What Would Walt Do? - The 1984 Disney Hostile Takeover Attempt Part 1

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In December of 1966 Walt Disney passed away, leaving Walt Disney Productions stunned and with one question: What now? "What Would Walt Do?" was a mantra that guided Walt Disney Productions through the following 24 years, but it was also the question that set them up as the targets of a hostile takeover attempt in one of their most tumultuous years ever: 1984.
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Taylor, John. Storming the Magic Kingdom: Wall Street, The Raiders, and the Battle for Disney. Ballantine Books, 1988.
Stewart, James B. Disney WarW. Simon & Schuster Paperbacks, 2006.
“Arvida being cut loose”, Fort Lauderdale News, 19 Dec 1983, p9
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“They called in the Texans, risked every cent, then won”, The Miami Herald, 28 Nov 1983, p7
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“Disney takeover threat ends”, The Dispatch (Moline, Illinois), 05 Oct 1984, p30

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  • @KiwiLeeScipio
    @KiwiLeeScipio4 жыл бұрын

    Jim Korkis once said, "Today you hear people talk about 'thinking outside the box.' But Walt would say, "NO! Don't think outside the box! Once you say that, you've established that there is a box.' Walt would refuse to accept the existence of the box."

  • @BradChristianTV
    @BradChristianTV4 жыл бұрын

    This has a feeling like it’s a continuation of the Imagineering story on Disney+

  • @PatThePerson

    @PatThePerson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lots of great content on Disney history on here.

  • @singlerideradventures6621
    @singlerideradventures66214 жыл бұрын

    It's a pretty simple answer to the question of "What would Walt do?" He would INNOVATE. Create. Take risks. Create a product that audiences didn't even know they wanted. And develop new technologies to exhibit those creations in a totally new way. You can't expect just anybody to be as great of an innovator as Walt, but at the very least Disney should always be led by someone who is guided by those principles.

  • @UmmYeahOk

    @UmmYeahOk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which is why I like Eisner. A lot of people hated him, but he dabbled in so many different things. Some failed, some succeeded, some succeeded after he left.

  • @bigred3164

    @bigred3164

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@UmmYeahOk That's more than we can say of ol' Bobby Boy.

  • @Pantheragem

    @Pantheragem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bigred3164 Yep. Bobby doesn't have a creative bone in his body.

  • @Pantheragem

    @Pantheragem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Philip Kippel Ok. I'll love Iger, because you told me to, and I always do what I'm told.

  • @Sakura_Matou

    @Sakura_Matou

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@UmmYeahOk I like Eisner too, love him or hate him he saved the company and was front and center like Walt. Guests knew who he was and he had a Walt style of approaching things in some ways.

  • @MattMcIrvin
    @MattMcIrvin4 жыл бұрын

    Huh... just realized that the first Touchstone hit and the first big Disney Renaissance film were both about mermaids.

  • @beethovensfidelio

    @beethovensfidelio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, part of the reason that “The Little Mermaid” almost didn’t get made was that then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner & then-Disney chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg were both concerned that it was too similar to “Splash”. Eisner even said so himself in his memoir “Work In Progress: Risking Failure, Surviving Success”: *”I had always loved the idea of setting an animated movie underwater, but both Jeffrey and I were concerned that this idea sounded too much like the live-action ‘Splash’, which Disney had released early in 1984, six months before we arrived.”* And well, they’re not wrong: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z39pwdWAqsbRpsY.html

  • @beethovensfidelio

    @beethovensfidelio

    4 жыл бұрын

    In fact, Ariel was originally going to have blonde hair (see Buzzfeed link below), but she was given red hair instead in order to distinguish herself from the blonde mermaid Madison (played by Daryl Hannah) in "Splash". www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/take-a-magical-look-at-the-concept-art-used-to-make-the

  • @pickles3128
    @pickles31284 жыл бұрын

    20 seconds in and while talking about Walt's sudden cancer death you show footage of him next to a sign saying "Stage 4." Verry subtle...

  • @mzmegazone

    @mzmegazone

    4 жыл бұрын

    I came here to say the same thing. Either very subtle if deliberate, or a strange coincidence.

  • @thebunnyfoofoo
    @thebunnyfoofoo4 жыл бұрын

    Rob, I interned at Disney in 1999 and we had to take weekly classes about Disney corporate culture back in those days (not sure the current college program mandates such classes). In class they told us that Disney was offered Star Wars, but they turned it down to make Herby the Love Bug. They also told us that they did not really advertise the parks, and that, when they did, they focused on first time visitors instead of repeat visitors. The instructor showed us a commercial with fast talker John Moschitta, Jr. The commercial did not garner the results Disney wanted. Then Disney wanted to have a commercial featuring the Cosby's but they could not get Bill Cosby (either for financial reasons or he was contractually obligated elsewhere, I do not remember why they could not get Bill). So they had all of the Cosby family minus Bill. They used the family because they were the most popular family on television at the time. However, the unintentionally struck a chord with many demographics such as single parent families, African Americans, teenagers and repeat Disney patrons. In class, they said after the Cosby commercial, the company really revisited how they marketed the theme parks.

