University or Tafe?

@joshkidvr

9 ай бұрын

Idk really

@AdrianPortelli0fficial

9 ай бұрын

TAFE mate

@dirtbikeexpression

9 ай бұрын

idk

@ZingOnMate

9 ай бұрын

Tafe

@BerskiTV

9 ай бұрын

neither

Then there’s the international student who pays three times the price for a degree for a job that doesn’t exist.

@callingcaskets

9 ай бұрын

honestly biggest fraud scheme

@caveatemptor3400

9 ай бұрын

@@martinkuliza I have no knowledge of this

@yngthrnz8250

9 ай бұрын

yeh australia is more beneficial for non australians than it is its own people, so cooked@@martinkuliza

@renanzinZS

9 ай бұрын

​@@yngthrnz8250that's not true. Life is way easier for an australian than for an international student

@huydo1930

9 ай бұрын

@@martinkuliza dude what are you even talking about?

As an older university graduate I can attest this is 100% the brutal truth - a truth that is well hidden from university students, sadly. The University Industry's continual survival requires these sad corrupted institutions to keep selling the lie that having a degree is the best way to a successful life. This skit should be shown to every high school kid in the country I reckon.

@BarryLetts379

9 ай бұрын

That information has helped me, but only realising that journalism wasn’t the best diploma to pick

@mr-iz8cx

9 ай бұрын

Or, don't go to university if you're only after cash. You don't need an education to make good money. If you want a career that requires uni, then you go to uni to learn. That's if you're interested in doing something other than a trade. It's pretty simple really

@dylankeppler3542

9 ай бұрын

sounds like you got a degree in a useless field, or didn't network well

@martinkuliza

9 ай бұрын

as the sme, i agree iremember day 1 ok guys we're all gonna go around the class and i want everyone to tell us why you chose this course and what you hope to get out of it almost everyone in the class "so, my name is john and i'm doing this to get A GOOD JOB" not realizing that that is highly debateable and you may get it but then lose it 1 month later and then be left with the debt anyway

@thegrandbizzare

9 ай бұрын

Lol. Someone drank the neo-liberal cool aid. Universities are trying to survive the funding cuts from successive Liberal governments, a lot of ministers whom got free uni education themselves. The "point" of a uni education is gaining advanced literacy, critical thinking and analysis skills, all of which make for a more informed community. But idiots think knowledge is only useful if it makes you money. TAFE is awesome too, but behind every practice is theory, and one is either conscious or ignorant of this.

The university guy will never know the pain of trying to do maintenance on his shit designs.😂

@kc-nl8zc

9 ай бұрын

Best comment here well said

@VenomRoadRacing

9 ай бұрын

Their design work is clearly revenge.

@sasrebel

9 ай бұрын

You sir, win the internet 🤣

@elibee2024

8 ай бұрын

Haha x)

@mynameisben123

8 ай бұрын

In my experience the root cause of this is management, who don’t allow enough design iterations especially when the design nears completion. If they did, real world feedback could be factored into the design.

I've been in both. The level of theory knowledge required at TAFE is laughable in comparison (and often the tests are written by people who themselves need some grammar lessons), but when it comes time to do practical assignments, you can tell how useful hands-on experience is by how insanely quickly and efficiently some of the lads there work. Then when you're out there working in industry it really opens your eyes to how poorly some engineers perform out in the real world, with designs that end up being more like obstacles which need to be overcome by the people actually building them, as opposed to the helpful guides they're supposed to be.

@schr4nz

8 ай бұрын

100%, there's a huge gulf between applied knowledge and theory, University should put more attention towards being in real settings, and I don't necessarily mean borrowing principles from TAFE, I just mean going into workforce to see the difference between practical realities and the ivory tower, then bringing students back into the class setting to remind them that the best outcomes are going to be derived by having an iterative trial/error loop between the people in the field and desk jockey work, not through a top-down approach of "I did my bit, I haven't tested it or talked to anyone but that's not my problem"

@Degenevesting

8 ай бұрын

I’m a qualified geologist, worked in the mines and now I’m training as a chippie with my old man. University is overrated unless you plan to drop 250k for a rental loan so you can sink piss all the time, and the only reason I actually got the geo job was my experience working in the film industry. As a chippie I make more, and the cap is not 200k like Geos, it’s limitless. Trades are the most underrated line of work. But now that I’m here, in high demand and there’s not enough of us, I reckon people should just keep going to uni. Go on mate, we’re making a killing! Don’t come and mess that up just get into debt :)

@davidtaylor6124

8 ай бұрын

An electrician friend told me about some of the maths he had to do at TAFE and it sounded pretty scary. This must have been at least 30 years ago so I don't know if it's changed. It really doesn't seem that difficult to slouch through uni and get passes, plus there's so much pressure on the faculty to not fail anyone. I don't think much of use comes out of many uni courses, and having a degree only shows you managed to slog through it and not get bored or burned out. I don't underestimate that though - I burned myself out twice trying to get the best marks I could which when I finally finished didn't amount to a hill of dirt because I'm too old to bother with post grad stuff. Good people go through both, and what they both teach are vital to society as it is. But I do think too much emphasis is placed on going to uni and not enough on TAFE, and TAFE deserves more respect and funding.

