When Nirvana rips you off

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We all know Nirvana, right? They brought alternative rock to the mainstream with their groundbreaking album "Nevermind" and the iconic single "Smells Like Teen Spirit." But what if I told you that Nirvana actually stole their sound from another band? In this video, we explore the untold story of the Pixies, the unsung heroes of alt rock who revolutionized the music industry. Discover how their extreme dynamics and raw intensity influenced not only Nirvana but also bands like Radiohead, The Smashing Pumpkins, and many more. Join me as I uncover the secrets behind Nirvana's sound and the band that paved the way for their success.
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Timestamps:
0:00 We all know Nirvana right?
1:01 Rock in the 80s
1:53 The Pixies?
4:17 How Extreme Dynamics caught on
7:45 What happened to the Pixies?
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  • @stonie3216
    @stonie321611 ай бұрын

    One of the best ways I’ve heard the Pixies described is ‘your favourite band’s favourite band’

  • @DeSlagen8

    @DeSlagen8

    11 ай бұрын

    my parents favourite band

  • @millennialanimal

    @millennialanimal

    11 ай бұрын

    They’re the MF DOOM of guitar music

  • @kve5520

    @kve5520

    11 ай бұрын

    that's the beatles, and the velvet underground

  • @millennialanimal

    @millennialanimal

    11 ай бұрын

    @@catdance7 genre 💀

  • @calicosky9863

    @calicosky9863

    11 ай бұрын

    Not really

  • @sicarus3572
    @sicarus357211 ай бұрын

    I hate when people say "stole" or "copied" it's just inspiration and every song takes something from another, it's the highest form of respect and shouldn't be looked down upon

  • @andycalifornia426

    @andycalifornia426

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly, especially when the band acknowledges the influence. The word "stealing" is very wrong there. It goes to show that the speaker has an irrational problem with Nirvana's success.

  • @frodiesel0

    @frodiesel0

    11 ай бұрын

    @@andycalifornia426Kurt himself had a problem with their success. I think the Pixies are great. Kurt blended so many different styles he created his own. Nirvarna is still my favorite cover band. “Bevis”

  • @westywest4480

    @westywest4480

    11 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah. amen

  • @andycalifornia426

    @andycalifornia426

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@frodiesel0 Kurt had a problem with his success for a completely different reason. The butt-hurt youtuber here has a problem with Nirvana's success because he's jealous that his favorite band that had some good albeit half-baked ideas didn't. Forward-thinking and whatever other attributes you want to ascribe to Pixies is apparently not enough for people to like it. Enough of this "they're too sophisticated for the masses". I like some of Pixies' songs, but how much of Surfer Rosa do you ACTUALLY like? On Doolittle, Frank chose to sabotage the band and cut all the good songs short, while keeping crap like "I Love You" long. And literally no one cares about the next two albums (I personally like a few songs from them) because no boundaries are being pushed there and nothing new is brought to the table. Pixies are a throwaway band for people who like art for the sake of pushing boundaries, not enjoying the art itself.

  • @craigcampbell1843

    @craigcampbell1843

    11 ай бұрын

    @@andycalifornia426 I agree for the most part. This video would have you believe that every band after the Pixies that got louder during the chorus on any of their songs was literally just ripping off the Pixies. Even TLC and Whitney Houston. Lol. Who hears a Celine Dion song and thinks, man I can’t believe she could rip off the Pixies like that? Just because the Pixies were your favorite band and you noticed that they used dynamics and talked about it doesn’t mean everyone after them that does that too is ripping them off. I learned about dynamics in band in elementary school. It’s a huge part of music. The Pixies were a fun band but they didn’t invent dynamics. Beethoven used dynamics. Were the Pixies ripping off Beethoven? It’s called music.

  • @HukkitukkiUK
    @HukkitukkiUK11 ай бұрын

    Nirvana always gave plenty of light to their influences, they helped lift many bands up.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Including us 😂

  • @Humblemumble7

    @Humblemumble7

    11 ай бұрын

    Like....who?

  • @Biloxata

    @Biloxata

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Humblemumble7daniel johnston, half japanese, beat happening, vaselines, fang, the wipers, meat puppets, raincoats, shonen knife, mudhoney, melvins, devo and even fucking leadbelly and william burroughs... nirvana continues to introduce them to new generations of fans.

  • @awarewolves1712

    @awarewolves1712

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Biloxata Nice. Saccharine Trust is a good one too.

  • @ForageGardener

    @ForageGardener

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Biloxata they didn't "uplift" Melvins. Was already successful and had already denied fame by refusing a record deal because they didn't like the terms and refuse to play arenas

  • @myless.5493
    @myless.549311 ай бұрын

    One thing about Nirvana is that while they were very inspired by The Pixies or other alternative bands like them, what made Nirvana stand out was their ability to craft brilliant melodies, which were very much inspired by The Beatles

  • @adamfindlay7091

    @adamfindlay7091

    11 ай бұрын

    Really? Why do some give me grief for being into the fab four? So old and not current. Well... thanks.

  • @isaacness2647

    @isaacness2647

    11 ай бұрын

    awesome melodies backed up by insane guitar distortion and feedback, inspired by sonic youth

  • @indiehifi

    @indiehifi

    11 ай бұрын

    @@adamfindlay7091Kurt was inspired by the beatles and black sabbath in the song "About a Girl"...

