When Mojang gets simple math wrong.
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Omg did I actually say "JavaScript" and not "Java" at the end of the video? 🤦♂️ EDIT: It should also be "Java 161", not "Java161". Argh..!
@KiwiRedstone
5 ай бұрын
JavaScript is the best language, change my mind Edit: It's a joke guys... I know JavaScript has quite a weird syntax and other nonsense shit it provides with Number and String operations. I have been a frontend developer for 3 years. I know how bad it is. I just replied that way to trigger many of you, lol.
@seeegol
5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, *Minecraft Javascript Addition*
@seaajayy
5 ай бұрын
I was about to comment that. Bro said javascript instead of java
@sashaenglebert5932
5 ай бұрын
It's okay, have a hug
@RafaelScarpa
5 ай бұрын
Ah you caught it. Although... I'm no expert but wouldn't be surprised if JavaScript thought "16" + "1" = 17
I just hope on April Fools Day, Peenix just teaches us something random like polynomials, C+ or just does a daily crossword for the entire video.
@DagoDuck
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, the last option is probably the funniest.
@AstralTheNightwing
5 ай бұрын
i would love just a daily crossword with no talking, just occasional breathing noises or whatever, and no explanation on april fools
@kn1ighttt
5 ай бұрын
great idea
@LocalHallow
5 ай бұрын
@@AstralTheNightwingthere has to be a "yay" each time he completes one
@DccToon
5 ай бұрын
i want to hear peenix say "yay"@@AstralTheNightwing
I can't believe Mojang is that terrible at math. Java != Javascript
@detmaz
4 ай бұрын
balls
@TheCoolChocolate_Official
4 ай бұрын
Java! = Javaavavaa
@nooba001
4 ай бұрын
x again .-.
@Sunflower53849
9 күн бұрын
Its just a splash text little bro
you can also do "Java 16" - 1 = NaN
@erikarsov4365
4 ай бұрын
2000000000000000 iq moment
@Garfield_Minecraft
4 ай бұрын
you can convert it to ascii to binary and turn to decimal then subtract it by one
@Traitor_of_The_U.T.T.P
3 ай бұрын
🤓x👾= 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
@sophiebaldwin3577
Ай бұрын
🥖
@abdelkhaleqabdelkhaleq4121
Ай бұрын
999999999999999999999999999999iq
The only problem we have now is that the splashtext says „Java“ and not „JavaScript“ those are two very different programming languages and PenixSC said does not apply to Java
@erich_ika
5 ай бұрын
It does apply to Java. "Java 16" + 1 does return "Java 161"
@nathanromine6032
5 ай бұрын
Except for the fact that is does apply to Java. try it: System.out.println("Java" + 1);
@TurtleDSR
5 ай бұрын
Java does the same exact thing in the case of string to integer concatenation, you can try it yourself by running System.out.println("Java 16" + 1);
@Gaming32i
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, PhoenixSC is wrong that they're similar, but in this case, Java behaves the same way here.
@tfae
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I love how JavaScript actually has nothing in common with Java, and they just picked the name to ride the hype It would be like the Terraria devs calling their game "Minecraft2D" or something
I can confirm that 16+1 is not equal to 17 factorial
@enzo_gabriel3964
5 ай бұрын
🤦 16 + 17 does not equal 17!. It equals 17.
@neoharmoniagropius1426
5 ай бұрын
Of course. It's 69
@AI_Paul
5 ай бұрын
@@enzo_gabriel3964Math is not Mathing
@alfae
5 ай бұрын
@@enzo_gabriel396416 + 17 does not equal 17. It equals 33.
@E.EE.
5 ай бұрын
@@alfaeno.
0:10 why did i expect a korok to appear
reason why factorials of large have many zeros at the end: for any number: number of zeros at the end = min(number of times it is divisible by 2, number of times it is divisible by 5) so for factorials, since divisible by powers of five numbers are rarer than twos: number of zeros at the end = number of times it's divisible by 5 for 17 it should be 5, 10 and 15 all contributing one power of 5, so 3 zeros at the end so yeah the original poster is wrong, thank you Phænix for teaching us mathematics.