@ThMrksman

8 ай бұрын

@@davidtaylor6124 Electricians at TAFE do need to know a solid amount of applied algebra and you do want to have decent knowledge of trigonometry and a little calculus to properly make sense of the maths behind electromagnetism. The maths you'd encounter in engineering at university starts getting into shit like complex functions, linear algebra, partial derivatives, and even possibly Laplace transformations, which are all a total nightmare by comparison. The flip side of uni is the pass mark is only 50%, so instead of actually properly learning and understanding the harder stuff, a lot of students are able to scrape by simply by learning how to sit exams in general: rote memorising certain formulas which they'll forget by the end of the day, quickly working out which questions to not waste time on, and conversely which questions are free marks, etc.

@Tmate4444

8 ай бұрын

You should have to actually work in the field first, and then if you desire, move on to designing better systems etc. In fact we could do away with a majority of university courses if we did it like that, you could even train people on the job. Oh wait yeah that's exactly how it used to be...

Not a single engineering student has ever been that articulate.

@izabelaR

8 ай бұрын

I used to think uni students would be smart, but the engineering student I remember was a pot head. 😂 There's definitely people at uni who aren't that smart in many ways, they only specialise in one area but don't know much about anything else unrelated to their topic.

@tomsmith6513

8 ай бұрын

A lot of uni students talk like the TAFE student in the video lol. It's like Gaius Baltar trying to get rid of his accent.

@Bangy

8 ай бұрын

Are you doing engineering at Griffith or something?

@snailgirl1484

8 ай бұрын

@@Bangy LMFAO

@Bangy

8 ай бұрын

@@M-qw9ru There’s a difference between chinglish and boaglish

I've been a tradesman for 36 years. Self employed for 34 years. NEVER been out of work, fantastic lifestyle and choose my customers. Life's bliss 😊

I droppped out of a civil engineering degree after 2 years to start a carpentry apprenticeship which im almost finished and am loving. I find it kind of sad and annoying that theres this stigma that if you dont go to uni then you're stupid. I feel like there are a lot of people missing out on doing a job they actually like because they feel some kind of responsibility to go to uni if they can.

@sxnxqa2335

9 ай бұрын

i wish i went tafe instead of uni tbh, doing practical stuff is more fun

@Louis-kp7pz

9 ай бұрын

Mate so true

@avivabillington5514

8 ай бұрын

👍😊💯 so well said!! My the "HECS debt" from what I've heard,it takes years after you've done your university degrees. No wonder people can't afford to stay there as these new cost increases too? I know so many smarter people who never went to uni 😊 People have said I should have gone or sound as if I have been to university 😂 I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or not...

@patrickgrimaldi5790

8 ай бұрын

@@sxnxqa2335short term pain for a long term gain. Life’s not all about having fun. You’ll learn that

@TheIsioisi

8 ай бұрын

It's not a stigma, it's a coping mechanism. Relatively intelligent people, when presented with the truth that they were manipulated into spending tens of thousands of dollars in money they didn't have, for a degree that means nothing, will double down and declare that it was still the best option, rather than admit they were hoodwinked

Meanwhile a 22 year old is earning 240k a year as a truck driver delivering fuel with $0 debt with a year 10 certificate.

@doit7470

9 ай бұрын

On which planet can you make that much money trucking. 😂 if you're hiring let me know

@williamstanding4754

9 ай бұрын

Meanwhile you don't go to Tafe to be a truck driver and yeah maybe 100k a year working 80hrs a week.

@Jimbo_coight

9 ай бұрын

Go get your B-double and bulk DG license and start applying for the top transport companies @@doit7470

@Jimbo_coight

9 ай бұрын

@@williamstanding4754 yeah about those hours but double the pay you mentioned

@Looking-great

9 ай бұрын

240k. Pft. Hahhahahhaha maybe fifo

In my case, I left school at 15 for an apprenticeship in the now defunct trade of instrument making. Through a series of progressively better jobs, I now find myself designing and building prototype medical instruments where I have uni qualified engineers assisting me. I far prefer my job to theirs. They look after the boring parts like compliance with regulations, writing reports, checking compatibility with other software etc. I get to work directly with the scientists and medical staff who test and make suggestions for improvements, then I build the next version. Real jobs are often quite different from the standardized generic descriptions as understood by recruitment officers.

