It was so sad and unacceptable that no one would listen to her husband’s concerns and take them seriously.

@andrew_boles

2 ай бұрын

Yes, it's very sad. Men don't seem to be taken seriously anymore.

@DraxXThanos

2 ай бұрын

yeah and see how they fell for that self defense story?

@andrew_boles

2 ай бұрын

@@DraxXThanos Exactly

@seanbutler8818

2 ай бұрын

Welcome to a man’s world.

@ethanogle9088

2 ай бұрын

I agree COMPLETELY! :/ it really is sad..

when that cop said "how does she pose a threat to the children" , I hope he remembers those words forever, especially since he didn't support the father's concern.

@mimimomo4902

2 ай бұрын

He asked it AFTER Charles already told him that she had lost her mind.

@foreverblessed3511

2 ай бұрын

@@mimimomo4902 why put after in capitals? your statement makes what @pickleAllergy says even more valid? ??? ??????? seems like you didnt understand the comment (even tho its simple) and then wanted to correct someone? even tho your confused? just tired of shit like this

@mimimomo4902

2 ай бұрын

@foreverblessed3511 are you ok? The reason why I put "after" in capital is to highlight that the officer had the audacity to ask him about what threat she poses despite Charles telling him that she had lost her mind. You clearly didn't understand my comment. Next time, just ask politely

@rockyBalboa6699

2 ай бұрын

Either that cop is laughing or crying for the rest of his miserable life! These people are paid to ignore threats to human life yet you are forbidden to even defend yourself!

@edosiookeoghene2955

2 ай бұрын

@@mimimomo4902pls are you Nigerian 😂. The are you ok part is to familiar

Took 3 years and like 4 deaths. For justice upon something that her husband directly told law enforcement was happening

@shaggysmokes5193

28 күн бұрын

@@waaaah5305 it’s really come to this. Women’s stories are always valued and taken into consideration more than the man’s. It’s crazy how easily women can manipulate law enforcement to take their side even when they are the shit stirrer. Through my parents divorce I learned that pretty quick

@stevenfoster4066

24 күн бұрын

Our system of governing is ASANINE

@Josh_you_uh

23 күн бұрын

Women get even lighter sentences in every situation…even the pedo ones.

@jarlwhiterun7478

11 күн бұрын

The public wanted an investigation when they first heard about the husbands death and the dudes ex wife dead with "natural causes"

@rayelee1301

11 күн бұрын

but, the patriarchy, amirite?

The husband clearly said that this woman was CRAZY, but the cops just ignored him pretty much 🤦

@randallsmerna384

Ай бұрын

Fathers and husbands are universally disregarded and demonized!

@hr-hq8ji

25 күн бұрын

Being crazy isn’t a crime. But it does call for intervention and they failed that family !

@bamboakinropo4261

23 күн бұрын

@@hr-hq8ji Well look what happened

@TheBlazersfan22

23 күн бұрын

Well if you are black it is. White women being crazy can get away with anything.

@TekkLuthor

21 күн бұрын

Because she's attractive to them

disgusting, everyone failed this man, Rest in peace Charles.

@Queenofthegingers

2 ай бұрын

Everyone failed this man and his children.

@nTrubl3

2 ай бұрын

Peace*

@bradleye660

Ай бұрын

He seemed like a good man who wanted his boys back. 😔 Rest in peace, Charles.

@metamorphicme9378

22 күн бұрын

Heartbreakingly so! Men are so rarely believed, it's a shame.

@Sun--

8 күн бұрын

Rest in peace charles

Wow! The legal system completely failed the husband and kids! Ffs!

@Btobebone

2 ай бұрын

that's what happens a lot of the time when the wife goes crazy. everything is so tilted in the woman's favor, cops could stop her from trying to throw her kids I to a woodchipper, arrest her, and the next court date would be like "OK, we can move to 50/50 custody"

@meghancass3187

2 ай бұрын

@@Btobebone Yep. Tragic but true.

@TowGunner

2 ай бұрын

The legal system consistently fails those it’s supposed to protect.

@rockyBalboa6699

2 ай бұрын

The funny thing is the DA only wanted to prosecute when the kids went missing not when the husband was killed! The justice system is neglecting innocent men!

@jamesethan3749

2 ай бұрын

US legal system has only one rule: ALWAYS BELIEVE THE MOM!