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    11 ай бұрын

    I’m a huge Beatles fan. I have never heard anything by Nirvana that made me go “oh that’s the Beatles influence.” To me it’s always been Kurt said it and people just repeat it.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @DarrienDane
    @DarrienDane11 ай бұрын

    pixies is always that band you imagine started later than they actually did. *how* are they an 80s band

  • @g-wiz2953

    @g-wiz2953

    11 ай бұрын

    Idk imo they have a much rougher sound that feels older than the more polished bands that came out after, who built upon what they did. And I mean, they are barely an 80s band anyways. Yeah i think they formed in 86 and there first 2 albums were released in 88 and 89, but by that logic Nirvana is also an 80s band since 'Bleach' came out in 89 and they apparently formed in 87. Classifying things by decades has always been dumb.

  • @gx1tar1er

    @gx1tar1er

    11 ай бұрын

    they were ahead of their time though. Just like The Velvet Underground in the 60's. It's funny that their music aged better than 95% of 80's glam/hair metal.

  • @adonaiyah2196

    @adonaiyah2196

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats the one thing i can take away from this video

  • @dim1669

    @dim1669

    11 ай бұрын

    and dinosaur jr

  • @jerimiahstephens8580

    @jerimiahstephens8580

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes and no. Most people only know them for one song which came out in 1986 i think? But when people think of nirvana the vast majority of those songs were released in 1989 and 1990. Just because the popular sound or the sound that has been labeled as the 1980s over time, doesn't sound like other music of the time doesn't mean it's out of place or necessarily ahead of its time

  • @NinjaMatt2201
    @NinjaMatt220111 ай бұрын

    I watched a documentary on their reunion. By the time they had their first reunion tour, they found they were selling quite a lot of tickets. There were several generations of fans in the crowd singing along. The way artists like Kurt Cobain were so vocal about stealing from the Pixies really paid off in the long run. I was really happy for them finally getting to experience that level of success.

  • @RandomButtonPusher

    @RandomButtonPusher

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly. When I saw the reformed band in Milwaukee, the crowd was big and ranged in age from about 10 to 75, most singing along, my wife, an original era fan, among them. And it was LOUD.

  • @westernhemlock

    @westernhemlock

    11 ай бұрын

    Nirvana was my gateway to the Pixies as a teenager. I’m forever grateful for that.

  • @dre6289

    @dre6289

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm 26 and I go to their shows every chance I get. And they're always packed with a good mix of ages. Nothing else like them

  • @kwizzeh

    @kwizzeh

    11 ай бұрын

    Saw them twice during their 2004 reunion tour and it exceeded my expectations. I clearly remember the crowd being a mix of young and old and at that time I was in my teens. The Pixies, Radiohead and Rage Against the Machine are the reasons I picked up an electric guitar and be in a couple of bands 😅

  • @dudeflynn2781

    @dudeflynn2781

    11 ай бұрын

    I can’t wait to see them in San Diego!!! Later this year

  • @ChicoCabra
    @ChicoCabra11 ай бұрын

    Joey Santiago: “A lot of other bands did the quiet/loud dynamic, too, so giving us all the credit is kinda silly. But we really exploited it. Also, we were heavily influenced by The Cars, and they chug a lot. When we discovered that chugging thing, it was like, ‘Holy fuck, this is really good.’ So you could really just chug it down then be quiet - and then just power in with another chord."

  • @rickchyczewski576

    @rickchyczewski576

    11 ай бұрын

    exactly. I am trying to remember who was the first. Zep made a career of slowly working a song into a frenzy. I could name bunches but many followed the over the hills and far away or stairway to heaven format. Slow and beautiful and then BAM, Plant screaming and Page slamming that guitar. This video is kind of silly.

  • @latentsea

    @latentsea

    11 ай бұрын

    Think it was my grandpas band that invented dynamics, the 1/4 tape from the 40’s proves it. Caveman, “hit it softer, Now loud!”

  • @JB-1138

    @JB-1138

    11 ай бұрын

    Seems like some credit should go to Iggy and the Stooges.

  • @randomdudelife

    @randomdudelife

    11 ай бұрын

    black sabbath - black sabbath is a classic in quiet/loud. i'm sure it was "invented" by some classical dude like wagner or something. piano/forte. it is silly to say it was the pixies. dinosaur jr and husker du did it before them

  • @ko-rp7ge

    @ko-rp7ge

    11 ай бұрын

    That's dope

  • @sofaking1627
    @sofaking162711 ай бұрын

    "good artists copy; great artists steal" - Me in 1997

  • @PixieMeat_444

    @PixieMeat_444

    11 ай бұрын

    Ima steal this quote, because this is awesome.

  • @gsly6081

    @gsly6081

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah you definitely stole that quote.

  • @sofaking1627

    @sofaking1627

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gsly6081 🖤

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    11 ай бұрын

    Okay Pablo Picasso.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    😅😅😅 hopefully we can all just do what we love

  • @erikbarrett85
    @erikbarrett8511 ай бұрын

    The amount of bands that had wild dynamics BEFORE the pixies is immensely large. They're definitely a band that made the soft verse\lntense chorus a huge point of the arrangement, but what even was all this lol

  • @Ntrinzc

    @Ntrinzc

    11 ай бұрын

    Ye they never listened to ramble on by Led Zeppelin lmao

  • @smithjedediah

    @smithjedediah

    11 ай бұрын

    A poorly researched video delivered confidentally by someone too young to understand context and the nuances of things from the era that can't be picked up on from Wikipedia and other people's videos (other people also too young to know about such things)

  • @therainman7777

    @therainman7777

    9 ай бұрын

    You guys have no idea what you’re talking about, yet are so convinced that you do.

  • @adamprice3466

    @adamprice3466

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Ntrinzc or Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd or Fade to Black

  • @kevinbrown1893
    @kevinbrown189311 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I remember hearing about this, because as everyone knows, the Pixies invented dynamics, chord progressions, music and, sound itself.