@helenbarrett6451

9 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome.

@ABeardedDad

8 ай бұрын

To be fair, those science and medical professionals you with alongside almost all have degrees.

@every1665

8 ай бұрын

@@ABeardedDad For sure tertiary qualifications are worthwhile, but not for everyone. And modern unis are now just businesses selling degrees to as many customers as they can pull.

@helenbarrett6451

8 ай бұрын

@@every1665 communist factory's.

Shak being the best as usual. He just brightens up your day ❤ 😃

@CrazyPigeon094

9 ай бұрын

W mans

@ShakTV

9 ай бұрын

♥

@CrazyPigeon094

9 ай бұрын

Shak, this is my cousin by the way, we all love your videos 🔥

I love University students.... They are some of my best employees 😂. From someone who dropped out of TAFE.

As an aircraft engineer of 30 years I have to say that's one of the funniest sketches you have done bra' hahaha just awesome 👌

@johnforster5312

9 ай бұрын

Same! 14 years in aircraft maintenance this year. Tens of thousands of dollars in tools but at least ive got zero HECS debt 😂

@MrWackozacko

8 ай бұрын

The aircraft as a whole?

@johno9507

8 ай бұрын

Geez I've only been a aircraft engineer for 28 years, Qantas class 1995.🇦🇺

@johno9507

8 ай бұрын

​@MrWackozacko Everything from toilets to tyres.

@MrWackozacko

8 ай бұрын

So you personally understand aerodynamics, rocket science, electrical circuitry, plumbing, hvac etc, i dont think so. Might you have specialists underneath you? @@johno9507

As someone who studied at both Uni and TAFE, these are both pretty accurate characterisations.

This man is the literal goat at skits!

Sometimes it's easy to forget it's the same person on both sides. Masterfully done. Shak mixing it up with all walks of life.

I've been to both TAFE and University, and have numerous TAFE certificates under my belt. Six to be exact. And I have also been a TAFE Teacher, so I'm pretty biased in my response here. But also very confident in my response. The characters depicted in this sketch are pretty accurate, however you see both types in both institutions simultaneously. And this is very dependant on campus location. The further away from the city centres you see the TAFE type students depicted here in both institutions. And the closer in to the city centres you see the University type of students. I've encountered many University students whom believe they are a cut above TAFE students because of the status University holds in society compared to that of TAFE. Who really didn't have the foundational skillsets to compete with TAFE students. Which TAFE provides in the prerequisite courses for advanced courses of study. This was while studying, while Teaching, and in different places of employment. The sad truth about this video, is that industry now looks at TAFE students as the less educated of the genres. when in actual fact, they are about on par. And in many instances, TAFE is actually on top. Regardless of course content.

@ht8286

8 ай бұрын

Well said...people need to realise any kind of experience is what employers want and hire you on. Doing a basic Tafe certificate will get you in the door in a short space of time ..with a minimal cost and you will not be wasting time.

@gandalf2256

8 ай бұрын

You write much more like a Tafe student than a University graduate. Congratulations on exposing this.

@ht8286

8 ай бұрын

@@gandalf2256 Me? I have two University degrees and three Tafe qualifications.. Enjoy your 70k a year dream job requiring perfect grammar whilst everyone else scoots ahead..

@gooble69

8 ай бұрын

@@gandalf2256 Congratulations on proving his point while being completely oblivious to the hole you just put yourself in. Wherever you got your education, I'd be asking for my money back...

@gooble69

8 ай бұрын

I actually did and Mechanical Engineering Certificate that led to an Engineering degree. I much preferred TAFE because our teacher was a former Mechanical Engineer who gave real world examples and stories from his career which made everything more real. The other part was that as part of the cert we had to learn to do metalwork and weld etc so it's wasn't just theory. the equations were field tested by us. Once we got to Uni it was just full of life long students who had become lecturers and professors who only knew the book and never had a real job. If I had my time again I wouldn't have bothered with the Uni part.

University Degrees were highly valued and valuable when Oz had Manufacturing and Scientific Research Industries. And before you start feeling too smug at the Tradesperson level. This is also a fading field. If nothing is manufactured here, you can guarantee that it will be designed and manufactured as a modular unit overseas to be assembled by Unskilled Labour once it arrives here. If you are Unskilled or Semi Skilled Labour you won't have the written Qualifications to be able to argue that your Semi Skills are Valuable and deserve a Living Wage. If you don't believe me, check out how Trickle Down Economics works in the 3rd World.