As an ex police officer, her interview threw up red flag after red flag. Laughing and joking when your husband just got shot dead in your home. The use of “whatever” instead of actually explaining something, and no follow up by the questioner. 🚩🚩🚩

@newsflash2691

Ай бұрын

"Fucking excuse right" 😮

@FreedomFighter215

Ай бұрын

Why did they not even bring this up? That was sinister as fuck. Thank you for your service 🫡

@nstew_art

28 күн бұрын

She doesn’t even seem traumatized by any of it during the interview. Red flag

@aboyd1988

26 күн бұрын

Her answers, particularly her behavior, were triggering...

@bobsbigboys

23 күн бұрын

Enough with the "blah, blah, blahs"....can the investigator get her to explain those please!!!!!

Her giggling during interview room. Like he wasn't just killed. No remorse.

@latonyalee7821

Ай бұрын

If that isn't some Psycho Sh*t, I don't know what is.

@MartinMMomchilov

7 күн бұрын

in fact that she smiled when talked about charles death, speaks that she was glad to say it and feels happy from it

“How does she pose a threat to your children” did you not just hear what he said?

@bekabeka71

2 ай бұрын

90% of people don’t listen

@Fat12219

2 ай бұрын

State lock 🔒 up 😂

@aliciamartinez3838

2 ай бұрын

I literally thought the same thing!!!

@kristiemiller8590

Ай бұрын

Right?!

@LordChrome375

Ай бұрын

That is not enough reason, sadly has Lori demonstrated, people lie. Police can't just go off what one person says without seeing the other person. Otherwise, we'd be back to Salim times. It didn't help that Charles stole her purse which didn't look good on him. Then somehow, she passed the mental eval (The fuck!?). Now I wanna know why they didn't investigate why he was shot on the ground, fucking crazy. And after the autopsy, why did nobody ask why it took them 45 minutes to call 911?

Poor guy he literally told EVERYONE that she'd threatened to murder him and they ignored him and she did it , just because she's a woman doesn't mean the threat is any less, those cops should be sued , the guy paid with his life for their apathy and indifference.

@Hollow-ys6wj

6 күн бұрын

It’s not like they could do anything tho they took her to a psych ward and she manipulated her way out by lying truly nothing they could have done

@tigerlancer

6 күн бұрын

On top of jj, Charles was trying to protect tylee too. tylee is such a tragic character. brainwashed since she was 3. Did her mother's bidding without question, partially responsible for at least 1 murder, maybe 2. It's hard to garner sympathy for her, yet I can't condemn her either. It just makes charles' death all the more tragic.

Charles in that video totally breaks my heart. He knew what was going on. The authorities appeared to NOT TAKE CHARLES SERIOUSLY.... God bless Charles RIP🙏

She saw her ex husband on the floor dead after getting shot and her first reaction was I gotta get JJ to school? like cmon this detective should’ve seen the lies from a mile away

@Dislob

2 ай бұрын

But she's an attractive woman. She gets a free pass right?

@bernelrichardson1752

2 ай бұрын

He is a male...aint no way a woman capable of doing wrong

@will-zj5gq

Ай бұрын

they just don’t make detectives like they use to.

@CultofThings

Ай бұрын

They overrely on their “gut” instinct.

@jeffpenney6489

Ай бұрын

They all failed this man. Terrible.

It's chilling listening to Charles literally detail how he would be murdered to a cop who could care less. Wow

@Ausgar-yc1yl

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it is not the job of the police to protect citizens from harm.

@haminjam

2 ай бұрын

@@Ausgar-yc1yl im sorry WHAT

@johntitorii6676

2 ай бұрын

@@Ausgar-yc1yl cop lady should be working at a coffee shop even there she would be evil

@Ausgar-yc1yl

2 ай бұрын

@@haminjam Police are NOT obligated protect citizens from harm, that is NOT their job, and NOT what protect and serve meant.

@Ausgar-yc1yl

2 ай бұрын

@@johntitorii6676 Agree!

That poor husband . I feel so bad he lost his life trying to save his kids. This is so sick.

This has to be the sloppiest police work omg 😳 Hit in the head with a bat?? Where’s the bruise??! This is crazy lol

@TheGrmany69

8 күн бұрын

That's what I say. These women can lie and they believe them.

It’s so tragic seeing her daughter vouch for her, not knowing that she was the next victim

@emmathebluebunny

2 ай бұрын

yea

@camron8839

2 ай бұрын

Sheep

@johntitorii6676

2 ай бұрын

I can see the evil in her eye

@johntitorii6676

2 ай бұрын

I'm also very successful poker player, I can read very well when ppl trying to take me for a ride

@arrivagabry

2 ай бұрын

If she had only told the truth at police instead of covering up for her mother, that same day she signed hers and JJ's death sentence.

