Air suspension in the automotive world seems to be a lot like McDonald’s McFlurry machines.

@DanaOrtiz

2 жыл бұрын

Every car has it and it works on none 🤣

@chrislangstaff

2 жыл бұрын

this is a great analogy!

@Oldjohn52

2 жыл бұрын

Both are equally expensive and complicated to repair. Both are DESIGNED to be expensive to own and maintain.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

2 жыл бұрын

No issues on my W220 in the past 4 yrs of ownership.

@shiftfocus1

2 жыл бұрын

Yet they’ve been used on transit buses for almost 70 years.

“The cats aren’t rattling… they’re not meowing either” 😂😂

The Arnott air spring is $455 at fcpeuro. The Porsche part is $1854. BTW, fcp gives lifetime warranty on any parts purchased. While OEM is always preferred, at some point the price difference just makes no sense, especially on a kind of beat example like this one.

@houseofno

2 жыл бұрын

That's just for one. If one is bad, the other is likely not far behind. Unless you just like paying for the same labor twice.

@davidpackphoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@houseofno But it's not the same labor.... It's twice the labor, it's not like you have to remove one sides spring to remove the other.

@Veikra

2 жыл бұрын

arnott often deletes the active valving in the struts so beware. I steer people away from them on the 04-10 audi a8 cause thats the case on that model

@ruwithlee1970

2 жыл бұрын

My 1987 Lincoln mark 7 had air suspension a they wanted a fortune to fix it, I deleted it and and put a race Spring conversion kit in it Is way cheaper! Basically a Mustang came in handy!

@Veikra

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruwithlee1970 It's a choice if you want to make your comfy car sporty instead.

You are lucky to have magic mike, he seems like a methodical worker.

@drsethsr

2 жыл бұрын

No, he is Presbyterian!!

@streetpreacher7176

2 жыл бұрын

Hoovie is lucky to have the wizard. And the wizard is lucky to have hoovie

@magicmikethemechanic

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@kylehansen2122

2 жыл бұрын

@@magicmikethemechanic You have your own channel !!! I subscribed, we're best friends now.

@frederiquekruger4818

2 жыл бұрын

It's very hard to find a dedicated and highly enthusiastic and diligent worker these days. This can be said about all industries.

Alternate conclusion...The original owner made the best decision for themselves by using the least expensive air spring possible and dumping the car while it was still working. Sure, he screwed the dealer and subsequent owner, but he saved $.

@that1guy82

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what i was thinking. The guy that did the work saved some money, but cost the new owner money. Sounds like he is getting a whole new set tho.

@russelljacob7955

2 жыл бұрын

And at the depreciation. Get that suspension fixed and into a detailer for a bit of black cleanup? New owner still making off better. If I had to tinfoil hat? Looks like original owner loved to park by feel. I am betting hit a curb which is also a reason for the new wheels.

@gglen2141

2 жыл бұрын

I like the way you think.

@discerningmind

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the common things that people do to dealerships. We always think that dealerships are the bad guys but people lie and trade-in vehicles that have hidden problems.

@eaglewi

2 жыл бұрын

What if that part had a lifetime warranty

If I saw a car with 20" wheels, a partial wrap, "custom exhaust", and other custom features, i would RUN as fast as I could! You can almost certainly bet it was abused and maintenance money was diverted to "cool" stuff! As I get older I appreciate Basic engineering as done by the factory. It's tough to find basic cars anymore. These cars are money pits!

@philb707

2 жыл бұрын

All the people I know with "20 inch wheels, a partial wrap, "custom exhaust", and other custom features" maintain their cars better than you. Car enthusiasts of a certain age take care of their cars, dont make a broad assumption like that

@elenarobert

2 жыл бұрын

Who ever owns this has been racing, judging by the after market rotors, non reflecting finish on hood, and scrapes on the bottom of the car. He probably could not afford the dealership!!!

@terry-zi7eh

2 жыл бұрын

20’s were probably stock. Someone put 22’s on and there goes the neighborhood

@anthonyxuereb5410

2 жыл бұрын

very well said

@mig0s

2 жыл бұрын

These come with 20" wheels stock lol

Probably didn’t help the air suspension driving around in those 22in wheels with practically no tire on them.