This is hilarious. Ive done both and watching this is like watching the two halves of my brain trying to hold a convo 😂

So, the TAFE guy FIXES the mistakes the Uni guy designed 😂

@damongirl66

8 ай бұрын

Seems like a sound symbiotic arrangement.

@sir.benzerlot4571

8 ай бұрын

Nah repairs

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

The majority of my uni classmates are all dumb as rocks and im honestly surprised they are surviving an engineering degree. No surprise about the horrible designs, but most cases the designs might still look tedious despite who made it, you gotta keep in mind that engineers tend to see the design and design only.

@user-iy4vg7kt6k

2 ай бұрын

basically, but without the uni guy there would never be mistakes to fix

As one who has both University and trade and Tafe qualifications this is huge. I worked like a dog for both at the same time. I learnt more at Tafe than uni and the apprenticeship payed for the uni. Today having been an employer, manafacture , business owner and import exporter of Australian products I would employ the Tafe student. Today at age 51 I'm semi retired and for years pick n choose what my grounded trade options I take on. Kids get a trade .

@rainbowtrout75

8 ай бұрын

Uni kills brain cells- thats the overall problem with society

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

What? no way would an electrician at Tafe learn more than a electrical engineer??? The maths for example. Well i can easily see it if you were talking about a non-STEM degree, that looks like the most braindead sh*t i've seen.

I remember having to drive down to UOW after my day at Granville Tafe to help my sister move a mattress, cabinet and bed frame out of her dorm. The looks I got from the students there when I rocked up in my high vis, slides and Edgewater Homes hat (covered all in dried up mud, you know, bricklaying) were as if I had horns growing out my head. You definitely get looked down on by Uni students but as Shak pointed out, they’re spending another 4-8 years of education to struggle to get work plus being hexed up to the eyeballs in debt while we only do 4 years and afterwards we’ll be making more cash than they ever will. Love the vids brah, keep ‘em coming! ❤️🫡

@coconutplantfish4463

9 ай бұрын

bro i just went to granville campus last friday das crazy coincedence

@BigToezCA

9 ай бұрын

Good old Granville TAFE 😂😂😂 I’m a qualified brickie from there

@Willy2Plays

9 ай бұрын

Bruh you’re a brick layer you ain’t gonna be making more money than the majority of people studying after they finish uni

@JohnSmith-rr3jt

9 ай бұрын

Really only applies to academi degrees (aka useless ones)

@TopherWardy

9 ай бұрын

​@Willy2Plays Ha....yes he will!

4:36 As someone who went to both TAFE guy is spitting facts 😂👌

As a diesel fitter who went back and did mech eng I find this hilarious, but also reminded of the needless pretentiousness of uni students😂

@vanessaland5090

8 ай бұрын

haha are uni students pretentious? Mine were so chill.

@avivabillington5514

8 ай бұрын

😊💯👍 University students may pay more than TAFE students,but if they finish their course they can still get into a career too

@ultimobile

8 ай бұрын

@@avivabillington5514last I looked tradies were easily earning $200Kpa while many uni students surviving on part-time jobs were almost homeless and unable to pay the rent.

When a University student meets a Tafe student, it's like a high-end sports car meeting a reliable old van - they may have different engines, but they both know how to get from point A to point B with style!

@ZahdShah

9 ай бұрын

More like a prius meets a reliable van. The sports car belongs to the entrepreneurs

@thejukeytp7131

9 ай бұрын

technically the uni student should be the van since their broke students and the tafe students are modified 4x4s

@STXNCIC

9 ай бұрын

​@@ZahdShah Yes, it's impossible for a university student to afford a $300k+ sports car before the age of 25, no matter which field they choose. Owning a sports car over the age of 25 is unimpressive by today's standards.

@johnlocke4715

8 ай бұрын

A high end sports car meets a reliable old van? You can’t be serious..

@ultimobile

8 ай бұрын

@@johnlocke4715 high end sports car like my friend's Ferrari that's been in the repair shop for many months because they can't get the parts - looks good, great potential, pity it's not working right now, and pity about the Money !

Nice stuff Bro, quality work as always! You see, what I’m doing is spending a couple years at tafe to get my cert 3, 4, and diploma whilst getting hands on experience, then use up all those credits to not only got to university, but also for a shorter period of time, and I’ll have a job in my field beforehand. I just think this will help make the most out of my time whilst paying less money :)

@geralinegreer9484

8 ай бұрын

Well done that's what I wish I had done looking back! All the best 😊

46, went to TAFE after high school, pretty much been working since, debt free & financially independent. Friend got a Doctorate in English Literature and still lives with his parents.

@TheSmoothViewASMR

9 ай бұрын

Who tf gets a masters in "English Literature" 😂 like what's the use?