That poor husband, firstly for marrying her and secondly for no police officer believing the real danger he informed them of. Its disgusting really.

@IzzyandLuna

Ай бұрын

that's how women feel constantly

@DarianEX

Ай бұрын

@@IzzyandLuna WOW. This is about a WOMAN killing a man, and having no one believe him. Which happens often, this is not about your insecurities.

@justadildeau

22 күн бұрын

Get help​@@IzzyandLuna

Those cops have Charles Vallow's blood on their hands. 100%.

@ofthemoon.

2 ай бұрын

Yes, they do :(

@saturninesmile9580

2 ай бұрын

No it's the hospitals. The cops took her after the commitment papers and she was in the station. The hospital let her go in 2 hrs. And custody is with the courts but dunno if he went there at all, even to petition for emergency custody. To everyone talking to her she seemed normal. We have hindsite. until she let her beliefs became known to those not in a close circle, she was a women going through a divorce with a man trying to make her look nuts. Esp since the daughter backed her. Words are words they don't have authority to do anything unless followed with actions. Which is unfortunate.

@ZeranZeran

2 ай бұрын

@@saturninesmile9580 It's definitely the cops too

@fareemvenosa3774

2 ай бұрын

​@saturninesmile9580 I'm guessing the fact she giggled all the way through the interview (after her husbands death) - I guess that went right over your head,,huh ?

@cobaltjay9862

Ай бұрын

@@saturninesmile9580the cops didn’t even want to entertain the possibility that she was in the wrong, watch the initial interrogation of her brother, herself, and the daughter, the story was so inconsistent and they just wrote it off as self defense

BRO!!!!!! If your wife is part of a cult, leave her immediately and save your kids, don't wait five years!!!!!!

@joshlewis575

23 күн бұрын

Fuck yes! If you've gotten lured into a cult, you've lost your mind 100% of the time. This one she got caught up in sounds extra stupid, too. Baffling people will listen to some randos delusions and wholeheartedly believe in them too.

@TRB4008

23 күн бұрын

@@joshlewis575 In all honesty I studied mythology for six years, and although I'm into AI and robots nowadays, I can say with confidence that joining a cult is the stupidest thing ever, because once you go to Hell, I can guarantee it won't be worth it, that's why I'm a Christian.

We failed Charles and those beautiful babies. Failed. Just absolutely failed.

This case has always frustrated me. They always believe the “pretty blonde bubbly lady” if she’s charming enough and this cost 3 people’s lives. It’s disgusting. People need to start listening to sincere cries for help. The scariest part is this brother person was brainwashed as well. Chad Daybell was one hell of a predator on weak minded people.

@HumanityInCrisis

2 ай бұрын

She wanted famé and pomp he wanted à blonde but not the dead weight. They both were not brain washed just pure evil and selfish, using religion as a should for their corruption

@bernieheartdragon1888

2 ай бұрын

That’s why Karens are dangerous.

@davidu01

2 ай бұрын

​@@bernieheartdragon1888- that has nothing to do with any named "Karen".. don't adulterize a decent name.

@maplejakee

2 ай бұрын

@@davidu01 it's a horrible name

@Alexfrfr

2 ай бұрын

@@davidu01Karen is a horrible name lmao

The problem about society will just label a woman as a victim automatically, and the man as an aggressor/suspect, You could tell that man was distraught during his first and second questioning with the police.

@JohnnyBoyBlues

2 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Kigoz4Life

2 ай бұрын

Was there proof he actully hit her brother in the head with the bat? Any bruises?

@agentrex_adventures

2 ай бұрын

I'm more mad that the "professionals" who deemed Lori as fine. So many "professionals" do this that I question what it takes to actually be licensed.

@Benji-zv5ev

2 ай бұрын

Facts!

@Devil-Made

2 ай бұрын

I hate this happened. It breaks my heart. No one is perfect, but he seemed genuinely concerned and, well, terrified. But no one took him seriously. Not one. Sure, some of the police were probably sympathetic, but had the roles been reversed you can imagine the lengths police would’ve gone to. Here there was none of that. At most it was an attitude of, “that sucks man, good luck.” Men are disposable these days. We’ve always been disposable, but it’s getting worse. This isn’t equality. This is shameful.

Its so sad that he warned the police that she was going to kill him and that she was a threat to their kids too, and they didn't listen. He tried to get their help 3 times and all that was done was the mental health evaluation from lori.

