WHAT WENT WRONG WITH SAMOA JOE IN TNA?

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Samoa Joe has just been released by WWE and I thought it would be a perfect time to take a look back at his TNA run. It was a real mixed bag, it started out great with his ROH days. Then he had incredible feud with Kurt Angle. He won the TNA world heavyweight championship and then it all went down hill. From Ninjas to henna tattoos Joe had some bad gimmicks, oh and he lost a lot!
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  • @Markyd123
    @Markyd1233 жыл бұрын

    Who is your TNA Mount Rushmore?

  • @IntellectualPen6uin

    @IntellectualPen6uin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kurt Angle Christian Aj styles Brooke Tessmacher

  • @extremeking425

    @extremeking425

    3 жыл бұрын

    AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Sting, and Kurt Angle.

  • @extremeking425

    @extremeking425

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IntellectualPen6uin brooke? are you on crack?

  • @eastsidereviews727

    @eastsidereviews727

    3 жыл бұрын

    AJ Styles, Abyss, Kurt Angle, and Gail Kim.

  • @Joecbg100

    @Joecbg100

    3 жыл бұрын

    AJ Kurt Sting Storm

  • @Jermaine2099
    @Jermaine20993 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Rushmore would be: Jeff Jarrett, a guitar shot, ref bump, and an interference spot.

  • @markslaughter9497

    @markslaughter9497

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the Cardboard Tables

  • @robcressey7228

    @robcressey7228

    3 жыл бұрын

    Memphis style!

  • @emiliomarbanjr

    @emiliomarbanjr

    3 жыл бұрын

    lmao nice one.

  • @jack_ssr

    @jack_ssr

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @bretcyr6176

    @bretcyr6176

    3 жыл бұрын

    damn. spot on.

  • @itchweeed47
    @itchweeed473 жыл бұрын

    He never recovered from that mathmatical ass kicking by Professor Scott Steiner

  • @EastLee

    @EastLee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Scott never whooped joe stfu

  • @javo10ful

    @javo10ful

    3 жыл бұрын

    The math was too advanced for joe to comprehend and recover from. Remember that Scott Steiner has a PHD in mathematics.

  • @ahmeddemha6112

    @ahmeddemha6112

    Жыл бұрын

    He won that match😗

  • @fergalstackstreams
    @fergalstackstreams3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps TNA's biggest crime against wrestling was wasting Samoa Joe's prime years.

  • @delv213

    @delv213

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he talked about how that Sting spot at Bound For Glory 2008 blew his back out. He was always going to get slower as he aged but that spot looks so dumb.

  • @ShubhamMishrabro

    @ShubhamMishrabro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@delv213 no that is internet made rumour. Check samoe joe twitter he debunked it

  • @TheMaskedheel

    @TheMaskedheel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was signing Booker T shortly after his King Booker title run. That guy was gold. He was Angle level main eventer.

  • @geleneceline2310

    @geleneceline2310

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now joe is coming back

  • @zemox2534

    @zemox2534

    3 жыл бұрын

    Has Joe confirmed he is coming back?

  • @rocavelli20
    @rocavelli203 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Mt. Rushmore: Shark Boy The midget who almost shot Jeff Jarrett Jeff Hardy’s stoner friend

  • @rugalb98

    @rugalb98

    3 жыл бұрын

    Puppet and Shannon Moore

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot your fourth.

  • @jeffreyheffner908

    @jeffreyheffner908

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shark boy is unironically on my mt Rushmore lol shark boy is fire

  • @xbigwormx

    @xbigwormx

    3 жыл бұрын

    who is #4?

  • @julieannewaller7541

    @julieannewaller7541

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot claire lynch

  • @Bubba__Sawyer
    @Bubba__Sawyer3 жыл бұрын

    For any younger fans who never saw Joe's run in TNA, you owe it to yourself to watch his run in the company from his debut in early 2005 up to the series with Kurt Angle at the end of 2006. One great match after another.

  • @Markyd123

    @Markyd123

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @OhSoNasty

    @OhSoNasty

    2 жыл бұрын

    W

  • @Disconnect350

    @Disconnect350

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a guy who never watched TNA, while I plan on one day watching 2005-2009, no way I'm gonna watch because of Samoa Joe. I get that he's a good wrestler, but the dude looks lame as hell. Awful shape, awful attire.

  • @OhSoNasty

    @OhSoNasty

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Disconnect350 you're probably a Keith Lee fan L

  • @Disconnect350

    @Disconnect350

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OhSoNasty I don't even know who that is. I don't watch modern wrestling, it's all trash.

  • @skorpiontamer
    @skorpiontamer3 жыл бұрын

    You can't talk about this without talking about any of Steiner's promos calling Joe fat

  • @BulletClub444Life
    @BulletClub444Life3 жыл бұрын

    Joe was an absolute killer in ROH and was really good in TNA until BFG 2008. It sucks how he was used since then.

  • @tonymatrisin4328

    @tonymatrisin4328

    3 жыл бұрын

    Used, he was alwayd hurt

  • @tonymatrisin4328

    @tonymatrisin4328

    3 жыл бұрын

    Always*

  • @geleneceline2310

    @geleneceline2310

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now it looks like he coming back to impact

  • @vampirascoffin870

    @vampirascoffin870

    3 жыл бұрын

    and lets not forget he lost to a wwe guy , kurt breaking the streak really?

  • @Blitzkrieg50

    @Blitzkrieg50

    3 жыл бұрын

    Russo’s arrival was the nail in the coffin for him from a booking capacity.

  • @jumpoi
    @jumpoi3 жыл бұрын

    Only if he had a 33 and 1/3rd chance

  • @Costanza1459

    @Costanza1459

    3 жыл бұрын

    The numbers don’t lie.