@sspah6870

8 ай бұрын

@@TheSmoothViewASMR I don't know, maybe journalism, could become a critique of some sort, author, there are some possiblities I suppose. Could help for teaching.

So I did my plumbing apprenticeship at TAFE back in 2013 and now I’m in my third year of accounting at uni. I prefer neither of them.

@iamthinking2252_

9 ай бұрын

The neutral take that really just doesn’t fly in the comments of this video

@c.d.c9425

9 ай бұрын

Based. Work is work at the end of the day

Ive been a qualified lv mechanic for 20 yrs and i still laugh at some of the people that went through uni for qualifications that dont have availability in the current market. I also plan on doing some night classes in the future to get the qualifications necessary to become a Tafe lecturer in my field. There's pros and cons either way after high school but if you pick either of these 2 choices, you'll be way in front of anyone who just takes a retail job. Good luck to all when leaving school and put the effort in now . Trust me ,its well worth it. Cheers shak!

Bogans Unite

lmao basically virgin soy uni student vs high test tafe chad 😎

Always ger so hyped for the weekly uploads, keep it up Shak, solids vids mate 👌

I mean the tafe student kinda right 4 years of study to get a piece of paper 😂

Wait until you want to buy a house...Then the crying really starts.

he's always the L.E.G.E.N.D at skit's

Next Vid Idea: Swimming At School:

meanwhile the uni student is unemployed and the tafe student is on $1600 a week

To be fair, most apprentices will be in debt $60k anyway once they buy a brand new ranger on their $20 an hour wage xD

so relatable, keep up the funny content

Man when shacks videos come out every Monday it makes everything better

Fuck, I feel like this is my own inner monologue tbh. Fell into the trap of going to uni just because I did well in high school. At the end of my second year now and I feel like I've learnt jack shit, and all just to end up at some shithouse office job at a desk 24/7. I'm really considering picking up a TAFE course or an apprenticeship of something and actually getting some hands on skills where I can actually be up and about doing real work. The whole uni environment just feels so pretentious. Too much for my Povo Western Melbourne brain

@izabelaR

8 ай бұрын

Maybe do a pros & cons list for either thing. Hope you figure it out.

@davidtaylor6124

8 ай бұрын

I'm guessing you're young. You're halfway though so why not stick it out and then go to TAFE? Best of both worlds.

@Tmate4444

8 ай бұрын

Do it bro fr. Don't get in any more debt especially if you're already dreading what comes next. Physical labour is underrated AF. I went to uni, got in to a shitload of debt that just keeps increasing because of the insane inflation (everything I paid off just got added back on last year due to inflation and it's back where it started). I just started manual labour type work and make more money than I did in the previous work using my degree, and I'm more satisfied, getting to be outside frequently, and not tied down in a room all day, and getting physical exercise.

@komphatak3395

8 ай бұрын

You can always do both, uni and then tafe...maybe avoid doing masters 😊

Love you Shak!!! I'm sharing this video to everyone! You inspire me!

Wouldnt believe how true this is, im an industrial sparky and its pretty often that i have to tell the engineer im working for that stuff needs to change to work at all or work better, dunno what the heck they teach em at Uni but is sure isnt experience

@syrus1233

9 ай бұрын

Yeah im a battery technican and work with industrial sparkys, thinking of doing and electrical engineering degree becauser i have hands on experince on the tools. Lots of these engineers don't know what possible in reality they only know throey. How is being a sparky im thinking its gonna destory my body by the time im 40

You're completely spot on with this Shak. (Even though you're an educated man yourself.) I'm an old tradie. I started with one trade, getting paid to learn from the first day, and now I have 4 of them under my belt. I can do a lot of other things as well. That gives me versatility when the economy goes wonky. If you were to go to Uni, a STEM course would be the way to go. Underwater basket weaving degrees don't tend to have any jobs waiting for you when you graduate with a huge loan to pay back. I've ALWAYS had a job anywhere I've been in Australia and have owned 2 houses outright without a mortgage. I would definitely recommend trades for men, and girls if they WANT to do the work.

@valentine0221

9 ай бұрын

Hey mate what all trades have you worked/working in? Cheers

@bossdog1480

9 ай бұрын

Painter, Tiling, Gyprock and Carpentry. More work than I can handle.@@valentine0221

@Tmate4444

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say STEM is necessarily the way to go. Specific courses are good, but many are oversaturated. Doctor and veterinary medicine and IT fields are very well paying and easy to get a job. Other than that I can't think of much else that it's worth paying for uni for.