@Rambogner

2 жыл бұрын

The ride on that must be horrific. Do Porsche come with run flats?

@IMajst3RI

2 жыл бұрын

Buy a car with an expensive air suspension for ultimate driving and instal wheels with with less air in the tiers than a small pack of lays

@martinsvensson6884

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rambogner It would be if you put them on an old cheap car :) But its not going to be horrific on a newer Porsche with air suspension.

@misterchow

2 жыл бұрын

No name tires are always a red flag.

@joshuakhaos4451

2 жыл бұрын

@@misterchow This car has all the signs of a former owner that bought too much car for his income, so he just treated it like shit while he could afford it before maintenance piled up. Then when it did, I just put cheap replacements on it. Theres lots of owners of cars like this, pretty low on income(But enough to buy the car used), They put aweful aftermarket stuff on, wrap them, abuse the car and make cheap fixes until they can sell it. A classic example of putting lipstick on a pig. I would love to own one of these or am older 911 one day, But I'm going to buy one that has been maintained and kept stock. I'll pay the premium so long as I get a well kept car.

I want a word with the guy who welded that exhaust😂😂

If the previous owner fixed it with the aftermarket air spring I’d say it worked out for them. It worked until they traded it while everything worked.

@lutomson3496

2 жыл бұрын

and the dealer knew also when they sold it as during the inspection they would know it was aftermarket buyer beware and always get a PPI done

@olikat8

2 жыл бұрын

Yup- I'm sure the dealer wasn't padding his pocket on both sides anyways...and if there was financing involved? Dealer got a lick from that as well

@rosscoeradio3741

2 жыл бұрын

@@lutomson3496 usually dealer won’t know about previous repairs unless it’s something obvious. Usually sales people, not mechanics. Even their “mechanics” are just oil change techs anyway. They send real issues back to dealer or specialty shop. If air suspension gave no faults, they wouldn’t waste time messing with it. Same with transmission without issues. They don’t pull and tear down to inspect for every car they sale. If it works, they thanks their god and move on to whatever is holding it up from being legal or pleasing to sell.

@billyjoejimbob56

2 жыл бұрын

The previous owner? You mean the original $1000 per month lessee? I looked cool for 3 years, now it is someone elses turn to look cool. Second "owner": You like? looks like new... yes we thought so too. Tires? $1,6oo ?? Holy sh*t!!! Brakes? Waddayameant $2400 ? It is only 4 years old!!! Air spring?? I didn't know this POS even had air springs!!!

@lutomson3496

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyjoejimbob56 the current owner is the fool not previous and look cool safety hazard vehicle

I'm a truck driver. Air springs also usually have slow leaks, (at least the ones on semi trucks usually do) so every time I start my truck I need to let the air bags fill before I move. If I start driving my truck before the air bags fill, they can tear themselves.

@aussie2uGA

2 жыл бұрын

Thats interesting and somewhat makes sense as so many trucks start and then just sit there for several minutes.

@mannypaneser3342

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sitting in my rig right now at a delivery listening to one of my airbags leaking ever so slowly 🐌 🙃

@JonesNate

2 жыл бұрын

@@aussie2uGA In compressed air systems, you don't usually chase down every small leak. You don't need to, since you can just put in more air via the compressor. Fluid systems are different; when you lose fluid, you can't just get more out of thin air.

@Veikra

2 жыл бұрын

the issue with air ride on cars is people dont service the air dryer and water gets in the line. They dont know and their mechanics are clueless as to how air works. Having industral air compressor and commercial truck experience I know and do the service on my clients air ride cars.

@JonesNate

2 жыл бұрын

@@Veikra I haven't messed with the air dryer stuff yet. What you say makes sense, though.

Thanks for this video. I knew about the issues with air suspension, but this provided me some good information to keep in mind.

Maybe your customer likes the color combination of this thing, but it might be one of the worst clashes of paint I've seen.

@ozarkliving7263

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Very tacky

@406Steven

2 жыл бұрын

Between the wrap, the booger welds on the exhaust, and parking by braille I was surprised they hadn't plasti-dipped the wheels. That's Craigslist shitbox stuff, not Porsche level modifications (and I'm not even a Porsche fan).

