl), and thus making the navy the most important asset in the game. The small towns are actually an important part of Empire, think their importance should be even bigger, so protecting them would be essencial. Think this is my perfect Total war. Obviously, good graphics, no bugs, decent balance, etc, are a must.

  • @legendrogue237

    @legendrogue237

    2 жыл бұрын

    To compensate for the Ai they could set certain actions or play styles for each faction rather than give them cheats or the standard ai behaviour of every faction.

  • @_Azurael_

    @_Azurael_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@legendrogue237 just give the AI historical objetives. Portugal wants to explore the sea and get to India, the brits and France are rivals, ottoman want to expand, etc...

  • @legendrogue237

    @legendrogue237

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@_Azurael_ Exactly , they could also add indepth historical and ahistorical events or the player's decisions which might as well heavily impact a faction's playstyle. Proxy wars could be an interesting mechanic whilst there should be more indepth puppet/vassal mechanics. To add to it a Political system could be implemented to influence policies , economy military and colonies . The possibilities for content are endless .

  • @Vee_9001

    @Vee_9001

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think starting in 1444 and having the whole world is too ambitious. I think even in something as expansive as Empire needs a tighter focus than what can be achieved in a pdx title. Imo I think a province system like what we saw in later total war games would honestly not be that bad of an addition in Empire. The trick imo is tying it into population, perhaps by the province population allowing the city growth, which can allow for more units to be trained in a turn or raising the cap for training elite units. I do think you’re absolutely correct that trade has to be center in Empire. As is there just isn’t enough focus on it, compared to war. I also think diplomacy should be a bigger part of the game. Idk what to do abt the former, but for the latter I think it might be good to have ‘coalitions’ temporary alliances that allow minor actors to fight among themselves, but if any larger faction comes in they all defend. I think also revamping vassals might be good, having it so that you can force a faction to be your vassal after the war, reducing your threat in exchange for not outright annexing, and perhaps occupation costs and differences in culture can be increased as well. Vassals can attempt to be rebellious depending on their economics, military score, how harsh you choose to be as their ruler, and distance. Maybe there could also be ‘sponsors,’ where a major nation can choose to secretly agree to fight for a rebellious Vassal. There could also be an event for having them, Austria for example might be able to form Germany by conquering or vassalizing all of the German states.

  • @_Azurael_

    @_Azurael_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Vee_9001 cannot agree with "too ambitious". IF they can make the Warhammer map, they can make the whole world. They need to be ambitious or they will start to lose the historical audience for good.

  • @NapoleonBonaparde
    @NapoleonBonaparde2 жыл бұрын

    1700s warfare is the perfect setting for a total war game, they should make a Empire 2

  • @irgendeinname9256

    @irgendeinname9256

    Жыл бұрын

    As Napoleon your opinion on that is probably kinda biased

  • @BetaProtogen

    @BetaProtogen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@irgendeinname9256 as a random furry on the internet I can vouch for napoleon

  • @Andrewbaysura1

    @Andrewbaysura1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@irgendeinname9256 but it is true, something about thousands of soldiers lining up only to be brutally murdered by artillery or a Calvert charge or a volley of fire is so much more interesting than thousands of dudes bunched up slaughtering each other in every battle.

  • @irgendeinname9256

    @irgendeinname9256

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Andrewbaysura1 i like that era too. But I also think what's much more important than the setting is how they implement. I hear most people say that they want an empire 2, a medieval 3 or a pike and shot total war but tbh any setting could be a really great or bad total war so I don't really care about that.

  • @Andrewbaysura1

    @Andrewbaysura1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@irgendeinname9256 hopefully if they do a TWE 2 then... Hopefully they will have learned from their mistakes and do better.

  • @todalio9238
    @todalio92382 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you mentionned the forts battle. I was able to tolerate the bugs, the clunky pathfinding, the incompetent AI, but the constant forts battle ruined my spirit. Some of the small town settlements with no walls, though, were some of the most fun maps I've played. Put 2-3 units in buildings, guard the most important streets, avoid the arty with the available map items ... Empire is in my top 3 TW games where I had most fully finished campaigns. Playing as the Indians rising up, the brits going full America, France dominating western Europe , Ottomans going for a new golden age or Russia soloing the world. Had a lot of fun.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear :) and yea those fort battles… soul crushing

  • @mazariamonti

    @mazariamonti

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know they're bad when you prefer to fight outside the fort

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndysTake It's funny, because my first playthrough as Great Britain, I played mostly in the New World, and I didn't fight many fort battles. :D

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    I never upgraded my forts as that'll put parts of it Outside the spawn zone which was absolutely dumb beyond reason, Attacking forts always has been hilarious just attack the corner with arty especially howitzers and just see the enemy melt under quicklime, Though my best battles have been field battles both in America and India, trying desperately to break the native horde before it inevitably grinds my army down has led to awesome pitched battles where I needed to wheel forces, regroup and refocus Honestly if they're gonna do a 2 basically just remaster it and just add the Love and care it needed to actually tip over into greatness that it deserves

  • @JG-id5vi

    @JG-id5vi

    Жыл бұрын

    Best campaign hands down. The battle AI was soooo frustrating especially with forts. Even if the ai stayed in a static line without maneuvering very much it would have handled battles 1000 times better. Instead they would charge Melee and 2 centimeters away from your line they turn and run away and then turn and run back.