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

I agree, if you wanna make big bucks seems like the business side of things is the only way. The only difference between a uni student and a tafe student is the potentially in the business they run. It'll be pretty hard for a tafe student to end up running a semiconductor fab lol. In my opinion if you were to go into uni expecting to make big bucks and then sit a single job for 20+ years doing nothing... why bother going to uni?

@bossdog1480

4 ай бұрын

@@valentine0221 Painting, Tiling, Carpentry and Gyprock. (Drywall).

As a mature aged apprentice currently attending Tafe... after dropping out in year 10, trying tertiary to finish... this had me absolutely DEAD 😂😂😂💀❤️

"I fix the car, and you write essays about it" That statement is 100% accurate, and then the Uni student is going to spend the next 10+ years paying off student debt😂😂😂.

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

for a non stem major sure, mechanical and electrical... really any engineering degree would get that debt out of the way pretty fast and secure a 70-120k salary job as a graduate (mainly mechanical and electrical). Take a look at most CEOs', they all have bachelors or masters in the field they are in.

@Triple_A_679

4 ай бұрын

​@@OMGLittleB Unfortunately, the dream of becoming a CEO is overshadowed by the harsh reality for many who have realized that accumulating debt for a seemingly promising degree leads to a futile outcome. Many individuals, including myself as an Electrical Engineer, have been compelled to transition into roles like Computer Science to secure higher salaries for faster debt repayment. It's essential to confront this truth and reassess the statistics, acknowledging the widespread challenges faced by those navigating the complexities of higher education and its financial implications. However, it's important to recognize that this path may not be suitable for everyone, and alternative routes to financial stability should be explored and supported.

@Triple_A_679

4 ай бұрын

@@OMGLittleB that's funny, most CEO's nowadays of big Telco company or Airlines do not even have a qualifications from the related field, they more like came from business environment, Warehouse Team Leaders and Managers are getting that same salaries you've mentioned which is dwarf in amount that a licensed sparky make🤣🤣, I was an EE major who switched to Computer Science on the 2nd year, the salary isn't worth wrecking your brains for 4 years or getting into ridiculous amount of debt for.

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

@@Triple_A_679 Ridiculous debt that takes 3 years to pay off isn't ridicules. An electrician 1st year fully qualified will make less than an EE if domestic compared to 1st year graduate, industry is around 100-100k, the only way a 1-2 year fully qualified electrician is making 150-200k would depends on the site, industry, night shift, long hours, OT and site allowance. Now compare a self employed EE to a self employed electrician. I would like to see an Electrician open a chip fab.

@Triple_A_679

4 ай бұрын

@@OMGLittleB I'm not sure what world you live in, Graduate EE are not earning that much 🤣🤣🤣, stop the 🧢🧢.

hahhaha so good, i remember one time when I told someone I was studying at tafe they turned away from me and instantly started talking to someone else

@timmehh89

9 ай бұрын

I’d count that as a blessing

Thanks for making me happy when im sick helps a lot!

you're so good at skits i love your stuff mate 💪

shak never disappoints

such a realistic conversation i love it!

Shak your the best mate! You’re so funny, couldn’t get any more Australian. Keep it mate! 🦘🇦🇺❤️

As a Uni student that previously did TAFE, this is 100% accurate. I’ve heard a bunch of people refer to their diplomas as degrees and when you tell them it’s different they’re adamant it’s the same thing. It isn’t. It’s not even close

@aaronfitzgerald9109

9 ай бұрын

I'm an electrician, yet one of my mates is an electrical engineer, yet can't explain to my apprentice the fundamentals of AC theory... yet often he gets it wrong when he does explain it, yet he now works for a firm on $48 per hour as an EE, I get $90 as a shift sparky and have no debt.... go figure

@gooblewoobles3686

9 ай бұрын

@@aaronfitzgerald9109 yet yet yet yet yet

@mmredfs361

9 ай бұрын

@@aaronfitzgerald9109 also an electrician, you just have to humour the engineers. they are just there to sign off ITRs and write up test sheets mostly. 3 indian engineers crowded around a megger trying to figure out how to work it then asking us to show them was fucking hilarious

@bushpigtrent

9 ай бұрын

If they did their 'degrees' back home, then I don't think they are actually engineers. Probably technologists or technicians at best.

@davidbwn

8 ай бұрын

As a former TAFE student with Associate Diploma 100% accurate.

Ive done both tafe and uni, prefer the tafe people but I am grateful for the education I’ve received at uni and they have much better access to facilities. I consider myself very privileged to have the chance to go to uni at all since I dropped out in year 7 due to medical reasons.

@ht8286

8 ай бұрын

Who cares about quality of facilities!!