  • @monsieurdubitatif8567

    @monsieurdubitatif8567

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's FAT!

  • @nick0875

    @nick0875

    3 жыл бұрын

    You see that Joe? Its a vein, something you don't have.

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt3 жыл бұрын

    I think by 2012-2015 he just stopped caring entirely. When he went to NXT he was in much better shape, putting on good to great matches regularly even up till like 2018. Edit: Everyone in my comments only seems to remember his main roster run or his 2 Nakamura matches. He put on an amazing triology with Balor and was Balor's only Takeover loss till recently. Watch any of his matches in NXT, he was motivated and part of those 2 golden years for NXT. Was he ROH Samoa Joe, no, but he wasn't 2014 Joe. Idk if it was the money or the fact he was taken seriously but the passion was really there.

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Joe was pretty good in wwe it’s just he always lost in the same way on the main roster

  • @lutherheggs451

    @lutherheggs451

    3 жыл бұрын

    What drugs are you on? He was constantly getting injured in WWE, he spent more time sitting on the shelf than actually wrestling because every time he did he got hurt and would be out for months....No company with a brain is going to actually book someone who is constantly hurt for anything....He could have been just fine on commentary except he obviously wanted to wrestle, now he can go and do that. Somewhere else, until he gets hurt in his first couple matches.

  • @win-wd3hj

    @win-wd3hj

    3 жыл бұрын

    All I remember about Joe in NXT it's that those Nakamura matches were disappointing. Idk about his main roster since i've stopped watching WWE around that time.

  • @elcactusdelamuerte506

    @elcactusdelamuerte506

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbh I think it's the timing of the injuries more than the frequency. I can only recall a few injuries not really more than anyone else, but they came at the worst time e.g. Feud with brock, his most recent where he came back for like a week only to get injured again e.t.c.

  • @thehorrorhound6575

    @thehorrorhound6575

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lutherheggs451 the Taz curse. All the talent and moment in the world but injury prone

  • @apathy125
    @apathy1253 жыл бұрын

    Mt. Flushmore: Slapnuts Garret Bischoff Rob Terry Wes Briscoe

  • @davidprevost6670

    @davidprevost6670

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's a terrible ⛰

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidprevost6670 Hence Flushmore.

  • @derletzteberber871

    @derletzteberber871

    3 жыл бұрын

    You spelt Pisscoe wrong...

  • @MGSBlackCat17

    @MGSBlackCat17

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Robby E

  • @xbigwormx

    @xbigwormx

    3 жыл бұрын

    1)Samosa Joe 2)The 8 year old Obese Indian Boy 3)Rob Terry 4)Garrett Bischoff

  • @SpikeFartly
    @SpikeFartly3 жыл бұрын

    AJ, Christian, Angle, Daniels . These guys rarely had a bad match and went as hard as they could every time they went out there.

  • @fybslygod7691

    @fybslygod7691

    3 жыл бұрын

    They made Daniels job for jarret...He beat the whole XXX faction by himself.It was stupid af.Made Daniels look weak and lame lol.

  • @trevorrovert3103

    @trevorrovert3103

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fybslygod7691 Everyone jobs for slapnuts!

  • @chriscampbell4660

    @chriscampbell4660

    2 жыл бұрын

    I gotta add kazarian to that list

  • @chriscampbell4660

    @chriscampbell4660

    2 жыл бұрын

    But can't cut anyone. Tuff list

  • @WoodStoveification
    @WoodStoveification3 жыл бұрын

    Note that while Nash claims he slapped Joe and Joe apologised later AJ was asked about the incident and said that nobody would have done that to Joe in TNA and he'd never heard of that happening.

  • @WarGhoulKharas

    @WarGhoulKharas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nash said he slapped a lot of people. I've never heard anyone confirm it.

  • @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't Joe deny it?

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@micahjohnsonboxing6409 Joe recently said that he doesn’t shoot down rumors because he likes how the legend grows.

  • @cerburrows9380

    @cerburrows9380

    3 жыл бұрын

    TNA management sent Joe out there to do a shoot promo so why was Nash angry with Joe and why did Joe apologise when he was just following orders

  • @UkonJohnNord

    @UkonJohnNord

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarGhoulKharas X-Pac was there

  • @Smeeeeeghead
    @Smeeeeeghead3 жыл бұрын

    Rumours have it that Samoa Joe turned down the Umaga gimmick back in 2005/2006. Maybe he should have taken it, in hindsight.

  • @xbigwormx

    @xbigwormx

    3 жыл бұрын

    "YOU'RE NOT A REAL SAMOAN YOU'RE A HALF BREED"-Scott Steiner.

  • @Njmike27

    @Njmike27

    2 жыл бұрын

    Joe was famous in RoH and RoH back then was popular so if they didn't hired him they created a gimmick like that . At the same time when Umaga was going away from WWE he probably was about to go in TNA

  • @lautheimpaler4686

    @lautheimpaler4686

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard somewhere that WWE created the Umaga gimmick to have their own Samoa Joe

  • @wingedhussar1453

    @wingedhussar1453

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lautheimpaler4686they failed miserably because Umaga was just a stupid monster heel while same Joe was more of an asskicker

  • @Bloodgulchblue
    @Bloodgulchblue2 жыл бұрын

    I always found Nash getting mad a Joe for that promo was extremely petty, Nash always likes to make fun of marks but marks out for himself and his buddys every chance he gets, the funniest thing I could see Nash, Hall, or any Kliq guy for that matter cutting the same promo in the 90's. I like Nash but its clear I dont as much as Nash does, and I doubt anyone could like Nash as much as Nash. Also lets be honest here if Joe decided he wanted to he would've wrecked Nash's old ass back stage

  • @audiosurfarchive

    @audiosurfarchive

    Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing that Nash is as tall as he is; what with having his head stuck up his ass so far, and all.