  • @redacted5052
    @redacted50522 жыл бұрын

    Empire was close to greatnesses, but it was just too unfinished and the mechanics needed way more polish. Still a solid game.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @Andrewbaysura1

    @Andrewbaysura1

    Жыл бұрын

    And my god the muskets... Sounded worse than horrible!

  • @xxxphilippxxx
    @xxxphilippxxx2 жыл бұрын

    I loved the game. The biggest problem I have is the lack of provinces. I mean, take Paris and pouf no more France. It's a bit ridiculous. Also, all European armies should start with bayonets (Most armies did not have pikes anymore in 1700)...And different types of firings would have been interesting (for all units).

  • @waltonsmith7210

    @waltonsmith7210

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, a sequel with a lot more details like that added like that would be phenomenal. There's so much potential with the era and the base formula

  • @jaykilbourne1110

    @jaykilbourne1110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, thats how I felt playing as Russia. Muscovy should have been three provinces. Novgorod, Smolensk, and Moscow. All as multi-slot cities to reflect that it was Russia's economic heartland. Also would have liked to see proper representation of what would later be Ukraine, which was the Zaporizhian Sech a puppet of Russia at the time.

  • @khronostheavenger8923

    @khronostheavenger8923

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think a lack of pikes is the best idea. Carl XII of Sweden was known for performing decisive charges with his line infantry (armed with swords) and pike formations. Pikes were definitely getting outdated, but the 1600s were dominated by them, even up into the 1710s. So it should be fine early game in the same way it's fine to have peasants early game in Medieval TW.

  • @xxxphilippxxx

    @xxxphilippxxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@khronostheavenger8923 You're right, in Eastern Europe pikes where still widely used, notably also because of the heavy use of cavalry (notably by the Poles). But the French, British, Spanish, Austrian and other smaller German states armies had all outdated them by 1700 (1703 for the French officially). Men all had flintlock muskets and at least plug bayonets (even though in theory some wished to see the pike return). There were no pikes in the War of Spanish Succession, but indeed there were some in the Great Northern War. It's just that the way they implemented pikemen, they are truly useless.

  • @nexus6755

    @nexus6755

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently, the reason for the pikemen being in the game is because it was the game was supposed to start in 1680

  • @lucasjleandro
    @lucasjleandro2 жыл бұрын

    Empire was my first Total War. More than 400 hours in steam. That one deserves a Empire 2. With countries splited into provinces, political mechanics, more units by countries, missions, chapters and Campaigns like 7 Years War, French Revolution, cities sieges remodelled

  • @Antaragni2012
    @Antaragni20122 жыл бұрын

    Well, the fact that we are here talking about TW historical games from 2007 is a sign that the developers are focusing too much in fantasy and leaving us without options. So let's talk about MODs for all these good old TW historical games! I am ok with that.

  • @caballeroquimera2501

    @caballeroquimera2501

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mods are one of our only hopes right now, because CA would rather make Troy 2 than Medieval 3, Empire 2 or any historical game.

  • @gerardotejada2531

    @gerardotejada2531

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caballeroquimera2501 more like three kingdoms 2. Troy didnt sell, and Its not played. Saga games have been a failure.

  • @darken2417

    @darken2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    My favorite mod for Medieval II has to be the Elder Scrolls mod. Its shockingly good.

  • @legiohysterius4624

    @legiohysterius4624

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@darken2417 what's your favorite faction?

  • @darken2417

    @darken2417

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@legiohysterius4624 Empire. They can expand in any direction and have access to many unique troops both by default and due to their proximity to special locations like the Dawnguard fortress. And they can easily buy land from Skyrim and the Bretons. And they also have to protect their isolated fortress all the way in Vvardenfell.

  • @Knochentroke
    @Knochentroke2 жыл бұрын

    The nostalgia. My first Total War game and to this day my favorite. It has aged in some aspects like controls. What would I give for modern unit controls on the field. But the campaign map is still the best I played, with Shogun 2 getting a close second. The scale alone makes its title justice. You could feel that you are building an empire, having provinces on 3 different continents. Trade was really deep compared to others. You have to go out of Europe to get valuable goods and ship them back to your capital and then send them to your trading partners. Tech was also fun. Better trade? Get better ports and plantages buildings. Better armies? Get canister shot or line fire. And navel combat. So much time as a kid was simply watching these battles. Two lines sailing past each other and unloading hundreds of cannons in unison and even then you would not fully grasp the scale of this battles. A single ship could carry more cannons than most armies in that age. It offers just the feeling of building and commanding an Empire, something that has gotten lost today. I just don't like the focus on individual characters like in 3 Kingdoms. Sure, I like the story of them, and having named ones makes the game better, but the rest just got a bit forgotten. Units tide to them and only 6 units? Even with that, you could only have 1 or 2 armies at the beginning, denying the option of splitting most of the time. And having no growing economy just feels boring. In Empire, some techs gave you huge boosts in income, both in trade and industry. But I start rambling. Emipre is just unique in the series. It still has so much potential. Only thing that stops me sometimes are the controls and a bit the AI. And fort battles...