@LS-ye5pp

2 жыл бұрын

Ricer Panamera

@rezainglis

2 жыл бұрын

Tacky hooptie sh*tbox. I suppose the dropped suspension adds stance to the vehicle that will look great to a ricer :)

@myyoutubename152

2 жыл бұрын

I bet the whole thing was wrapped but they pulled the rest of the wrap due to it being damaged and peeling

I'm with Mrs. Wizard. Those are aftermarket wheels and they have virtually no sidewall. That's rough on the suspension. It also looks like the owner doesn't seem to tiptoe over bumps in Kansas. Yeehaw!

@sixteenseven123

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would assume more sidewall would absorb more impact and alleviate some stress from the suspension components, the force of an impact has to go somewhere, right? Although I'm not too sure how this particular system works and if the vehicle has sensors it could be constantly adapting to road conditions and purging then reinflating the bags accordingly? Not too sure, but I certainly don't think less sidewall would help the suspension at all

@dylanmovchan6139

2 жыл бұрын

doesnt help that you can see the sway bar end link on the other rear side makes contact with the outer cover for the air suspesion. if the passenger side was missing the metal cover that could be a bad mix. rubber boot on the good driver side is ripped if you look closely around 13min mark

@aborted4196

2 жыл бұрын

I don't get the no sidewall trend

Very interesting. It would be so nice to see an aftermath video with the car fully repaired and working as it should.

Good info man. Glad your willing to teach as well

Rule of thumb with Mercedes is if one blows replace the corresponding one. I just went through this with my S class not too long ago.. The passenger side front blew out and I replaced both sides. Now, I wanted to buy OEM which is Blistens and they were back-ordered for the 4matic set up 45 days. Arnott was back-ordered as well. I couldn't wait and bought a set from Rebuild Master-Tech. They were highly recommended by the MB forums. I sent by cores back so the next person that needs a set doesn't get shut out.

love how he corrects himself every time he says “ruff”😂

@mike_f

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Ruf Porsche.... :)

@durkbros7418

2 жыл бұрын

Been hanging with Hoovie too much😂😂😂😂

I trust the Wizard will inform us of the total final cost to repair the suspension when completed. Other sites suggest it could be well over $5,000!

@warrenmichael918

2 жыл бұрын

Im not sure he will talk in detail on the price here since the dealer is footing the bill.

6 months winter here in Norway, is a real trouble for airsuspension, cool video as always!

When I start to get chub for a car I know I shouldn't touch, Car Wizard always brings me back to earth. Thank you for saving me millions Car Wizard!

Air springs; some are better than others. My car went 503 000km on one, 543 000km on right front. My client went 413 000 before front left failed. 04-10 audi a8 were great. I replace a lot of broken coil springs. Air ride is durable if you keep water out. I service dryer every 2 years and that IS needed if you want air ride to be reliable. I replace rusty, broken coil springs at way below mileage and age than air spring nowadays. My 2012 beetle had 2 broken coil springs at 125 000km. Friend bmw , 40 000 km, then 103 000km. Audi a6 2008, 236 000km

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

Do you know anything about the Porsche Cayenne air suspension for the 2015-2018 generation?

@Veikra

Жыл бұрын

@@prabeeshsidhu Same system as audi Q7. They have same air spring construction as a 2011up audi a8. 2 outer seals instead of 1 like on the D3 audi a8. Currently editing air srping replacement (spring only) on a D4 so sub to me and when the video is out you`ll see practically the same type as on a cayenne

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

@@Veikra I see your located in Canada, would you avoid the system overall if you could? I’m looking at a cayenne that has it and I think our extreme climate and poor roads will lead to a failure earlier rather than later

@Veikra

Жыл бұрын

@@prabeeshsidhu No I'd go with air ride with any car that offers it. You have it the wrong way around. Air ride is better for extreme roads and will save the rest of the suspension from harm in potholes. As far as reliability it's equal or superior to steel spring. Volkswagen products are known to break coil spring. In quebec we have terrible road and my car had the first air spring failure at 499 000km and other at 539 000km. My beetle broke both rear coil before 127 000km.