  • @Glixity

    @Glixity

    11 ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @KingofCrusher

    @KingofCrusher

    11 ай бұрын

    lol

  • @xxandrewwilsonxxable

    @xxandrewwilsonxxable

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes all the Russian / German CLASSICAL Composers in history owe everything to the Pixies. Especially the explosive Dynamics found in their music that they used back then before sound recording existed.

  • @robertd1046

    @robertd1046

    11 ай бұрын

    I hear they are collaborating on world peace next.

  • @strqrt70

    @strqrt70

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I’m glad someone saw the absurdity of this claim.

  • @stupidhipsterdoofus3278
    @stupidhipsterdoofus327811 ай бұрын

    The Pixies even managed to inspire Lennon back in 1968 when he wrote "I'm so tired" which really is amazing!!!

  • @dzonder1

    @dzonder1

    11 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @latentsea

    @latentsea

    11 ай бұрын

    Lennon inspired Bach, Not Just Johann but his uncle as well.

  • @AverageBeatlesFan

    @AverageBeatlesFan

    11 ай бұрын

    Woah, that's so sick dude!

  • @armondtanz

    @armondtanz

    11 ай бұрын

    Yea, theres prob a lot of beatles songs like that, yer blues, mother (his solo period), Also golden slumbers. This vid has some reach!

  • @avillianchillinskrillian

    @avillianchillinskrillian

    9 ай бұрын

    @@armondtanz ....but bands didn't credit the beatles for it though, they credited the Pixies. The Beatles are the most celebrated band of all time. If all these bands learned Dynamics from the Pixies then it's irrelevant who "did it first"

  • @erikbarrett85
    @erikbarrett8511 ай бұрын

    Bro Kurt must have said 400 times this they were basically a Pixies tribute band. But utilizing inspiration is not only fine, it's even more finer when you make a completely distinct sound 🤣🤣

  • @Hiajarock

    @Hiajarock

    7 ай бұрын

    The trouble was'nt Kurt.,but the media overhype of grunge

  • @edvinparmeza1298
    @edvinparmeza129811 ай бұрын

    Don't forget Killing Joke's song "Eighties", the melody of which was used in "Come As You Are"

  • @zoomer619

    @zoomer619

    11 ай бұрын

    The Damned’s Life Goes On....that too

  • @edvinparmeza1298

    @edvinparmeza1298

    11 ай бұрын

    @@zoomer619 yeah, that also, but Eighties is more relevant to Come as You Are

  • @gordonbennett7931

    @gordonbennett7931

    11 ай бұрын

    To the untrained ear they sound similar but in actual fact the riff from the song ''Eighties'' is not exactly the same as the riff from ''Come as you are''. Therefore, it's not accurate to say one was used in the other.

  • @thebeingbecoming3596

    @thebeingbecoming3596

    11 ай бұрын

    WRONG! It's not the melody, it's the riff that is similar. The melody (the vocal parts) are very different. Get a clue.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes that is the sound!

  • @CandGoods
    @CandGoods11 ай бұрын

    Y'know, the main Pixies albums that got talked about in this video were Surfer Rosa and Doolittle, with a very brief mention of Trompe Le Monde. That just reminds me that I actually particularly like their Bossanova album, "Velouria" absolutely slaps.

  • @kevinclarke9406

    @kevinclarke9406

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly this ❤

  • @NinjaMatt2201

    @NinjaMatt2201

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh, yeah. I remember Velouria getting decent radio play on alternative rock stations in the nineties. I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline, but I think the success of Canonball from Kim Deal's other band, the Breeders, helped out and gave Velouria a second wind of success, but I remember it doing pretty good. Great song.

  • @jonny26281

    @jonny26281

    11 ай бұрын

    @@NinjaMatt2201 cannonball came out 3 years after bossanova

  • @Birdsofthelou

    @Birdsofthelou

    11 ай бұрын

    Absolutely their best album

  • @Monticello19

    @Monticello19

    11 ай бұрын

    Surprisingly, Weezer did a solid cover of Velouria back in the day.

  • @Cyranek
    @Cyranek11 ай бұрын

    the ending of fight club started me on a long rock journey

  • @Scarlett_Azure

    @Scarlett_Azure

    11 ай бұрын

    seems like that was a strange point in your life

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah !! Forgot

  • @elcheekoful

    @elcheekoful

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah I 100% would have never heard of the Pixies if it not being for Fight Club and Nirvana.

  • @Megoodfilmguy
    @Megoodfilmguy11 ай бұрын

    It's interesting the Pixies get credit for this loud-quiet dynamic when you see it all throughout 50's music like My Boyfriend's Back or It's My Party.

  • @zoeherriot

    @zoeherriot

    11 ай бұрын

    @ghost mall Husker Du, which used the technique inspired the Pixies. They literally put an advert in the paper for a bassist "into Husker Du".

  • @badgasaurus4211

    @badgasaurus4211

    11 ай бұрын

    ⁠@ghost mall Boston did it in “More than a Feeling”; The Beatles did it in “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds”. It has always been experimented with in the past and so I’m not sure how much credit the Pixies should get.

  • @dwboston1

    @dwboston1

    11 ай бұрын

    Or Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You"

  • @evanjohnrobasci7356

    @evanjohnrobasci7356

    11 ай бұрын

    I don’t think any part of this video is arguing that they’re the first to do it in all of music history.

  • @mj.l

    @mj.l

    11 ай бұрын

    @@evanjohnrobasci7356this video makes a lot of silly unverified claims. like the spice girls being influenced by the pixies’ so-called “extreme dynamics” lol

  • @codyddd3634
    @codyddd363411 ай бұрын

    love seeing pixies get love

  • @AugustCrossroads

    @AugustCrossroads

    11 ай бұрын

    Only if people felt the same when I rip them off

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    They're so great. Glad they're still active

  • @PS3customer
    @PS3customer11 ай бұрын

    Speaking of unsung alternative rock pioneers, you should definitely do a video on Sonic Youth and their influence on the genre.