  • @ahmeddemha6112

    @ahmeddemha6112

    Жыл бұрын

    Not simply petty hypocritical. Parodying Arn Anderson’s retirement and mentioning his alcoholism?

  • @jimmyplenderleith9471
    @jimmyplenderleith94713 жыл бұрын

    TNA not making Joe and AJ THE FOCUS of the promotion starting with building them to the two biggest stars in 2006 was a HUGE mistake. You have two young guys, who are incredible in the ring and put on amazing matches, and you instead keep bringing in WWE Re-treads and pushing them to the moon. Why? To try and get instant ratings? All TNA had to do was look at WWF in 1996/1997. They knew they werent super popular and needed to grow, so they built new stars and pushed them up the card (Rock / Austin / HHH / etc) and then took back over as the biggest promotion in the world. Im not saying TNA would have reached those heights, but if they would have taken time to push THEIR guys, while using some WWE re-treads along with them it could have been really good. But Joe and AJ should have been the focus of that promotion from 2006 going forward. They could have grown from there as their own product instead of a BS crappy WWE cast-offs show. If they would have been patient and let ratings and stars grow, who knows what we'd think of TNA today......but in the end, they would make the same stupid mistakes TIME and TIME again....it was a joke.

  • @petesmart1983

    @petesmart1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    They couldn't trust aj with his attitude on the mic which was often homophobic etc.

  • @adamlucas2203

    @adamlucas2203

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trying to compete with WWE at all was so stupid. Why compete with them? You don't have to. Carve out your own niche. Push those young guys and other indie darlings like Christopher Daniels as a mid card push. Let old guys come.on for nostalgia sometimes, but they should have never been main eventers. Fuck, Foley looked so broke during that run of his. Nash has always been broken. Hogan, flair, etc

  • @The_Bigot

    @The_Bigot

    2 жыл бұрын

    You give Samoa joe and aj styles too much credit lol

  • @swavyypressure9417

    @swavyypressure9417

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@The_Bigot Not at all.

  • @jimmyplenderleith9471

    @jimmyplenderleith9471

    2 жыл бұрын

    @TJ P Was she running it already in late 05 into 06 when Joe got hot and he / AJ were tearing up XDivision? I honestly dont remember.

  • @freshkiddmanny
    @freshkiddmanny3 жыл бұрын

    Till this day I'm still wondering who kidnapped Joe in the parking lot 🤔back In the day

  • @8512124

    @8512124

    3 жыл бұрын

    WWE , and now they finally released him

  • @introvertedextrovertedtraver

    @introvertedextrovertedtraver

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rakishi

  • @SegaDream131

    @SegaDream131

    3 жыл бұрын

    Id wad mee, Di did dit fo dey wock...

  • @klyodog9980
    @klyodog99803 жыл бұрын

    Samoa Joe losing and looking mad after is just like in wwe on the main roster

  • @NxFxKW

    @NxFxKW

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you want him to look Happy after he loses? How the heck would you maintain a credible character that way?

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NxFxKW the finish was the same every match. Joe goes for the coquina clutch then he gets rolled up 123. How the heck would you maintain a credible character that way?

  • @NxFxKW

    @NxFxKW

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@klyodog9980 Ric Flair had the same match for 30 years and it worked out for him

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NxFxKW that was a different time

  • @walsh9080

    @walsh9080

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NxFxKW A rare person who doesn't pretend Flair was a GOAT in the ring, when really he's like Hulk Hogan but more proficient, seen one match you've seen them all.

  • @Smeeeeeghead
    @Smeeeeeghead3 жыл бұрын

    I never got Samoa Joe getting heat for that shoot promo on Scott Hall. I can understand why Nash would have been upset, but I thought that TNA *MANAGEMENT* sent him out there to cut a scathing promo on Hall, why were they mad at Joe for cutting deep when that is what they asked him to do? Did he go too far?

  • @NWOWCW4Life1

    @NWOWCW4Life1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably cause he acknowledged that he got a microphone

  • @Smeeeeeghead

    @Smeeeeeghead

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NWOWCW4Life1 what do you mean?

  • @bigbear514

    @bigbear514

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Smeeeeeghead Sorry this is super late, but what they probably mean is that he acknowledged getting a live mic, both throwing them under the bus and breaking kayfabe in the middle of the main event for a PPV. Also he went apparently went on way longer than they wanted him to from what I've heard. That's why he has the line about not caring about being fired. Since that was Dixie Carter he pissed off there.

  • @ahmeddemha6112

    @ahmeddemha6112

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing that made it stupid was Scott Hall’s unreliability was not a secret by 2006. But let’s bring him back for another run then be shocked when he no shows’s

  • @starchygoblin9859
    @starchygoblin98593 жыл бұрын

    After a few years, I think it became obvious that it wasn't Joe or TNA, both sides just gave up on the other after a while. Vince Russo recently stated in an interview that there would be times where Joe would show up to tapings having slimed down and gotten in shape. Then others where he would be 35 pounds heavier and walking like a fucking turtle. While Joe being in bad shape is Joe's fault, Joe also clearly had issues with the way TNA did business. With the way Joe tore in Scott Hall for getting paid a shit ton of money when he was no showing dates or his scathing promos of WCW guys taking TNA spots, he clearly didn't like what TNA was doing. So I think its just a case of both sides slowly becoming more and more tired of the other.