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez92164 жыл бұрын

    It's odd, the whole "What Would Walt Do?" seem to restrict and even hurt Disney. And now, people want it back.

  • @Taydar
    @Taydar4 жыл бұрын

    An often overlooked but very important part of Disney history

  • @SuperMakki
    @SuperMakki4 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the next part! As the series will show, Ron Miller gets a lot of the blame for the takeover disaster, but let's not forget movies like Dragonslayer, Tron, and Watcher in the Woods were made under his watch. He was the executive who understood what Walt would have done: something else!

  • @IsaacCarlson
    @IsaacCarlson4 жыл бұрын

    I'm excited for this series!

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @grinningtiki220
    @grinningtiki2204 жыл бұрын

    What would Walt do? "We don't make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies "

  • @notchuckproductions5029
    @notchuckproductions50294 жыл бұрын

    Here’s the prefect example on how much cultural shift of the 1970s. The most successful animated film of the entire decade was the indie X rated film Fritz The Cat

  • @mattrost2574
    @mattrost25744 жыл бұрын

    Walt wouldn't have approved of Iger's $160,000/day salary, nor would he have allowed the forcing of smokers to queue through a security checkpoint after every smoke break.

  • @KK-nu8id

    @KK-nu8id

    2 ай бұрын

    oh boo hoo you will last without a cigarette and if not thats on you. how entitled do you have to be to think you deserve to pull out a cigarette and light it in a park full of 60k+ people? your problem is not anyone elses.

  • @kurtperleberf6983
    @kurtperleberf69834 жыл бұрын

    This is what the Walt Disney company was doing in 1984: Toyko Disneyland was a massive success Epcot center was doing well Card Tatum was CEO The Disney Channel was new But only 3 films were coming out a year.

  • @MattMcIrvin

    @MattMcIrvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it almost seems like the fortunes of the theme-park and film divisions moved in opposition to one another.

  • @edvaira6891

    @edvaira6891

    4 жыл бұрын

    The CEO was named CARD WALKER, not Tatum (that was Donn Tatum, a different Disney executive)

  • @kurtperleberf6983

    @kurtperleberf6983

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@edvaira6891 sorry about that.but by 1984 were any of Disney's recent films any good?

  • @MattMcIrvin

    @MattMcIrvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    People keep complaining that Disney's recent attractions are all based on IP they own instead of original concepts, but I think the only reason Disney even built a bunch of rides based on original concepts around this time was that they just didn't have much going on at the movies. There was some representation--they had Winnie-the-Pooh walking around and Pete's Dragon in the Electrical Parade. But if their current movies of the 1970s had been as popular as Frozen or the Star Wars sequels or the MCU, you can bet they'd be using them in new rides somehow.

  • @beethovensfidelio

    @beethovensfidelio

    4 жыл бұрын

    What about the creation of “Touchstone Pictures”? Also, there were no new Disney films in 1984; only re-releases of “Pete’s Dragon”, “The Jungle Book”, and “Pinocchio” (which was only put there because “Black Cauldron” got pushed back from Christmas 1984 to July 1985). The only “Touchstone” movies out that year were “Splash” and “Country”.

  • @holbrooke7
    @holbrooke74 жыл бұрын

    Why did I feel this delivered more of a punch than "The Imagineering Story"? Great job, Rob. 👍

  • @icecreamhero2375

    @icecreamhero2375

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because that is a commerical and this is more unbiased and factual.

  • @averyeml

    @averyeml

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Imagineering story was good because I saw people I hadn’t seen before and they had footage and materials these KZreadrs could never get access to, but it was so over the top cheesy and admiring while also not going NEARLY as in depth as I’d hoped. I found myself surprised that I knew these wild stories about the rides/eras they were talking about but they didn’t even hint at them. These guys do a lot better with a lot less.

  • @Abbimation.
    @Abbimation.4 жыл бұрын

    That’s damn ironic that Disney owns Star Wars now, especially the original Star Wars film, I’m not kidding!

