When Kenny (Everett) Met Frankie (Howerd) Good Afternoon 1980
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Good Afternoon Plus - Thames TV 28th March 1980
Hosts: Mavis Nicholson and Simon Reed
This will make painful viewing for those who, like me, love Frankie Howerd. Though it is not his finest hour, it shows another side of the great comedian, when confronted with his nemesis, a new, young and highly successful comedian. We also see Howerd dealing uncomfortably with retorts from a fellow performer who was not bound by showbiz etiquette or politeness when cornered by his aggressor. Ironically, both men were gay in private but ambiguous in their public personas.
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Two of our sadly missed comic geniuses.
@k.avilla8061
9 ай бұрын
People who cure diseases, send rockets to the moon and discover DNA are geniuses. Comedians are just narcisistic t***s who are incapable of contributing anything to humanity except being a complet t***. As is the case with these two.
@Beedee729
8 ай бұрын
Where?
@mortalclown3812
8 ай бұрын
@@Beedee729 What a Karen thing to say... perhaps to be.
@Beedee729
8 ай бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 ooh, edgy. What a towering intellect.
@stormhawk3319
6 ай бұрын
@@notafanofem your opinion
Frankie Howerd (and his two sisters) used to teach Sunday School at the church my Grandfather was vicar of (St Barnabas in Eltham). Apparently he was often late for the planning sessions & would often 'wing-it' at Sunday School resulting in lots of laughter coming from the classes he was taking! When Frankie appeared in panto in Eastbourne I took my Grandma to see him at one of the matinee performances. After the show Grandma insisted on going to the stage door. The stage manager asked what she wanted "Can you tell Frances that Ruby Rogers is here to see him" she asked. Next thing I knew, Frankie himself turned up and whisked us off to his dressing room. They then spent 3 hours catching up on old times in Eltham. Frankie arranged for extra food for us to eat with him. At one point during the afternoon Frankie asked me a series of probing questions about my life in the Navy (him 'interviewing' Kenny reminded me so much of that afternoon.) Frankie was kind and funny without having to resort to any of his catchphrases and it was a surprise to all of us when, 3 hours later, there was a knock at the door to say "curtain up in 5 minutes Mr Howerd" for the evening show.
@TREVORALLMAN
8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, St. Barnabas Church has now erased its connections with Frankie Howerd by removing his name from the church hall next door to it.
@analogueman123456787
8 ай бұрын
@@TREVORALLMAN - Oh, what a shame. Do we know why?
@TREVORALLMAN
8 ай бұрын
@@analogueman123456787 I haven't a clue. I'm presuming a new vicar took over and decided "The Frankie Howerd Community Centre" sign above the door of the hall wasn't the look he liked.
@analogueman123456787
8 ай бұрын
@@TREVORALLMAN - Ah, right-ho. Thanks for the update. Much appreciated.
@davesmith9325
2 ай бұрын
@@TREVORALLMANwhat a pathetic thing to do. The new vicar will be forgotten long before Frankie.
What a treat seeing Mavis Nicholson. She held it together very well.
@buffalosowljah373
9 ай бұрын
yeah like the fact that she was well into it.. specially at the end when kenny threw water over everybody ..would there have been complaints about it these days ?
@fredmoss3515
9 ай бұрын
Indeed .... quick on her feet .... not like the .%^&$£* people today !
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
She was very affectionate towards Kenny and quite touchy-feely. Watching this made me realise how very different things are today.
@mr4nders0n
8 ай бұрын
@@Pfthconsidering popular freeview tv, social media and hysterical cancel culture, it really does look like the fall of western civilisation. But having said that, it's also obvious that the (upper) ruling classes have an iron grip on on what they're doing. Covid, conspiracies like g20 & wef and the looming cbdc's prove that.
TV was SOoo different in those days. I have to say how good it is to see something so unpolished
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
Spontaneous and quite tactile too compared to today - everyone too afraid to act spontaneously or intimately today for fear of being persecuted on social media for the rest of time, and having law suit after law suit filed against them.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
@@igakoga2481 Errr… where have you been these past 20 years?
How many people are aware that the other presenter Simon Reed is in fact the younger brother of the legendary Oliver Reed.
@user-dl1is2px6h
Ай бұрын
Never knew
Frankie Howerd says, "First time I have ever had anyone in my arms wearing a beard." Kenny Everett retorts, "That's not what I've heard!" Hilarious. Thank you for the upload.
