i thought this was blindingly obvious until i realised the reason i thought that is because i had already picked 10 as my starting number so the proof was immediately intuitive for a brief moment, i thought i was a genius

@zzzaphod8507

21 күн бұрын

That version of it may be obvious but it's a bit in-tens for me.

@HunterJE

21 күн бұрын

Same, I saw the thumbnail and so knew I'd be raising it to an exponent, and so picked a number I knew would be easy to do that to without getting out a calculator. And yeah definitely gave away the trick on the second proof XD

@johnnye87

20 күн бұрын

Once they've followed the step of converting to base b, technically everyone is using 10 as their starting number

@malvoliosf

20 күн бұрын

I’m not convinced you are not.

@gnaskar

20 күн бұрын

I picked 2. Which, yes, is divisible by 1.

I raised to the power of 1. Made a load of sense.

@NonFatMead

21 күн бұрын

Now prove for case n+1 and you've got your inductive proof.

@positivity3311

21 күн бұрын

me too

@soberhippie

21 күн бұрын

I raised it to the power of 0, and it made no sense at all

@gigantopithecus8254

21 күн бұрын

@@soberhippiei mean 0/(b-1) is an integrr for b!=1

@lucas2nded461

21 күн бұрын

I chose 1 as my starting number "b", which I promptly regretted

"Wait it's all 9s" "Always has been"

Love the second proof! In the vein of the first proof, there's the identity b^n - a^n = (b-a)*(b^n-1 + b^n-2 * a + .... + b * a^n-2 + a^n-1) that makes the divisibility quite clear.

@ShongoStick

21 күн бұрын

ah yes, this complicated string of math that i don't understand....yes, i understood that perfectly

@mathieuaurousseau100

21 күн бұрын

And now in the vein of the second proof, in (b^n)-1=(b-1)(b^n-1+b^n-2+...+b+1), if you write the second number in base b you get 111..1 (b ones)

@saavyk1264

21 күн бұрын

@@mathieuaurousseau100 Whoa

@nikos4677

21 күн бұрын

This was my first thought.

@iang0th

20 күн бұрын

@@ShongoStick It's easier to understand (at least if you can write it out properly instead of trying to force it into a KZread comment), if you look at like this: first set a=1, since we don't need the more general version, so we have (b-1)(b^n-1 + b^n-2 + ... b + 1) If you expand that out, you get (b^n + b^n-1 + ... b^2 + b) - (b^n-1 + b^n-2 + ... + b + 1). If you compare the positive terms with the ones being subtracted off, you'll notice that all of them cancel out except for the first and last, b^n-1.

Nice proof by induction I made: b^1 - 1 is obviously divisible by b - 1, as they are the same If b^n - 1 is divisible by b - 1, then so is b^(n+1) - 1, as b^(n+1) - 1 = b^(n+1) - b + b - 1 = b(b^n - 1) + (b - 1) First term divides by (b - 1), as b^n - 1 divides by (b - 1) Second term (b - 1) divides by (b - 1) Induction: True of first case, and second, and third, and so on...

@quentind1924

21 күн бұрын

I did that too!

@kombat4135

21 күн бұрын

I thought of this as well

@broskey4041

20 күн бұрын

was it specified that n is a set of natural numbers?

@chaddaifouche536

20 күн бұрын

@@broskey4041 You mean *in* the set of natural numbers. And that's really a matter of conventions : if you use n as a value name for something else than a (natural) integer without precisions, you're an heretical monster in the mathematical community. Similarly, because we're discussing divisibility without more details, you can infer that b should be an integer too. Of course if you're writing a math paper or in your exam, you should **really** details all of this!

@broskey4041

20 күн бұрын

@@chaddaifouche536 thank you for the correction and clarification. I didn't even know that divisibility implies working with integers that's kinda cool

I thought of b=1

@Elnadrius

21 күн бұрын

Me too!

@JohnR31415

21 күн бұрын

Try b=pi, or root 2

@revadiazairlangga5939

21 күн бұрын

same here

@blackholedividedbyzero

21 күн бұрын

Zero divided by zero

@EqSlay

21 күн бұрын

That's a bbbase case.

