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Wheel of Rock - Metallica Albums Tier List (with Mike Portnoy)

Our first episode of our spin-off series Wheel of Rock where we tackle ranking Metallica albums with guest Mike Portnoy.
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  • @chagatainouveau
    @chagatainouveau7 ай бұрын

    I love how much of a music nerd Mike Portnoy is beyond being a phenomenal musician. Makes me appreciate him even more.

  • @SamperorTV

    @SamperorTV

    7 ай бұрын

    but his opinion of Load was a bummer

  • @Zyborggian

    @Zyborggian

    13 күн бұрын

    He's an uberfan and has the best taste ever alongside Pete Pardo from Sea of Tranquility at least as far as people who are in the public eye. I feel my cowriter in my band also has GOATed taste but yeah he's obviously not known like they are but I love him still shoutout Nicolas

  • @ThePhilTorretto
    @ThePhilTorretto7 ай бұрын

    There is NO way Reload is worse than St Anger and LuLu. NO WAY!!

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed!!

  • @michaelh7453

    @michaelh7453

    7 ай бұрын

    Agree, they are all dog shite.

  • @adr.marius5636

    @adr.marius5636

    4 ай бұрын

    Lulu is a good album, just a bit too weird for the usual dorky metal fan

  • @pentexsucks43

    @pentexsucks43

    4 ай бұрын

    St Anger is their best alongside Justice

  • @filipdzero8739

    @filipdzero8739

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@adr.marius5636That's a super condescending thing to say. You can love a variety of music genres & still think an experimental album is shit. Is it unique? Sure, but taking risks does not a good album make.

  • @metalor5605
    @metalor56057 ай бұрын

    Both Load and Relod have gems, the problem is that its 2 albuns that could be only one.

  • @ErikGruber

    @ErikGruber

    7 ай бұрын

    I think the second half of Reload has a lot of hidden gems. Bad Seed, Where the Wild Things Are, Prince Charming, Fixxxer, Carpe Diem...

  • @nickrzeczkowski9531

    @nickrzeczkowski9531

    7 ай бұрын

    Front half of Load plus The Outlaw Torn would've made for a perfect album

  • @Andrey_Yurkoff

    @Andrey_Yurkoff

    7 ай бұрын

    The last 2 good Metallica albums.

  • @nicolao.dos.santos

    @nicolao.dos.santos

    7 ай бұрын

    Exactly, there's some brilliant stuff! But I didn't understand this when they came out, I was just a narrow-minded metal teenager 😅 It all changed when my guitar teacher introduced me to Dream Theater... :)

  • @osomusic

    @osomusic

    7 ай бұрын

    It's ok that these are 2 albums. Maybe if it was 1 double album it would have been better. People shit on it for no reason.

  • @ffoddone83
    @ffoddone837 ай бұрын

    I'm with Vic , the house that jack built is one of the coolest song of this album

  • @levig384

    @levig384

    7 ай бұрын

    abso-fucking-lutely

  • @ErikGruber

    @ErikGruber

    7 ай бұрын

    Very underrated song. It would be interesting to have people condense and combine Load and Reload into 1 album and see what songs everyone picked.

  • @rockandrollbit

    @rockandrollbit

    7 ай бұрын

    💯 Underrated, same with The Outlaw Torn

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    it's a solid album half of it is very good House, Sleeps, King Nothing, Hero, Bleeding Me, Poor Twisted Me, Outlaw Torn then Fuel, Memory Remains, Devil's Dance, The Unforgiven II, Low Man's Lyric

  • @sorin_ea6

    @sorin_ea6

    6 ай бұрын

    I have to disagree, most of Load is actually not good.

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT7 ай бұрын

    I still tend to rank Death Magnetic pretty high. Love that one.

  • @claycall1144

    @claycall1144

    7 ай бұрын

    Me fucking too!!!!! As well as Beyond Magnetic

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    agree have to listen to the uncompressed version though

  • @lewisgrant7622

    @lewisgrant7622

    Күн бұрын

    I love the album but the mixing or production Is god awful

  • @kylegrossi8175
    @kylegrossi81757 ай бұрын

    I love that you guys are branching out from prog to hit other bands in different genres. Here are some suggestions, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Symphony X, the entire Devin Townsend catalog, take the top 6 albums from the Big 4 and rank em, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Deep Purple, UFO. Some great Jazz Fusion artists that have some prog elements as well that coulee be explored. Cheers, can't wait for the next one.