R.I.P Charles. People never believe in a MAN. These Cops never believed Charles and insulted him in his face 😢

Those detectives were gullible. The woman kept laughing as she described how her husband was killed. He grabbed a bat from his stepdaughter to stop her from hitting him, and then he’s grabbed from behind from an uncle who is fighting him. Then uncle gets a gun from upstairs, comes downstairs and kills him and it’s selfdefense.

@reapertypemoon8464

2 ай бұрын

Yeah and the uncle even told a different story. He said he walked in and saw Charles with the bat and didn’t do anything and went to go get his gun... Yet the girls said he came in and put him in a chokehold

@Techuser704

Ай бұрын

I dont know but I felt something off about all this. Like weird and illogical ,the women also belonged to a cult didnt she? It was like everything had some type of interference. I mean what if all the cops and the people in that town were actually cult members? The husband used to go for long business trips so he didnot got affected.

@jurj97

Ай бұрын

​@@Techuser704this isn't a creepypasta, homie

@Techuser704

Ай бұрын

@@jurj97 idk this stuff happens in irl creepypasta are inspired from real life afterall

@jenniferpierce8087

Ай бұрын

The doctor who passed her on a mental evaluation should be held accountable too.

Is the "doctor" going to be evaluated for his incompetence?

@haminjam

2 ай бұрын

i didnt think about that

@matfax

2 ай бұрын

Of course not. They never are.

@justsaying4313

2 ай бұрын

22:51 to 22:54 vibrations. They use gaateewaay process. *It is very dangerous, so do not try it even if you can*

@justsaying4313

2 ай бұрын

They are not crazy. Evil spirit deceive them

@pick2206

2 ай бұрын

she can act normal if she wants, the doctor saw what she wanted him to see, not the doctors fault she's a good liar

One thing I've discovered is that it's very hard, if not impossible, for psycopathic people to fake empathy. They can cry, but ONLY for themselves, never for others. When someone like this is in good spirits directly after the death of someone close to them, it's only because they are not caught yet. Once they are caught, the tears will come, but never before.

Whats creepy is how emotionless lori is and daughter.

If the roles were reversed and the wife was expressing her concerns to the police about the husband, this whole situation would have gone differently. The wife is clearly a complete psychopath. How can you believe someone who uses the word "Whatever" to describe everything?

@meghancass3187

2 ай бұрын

Thank you. Finally.

@mikewhite3123

2 ай бұрын

Facts... As many times as he had to call them to enforce court orders,she should have been arrested every time she didn't comply with the order... Then they extort the man about her purse and then they'll enforce the 5150,just ridiculous... He's the only one with court evidence to back up what he says,and her having zero calls to police about him supposedly being violent .. women who have violent husbands always call the cops at least once,even if they're dumb enough to stay...

@CounterSniper67

2 ай бұрын

@@mikewhite3123 Yup, weird how the cops tell him he can't take her purse yet she openly bragged about locking him out of his own home and taking all of his stuff, including his car. wtf.

@hucklebuckchuck7218

2 ай бұрын

Literally, everybody involved in this case could still be alive, but due to negligence stupid people who work for the police and the courts three people are already dead. The brother killed himself, because he knew that he was going to jail for life and Laurie and that guy are going to go to jail for life like it’s very obvious that the shooting wasn’t in self-defense as far as the brother goes. He literally ran into a room, then ran back out and then shot Charles, that’s not self-defense

@2011blueman

2 ай бұрын

And she was giggling throughout the interview. Remember the context, her husband had just been murdered in front of her by her brother, after which she just takes the kids to school. She's so nonchalant in telling the story and casually giggling throughout the interview thati's supper creepy and abnormal behavior for that situation. She has no signs of shock, or grief, or any emotion really. It's a true textbook example of a psychopath and instead of recognizing the behavior as strange the detective was charmed by her.

Shame on the detectives. They are a disgrace to America

@KrisPBacon-ts6vp

2 ай бұрын

Imagine how many murderers have gotten away

@BlaqueHaze

2 ай бұрын

Disgrace to the human race.

@tiswhatitis137

Ай бұрын

​@@KrisPBacon-ts6vpMany. Imagine how many there were before the technology to catch them.

That teddy bear is stone cold. It doesn't even twitch a muscle during the whole interrigation.

this channel is amazing! it is like a new versions of medical detectives

14 year marriage and this woman is smiling and acting giddy after dude is killed. Zero remorse, zero empathy for the kids. Psycho.

@KenKaniff-dw4jw

Ай бұрын

And cops don't see she lying

@ChiefMiddleFinger

Ай бұрын

If you know, you know.