  • @vladimiralexanderlagos1477
    @vladimiralexanderlagos14772 жыл бұрын

    It is my most fondly beloved entry in the whole Total War series. It had its drawbacks, as pointed out in the video, but it had this feel of empire building like no other game in the series. It felt grand, ambitious, and the battles felt relevant and cinematic, even if they got buggy as hell every now and then. The idea of juggling between several war theatres also added so much opportunity cost and forced to make some heavy decisions because you simply could not dominate on all theatres in the early game. I really hope they release a sequel someday.

  • @rhyceg
    @rhyceg2 жыл бұрын

    I remember some of the cancelled features like the naval landings and where the ships were able to participate in a costal land battle. Features that eventually made it into Rome 2. But they would have just been so incredible given the period. I really hope for a Total War: Empire 2 at some point.

  • @grantmurphy7965
    @grantmurphy79652 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the battles on Empire, the pacing was perfect, the battlefield would shift, you could scan over the map after the battle and actually tell what happened. It told a story in a way.

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    I certainly remember battles I just looked at the map and just felt horrified by the sight of it, especially fighting the natives would lead to maps where there was just piles of death where brutal clashes happened, Or the sieges where the AI just couldn't understand that it could never win as I just kept pouring quicklime unto them, a few thousand soldiers crammed together without any chance to do anything but fall, clean victories but never ones I enjoyed due to that

  • @Aahe42
    @Aahe422 жыл бұрын

    Empire is so good with mods, I have been playing it a lot lately and have grown to love it even more despite its flaws.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can relate!

  • @stoutyyyy

    @stoutyyyy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, mods really iron out a lot of the flaws

  • @jaywerner8415
    @jaywerner84152 жыл бұрын

    Ya know, i would still love to know whos bright idea it was to make "follow up games" for total war, cus just imagine if they spent all the time and money making the "main game" grate and just taking on the "follow up game" as DLC or and expansion like FoTS was. The improvements over Empire in Napoleon are obvious (ships being able to repair in battle for example), how hard can that POSSIBLY BE?! Empire still has the best TECH PROGRESSION of any total war to date, its not about unlocking better stuff and small bonuses its about upgrading your existing troops and getting them more tools (although as you progress you do get more troops and better troops, BUT most of them are limited in number) and the "province capital" and smaller cities that you can specialize i feel had alot of potential, certainly more so then the modern building system. (why is France only once city? it should be 4 or 5 at least) Empires only real downside is the battlefield AI, which is sad cus empire also has alot of interesting little features like garrisoning buildings for cover or using walls for cover. Not to mention certain units have access to certain fortifications when defending (light infantry are the only ones that can lay mines), not to mention all the units have at least SOME purpose.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know… to all of this. I think the decentralized provincial system is great, but NEEDS to have many more cities and much more complex ones. The way it is in the later games.. just not fun at all compared to the Empire system.

  • @jaywerner8415

    @jaywerner8415

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndysTake I suspect they are STILL using it to this day cus it cuts down on "clutter" on the campaign map so they can CRAMP the Cities so close to each other for this "province/reigon" system they have now, and so the AI only has to take cities and doesn't just go around raiding the countryside cus it feels it cant take the city. (thats is technically a smart move but ultimately its just super annoying) Seriously EVERY "region" is like the size of Westphalia or those other small german states these days and RARELY much bigger. The easiest "compromise" between the 2 systems i can come up with is you have a Central city with multiple slots, and you have 3 "towns" (including ports) that you can specialize in a few different ways. They KINDA did this in Thrones but....its sucked cus its just Match the colors for bonuses.

  • @JarthenGreenmeadow

    @JarthenGreenmeadow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndysTake I hate that you can only recruit from a general. It makes supply lines pretty much worthless. In Empire I follow my main army with a half stack of infantry exclusively to reinforce damaged units after a fight. Also the ability to detach cavalry and have them scout/raid. Really important aspect that just disappears when you can only have troops recruited at a general. The province system is just bad. Its so much worse than Medieval 2 or Empire. Growth.... just.... growth. Worst mechanic ever.

  • @severanfenrir4051
    @severanfenrir40512 жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes, and yes. The only thing that would have made it better is fort engagement defenders actually being able to fire muskets and cannons properly at enemies advancing. Or large army engagements when you have two or three armies around and enemy one and you can bring your full force to bear.

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    It probably would've worked better if they used the Garrison building feature on the Walls, so it would've actually known men where using that section and made using the cannons easier instead of the horrible way you always had to fiddle with it to finally work

  • @willholmes8295
    @willholmes82957 ай бұрын

    If they made a 2nd empire game with the stuff they have learned in the war hammer and mini games, it would have the chance to be one of the best strategy games of all time.

  • @davidcolborne9468
    @davidcolborne94682 жыл бұрын

    Still have a campaign every year or two, so much you can do in this game. My favourite was playing as Austria and using the Windbaersch Jaegers (or similar name). Could obliterate entire armies from some factions with just two units

  • @gerardotejada2531
    @gerardotejada25312 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE Napoleon and Shogun 2. To the point they are my absolute favourite historical games. Gunpowder battles are really amazing in Total War.