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

@@Veikra I’ve been worried about parts. They seem to be more scare as the time moves forward. The steel spring will wear out over time while a bag will go out at once and require me to source a part immediately. Air suspension also seems to have a lot involved including all the sensors, valve block controllers and air lines etc. Just seems like a lot. I haven’t been able to get over it because from the starting of time it’s been drilled into me to avoid air suspension due to the obvious and early failures in merc and Land Rover systems. This vw design seems better but it’s the salt on the roads and the -15 to -20 degree winters that makes me feel like things will go bad faster.. are you a mechanic if I may ask? What servicing do you need to do for the air bags ?

"It's awesome until it breaks" , wise words 😂

Air suspension is a serviceable item on any car... I have had S class, R class, X5's, X6's, Panamera's, etc. and I just replace the rears as soon as I buy. It's generally only $100 each side and sometimes down to $50 per side, depending on the car. They always come with metal rings - Even the cheap aftermarket ones... I would say that is just very unfortunate case that the band blew off. The fronts always last longer, no matter what car. But I would recommend changing rear air bags every 5 years, no matter what car you have. There is a reason they are extremely easy to replace... It takes about 30 minutes on your driveway with the original car jack... 1 hour for both sides... Super easy. Nothing to fuss about. They are engineered to be changed at regular intervals. Porsche Panamera is a great car...

Thanks for another informative and helpful video

That's one that might have been on its way to Hoovie's Hooptie Heaven, if it wasn't for Wizard's (and Magic Mike's) skills and a loving owner with the $$$ to put into regular maintenance and essential upkeep 👍👍 🖖🙏🇨🇦

I had this happen to the wife's GX 470, I converted it to coil springs from FJ Cruiser $56 bucks a piece, versus $2000 dealership airbags and labor.

You and mrs. Wizard are sounding more professional with every video. Thank You For Your Entertainment

Love you wizard “ you’re not cool anymore” Made me crack up lol this is why I love my old school Mercedes’s

Oh the pro tip is that these premium vehicles use Billstein shocks. When I was reading the paperwork that comes with them it always says replace both. Ie if it is a front shock do both front shocks don’t just do one. Puzzled me at first however I guess it is recognition that one can pop and the other side is compensating so if you can afford to do it make sure you can do both.

“The customer JUST bought this and it’s ALREADY broke” Me: Hoovie. Is that you? Come on out.

@MrMightyytau

2 жыл бұрын

HA HA well spotted

@charlescummings2205

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Similar problems with electronically controlled suspensions. I own a Giulia and mine has standard ones. When they will start to leak I can choose Blistein, Koni and few other aftermarket (good) ones also being able to select if I want "oem-like" (like the Blistein B4) or more "sporty ones" (the B6 ones). But for those who have the electronically controlled ones: OEM only (and A LOT of cash...).

much appreciated , I'm researching Panamera's.

We had an Audi A8 same problem. Lr air spring and a dead compressor. Cool car, but what a repair cost. Happy to fix it and even happier that it wasn't mine.

Looks like that there are two radiator clips on the bottom by the valance that have been sheared off. Only one holding the radiator at the bottom (or so it appears).

Appreciate this video .... I’ve been considering a 2016 model nearly identical to this one.

Haha! Mrs. Wizard! “Porsche owners pushing buttons!” 🤣😂

I'd say that there could be some correlation between the tires and this air suspension. Ordinary tires with ordinary sidewalls will flex and absorb some of the harshness of the road. These tires have very little sidewall to absorb road shock and thusly transmit all of the road shock to the suspension. In my opinion it could make all of the difference in the world.

@AlienLivesMatter

2 жыл бұрын

I second this position

@xFactoryUSA

2 жыл бұрын

my initial thought only observing the THUMBNAIL 🤣🤣🤣

@jlang1959

2 жыл бұрын

I would disagree, I own a PPT... the original turbo wheels are only about a 1/5 inch difference than the ones shown. These cars are meant to be sporty, ride lower etc... the difference is minimal and would not contribute to this issue. This issue is just a common maintenance issue that must be addressed. I have had similar issues on my S550 4matic and I drove it on stock 20s... and 22s... same results.