  • @colin6603

    @colin6603

    11 ай бұрын

    I never got into Sonic Youth. I can see them being influential to shoegaze and similar stuff but I personally find them boring and pretentious. To each their own.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes for sure❤

  • @howkel

    @howkel

    11 ай бұрын

    It's hard for me to think of Sonic Youth as unsung. Me and my group of friends saw them over and over and listened to them all the time.

  • @josiahroberts4025

    @josiahroberts4025

    11 ай бұрын

    Sonic Youth was also a bunch of douchebags ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ always a bummer when the music is good (arguable too) and then the people suck

  • @ZootZinBootZ

    @ZootZinBootZ

    11 ай бұрын

    Thurston Moore was a prelude to Trent Reznor

  • @PeerwasNOPE
    @PeerwasNOPE10 ай бұрын

    Alongside Pixies, Nirvana and Kurt Cobain introduced me to a lot of lesser known bands that really make great music. Teenage Fanclub, The Vaselines, Hüsker Dü, Wipers, Beat Happening and The Replacements are some of the many bands i discovered and fell in love with. Thank you Kurt. P.S, the fact that Pixies have more than 9 million monthly listeners on spotify now is insane.

  • @jtors5
    @jtors59 ай бұрын

    “When Nirvana rips you off” -Rambles about the history of the Pixies

  • @blueeyeddevil1
    @blueeyeddevil111 ай бұрын

    This style existed and was used effectively loooooong before the Pixies. As but one obvious--albeit perfect--example among many: Led Zeppelin's "What Is and What Should Never Be."

  • @latentsea

    @latentsea

    11 ай бұрын

    DeBussy, Vivaldi, Otis Redding , goes back even farther to cave men around the fire bangin sticks on a log

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick500111 ай бұрын

    "Come as you are" has been considered a rip off. But Nirvana famously mocks themselves, and rocks the Smells like teen spirit "More than a feeling" connection in this at Reading 1992. Kurt's smile is priceless kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGeMq6monpW4mrw.html

  • @badgasaurus4211

    @badgasaurus4211

    11 ай бұрын

    Everyone knows this already…

  • @Mraquanetchris

    @Mraquanetchris

    11 ай бұрын

    The story on Come as you are riff went from Killing Joke from The Damned from a 60's Garage band.

  • @CaseyWinehouse
    @CaseyWinehouse11 ай бұрын

    You can really hear The Pixies’ influence on Led Zeppelin for their song “What Is And What Should Never Be.” Also The Beatles’ “Dig A Pony.” Oh and Beethoven was in a big Pixies phase when he wrote his 5th. Where would we be without the Pixies inventing soft-verse-loud-chorus dynamics?

  • @davlor86

    @davlor86

    4 ай бұрын

    💀

  • @cafeplastique890
    @cafeplastique89011 ай бұрын

    Man I remember the first time i heard "Bone Machine" like it was today. The skies opened. I felt like a weirder, stronger, riskier person just for listenig to it. The visceral wild power AND the catchy pop appeal. Pixies remain one of my all time favourite bands and artistic idols to look up to. If only on their post-.reunion-albums they could somehow reawaken that element of surprise. But with so many artists they inspired having adopted and developed their sound, and with many of their sounds and dynamics having become familiar tropes (which surely is an achievement on their part) I guess that is a really difficult job - and in Rock, everything must be off-hand and instinctive by definition, so it seems an impossible task to set oneself, or rather, one that can only be achieved by not trying. Oh well. I give my love to the Pixies, my admiration and my gratitude.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah def inspiring

  • @jamescarter3196

    @jamescarter3196

    11 ай бұрын

    Until you said "Pixies" I thought you meant the Tom Waits album 'Bone Machine'

  • @darrenbrown8877
    @darrenbrown887711 ай бұрын

    Finding those first 4 Pixies album as a teenager was like finding gold

  • @thefirepenguins74
    @thefirepenguins7410 ай бұрын

    Etreme dynamics were very common on 70s hard rock, not invented by the pixies, Mozart did it too lol.

  • @maratortega8860
    @maratortega886011 ай бұрын

    Two weeks ago, i had the opportunity to see them live and it has been one of the best concerts i have ever seen!!!

  • @thecircledk8597
    @thecircledk859711 ай бұрын

    Irish folks and especially rebel songs have being doing that for over a century... swapping between picking notes and singing quietly to raging elbow smashing chorus's... it's always been around

  • @thecircledk8597

    @thecircledk8597

    11 ай бұрын

    @ghost mall Yeah they where the first to electrify it but they didn't "invent" it.

  • @thebeingbecoming3596

    @thebeingbecoming3596

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thecircledk8597 Nonsense, The Pixies weren't even the first rock band to use the quiet/loud thing. Not at all. Listen to Gun Club, The Electric Prunes, Husker Du, The Birthday Party. Hell, even Queen's "We Are The Champions" uses that same quiet/loud dynamic to deliver the verses and choruses waaaaay before The Pixies ever did. Talk about living in a bubble... geez

  • @badgasaurus4211

    @badgasaurus4211

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thebeingbecoming3596 Boston did it in More Than a Feeling too. This video is a stretch for sure

  • @buzkie314159
    @buzkie31415911 ай бұрын

    The quality of the videos keeps going up. I love the words on the cards. the dates help place everything and often I don't know what album songs are on for artists I don't listen to much. One suggestion would be to place names together on one side. It can be confusing if you are trying to read fast and you go in the wrong order.