  • @KaminoKatie

    @KaminoKatie

    9 ай бұрын

    It's almost like Disney wanted to undo the mistake they made when they initially turned it down

  • @DDRWakaLaka
    @DDRWakaLaka3 жыл бұрын

    just over a year later and I'm still totally in love with this documentary this is really some of your best work

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican4 жыл бұрын

    Splash, we wouldn't have the name Splash Mountain if it wasn't for that movie

  • @beethovensfidelio

    @beethovensfidelio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Avery the Cuban-American Ironic since in “Splash” Tom Hanks sings “Zip A Dee Doo Dah” after he’s gotten so much nookie from Madison. It happens! 😂 Source: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6ujq7urdrO9aco.html

  • @JoseLHernandezJ
    @JoseLHernandezJ4 жыл бұрын

    I hate this, i hate that Bob Iger is the most successful CEO BECAUSE he is Safe, 0 risks, unlike Walt which was mlre about pleasing his dreams, than the shareholders which were the same people that if it were for them we wouldn't have anything that matters nowadays.

  • @RiverRev

    @RiverRev

    4 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree. Iger has PURCHASED strength rather than developing it. Pixar was a "wheelhouse" pick, but the others purchases, while diversifying the company have not added to the foundational company.

  • @Pantheragem

    @Pantheragem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RiverRev When we look back, this era will be referred to as "The Age of Acquisition".

  • @RiverRev

    @RiverRev

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Pantheragem Totally agree. If you can't make it; buy it. Sadly, I think they could make it if they tried, but it's easier to buy.

  • @Clay3613

    @Clay3613

    4 жыл бұрын

    Iger is so bad at balancing creativity with original IP's within the parks. Movies are good though excluding the remakes.

  • @icecreamhero2375

    @icecreamhero2375

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well he made good decisions at least disney bought pixar, a whole generation of people grew up on marvel movies, Disney got Ozwald back.

  • @MattMcIrvin
    @MattMcIrvin4 жыл бұрын

    The montage from 3:30 to 4:30 is the Disney of my childhood--such a strange, dorky era, but it evokes a weird nostalgia.

  • @MarkVerstappen93

    @MarkVerstappen93

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have the exact same even though I was born in 1993. My mother loved Dean Jones and thus in my childhood I've seen all Disney movies Herbie and/or Dean Jones were in. There were a lot of those in that era!

  • @MattMcIrvin

    @MattMcIrvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkVerstappen93 For years I thought Ken Berry was Dean Jones, because in "The Cat from Outer Space" he had the Dean Jones part.

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor16034 жыл бұрын

    I was 17 years old when that "drama" unfolded. Yes! Walt was as unpredictable as a tornado when it came to what would be new on the horizon. One thing was a "constant"... storytelling. He didn't like gags for gags sake, it had to move the story along. He also (plussed) whatever he was doing and was a forward thinker. He knew TV would soon turn to color & made that switch from ABC to NBC. As they say, lead, follow, or get "left behind". That was the crossroads for Disney back then.

  • @icecreamhero2375

    @icecreamhero2375

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love jokes that movie the story forward but throw away gags can be awesome it works for Disney's Family Guy.

  • @RealAccioNimbus2000
    @RealAccioNimbus20004 жыл бұрын

    Tron is such a great film. Walt probably wouldn’t have made it, but the technological advances in use of back-lit animation and CGI and the experimental nature of the film is closer to Walt’s legacy than What would Walt do. Releasing it in the summer of 82 was a bad idea, just look at all the famous movies of that summer, if they had kept its original 82 December release, I bet Tron would’ve made a lot more.

  • @Clay3613
    @Clay36134 жыл бұрын

    The trailer for and the ending of The Black Hole are very scary for any movie.

  • @robertporter6641
    @robertporter66414 жыл бұрын

    I would be curious to imagine the company’s trajectory had Walt never died. In a hypothetical world where the secret to immortality had been discovered, what would a Walt Disney Corporation in 2020 still under the leadership of Walt Disney look like?

  • @PatThePerson

    @PatThePerson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps we would have more Disneylands if he realized how popular his parks are

  • @matismf

    @matismf

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have no doubt he would have celebrated Miley Cyrus, and would have put a wrecking ball in every park!!!

  • @raphaelmarquez9650

    @raphaelmarquez9650

    4 жыл бұрын

    A more realistic approach would be what would the company do throughout the 70's and 80's had Walt didn't die from lung cancer and lived just a little longer.

  • @Tryingtohaveityall
    @Tryingtohaveityall4 жыл бұрын

    You half jokingly say it on nearly every podcast but seriously Bob Iger needs to hire you as you put out consistently excellent content.

  • @Gilinator
    @Gilinator4 жыл бұрын

    I fell asleep watching computer videos and left it on autoplay and somehow it autoplayed a video of you and now I have several hours of your videos in my history lmao

  • @Gigabitz
    @Gigabitz4 жыл бұрын

    Rob, this series is incredible! The writing, the clips, the editing, the music - top notch!