MATT! I think there's a lovely geometric proof as well! Visualize 5^2 as a 5x5 grid of squares. Remove the southeast corner. You now have a row of 4 (n-1) to the west of the missing square. Remove it. You also have a column of 4 to the north of the missing square. Remove it. You're left with a 4x4 grid, which is just more rows of 4. This works for any n^2. It extrapolates to higher dimensions as well. If you make a 5x5x5 cube, then take out one corner, you can remove one entire face using the method above. Then, remove the strip of 4 that's aligned with the missing corner on the Z-axis -- just like you did with the "row" and "column" in the x^2 example -- which leaves you with a bunch of identical slices, each of which is identical to the 2-dimensional example after removing one corner piece.

@vsm1456

20 күн бұрын

I like your idea! When a problem is visualised it makes it much more simple for me.

@jonathanallan5007

19 күн бұрын

This. I visualised exactly the same almost straight away.

@jonathanallan5007

19 күн бұрын

...and going up in dimensions by one always adds (b-1) copies of the currently existing cubelets prior to the removal from the very first strip.

@amethystklintberg7436

17 күн бұрын

This is beautiful!

@Naryoril

17 күн бұрын

This should get more upvotes

0:05 b = 1 0:30 n = 0 0:41 oh... So it turns out you can divide by 0 after all

@Mitchpott

20 күн бұрын

Does 0/0 = 1 or undefined or infinity

@kutsen39

20 күн бұрын

​@@Mitchpott0/0 is considered undefined. Imagine a function (or graph it in Desmos) where it's some number divided by x, like y=1/x. If you start at x=1 and move towards x=0, you're dividing by a smaller number which means you're actually multiplying by a larger number, i.e. 1÷½=1×2. So as x approaches 0 from the positive side, the number races off to infinity. Now what happens if you start from x=-1? Well, the exact same thing, but the number is now negative. As x gets infinitely close to 0, the 'limit' (basically what we've just done) is different depending on how you look at it. So the limit is said to not exist. Lastly, imagine the age-old 0.99999... = 1. You might know it works because it's an infinitely long string of O's, but if you try to decide what its limit is (the number it gets infinitely close to), it approaches 1. There are some great proofs here for you to find. But in this respect of limits, we arrive at the conclusion that they are actually equivalent. So, because the limit does not exist, it is impossible to divide by 0. In actual calculus, it is said that if your result is 0/0, you've taken the wrong approach.

@danceswithowls

20 күн бұрын

Factors aren't defined by division but by multiplication into a product. Given h × k = j, then h and k are factors of j. Likewise, since 3 × 0 = 0, both 3 and 0 are factors of 0. Nothing in there about division.

@nickpro8116

20 күн бұрын

From the point of view of the definition of divisibility, 0 is actually divisible by 0, since there exists a number (any number in fact) that you can multiply by zero to get zero. The funny thing is, this still doesn't imply you can divide by zero, it's just the one single case where the terms "divisibility" and "division" collide and contradict each other. But for any non-zero number, divisibility for sure implies that you can divide by that number and get a single unambiguous result.

@19divide53

20 күн бұрын

@@nickpro8116 The terms "divisibility" and "division" do not contradict each other. Division is defined as multiplication (one of the defining operation in a ring) by the multiplicative inverse (which exists for any nonzero element in a field). By definition, "division" excludes dividing by zero already.

The two proofs are actually very closely related! In the first proof, you basically factor b^n - 1 into (b - 1) * (b^(n-1) + b^(n-2) + b^(n-3) + ... + b^0). And in the second proof, the reason aaa...a in base b is divisible by a is because aaa...a (base b) = a * b^(n-1) + a * b^(n-2) + a * b^(n-3) + ... + a * b^0 = a * (b^(n-1) + b^(n-2) + b^(n-3) + ... + b^0). Since a = b - 1, they are the same equation :)

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

No sh1t, Sherlock.

@novamc7945

21 күн бұрын

​@@samueldeandrade8535 You must be pretty smart wow

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

@@novamc7945 thanks, but no. No one needs to be smart to NOT like obvious comments.

@novamc7945

21 күн бұрын

​ @samueldeandrade8535 That's a stupid argument. According to your analogy, videos that explain a topic at a fundamental level should simply NOT exist. Afterall, it's obvious. Plus, it's certainly not like there are people out there that don't understand the subject you're so profoundly good at! If you'd already inferred what the comment was suggesting, you could've simply ignored it and moved on. There was simply no need to leave a discrediting reply. Nothing like a good old KZread comment section argument.