  • @xbigwormx

    @xbigwormx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then jobbing Joe out to the WWE rejects. When Hogan came in Joe was just an afterthought.

  • @planescaped

    @planescaped

    3 жыл бұрын

    TNA killing themselves to put over ex-WWE guys is really the story of the company as a whole. I think it's why people get so defensive and over-sensitive whenever someone goes from WWE to AEW. Switching companies wasn't the problem, the problem was atrocious ownership and management who seemed to legit see themselves as lower tier, and anyone from WWE as better. If I had to sum TNA up it would be self-deprecating.

  • @Stoneman180190

    @Stoneman180190

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another former ex WWE/WCW/ECW who didn’t give a shit were Booker T and RVD.

  • @davidepannone6021

    @davidepannone6021

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@planescaped fucking amen. Truly what made TNA drown. From an alternative it became a WWE retirement home.

  • @dirkley5577
    @dirkley55773 жыл бұрын

    5:44 I totally forgot that Lex Luger was in TNA...

  • @dasdeke
    @dasdeke3 жыл бұрын

    How TNA handled Joe, and AJ in his last run in the company, just shows you they didn't have a clue.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
    @user-fe8gx3ie5v3 жыл бұрын

    Russo said that the reason Joe wasn't booked more strongly or had more main event runs is because he'd often be out of shape by the time they started taping more episodes. They used to tape several episodes in a row back then.

  • @zemox2534

    @zemox2534

    3 жыл бұрын

    The man could talk and fucking wrestle. Who cars about his looks?! Joe was screwed because management were idiots!

  • @shiningwizard690

    @shiningwizard690

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zemox2534 Looks are literally the biggest part of wrestling, in America at least

  • @zemox2534

    @zemox2534

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shiningwizard690 Well I do not give a shit what a wrestler looks like. This is why I love Japanese wrestling. They care more about skill than appearance.

  • @shiningwizard690

    @shiningwizard690

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zemox2534 Absolutely, but even then, looks do matter, just not as much. Hayabusa is one of my favorites, but he wouldn't have been nearly as successful without his look.

  • @santijk3756

    @santijk3756

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zemox2534 thats why Wrestling is dead, no one cares about out of shape no charisma midgets

  • @TheJaviferrol
    @TheJaviferrol3 жыл бұрын

    You know he hit rock bottom and that they didn´t know how to use him when we got to the feud with The Pope

  • @LeonCook34

    @LeonCook34

    3 жыл бұрын

    The pope was great totally miss used in TNA

  • @xbigwormx

    @xbigwormx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pope wasn't bad he was just booked horribly, Wes Brisco, Rob Terry, David Flair and Garrett Bischoff are FAR worst than The Pope.

  • @liublanka3925
    @liublanka39253 жыл бұрын

    Last thing I remember about Samoa joe was him saying wendy over the wwe arena on mic

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ohh Wendy

  • @daf4ever
    @daf4ever3 жыл бұрын

    7:17 That Promo was amazing and Joe was over... but some ppl didn't like that and felt insecure... too bad Joe should have gotten a big push instead right after that amazing promo

  • @xplayfan21

    @xplayfan21

    3 жыл бұрын

    This I like Kevin Nash but wow Dude Jerk

  • @janeinjaneinderbozz

    @janeinjaneinderbozz

    3 жыл бұрын

    That one that looks like elvis is a junkie that’s his gimmick.... and they get mad at joe for showing up every time they needed him .... If you run a wrestling promotion and people who can’t work because of their drug problems still have more power than the people who can work....

  • @briantaylorcloe7725

    @briantaylorcloe7725

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching that live! I was so confused how they treated and booked Joe after that ... He was red hot!!!

  • @kommissar.murphy
    @kommissar.murphy3 жыл бұрын

    Steiner shouting "he's fat" in that big empty, echoey hall is the first time ever that reverb made me laugh.

  • @kingrama2727
    @kingrama27273 жыл бұрын

    Some guy who looked like Elvis, Mr. Perfect, the Midgett who pulled a gun on Jeff Jarrett and Sandman

  • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
    @bigjohnsbreakfastlog58193 жыл бұрын

    Wow, a lot of restraint not to use "HE'S FAT!" Anyway, I think Joe kept getting fatter was a lack of motivation due to the company not caring about him, so that apathy meant he shouldn't care about himself. Lack of motivation leads to lack of self-care, leading to weight gain, loss of dedication to exercise and cardio, and him looking all pasty and crud. Then he goes to NXT, and all of a sudden, you see a glimpse of what people were talking about when he got his act together. His main roster run in WWE is another story, but let's pretend NXT was a revival.

  • @rdu239

    @rdu239

    3 жыл бұрын

    You wont even take Samoa Joe seriously no matter how badass he talks when he was active in WWE, because he is fat and he keeps on losing to the wrestlers he was insulting with his fiery promos

  • @savejohn3782
    @savejohn37823 жыл бұрын

    Where is the footage of Joe cutting a promo on Jeff Jarrett wearing a sandal? It was hilarious.

  • @james_the_animator

    @james_the_animator

    3 жыл бұрын

    One sandal? A singular sandal?

  • @savejohn3782

    @savejohn3782

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@james_the_animator Flip flops 😂 In that episode where Jeff attack handcuffed Kurt. Joe cuts a promo on Jeff and gets thrown off in next episode. I can’t find that video.