  • @progreport

    @progreport

    7 ай бұрын

    Great ideas Kyle. Some of those are on the list!

  • @csantana1971

    @csantana1971

    7 ай бұрын

    So many prog artists to cover (as you mentioned) and TPR calls Metallica “rock” 🤦‍♂️… A Frank Zappa Wheels of Prog would be interesting… I think the wheel can’t handle so many albums…

  • @Gorbyrev

    @Gorbyrev

    7 ай бұрын

    May I add King's X and the Galactic Cowboys.

  • @ProgSnob14

    @ProgSnob14

    7 ай бұрын

    Zappa's catalog is infested with filler releases ​@@csantana1971

  • @Metalton95

    @Metalton95

    7 ай бұрын

    Anything Symphony X will be embraced with a chef's kiss! The band itself does NOTHING for the fans (2 albums since 2008, no news on SoMe EVER, still no recorded live show or even a crowdfunding campaign, no proper new merch, NOTHING) so getting any SX related content at all is like finding an oasis in a desert :D

  • @sonormatt
    @sonormatt7 ай бұрын

    Love this! Doesn't matter if it's the "prog" report - you guys should do wheel of whichever band you all enjoy! So fun to watch. Hope there's more coming soon!

  • @kristenisher
    @kristenisher7 ай бұрын

    Kyle absolutely killed it arguing for Load! It’s not perfect, but its best tracks feel so vital, and have aged really well. Can you imagine ANY other metal band writing a country ballad as heartfelt as Mama Said?

  • @Charles2112pp

    @Charles2112pp

    7 ай бұрын

    Did you like load when it came out? I really gave them credit at the time for trying other stuff so I kind of liked it. I find that with that initial response I like it less and less over the years. I'm down to 2 songs I think were even good for what they were trying to do.

  • @kylehoulihan3875

    @kylehoulihan3875

    7 ай бұрын

    Mike shaking his head because only his opinion matters apparently

  • @deadbydawn745

    @deadbydawn745

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly. Load easily surpasses 72 Seasons.

  • @TheDmoe4000
    @TheDmoe40007 ай бұрын

    OMG. Portnoy explaining which albums he has in his "A" and in his "S" (with the long island accent). Absolute chef's kiss. 🤌

  • @dan1216
    @dan12167 ай бұрын

    22:00 - Am I Evil was NOT on Kill ‘Em All originally. It was a b-side of the Creeping Death picture disk (along with Blitzkrieg). Those were added to Kill ‘Em All for its 1987 reissue (subsequently removed on the 1996 reissue).

  • @milesdorst7120
    @milesdorst71207 ай бұрын

    If you remove from the Black Album the most “sellout-y” song or songs (Nothing Else Matters, maybe The Unforgiven, MAYBE Enter Sandman), we would all look back on it more fondly, yes it’s slower and less complicated but it kicks ass.

  • @RockWillo
    @RockWillo7 ай бұрын

    Reload is D really? I love it so much😢

  • @fliexvolkovan6704
    @fliexvolkovan67047 ай бұрын

    Mike Portnoy participating in every show recently since he rejoined Metallica 😂👍🏻

  • @alvarojflorez
    @alvarojflorez7 ай бұрын

    My list (just the main discography) S: Master, Ride, Justice A: Kill, Magnetic, Metallica B: Load, Hardwired D: Anger, Reload, 72 Seasons

  • @Amarth13
    @Amarth137 ай бұрын

    Load and Reload have some good deep cuts like Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, Low Man's Lyric and Fixxer. But they're are a lot of filler songs too. You could combine all the good songs from these two and make one high end B tier album. I always came from the mind frame that the only reason people don't like these albums is because it's Metallica and it's not their normal sound. If some new band had made these and sounded more or less the same, people would have had no problems with them.

  • @Nichwar19

    @Nichwar19

    2 ай бұрын

    B tier ahah funny. If you combine those 2 albums it's easily S tier.

  • @rahbeat9785
    @rahbeat97857 ай бұрын

    I love this era we live in where music legends just casually doing podcasts :)

  • @carlosnascimento9269
    @carlosnascimento92697 ай бұрын

    Kinda surprised by Mike's opinion on Load. I was expecting him to praise stuff like Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Same! Honestly, I think a few of the people here discounted Load before ever giving it a proper chance. It’s hard to go back and listen with fresh ears and expectations.