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

@@novamc7945 "According to your analogy ..." Wtf are talking about? What analogy? I made no analogy ...

I like how "complicating" the initial problem leads to a much more intuitive understanding of the proof. (And the dig at Amazon)

My first intuition when I heard "divisible by something" was to consider the whole situation modulo this something. There it also becomes quickly apparent, because modulo (b-1) we have: b ≡ 1 (mod b-1) and therefore b^n ≡ 1^n = 1 (mod b-1), hence b^n - 1 ≡ 0 (mod b-1), but the last equation is exactly synonymous to "(b^n - 1) is divisible by (b - 1)". Of course this than relates to the fact, that 1 is a zero of the polynomial (x^n - 1), because the calculation above is just evaluating this polynomial in the according ring of residual integers (Z/(b-1)Z).

@jameshart2622

20 күн бұрын

Nice one. Really clean. It does have the downside of not knowing the resulting alternate factor, though. Still a good proof, though.

@preetichandra7113

8 күн бұрын

Just got that answer too🤪🤪🤪

I REALLY LOVE WHEN WE SWITCH NUMBER BASES AND IT BECOMES OBVIOUS IT IS MY FAVORITE GENRE OF MATH

instructions unclear, I picked "b" to be the big famous constant e and it didn't work :(

@Cruzz999

21 күн бұрын

Similarly, I picked pi. Fairly sure that's not working either.

@spaceshipable

21 күн бұрын

I think 1 has to divide into your "b". I imagine if you picked b = ½, you could say b ^ n - ¼ is divisible by b - ¼. (I picked ¼ because it divides into ½). Therefore it makes sense that b has to be an integer for the video's equation to work. p.s. this could all be wrong, I've not actually checked the maths

@adityaflashraj

21 күн бұрын

No it definitely works

@oinkoink3669

21 күн бұрын

it only applies to integers. He should have said that

@katherinescheper1951

21 күн бұрын

I picked -1/4. Can you believe that didn't work?

The "base b" insight is wonderful, but it really doesn't answer how you would decide to do that. For me it's much more natural to switch to mod b-1, where b^n - 1 = 1^n - 1 = 0 mod b-1, since when you have to prove that x is divisible by y it's often useful to switch to proving that x = 0 mod y.

@akaHarvesteR

21 күн бұрын

Base B is just mod B with a carry 😊

@gideonk123

21 күн бұрын

But then when you need to divide by b-1 mod b-1, it would be like dividing by zero, or perhaps I didn’t understand you?

@JdeBP

21 күн бұрын

The base b approach is natural when one is in school and one hasn't done modular arithmetic yet, but one _has_ encountered things like how to test in base 10 for divisibility by 9.

@Pieter31

21 күн бұрын

@@gideonk123 if a number is 0 mod b-1, that means its divisible by b-1

@quentind1924

21 күн бұрын

A way to find it would’ve been if you tried b=10 at some point in your tests

If you use b-1=a you can rewrite the problem as (a+1)^n - 1 being divisible by a, and if you were to expand it you would get a lot of terms with some power of a, and then +1-1, which just cancels

@Subatomicfish

21 күн бұрын

I believe that coincides with how synthetic division works, which was how I went about thinking through the problem

@softy8088

20 күн бұрын

I really like this one.

@Penrose707

17 күн бұрын

This is how I went about it as well. Let F(b, n) = (b^(n) - 1) / (b - 1). Now evaluate at F(b + 1, n) = ((1 + b)^(n) - 1) / (b). Now expand the binomial and note that C(n ,n) b^0 = 1, which cancels the one in the numerator. Now we have a polynomial expression in terms of b multiplied by 1/b, which we can negate by subtracting one in all of our terms. Now evaluate this expression at b - 1 to show that F(b, n) = (b^(n) - 1) / (b - 1) = sum(k = 0, n - 1, C(n, k) * (b - 1)^(n-k-1))

"I don't think anybody's ever used base 440 before" Hmm... 440 Hz is what A440 (Stuttgart pitch) tuning is based on. I suppose it's more of a unit conversion than base though. I'm sure someone's played 440 Hz on a bass before though, and maybe that would be bass 440. A0 = 27.5 Hz A1 = 55 Hz A2 = 110 Hz A3 = 220 Hz *A4 = 440 Hz* A5 = 880 Hz A6 = 1760 Hz A7 = 3520 Hz A8 = 7040 Hz

@BigDBrian

21 күн бұрын

I'm sure the 440Hz playing bassist also had some sheets of paper: A0 = 1 m² A1 = 1/2 m² A2 = 1/4 m² A3 = 1/8 m² A4 = 1/16 m² ...