  • @MaddMan621

    @MaddMan621

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s a classic

  • @alexshill2493

    @alexshill2493

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂🤣😂😂😋😂😊 id forgotten u til now thank you

  • @Billy_Carter
    @Billy_Carter3 жыл бұрын

    "..Samoa Joe got released from the WWE.. So now I kinda HAVE to make this video, don't I?" Yes, yes you do. Great video

  • @xbigwormx
    @xbigwormx3 жыл бұрын

    TNA Mount Rushmore: 1)The 8 Year Old Obese Indian Boy. 2)Wes Briscoe. 3)Samosa Joe. 4)Garett Bischoff.

  • @julieannewaller7541
    @julieannewaller75413 жыл бұрын

    I blame 95 percent of what happened to Joe on management & creative. Joe could only go by what was given.

  • @zachariahmorris833

    @zachariahmorris833

    2 жыл бұрын

    How do you blame being fat and out of shape on managing? How do you blame not being able to put together a decent match on management? It's 95% Fat Joe's fault.

  • @rdu239

    @rdu239

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zachariahmorris833 I dont understand WWE allowing Kevin Owens to perform so out of shape fat, its like all this time WWE is simply tolerating Kevin Owen's bullshit reasons why he dont do diet, and his ring attire looks so silly

  • @kylehuettl4658

    @kylehuettl4658

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rdu239 and they call him a "prize fighter" real shame because he is the best on a mic in a long time!

  • @ahmeddemha6112

    @ahmeddemha6112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zachariahmorris833 Joe could still work and put on better matches than guy’s like Mick Foley, Kevin Nash, Ken Anderson, Matt Morgan, & Ja sober Jeff Hardy all of whom got pushes for no reason.

  • @georgealvarez1195

    @georgealvarez1195

    8 ай бұрын

    Name 1 hall of fame wrestler who wasn't given a shit gimmick and direction. They all overcame "bad" creative

  • @connordevereaux759
    @connordevereaux7593 жыл бұрын

    TNA Rushmore: Angle, Sting, Jeff Hardy, Aj Styles, Delighted for you Markyd123 welcome back to KZread. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @sadwhitesoxfan17
    @sadwhitesoxfan173 жыл бұрын

    I have never seen something more random than teaming Joe and Magnus.

  • @robcressey7228
    @robcressey72283 жыл бұрын

    Damn, broken down match by match like this, Joe's run is equivalent to Bray Wyatt.

  • @shavell9447

    @shavell9447

    3 жыл бұрын

    How so ?

  • @robcressey7228

    @robcressey7228

    3 жыл бұрын

    Becomes World Champion early but short reign, always losing "big match " to bigger names.

  • @shavell9447

    @shavell9447

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robcressey7228 I don't think Braun is talented

  • @ShubhamMishrabro

    @ShubhamMishrabro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shavell9447 he said bray not braun

  • @klyodog9980

    @klyodog9980

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true they are always losing the big matches

  • @NoobGamerTopG
    @NoobGamerTopG3 жыл бұрын

    The most 1 dimensional character ever. He’s so 1D that his red/black shorts became pink/Black short as he refused to get new gear

  • @PhilosophicalTwerks
    @PhilosophicalTwerks3 жыл бұрын

    AJ, Jarrett, Sting and Angle. There were some really good years

  • @emiliomarbanjr

    @emiliomarbanjr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jarret lol.

  • @landismithCOJ
    @landismithCOJ3 жыл бұрын

    That choke slam on Sanjay Dutt was vicious.

  • @YaRaginAye
    @YaRaginAye3 жыл бұрын

    1. A wild slapnuts 2. Guitar shot 3. Victory road Meth Hardly 4. Crying Abyss

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclure3 жыл бұрын

    If you want a list of people I heard about that made me want to watch TNA it would be Kurt angle, Samoa Joe, AJ styles, and Christian.

  • @znalniaskas
    @znalniaskas3 жыл бұрын

    To quote the great Scott Steiner :"He's fat"

  • @JalYoungGun1
    @JalYoungGun13 жыл бұрын

    Samosa Joe and Samoa Joe could have been the Samosa Brothers in Ring ka King honestly

  • @vincesmith2499
    @vincesmith24992 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't have hurt for Joe to lift weights and get in shape. Imagine if he had had a physique like Steiner.

  • @BiggieTrismegistus

    @BiggieTrismegistus

    2 жыл бұрын

    To have a physique like Steiner he'd have to use a shit-ton of anabolic steroids in addition to lifting weights.

  • @pan_krateron894
    @pan_krateron8943 жыл бұрын

    Joe is a submission machine, not a submission genius who know every move on the book. A machine knows to do one thing perfectly and effectivly that's why he is a machine!

  • @gaultgoldman7084
    @gaultgoldman70843 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Mount Rushmore is Aj, Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, Kurt Angle

  • @asundelgun3487

    @asundelgun3487

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Hardy is clearly the TNA GOAT

  • @gaultgoldman7084

    @gaultgoldman7084

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aries over Joe bc Aries was much better. He was a better heel, better character, better wrestler throughout his TNA career, Roode is in my Rushmore Bc when I was watching TNA he was the main guy I liked so that’s just my personal guy. I found him cool with beer money and he was a pretty good champ in my opinion.

  • @mikeking4349
    @mikeking43493 жыл бұрын

    I never liked the fact that Kurt need his undefeated streak the way he did and it made no sense. Kurt beat him fair and square and then between that ppv and the next one Kurt turns heel and demands a rematch? Shouldn't Joe have one that first match and then have Kurt break the streak?

  • @allengriggs8894

    @allengriggs8894

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me neither

  • @vincesmith2499
    @vincesmith2499 Жыл бұрын

    They never should have had that series of PPV matches between Joe and Angle at that time. Joe was hot, and Angle had just come in. Neither one of them could afford a loss at the time. Both of them should have been built for an entire year leading to a match @ BFG 2007.