Alternatively, "Java " is a variable equal to ((17!-1)÷16)
@GabrielHenriqueFariadeLa-sz6vs
5 ай бұрын
Or a fuction maybe
@DessertArbiter
5 ай бұрын
yeah, I like this answer better lol, now solve for Java
@betprolol3
5 ай бұрын
So you're saying that Java = Twenty Two Trillion, Two Hundred Thirty Billion, Four Hundred Sixty-Four Million, Two Hundred Fifty-Five Thousand, Nine Hundred Ninety-Nine, and Nine Thousand Three Hundred Seventy-Five Thousandths?
@DessertArbiter
5 ай бұрын
@@betprolol3 localized entirely within your kitchen?
@diamonddotzip5678
5 ай бұрын
@@betprolol3 yeah my calculator bugged so I couldn't do it myself
2:19 Did he just mistaken JavaScript with Java ? That’s unacceptable "Minecraft: JavaScript Edition"
@itsentdev
5 ай бұрын
No, Java has the same behaviour. ``` public class Main { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println(("Java 16" + 1).equals("Java 161")); System.out.println("Java 16" + 1); } } ``` prints: true Java 161 In fact, IntelliJ even complains about the .equals bit because as it says that statement is 'always true' (Technically, the correct output is 'java: ')' expected' if you remove the quotes in the spirit of the thing.
@PhoenixSC
5 ай бұрын
I'd play that.
@derechtepilz
5 ай бұрын
@@itsentdevThe same behaviour, yes, but confusing stupid JS with my beloved Java? Unacceptable!
@itsentdev
5 ай бұрын
@@derechtepilz What I'm saying is that he didn't confuse them. Because the same thing happens on Java. I'm not talking about what he actually said though.
@derechtepilz
5 ай бұрын
@@itsentdev The point is about what he said though. I know the behaviour is the same. And he did confuse them JUST by adding the „Script“ part…
0:40 As a Balinese, we're honored to be mentioned in a Minecraft video (for some reason).
@VikryFX
2 ай бұрын
momen ketika
Haha! It happens to the best of us, mixing up JavaScript and Java can be tricky sometimes. No worries though, mistakes happen and it's all part of the learning process. I'm sure your viewers will understand. As for the naming error, it's always good to double-check those details. We've all been there. Keep up the great work! 🌟
Oh my god, is Seth actually back?!
@Sqiud3
5 ай бұрын
Not on his channel he's not, maybe somewhere else
@LorenzJahn
5 ай бұрын
I wish Seth Everman came back.
@jor03
5 ай бұрын
@@Sqiud3 He has been posting datapack related stuff on his twitter
@Sqiud3
5 ай бұрын
@@jor03 interesting
@jehmarxx2
5 ай бұрын
Oh look. A factorial.
I love how I had just finished a Khan Academy lesson when I thought "time for a break, let me hop on youtube... oh look, new peenix video, wonder what that's about!"
@user-vv5by4zn2e
5 ай бұрын
peenix
One of these days, his “yay” is gonna be some deep demonic bellow like a DOOM voice line
Gotta love how the more videos he does the more enthusiastic he is with the crossword puzzles
2:19 Java and Javascript are very, very different things.
@EdgarVerdi
5 ай бұрын
Java doesn't have gems like these: ('b'+'a'+ + 'a' + 'a').toLowerCase()
@PhoenixSC
5 ай бұрын
I messed up what I said and completely missed it in editing.
@kitterbug
5 ай бұрын
@@EpicGamer10075 They literally aren't related. Netscape called JavaScript JavaScript for marketing reasons. It was originally called "Mocha", then "LiveScript", then "JavaScript". They added Java to the name to make seem like a partner to the unrelated programming language "Java" by their partner Sun Microsystems (who late got bought by Oracle). Java and JavaScript are pretty different, at the very least, JS ain't a knock-off, just a fake friend. I don't have any experience with Java but hell it seems closer to C than JS. You have experience though, that's just my opinion from loose eyeballing.
@user-to7ds6sc3p
5 ай бұрын
@@EpicGamer10075tf you on? Ever heard of dynamic datatypes in JS, good luck trying to use those in java. C# is more similar to java than JS is.