@Okayletsg0

8 ай бұрын

@@ht8286 im an art wanker so it matters for me to have access to big ovens for the clay and shit like that, but you’re right the people matter more than anything else :)

"This dudes a gangster? His real names Clarence"

The punching a cone in the morning is too accurate

been a tradie and also doing my masters... lets just say you're bang on the money with this bro lmao

Ill never understand why people look down on Tafe, You're pretty much getting the same certificate/degree, working while you study + get paid ontop of that while learning, and you're not in crippling debt by like 30k.

Man you could do such a refined, nuanced version of this skit that would ultimately destroy the majority of uni students.

I relate so hard to the crying at the end over debt 😭😂

As a uni student. This is way too accurate

When I was in highschool back in 2005. I wish they promoted or at least mentioned TAFE or trades... All the teachers just pushed Uni. It was always "Go to uni, get a degree and be successful! If you don't go to uni you'll struggle in life." I didn't go to uni and didn't do a trade (wish I did) and went straight to work. I'm not struggling, but would really have loved to have a life skill under my belt.

@nabilion

8 ай бұрын

This comment^

this is the best way to sum up uni vs tafe

TAFE definitely love your videos bro keep up the awesome content 👍

As a uni grad from 15 years ago, I can confirm the student loan is a bit rough. However, I paid mine off after a couple of years work. The reward for picking a higher paid career certainly pays off.

@jackl4739

8 ай бұрын

Student loan is finished , the next loan is continuing that is property,..

@ephemera...

8 ай бұрын

That was 15 years ago.

@spathi3309

8 ай бұрын

You know, after I watched this, I went and asked some of the new uni grads where I work about their studfent loans. Not something you ask every day. Their loans are three times more than what I paid 15 years ago. Thats just crazy.@@ephemera...

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

@@ephemera... it's still the same, an engineering degree could be payed off after a few years of work, i can't speak on other fields.

i come back and rewatch this every few months for pure enjoyment

Did an aircraft engineering apprenticeship with Qantas and studied at Tafe, we had some pretty smart blokes and no yobbos in our year...although the aircraft sheet metal guys would disappear when the surf was up.

This should be titled: 'Person meets a ute driver in a VB hat.'

J dog, raw dog 😂😂😂

As someone who's been to both TAFE and Uni, for IT related degree/diploma, I found I learned far more at TAFE than Uni. It's hands on at TAFE so we were always in front of a computer, instead of listening to a lecturer drone on about theory.

😂😂 I can relate to this at work, working with some of the uni part time students.

Going to university was the worst financial decision of my life lol

I watching this at 3 am and it’s a school night I gotta wake up at 5 I’m in Florida your videos are keeping me awake lol keep it up man

When the ego is broken down by a simple persistent question.

Love your content funny Af

That was gold 😂

This argument always makes laugh, it’s not all about the end result. If you are genuinely fascinated by what it is you’re studying, especially the science, physics behind it the experience is extremely rewarding. Your career is whatever you make it but those 4 years of pushing myself to the limit academically, genuinely loving what I was learning every day was irreplaceable.

@noahsibahi-jackson8757

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely, people need to understand that money while important is not the overarching objective of a fulfilling life. It is simply a tool to furthering a fulfilling life towards an endeavour you are truly passionate in. People have fallen out of balance and have lost sight of what really matters

@SimpPro101

9 ай бұрын

Found the uni student

@jamesarobertson4299

9 ай бұрын

Dork

@burnt2951

9 ай бұрын

alright mate keep ya cock down its just a skit

@mmredfs361

9 ай бұрын

it's about the employment no one gives a fk about 'what you learn'. this is sounds like some cope. I can learn anything a uni will teach quicker, cheaper and easier on the internet. the only reason you pay all that money is for the piece of paper in the hope of gaining employment in a specific field.

I like how it started off as a knock on TAFE, only to eventually hit hard on University. As someone who went to TAFE, I got a degree after a few years and still don't know nearly enough of what I studied for!

Dropped out in Yr 10 (1996), spent 15+ years drilling water bores/ exploration/ coal seam gas, made 210k for 5 months work a year; went to Uni, became an RN, have 20k in HECS & barely make 90k a year.

I had a cert iv at the time and someone came up to receive food crisis donations and she told me she had a masters from Melbourne uni and cant find work. That made the choice for me to quit uni early on.

All the tradies come back to study engineering at uni in there thirties as mature age students because their bodies can't take it anymore

@Me-xoxoz

9 ай бұрын

Amen amen .That is one of the cons of trade ,your body will get tired at some point of getting under cars/truck, crawling in confined spaces etc.

@publiclanddeerhunter

9 ай бұрын

35year old here doing a mature age Arborist apprenticeship,you never hear of people my age going back to Uni after obtaining a trade. If anything they start their own business in their chosen trade,having people work for them doing the physical labour whilst working 3 days a week & own 3+ investment properties.