  • @faustomadebr

    @faustomadebr

    7 ай бұрын

    It is like a Venn Diagramm: they both love Metallica, but age, moment in life, they favorite music style etc. makes everything different and fun. Haha Mike comments on Killem all comes from discovering the album when it was fresh... For me, I knew the Black Album and a friend showed my Ride... blew my mind.

  • @skippy1564

    @skippy1564

    6 ай бұрын

    Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn & Fixxxer.. wtf Mike 😢

  • @asagheri
    @asagheri7 ай бұрын

    The Prince. One of the best cover songs of all time, so underrated in the Metallica catalogue!

  • @claycall1144

    @claycall1144

    7 ай бұрын

    I cant agree nor disagree. But Thank you Verry much for the recomendation! Bout to check it out

  • @JakeTerch

    @JakeTerch

    7 ай бұрын

    The mix that the AJFA album should’ve had. You can actually hear Jason!

  • @lewisgrant7622

    @lewisgrant7622

    Күн бұрын

    @@JakeTerchyep but instead lars was like bass? What bass. Cause you can’t fckin hear it on AJFA

  • @Ana198
    @Ana1987 ай бұрын

    Death put out Symbolic in 95 and The Sound of Perseverance in 98 their 2 best albums so not every metalband sucked in the late 90s. Obviously not too high profile compared to your Metallicas and Megadeths

  • @StefP.
    @StefP.7 ай бұрын

    As a major Metallica fan from my teens i really liked the approach of the Load album. It has deeper meaning lyrics, great compositions like the house that jack build, bleeding me and the outlaw torn. Also, the production of this album for me is a masterpiece, especially the rhythm guitars which sound so alive and crunchy with perfect amount of distortion.

  • @thesaguitarian9430
    @thesaguitarian94307 ай бұрын

    Agree with Mike Portnoy on the S&M. As someone who also listens to classical music, I feel like Michael Kamen composed a totally different piece instead of staying faithful to the motifs of the songs and compliment it. I remember watching it for the first time and it gave me a headache. Like listening to 2 different bands playing at the same time.

  • @whitey7998
    @whitey79987 ай бұрын

    Another superb show and so good to have Mike present again. With all of the commitments he has, it’s fantastic that he shares any of his down time with us. Love Kyle’s enthusiasm for the Load album 😂

  • 7 ай бұрын

    Lulu should be considered the worst album of all time.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    It’s up there for me. Certainly by a band of Metallica’s status.

  • @randyhenderson6166
    @randyhenderson61667 ай бұрын

    Great show, gentlemen! Great to see Mr. Portnoy on TPR and Sea of Tranquility.

  • @lawnboyfreak
    @lawnboyfreak7 ай бұрын

    You need to have Mike back to do the Megadeth wheel!

  • @iau

    @iau

    7 ай бұрын

    The Metallica+Megadeth album tier list has everything by Metallica in D

  • @kurtkluge1686

    @kurtkluge1686

    7 ай бұрын

    The wheel of Megadeth can't be rid they said, and if it comes the living will envy the dead.

  • @briantdaniel9280
    @briantdaniel92807 ай бұрын

    Ha! Mike, the reactions (thumbs up, fireworks, etc) are from your camera settings in MacOS. You can turn the auto reactions off.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    I have never seen those before! lol. I kept thinking Roie did it.

  • @YesOkayButWhy

    @YesOkayButWhy

    7 ай бұрын

    Without those funny moments of confusion, this video wouldn't have been elevated to S tier.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    @@YesOkayButWhy Ah man. Thanks for saying that. I don't know if I'd rank it in S Tier, but it's definitely the most fun I've had filming a podcast. And, to be clear, I'm always just joking with the other guys (and myself). We've been good buds for nearly a decade and this podcast filming came after a good week or two of arguing behind the scenes about our favorite (and least favorite) Metallica albums. The intended spirit of these podcasts is to be competitive and opinionated, but it's all supposed to be in good fun. Thanks for watching and I hope you come back!

  • @YesOkayButWhy

    @YesOkayButWhy

    7 ай бұрын

    @@KyleFagala ✌🏻❤

  • @osomusic
    @osomusic7 ай бұрын

    Not surprised Load and Reload were rated so low. They are criminally underrated, mostly by purists or people who "felt betrayed". It's more authentic then anything they released after 2000.

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    Death Magnetic is good

  • @osomusic

    @osomusic

    7 ай бұрын

    @@user-ih5jr8rt5q All the post Lulu stuff really sound and feel forced. The fans gave them so much shit so they tried to make something to please the fans, but they can't. It's not who they are anymore. It's not authentic at all.