@antoniosilvestro9045
Жыл бұрын
Frankie howerd was brilliant and been gone 31 years ago today x 😢
@hughstevenson1592
9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@andy6576
8 ай бұрын
Howerd was of course, gay, and very, very secretive about it. You can see his expression when he says "well you heard wrong", he was genuinely annoyed. And throwing water into Kenny's face at the end...not ENTIRELY for laughs, I think.
@tony4235
8 ай бұрын
Wonderful wonderful, just wonderful
@riverbankjohn
8 ай бұрын
@@andy6576yes I noticed that he wasn't too happy about it :/
They were all completely off their trolleys and why bloody not ? 😂😂😂❤❤❤
@michaelmarshall9132
9 ай бұрын
That would help in this day and age .
Fascinating 38 minutes from 1980. We almost had it all but instead we got history.
Kenny is such a sweet and beautiful soul.
@JJONNYREPP
Жыл бұрын
When Kenny (Everett) Met Frankie (Howerd) Good Afternoon 1980 2236m 25.5.23 both starred in thrillers - cinema wise. dunno if howerd did a voice over or created a cartoon character, though... as for this allegedly cringe worthy episode - old mavis seems to be losing it, here... much to the audience's glee, though...
@KatMusic2009
9 ай бұрын
Was!
@michellefalleur960
8 ай бұрын
Love Frankie as well, he just always makes me smile and laugh, xxx
Frankie, a deep thinker, intelligent and curious to learn about new people. Kenny was really crazy, but naturally funny too
Mavis felt a real warmth towards Kenny 🥰
I love that Kenny, very relatable. I was the stick insect too. We used our brains to get out of fights because we had no muscles. I remember a time when two little bullies were swinging on my school tie, I was already 6 feet tall. I thought "I've had enough of this.' Let them think they've won, fell on top of them. One ended up with a broken collar bone and the other got a broken leg. I never got picked on after that. A little ironic, most people say that we need to stand up to bullies. I prefer to squash them. Anyway, I hope no one is suffering. Please all enjoy your days. ❤
@daniellatheczarina2u915
8 ай бұрын
Thank you that made me laugh!❤️
@916hayabusa
8 ай бұрын
I was the fat kid, low self esteem, got picked on and bullied a lot in the 80s, never managed to hit back, well done for breaking their bones, wish I’d had the ability or chance but age taught them all a lesson, school is a very short and pointless time in our lives, if we are inherently decent people.
@bazsuperbi1773
8 ай бұрын
@@916hayabusa I get you Haya. Learned so much more between school and now. Yeah, I would never hit back, just let things happen, tw@ts got hurt, well, it was their own fault for treating me like a playground. I hope you can put that All behind you now, mate. Enjoy yourself x
@paulbradley705
8 ай бұрын
Violence is never the answer. I hut the school bully ,the school laughed at him and a week later he jumped off a bridge.i dont blame myself.i dont feel sorry but i pity his family.
@bazsuperbi1773
8 ай бұрын
@@paulbradley705 Fcuk man. Some things we just have to put behind us. I hope you are doing well. 💪
Grew up with comedy like this when comedy was funny at no one's EXPENSE 😊 CLASSIC GOLD ❤
This is such a wonderful random interview... What would I do to go back to this simple..time. We are bombarded by internet everything..this is a real time capsule of how it should be. Thank you so much of reminding me.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
We've taken a wrong turn, haven't we? for sure.
Talking of being nervous, I was watching Kenny's hands very closely expecting at any moment for him to whip frankies toupee off. But it shows that his anarchy was just an act. They did have a little gay dig at each other but it was all done in the best possible taste. ❤ So many of the great comedians are now only with us through videos and films.
I grew up with the kennys video show before he moved to bbc loved that programme where pop stars came on taking the mick could listen to him all day cuddly ken you are missed
RIP Frankie Howerd: 6 March 1917 - 19 April 1992, RIP Kenny Everett born Maurice James Christopher Cole; 25 December 1944 - 4 April 1995 and Mavis Nicholson (née Mainwaring; 19 October 1930 - 8 September 2022
Two legends of comedy together in one show, the likes of which we will never see again. Thank you so much for sharing this, brings back so many happy memories for me 😎👍
Sadly gone but never forgotten, two great comedians of an era of camp comedy just on the edge, absolutely brilliant.