  • @d13da14b
    @d13da14b11 ай бұрын

    My girlfriend loves to tell the story of how one of the members of the Clash was asked to join the band but he was like "I don't know how to play an instrument. But then I heard the Pixies and realized it didn't matter."

  • @colin6603

    @colin6603

    11 ай бұрын

    The clash formed a decade before the pixies, you might have them mixed up.

  • @johnjohnsonf739

    @johnjohnsonf739

    11 ай бұрын

    @@colin6603 Thats the joke

  • @michaelmalone7231

    @michaelmalone7231

    11 ай бұрын

    @@colin6603 He replaced Sex Pistols with Pixies. That's the joke. It's taken from a Clash interview that became part of the E.P. single "Capitol Radio One" So, Devin's either complimenting Pixies, or thinks they're garbage.

  • @awarewolves1712

    @awarewolves1712

    11 ай бұрын

    @@michaelmalone7231 Damn right. Stop making JOKES, so-called DEVIN, and tell us where you REALLY STAND.

  • @blueodum

    @blueodum

    2 күн бұрын

    @@michaelmalone7231 Same with the Manchester bands like Joy Division - the Pistols came up for a show and a lot of people said - hey we can be a band too.

  • @crissycodywhite5821
    @crissycodywhite582111 ай бұрын

    Boston's 1976 iconic classic More Than A Feeling is the real ticket here. All of this stuff points back to that song.

  • @Spooky_515

    @Spooky_515

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol wonder where you got that from

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws--11 ай бұрын

    It's like the "when the bass drops", effect that the mid-2010's had with dub-step. Classical music does this effect too especially if the music is meant for a performance like ballet or even an opera. It makes a dynamic shift in the tone of the scene, the introduction of another character or the villain appears.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah ❤

  • @3rdStoreyChemist

    @3rdStoreyChemist

    11 ай бұрын

    The ‘Bass Drop’ is far older than Dubstep and has always been a staple of Dance music and can be traced back to Jamaican music and sound system culture. Though it does make sense to connect later Dubstep to this type of Rock, as overall it has more in common with it than it does actual Dubstep and a lot of producers of the later sound did come from Rock/Metal.

  • @--Paws--

    @--Paws--

    11 ай бұрын

    @@3rdStoreyChemist I did mention classical music...

  • @jones848
    @jones84811 ай бұрын

    The thing i love most about Pixies is there are all pretty normal and not virtuosos by any stretch. But they truely pioneered the alt rock scene that can still be heard to this day and started one of the biggest movements in the 90s.

  • @custard-scream
    @custard-scream11 ай бұрын

    i love your videos, man! keep up the amazing work!

  • @Plazman
    @Plazman11 ай бұрын

    I really love the video editing in this. It's distinctive.

  • @hyungtaecf
    @hyungtaecf11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for mapping it to the source. It is a great technique that makes exactly the kind of songs I like. This style of songs that change dynamics should have a name to find their peers easier.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes it's nice to line it all up

  • @adamfindlay7091
    @adamfindlay709111 ай бұрын

    Bowie would know. He studied alot of eras and styles across the world. No rookie. Nicely done. 2 of my fave bands, Galaxy 500 ripped off everybody, but so what!? They still have their voice, their mistakes their added ideas and effects and energy so I don't think it matters one iota.

  • @ShadowV
    @ShadowV11 ай бұрын

    There's loads of bands that had the quiet verse, loud chorus dynamics. Fade to Black by Metallica, Can't Always Get What You Want by Rolling Stones, S.O.S by ABBA. Pop, rock, metal, that dynamic was already everywhere before 1986

  • @GGarciaGameplay
    @GGarciaGameplay11 ай бұрын

    OMFG how I love your youtube channel

  • @michaelkies9451
    @michaelkies945111 ай бұрын

    Thats the quality music content I want. You made me fall in love with the arctic Monkeys through your video on "tranquility base hotel & Casino" Will be on their Concert in Luxemburg in July Thank you

  • @manhattenman6075
    @manhattenman607511 ай бұрын

    Dont forget, Killing Jokes - Eighties and the whole controversy of Come as you Are. Both great songs and Dave grohl playing with Killing Joke

  • @alexrusso6456
    @alexrusso645611 ай бұрын

    Great video! For what it’s worth, there’s so much more that Nirvana was inspired by (The Melvins), and I always appreciate they’re openness to admitting it.

  • @markferguson3745

    @markferguson3745

    11 ай бұрын

    I think that the Melvin's influence begins and ends at " being in a band".

  • @dave-jk6en

    @dave-jk6en

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah they were influenced by many sub genres, New Wave, Hardcore, Metal

  • @Heisenbinks

    @Heisenbinks

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@markferguson3745not at all, listen to 'milk it' and then listen to the Melvins song 'it's shoved'

  • @theshiningemerald4288
    @theshiningemerald428811 ай бұрын

    This vid came out at the perfect time for me

  • @leecarruthers6473
    @leecarruthers647311 ай бұрын

    I love the pixies, but attributing the soft verse, loud chorus solely to them is kind of silly.

  • @glennt69lol
    @glennt69lol11 ай бұрын

    Bowie had a great understanding of all music genres

  • @Jegbmf
    @Jegbmf11 ай бұрын

    Where is my mind is my local scene’s wonderwall. I remember at one DIY show, 3 out of the 4 bands played it that night. By the second time hearing a shitty where is my mind cover I was done lmao

  • @DrFroyd123
    @DrFroyd1236 ай бұрын

    Nobody knew the pixies till Cobain said they 're his favourite band! Great video, by the way

  • @hexywesky
    @hexywesky11 ай бұрын

    It's so sensational to say a band has ripped something off. Everyone takes inspiration from something

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    This is so true

  • @TomVCunningham
    @TomVCunningham11 ай бұрын

    I hope this video talks about "More Than A Feeling" by Boston and "Eighties" by Killing Joke. Edit: it didn't.