@user-un8hy5dd3j
5 ай бұрын
@@user-to7ds6sc3pc#? do you mean microsoft java?
As a calculus student, I knew 17 factorial was the punchline.
@Isaacthemaniac
5 ай бұрын
as a precalculus student that didnt learn this in class, i still knew it was the punchline because i watched a video about playing cards.
@HiuSharky
5 ай бұрын
I don't know what being a calculus student is, but I guess I learned factorial already.
@lemagicbaguette1917
5 ай бұрын
As someone who discovered it by accident before precal, I saw this coming as well.
@PoepsIaaf
5 ай бұрын
As someone who is 15 and sucks at math i knew 17 factorial was the punchline
@Elctrucr54
4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for nerds, they often get bullied because they are smarter and superior than others 😢. I was dumb and kind and I was lucky that I was dumb cus If I become smart I would get bullied regularly by dumb students like me.
0:05 As someone who understands the most basic concepts of minecraft datapack making, this is so damn impressive
(0:50) Or in the logical long scale: 355 billion 687 milliard 430 million This is because in this scale, a billion is a million million.
The Minecraft community will make a big deal out of anything, even the retexturing of the clock.
@dylanmcshane9976
5 ай бұрын
zero lives
@maxhadanidea
5 ай бұрын
@@dylanmcshane9976 what?
@supreme_xenon
5 ай бұрын
@@maxhadanidea They said Minecraft fanboys has zero live
@maxhadanidea
5 ай бұрын
@@supreme_xenonokay i thought they were reffering to a thing or person named zero and stating that it lives as in is alive and continues to be alive
@tovarishcheleonora8542
5 ай бұрын
They just give too deep meaning for a funny sentence. I mean it sounds like as if someone were telling Java how to solve easy maths. And knowing what they usually write in that yellow text, it's very possible to be just that. Like as, just switch "Java" to "Bob" or something.
1:22 crossword junpscare
Wow your drawing precision is insanely good. Awesome how fast and correctly you draw
2:10 We didn’t come here for a math lesson.
If they messed up 16+1, I wonder if the mob vote was also miscalculated.
@asackboyplush6508
5 ай бұрын
Oi give it a fuckin rest man
@GreenateGreenworld
5 ай бұрын
i swear "the mob vote" is a phrase that splits everyone about as equally as the American Circus. am i wrong ?
@Mechstreme
5 ай бұрын
mob vote is more political than actual politics bro 😭😭
@GreenateGreenworld
5 ай бұрын
@@Mechstreme you can say that again
@Lolium-The-Atom
5 ай бұрын
For mobvote to be fair equation for java should have 3 solutions
The fact that he missed that space bar between Java and 16...
Peenix, the "!" at the end is actually just an exclamation mark. Because moyang places exclamations marks in their splash texts. So FOR ME, the 16 + 1 is actually right
@Poland4life
5 ай бұрын
he knew lmao
Function application is done before addition, and function Java x is defined as (x + 1)! - 1
2:18 although this statement is correct, it's worth noting that Java and Javascript are two completely separate languages. Minecraft Java Edition runs on Java, most websites you visit run on Javascript. ...Though someone has probably made a version of Minecraft in Javascript
@kacperkonieczny7333
5 ай бұрын
JavaScript has a sister rule to the infamous rule of the internet
@Jake28
5 ай бұрын
I'd assume the official fake "minecraft classic" thing from a while ago was made in JS, since Java applets are... not a thing anymore, and it was hosted on the website. Does that count?
@HedgeRobo
4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, apparently the reason why it's called JavaScript is because it was made when Java was very popular so they named it that for marketing reasons
@arir43
2 ай бұрын
There is a JavaScript port of the Minecraft client that can join Java Edition servers. It exists.
Ive seen many a math puzzle where you must check the ending punctuation exclamation points are devious bastards
I love it when Phoenix just goes full on mathematician mode
Hello phee-oh-nix, we the community would like to inform you there is a new minecraft themed legendary (3rd ever!) geometry dash level. Now is a great time to become a “minecraft” youtuber.
@PhoenixSC
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting me know. 🙏
@Fenpoe
5 ай бұрын
level name?
@The360MlgNoscoper
5 ай бұрын
Is it sightreadable?