Those AZ Cops have Charles and the kids blood on their hands! If they had believed him or tried to help him, maybe those kids and Tammy and Charles would still be alive. Men need domestic protection too. In fact Charles family should sue the department. Absolutely.

@reginagilby1101

2 ай бұрын

And the doctor who released her in two hours

@ACVRG1

2 ай бұрын

Chandler and Mesa PD are notorious for being some of the shittiest departments in Arizona

@PickleAllergy

Ай бұрын

they have a small part in it not preventing it, yes. But in reality, that female and her psychopathic friends are responsible.

@patmurdie

Ай бұрын

I don’t think the cops are the problem. Lori and her convincing lies were the problem. My heart goes out to Charles, those beautiful kids and much later, to Tammy.

@yhonleilukyemyhonleilukyem2328

Ай бұрын

It's the duty of cops to investigate who's telling the truth and who's lying. Not just to Randomly pull over people on the STREETS in the name of traffic stopped or FALSE over speeding and make false accusations and Harrassed the innocent civilians. A HUGE FUC*K FOR THE AZ POLICE. LOL...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😢😢😢😢😢😂😂😂😂

The justice system failed her husband and kids.

Pissed beyond belief watching this, so sad man

I can’t believe this is true! Crazy lady! No one listened to the poor husband and now he and his children are dead!

@SRose-vp6ew

2 ай бұрын

She was crazy that she was listening to demons. Her husband said she was constantly talking to an angel. There are fallen angels. If the spirit you’re talking to is telling you to murder, lie, or that Jesus isn’t God or self harm is how you get to God your the one listening to demons and it’s literally the anti-Christ spirit that’s got you, but the person doesn’t need to die to have a demon cast out of them. But people absolutely can be demonized. The fruit of lies and murder show she was demonized and lacked faith that Jesus (Mark 16) would be enough.

@jamielehman4934

2 ай бұрын

I can't feel sorry for Tylee because you can tell she was initially in on Charles murder. But I do for JJ

@mrhamzah18

2 ай бұрын

Yes I see your point but she was only young and probably believed all the lies her mother had filled her head with. She managed to convince the police and a psychiatrist she was absolutely fine, no mention of her thinking she was a goddess and all the other crazy stuff! She didn’t deserve to be killed by her own mother. The whole story is just crazy!

@lauren88michelle

2 ай бұрын

@@jamielehman4934are you really victim blaming?? 😢

@heidismith3112

2 ай бұрын

My goodness what terrible replies . Lori and Chad are responsible for the deaths of two innocent children, her husband, Chad's wife, and her brother Alex Cox turned up dead as well when they didn't need him anymore. Saying you don't feel sorry for a murdered girl? What a worthless comment. Nobody needs your nonexistent sympathy. You should feel sorry for your empty self.

Cops treated him like he was crazy I blame law enforcement for his death and the children they were given multiple chances to intervene and did NOTHING. Just because you’re Incapable of understanding doesn’t mean it’s not to be taken seriously. Gilbert Police department should be held accountable 👍.

@braxtonvestal777

Ай бұрын

End qualified immunity this has been happening for years nothing ever changes thats the only chance for change.

@EE33339

Ай бұрын

@@braxtonvestal777 haven’t heard about that will definitely look into it!

Literally if one person listen to the husband three people including two children would still be alive, almost like the court system treats husbands/fathers as second rate citizens

@chrism9493

4 күн бұрын

He tells police that she thinks she’s a resurrected being and their next question is how could she be a danger to children, amazingly naive.

"you ain't my husband bruh. you're Nick Schneider" 🤣🤣

THE DOCTOR LET HER OUT AFTER AN EVALUATION, wtf kinda evaluation was that

@SoHappy1215

2 ай бұрын

Suburban mom eval. In my experience they are usually the most vile

@carmenm.478

Ай бұрын

Evaluation from hell!! Everyone failed Charles and the children. Because of shits and giggles.

@bradleye660

Ай бұрын

@SoHappy1215 No they’re not. The dark ones are usually the worst ones.

@dundergud9341

Ай бұрын

She was surely interviewed by a doctor, and if she didn't show signs of acute psychosis requiring immediate hospitalisation, then the only option would be to release her. Maybe they did find something but only wanted to follow up and treat, because she managed to hid the acute and extreme severity of it. Look at that first interview with the police when she has her daughter with her. She seems pretty normal there, doesn't she? If she was like that with the doctor, then that would be the answer why she wasn't forcibly hospitalised.