@trevorgarrett7602

8 ай бұрын

@@jlang19591” difference. And almost everyone agrees that the 20 inch wheel option rides a lot smoother than the 21 inch turbo wheels. That extra inch of sidewall probably makes a massive difference according to most people.

@jlang1959

8 ай бұрын

@trevorgarrett7602 and I still will disagree, I've logged countless hours in H1 with 16" sidewalls and it wasn't more comfortable 😅 my comments are based on actual real life experiences not traditional perceptions. Cars are now being offered with standard 22" wheel sizes and bigger on trucks. There is science and engineering involved, manufacturers spend millions of dollars before coming to this conclusions. People just equate smaller with less comfort. Think of a 10 or 12 speed bike vs a mountain bike or a beach cruiser. The 10 has smaller tires but has a much smoother ride and more importantly... it's is built for speed.

My brother has a similar one but a hybrid version. When he lifts the suspension up to cope with bad road or something, it places more stress to those condoms, and they may fail doing that. Speed bumps driven over with too much speed or summer cottage road can be the last straw. He used to have an Audi 8, and the suspension failed twice.

@joshuakhaos4451

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen how fast people will go over speed bumps, I'm always waiting for a suspension collapse or a control arm to snap one day. I get honked at all the time for creeping over speed bumps and being easy, but then watch my friend hit them at 15 miles an hour like they dont exist.

Thanks Wizard & wife....Fun video...😃👍👀

Car Wizard 🧙‍♂️ , much respect, we need mechanics to be straight forward, and tell you like it is, we learn a lot from your channel, like that Mrs Wizard 🧙 part of the vids too👍🏽

Thank you Wizard and Mrs. Instead of fixing air-suspension system, I'd switch to shocks

This was a common problem on old Lincoln Continentals. When you would see the ass of the car dragging the ground, you knew that they were in for a big bill.

@ImTheJoker4u

2 жыл бұрын

I had a 92 Continental. When I looked up replacement air struts😳 $260 a corner I ended up driving Town Cars from then on. Air springs are $75 a piece and STUPID easy to swap😉😁

@nissan6541

2 жыл бұрын

That and Lincoln Navigators. You get that “oof” face when you see them bouncing their asses down the road.

@eddyrocket8737

2 жыл бұрын

W211 estates - same thing

😂 gotta love how Wizard describes it; it happened to me on my X5 getting off the highway. Took out the fuse to the compressor at the gas station to avoid anymore damage.

Great video from the wizard.

The previous owner must have really beat on that suspension on track/street. The air struts used on Porsches are the longest lasting and most reliable ever put on a car. My Panamera has 160k miles and it's on its original air suspension, no leaks, no issues. Mine is an S, not a GTS, so I don't know if there's any difference between the two, but I think the GTS owner (it being sporty) must have driven it hard. That, or lived in a city with bad roads. Definitely doesn't help that it has 22 inch wheels.

@davepaturno4290

2 жыл бұрын

So Porsches are meant to be driven like Subaru Legacies?

@OB1jcoby

2 жыл бұрын

we do have some bad surface roads here. the problem is the drastic swing in temps all year. we go from 105+ during summer, to sometimes in the double digit negatives during winter. rough on concrete and asphalt.

No European car should be owned outside of its factory warranty. Air ride has been used in Grayhound busses since GM introduced it in the 1950’s with benefits that far outweigh the maintenance involved. Rule of thumb: don’t buy an exotic car you can’t afford to repair.

@lukeheffernan

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say any European car. My '12 VW hasn't had any repairs (besides routine maintenance, of course) and it's got 111k miles (about 50k outside of warranty). I'd certainly say any exotic European though, you're right.

My mom has a red ‘17 4s Turbo. Looks like a strawberry shortcake with off white interior! and we love it! Got winter tires for it too for Maine weather. Cool cars but expensive per year. We got the extended warranty for sure!

For aftermarket air ride parts I LOVE Arnott industries. They do a lot of parts for the OEMs.

Imagine owning a car with air suspension in India with beautiful, lovely roads.

@stuartstuart866

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen KZread videos of Indian mechanics fixing all sorts of mechanical equipment, in their dirt floor shop, with very basic tools. I am awed by their resourcefulness.