@musicat3330

20 күн бұрын

@@BigDBrian Then if you multiply the pitch by the paper size, you get a very strange way to express kinematic viscosity: A4 × A4 = 440 Hz × 1/16 m² = 27.5 m²/s = 275 kilostokes (kSt)

@AlRoderick

19 күн бұрын

A440 isn't a bass note, it's the very definition of mid-range.

@efhiii

19 күн бұрын

@@AlRoderick it's not a bass note, but that doesn't mean it can't be played on a bass.

I paused the video immediately after you said you picked 440, thought for a moment, decided on 17. I unpaused the video and the next sentence you said was someone else picked 17. I was reminded of Veritasium’s recent video on the human inability to create randomness.

@AkiSan0

21 күн бұрын

well. technically he didnt say to pick a "fully random" number, but just a number we like, thus reducing the numbers chosen by a LOT.

@Lombravia

21 күн бұрын

17 is just a decently likable number.

@X1ma_

21 күн бұрын

I picked 17, but only because it used to be my favourite football player's number when I was a kid, and now it's my favourite number xD

@sol_in.victus

21 күн бұрын

I picked 7 and i think there's something to it why is 7 a number people often pick

@JdeBP

21 күн бұрын

I have changed my strategy for picking random numbers under 100 since I watched that. 30 and 90 are preferred random numbers, now. But, of course, there's the question of how many other people in the world have thought the same. (-:

To be honest, the first thing I thought of were geometric sums ( [b^n-1]/[b-1] = 1 + b + b² + ... + b^[n-1] ). But that's an admittedly more convoluted way of proving that [b^n-1]/[b-1] is an integer than proving that 1 is a root of x^n-1

@prof.dr.jorgmeuthenne765

21 күн бұрын

same

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

That's probably the original proof of this fact.

@Schpeeedy

21 күн бұрын

well you can do your way without proving that for any a satisfying a polynomial f(x), (x-a) divides f(x). So I think its nicer

@TechToppers

21 күн бұрын

I mean you would have to show after dividing it out, the polynomial has integer coeffs? If rationals then, we can't guarantee?

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

@@Schpeeedy exactly.

My b was 2. Yep, i was underwhelmed

@charstringetje

21 күн бұрын

That's odd

@Centauris-ty8wn

21 күн бұрын

I think it’s prime time to retry with another number.

@nathangamble125

21 күн бұрын

@@charstringetje No, 2 is definitely even.

@helsing7423

21 күн бұрын

@@Centauris-ty8wn 2 is my favourite number. I would never forsake it.

@kilroy1964

21 күн бұрын

​@@helsing7423Two forever!

I thought of the cubes from grade school. Your n-hypercube can be decomposed into a bunch of sticks and slabs and cubes and hypercubes that have (b-1) side lengths.... and.... 1, but you have conveniently subtracted that out.

@estherstreet4582

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, I found it fairly easy to visualise a proof for n=2 and n=3 just by chopping up shapes, but I wasn't sure how to visualise n=4 lmao

@jacovisscher

21 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly! Sad it wasn't original, happy people think in hypercubes!

@UnCavi

21 күн бұрын

Yes, this is my favorite proof. You can also mix it with a bit of induction to make it simpler: b^n -1 is the volume of a n-cube with side lenght b, which has a small (n-cube)-shaped hole with side length 1 at one of its corners. Take a slice off of it from the top: you’re left with a n-parallelepid with one side lenght (b-1) and all other sides b, and the extra slice you cut off. You can “flat” this extra slice by looking at it from the front, suppressing the dimension along its side of lenght 1. Then, you’ve got the same shape as you started with, but which lives in 1 dimension lower: a (n-1)-cube with a unit corner missing. Repeat n times and you get all shapes with at least a side lenght of (b-1)

i love the orange circle in the top right, brings the whole thing together

The base change is sooo poggers

@notnilc2107

21 күн бұрын

very skibidi indeed.