Two comic legends the late Frankie Howard and Kenny Everett both legends in their life time sadly missed but certainly not forgotten 😔
How respectful is Kenny Everett….two wonderful comedians😅….
I bet the directors and staff in the control room were tearing their hair out 😆. Absolutely brilliant!!!
My God, I can only imagine the jokes and innuendo that would be delivered if this interview at the beginning was televised in 2023! It would probably end with an investigation.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
Several law suits, all four of them torn to pieces on social media, vilified in the mainstream press and then cancelled. But, you know, things can only get better.
Love Kenny ❤️ they definitely don't make them like this anymore 2 wonderful people sadly missed RIP 🙏 gentlemen ❤
You can detect Kenny's shyness. That's classic for an otherwise, seemingly madcap personality.
I rarely watched Afternoon Plus as I was either at school or work. So good to see this one.
@MarkStevens8899
9 ай бұрын
I did when i skyved off school, Crown Court and Pebble Mill too.
I still miss wonderful Kenny after all these years :(. Great to see him with the amazing Frankie. Class like this was the norm back in those days. Now we've got Nish Kumar and Sara Pascoe FFS I do think poor old Kenny is looking worse for wear here and quite depressed. I think he suffered a fair bit with it. Love you Ken wherever you are.
The good days of wonderful comedy& happy carefree television, not like today
The line about , first time i have had a man with a beard in my arms, and Kenny replies not what I heard. A classic!
What a super format. I love the interaction and freedom between guests and interviewers. Magical.
This was broadcast just 3 days before I was born (1st April, 1980). Surreal. But the Thames TV ident formed a core memory in my early years. My mum recorded Star Wars off TV for me, and it had that Thames ident at the start. I watched it on a loop hundreds of times.
@williamdiffin28
8 ай бұрын
Maaah meee meeep meee Paaah pah pah paaaaaaarp.
I think Mr Howard lived just near the Churchill lights and we always had to say he lived there on passing his house. I love listening to him especially in Up Pompey.
Thank you david benson it at night 11.15 pm and watching this i was transported back to 1981 God bless you
Kenny is so self conscious and nervous. His own show gives one the idea he is the opposite, but in front of other funny people he retreats into a shell. Probably a lot to do with the bullying he got in his younger days
Two. Great comics from different generations and will never see the likes of them again. So sad thanks for posting rest in peace Kenny and Frank
I think those are great observations. There's an undercurrent of envy between them, and Nicholson and Reed are out of their depth. I'm surprised Frankie's syrup didn't come off at the end!
@joanneentwistle7653
Жыл бұрын
I think for Frankie it would have been embarrassing but a bit of release if that toupee had jumped off and did a dance with a cane and top hat to the silvery moon.
@farmbrough
Жыл бұрын
@@joanneentwistle7653 did he think people didn't know it was a toop?
Both men found it hard to accept their sexuality. They had that in common.
@StrawberrySunday212
Жыл бұрын
Kenny didn't find it hard to accept it. It was those around him who struggled to accept it.
@JJONNYREPP
Жыл бұрын
When Kenny (Everett) Met Frankie (Howerd) Good Afternoon 1980 i'd put 'em all in a field and bomb the bastards!!!! as for this allegedly cringe worthy regional stab at light entertainment scrutiny... it aint that bad. i am sure they have other notables to interrogate. and i will seek more of this out.... the guy's impression of howerd was sadly, titter ye not - literally... but beats listening to neighbours play recordings of household chores eg: washing machines or tables being dragged across a floor... can't say that's entertainment but there you go...
@David-uf8ex
8 ай бұрын
@@StrawberrySunday212He certainly did and was in the closet for many years even getting married knowing full well he was gay to keep up appearances
Two greats gone. Thank you gents for all you gave us
Thank you for uploading this. I think I misremembered the tone of the exchange between Kenny and Frankie ("That's not what I heard" "Well you heard wrong!"). Perhaps I was more sensitive in those days, because I remembered it as a rather poisonous moment. Seeing it again, it seems just a bit of waggery (although dishonest). Perhaps I was reading too much into it back in the day. Isn't KZread wonderful? A vaguely remembered bit of daytime TV that I never imagined I would see again, now available, thanks to you.
frankie howerd never fails to entertain . love to hear him speak. v intelligent and funny.
Wow, screen full of legends. Back when TV was good, no politics :) Me as an 8 year old.
There was a childlike vulnerability with Kenny. A lot of his humor was quite childlike too. You couldn't help but like him.