  • @johnp82

    @johnp82

    7 ай бұрын

    As much as I hate them, they're definitely better quality albums and more organic sounding than anything they've made since.

  • @Andreascarnero
    @Andreascarnero7 ай бұрын

    I severely disagree on puting S&M that low. This is a live album and in my mind, quite separate from the bullshit released on the 90's (load and reload), and this album has (in my opinion) the best version of a lot of classics of the band (One and For whom the bell tolls included). For whom the bell tolls in this album is just incredible. It has the best guitar distortion of their career, all of them on their peak (phisically speaking) and James singing was on another level. Mike has a good point though....more technical view perhaps.....but the orchaestration is part of the equation, not everything. For me is S tier.

  • @Ricki_Snow

    @Ricki_Snow

    7 ай бұрын

    Easily S Tier

  • @maxhowlett9661

    @maxhowlett9661

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah S&M is amazing, genuinely think it's the best the band ever sounded. Also the 2 originals are absolute stormers and should be played more.

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    no doubt S -tier one of the greatest live albums ever

  • @theofiloshatzigiannis5308

    @theofiloshatzigiannis5308

    7 ай бұрын

    Load and reload are not bullshit jackass

  • @michaelh7453

    @michaelh7453

    7 ай бұрын

    It really belongs in T tier, just like the part 2. T for TRASH.

  • @gavinbuck8130
    @gavinbuck81307 ай бұрын

    Only yesterday I was thinking about Disposable Heroes, which came about after watching a Devin Townsend update in which described agonising over writing lyrics which got me thinking, "which tracks do I hold In high regard for their lyrical content?" Disposable heroes came to mind straight away, even the title itself is strong.

  • @Neo-Midgar
    @Neo-Midgar7 ай бұрын

    Prog channel, AJFA at #1, calling it. As it should be. Very interested to see where the post-03 material ends up.

  • @ryanjacobson2508
    @ryanjacobson25087 ай бұрын

    Had they put the best Load era songs on one album, and used the lesser songs as "bonus tracks" on special edition releases, people would have a better opinion of that era. Also, some of the quirky stuff on Re-Load holds up a lot better than the weird white trashy rockers on Load. Stuff like Ain't my Bitch, and especially 2X4.... Just an embarrassing aesthetic and musical dumbing down. King Nothing also just sounds boring and contrived to me nowadays.

  • @aaronjones4649
    @aaronjones46497 ай бұрын

    Considering you started with Metallica I think you should go onto Megadeth

  • @Kg30000

    @Kg30000

    7 ай бұрын

    Hear Hear!! 🤘🤘🤘

  • @BMR86
    @BMR867 ай бұрын

    Man! I had so much fun listening/watching this episode of wheel of ROCK lol I think you guys nailed the the list! For me, and I'm almost Kyle's age, the video for One was embedded in my brain as a 5 year old when it aired on MTv and I never forgot how dark it was... years later when I was fully capable of appreciating music, I listened to Load and it marked me, but through the force of nature I discovered their 80s albums and felt like I had found pure gold! So even if I was in my teens by then listening to a decade old music I knew that was Metallica's best music ever

  • @kingcyrusking
    @kingcyrusking7 ай бұрын

    i think the napster debacle actually started with the mission impossible soundtrack / i disappear.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    You're right. We misspoke.

  • @williamspence690
    @williamspence6907 ай бұрын

    I disappear is the song that triggered the Napster stuff.

  • @todds.6028
    @todds.60287 ай бұрын

    Every song on 72 season is decent. Every song on 72 seasons is not bad. Every song on 72 seasons is not good. In other words, it's just bland. It's the SAFEST record they've ever done. And, to my ears, it's also the first Metallica record that doesn't contain a single hook. It's just....boring.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    I tend to agree with you here. Metallica by numbers, I called it.

  • @Heluctis

    @Heluctis

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree 100%

  • @johnp82

    @johnp82

    7 ай бұрын

    Well if someone remixed half the songs on 72 Seasons by putting James' old vocals on them along with some old Kirk solos, the album gets better. Not saying someone did that.

  • @lucasgraeff5391
    @lucasgraeff53917 ай бұрын

    Im listening to this yet, but the dude saying that death magnetic with Rick rubin was good for audiophiles... What? The album is nearly meme material because the original release is almost inaudible.