@meganod279

Ай бұрын

The thing is, we expect doctors to be able to understand someone who is a psychopath but the issue is, psychopaths are smart and manipulative. They can adjust in any situation and make it seem like they are the best and most innocent people.

Charles with his two kids would be alive today if the police would of taken his words seriously. A normal person would of looked into it.

It's very chilling during the interrogation of her how she laughed at four times during the just the small snippets that were shown

The worst part of this are the police and dectectives just not giving a crap. What a disgrace, Charles parents should sue them.

What a joke of a system we have 🤦‍♂️

@macdonaldibe4667

Ай бұрын

Towards men only.

She is literwlly making up the entire story in the interrogation room,and these cops just go "ok" lol

@kevinklassen4328

Ай бұрын

None of the stories of those 3 lined up. And why was her brother not charged with murder?

@Keeshiepooo

Ай бұрын

And the lady that comes in later tells them what the husband said and now it makes sense

She’s giggling while telling that her husband was on the ground

God the poor man is so stressed you can see it in his eyes poor man

Half of this country is crazy

@mandelltaylor1378

2 ай бұрын

Hell more than that

@AllergicToMakeBelieve

2 ай бұрын

Approximately 87%.

@jesperkleemann1333

2 ай бұрын

No! It is the half world that is crazy. I live in Scandinavia and it is the same here. The problem in modern society is that we give everybody a high education without measuring their IQ first, so we end up with people that have learned more than their IQ can deal with. Begining making cults, sekts, criminality, corruption, terrorism and all sort of shit, because they are wise but no IQ to fattom the consecvence of their actions. Have a positive and lucky future, I think we all will need it.

@Asoeee

2 ай бұрын

@@jesperkleemann1333 nothing lasts forever

@tomniebrzydowski3759

2 ай бұрын

Fox News and Trump have plenty of followers, I agree with you! Our country is crazy. I was a Republican for 25 years until this man took office. I wonder if this woman is an illegitimate offspring of Trump. Delusional.

There's a bunch of weirdos out there. Be safe y'all.

@jedimindtrick-pi8xe

2 ай бұрын

Yep and never ignore the red flags.

@Hoodicaat

2 ай бұрын

“Weirdo” is a heavy understatement

@bordstif84

2 ай бұрын

Especially those democrats.

@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman

2 ай бұрын

especially when you add religion into the mix

@rookere1604

2 ай бұрын

Especially in America with your religious freaks

She seems so happy and bubbly during the interview, even if she hated him, she just saw a dead body and isn’t traumatized at all?

@LonerwCheese

29 күн бұрын

i thought it simply being her husband is traumatizing.

She completely trashed Charles character and showed zero saddens over her husbands death

who is the doctor that "evaluated" Lori Vallow??? they need to find another line of work.

@babigirl9111

Ай бұрын

She probably gave perfectly reasonable answers. She knew what she was doing

@ShiftnWolf72

Ай бұрын

@@babigirl9111 indeed, sociopaths are good at manipulating people who don't know them

@MACSX7

Ай бұрын

@@babigirl9111facts, crazy doesn’t mean stupid

Men are abused and everyone turns a blind eye. This is heart wrenching, I can’t even finish it. I hope the sweet ladies in prison show her how evil she is.

@rcdudes3475

Ай бұрын

Trust me ik they believe anything they say. Had to move out

The guy who discharged Lori as mentally fit should also be charged.

The complete ineptitude of the police here is frankly staggering!

Those cops put a lot of words in their mouths.

@steiner554

2 ай бұрын

I noticed that as well. Even an "or don't you remember?" which is A HUGE no no.

@Johnsmith-rj5gt

2 ай бұрын

The cops due that to mentally disabled too

@bluefishjoe

2 ай бұрын

@@Johnsmith-rj5gt That’s just wrong.

@user-rz7vy7bh4i

2 ай бұрын

@@bluefishjoe not in “making a murderer” if you got a 65 IQ you’re easy to manipulate

Justice for Charles he seem like a good guy

@johntitorii6676

2 ай бұрын

No if he walked into a store you would yhink he is a bad guy

@pureniku

2 ай бұрын

@@johntitorii6676 no I wouldn’t

@MikeOxlong821

2 ай бұрын

​@@johntitorii6676why?