@movieidiots5542

21 күн бұрын

Spoiler alert!

I tried proving this myself without watching the rest of the video, and I made something like: 1. Base case: for n=1, b^n-1 is clearly divisible by b-1 (because they are equal) 2. Inductive case: Let's say b^n-1 is some x(b-1) + 1. Then: b^(n+1)-1 = b (b^n) - 1 = b(x(b-1)+1)-1 = bx(b-1) + b - 1 = bx(b-1) + 1(b-1) = (bx+1)(b-1) which is also divisible by b-1. QED

My mind was blown and I immediately understood when you said to use the base of the number, wonderful proof. I love the bigger videos with locations and large production values, but I love these simple "Here's a cool math(s) thing!" videos too, and I'm glad you're doing both.

The naughty orange dot in the top right corner bugged me

I Love the shade thrown at Amazon!

Very nice! I love these kinds of insights. I'll never forget this little gem now.

I am also very stunned by the implications this could have on quickly determining if a number is divisible by another specific number. Powerful stuff

Not only is the second proof easy to follow, it also immediately tells you what the other factor is and why (1, b+1, b^2+b+1, etc, depending on n)

@raresaturn

19 күн бұрын

What is the second proof?

@jacksonpercy8044

14 күн бұрын

The base B proof. Also I wasn't expecting to see MrCheese while scrolling through the comments. Neat.

I think a pretty intuitive way of thinking about it is geometrically, If you make a b X b square (or cube or whatever) it can be seen to be a load of sets of (b - 1). In the case of a square b rows of b - 1 and one extra column of b - 1

@sumner1107

21 күн бұрын

This is how I visualized it as well

@JavedAlam-ce4mu

18 күн бұрын

Doesn't the extra column have b elements? E.g if b = 4 and we square it: Say these asterisks represent b, so here is a 4x4 grid: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I see b (4) rows of b-1(3) * * * * * * * * * * * * But this remaining extra column you refer to has b, not b-1 elements * * * * I just realised why this makes sense - because we are dividing by (b^n) - 1, so if you subtract this extra one off, then yes it is divisible by (b - 1) * * * But the way you described it was incorrect and confusing for me lol.

@hoblesy

18 күн бұрын

@@JavedAlam-ce4mu sorry if I was unclear but yes we ended up at the same solution, if b = 4, you end up with: b rows of b - 1 (4 rows of 3) and one extra column of b - 1 (3) ###| ###|# ###|# ###|#

@sumner1107

17 күн бұрын

@@JavedAlam-ce4mu if you remove the corner square then yeah, youll have a square of (b-1)^2 plus 2(b-1) sides

I asked myself this exact questions a few years ago during a calm shift, and came up with 3 solutions, two of them being those you present (but I cannot remember the third)! My favourite one was using base b. Love those kind of reflections, great video

Matt releasing the video I didn't think I needed today. Thanks, helps a lot!

Pick any number but irrationals don’t work. He really Mat Parkered those instructions.

That is GENIOUS! The base transformation is just so simple, I love it so much! I'm going to show everyone I know

Brilliant video - the first proof came to mind immediately but the second one blew me away! Just pre-ordered the book because trig is my favorite, and also because the UK cover is much better than the US cover. (That being said I do hope there's significant respect paid to our friend the unit circle!)

I picked b=1. I feel like "a number" was not specific enough. Or is 0 divisible by 0? 🤔

@galoomba5559

21 күн бұрын

Sure 0 is divisible by 0, 0 = k*0 for some k

@chemicalbrother5743

21 күн бұрын

@@galoomba5559 That would make 0 / 0 = k. Which is not a unique value, so u can't divide 0 by 0.

@mudkip_074

21 күн бұрын

Zero is indeed divisible by zero. Since there exists a whole number k such that kx0=0 (this is true for all k, but we can take k=0 as an example, 0x0=0). Generally speaking "a is divisible by b" and "a is a multiple of b" are the same statement. This trips a lot of people up because there's no answer to "zero divided by zero", which sounds like it should mean the same thing, but it doesn't.

@Patagonicus42

21 күн бұрын

@@mudkip_074 Ah, right, hadn't considered that you can define divisibility by multiplication

@Mmmm1ch43l

21 күн бұрын

@@chemicalbrother5743 unfortunately, the mathematical definition of "a is divisible by b" is in general not the same as "you can divide b by a". this is because the concept of divisibility is very useful even in situations where you don't have a concept of division at all. in general, "a divides b" is defined as "there's some k such that k*a=b", which is obviously satisfied for 0 and 0, because 0*k=0 for all k.