  • @guigoufred1

    @guigoufred1

    7 ай бұрын

    Napoleon is the best historical title, far ahead of Empire

  • @jonsmitt9769
    @jonsmitt976910 ай бұрын

    I wish we had a shogun2 style gameplay on the empire map. Tech allows you to build gun batteries for forts, ports and other map chokepoints. Have naval/fort battles. Like realm divide discourages early game expansion, have diplomacy actually matter as territorial expansion scares AI into forming alliances, fortifying and attacking. Generals have trainable abilities. Rare trade resources can be obtained by tech/diplomacy achievements. Compete for trade deals. Late game trains/merchant shipping allows rapid auto transport of armies. Tech revolutionizes battlefield with Gatling guns prompting trenches. Howitzers bring the evolution of star forts into bunkers. Percussion shells demanding ironclad ships requiring coal depots.

  • @six2make4
    @six2make42 жыл бұрын

    I just remember beating basically the entire game with line infantry and a couple of cannons.

  • @jaywerner8415

    @jaywerner8415

    2 жыл бұрын

    That DOES work.

  • @jaykilbourne1110

    @jaykilbourne1110

    2 жыл бұрын

    *cough* Napoleon *cough* 'Cuse me, had to cough.

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    Cannons, howitzers and line infantry to guard them, my standard line-up 2 cannons 3-5 howitzers, 2 charge cav, 2 melee cav, and the rest infantry, Cav doesn't always shine, but they can be amazing when put in the right place at the right time, as it gives you a lot of flexibility especially combining the Shattering effect of lancers followed up by melee cav as they've got no time to recover from the charge

  • @not-a-theist8251
    @not-a-theist82512 жыл бұрын

    I love the decentralized provinces of napoleon and empire. So emersive

  • @richardhogle4233
    @richardhogle42332 жыл бұрын

    I'm 25 just got a PC this year and this was my first total war....it quickly became a top 3 all time game for me and I have nearly 200 hours in it in under 8 months

  • @edwardo8404
    @edwardo84042 жыл бұрын

    YES IT IS, because you can the ambition for this game is so far ahead of their technical capabilities, so even if players hate it because of bugs, there are some who saw past the bugs and seen the diamond that is empire total war

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    With Empire more than any other I'd just say remaster it, fix the problems don't touch Anything else except maybe the province system and you've got a solid title, 64 bit architecture and a functional AI would already be most of the problems I've encountered solved as it always runs like a hog in a tub of lard

  • @clausbohm9807
    @clausbohm9807 Жыл бұрын

    Just discovered ETW and loving every minute of it, loaded a lot of vanilla mods that polish the portraits/maps/etc and even open the factions to play. You can even play the pirates. Agree with the video!

  • @Kuzyn
    @Kuzyn8 ай бұрын

    You could also mention that campaign map was supposed to be much bigger. But sadly files that confirm that are gone or at least I cant find it. There were screenshots of the map from some beta versions.

  • @ronduptor
    @ronduptor2 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the game. Definitely not my favourite, but good amounts of fun were had. The soundtrack tho, I think is the best of the whole series. Melancholic, era fitting, "remixes" of famous pieces. It's tied on 1st place with Rome TW in my opinion. Still got chills when I hear the main theme, or one of the loading screens. Thanks for the video

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Lionel :) I think the music is nice as well, I just wanted a bit more and present tracks. Partially why I prefer the OST in Napoleon, but empire has some very nice tracks as well!

  • @harrisoncurtis204
    @harrisoncurtis2042 жыл бұрын

    I never understood a lot of the hate Empire got, I thought it was the best campaign map by far. The fact there are strategic locations located on the map like resources and forts which can be occupied or raided makes the world so much more interesting and alive. You actually want to send small armies and units to keep these minor settlements protected from roaming bands of native raiders, etc.. Only thing it was missing is combined naval/land invasion battles!

  • @stevewalsh3001
    @stevewalsh30012 жыл бұрын

    I have to try some of these mods. Empire with Napoleon's polish sounds like an instant classic.

  • @nyxknight7555
    @nyxknight75552 жыл бұрын

    This is my second favorite behind Rome and the one I want the most remade or a second one bigger battles bigger worlds naval battles preferably campaign map character interactions maybe multi tier battles with a positioning, skirmish, main battle, and rearguard fazes with many more units and armies on the field at the same time also a much better ai is a must for the love of good more more death blobs? Please?

  • @mcgee227
    @mcgee2272 жыл бұрын

    Ive played Total War sense it started. Empire is still my favorite. The new ones are far to complicated.

  • @Brickgamerr
    @Brickgamerr2 жыл бұрын

    I love empire and I'm exited to see if you continue to Norway series

  • @gmodrules123456789
    @gmodrules1234567892 жыл бұрын

    The thing I liked was that it’s really easy to just “get in to”. You start with a relatively sizable amount of territory and military, so you can go and have big battles pretty quickly.

  • @CDNShuffle
    @CDNShuffle2 жыл бұрын

    im playing empires total war currently and having a blast

  • @Planewalker1999
    @Planewalker19992 жыл бұрын

    I like how much of the technology actually matters in this game. More modern ones have a ton of basic “+5% stat boosts” and other boring stuff

  • @Bojanglesz89
    @Bojanglesz892 жыл бұрын

    I watched the video until the end and hearing the music I remembered that they did not bring Jeff van Dyck back to do the soundtrack for Empire. This was also a big mistake! I like Empire for the reasons you mention, but there were indeed a lot of downsides too. CA should watch this video and make a superior sequel!