@anonymous_dot_com2326

2 ай бұрын

​@@johntitorii6676 you are weird

Rip to the dad and his little ones, may they be together in heaven forever ❤

Love how no one ever took this poor man seriously. Immediately accepting everything the wife said and blatantly disregarding every concern and statement the husband brought forward. Now, because of these ignorant cops, detectives, mental health institutes, and I'm sure plenty more, three innocent lives were lost and an actual lunatic was let free for long enough to take away those lives. Absolutely disgusting. I hope that this sticks with them all as they were absolutely three reason for it happening. This man did everything he could to protect the children and get his wife the help that she desperately needed. Instead they were all punished for the failure of all of these people. Beyond shameful and disgusting.

this is heartbreaking.. rest in peace, Charles...

The fact the woman showed no emotion what so ever was very telling.

Those cops should be held responsible ,for not taking his words serious ,this is so ridiculous 🤬

it always goes into the women’s way when it comes down to the father & his kids. those officers & law enforcement will remember that.

This felt like a Netflix documentary!! Beautifully done

@Maya_Pinion

2 ай бұрын

She watched too much " mother god"... Whoa

@sickinth3head

2 ай бұрын

😆

@Bill_Stranix

2 ай бұрын

More like an American soap.

@KayJayCrazy

2 ай бұрын

*Horrifying Secret season 2* only on Netflix. Stay tuned 🤣

@user-nu9de5nd1g

2 ай бұрын

I was about to say how much I love the intro. Amazing!

we tend to think of ppl who get into cults as victims but it seems like they also can be narcissists who believe they are better than everyone else, my heart and soul to the kids and their father

May all those who passed Rest In Peace beloved father and children. Blessings Be.

It's so unimaginable to think that someone that you loved was just shot dead on your living room floor and your first thought is to take your son to school???? WTF????

I kept thinking "oh the cult leader is gonna try to marry her" and YEP WHAT DO YOU KNOW

@howtocookazombie

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, he got rid of her husband and then the children, so he could have her just for himself.

@Evan_Morgan

2 ай бұрын

@@howtocookazombie classic

@apriljk6557

2 ай бұрын

​@@howtocookazombie they left out that he took out his own wife at the time too.

@judesunday146

2 ай бұрын

this fake preachers don't ever bring them to your family.

@bandito241

2 ай бұрын

@@judesunday146that was your legit average preacher.

Why is she smiling and laughing!. No specifics on the alleged husbands behaviour over the years…just “whatever..” so takes kids to school. What?

Completely putting aside the content, this is a great style of intro!

This is one of the most hideous examples of blasphemy I've seen.

If the cult of Mormons were not in control of the area they would have easily seen that woman as off her rockers and insane! But all her crazy talk seemed normal to the cult cops so nothing was done. RIP Charles Vallow and the two innocent children and Chads wife Tammy.

@chevlife3311

2 ай бұрын

100% correct.

@DistractedGlobeGuy

2 ай бұрын

The shit she was talking was JW dogma, not Mormon. If anything, she was a heretic. The reason she was given carte blanche was because of her extra X-chromosome, not her magical beliefs.

@allhopeabandon7831

2 ай бұрын

Agreed...I am nowhere near the Mormon Church, but ppl in power get to control the outcome way too often. DemocRATs and their stranglehold on the DOJ comes to mind...they prosecute their political enemies, while their policy destroys the country, and anyone in that cult is immune from prosecution, or any scrutiny at all...

@Lapsontheboy

2 ай бұрын

Spot on--masonic cops all over the anglo saxon world!

@AllergicToMakeBelieve

2 ай бұрын

It's amusing to me that practicing ritual pretend cannibalism and praying to a life sized emaciated statue of a bleeding guy nailed to a medieval torture instrument seems normal, but talk of zombies is just a bridge too far.😂

The Psychologist does a LOUSY job interrogating the wife, LORI, by using leading questions all the while saying "I dont want to put words into your mouth." Etc. She is coaching or prompting her testimony, leading her instead of letting the client speak for herself. BAD JOB in discovery leading to the subsequent husband's needless murder.

@coyboybc

16 күн бұрын

The cops listening to her in the interrogation video about zombies ….they could be easily manipulated to be in the cult she joined ! The psychologist didn’t see that was some crazy stuff? That so called doctor belongs in a rubber room and not being a doctor!

Take a shot everytime she says “whatever”

Really tragic story and RIP Charles but…. I really appreciate the teddy bear in the armchair in the interrogation soft room

All 3 of their stories are different, why are the police believing this crap

@noneyabidness196

2 ай бұрын

Female domestic violence privilege

@Death_of_light

2 ай бұрын

@@noneyabidness196 fair point

@matfax

2 ай бұрын

I'm surprised how calm the daughter was during the interrogations.

@aussiefamily4886

2 ай бұрын

and she had no marks on her none of them did plus they could of easily checked the phones for the so called " threats "

@BeenNoticing

2 ай бұрын

Have you not been living in America since 2017-ish?