  • @TheBadBuffalo

    @TheBadBuffalo

    11 ай бұрын

    Honestly I was expecting the whole video to be about the latter 😂

  • @imnotnarcian

    @imnotnarcian

    11 ай бұрын

    Listen to “life goes on” by the dammed. It’s another one that nirvana “stole”

  • @ThePro100DK

    @ThePro100DK

    11 ай бұрын

    @@imnotnarcian thanks, sounds supermodern and cool

  • @killercaos123
    @killercaos12311 ай бұрын

    I will always argue that 90s music had the greatest impact on society and music culture. It was a total renaissance

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    11 ай бұрын

    I’ve never heard it as the greatest, nor any other era that happened as the greatest. Each of these eras had their own music that was different from the previous and helped shape pop culture, and by that the current culture at the time.

  • @aelfredrex8354

    @aelfredrex8354

    11 ай бұрын

    I would argue that 90's music was total crap. Compared to the excellent song writing of the 70s and 80s, it was corporate dreck.

  • @lenenlawless

    @lenenlawless

    11 ай бұрын

    @@aelfredrex8354 70's is a fair shout, and so is the 60's! but 80's?! 80's was much more corporate sellout than the 90's! the 90's also had so so so many essential albums released by new artists every year

  • @colin6603

    @colin6603

    11 ай бұрын

    Blink 182 was from the 90s though. For that reason alone the 60s-80s were better music decades.

  • @aelfredrex8354

    @aelfredrex8354

    11 ай бұрын

    @@lenenlawless In the 80s you still had what was left of punk and you had post-punk, and metal was at it's height.

  • @heatnationwpb
    @heatnationwpb11 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad that someone finally made this video 💯

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed ❤

  • @thenewwavejoeshow
    @thenewwavejoeshow11 ай бұрын

    I love your video. The Pixies are awesome!!!

  • @seblevi3320
    @seblevi332011 ай бұрын

    You should do a video talking about Villains by Queens of the Stone age , since their new album is releasing soon...

  • @roosternm6830
    @roosternm683011 ай бұрын

    I discovered the Pixies during my Thrash Metal obsession. No other genre could penatrate until I discovered the Pixies. They kinda primed me up for the changing of the guard in 1991 when Nirvana changed everything for me. As a guitarist, I had been trying to live up to my heroes in Metal. Once Grunge took over I was born again as a musician and adapted very well to the whole new way of playing, writing music. I had more fun in bands in the 90s than I ever did in the 80s. I thank everything Holy for the Pixies and Nirvana.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah same for us

  • @roosternm6830

    @roosternm6830

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gardenwarrior77 I only liked the guitar riff in the hit song

  • @roosternm6830

    @roosternm6830

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gardenwarrior77 Will do. Thank you

  • @victoriabonilla3936
    @victoriabonilla393610 ай бұрын

    Saw pixies a month ago it Dallas tx… amazing show

  • @stuartewoldt1513
    @stuartewoldt151311 ай бұрын

    Met a Dude from California in 1989. I was a metal head but I grew up on all types of music. I was 15 and he was 20 and had a car. He showed me Surfer Rosa and driving around in his car listening to that was a great experience.he got me to buy Doolittle and I basicly loved the pixies. I didn't stop listening to metallica but my eyes were open to something else that literally changed the projection of my life. Thanks Rob....wherever you are

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr824511 ай бұрын

    Steve albini is such a goat. Yall should do a video about his bands like Big Black and Shellac

  • @HeyHeyChey

    @HeyHeyChey

    11 ай бұрын

    Couldnt believe it when he won that Poker championship too

  • @marvinlear5848

    @marvinlear5848

    11 ай бұрын

    I appreciate Albini uncompromisingly doing things just for the art and the principle of it, as well as his impact on rock music. That drum sound on In Utero is indeed goat. But I literally just spent too much time last weekend using drum replacement to finally get around to 'fixing' the kick drum on Chevelle's "Point #1" that sounds like banging on plywood. I've only been a Chevelle fan since about 2010, but it still grates after all these years. He also engineered and mixed that song (and album) and it sounds like he just said to himself, "You know what? I'm going to just leave the faders right where they were for the last band that used this studio. I'm that hard core!!" lol If you've listened to any other Chevelle album, you'd know that can't be the sound they were trying to achieve. Chevelle, especially 2000's era, is about as polished sounding as metal gets. On Chevelle's greatest hits album they actually re-released Point #1 with a proper mix. I must admit, for that song's opening couple of minutes (of just sludge metal riffing), I actually prefer the raw sounding Albini version, which is why I've had it in the back of my mind to make a combo of the two for some time (with the exception of that yucky kick). Point is...as a producer, there's a fine line between fearlessly eschewing slick, cliche production excess, and coming off like you're incompetent. Albini is the type of to producer who'll take an olympic long jumper's leap over that line. To be fair, Albini was probably only paid peanuts for recording that entire album. Whatever it was, it was still too much, though!

  • @HeyHeyChey

    @HeyHeyChey

    11 ай бұрын

    @@marvinlear5848 Didn't know Albini recorded that album. I am going to give it a listen now. It's the only Chevelle album I've never heard

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh def!