  • @JobberJim
    @JobberJim4 жыл бұрын

    Would Walt be ok with ticket prices being over $200 for single person entry?

  • @SugarRush1990
    @SugarRush19904 жыл бұрын

    Noo, why does it have to be a 2 parter?!?! This was really good! Can't wait for the rest!

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s actually a five parter! Part two should be out in a week.

  • @Mcbebblestin

    @Mcbebblestin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ad revenue

  • @tophermagellan6017
    @tophermagellan60174 жыл бұрын

    I loved that Disney kept the safe movies. I mean think at how people love them.Plus don't even get me started on the price increased at WDW parks.

  • @supraoleg7
    @supraoleg74 жыл бұрын

    Love the longer videos!

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin14 жыл бұрын

    Funny, The Black Hole always reminds me more of 20,000 Leagues Below the Sea than it does Star Wars.

  • @Pantheragem

    @Pantheragem

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. It's actually "Dante's Inferno" in space. The parallels are too many to ignore. They even mention it in the movie.

  • @MattMcIrvin

    @MattMcIrvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Black Hole was a project that had been in development for a while when Star Wars came out, then got a huge budget thrown at it when everyone suddenly decided there was a market for big space movies, which is probably why the Star Wars-esque elements feel pasted on by committee. It's definitely a bit of 20,000 Leagues, a bit of horror and pop-religious allegory with influence from 2001: A Space Odyssey and Forbidden Planet, and a bit of Star Wars, and it doesn't all fit together. Some of the effects and John Barry's score are absolutely gorgeous, though.

  • @Pantheragem

    @Pantheragem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MattMcIrvin Hell yes to Barry's score. Absolutely haunting. As a kid, that hordes of hell ending was the scariest thing I'd ever seen.

  • @Waterboyofsuperman
    @Waterboyofsuperman2 жыл бұрын

    The Black Hole was relatively violent also, though perhaps not too bloody. Lots of lasers and quite a bit of death.

  • @rustyshackleford7808
    @rustyshackleford78083 ай бұрын

    Crazy how history tends to repeat itself

  • @kurtkatie1830
    @kurtkatie18304 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I read Disney War and Storming the Magic Kingdom on your recommendation. The only bad thing about this video is I want to bing watch the rest;-)

  • @BelieveLFy
    @BelieveLFy4 жыл бұрын

    I am excited for part 2!

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully won't have to wait long! The full five parts are already researched and part two is already written. So I'm aiming to put out a new park each week.

  • @UmmYeahOk

    @UmmYeahOk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course! We need to see the happy ending.

  • @scottymeuk

    @scottymeuk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidwaytoMainStreet A new park each week! Well now i am even more excited! ha

  • @BelieveLFy

    @BelieveLFy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you mean park or *part ?

  • @jtstacey83
    @jtstacey832 жыл бұрын

    That's what Disney is missing today, and that is a creative force. Walt was someone who never stopped dreaming or imagining what tomorrow could be. The money from Disney allowed him to do that and push the boundaries of technology to make his visions happen. This is why Disney stock would shoot up immediately after his death, as he was willing to spend what he made to keep moving the company forward. As much as people like to give Eisner grief, he was kind of like this in his own way. Think Walt Disney lite. As Eisner was constantly looking for creative ways to grow the company and why he was able to turn the studio around and revitalize the theme parks. Iger was neither of these things, but he was a great manager. Iger knew how to handle people and build relationships both in the industry and outside of it. Chapek is none of these things. He is showing the public as he had made one wrong move after another concerning relationships with the talent, issues concerning cost-cutting inside the parks while cutting back on every perk Disney has provided guests over the decades of the park.

  • @AXander1978
    @AXander19784 жыл бұрын

    Card Walker wasn't raiding the Animation division for live action remakes and Miller wasn't shoving cartoons whereverer in the parks

  • @bjvincent8786
    @bjvincent87864 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how Walt Disney would have felt about an upscale residential community being built within the Walt Disney World Resort called Golden Oak.

  • @Genevieve0880
    @Genevieve08804 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, this is really well planned. Its nice to see the footage of Walt working with imagineers, or of those TV specials he did. This is very informative, and well written. Great job, Rob.

  • @stewarthall2981
    @stewarthall29814 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I love your presentation style. I can't help but feel like this was all information you have covered in previous videos, and I'm hoping this is just setting the stage for parts 2,3,etc. - which I'm excited to see.

  • @rellister131
    @rellister1314 жыл бұрын

    Very good, high quality videos. We all appreciate the effort you take in making these.