@taunuslunatic404

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartstuart866 Could they deal with high tech systems like those in modern high end cars?

@stuartstuart866

2 жыл бұрын

They likely could replace/repair the ruptured bag, making the vehicle functional, but probably not reset the dash trouble code

@videhvora2927

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartstuart866 you'd be surprised by what mechanics out here can do, they can reset codes of any kind. They can fix any kind of damage.

Look at those rubber band tires.

I love this version if the Panamera.. One of the best looking German 4 doors.

Good video!

Mercedes SL ( some ) have the same type of air suspension when rather fail the cost here in the U.K. is horrendous especially from the main dealer. Many will swap it out with conventional springs maybe this can be an option for many of these air rides

@mattneil1449

2 жыл бұрын

I would swap for the conventional springs

@jruerph

Жыл бұрын

My SL55 had a hydraulic suspension which I eventually converted to coilovers

7:49 color is hardly and indication of wether or not a small light is an LED or not; let your finger tell you, and in touch the cover and see if it’s warm.

Thanks WIZ!

Regarding the fuel filler door: My Audi Q5 TDi (same VAG family) had an opening issue. Dealer says fix was only possible by entire rear quarter panel replacement ($800+). Luckily, there is a release cord behind a carpeted panel. A little cleaning to the spring-loaded lock in its boot, good to go. You’re welcome, Wizard.

13:17 it appears the sway bar end link is rubbing against the other sur bag. Possibly something to do with why the one that let go, let go? Metal wasn't there and rubbed a thin spot?

@murry001

2 жыл бұрын

probably why the metal is there lol

13:15 car wizard, why is the sway bar link starting to slice a hole in the side of the air shock?????im shocked you didnt mention it lol

i think the unsprung weight would have an effect on the suspension, absolutely. i'm not saying this is the case but i know larger wheels and smaller tires tend to weigh more although they can provide more consistent geometry although i doubt this was the goal with this application. if you were so inclined you could compare stock weight vs. the aftermarket and see how much of a difference it is and maybe recommend returning to a stock weight to eliminate future failures. I appreciate your methodical approach to repair and maintenance.

Yes Magic Mike seems to be a great mechanic!

I know this problem very well. In fact I had all the air suspension replaced with StrutMaster springs and coil. No more air for me.

@chad15x

2 жыл бұрын

@ Aboriginal InDeon can you switch the air suspension on a porsche?

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

Which Porsche did you do that on ? Is that possible on a cayenne 958.2

@jruerph

Жыл бұрын

Stutmaster is junk

@americanindeon

Жыл бұрын

@@jruerph I have to agree with you. I don't feel their struts and shocks are sturdy enough and there is too much noise and creaking going on in the rear.

I’ve noticed in your videos you don’t properly check the suspension components right … when a vehicle has an upper and lower control arm / short arm/long arm suspension .. you need to pre load the suspension before checking for play .

Awesome shirt car wizard !!😊

The 1980's mid size Lincoln had air bags. I saw an occasional one driving with the font or rear sagged.

For whatever ride I own I invest in their factory service manuals to learn before I start work or service I've not done before or buy parts...

As a GTS owner i wish there was standard spring conversion kits.

@eddyrocket8737

2 жыл бұрын

What’s your verdict on overall reliability for the GTS?

@christopherrempel8168

2 жыл бұрын

@@eddyrocket8737 just had the car a year but engine and transmission are pretty solid. As wizard points out electric fuel pump is really the weak point. Air suspension will blow by there are a few solutions and isn’t any more prone to fail than any other air suspension. Overall very happy with the purchase.

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherrempel8168 how has the reliability been now? What year is it?

@christopherrempel8168

Жыл бұрын

@@prabeeshsidhu i had her 2 years. Suspension held up till sale at 65kmi

My Dad had two dodge rams that went through 3 air suspensions. Ram did not properly test the system for Canadian winters and drivers who don't keep their trucks in a garage. Supposedly the issue is fixed in the 2019 and new trucks as they added a dehumidifier to the system. Unlike a tractor-trailer, its a closed system and you can't add glycol to get rid of the water. It stays there till it bursts something. But my Dads diehard Dodge. He recently switched to the all-wheel-drive Pacifica and hasn't looked back since health issues forced him to sell his boat and camper trailer. He LOVES that van.