  • @lewisgrant7622

    @lewisgrant7622

    Күн бұрын

    You mean because of the fact the production is so bad it makes your ears bleed

  • @CarlosDias-er6dd
    @CarlosDias-er6dd7 ай бұрын

    If S&M is included because the previously unreleased tracks, Beyond Magnetic EP should have been included. 😉

  • @caelmcleish1212

    @caelmcleish1212

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree. There’s some bangers on that EP

  • @kylehoulihan3875

    @kylehoulihan3875

    7 ай бұрын

    Them 4 songs would probably make the top 6 of death magnetic I don’t have a clue why they didn’t put them in

  • @bf9616
    @bf96167 ай бұрын

    I need a video on Black Sabbaths catalog! Thanks for sharing, loved yo see Portnoy back on the show!

  • @wastagwaga
    @wastagwaga7 ай бұрын

    They only have 4 albums (and a worthy ep), but I cannot recommend Oceansize enough. They definitely deserve more praise and recognition.

  • @HawksNHabsPC

    @HawksNHabsPC

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed I absolutely love Oceansize! Frames is one of my all time fav albums.

  • @jimmypage2843

    @jimmypage2843

    7 ай бұрын

    That last album killed Oceanside, it wasn't nearly as good as Frames, and I'm not surprised they broke up after that.

  • @HawksNHabsPC

    @HawksNHabsPC

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jimmypage2843 yeah Self Preserved wasn’t as good as the previous ones that’s for sure. Still some cool tracks though.

  • @ChrisLT

    @ChrisLT

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I still listen to the first album regularly. You Wish is such a killer track.

  • @stinghouseproductions8502
    @stinghouseproductions85027 ай бұрын

    So glad Mike isn't a wimp who is too afraid to give an honest review of an album from another band. He's a great guest on here.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Mike is the best podcast guest of all time. Zero ego and a huge fan at his core.

  • @liamg9334
    @liamg93347 ай бұрын

    PLEASE do a Megadeth list. Id love to see all the different takes on all the crazy directions Megadeth has gone. Also really would love to see a Symphony X list. Another band with a super varied catalogue.

  • @Kg30000

    @Kg30000

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m hoping to convince the crew on Megadeth!

  • @IHateNicolasCage
    @IHateNicolasCage7 ай бұрын

    It makes me extremely happy to see Death Magnetic ranked as highly as it is.

  • @007zen
    @007zen7 ай бұрын

    Does anyone else really wish they’d release the wheel episodes on the podcast feed? I often use tools to download and convert the videos to audio files and handle it myself but most people are not willing to go through all that effort.

  • @Kurotora86
    @Kurotora867 ай бұрын

    There were at least few epic albums that came out in 1997. Children of Bodom's debut "Something Wild" and Symphony X's "The Divine Wings of Tragedy" 😄

  • @Beyond-Antares

    @Beyond-Antares

    6 ай бұрын

    both incredible albums

  • @Silvernimbusstudio
    @Silvernimbusstudio7 ай бұрын

    Hell yea let's get portnoy back for a megadeth wheel next .

  • @mayh6825
    @mayh68257 ай бұрын

    Had a great time watching the vídeo, congrats guys! My personal ranking would be: S: Ride, Puppets, Justice A: Kill em All, Black Album, B: Death Magnetic, Garage, Hardwired C: Load, 72 Seasons D: Reload, St Anger, Lulu

  • @markcorrellii2002
    @markcorrellii20027 ай бұрын

    Of Wolf and Man and My Friend of Misery are my faves from the Black album.

  • @YesOkayButWhy
    @YesOkayButWhy7 ай бұрын

    The best part of this video is the Portnoy special FX mystery being solved just in time.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    LOL. Totally!

  • @user-wj9xq7ig2v
    @user-wj9xq7ig2v7 ай бұрын

    Wheel of thrash would only cover the first 4 albums. 5.98ep garage days should really be considered seperate than garage inc.

  • @yonson_racing
    @yonson_racing7 ай бұрын

    The ...and Justice for Jason version of AJFA is definitely S tier.

  • 7 ай бұрын

    I'm going to have to disagree with Mike here, Falling Into Infinity is from 97 and is a top tier album. Love you MP ❤

  • @colinburroughs9871

    @colinburroughs9871

    7 ай бұрын

    They didn't like making it- living that is probably why, the album and more over, the demos reflect that band doing it's best song writing- maybe not the heaviest or most technical side of the band, but songs..