  • @JoyfulLivingwithJenLefforge
    @JoyfulLivingwithJenLefforge4 жыл бұрын

    Two things: 1. this was amazing and thank you and 2. as a 1970's kid the films that weren't so great were my favorites. Just tried to show my kids Snowball Express and they were bored to tears. Upon retrospect, I will admit it wasn't maybe THAT good of a film. Huh.

  • @UmmYeahOk

    @UmmYeahOk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try to show them the animated classics. I swear, everything that’s not CGI is boring to my daughter. Where did I go wrong?!?

  • @paulrobinson1458

    @paulrobinson1458

    4 жыл бұрын

    My 8 yo just watched Candleshoe with me recently and she LOVED it. Then a week later she asked to watch it again. I was so pleased because I loved that film when I was her age. Candleshoe is a rare quality film from that era. When it was over, Disney+ showed us a preview for The Cat from Outer Space, and my daughter thought that looked stupid (she’s not wrong).

  • @UmmYeahOk

    @UmmYeahOk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Paul Robinson that takes me back to the glory days of MGM Studios. Long ago, when you entered the park, on the left, there was this sort of small house gift shop. Now it’s their photo pass store, but back then they sold all sorts of movie memorabilia. On the porch was their most affordable - original movie posters. I ended up buying The Cat From Outer Space. I never saw it, but I liked the title and the artwork. The cashier told me to be very careful with it as, being an original, there was only so many in existence, making me believe what I had was rare. It survived the journey back home, and I hung it on my wall via double sided tape hoping to one day get a frame for it. Well, one day it fell, and my cat ate it. I swear! “That Darn Cat” ate “The Cat From Outer Space!!!”

  • @paulrobinson1458

    @paulrobinson1458

    4 жыл бұрын

    UmmYeahOk that’s so tragic and funny. I remember that store very well. It was so much fun to look through (and sometimes buy from).

  • @MattMcIrvin

    @MattMcIrvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@UmmYeahOk I confess, I loved "The Cat from Outer Space". I was 10 when it came out and not too cool for cornball goofy stuff, I guess. I found most of their live-action comedies from that era boring, but the science-fiction angle probably kept me interested.

  • @scottymeuk
    @scottymeuk4 жыл бұрын

    Excited for part 2!

  • @wastelanddv8062
    @wastelanddv80624 жыл бұрын

    I’ve meet one of Walt and Roy’s cousins. I saw the last name and was like Disney? That Disney? The said yes they were cousins. Just a some what interesting story.

  • @jpd632
    @jpd6324 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Rob. Excited to see where you take this!

  • @DuchessRococoPuff
    @DuchessRococoPuff4 жыл бұрын

    Loving your more recent long form stuff! This is great!

  • @FFLapin
    @FFLapin4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video, Can’t wait for part 2!!

  • @adrianelee8595
    @adrianelee85954 жыл бұрын

    Such a cliffhanger! Really nice storytelling. Excited for part 2.

  • @vikingshelm
    @vikingshelm4 жыл бұрын

    Great video so far man... This story always saddens me, as it caused so much damage between cousins who were at one time close, but also b.c this was the downward spiral of thr company, and it's only spiraled further down since.

  • @XanderLovecraft
    @XanderLovecraft4 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to part two!

  • @trentwerner366
    @trentwerner3664 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this series Rob!

  • @amandaf.2859
    @amandaf.28594 жыл бұрын

    Great as always Rob!

  • @philippecaron7434
    @philippecaron74344 жыл бұрын

    love the new show. Great storytelling Rob

  • @thewildeoscar
    @thewildeoscar4 жыл бұрын

    I'm digging that the storming the kingdom book is still getting play. read it when it first came out, which is many years ago. It was a literal saving of the kingdoms from being sold off for parts.

  • @areyouwatchingluke
    @areyouwatchingluke4 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for part 2!

  • @TitoTimTravels
    @TitoTimTravels4 жыл бұрын

    I still think those early 1970s movies are some of the best! We have DisneyLife (not plus) in the Philippines and very little pre-90s content is available. It is not even worth the $3 a month ha ha. 😎

  • @beethovensfidelio
    @beethovensfidelio4 жыл бұрын

    9:44-9:47 Gotta love your captions on Tom Hanks (“America’s Dad”, “National Treasure”) to show the dissonance of someone so wholesome being in a movie involving a prostitution joke! 😂

  • @lesgobrandon
    @lesgobrandon4 жыл бұрын

    Subbed. Great delivery. Can’t wait for the rest.