@ignDart
5 ай бұрын
subwoofer lullaby
@sussycrack
5 ай бұрын
@@ignDartjust played it an hour ago and goddamn the scenes are amazing
Such a gem that you included that Sethbling clip at the start! I didn't know he was still up to things on the Minecraft side of things, even if it's outside of KZread. Miss his content. Thanks for helping me know he's still alive
According to Minecraft logic, 16 + 1 should be 16 (like enchanted books in an anvil)
As a professional English speaker I can confirm they are trying to say “Java, 16 + 1 = 17!” as a sign of frustration but they forgot to put the comma.
He sounds slightly more depressed every time he finishes the daily crossword
Actually, that's the assignment operator, so therefore it is a syntax error as Java 16 + 1 is strictly an rvalue.
@matthewparker9276
5 ай бұрын
Unless it's not actually in Java, and Java16 is a pointer type.
@Jake28
5 ай бұрын
@@matthewparker9276 There's a space, though? if spaces are allowed, would you even be able to parse it at all?
@matthewparker9276
5 ай бұрын
@@Jake28 it could just be a kerning issue.
@Jake28
4 ай бұрын
@@matthewparker9276 I hate you because you're right
1:00 the number is wrong, but factorials do tend to have zeroes as last digits (it's related to 2s, 5s and 10s that are composing the numbers being multiplied)
I love it how I literally just got done with a math lesson and decided to hop on youtube to check for new vids. Oh look! Peenix SC has a new video!! what could it possibly be about??
Minor criticisms: 1. You just called Java "JavaScript" which is a completely different language. 2. You must include the space in the resulting string (ie "Java 16" + 1 = "Java 161" (has a space between the "Java" and the "16")).
@tiranito2834
5 ай бұрын
I would say that number 1 ought to be a major criticism. It's the year 2024, it simply is absurd for people to still get Java and JavaScript mixed up...
@YodaComedy
5 ай бұрын
As a javascript developer i am very disappointed in him
@nanopi
5 ай бұрын
Wonder what Java does in the same situation
@nanopi
5 ай бұрын
System.out.println("Java 16" + 1); Java 161
Congrats Phoenix, you have officially gotten as many members as NPR news and mushrooms. That is one hell of a feat man. No seriously tho, that is crazy and it makes be happy to see.
else you can say that mojang suggests that "java 16+1=17!" actually means "j times a times v times a plus 16 plus one equals to the factorial of 17". now people have to find what are the values of j, v and a so the equation is true
This reminds me of "230 - 220 * 0.5; People argue about it all the time, but the answer is actually 5!"
Apparently mojang has been so busy ruining our days by disappointing us with pointless updates, their brains can't handle simple math
I love how everyone's arguing over what the expression would evaluate to Meanwhile I'm just like "They were supposed to use ==, that's definitely throwing an error" 😂
@plebisMaximus
5 ай бұрын
Oh it's not throwing an error, this is one of those delightful little mistakes that compiles just fine, but leaves you scratching your head for hours wondering where you typed wrong.
@Jake28
5 ай бұрын
@@plebisMaximus Javascript is built to take errors like a champ and keep trucking on. Java is not, it would just throw an error (like any reasonable programming language should...)
@scrapbotcommander
5 ай бұрын
@@plebisMaximus Oh no, that's even worse! 🤣
@plebisMaximus
5 ай бұрын
@@Jake28 Yea, fair. I don't use either tbh, just C++, that one will absolutely let you screw up.
as a programmer, he's right about typecasting but he said "javascript" not "java" other than that, i am actually really glad you know "actual" programming, been watching you for quite some time now, just wanna say, you're amazing.
I just like to imagine the factorial isn’t a factorial, but just an exclamation mark and we're all overthinking it.
I learn more in KPhoenix Academy than school itself
SethBling returning is a completely unexpected gift to all mankind
The math is correct. If they meant to say 17 factorial, there would have to be a dot or an exclamation mark at the end of the sentence. There is none however, signifying that the exclamation mark ends the sentence.
You got me with that programming joke at the end. :D
I love how he said it's "simple math" and then proceeded to show us the number 355687428096000 lol
@count3122
5 ай бұрын
It's just simple redstone.