I was obsessed with the Mersenne series in middle school. I discovered early that 2^(2n)-1 was divisible by 2^2-1 and 2^(3n)-1 was divisible by 2^3-1. That’s how i checked my work.

I like it when Matt does a video on a topic I fully understand, it makes me feel much smarter than I actually am.

Great work Jess! I’ve just run my first marathon and looking for inspiration for what to do next. I think you’ve inspired me to have another go at running a sub 45 minute 10k. I was 12 seconds short at last year’s Run Norwich… so have my goal for this September! 🤞

@vincentlevarrick6557

17 күн бұрын

This. *This* is my favourite comment on a maths video. 😁

I like big exponents and I can not lie.

If I remember correctly, putting maths in an unusual context because it tells you something about how the formula was derived, was exactly the sort of thing you were arguing _against_ in your tau vs pi smackdown with Steve Mould lol. I'd love to see a tau vs pi rematch with the two of you

@hiccupwarrior89

21 күн бұрын

W pfp

@samueldeandrade8535

21 күн бұрын

Oh my Euler, you are ins4ne.

@Anonymous-df8it

19 күн бұрын

It's on Numberphile

This video is so cool. Need more of such short fun videos.

This my friends, is a classic old school standup maths. Well done, Matt!

i picked b=900.1 it wasnt an integer, but it still worked

@enderyu

21 күн бұрын

No it doesn't work?

@kilroy1964

21 күн бұрын

Nope, it doesn't. I think b has to be a natural number greater than 1.

@nathangamble125

21 күн бұрын

No, it does not still work. (900.1^2-1)/899.1 = 901.1. If it works the end result will be an integer.

the revelatory feeling of understanding I got out of this was so incredibly unique. Exactly the feeling that I always am seeking when working in math or programming.

There is also a simple way to prove this by induction, for increasing n. (It's going to sound complicated in text but with pictures it's obvious) For n = 2, imagine the it as a square grid, now take one off the corner, now you have a rectangle of b*(b-1) plus a line of b-1, which are both divisible by b-1. For n = 3, imagine a cube, taking one off the corner leaves you with the same n = 2 square case on one face, plus a block of (b^2)*(b-1), this block is also divisible by b-1. This can be extended to arbitrary n, where the 'block' will always be (b^(n-1))*(b-1), divisible by b-1.

I am so glad I stayed through this video. I was like yeah yeah yeah roots and stuff, then BAM! That was MAGNIFICENT❤

love the jab at amazon right at the end!

That's a great technique. Maybe it'll come handy for other stuff as well. Loving it.

Awesome video Matt! I found it was easiest to build intuition for this problem by visualizing the n = 2 and n = 3 cases. If we draw a b x b grid and remove the top right corner, it's pretty easy to see that the remaining cells are a b-1 x b-1 square starting in the bottom left, a b-1 row at the top, and a b-1 column on the right. And the 3-d version just scales each of these pieces up - there's a b-1 x b-1 x b-1 cube, 3 b-1 x b-1 squares, and some b-1 columns and rows. (that said, I'm pretty sure this is entirely analogous to your base-b approach)

OK, I was surprised by the title, but the proof! That's very cool! I don't know any other example of using every number as a base for solving a problem, so that makes it much cooler. Might want to try giving this as an exercise in understanding the bases.

Both of these proofs are so infuriatingly simple, I love it.

I literally tried this problem yesterday from the Stanford Maths Problem book, and the next day BANG a video from the man himself.

Finally background noise while talking and not uncomfortable silence Matt !!

love the switch to base b. Elegant! Also, please tell us about the cool shirt you're wearing. There's gotta be some maths going on there, yes?

I love how intuitive the 2nd proof is (as long as you understand bases)

I love this. As soon as I heard base B, I knew where it was all going. Lovely

Woah, that's such a cool proof. So simple and approachable.

Love this!

what a neat way to look at the problem!

Oh wow, that second proof is incredible

Awesome. 😃 Sharing it at once. 👍

Love it... That is beyond elegant

Wow. That is so beautiful!