  • @iamSketchH
    @iamSketchH3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair--Walt Disney was all about doing new creative stuff, but he wouldn't have been interested in R rated films (gore, swearing, and sex isn't exactly what most people would consider "creative"). This was a guy who tried animation, then with sound, with color, animated, live action, theme parks---he liked to be up-to-date with revolutionary tech. But his demand was that it all remained family oriented--that ANYONE could watch it (which also gave him a larger target audience, just as it does today). Besides, "Adults are only kids grown up anyway." --Walt Disney. Pixar proved that this is still true (before Disney purchased them) since they often were out grossing other kid and even adult films without throwing in a swear word in the hopes it made them look cool and hip. Ultimately, it's the creativity and heart as well as the presentation that attracts people. Not just recycling the same graphics, morals, and story variations while throwing in a little naughty sensationalism to rattle things up. The creation of Touchstone and Buena Vista for more adult movies, though, wasn't a bad idea. Neither was Disney. Miller was good. The people running it now... I'd say how I feel about them, but it's not family friendly.

  • @Mogwai-fy7ut

    @Mogwai-fy7ut

    3 жыл бұрын

    According to Ron Miller in an interview with the “Nob Hill Gazette” (see link below), he created the label “Touchstone Pictures” after he witnessed his father-in-law Walt Disney being frustrated that he could never make a film like 1962’s “To Kill A Mockingbird”, due to it clashing with the studio’s family-friendly, wholesome ethos: *”I watched the frustration with Walt, the fact that he had cornered himself by being a G-rated company while all these other companies are making … films dealing with sex and things like that. We had tunnel vision and we could not break apart from that. One day, Walt called and said ‘I’ve got a film I’m running tonight, why don’t you come on over?’ So Diane and I, we went over there. The film was ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. When it was over Walt said, ‘Damn, I wish I could make a film like that.’ But he couldn’t.”* *”But he would cross that line. So the first thing I did - I think it opened a lot of doors - was name a second label, Touchstone.”* nobhillgazette.com/the-interview-with-ron-miller-life-in-the-magic-kingdom/

  • @KaminoKatie

    @KaminoKatie

    9 ай бұрын

    You gotta remember that the Hays Code was in full effect when Walt Disney was hitting it big with his movies

  • @iamSketchH

    @iamSketchH

    9 ай бұрын

    @@KaminoKatie That's true, but he's probably one of the SUPPORTERS of the Hays Code. He discussed in an interview how he used to take his daughters to theme parks (back before the creation of Disneyland) and would be disgusted at all the stuff that was there where kids could see it--to include alcohol being sold and such. He said that he believed it was terrible, and it was one of the biggest inspirations of designing the "family friendly" Disneyland--where there was nothing inappropriate for children like in regular theme parks. It's also why he fell out of love with Disneyland and decided to create Disney World--because he felt Disneyland (being so close to the city) was being tainted by advertisements, hotels, and other things. With Disney WORLD, it could even more be free of the outside "adult" world--where kids could be kids and adults could re-live the innocence of childhood. I'm telling you, "family friendly" was the one and only goal of Walt Disney. To make a world for escapism so people didn't have to think about how sucky the real world was--if even just for an afternoon or weekend. Something that made people feel clean and wholesome. Sometimes, everyone just needs a break.

  • @leonarddionne1365
    @leonarddionne13654 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic job Rob!

  • @Narutocoolcat
    @Narutocoolcat4 жыл бұрын

    Want more now!

  • @MovieEnforcer
    @MovieEnforcer4 жыл бұрын

    I miss Michael Eisner. He wasn’t perfect. But much better than Bob Iger.

  • @sillygoose635

    @sillygoose635

    3 жыл бұрын

    Idk, Bob is great.

  • @donalddestiny9017

    @donalddestiny9017

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sillygoose635 no, He made Disney the same now as it was under late Eisner. They both suck.

  • @magicaldays7099
    @magicaldays70994 жыл бұрын

    We think Disney has and still is doing a great job at keeping all of Disney the MOST HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH!!!!

  • @teddyfurstman1997
    @teddyfurstman19974 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Disney vid. I'm going to Disney World for the first time this year in October or December. RIP Walt Disney. I can't blame them for making these theme parks so expensive.

  • @jhentoniii
    @jhentoniii4 жыл бұрын

    Keep you the excellant work...

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck4 жыл бұрын

    Good. I look forward to Part 2

  • @oxymoronx
    @oxymoronx4 жыл бұрын

    amazing video which has totally come out already!

  • @ClaudioKFreitas
    @ClaudioKFreitas4 жыл бұрын

    Rob, congrats, you're are awesome.

  • @PrinsessePeach
    @PrinsessePeach4 жыл бұрын

    Really great video! 😁👌👍💖

  • @TheCh0psueyy
    @TheCh0psueyy4 жыл бұрын

    Why am I just now seeing this? At least now i can binge watch them!