  • @jezmarshall9725
    @jezmarshall97257 ай бұрын

    Im with Kyle on Load and Re-load, but then I was also a similar age... interesting AJFA was my first encounter with Metallica and then followed swiflty by Load and Reload.... sure they we're very different sounds but at the time... i didnt care... I just thought these guys are so cool... I loved it all.

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q
    @user-ih5jr8rt5q7 ай бұрын

    S - Black, Master, S&M A - Death Magnetic, Justice, Ride B - Kiill 'Em All, Load C - Garage, Reload D - Lulu, St. Anger, Lux, Hardwired

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    yes, you MUST listen to the uncompressed version of Death Magnetic yes! that mastery is tops, must must listen to it, guys!

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    wow, you guys who feel S&M is disconnected from the music, that's wild I LOVE IT, and think it is one of the greatest live albums ever the orchestration is great

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    Through the Never is sneaky one of their best songs

  • @YesOkayButWhy
    @YesOkayButWhy7 ай бұрын

    59:18 Mike Portnoy's Stewie pyjamas reveal

  • @joedolenza7944
    @joedolenza79447 ай бұрын

    Th song sequencing on side one of Ride is absolutely brilliant Awesome show guys!

  • @andreask3218
    @andreask32187 ай бұрын

    This was fun. Great show, guys👍🏻!

  • @alvarojflorez
    @alvarojflorez7 ай бұрын

    I'm with Kyle, I love Load and I would easily put in A tier.

  • @HawksNHabsPC
    @HawksNHabsPC7 ай бұрын

    I think load/reload can be made into 1 amazing album , same with hardwired/seasons. Top under appreciated Songs for me from those albums are outlaw torn, bleeding me, fixxxer, where the wild things are, Inamorata and spit out the bone. My tiers below: S - Justice, Puppets, Lightning A - Magnetic, Kill ‘em all, Black B - S&M, Load, Seasons C - Garage, Hardwired, Re-Load D - St Anger, Lulu

  • @escherpainting8622
    @escherpainting8622Ай бұрын

    Minor correction: While MoP and RTL are closely aligned in terms of their tracklisting, the instrumental isn't the penultimate song on RTL, it's the final track.

  • @alenmatkovic5190
    @alenmatkovic51907 ай бұрын

    Mike P and KG are the only ones with any brains on this thing.

  • @Kg30000

    @Kg30000

    7 ай бұрын

    We agree! 😂

  • @rogerdiz3520
    @rogerdiz35207 ай бұрын

    There is definitely a line of demarcation for Metallica and I'm in the Mike Portnoy camp. Being older, and having seen Metallica live in 1985 and many times later, load and reload was an off ramp for me from Metallica. It felt like a couple of big fuck yous to their longtime fans. When kill em all came out, it was one of a kind. The rawness of it was part of it's charm. Ride the lightning was a continuation with better production. Master of puppets was somewhat evolutionary and still great. All three were God tier. And justice for all would be s tier if Lars hadn't done Jayson a disservice by almost mixing out the bass, and compared to what was coming next, the black album was good in retrospect.

  • @marcbeil8342
    @marcbeil83427 ай бұрын

    S: 1 Master of puppets 2 Black Album A: 3 Ride the Lightning 4 72 seasons 5 St. Anger Love the pure aggression on it. To me it‘s like another debut album. More Garage than the garage Inc.! Totally with what Portnoy said. The bonus dvd version‘s got a killer drum sound and they‘re brutally nailing it. B: 6. And Justice for all (terrible trash can snare sound!) 7. Load 8. Kill em all C: 9. Hardwired 10. Garage Inc. (thx to the original 5.98 $ EP) 11. Death magnetic (shame it’s overmastered) D: 12. Reload 13. S&M 14. Lulu

  • @Adamov1
    @Adamov17 ай бұрын

    Great one, I have enjoyed watching every minute of it. I would love to see Riverside albums tier list!

  • @antoniokofoed7139
    @antoniokofoed71397 ай бұрын

    I love s&m but im a band nerd. And love michael kamen.

  • @blackmamba5659
    @blackmamba56597 ай бұрын

    36:12 bro I never thought Portnoy would go so hard on Load😂

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    I was surprised he didn’t like it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @eduardlevitsky
    @eduardlevitsky7 ай бұрын

    As always, an awesome watch!!! ❤

  • @fcrfortes
    @fcrfortes7 ай бұрын

    I dont get the defense for St Anger: It would be great If It wasnt bad?