  • @diego5079
    @diego50792 жыл бұрын

    I've been playing shogun and fall of the samurai and empire seemed like a nice option to play next, this video is reassuring. Still, I haven't found it on sale yet...

  • @Pug46YT
    @Pug46YT2 жыл бұрын

    Total war games deserve more attention then they get

  • @tiborcsendes5269

    @tiborcsendes5269

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least a few of them.

  • @Pug46YT

    @Pug46YT

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tiborcsendes5269 true

  • @johnny1882
    @johnny1882 Жыл бұрын

    Question : are there no fifers in this mod? like in vanilla? You know, the guy near the drummer with the flute playing marching songs. I made a drummer band , they have an fifer animation but no sound of it, only drums

  • @noconnection1839
    @noconnection183910 ай бұрын

    Loved the melee combat animations. So many different movements going off at once.

  • @marekkos3513
    @marekkos35132 жыл бұрын

    Shogun 2 !!! Thank you and have a nice day

  • @kingofmadness6834
    @kingofmadness68342 жыл бұрын

    I would say a perfect total war would be empire and napoleon mixed with some ai improvements

  • @captainnyet9855

    @captainnyet9855

    2 жыл бұрын

    CA should have made that and called it Empire.

  • @gilangsuryadharma1295
    @gilangsuryadharma1295 Жыл бұрын

    I remembered when it first come out, the naval mechanic and gameplay was remarkable.

  • @ThePapo1980
    @ThePapo19802 жыл бұрын

    Rome was my first TW, but Empires complete world, sea battles and history drew me in even more. Can’t wait, and hope beyond hope we get an ETW2 or NTW2

  • @CallofPlastic
    @CallofPlastic2 жыл бұрын

    This was my first Total War game. At the time I was seeking an RTS, and was interested in the US Revolutionary war campaign, and gave it a try. I loved it and would eventually go on to log 1500 hours in game. Together with George Washington, me and Mel Gibson pushed back against British colonialism and carved out our own independent nation. The Darth Mod, in my opinion, made it even better, with bigger battles. The shipping routes added strategic depth to the game, as you could disrupt enemy trade. During one campaign, I realized that the pirates in the Caribbean were actually more beneficial to be left alone to harass my rivals, than to be invaded. Besides America, my favorite faction to play as during the long campaign were the Prussians. Balancing relationships between the protestant north and catholic south, while trying to reunite the Prussian empire was a challenge and enormously fun. My only wish would be that the entire world was included, besides just trade ports. Empire was the easiest Total War game for me to play and understand - it was much more tactically satisfying and even when the odds are stacked against you, if you used the right combination of tactics, you could achieve victory. One example is that I had a small town come under siege by enemy calvary, and I remember taking the three groups of local townsmen, placing them behind a stone wall at the bottom of a hill. The enemy calvary began their charge and as they crested the hill, I had the townsmen place down spikes at the last second. A handful of the enemy cavalry were impelled, and it forced them to retreat and regroup. As they turned around the townsmen began firing from behind the stonewall, further dwindling the enemy's numbers, spurring a full retreat. There are so many more stories I could tell regarding Empire's tactical balance. If they make an Empire 2, I would love to see the entire world included.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loved this, thanks for sharing!

  • @gentlesirpancakebottoms6692
    @gentlesirpancakebottoms66922 жыл бұрын

    Empire was awesome yet at the same time disappointing mostly due to the poor AI both in battles and on the campaign map. Mods have done a lot to fix this but the game is too broken to truly be fixed. Of all the games that deserves a sequel or remake. Or just even a proper remaster, its this game. There is so much to this game. Almost too much, thats why it falls a bit flat and deserves a second chance. I want to love this game and it deserves to be the best TW ever.

  • @kennethcogdill3022
    @kennethcogdill30222 жыл бұрын

    I hope the next one has the whole world map.....i want all the native american tribes....south america ...africa...Australia....china and japan......playing as the zulus in south africa would be awesome

  • @JA-lr5ix
    @JA-lr5ix2 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see ypur opinion on Imperial Splendour- I’m going through it right now in ETW and having a good time!

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    What’s so special about it? ;)

  • @JA-lr5ix

    @JA-lr5ix

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndysTake its not as slow as darthmod fo thr battles- i hated the darthmod battles despite how historically accurate they tended to be. just so slow and boring and IS just seems t do a better job keeping the pace moving

  • @stevennicholas5472
    @stevennicholas5472 Жыл бұрын

    Being quite old now, i'd give up one of my testicles for a new release of Empire that amalgamated all the progress from the TW releases since E:TW. what they tried to accomplish back then, few companies have tried to replicate since. Empire is still the first TW i install after a machine rebuild; thanks to Darthmod, but now that TWII incorporates some of its features, i'lll probably just go with that. EDIT: Excellent video, by the way, summed up my feelings perfectly; it has so much to offer. If only....

  • @Gusty.
    @Gusty.2 жыл бұрын

    If they were to make empire 2 I would love to see some of the features from ck3 go into it as I feel the mix between TW and CK would prob be one of the best strategy games out there.