@XplosivDS
5 ай бұрын
Big number does not mean complicated lol
@jinulife8190
5 ай бұрын
Algebra 2 math.
@tovarishcheleonora8542
5 ай бұрын
What if it was just a funny sentence? I mean it sounds like as if someone were telling Java how to solve easy maths. And knowing what they usually write in that yellow text, it's very possible to be just that. Like as, just switch "Java" to "Bob" or something.
@johnnyfrankenstein0123
5 ай бұрын
if multiplication is simple for you then factorials should be too
kpeenixn academy 1:06
1:52 how many attempts did this take you lol
You have no idea how happy 0:10 made me
Oh, come now, Phoenix. You dropped the space when you concatenated the string. That isn't how it works. ;)
I love learning from Phenix Academia
How to make very toxic trap: first, (you might need creative mode for this) build a hole that falls until a few blocks above bedrock level. Second, (use creative mode) make a sorta small but still kinda big bunker made of reinforced deepslate. Third, made the walls of the ‘bunker’ trial spawners with any nasty mob combo. Fourth, make sure you don’t die from fall damage at the bottom of the hole. Fifth, tell your friend you made a new base. Sixth ask them to follow you. Seventh. Watch them from a a secret little glass window you built in the bunker (optional) and watch them get L Bozo’ed. I chose blazes and breezes for the mob combo.
I love the little “yay” whenever he does a crossword
Phoenix, did you know you need to have a phd in mathology to work at mojang.
I finally undesrtood a math meme
in java (or most other languages for that matter) `java 16 + 1` will not be `"java 161"`, because `java 16` isn't quoted. (you corrected that at the end). It will be whatever the content of the `java` variable is, and then depending on the language it will either trow a syntaxerror because of the 16 or apply some operation. I don't know what java will do, I'm not a java programmer. edit: youtube appears to not support basic markdown code notation (using ``).
0:11 Welcome back! ☺
And here I was thinking the equation was being shouted at me. Thank you.
Phoenix, the space between the "Java" and "16" is important so "Java 16" + 1 = Java 161 and not Java161
I knew instantly what you were talking about by just the thumbnail. I learned about it in middle school advanced math when we needed to get as many whole numbers from 0 using and only once and have to be used, 1, 2, 3 and 4. A student used 4! And thats how I learned about it. 4! = 24 (4x3x2x1) Also an example of what the problem was: 1. ( 4 ÷ 2 ) ÷ ( 3 - 1 ) 2. ( 4 ÷ ( 1 + 3 ) ) × 2 3. ( 4 ÷ ( 1 + 3 ) ) + 2 And so on...
Java 16 + 1 = 17! Is possible. 17! = the big number that I’m too lazy to type out. Big number - 1 = one less than big number. Java is a variable in this so we divide both sides by 16 and get Java ≈ 22,230,464,255,999.94
JavaScript ≠ Java
when you put quotes around the “Java 16”, the answer should actually be Java 161 since there’s now a space in the string
My man knows his stuff, I was going to treat Java as a variable in the equation because my math brain took control, but my programmer brain is very satisfied with your result. I applaud you!
If you consider "Java" as a variable, the equation can be written as: 16*Java + 1 = 355687428096000 /subtract one from both sides 16*Java = 355687428095999 /now divide both sides by 16 And it comes out to be Java = 22230464255999,9375
The fact that this all happened just because they wanted to sound joyous with the equation not being aware of what happened
This entire video is just 🤓
@creashaksorganzine0
4 ай бұрын
honestly yeah... I noticed first the factorial but now it became java and that's where I got lost
@FLXNANDOGAMING
4 ай бұрын
Accurate
Omni man powers at the start. Edit: 16+1 = 16.1
It's not wrong, it's actually just variables: J * a * v * a * 16 + 1 = 17! or Java * 16 + 1 = 17!
I want all those versions of splash texts as some kind of easter eggs
You didn't include the space in the final value, so you're ALSO wrong. The correct equation is "Java 16" + 1 = "Java 161".