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@marvinlear5848yes and not taking the money from artists big or new

  • @jonathangraf7671
    @jonathangraf767111 ай бұрын

    Steve Albini is my favorite musician. I’ve seen his band Shellac twice in Portland. Always a fantastic show. Loved Big Black back in the day. Touch and Go Records makes great music. Nirvana and the Pixies helped to shape my childhood and the person I am today.

  • @AnthonyZbierajewski
    @AnthonyZbierajewski8 ай бұрын

    "The fact is, I can’t fool you, any one of you. It simply isn’t fair to you or me. The worst crime I can think of would be to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I’m having 100% fun." - Kurt Himself.

  • @ZillMob
    @ZillMob11 ай бұрын

    I was curious when I saw the video title. Then I heard the quiet loud thing and I was like oh pixies

  • @batautomat
    @batautomat11 ай бұрын

    Soft-Loud slam dynamics came way before the Pixies… if you look a little harder you’ll find it frequently used by Violent Femmes, King Crimson, Peter Gabriel, even in The Wall and prog rock like Genesis and Yes.

  • @LouisWritingSomethingCrazy
    @LouisWritingSomethingCrazy11 ай бұрын

    I have to disagree. Nirvana's sound is much closer to a little known band called "The Meat Puppets". Also, having a bombastic chorus has been a thing in pop music for a long time. Since the days of Elvis, really. Though Pixies did start quiet/loud and influenced early Grunge, you are correct about that.

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh good input 😮

  • @pnwajs3532
    @pnwajs353211 ай бұрын

    Their final album Trompe Le Monde is one of my all time favorites. Talk about a good album to memorize and sing along to while driving. Damn, this one saved my life plenty of times in my younger years. I know it's pretty much a Black Francis solo project, but I just love him for this crazy album that means the world to me.

  • @challism

    @challism

    11 ай бұрын

    Not quite their FINAL ALBUM. It was for a long time, but they have since reformed and released four more LPs since Trompe (if you consider it the Pixies without Kim Deal - which I certainly do). Indie Cindy (2014) Head Carrier (2016) Beneath the Eyrie (2019) Doggerel (2022)

  • @lilburro3
    @lilburro311 ай бұрын

    Hey. been tryin to meet you. Id stay up late on Sunday nights to watch 120 minutes just to catch Here comes your man (and other stuff of course).

  • @donniedavis6163
    @donniedavis616311 ай бұрын

    I cant name one single song in all of history where the chorus isnt louder then the verse. I dont think the Pixies invented that

  • @oliverlangrall2014
    @oliverlangrall201411 ай бұрын

    I just watched a nirvana interview and they were talking about how they just wrote a pixies song for smells like teen spirit

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Pretty much 😅

  • @babhduthegreatest1666
    @babhduthegreatest166611 ай бұрын

    very interesting videos and i absolutely love the pixies but i'm sure the point being made is super strong. I'm pretty sure the calm verse/loud chorus existed long before the pixies and are even sort of one of the basic templates of pop songwriting, especially in rock. And i thought the pop songs you mentionned towards the end don't even really fit into that dynamic that much. Still a super cool video tho

  • @foyoGames
    @foyoGames9 ай бұрын

    U got me listening to the Pixies

  • @ronzy566
    @ronzy56611 ай бұрын

    Smells Like Teen Spirits riff sounds fairly similar to the riff at 1:10 on the Pixies song U-Mass. Both albums released on the same day so maybe just a coincidence. Either way, very interesting.

  • @kamperonipizza

    @kamperonipizza

    11 ай бұрын

    it’s educational!

  • @AclinGG
    @AclinGG11 ай бұрын

    pixies and nirvana, 2 out of 3 bands (can u guess the third?) i literally grew up listening to every day, love to see it

  • @mattemilo

    @mattemilo

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s gotta be the Velvet underground

  • @AclinGG

    @AclinGG

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mattemilo Sonic youth XD

  • @AclinGG

    @AclinGG

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mattemilo dinosaur jr would count too, i barely listened tto velet actually.... maybe i should give tthem a chance

  • @focusfanny
    @focusfanny11 ай бұрын

    Wait a minute... were we clickbaited to watch a video about the Pixies but titled as a Nirvana video instead. Brilliant! ❤️

  • @thecosmicblueautie
    @thecosmicblueautie10 ай бұрын

    You can even hear in songs like eels' "My Beloved Monster" and Barenaked Laides' "One Week" the use of the abrasively loud and softly quiet technique.

  • @itsbroiso2893
    @itsbroiso289311 ай бұрын

    Epic

  • @williamshaw5388
    @williamshaw538811 ай бұрын

    And the Pixies stole it from The Cars, just ask Frank Black.

  • @tetsucat13
    @tetsucat1311 ай бұрын

    Spot on . If you where in a club or live gig when these songs played you will understand the power of the slow then explosive sound. Your heart bursts with excitement. It's like the jump scare in a horror film. Fear, then fight. Down forget "sabotage" - the beastie boys, Rage Against the machine and The breeders- Cannon ball. I still bounce around my kitchen to these songs because I remember the adrenaline kick.

  • @cuqueflan
    @cuqueflan11 ай бұрын

    I thought the video was going to be about Very Ape and how they borrowed the riff from Kanishka by Los Brujos, but maybe that's for a Short, love your videos!

  • @isaacness2647
    @isaacness264711 ай бұрын

    that's not a pixies innovation tho, songs like led Zeppelin's over the hills and far away already used sudden dynamic changes on a single song and that was on the early 70s, and i'm sure the technique goes even further back

  • @Faks.09

    @Faks.09

    11 ай бұрын

    Metallica - welcome home

  • @lincolndaugherty2588

    @lincolndaugherty2588

    11 ай бұрын

    "What is and What Should Never Be" as well. Seems odd to say that someone stole being quiet then loud. Pretty sure that musical concept can be traced back even before Beethoven. Pixies were great though.