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Hahaha. Exactly! It would be great if it didn’t sound like it does!! 😂

  • @2mrwario
    @2mrwario7 ай бұрын

    New to the channel had to comment. I watched for Mike but couldn't finish the video. Twenty minutes in and 72 seasons gets a B, you know where this video is going. Maybe some other albums will get ranked lower but I just can't take the rest seriously. These videos are only interesting if it's not all metallica fanboys. A nice mix of opinions. Not omg this is my fav band 72 seasons is practically a classic even though kirk sounds asleep.

  • @progreport

    @progreport

    7 ай бұрын

    You don’t know where this video is going actually.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Sorry you didn’t stick around. The discussion tempo picks up and albums end up getting swapped around later on. We all have different perspectives on these albums, just like you do.

  • @drsarana
    @drsarana7 ай бұрын

    Where can I find that remixed version of death magnetic that Mike talked about????

  • @freultwah

    @freultwah

    7 ай бұрын

    Google 'Death Magnetic GH3'

  • @nicoloenricorimoldi7425
    @nicoloenricorimoldi74257 ай бұрын

    That subtle dig at Falling Into Infinity from Mike Portnoy was funny; some things never change!

  • @faustomadebr

    @faustomadebr

    7 ай бұрын

    A daily dose of eMpTyV... Hahaha Love the album.

  • @BigDogWaddy
    @BigDogWaddy7 ай бұрын

    Love that Death Magnetic is finally getting it's love, it's A for sure, for me personally it's an S.

  • @jdryyz
    @jdryyz7 ай бұрын

    Yes, thanks for mentioning the "loudness" problem on Death Magnetic. The vinyl sounds better but it is still not where it should be. Wish they'd remaster this one.

  • @tombiby5892
    @tombiby58927 ай бұрын

    That wheel looks like a clickable banner ad from the nineties. And it even spins like it’s coming over a dial up modem.

  • @progreport

    @progreport

    7 ай бұрын

    Sorry Netflix cut our special effects budget.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    lol. Please find us a better wheel and we will use it!

  • @jamieheim8009
    @jamieheim80097 ай бұрын

    I was/am one of those, that when the news broke, was pumped as hell. DT needs Mike Portnoy!!! Thank God it came to life!!!

  • @TDAshton
    @TDAshton7 ай бұрын

    If Load and Reload was made by any other band in the 90’s, it would get far more love. Even a first or sophomore release for a new band, it would be considered amazing. I think it would have made a much better solo album. Also, I don’t get why people include Lulu. It is not a metallica album! It’s a collaboration with Lou Reed. It stands on its own as a pile of crap. I loved this though!

  • @locsbcn
    @locsbcn7 ай бұрын

    Agree but I would rank Black Album on S and 72 seasons on D. The first half of Hardwired is A.

  • @Leto1988
    @Leto1988Ай бұрын

    my all time favorites from Load/Reload: LOAD: - House that Jack Built - Until it Sleeps - King Nothing - Bleeding Me - Thorn Within - Outlaw Torn RELOAD: - The Devil's Dance - Unforgiven II - Carpe Diem Baby - Low Man's Lyric - Fixxxer (god damit!)

  • @filipdzero8739
    @filipdzero87397 ай бұрын

    "only 3 albums per tier" or not, all of the 80s stuff is S-tier compared to most of latter outputs, tbh. Intrigued to see where Death Magnetic lands!

  • @jimborocks8372
    @jimborocks83727 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video guys. I haven't watched a 100min KZread video in a very long time but I was hooked on this. Very knowledgeable men talking about the greatest metal band of all time. Addictive viewing. I'm off to listen to all 14 albums back to back. 😂

  • @Relocrian
    @Relocrian7 ай бұрын

    Please, I think you are the best people to do it, and consider it: DT's tier list of albums without him.

  • @progreport

    @progreport

    7 ай бұрын

    We did DT a few months ago.

  • @Relocrian

    @Relocrian

    7 ай бұрын

    @@progreport Yes I know, I saw it, but I meant an episode where Mike makes his Mangini era list. I expressed myself wrong, sorry 😄

  • @progreport

    @progreport

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Relocrian Oh, gotcha. Doubtful :)

  • @Relocrian

    @Relocrian

    7 ай бұрын

    @@progreport Probably, but I think you are the only ones capable of convincing Mike to comment on which track he likes the most from each of those albums. There are songs that DT will play live from the non-portnoy era and he will have to learn them. Just a thought 😉

  • @dudee499

    @dudee499

    7 ай бұрын

    @@RelocrianHe doesn't have to. They may have to leave quite a few songs out or bring a totally new life to them (which might serve them well)

  • @vallaindigital
    @vallaindigital7 ай бұрын

    Liked this episode! I never got into post-black-album Metallica, but the first five will always be metal favorites of mine, with Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets being tied as my top favs. I think the next logical band for a metal episode would be Iron Maiden. Cheers!