  • @pikkon899
    @pikkon8992 жыл бұрын

    Based on what I've seen on this channel, the undisputed TNA Mount Rushmore is: 1.) Jeff Jarrett 2.) The Generic Blonde Interviewer 3.) The Idiot Abyss 4.) Rob Terry * Honorable mention: Sonny Siaki & Orlando Jordan.

  • @Sawyeee

    @Sawyeee

    2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot jeff hardy's stoner friend

  • @ricardonb6375

    @ricardonb6375

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Sawyeee Shannon Moore belongs in a WWE Sidekick Rushmore

  • @rosiegratz8377
    @rosiegratz83773 жыл бұрын

    You could tell Nash wanted to slap him in front of everyone.

  • @bardunshield
    @bardunshield3 жыл бұрын

    As much as I love Joe, I have to give you credit for how fairly you handled this video. Great content.

  • @Markyd123

    @Markyd123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother

  • @salamisumo2
    @salamisumo23 жыл бұрын

    Joe was never the same after that bump he took off the stairs at Bound for Glory 08.

  • @y4j1981

    @y4j1981

    3 жыл бұрын

    He recently tweeted that all that injury info and him changing style wasn’t true

  • @MozzieGG

    @MozzieGG

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was an amazing thread on Reddit about that and Joe confirmed personally that the post was correct. His injury is some sort of urban legend or myth

  • @ShubhamMishrabro

    @ShubhamMishrabro

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is false. It's a internet made rumour

  • @mgunter
    @mgunter3 жыл бұрын

    Cornette leaving was more of a factor than you think. Corny wanted to do the same with Henandez.

  • @LordDeBahs

    @LordDeBahs

    3 жыл бұрын

    hernandes was super over at some point (he was not bad worker .just kinda needed good oponent make him look good) ) but booking kills his run

  • @wingedhussar1453

    @wingedhussar1453

    Жыл бұрын

    Hernandez should have ben booked as a monster in 2010 and won the belt just as he was getting good pop and heat bit tna being tna was very stupid back then

  • @elvisrevenge90
    @elvisrevenge903 жыл бұрын

    How is this ALREADY out? I feel like I just saw the poll a few days ago! Great work as always. Now smack yourself and take a vacation!

  • @simonechristie254

    @simonechristie254

    3 жыл бұрын

    He definitely should smack himself one and have a vacation

  • @SogenOkami
    @SogenOkami3 жыл бұрын

    I just voted in your poll like two hours ago and the video is already here. You work fast. ;D

  • @NathanOrlick
    @NathanOrlick2 жыл бұрын

    When you think about it TNA really had such an incredible roster pre-2010's. If I was forced to pick four, the Mt Rushmore would be Angle, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Abyss. But it really feels wrong to leave out Christopher Daniels, Amazing Red, Awesome Kong, Bobby Roode etc.

  • @LnnyOsoTo
    @LnnyOsoTo2 жыл бұрын

    I think the TNA mount Rushmore is Jeff Jarrett (for founding the company and being the first top guy) AJ Styles (for pretty much being THE TNA guy for most of his run) Sting (for being TNA's dependable Legend, in terms of work rate he was their Undertaker) And Matt Hardy (for making Impact relevant again in it's darkest times) I think Sting can be swapped for Christian Cage, Bully Ray, Scott Steiner, and a few others who built themselves somewhere else but showed they weren't good hands but great main event talent. Oh this is excluding the Knockouts Division if you include Knockouts then the answer feels obvious to me: Jarret, Styles, Gail Kim &, Awesome Kong.

  • @bowhite783
    @bowhite7833 жыл бұрын

    Id be scared of sloppy joe if i was dressed as a cheeseburger lol-ss

  • @bowhite783

    @bowhite783

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also mt rushmore would be scott steiner freakzilla the big bad booty daddy and big poppa pump lol that dude is just fn hilarious

  • @juanresto6756
    @juanresto67563 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, another video from the Shuv IT Man. Let us rejoice!

  • @RaghavanN
    @RaghavanN3 жыл бұрын

    Another great video from MarkyD.Loved the BGM 😂😂

  • @ravensflockmate
    @ravensflockmate3 жыл бұрын

    Tna rushmore: slapnuts, vince russo, joker sting, the hawk

  • @Bubba__Sawyer
    @Bubba__Sawyer3 жыл бұрын

    TNA Mount Rushmore: Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Abyss. All 4 were crucial to the early development and prime years of the company. You think of TNA and these are the first guys that come to mind. Honorable mention for guys like Sabin, Shelly, Low-ki, Amazing Red, Shark Boy, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, James Storm and of course, Kurt Angle. 2004-2008 were the prime years of the company. Even with all the flaws they had, they were a truly great alternative to WWE at that time. In fact, by 2006 I'd thrown in the towel with WWE and was a full-time TNA guy for about a year or 2. TNA had an enormous amount of potential. You can't just blame Russo for what went wrong. There had to be some key players behind the scenes for many years that always held back the company and stifled progress, and we just don't know their names. It's still astounding how many times they blew their chance at breaking out and becoming a major player.

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe8883 жыл бұрын

    My rushmore is Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Gail Kim It was storm but i changed my mind

  • @richardjfromthebay9156

    @richardjfromthebay9156

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would put kurt Angle, Aj Styles. Samoa Joe and Sting. Those 4 names carried TNA .

  • @davidprevost6670

    @davidprevost6670

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the exact same. Gail was women's wrestling at the time.

  • @vegetalover9297

    @vegetalover9297

    3 жыл бұрын

    How would you have Joe on after this Video

  • @willwalker9382
    @willwalker93823 жыл бұрын

    The fallen angel Christopher Daniels Kazarian , Aj and James Storm.