  • @MrThedonhead
    @MrThedonhead11 ай бұрын

    Its not stealing its how music works! Dylan, Lennon, McCartney, Bowie, Gallagher,gaye, Coldplay,rem, Radiohead etc etc its how music works!

  • @mandm145

    @mandm145

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you captain obvious.

  • @MrThedonhead

    @MrThedonhead

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@mandm145 I am not your captain and I don't need thanks, I am to humble for that

  • @MrThedonhead

    @MrThedonhead

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@ghost mall it's not a trick it's music and how can it be stolen it is not an object, you can't steal a sound especially one that is about quiet verses and loud choruses 😂 it's ridiculous. You also did not understand the video did you

  • @TheSoulCarnie
    @TheSoulCarnie11 ай бұрын

    What version of SLTS is that in the intro ? Sounds cool I didn't know if it was available somewhere

  • @chilinitro5599
    @chilinitro559911 ай бұрын

    The Pixies and Van Halen are my favorite bands. both have extreme energy, dynamics, and raw sound.

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis514111 ай бұрын

    Be A Debaser ! 🎸

  • @UGLY-MONEY17

    @UGLY-MONEY17

    11 ай бұрын

    I fucking love that song. It’s what got me into then originally. The way that chorus hits is so goddamn nasty lol. I love it

  • @frothyphilosophy7000
    @frothyphilosophy700011 ай бұрын

    Nice vid, appreciate your analysis. But want to note that many of the pop examples you cite really have nothing to do with Pixies. A drop, or change in tempo/dynamism, has long been a part of many genres of music. Citing some 90’s pop songs and implying Pixies influenced them in any way is misleading (unless you have evidence). Correlation =/= causation.

  • @frothyphilosophy7000

    @frothyphilosophy7000

    11 ай бұрын

    To elaborate… Smells Like Teen Spirit… absolutely. Kurt was on record about it. Baby One More Time? Not seeing the connection and never heard Max Martin name Pixies as an influence. Verse/chorus =/= quiet loud. Genuinely wanting to understand the claims made here. Thank you!

  • @kaiisth
    @kaiisth4 ай бұрын

    I freaking love pixies. I think it's a little too harsh to say it was ripped off. I think that they made it more radio friendly.

  • @omen451
    @omen4518 ай бұрын

    Does anybody what remix is playing at the beginning?

  • @arthurdurham
    @arthurdurham11 ай бұрын

    The Pixies basically started 90s rock music. I don't care for them nearly as much as those thry inspired but they still deserve the credit for pioneering (not inventing) a style.

  • @jackdeprato4474
    @jackdeprato447411 ай бұрын

    Man I love your videos so much, but these new “When you…” titles have gotta go

  • @TheSiZaGaming

    @TheSiZaGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    fr

  • @abdoul5176

    @abdoul5176

    11 ай бұрын

    It's the algorithms fault.

  • @simonesalvatore9345
    @simonesalvatore934511 ай бұрын

    And here I was thinking that we were gonna be discussing the supremely underrated Killing Joke.

  • @loucam08
    @loucam0811 ай бұрын

    Thought this was going to be about the Come As You Are/Eighties/Life Goes On topic, good to see it isn't, that's been done to death ;)

  • @deathrowlemon7367
    @deathrowlemon736711 ай бұрын

    This is a dynamic technique has been used for fucking ages. Saying it's proprietary to The Pixies is a bit shortsighted. Also, grunge isn't a genre.

  • @clouseaux
    @clouseaux11 ай бұрын

    Nirvana just did it better, better songs and better execution

  • @soldierforchrist_7
    @soldierforchrist_711 ай бұрын

    at 3:32 is that a tele deluxe?

  • @bcxhaloman
    @bcxhaloman11 ай бұрын

    Good video, I'm not quite sure how much you can attribute the concept of being "quiet then loud" in a song to just one band. I feel like in music there's only so many things you can do and turning the knob is a pretty basic part of making a song. I'm not saying they weren't the first but . . . . . I'm pretty sure someone may have turned a knob before them, and maybe a few after too.

  • @rabidbwah3430
    @rabidbwah343011 ай бұрын

    As other commenter says, i think 'your favourite bands favourite band' is more fitting for this essay

  • @radicalbongos4190
    @radicalbongos419011 ай бұрын

    A Daniel Johnson documentary would be hecka neat 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @NEMOsleeps24
    @NEMOsleeps2411 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love Pixies. I also would enjoy a video about Tripping Daisy if you ever got around to it

  • @paranoizehfx

    @paranoizehfx

    11 ай бұрын

    Ohh forgot about them!

  • @chrissteiger4199
    @chrissteiger419911 ай бұрын

    Its in the lyrics "i found it hard hard to find oh well whatever nevermind " and the guitar melody "hello hello hello how low"... sounds just like where is my mind

  • @casperoomen9111
    @casperoomen911111 ай бұрын

    Money gone to heaven is such a good song Blew my mind first time I heard it

  • @mufasatv2361
    @mufasatv236111 ай бұрын

    are you going to keep uploading on nebula ?

  • @TheTimHall
    @TheTimHall11 ай бұрын

    I went to see the Pixies at The Hummingbird in Birmingham when I was a kid. The crowd was moshing so hard I thought I was going to die. Apart from the near death experience, it was a great gig. I first saw Nirvana on a TV program called The Tube and my first reaction was, it's a Pixies rip-off! Once I got hold of Nevermind I played it non-stop for days...

  • @Bacon007
    @Bacon00711 ай бұрын

    Do a video on “Car seat headrest”