This is absolutely terrible. The police were no help until served multiple dishes of cold dead evidence...

Bro she’s literally laughing while being telling the story of someone dying…

Police dropped the ball BIG TIME on this

This woman is scary as hell. She can put on a perfect suburban mom act and fool the cops all while being schizo level of crazy. She perfectly hid her beliefs, kept everything under wraps.

@user-ip5dm6jf8k

2 ай бұрын

Vallow, richins, franke...see a pattern?

@sofpsocf

2 ай бұрын

Honestly. Her interview with the police framed him so perfectly as an aggressive controlling husband. Even somehow twisted his literal job as just an ‘excuse’ to stay away from the kids?

@pick2206

2 ай бұрын

@gregshell8570

@RedArrow808

2 ай бұрын

The blonde hair suburbanite moms they’re all insane you can see it in their eyes

@johannas.l.brushane2518

2 ай бұрын

I must disagree....I would say her family encouraged it more or less, she talk and behave like a teen while being a middle aged woman and everyone, especially her family approved if not even encouraged it (but likely the cops to a less degree). They encourage it perhaps not openly but subconsciously, they feel needed by the infantile middle aged woman in her various problems.

It's so damn sad watching the father pleading to the police for help, trying to explain in vain that he and his children's lives are in danger.

Dear Lord I come to you today to please be with this family and deliver them of their possessors. I ask You be with Charles as no one deserves such a death. Thank You for waking us up this morning.

RIP Charles. A sane man trying his best to protect his kids.. paid the ultimate price for it. The man is heaven with his children no doubt… This is why you don’t believe all women’s accusations of abuse . Do well to remember that the next time you hear some chick talk about her “abusive boyfriend” in the past and her fake sob stories. A Woman’s tears are only real when she is alone…. I find it highly disingenuous that a woman would openly share abuse stories with strangers yet don’t share them with police or any outlet of real help… They. Are. Lying. #Dontbelieveallwomen

So she can tell the cops she took his stuff and they do nothing but she claims he took her purse and they white knight for her

@meghancass3187

2 ай бұрын

Yep.

@palmzombie3553

2 ай бұрын

Female privilege

pathetic how the police do nothing. but if the tables were turned, and she would tell them about her husband, they would have arrested him right there.

I remember watching the netflix documentary about this first ever docu to make me cry. This one and the gabriel fernandez case are sad af

This lady is so nuts. Trully sad how she was able to manipulate all around her. Rip to those kiddos and there father. He did everything he could.

the lack of empathy exhibited by this woman is CHILLING!

How is this a good police officer? Husband says she was/is deranged, threatened his life & kids are gone. Officer calmly asks "how is that a threat to your kids"? (4:02) BECAUSE SHE IS DERANGED & THE KIDS ARE GONE OFFICER! I don't know how the man was calm & sadly thats why he ended up dead.

I can’t keep watching these videos man. This is just heart wrenching, vomit inducing, and terrifying. Every single person every step of the way, this is awful. Rest in peace King. I hope his family can find peace.

Men , ALWAYS refer to the crazy/hot matrix when considering a partner.

So sad for charles he did everthing right and was still killed, he seams like he was a great guy and them children would have thrived with him. Too bad his claim werent taken more serious, this is the worse possible outcome.

Husband of a psycho: "can't get in touch with my kids.. she said she was going to murder me, kill me with her powers..." Officer Dumbdumb over here: "sooooo.... how does she pose a threat to the kids?"

My heart goes out to all Nicks Schneider. I feel ya guys.

Coo Coo for Coco puffs is a Major Understatement here 🤯

Does anyone else think Tylee was initially in on Charles's murder? She and Lori thought they were going to be getting Charles million dollar insurance payout but when Lori found out she was no longer the beneficiary she was livid and didnt want to have the financial burden of children anymore.

@Sandra-dm8rd

2 ай бұрын

Who was the beneficiary?

@RichardZabielski-ql9ss

Ай бұрын

Charles changed it to his sister when he knew Lori was out to kill him​@@Sandra-dm8rd

@RichardZabielski-ql9ss

Ай бұрын

Charles changed it to his sister when he knew Lori was out to kill him​@@Sandra-dm8rd

The police should have listened to charles Vallow, every one would still be alive if they had.

Sad. The only think I think this guy should have done is get a hidden camera that would record every time he had an interaction with her. Now it's a he-said, she-said situation which is bad.

Idaho here, I remember hearing about this tragedy. Too close to home