  • @heelturnsface
    @heelturnsface3 жыл бұрын

    My Rushmore of TNA: Kurt Angle, because Perc Angle hit different. Jeff Hardy, because of Victory Road 2011. AJ Styles, because he’s a flat earther. Finally, Jeff Jarrett, because his daddy bought him his spot.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    AJ isn't a flat Earther.

  • @heelturnsface

    @heelturnsface

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-fe8gx3ie5v Randy Orton and Daniel Bryan have confirmed it. He renounced it after he got roasted.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@heelturnsface Bryan accused him of it for sharing posts on it. Doesn't confirm anything.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@heelturnsface Also, even if he was, it doesn't matter.

  • @heelturnsface

    @heelturnsface

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-fe8gx3ie5v bro calm your titties, it’s a joke 😂 but being a flat earther is dumb af

  • @shakblak7900
    @shakblak79003 жыл бұрын

    Markyd coming up now He almost got 50k I remember when he had 5k

  • @thehjt7071

    @thehjt7071

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when he had 500, time flies

  • @xXBRTBXx

    @xXBRTBXx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kinda crazy how fast its growing

  • @thaiboypsp3000

    @thaiboypsp3000

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy. I’m not subbed to him anymore but I was with him when he only had like few 100s subs. Good for him.

  • @thehjt7071

    @thehjt7071

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thaiboypsp3000 why not? If you don’t mind me asking

  • @bennyhernandez6179
    @bennyhernandez61793 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel man cant stop watching,, but hey you should do more attitude era or ruthless aggression👌🏼😁

  • @johnnyb3894
    @johnnyb38943 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely glad I found you through Vee! Vee did the job for the hawk and I found a Gem 💎!! Thanks hawk for the content!! Shuv it

  • @thecomedicgenius373
    @thecomedicgenius3733 жыл бұрын

    At 0:57 hey that’s me😂😂I feel famous

  • @TophDaGreat
    @TophDaGreat3 жыл бұрын

    What happened? TNA never trusted Joe after the Scott Hall incident. Either that or someone higher up resented him for it. He basically peaked after he beat Angle for the Title. By the time Hogan came in, Joe was used as a guy to get new guys over. Joe caught on and he sorta went auto pilot too. His ROH years were better for sure. By the time WWE finally gave him a look his body was so beat up that he kept getting hurt.

  • @Anynom
    @Anynom3 жыл бұрын

    Angle being the one to snap Joe's unbeaten streak was a terrible idea. Angle was already majorly over, he didn't need that rub and could have gone to someone else.

  • @tobywilliams2939

    @tobywilliams2939

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you shouldve been christian or james storm

  • @richardjfromthebay9156

    @richardjfromthebay9156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tobywilliams2939 Anyone but an EX-WWE guy.

  • @WillsonT011

    @WillsonT011

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wrestling fans usually say a guy who's already over shouldn't Beat the Streak because a younger wrestler with the potential to be a big star should have done it,right?🤔 That's the problem, the key word is potential. If a wrestling company has a young wrestler do something incredible like beat an "undefeated" wrestler because they think he's going to be a big star, that doesn't mean the fans are actually going to see him as a big star and then it happens?😑 that wrestler that just did something incredible will start getting less time on TV, will begin losing matches on regularly and then even might find himself out off the company. That's why wrestling companies always go with an already-established STAR. Not just established but HUGE MEGA STARS. That's why TNA went with Kurt Angle, that's why WWE went with Brock Lesnar for Undertaker streak

  • @pauldewberry4061
    @pauldewberry40613 жыл бұрын

    AJ Styles, Samoan Joe, Cowboy James Storm, Jeff Jarrett. Honorable mention Awesome Kong, Gail Kim, Kurt Angle, Abyss

  • @rdu239

    @rdu239

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I remember TNA its all about Slapnuts and his reign of terror!

  • @emiliomarbanjr

    @emiliomarbanjr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rdu239 Dudes putting him on their Mount Rushmore lmao.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    @user-fe8gx3ie5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    Angle was better than Jarrett.

  • @DoneRandomLee
    @DoneRandomLee3 жыл бұрын

    Samoa joe, too much loyalty. He should have went with any other company. Go back to japan, roh, try for fcw, etc. I feel he just was in a stunk because he knew tna wouldn't do anything really with him so why bother? He lost that fire to keep trying.

  • @RollysonMason
    @RollysonMason3 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Mount Rushmore: AJ, Jarret, Angle, Storm.

  • @vincesmith2499
    @vincesmith24992 жыл бұрын

    Whose "genius" idea was it to turn Sting heel after he had already totally flopped as a heel almost a decade earlier in WCW?

  • @orldn_gtf
    @orldn_gtf2 жыл бұрын

    1:28 okay that was pretty nice of you, nice complements lmao

  • @vbadger1056
    @vbadger10563 жыл бұрын

    I will always say the in ring work was cause of the dumbest bump in wrestling history with the Dropkick on the stars at BFG (I think) against sting. Like seriously who the TF thinks about doing that and thinks it’s a good idea

  • @vincesmith2499
    @vincesmith24992 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe smarks actually thought TNA would overtake WWE. Lol.

  • @ericstevens8138
    @ericstevens81383 жыл бұрын

    Scott calling him a half breed was so fucking funny and this cooming from a mixed person

  • @mikkyrevelljr7289
    @mikkyrevelljr7289 Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe how many times he hit the muscle buster and never hurt anyone and all of a sudden Tyson Kidd. That's crazy

  • @simonechristie254
    @simonechristie2543 жыл бұрын

    Great video Mr Hawk x

  • @ZjTwams
    @ZjTwams3 жыл бұрын

    Your rant on Jo had me in stitches. Gloriously blunt hahaha

  • @othertalk3313
    @othertalk33133 жыл бұрын

    "Joe would remain on the Raw commentary team until the April 12, 2021 episode when he was replaced by Corey Graves." - Hawkipedia ... imagine getting replaced by Corey Graves... the shame of it... ouch.