  • @Av-vd3wk
    @Av-vd3wk4 жыл бұрын

    Solid job man! Great use of music by the way. How do you research topics like this one? Talk to lots of people or read old books, newspapers, etc?

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Lots of books and newspaper articles for this series!

  • @dmtumbli
    @dmtumbli4 жыл бұрын

    great video... can't wait for Part 2!!!

  • @kellyweingart3692

    @kellyweingart3692

    4 жыл бұрын

    “We call it Ep-cot, E-P-C-O-T”

  • @kellyweingart3692

    @kellyweingart3692

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Experimental...Prototype...Community..Of..Tomorrow”

  • @dmtumbli

    @dmtumbli

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thx but I was referring to more details after Saul Steinberg's attempted takeover

  • @henrywood9781
    @henrywood97814 жыл бұрын

    This video is awesome

  • @k001daddy
    @k001daddy4 жыл бұрын

    Super excited for the next installment! HAGBBT!

  • @ghoulannabanana
    @ghoulannabanana4 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else feel like we're repeating a whole lot of these mistakes??? Like, I can't stand that Iger is the most "successful" Disney CEO because he just seems to be stripping the company of any innovation, genuinity, consideration, and creativity minus everything that made them financially unstable in the past. Makes me wish for the Eisner days because, though far from perfect, he was a *Disney* CEO, and not some corporate-monopoly-empire. Buying your way into safety, taking the "easy" way out through marketing ploys and scams is *not* Disney.

  • @captainakron27
    @captainakron274 жыл бұрын

    that 80's beat!

  • @jonathanvanboskerck2693
    @jonathanvanboskerck26934 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @likira111
    @likira1114 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what Walt would have done but it sure isn't live action lion king.

  • @JetblackThemeTime
    @JetblackThemeTime4 жыл бұрын

    Safe Disney style. Shows clips from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

  • @Mikedebbiewedway
    @Mikedebbiewedway Жыл бұрын

    Has anyone ever thought what Disney world would be like if Walt didn't buy 27000 acres, nobody but Walt would think that big,

  • @graffitti93
    @graffitti934 жыл бұрын

    Awh dude, what the bleep?! Holy crap! This was captivating! It ended and I was legit like, “WHAT?!? Wait! What happens next?!?” Wow. Bravo 👏

  • @luizbertoncini
    @luizbertoncini4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing ending

  • @William_mailliW
    @William_mailliW4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting approach to the subject, Rob. Dig it; more in-depth and intense. This your new approach to your content 'cause it looks good?

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I can't say if this will be the norm going forward, but I wanted to experiment with it and felt like there was just too much to the '84 takeover attempt to cover in one of my normal videos. So it'll be the approach for the next month or so, and then we'll see from there!

  • @kellyweingart3692

    @kellyweingart3692

    4 жыл бұрын

    like Mama Odie would say: “You gotta dig a little deeper”

  • @christianferrara3792
    @christianferrara37924 жыл бұрын

    hi everyone, what's the song in background around min,9? thx excellent video and love this page

  • @primusvsunicron1
    @primusvsunicron14 жыл бұрын

    Rob how come Roy Jr didn’t become CEO after his dad?

  • @beethovensfidelio

    @beethovensfidelio

    4 жыл бұрын

    PrimusVsUnicron I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised if THAT was the reason Roy Jr. disliked Ron Miller so much, since Miller was CEO of the company until Roy ironically fired Ron.

  • @talia.nowland9507
    @talia.nowland95074 жыл бұрын

    Your channel should premier on Disney+

  • @two-ton2149
    @two-ton21494 жыл бұрын

    Do you take suggestions? I suggest Tam O’Shanter in Glendale & the infamous Table #31.

  • @KennyRyman
    @KennyRyman4 жыл бұрын

    Wonder What Walt Disney will say about Disney in 2020 if he Alive today....

  • @robertsimon2885

    @robertsimon2885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kenny Ryman He might punish the scumbags for buying too many companies, and reward them for improving Disney's animation, minus the remakes.

  • @icecreamhero2375

    @icecreamhero2375

    4 жыл бұрын

    He would be mad but he would probably love pixar.

  • @UmmYeahOk
    @UmmYeahOk4 жыл бұрын

    Those kids have it all wrong. You don’t go to the drive in to watch movies! ...you go for a pleasant meal, before heading out into Black Spire Outpost.

  • @PlayBoiiJay._
    @PlayBoiiJay._4 жыл бұрын

    I love Disneyland I go there almost all the time

  • @timholder6461
    @timholder64614 жыл бұрын

    Pt 2 .

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo3 жыл бұрын

    What would Walt do?