  • @LungMing23
    @LungMing234 ай бұрын

    So cool to see Mike hanging out with these guys!

  • @NPC-30
    @NPC-307 ай бұрын

    Why is LuLu in there? Also I disagreed with 11 of your choices 🤣

  • @tjcaruthers5593
    @tjcaruthers55937 ай бұрын

    The Napster thing started with the leaked release of I Disapear from the Mission Impossible 2 soundtrack.

  • @mixolydiano8954
    @mixolydiano89547 ай бұрын

    This is the last hurrah (and album/tour). It's definitely gonna be a go big or go home kit.

  • @Mulukkis
    @Mulukkis7 ай бұрын

    I dont get the hate for Load. Its my favorite Metallica album and the only one Ive listened to in recent years.

  • @TwallThePk
    @TwallThePk7 ай бұрын

    We need a wheel of metal !!

  • @abbieandus
    @abbieandus7 ай бұрын

    I Disappear from Mission Impossible 2 was the Napster leak /m\ . Good as always.

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep. You’re right!

  • @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    @user-ih5jr8rt5q

    7 ай бұрын

    I had sooo much bootlegs and lost it

  • @ledzep9501
    @ledzep95017 ай бұрын

    Load is a masterpiece and reload follows behind... Melodies, solos, atmosphere, different exciting times...

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @Classic_DionysuS
    @Classic_DionysuS7 ай бұрын

    Bleeding Me... Outlaw Torn... Fixxxer .. Prince charming

  • @chrisfelix7257
    @chrisfelix72577 ай бұрын

    Welcome back to dream theatre Mike 🤟😎

  • @delightbydelusion
    @delightbydelusion7 ай бұрын

    My main issue with both Load and Reload is the amount of fillers. I made a playlist called Unload with eight songs from both and honestly it's a better album then either originals. The tracklisting is of course based on my own opinion, but it's: Side A 1. Fixxxer 2. The House that Jack Built 3. Devil's Dance 4. Carpe Diem Baby Side B 1. King Nothing 2. Where the Wild Things Are 3. Thorn Within 4. The Outlaw Torn

  • @nicholaskruger9460
    @nicholaskruger94607 ай бұрын

    I was 17 and working on a house (our house) and this 18 year old from my dad’s friend and he put on a master of puppets cassette. I was floored. I was like … finally done great heavy stuff. It came at the hieght of glam and I was going back In time looking for great music. To me master came out and saved modern music then Janes addiction live xxx album in 87’ and appetite came out in 87’. Hard rock was saved by those three to me. Then dirty ass grunge came in 89’. I went opposite of progressive. I wanted simple and wild.

  • @dudee499
    @dudee4997 ай бұрын

    Kyle doesn't stop talking when he gets aggitated lol AND talks over the spinning wheel!

  • @KyleFagala

    @KyleFagala

    7 ай бұрын

    Hahaha. What can I say?? I’m a passionate person. 😅😂

  • @ProgSnob14
    @ProgSnob147 ай бұрын

    Excellent episode, always great to hear inside baseball from Mike Portnoy.

  • @claycall1144
    @claycall11447 ай бұрын

    I almost gave up on Metalica until they HAPPILY surprised me with Death Magnetic. They should work with Rick Rubin again

  • @rodrigoconcha9
    @rodrigoconcha97 ай бұрын

    do a Flower Kings tier list next :) with Mike if possible

  • @jimmypage2843

    @jimmypage2843

    7 ай бұрын

    No one wants to listen through all those double albums of dreck.

  • @rodrigoconcha9

    @rodrigoconcha9

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jimmypage2843 👍 ok buddy

  • @ooPETERo
    @ooPETERo7 ай бұрын

    Great video! I would love to see this for Riverside, but I understand about them maybe not having enough material yet

  • @tmc1054
    @tmc10547 ай бұрын

    None of their covers are better than the originals. A band that started ferociously and continued to deliver till Justice and then faded fast. S - Puppets. Ride the Lightning. The Black Album. A - Kill Em All. And Justice. B - Garage Days. Hardwired. Load. C - Death Magnetic. 72 Seasons. Garage Inc. D - Reload. St Anger. Lulu.