@mikehudson8884
Жыл бұрын
Kids loved his shows back in the late 70s and early 80s I know I did...
@jamiecurran3544
11 ай бұрын
Good old uncle Kenny the world is a much duller place without him, and Frankie too!😔🙏✌️
@david-pb4bi
9 ай бұрын
He wasn’t very funny, more cringeworthy if anything.
@jamiecurran3544
9 ай бұрын
@@david-pb4bi yeah well most of the guy's and young lads watching were mainly watching for the eye candy/hot chick's in skimpy outfits!😂
I grew up watching these 2 in the 80s. Been a kid and seeing these 2 was mind blowing. This clip is pure tv gold. 📺 back in the day when tv was very watchable.
Loved that the whole thing was slightly out of control. I never found Kenny Everett that funny, but he certainly made things unpredictable and they were very brave to allow him on.
Two immense talents sadly gone.
I’m detecting here that Frankie and Kenny quite disliked each other. Kenny was obviously uncomfortable and irritated by Frankie’s probing condescending questions, while Frankie I felt challenged Kenny at whether he was in fact funny (a comic) at all.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
And yet they clearly enjoyed snuggling up to one another. I sensed that there was some good old fashioned rivalry between them, and equally some mutual admiration too.
What a wonderful interview. Franky and Kenny were both unique and very funny ,silly, perhaps but always a pleasure to watch. R.I.P you silly sods.
all done in the best possible taste (of course) 🙂 x
As a shy person, i have w massive respect for kenny everett. He never once pretended to be more than he was..... A profoundly brilliant entertainer, way ahead of his time
I think there is something attractive about Mavis. I really cant explain it
Laughter literally saves lives so these wonderful characters are true heros. ❤❤❤
I’ve been looking on-and-off for this program for years. Thank you very much for sharing it. I’ve adored Frankie since I was a child. My grandad was also a fan. We had the opportunity to see him in pantomime one year, but he had to bow out at the last minute because of a leg operation so we got George Takei instead. George Takei was brilliant but it was such a shame we never saw Frankie. One of my regrets in life is that I never got to see him live. It’s absolutely great to see Frankie and Kenny working so well together.
I do love Kenny, very sadly missed. When people could just laugh and not take life too seriously.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
Or worry about every minuscule aspect of their personality being put under the microscope on social media and shredded to pieces.
Kenny Everett super genius and hilarious
Queens of comedy.
Fascinating: they are so different and yet so the same.
Kenny Everett was a TV genius and his radio show was amazing 🌈
God Bless and keep you, Frankie, I love you and miss you greatly.
Mavis was a great interviewer
In these 'different' times so difficult to watch, stellar stars of their time but having watched the 'mockumentary' about Frankie Howerd, incredibly difficult to watch his behaviour towards Kenny Everett..Oh BBC you are going down..Goodbye licence fee..
Smiled all the way through! classic!
I have never heard of this show. Love the host. She is a bit like a slightly tipsy loving auntie.
Brilliant to see these two together, hilarious interactions and an appropriately chaotic ending that was clearly brewing as the show progressed!
Rather fascinating if uneasy watching😅Ray Milland and Frankie-Clash of The Syrups!
That was one of the most genuinely anarchic interviews ive seen on mainstream TV...and thats coming from somene who actually is a political anarchist!....Sadly the over muscled Charles Atlas time is back nowadays, and even worse than it was in the 1950s, when Kenny was a kid. Folk were thin in the 1960s and 1970s and, as he says, the artistic type was in fashion. Now its the fashion to spend way too much time in the gym building up the six pack, and not bother to do ANY artistic or intellectual things at all. Which is partly why Britain has so few good music bands or interesting DJ's or even comedians nowadays. Is that an improvement? Nah, mate, nah...
From different epochs. Howard developing his characterisation and humour to appease and tickle live generic profile audiences of his time (that I think he developed during his military conscription time). Everett just developing what he had, from his nature and life observations, in an era of far greater choice, freedom and audience selectivity (inherent in radio vs "the only theatre in town"). Kind of like Edinburgh fringe comedy: - no captive audience => no captive comedian => Marmites. I loved KE on the radio - belly laughs!
Thank you! That was utterly marvellous
@AntonyHR
7 ай бұрын
It was utterly Mavis 😉
This is a wonderful video, a real gem. The only thing painful about it is your description of it.
The days before comedy and innocence died.