  • @devonnicklaus3344
    @devonnicklaus33442 жыл бұрын

    I still play napoleon and empire semi regularly. I hope there's a return to form soon.

  • @biggusballuz5405
    @biggusballuz54052 жыл бұрын

    ETW is my most played TW, despite RTW having a few hours more due to some modding attempts. I just wish each town/resource nodes were actual administrative subdivisions that are part of the larger province, still as per the ETW system instead of the R2TW one, while being able to be conquered and used by a faction individually (instead of just being damaged and garrisoned), while being reflected on the campaign map as well when taken over it. That in my opinion will really make the gameplay more interesting as factions will also fight for the towns instead of just the provincial capitals in order to gain a better strategical position or even just resources and really reflect the strategical environment of war ever since the dawn of wars. That is really my only wish for ETW, other than the usual more regions, more factions, global map etc etc. I really have no complaints, the AI is dumb but the whole mindset of line battles during then were pretty dumb too so there's that. I've also never experienced any of the bugs people complain about, besides the AI forming up for line battles outside of a fort during a defensive (on their side) fort battle. Though I would I wish that there was an easier way to achieve the different governmental types besides going through 2 civil wars to get the one you prefer and that there is a way to change the dynasty itself as well. I also feel that the lack of China is a disappointment, due the fact that the 1700s were a special period in near modern history for China. They are in a golden age, undisputedly the strongest faction and their military are in weird state where the advancements of gunpowder tech from the late Ming are still lingering around, but yet the archaic style of warfare is the one being forefront by the military, while under pressure from the Imperial court itself to keep up to date and actually incorporate/improve upon western gunpowder tech. In fact, the Qing military were very gunpowder centric during the second half of 1700s onwards, up to half of the troops actually fought in musket lines with artillery support. This puts it in a unique position to allow the player to take it down a path of technological advance it never did while at the same time not making the tech tree/troops overpowered against other factions. Other than that I agree with your comments on the governmental/cabinet system, could be more engaging rather than being so simplistic. Maybe a slot for faction unique buildings in cities would be more fun plus having 1-2 more slots for smaller provincial capitals. More events with impact would be fun. But if I have to choose a favourite TW? It is definitely ETW, even in vanilla.

  • @Abbittibbi
    @Abbittibbi Жыл бұрын

    Awesome game: just won a world domination with Great Britain just today(december 2022), thanks for this publication. One of the best feature, aside the map, is the unlimited armies and general, which are ranking up not only in combat, but as well as on map(with followers and other means). The tech tree is long, well done and hard all at the same time. Ships are awesome looking, but the naval battle are very hard, so much so I all automated them, since my chance to win are much higher. As for land battle, the only down side are the terrain and building(especially forts), I've become unbeatable(VS AI that is). The worse downside is that you cannot play minors, and change of government are not obvious.

  • @y.r._
    @y.r._ Жыл бұрын

    I'm rooting so hard for Empire 2 one day. Hopefully it'll include the 1600s as well as China and Japan. That would be beyond awesome.

  • @multigamer4385
    @multigamer4385 Жыл бұрын

    I just finished the 3rd part of road to independence and i had a blast! I really miss these old school games they just feel diff

  • @ix_aspect_xi8734
    @ix_aspect_xi87342 жыл бұрын

    Empire is the ONLY total war game that hasnt had a sequel, and i think its because they are sitting on it to make something HUGE. The warhammer series showed us they can truly make MASSIVE maps with hundreds of provinces. I believe warhammer 2 eye of the vortex had over 300 provinces. Now that theyve finished their warhammer trilogy, my hopes are VERY high that they push out an empire 2.

  • @AggelosGamer-zl2ht
    @AggelosGamer-zl2htАй бұрын

    With RTX 3060 and ryzen 5600x and 16ram, i have some stutters some times when i move the world map. Is this natural or something else? Thank you!

  • @ivanspasov9831
    @ivanspasov9831 Жыл бұрын

    2022 and i still enjoy playing the game plus napoleon total war, i have so much good memories to it, and still feels like a perfect total war game.

  • @liammorris1018
    @liammorris1018 Жыл бұрын

    It's mad i've owned empire since release but never actually played it, but recently i've been playing older total war games like rome 2, shogun 2 etc as warhammer has gotten a bit stale. Decided to launch empire for the first time after watching this video and actually sink some hours in. It's such a great game, the map is amazing and how you interact making farms and seeing them pop up, the ship battles are amazing, War is amazing especially as Britain since the Ai never rally invades you which works really well since the diplomacy from my point of view leaves much to be desired so when everyone declares war on you the only thing you should see is £ signs by sending your ships to chain shot enemy fleets and profit.

  • @gerardotejada2531
    @gerardotejada25312 жыл бұрын

    Would love Creative Assembly to look at Europa Universalis 4 for the next Empire 2.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @enoughrope1638
    @enoughrope163810 ай бұрын

    Hotseat feature was actually added as a limited time beta test iirc.

  • @gabrielcostin8867
    @gabrielcostin8867 Жыл бұрын

    Empire Total war and Napoleon total war are my favorite strategy games. They are so different than the other total war games and other strategy games but still looks like total war is going on a different path. I hope so much anothe game like that will launch

  • @ACM1PT95
    @ACM1PT952 жыл бұрын

    Empire was my first total war game ever. I spent long hours on this game but I have to say that the only reason why this game is still playable to me is because of the mods. In my opinion the mods saved this game

  • @georgeflorea9780
    @georgeflorea97802 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t played it but I am thinking on actually giving the game a chance with probably the empire 2 mod.