I like it! Makes total sense when you see what is going on!

wow, really cool proof! my first thought was that obviously it comes from how polynomials work but then the "base b" proof was so much nicer and made more intuitive sense

Even better, (x^n - y^n) is divisible by x-y

Very beautifull proof, easy to do and obvious proof, just what i like the most. But not so easy to think on it, without any external help.

Wow I love that! The initial proof confirms to me that it works, but the second proof shows me how it works!

That second method was just beautiful. Beautiful. Wow.

Loved the second proof 👍

Love a short simple video like this that still contains a nice "aha" moment!

Excellent!

YEEEESSSS!!! Did you overhear my meeting with my academic supervisor a few months ago? This is so validating! I told him it’s so easy to see divisibility when you write the Mersenne number (2^mn)-1 in binary and then just look at the number! You can see so much by just looking at it! (The string of mn 1s is divisible by a string of n 1s, so the original is divisible by the smaller Mersenne number 2^n-1, and this is why a Mersenne number with a composite power can never be prime.) His reaction was that the difference of powers formula is an easier proof, and my immediate reaction was just 👀 Big lesson for me: translate concepts into what’s most familiar to my audience! And, in the academic community, that means translating my visuals into familiar formulas!

I learned this in my number theory class, do I remember the proof without watching the video? No!

I love this 😂❤ it makes me feel smart despite not doing anything, really

Great video!

loved this

Ordered my copy of the book!

I picked b = 10. I was thinking "yeah, obviously, but curious that ut should be the case for all other numbers". I didn't make the leap to think in other number systems. Nice! I liked that alot. Great video, as always.

In the introductory logic course at my university, an exercise in the book is to prove 6^n-1 is divisible by 5, by induction on n. I discussed it with some other students and we realized it works for any base

That's a pretty neat way to solve it, certainly more intuitive than what I did. I started with b^2 - 1 = (b+1)(b-1) as you mentioned, then looked at what happened as n grows, and how you could factor that number in terms of b-1: b^3 - 1 = b^2(b-1) + b^2 - 1 Would you look at that. One of the terms has b-1 as a factor, and we've already proved that b^2 - 1 is divisible by b-1. b^4 - 1 = b^3(b-1) + b^3 - 1 Same thing here, except this time the term on the right is b^3 - 1, which we proved in the previous step is divisible by b-1. This works recursively for any natural n. Working back to find a lower bound for n: b^1 - 1 = b - 1, clearly divisible by b-1. b^0 - 1 = 1 - 1 = 0, which is (b-1)*0. For negative n, this breaks down as the exponent just keeps growing towards negative infinity. For non-integer n, this also doesn't work because you never hit an initial condition like the n=0 case. So generally, for any real b and any non-negative integer n: b^n - 1 = b^(n-1)(b-1) + b(n-1)-1

The second proof made me smile ❤

A neat mental visualisation for this I always come back to for this (which is basically just the (b - 1)(b + 1) solution) is I imagine a grid of n x n dots (I’ve used the neodymium magnetic balls), remove the top row and append it as a new column. You should have a grid of (n - 1) x (n + 1) and one ball overhanging. This shows that for any n^2 - 1 the value is technically divisible by both (n - 1) as Matt showed, but ALSO (n + 1). Again, this is just the original proof but I always think of it as a nice, practical representation of it :)

that is a fantastic proof, thank you!

Brilliant!

Oh boy! This is so ellegant :)

another interseting way you can prove it (It might be the same method and I just got confused) is to start with a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^b=a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^b then change the start to a 1 1+a^1+a^2+...+a^b=a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^b then move it over and factorise (a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^(b-1))a=a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^b-1 (a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^(b-1))a-1(a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^(b-1))=a^b-1 (a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^(b-1))(a-1)=a^b-1 a^0+a^1+a^2+...+a^(b-1)=(a^b-1)/(a-1) you get the original equation the cool thing about doing it this way is you can also do if you start with a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc)=a^(0c)+a^(c)+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc) and do the same process 1+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc)=a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc) (a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc-c))a^c=a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc)-1 (a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc-c))a^c-(a^(0c)+a^c+a^(2c)+...+abc-c)=a^(bc)-1 (a^(0c)+a^(c)+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc-c))(a^(c)-1)=a^(bc)-1 a^(0c)+a^(c)+a^(2c)+...+a^(bc-c)=(a^(bc)-1)/(a^(c)-1)