You can see alot of 2nd generation Lincoln Navigators that have collapsed air suspension. Don't see it too often on ones that don't see alot of towing use, but if you tow with them you will want to convert it to coilovers, which is easy as it's just expedition parts and you just install them and flip the switch on the back.

I think you found the reason why the dealer had a 50k Porsche for sale on the lot. The previous owner had it fixed on the cheap and got it traded in fast. Perfect decision for him and provided the new owner has a warranty, worked out ok for him too!

"Not meowing either" Lmao, I can't wait to use that one

@kennethmoureau5123

2 жыл бұрын

lol I almost spit out my food. Wasn't expecting that one.

@jjlegend3922

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethmoureau5123 I spit my coffee out, and choked on my own spit for like 5 minutes. I love his stale humor. It's always unexpected 😂😂

Ooooof the numbers of buttons around the "shift stick" looks insane!

My 2014X5 rear air springs went - leaks from splits in the creases so was fine most of the time but sank when parked at an angle. Cost under £600 to replace the paid with non oem but better quality double walled items in 2019 - I though that was reasonable give the age, weight of car etc…. Pump was fine though!

Wizard, I love most the video, however, how could you have gone twenty minutes without starting and revving this engine? It's got such a beautiful exhaust note! Also would love to know the cost of replacing one and all four air Springs. I'm definitely in the market for a Panamera GTS someday! Lovely vehicle

@redbaron6805

2 жыл бұрын

The factory one's run somewhere around $1000 each. The estimate for replacing all 4 with OEM struts according to Repairpal is around $6000 give or take....

Overheard at Cars and Coffee: "Why is your car so low?" "Uh, um...oh, I like to ride low and slow bro." "Betcha it's broken" Vape Bro: "Is not - shut up!"

@mannypaneser3342

2 жыл бұрын

"Vape bro" hahahahq

@thecman26

2 жыл бұрын

It is broke

@fleurdewin7958

2 жыл бұрын

It is so low to prevent catalytic converter theft.

@Derek8487

2 жыл бұрын

Low and slow? Wtf is he a crock pot? 🍲

that funny accordion Mrs wizard 🤣😄😆

"freaked out suspension!" great comment!

I can never unsee a dog taking a crap when looking at this car lmao Thanks Car Wizard

@volvo09

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say that! Squatting dog! Funny stuff

@rpraetor

2 жыл бұрын

Not as bad as the Chrysler Crossfire.

@Rambogner

2 жыл бұрын

@@rpraetor true. Truly the most awful looking car ever made

@vincedibona4687

2 жыл бұрын

“ I can never under a dog taking a crap when looking at this car lmao” - in English, can you tell me what that means? I can’t make any sense of it

@abdelrahimmohammed1814

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincedibona4687 it was supposed to be unsee Damn autocorrect

You should never use aftermarket suspension parts and also big wheels deteriorate the suspension parts much faster.

@jlang1959

2 жыл бұрын

Lies! This vehicle is at about 50k miles and already had factory OEM parts FAIL! This issue is very common on air suspension "luxury" vehicles. The A aftermarket sturts are rebuilt from old OEM ones... but rebuilt better and last a hell of alot longer! I saying this from experience on multiple vehicles.

yes Mrs Wizard...My wifes buttons get pushed when l leave the toaster on the kitchen bench " IT LIVES IN THE PANTRY " according to Kitchen Boss : D good video Mr n Mrs W and Magic Mike

The BMW X7 I rented this past summer had an auto-leveling air suspension, and it was great… as a rental. I understand those are notorious for failing, and they aren’t cheap to repair or replace.

That rear brake cooling vents caught my attention. They look really neat.

They are a pain when they go wrong, but they are very simple and don’t break very often if well maintained. If the Range Rover was in the UK I’d definitely buy it…..usually easy repair! Might cost a few quid at a garage as it takes time to diagnose. Air bags should last at least 60,000 miles. They can be replaced individually, but it’s best to change in pairs. The valve blocks can be cleaned as they tend to get dirty. The compressor filters need changing occasionally….maybe every 40,000 miles. Compressors can fail, but they are reasonably cheap and easy to change, on Land Rovers anyway, probably more expensive on Porsche.