  • @kurtperleberf6983
    @kurtperleberf69834 жыл бұрын

    Why was Disney making 3 films a year in the early 1980s why 5 of the Big 6 film companies were making over 10 films a year?

  • @rc100692

    @rc100692

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kurt Perleberf because they made 3 movies a year when Walt was still alive. They were so worried about what what Walt would do, they kept doing almost everything the same way the did before, even if it was unprofitable.

  • @kurtperleberf6983

    @kurtperleberf6983

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rc100692 Were any of the early 1980s Disney films good?

  • @harpua7859
    @harpua78594 жыл бұрын

    What's the clip with the two kids talking about Surfer movies from?

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    "That Darn Cat!"

  • @katherinealvarez9216

    @katherinealvarez9216

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidwaytoMainStreet oh yeah. Was that the sister?

  • @bronxbearbud272
    @bronxbearbud2724 жыл бұрын

    In a 1956 interview with the Saturday Evening Post, Walt responded, when asked about the sale of alcohol at Disneyland, "No liquor, no beer, nothing. Because that brings in a rowdy element. That brings people that we don't want, and I don't feel that they need it." Disneyland was largely inspired by Walt's desire to provide children with a wholesome, alcohol-free environment to enjoy with their parents. Isn't it fair to say that "What would Walt want?" stopped being a legitimate consideration the minute that first drink was poured at a Disney park?

  • @Arjay404

    @Arjay404

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, because the intention was never to make a alcohol free environment. The aim was to make a upscale, high quality, non seedy version of a carnival, that's it. Walt didn't like the type of seedy, dirty, disgusting atmosphere that typical carnivals had. So they added alcohol, did it make the place seedy and disgusting? No it didn't, so no harm done.

  • @bronxbearbud272

    @bronxbearbud272

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Arjay404 Well, the words belong to Walt Disney, not me and reflect his position, whether he was right or not.

  • @Arjay404

    @Arjay404

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bronxbearbud272 I know those are his words. However Walt was also very open to change, I think with the passage of time and if the idea was well thought out and explained to him well, he would have been open to it. As long as he knew that doing this wouldn't make his parks into the seedy places he was trying to avoid, I believe he would have been open to it.

  • @Slackmana
    @Slackmana4 жыл бұрын

    What would Walt do? Walt would not terminate 90% of the companies animation careers... Walt would not make a cheap cartoon. Walt would not franchise the park around a highly criticized film. Disney has completely abandoned the idea of "What would Walt do?"

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's a good thing. It was trying to do what they thought Walt would do that got Disney into trouble to begin with. Funnily enough, one thing Walt WOULDN'T do is try to make decisions based on the hypothetical wishes of someone who had been dead for decades.

  • @Slackmana

    @Slackmana

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidwaytoMainStreet your saying it's a good thing that Disney spends less on animation, and animation careers?...

  • @Slackmana

    @Slackmana

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidwaytoMainStreet Personally I appreciate a Disney that's responsible towards the economy when considering valuable career opportunities. And not neglectful for the sake of corporate investors.

  • @MidwaytoMainStreet

    @MidwaytoMainStreet

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Slackmana Between Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar, Disney has put out 21 animated films in the last decade. It represents an combined estimated $3.5 billion dollars in animation production. That doesn't include the 6 Disneytoon features produced for direct-to-consumer or the countless hours of animated television for the Disney Channel and Disney XD. For comparison, in Walt's era, they were producing anywhere from 5-8 films a decade. So I'm not sure where this idea of them spending less on animation comes from. Also if we're going down that path of history anyway: Walt was still around when Disney skipped the inking process on 101 Dalmatians, which was done to cut costs on the animation. So yeah, he did make a cheap cartoon. He was also willing to add attractions to Disneyland that tied into films that were very new, and in one case wasn't even out yet.

  • @Slackmana

    @Slackmana

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MidwaytoMainStreet My objection is in reference to animation career opportunities... Yes Disney IS making more money. But they're also spending significantly less on animation. I'm not making this up!!! Just research the subject. Disney used to employ hundreds of animators from around the world. Now their animation studios employ a few dozen...

  • @jbragg35
    @jbragg354 жыл бұрын

    I know for sure Walt wouldn't keep RAISING his ticket price Everytime a new land or attraction opens,you gotta be rich to spend a day Disneyland now days and it really sucks for us for hard Disney fans that can't afford it.I blame YOU Robert Iger!!!! Money hungry bastard.

  • @mwbenedict6297
    @mwbenedict62974 жыл бұрын

    MORE..... 😬

  • @robertsimon2885
    @robertsimon28854 жыл бұрын

    What would Walt do about what the corporate scumbags are doing to the company today?

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