Really cool!

two other ways of thinking about it that don't require different bases: 1. synthetic division/polynomial division: if we write out our problem as a synthetic division problem it will always be a 1 followed by n 0s followed by -1, then our root is 1. Drop the first 1, multiply add to the next value and on and on until we get to the end (basic synthetic division obviously), because we are never multiplying by anything but the mutliplicative identity or adding anything but the additive identity, when we finally add the -1, we get a remainder of 0, proving that 1 is a root and (b-1) is a factor. 2.if we take the quotient of that synthetic division and think about the process in reverse, we are multiplying some n-degree polynomial with no skipped terms with only coefficients of 1 (e.g. b^7 + b^6 + b^5 + b^4 + b^3 + b^2 + b + 1) by (b-1), which we can re-frame as (b^1 - b^0), then through distribution we get b^1(b^n + b^[n-1] +...+ 1) -1*b^0((b^n + b^[n-1] +...+ 1), then by distributing again and through our exponent rules, every term multiplied by b^1 will have it's degree raised by 1, (b^n + b^[n-1] +...+ 1) -> (b^[n+1] + b^n +...+ b^1) , and every term of the other part will become negative, (b^n + b^[n-1] +...+ 1) -> (-b^n - b^[n-1] -...- 1), those two resultant polynomials' values all obviously cancel out, b^n - b^n = 0 and so on, except for b^[n+1] and -1. Therefore (b-1) must always be a factor of (b^n - 1)

This was one of my favorite quirks of math that I figured out as a kid.

So cool!!

Ok, so how did he know I'll choose seventeen? That's more interesting to me now than rest of the video tbh (ofc as always - great quality and a lot of fun absorbed from watching this!)

Matt, for your next video, please present a mathematical proof that explains why the Stand-up Maths theme song is the best on youtube.

I feel so pleased I worked this out while the video was running! I paused the video as requested, and tried this with b=10, saw lots of 99999s and had to leap from the bathtub and run down the street shouting "BASES! BASES! BASES!!"

There's a geometric proof too. It's hard to describe in words because it's geometric, but I'll give it a go. If it sounds complex in the general case, picture it with n=3. Let's start by defining a "nibbled hypercube". Start with an n-dimensional hyper-cube with side length b. Take a little bite out of one corner - a hyper-cube with side length 1. The volume of this is just the volume of the original cube, minus the volume of the nibble, i.e. b^n - 1. Now, on a face which touches the nibbled bit, shave off a width 1 slice of the hyper-cube. Since it has width 1, the volume of this slice is the same as the (n-1)-dimensional volume of the "face" of the slice. And that face is an (n-1) dimensional nibbled hypercube. Its volume is b^(n-1) - 1, and by our inductive hypothesis, that is divisible by b-1. Having shaved a width-1 slice off our original nibbled cube, what we're left with is a hyper-rectangle. The side perpendicular to the slice has length b-1, so the volume of this is also divisible by b-1. Since we've shown that an n-dimensional nibbled hypercube can be broken into a two shapes whose volumes are both divisible by 1, we know that the it's total volume, i.e. b^n 1, is divisible by n-1.

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PS I didn't start by thinking in n-dimensions, I'm not a genius! I started in 2-d, then thought about 3-d, and fortunately that was enough to see how the generalisation would work :)

As a speedcuber and having solved 4d and 5d cubes, i very quickly understood it geometrically. Very closely related to the second proof. Helped that i picked 6 which is small and easy to visualise.

I literally figured this out very recently when trying to fall asleep at night. Figuring out things like this is my version of counting sheep.

Surely if you consider b^(n-1) + b^(n-2) + ... + b^2 + b + 1, and multiply it by (b-1), you get (b^n + b^(n-1) + ... + b^3 + b^2 + b) - (b^(n-1) + b^(n-2) + ... + b^2 + b + 1). It should be pretty clear that the expression collapses to b^n - 1 since all the other terms are both added and subtracted. So (b-1)(b^(n-1) + b^(n-2) + ... + b^2 + b + 1) = b^n - 1. A rather trivial result, IMHO.

this is a great example of the difference between the "hammer and chisel" and Grothendieck's "rising sea" method for advanced maths problem solving!! so much so that I wonder whether that is what you were going for and omited mentioning the names on purpose :3