@andycaldwell5917

2 жыл бұрын

0000

@kensmechanicalaffair

Жыл бұрын

Most people are super dense. You sound prudent..probably read a book or two every week.

@autohog

8 ай бұрын

I converted my 2016 for coilovers. Can you tell me how to disable the compressor from going on? Thanks

I had a beautiful Mercedes S430 for about 6 months. Terrible air suspension problems we called it crouching tiger.

Mrs. Wizard may be on to something with the aftermarket wheels maybe it being the cause of blown airbag. An aftermarket wheel that is much heavier then OEM with added unspring weight could cause extra stress on suspension during operation. Cheers to all 🍻

In Australia, Porsche extends warranty for up to 15 years. So if your Panamera has air suspension issues, then no drama!

I have purchased many Air struts from Arnott for Mercedes vehicles. They are actually built better than the OEM and have a lifetime warranty. Never had one fail, and they make them for almost all air suspension vehicles.

@ImTheJoker4u

2 жыл бұрын

I put Arnott air springs under my Towncar, stuffed about 400lbs of speakers in the trunk, and never gave them a thought for 60k until the Trans went, and rot determined its demise.

That Panamera definitely has a story to tell.

@joshuakhaos4451

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly of weed, Rap music and all around public nuisance. Especially coming from Wichita KS lol. I grew up there, I see how high end luxury cars are treated on the used car market lol. I'd only touch a used one of these if it had maintenance records from Porsche or some Euro Specialty shop that works on cars like this.

Had it go out on my Lexus. Discovered Ebay sold a kit of the pump and both bags for less than the price of an OEM pump only and it looked physically identical. Had a shop install them and problem free now for over 2 years.

Speaking of OEM being the way to go, when the compressor for the air suspension on my Navigator went, I looked up the reviews on some after market ones and that alone made up my mind. Even though it was easy enough to replace being that its just behind the headlight, the thought of doing the same job over every two months was enough to make me want to chew trees down with my own teeth.

@prabeeshsidhu

Жыл бұрын

So what did you do in the end..

Why electronically controlled an oil pump? When the mechanical version is so simple and reliable

@dragoonTT

2 жыл бұрын

Das auto

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

To help out the dealerships with that sweet maintenance $$$

@alanhassall

2 жыл бұрын

It is German. When do Germans do anything simple? The Beetle was a very long time ago.

@hirisk761

2 жыл бұрын

yup just look at BMW's liquid cooled alternators

@pawsnpistons

2 жыл бұрын

Because the hundreds of overpayed engineers need something to do, so they just design something to keep their jobs, doesnt matter if it makes sense.

Yeah, I love how an air suspension feels. I absolutely hate when it goes wrong.

In my day when you ordered a red interior you got that, not just seats but carpet dash headliner, everything. 👍

@bmwman1981

2 жыл бұрын

But red is a hideous colour for a interior

Arnott bags are what we use on our cars as replacements. Great quality, no issues and a 3rd of the price of OEM bags

13:17 is this screw rubbing against the air-spring?!

@robboyd427

2 жыл бұрын

That will be the next one to go.

Best thing to do is conversion to struts using strut masters. I always use them on mercedes sclass. I've had 5 of them . And used them on a Lincoln navigator. My friend used them on a cadillac escalade. We Never had a problem.

Like any other car beauty is always in the eye of the beholder and I agree with the Wizard, and the good thing about this model a 6ft 2 inch person can sit comfortably in the rear, the rear seats fold down and its a hatchback which makes it even more desirable for a family man who wants a sports car. As for this car I wouldn't touch it as it looks like it has been used and abused especially underneath where it has been driven at speed over road bumps no doubt helping to cause a problem with the air suspension

My 97 Town car has air springs in the rear. Still going strong 170k miles later…..I hope I didn’t jinx myself.

Semi rigs hauling 80000 pounds and more on air rides run 100's thousands miles with few failures.

Those alloys on that Porsche look mint 👌 😎

Took me a sec..cats aren't rattling... They aren't meowing either. Good work!