  • @Stumpers24
    @Stumpers243 жыл бұрын

    Joe is one of the most underrated stars in wrestling and I hope he signs somewhere and gets some kind of push.

  • @aerostrafe1075

    @aerostrafe1075

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ze TheGame I am pretty sure the problem with that feud was the ppv name. No one wants to watch or talk about that ppv out loud.

  • @tobywilliams2939

    @tobywilliams2939

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ze TheGame fuck are u talking about the whole criwd was chanting. Joe joe joe joe when he came out stop the cap

  • @chihollywood9379

    @chihollywood9379

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ze TheGame y u care if he drew or not. Him drawing isnt putting any $$$ n yo pocket

  • @codyssmith73
    @codyssmith733 жыл бұрын

    Ey Hawk, got an odd one for you: How about The Hurricane’s short ROH stint in 2018? I think you’d enjoy the matches, and given he’s a former cruiserweight, I think your perspective would be awesome.

  • @walsh9080

    @walsh9080

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought he doesn't cover B shows, zing.

  • @thehorrorhound6575
    @thehorrorhound65753 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Mount Rushmore eh? Well it would have to be AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Kurt Angle, and Christian.

  • @mywalletisonyourmomsnighst1677
    @mywalletisonyourmomsnighst16772 жыл бұрын

    It's shameful how they ruined Joe. Then again he left and went to WWE and got the same treatment there as well.

  • @DonnyBlacc_
    @DonnyBlacc_3 жыл бұрын

    The hawk is not over cuz the 🐦 is the word ha still over ask Peter Griffin

  • @slammydunk9787
    @slammydunk97873 жыл бұрын

    Sadly while Joe could’ve been used better by TNA he wasn’t great wrestler since 2008. He was... good, but not at the same level as before. So its kinda understandable why TNA management stopped putting much effort into him.

  • @kylesantos8190
    @kylesantos81903 жыл бұрын

    Elix Skipper gave his life to TNA and nobody talks about him.

  • @jakemitchell1132
    @jakemitchell11323 жыл бұрын

    Oh God I forgot they actually had Okada at one point!!!

  • @davidprevost6670
    @davidprevost66703 жыл бұрын

    Aj because come on he was TNA. He was and is the guy who really broke out and became a star in TNA. Angle because he took TNA up a level and and made them a legitimate company. Samoa joe is on the list because behind AJ he was a main stay and even though he lost a lot of big matches he was in big matches all the time. And Gail Kim she really started the women's revolution on her own and was having incredible matches with people who didn't deserve to be in the ring with her.

  • @thehorrorhound6575

    @thehorrorhound6575

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think instead of Joe it should be Christopher Daniels. Daniels was there from day one like AJ and no matter who he was in the ring with he was pure money, and he would do any crap gimmick they gave him like curry man and suicide and have them over like rover, and the come back as Daniels again and wow the crowd every night. It’s a crime he never got a world title run

  • @cobeanderson9753
    @cobeanderson97533 жыл бұрын

    Joe was a beast in his ROH/TNA days

  • @CornBreadtm1
    @CornBreadtm13 жыл бұрын

    TNA Mount Rushmore: Low blow, Ref bump, guitar shot, the stroke. Just 4 Jeff Jarrett faces carved in stone.

  • @richevans609
    @richevans6093 жыл бұрын

    Well...The "Shove it Squad" exists now Brother! 👍

  • @andrewcooke4251
    @andrewcooke42513 жыл бұрын

    I’m really drunk and incoherent. But because I’m on the hawks team I’ll still like and comment this video before watching it.

  • @sevenman9672
    @sevenman96723 жыл бұрын

    AJ Styles Robert Roode Christian Cage Jeff Jarrett Reasoning: AJ is a shoo-in as TNA's golden boy; I wanted to include someone who TNA developed into greatness and it was to be either Roode or Austin Aries, with Roode having the stronger case for it; I also wanted to include someone already great who came to TNA and had the highlight of their career; this is where everyone would say Angle (or perhaps Sting) so instead I went with Christian, besides merely being different I would excuse my choice by saying that Angle had done so well in WWE (and Sting in WCW) that they could justifiably put him on a Mt. Rushmore of their own, whereas Christian really seemed to come into his own in TNA - and Jarrett needs to be there, however much I wish he didn't, with there being the added bonus that his presence connotes Joe and Angle. If you really can't stand him, swap him out for Abyss.

  • @josefrees
    @josefrees Жыл бұрын

    Hope I find your TNA backstage recap video someday lmfao

  • @billybats4745
    @billybats47453 жыл бұрын

    Motor city machine guns, aj, Jeff hardy, broken Matt hardy... there's really no arguing these 4. The machine guns count as 1.

  • @BLVCK0UT
    @BLVCK0UT3 жыл бұрын

    My TNA Mount Rushmore would have to be Angle, Styles, Sting, and I guess Jeff Jarrett. I never really understood the appeal of Joe and his lack of progression as a performer since his glory years really shows. I never really saw him as world champion material but to each their own.

  • @user-vv6zl1if7q

    @user-vv6zl1if7q

    2 жыл бұрын

    And jeff jarett was? I mean in terms of great world champions jarrett ia not q big ratings draw ala austin, hogan, rock or cena

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