  • @ciara8811
    @ciara88112 жыл бұрын

    I think this video got thrown at me because of my search history lately but I've actually been playing a TON of this game again. Its one of my favourite in the series but it always makes me a little sad when I play it because for as much as I love it I can't help but look at all the squandered potential here and great features that have since not come back in newer titles.

  • @ottson
    @ottson Жыл бұрын

    On my deathbed, this will probably be my favorite game ever. It's got some rough edges, but it's beautiful and ambitious

  • @Da__goat
    @Da__goat3 ай бұрын

    Would love to see the game get a sequel that expands and builds on its original framework-time period from 1650-1800, the golden age of sail. More regions, reworked game engine, new models. Molders have kept the game alive and some of them are absolutely epic like PuA, which has been under development meant for 10 years

  • @shorewall
    @shorewall2 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to get into Empire for so long, but I was worried that it would be too different. I finally played it, and loved it. I love setting up gunlines and blasting away the enemy, then charging as needed to break them. And I LOVE naval battles. I will sometimes auto resolve land battles, but I will always play out naval battles, even just to run down one trade ship. It is so much fun. I would buy a game just for Empire's naval battles. And I love how the musketeers reload, and fire by rank. It feels real, unlike Warhammer total war and their gunlines. I like fantasy total war, but I NEED more good historical total wars! You could tell they cared about simulating reality in Empire.

  • @napoleonbonaparte7692
    @napoleonbonaparte7692 Жыл бұрын

    Playing empire on hard difficulty on Darthmod is the best total war game experience I've had,(no forts). Also that total war attilia mod kingdoms is probably my second best

  • @HumanTouchArt
    @HumanTouchArt Жыл бұрын

    I use to hate empire total war when I first got it but 12 years later it became one of my favorite total war games of all time ...causd i finally learned how machanics and everything works and has some very fun mechanics :)

  • @dudeinadoughboy4327
    @dudeinadoughboy43272 жыл бұрын

    I really loved the nation, or rather....EMPIRE.... building in Empire. All the different countries, diplomacy and trade options, the ability to go and make colonies for economic or military purposes... it was really cool! I missed that aspect in Napoleon. I've found that for a large world campaign I'll go for Empire, but if I want some cool fights/combat sessions, I'll go to Napoleon

  • @thewingedhussar4188
    @thewingedhussar41882 жыл бұрын

    I feel they really should do a empire total war 2 They did all the other games, might as well update this one. Otherwise I would LOVE to see a total war set during the Bronze age (I mean real bronze age, not troy/fantasy). Where maybe the sea peoples are a secret hidden boss that emerges when enough rebels gather together. An you have two possible tech paths you can go down. One that is better suited for fighting the sea peoples and another that fights the other factions. All while dealing with environment issues. Another good idea is South Africa, where we could play different tribes/peoples. With the added bonus of having the Boers and British being major threats to deal with. In a real way it be like Shogun 2 : Fall of the Samurai. Third possible good idea is having a game take place In india/South East assia during some point in time. Imagine the different types of warriors you can play around with. Fourth idea would certainly be a steam punk total war game set in Ancient Rome. Or at least a mod that would add steam power as part of the tech tree.

  • @Voron_Aggrav

    @Voron_Aggrav

    Жыл бұрын

    Empire and Napoleon both got steam power, at least the Darthmod versions But yeah I'd love a Steampunk mod based on like the Empire/Napoleon style of combat

  • @thewingedhussar4188

    @thewingedhussar4188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Voron_Aggrav What about a steam punk Rome?

  • @patriciusvunkempen102
    @patriciusvunkempen1022 жыл бұрын

    damn i would love a shogunlike holy roman empire system ,maybe where an alternative route would have been to become the leading force of the empire. and basicly enforce universal Kaisertum

  • @M4A1BestGirl
    @M4A1BestGirl Жыл бұрын

    This game was an underrated masterpiece. Even though it had several bugs/glitches, including dumb enemy AI thst would sometimes hide behind a wall, retreat for no reason, get stuck because of the terrain, not attack, or just completely disappear, this game was ahead of its time and was actually very educational.

  • @mohamedaboelenein7727
    @mohamedaboelenein77272 жыл бұрын

    Also Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai as well. Maybe if they reduced the accuracy of the infantry rifles, it would have been better, but the campaign dynamics was the best imo.

  • @charlesc2095
    @charlesc20957 ай бұрын

    Ive always wanted to try to get into this game but the UI did NOT age well. The fonts give me a huge headache as they look smudged and blurry. Im on a Mac and I dont think modding the UI is not possible

  • @kaisercorn4857
    @kaisercorn48572 жыл бұрын

    One thing that I believe you missed. It was the first total war with modern camera controls. You didn't have to put up with the crappy controls from Medieval 2 or Rome anymore.