'Simon Reed', the brother of late 'Oliver Reed' !
That bit where Simon says to Frankie " You nearly concerted me" had me laughing for all the wrong reasons XD
I wish I could go back to 1980! 😥
@TrishPayne73
8 ай бұрын
I was 9
Thank you for posting this! I love it
I'm now imagining Kenny in a Carry On film!
It wasn't often that Frankie was himself in front of the cameras, but I think he came across quite well actually. And fair play to Kenny, who let him speak for the most part without dragging the attention onto himself. All in all, a very enjoyable glimpse of the 'old guard' in the company of the 'new wave' back in 1980.
Howard had never seen a comedian with a beard, Everett should have said, " I've never seen a comedian with a rug on his head."
@edmundpower1250
9 ай бұрын
😮
Mavis was so beautiful, RIP
@therespectedlex9794
Жыл бұрын
For a bloke.
@douglastaggart9360
Жыл бұрын
@The Respected Lex what do you mean a bloke. She's a real woman nut a man
@therespectedlex9794
Жыл бұрын
@@douglastaggart9360 I think a lot of women look better than her, and most of them are men.
@bogusmogus9551
9 ай бұрын
Couldn't stand the old bag at the time, but this made me warm up to her a bit
Who remembers Captain Kremen and (my personal favourite) Carla... hahaha
Could you imagine going to dinner with those two -- wow, it'd great !. Mavis Nicholson was gorgeous, I always had a crush on her !
Couldn't stop looking at mavis what a cougar!
@russellwhite1581
7 ай бұрын
Who'd have thought she was 50 when this was made. Love the accent too!
R I P ,Kenny,❤
What a superb programme. Fascinating. I’ve never seen this before - but how insightful, and controlled of the official interviewers once frank started asking Kenny stuff to hang back and just see how it ran … fascinating even though Kenny clammed up in many ways. Clearly both very thoughtful people.
Just…wow! Lol…wonder if kenny ever did get frank back to the flat to discuss a few joke interpretations? A gem of a find, many cheers. Mavis and Kenneth Williams is a good watch too
@buffalosowljah373
9 ай бұрын
kenny was like uk version of robin williams always animated etc .. now if those too on set together my oh my 😂🤣
Wow...how refreshing to see what it was like appearing on television without restriction. Imagine if that interview was today...there'd be no innuendo, throwing of water, slapping or anything. How times have changed and NOT for the better.
I heard recently that Kenny would spend hours and hours snipping bits of audiotape together to make his shows - it would have been so much easier/quicker with modern digital technology so I wonder how his humour would have developed.
Thank you for uploading this
My all time favourite with my second all time favourite
I never saw this show because I was working, but now looking back how glad I am that I’ve lived through those times, I was 19 then😢
She was so very good, she acted so naturally with them when they were so spontaneous :-y she was the voice of sanity but she was as fun as they were (/^v^)\ ❤️🥇🏆
Thanks for sharing David,just brilliant!
First time seeing this show...I hope you got others shows in the volts ...
@anthonybailey1966
7 ай бұрын
Well , hopefully they weren't electrified!!! 😃
That was hilarious. Thank you for posting. 😂😂
Pure gold. Thank you so much, Mr. Benson.
@JJONNYREPP
Жыл бұрын
When Kenny (Everett) Met Frankie (Howerd) Good Afternoon 1980 2238pm 15.5.23 easy to entertain the welsh.
Frankie Howerd was asking Kenny questions to avoid being asked questions about himself.
@Pfth
8 ай бұрын
You reckon? He wasn't averse to talking about himself, tbf.
Even if we had talent like that these days. They wouldn’t be able to give the best of themselves. Certainly not on the BBC. They were both comic geniuses. Very sadly missed.
Would love to have seen a conversation between Kenny and Andy Kaufman.
When we had talent in front and behind the camera.......long since gone.
Days before woke eh ? look how relaxed presenters and guests are.
Thank you for archiving that vid, David 😂 It gave me a lot of memories and emotions. Ken and Frank... rest in pieces ❤ 😊 Titter ye not, Scrubbers. x
Very much my era but bloody hell hosts in those days were wooden. Makes you appreciate what a diamond Parky was.
@martydav9475
7 ай бұрын
Mavis was always very good and relaxed but Reed was terribly wooden.
@anthonybailey1966
7 ай бұрын
Mavis was most certainly not wooden.....she handled the anarchy very well and came across as warm and affectionate!