@wheres_bears1378

8 ай бұрын

The tradies I know just expand and move into project management in their own businesses

Love your vids, so funny.

Aaaah! Shak, the reason mondays feel good

The best 🔥😂

Of my group of mates from high school 3 of them went to University. Thought it made them something special aswell. These days i out earn all 3 of them put together 😂 shout out to tafe aye 😂

@thecountysfinest

9 ай бұрын

@@Your_neighbour33 ones an accountant some kinda specialised one but I can't remember, one's an investment banker other's a marine biologist (his jobs actually pretty cool). I own a scaffolding company.

@thecountysfinest

9 ай бұрын

@@Your_neighbour33 100 percent start a tafe course just a bonus when you ask but go for the apprenticeship Asap and once that's done start a business once again Asap. Stay on that path you'll end up the guy that hire's my company (they make stupid money)

@syrus1233

9 ай бұрын

if its ur passion yes but carpenter pay is averaerge@@Your_neighbour33

All uni students learn the lesson...Their smugness comes back to bite them as they struggle to find a job, wile the mechanic is on a six figure sum by his early twenties!

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH SHAK! I wanna be like you one day!

Excellent videos! Always puts an 😁on our faces. I have to go with this one: 5:04 (Tafe)

You’re my favourite KZreadr

@ShakTV

9 ай бұрын

🙏

Love it man ❤

20 year old me talking to 30 year old me. Good onya Shak, funny video, as per usual 😁

The bloke from Tafe will end up wealthier than the Uni student.

@marks2997

9 ай бұрын

By some margin.

@jatt-jatt-jatt3181

9 ай бұрын

tradies make shit ton of money with good advertising@@marks2997

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

depends, if the tafe student goes self emplyed sure, but if a uni student goes self employed, the tafe self employed would never make as much. People that have degrees seem to think that they don't need to run a business because they have a degree and they'll just find a 300k job a few years down the line.

this didnt end the way I thought it would & im pleasantly surprised

Shak great content keep it up makes my day

@Jezzacameronsbiggestfan

9 ай бұрын

UP THE GIANTS 2024 PREMIERS BABY. F THE BLUES

@mrblackguy6336

9 ай бұрын

@@Jezzacameronsbiggestfan😐

This mindset is killing Australian innovations. Scientists, engineers, Doctors, they are the building blocks of modern hi tech society.

@user-ce9xe1qe8i

9 ай бұрын

It's one of the worst parts of our society

@KC-dw6yz

9 ай бұрын

What do you expect? You can't blame people for wanting a good life and stable employment. The Australian government chops and changes research direction every three years or whenever the next election is, science is underfunded for a developed country, and if you're a scientist here you don't know what or where your next gig is.

@bushpigtrent

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, lazy easy life mindset will come back and bite!

I know this is comedy, but it is so true! I have a Masters Degree, huge debt and no job because I need experience to get a job. You're way better off going to TAFE.

There's an Advanced Diploma of Electrical Engineering that is FREE at TAFE that takes 2 years to complete. 2 year diploma + zero debt + 2 years work experience + 200k gross earnings *vs* 4 year engineering degree + $60,000 debt + 0 work experience + 0 gross earnings An *Advanced Diploma is AQF Level 6* whereas a *Bachelor Degree is AQF Level 7* so quite often they are interchangeable for job roles. Given the changing job market and AI era we're in, I think the Diploma's make sense.

@fablearchitect7645

9 ай бұрын

Engineering Bachelor Degrees are 3 years not 4. 4 year engineering degrees are a Bachelor Honours Degree which is AQF level 8

@Waywind420

9 ай бұрын

​@@fablearchitect7645 How much debt are you in bro

@OMGLittleB

4 ай бұрын

But an engineering degree will allow you to work in any field and any place, get a degree in either physics, EE, mechanical or chemical and you have infinite job opportunities no matter where you are.

CRAZY CONTENT MAN! , Been watching you for over 2 years now, keep up the quality content

@ShakTV

9 ай бұрын

ohhhhhh crazzzyyyy mannn aprreciate it lad

@BerskiTV

9 ай бұрын

​@@ShakTV ​Noooee Probemm ayee mann! CRazyyy aye mannnn i'm doing speed rn man crazyyyy

Damn you never miss on any of your videos, this shi funny 😭😭❤️

Gonna be heading to Uni in a couple years

@ShakTV

9 ай бұрын

good luck! hope ya smash it!

@DeanDoesMapping

9 ай бұрын

@@ShakTV Cheers Mate. You’re contents been carrying me through high school and it’ll no doubt do the same during Uni