  • @ASwagPecan
    @ASwagPecan2 жыл бұрын

    love your total war vids, wish they were on switch

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, mate, appreciate it :)

  • @Dayrahl
    @Dayrahl2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say yes. The single most ambitious total war ever made, slightly to ambitious but man the mods make it hold up. I've spent at least 5000 hrs in it

  • @bencab8732

    @bencab8732

    11 ай бұрын

    Which mods would you recommend? Thanks!

  • @Koelebig
    @Koelebig2 жыл бұрын

    Empire Total War was a nice proof of concept. It needed much more of everything. Loved the naval battles in this one, but overall really underwhelming. Also, do I need to remind people of France - the big power of the day - that you can whipe off the map in just 2 battles? And the map was huge in scale, but small in detail: the home region of United Province, was much too small to be able to do anything with it defensively. Again, a nice proof of concept.

  • @StenWasTaken
    @StenWasTaken Жыл бұрын

    Empire is my favorite total war game and I still play it, I hope total war is gonna make another game like this one

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion788 ай бұрын

    The only time a government/head of state ever affected my campaign when it wasn't my faction directly was I was fighting a war against, it was either Prussia or Austria, and I was crushing them and wanted peace to focus on other things, it was only when the old Queen died and a new king took over that they agreed to peace. so yes, an Empire 2 that made governments/monarchs more important would be great

  • @russko118
    @russko1182 жыл бұрын

    i started my TW carreer so young that i wasn't able to play medieval 2 without economic cheast (i did fight the battles thou) and empire wa my first TW that i played as it should be and i loved it. i think medieval 2, rome 2 and empire are the 3 TW with overwelming numer of hours compared to other TW i played

  • @regal163
    @regal163 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I agree, ETW is my favourite to, but it still has those bugs which CA never did fix, the dreaded slowdown of AI turns, the sudden crash to desktop for no apparent reason, it's a brilliant game, but on starting it you never know if you're going to make it to the end, roll on ETW 2.

  • @Arturrodeldziko
    @Arturrodeldziko2 жыл бұрын

    Empire TW with Darth Mod is something thats always installed on my PC! :)

  • @waltonsmith7210
    @waltonsmith72102 жыл бұрын

    I wish i could get any mods to work for this game. The only game I can figure out how to mod outside the steam workshop is Medieval 2. I managed to install Divide and Conquer, the English civil war as well as stainless steel. I also got Darthmod to work for Napoleon, but not Empire. Modding Empire is completely beyond me apparently:(

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Darthmod is easy enough to install! Are you sure you’re installing into the correct folders? And the patches etc?

  • @alexanderrahl7034
    @alexanderrahl70342 ай бұрын

    Empire was fantastic. The only true problem i have, is that in its old age, the bugs have festered. Sometimes its lighting issues, sometimes is horrendous battle-ruining pathing issues. Sometimes the battle AI gets wonky. But damn do i love it anyway

  • @vulcanjoe8258
    @vulcanjoe82582 жыл бұрын

    I remember when Empire TW was like on launch (pretty sure it was also the first TW Tittle launched on steam as well. Ran like total ass, the turn times were nearly 5+ mins even on a decent rig - but man I loved it. The other issue was the god awful a.i even now in 2022 but thankfully mods fix a lot of these issues.

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha agreed, can relate :)

  • @captainnyet9855

    @captainnyet9855

    2 жыл бұрын

    even with no mods ETW is completely fine, until you start a battle.

  • @ilhamismail2908
    @ilhamismail2908 Жыл бұрын

    Im still playing shogun 2 fall of the samurai, maybe this will be my next game

  • @mamchi
    @mamchi3 ай бұрын

    I am 40, I still play Empire Total War. I have experienced a lot of strategy games and I believe that Empire is one of the top top games. It is a shame that a renewed version or Empire 2 is not launched yet. I am ready to spend my money.

  • @sillygoose4356
    @sillygoose43562 жыл бұрын

    nice video!

  • @AndysTake

    @AndysTake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :D

  • @chris1117F
    @chris1117F2 ай бұрын

    I hope they make. Empire total 2 with more actual historical events, and more indepth campaign. Plus larger realitic armies than just cut down ti a thousand allowed in battle maps. Actual battles had larger forces than just held to a thousand,

  • @blasty137
    @blasty1372 жыл бұрын

    - Do you love or hate Empire Total War? - Yes.

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton2 жыл бұрын

    Was always my favourite game, despite the bugs. Navy battles, they were amazing. And in the latest games we don't even have them.

  • @Munky332
    @Munky3322 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see some sort of merge between Crusader Kings/Europa, Shogun 2, and Empire Total War.

  • @nicolasrenaud6875

    @nicolasrenaud6875

    2 жыл бұрын

    + Mount&Blade / Bannerlord ... There you get the perfect game

  • @SureSShuffle
    @SureSShuffle2 жыл бұрын

    So I remember when it came out, I wasn't a huge fan. It came out broken af and the AI/ player mechanics were nearly unplayable. By the time Napoleon came out though, it was a completely different game. Also hats off to the modding community, they have expanded and improved this game beyond belief.

  • @benjahildebrandt2001
    @benjahildebrandt20012 жыл бұрын

    I would love 2 play a total war empire with the map and many of the systems from ck3

  • @wiseguy3696
    @wiseguy36962 жыл бұрын

    The Empire 2 mod is a really great way to get back into Empire, which is already a great game.

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