@tristanlansdown8722
5 ай бұрын
more like "Java 16" + "1" = "Java 161" since the result is also a string (unless im wrong i dont code Java)
@SalamanderrYT
5 ай бұрын
while, yes, it would be Java 161, "Java 16" + 1 is still very valid. when compiled, java does all the necessary steps to convert a concatenated number (whether it's an int, double, long, float...), and if you compiled a main class to print "Java 16" + 1, you would receive the value "Java 161".
@tovarishcheleonora8542
5 ай бұрын
What if it was just a funny sentence? I mean it sounds like as if someone were telling Java how to solve easy maths. And knowing what they usually write in that yellow text, it's very possible to be just that. Like as, just switch "Java" to "Bob" or something.
@DeanJKorinis
5 ай бұрын
@@tristanlansdown8722 nice catch
@DeanJKorinis
5 ай бұрын
@@SalamanderrYT thx
2:32 agreed lmao
@Lurcays
5 ай бұрын
Results of 17! Maybe it's a secret seed?
For those who don’t understand: They’re talking about 17 factorial instead of yelling 17 out loud. This may be confusing for some of you but “!” is actually a symbol in math. It basically counts down from the number in front of the “!” to 0. This is called the factorial symbol or function. For example, 5! is 5x4x3x2x1 which is equal to 120.
Garrys Minecraft
@spingleboygle
5 ай бұрын
Garrycraft
@vsanimations6688
5 ай бұрын
Minemod
@jc_art_
5 ай бұрын
@@spingleboygle notch's mod for half-life 2
Java could be a variable...
@kyr...
5 ай бұрын
Java =16! ?
The moment you zoomed in on the 17 and drew an arrow I audibly groaned
Minecraft discussions in 2010: Notch will never add beds, the night is a main mechanic of the game and skipping it is like skipping half of the gameplay. Minecraft Discussions in 2024: The splash screen numbers I guess? Idk no one's been happy with since the first mob vote and clearly aren't having as much fun with Microsoft's update direction.
I’m pretty sure in Java itself doing that would result in an error. Java ≠ JavaScript.
@nimiugn
5 ай бұрын
+ in Java also concat similar to JS, so "Java 16" + 1 is also Java 161
@SalamanderrYT
5 ай бұрын
the code in fact compiles in java (assuming you have a main method) in almost every non-esoteric coding language, "Java 16" + 1 will compile in, for example, a print statement.
You forgot that "Java" should be also added to this number, with its ASCII values.
they did get it right, it’s just in Minecraft physics
Wow I just learned factorials like 1 week ago and watching this video made me so grateful for it.
COME ON BRO you ACTUALLY did the java/javascript thing, you fearless beast
If string concatenation is even a thing in Java, you still forgot the space “Java 161”
Man r/PhoenixSC is just absolutely insane... All the inside jokes and crazy shit no one besides us will ever understand. Love it
I can confirm that phoenixsc puts random logic into things that he didn't need to.
My brain melted twice while watching this. The cause of both was instant realization.
it makes me a little happy that I could understand everything before phoenix explained it
Once I was playing on a mod pack and the splash text was "spongeboy me bob, I'm overdosing on ketamine agagagaga
we could also still treat it as a math expression, just with the understanding that we don't and can't know the value of the constants J, a, and v; we can simplify the equation, though J(a^2)v + 1 = 17! at best, we can simplify the expression to the following: J(a^2)v = 17! - 1 unfortunately, there are too many variables here to actually solve for any of them, so we are left in the dark on the specific values
It’s correct, because the “!” is not always referred to the factorial (because “!” is also used as an exclamation mark, in this case it was used as an expression).
@pederelpinguino8693
4 ай бұрын
no shit sherlock
my entire world of math has been broken, i have been lied to in my entire life, i thought i could atleast know 16+1 but i am wrong
God... I initially thought it would be something much more silly, like java 1.16 + 1 = java 1.16.1, as we talked about updates
Astrophysicist here, can confirm they did in fact put numbers on the plash screen.
BRO😭😭 THAT SPLASH TEXT MADE ME FAIL A MATH TEST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS "what is 16+1?" AND I BASED ALL MY KNOWLEDGE ON MINECRAFT AND ASSUMED IT WAS 355687428096000 DUDE I AM SO SCREWED
@ceqski5
Сағат бұрын
what grade are you in