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What Went Wrong? Secret Service, FBI Agents & Psychologist React to Assassination Attempt

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Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime…
A shooting at Donald Trump ’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania is being investigated as an attempted assassination of the former president and presumptive Republican nominee, law enforcement officials say.
Trump called Sunday for unity and resilience as shocked leaders across the political divide reacted to the shooting.
#BestGuests:
As graduate of the Federal Law Enforcement and United States Secret Service Academies, Jim traveled the world protecting President Barack Obama and family, Vice President Joe Biden and family, Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney, Vice President Candidate Paul Ryan, and numerous Presidents and Prime Ministers from around the globe.
Prior to the U.S. Secret Service, Jim graduated from Louisiana State University Law Enforcement Academy where he worked as a detective for the Livingston Parish Louisiana Sheriff’s Office.
He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Sociology/Criminology and a Master’s Degree in Homeland Security. A decorated athlete and soldier.
Sierra One Consulting’s Robert D’Amico has served his country for thirty-nine years. Over the course of a unique, hybrid career in law enforcement and military service, covering counterterrorism and cyber security, Rob has worked tirelessly to help keep America safe. Rob joined the FBI as a Special Agent and was quickly assigned to infiltrate an organized crime family as an undercover agent
Dr. Daryl Appleton holds a Doctorate of Education. in Leadership, a Master of Education, in Counseling, a Certificate of Graduate Studies in Mental Health, and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor degree.
Scott Duffey is Director of Wilmington University’s
Criminal Justice Institute
Retired FBI supervisory Special Agent of the Wilmington, Delaware Resident Agency
Worked Violent Crime matters, gangs, bank robberies and Fugitive task force cases for 20 years before being promoted supervisor of the violent crime task force in Wilmington, Delaware
Prior to FBI, served 5 1/2 years as a Pennsylvania police officer
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  • @annm9589
    @annm9589Ай бұрын

    Thank you for thoughtful experienced guests that could tackle this difficult topic appropriately

  • @millicentsheridan8980
    @millicentsheridan8980Ай бұрын

    Thx gentlemen. I’m still in shock since getting home yesterday and watching in horror . I’m 56 lived through Regan horror and 911, I’m shocked and sickened. Thx 2 all u Héroes. Praying for the fireman who lost his life and all those who are traumatized by being witness to watch should never happen in USA ❤🙏🇺🇸

  • @kimdelorme6314
    @kimdelorme6314Ай бұрын

    Major respect Joel, for you and your guests, for handling this tragedy with such class!♥️💙🇺🇸🇨🇦🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @christinehogue2062
    @christinehogue2062Ай бұрын

    Joel, your questions were the ones that make STS far superior to other interviews on this & other sibjects that ive watched!Really appreciate that and your guests were the best! Your coverage was just awesome.

  • @Loni783
    @Loni783Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! Amazing episode!!! Thank you all for your service. Also thanks so much Joel for always showing so much grace and love to people. So much respect for how you presented this.

  • @MeriV
    @MeriVАй бұрын

    Italians don’t say mazel tov, Joel. We say, salute! LOL silly man 😂

  • @Ocean1688
    @Ocean1688Ай бұрын

    Thank you all so much for breaking this down in such a sensible manner. !!

  • @kathrynebersol187
    @kathrynebersol187Ай бұрын

    Thank you Joel for all the podcasts you do. Please tell your mom thank you as well as the coe:-) You all do a great job on this podcasts with the best guests every time. I also wanted to thank you for writing your Mom's story, its amazing. Can you wrire another one on your dad's story, or your story about being a journalist?

  • @MichelleKavarnos
    @MichelleKavarnosАй бұрын

    BEST guests, BEST panel, BEST show!

  • @sierramade8
    @sierramade8Ай бұрын

    Witnes said he saw kid and so did others but cops did not look up. Why such a slow reaction?

  • @georgecooke9010

    @georgecooke9010

    Ай бұрын

    I ACTUALLY STATED THE TRUTH ABOVE, GOOD QUESTION, I'M A CONSEVATIVE DEMO TOO. WHAT HAPPENED TO ACCOUNTABILITY? I CRIED, I REMEMBER JFK, I'M THAT OLD. THEY DON'T CARE.

  • @georgecooke9010

    @georgecooke9010

    Ай бұрын

    THEY DELETED MY POST 3 TIMES BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I GOT IT POSTED AT 90 COMMENTS? SOMETHINGS UP. I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT DELETE YOUR POST TOO. AT LEAST IT'S HERE SINCE MY FIRST POST.

  • @jujubeane8334

    @jujubeane8334

    Ай бұрын

    Why do you think?

  • @jesLstout

    @jesLstout

    Ай бұрын

    don't use all caps. that's usually why ppl get deleted right off the bat​@@georgecooke9010

  • @weaverdreams

    @weaverdreams

    Ай бұрын

    Conspiracy?

  • @richardtatrojr5292
    @richardtatrojr5292Ай бұрын

    Where did the ladder come from?

  • @debbiebouchard2224
    @debbiebouchard2224Ай бұрын

    Some of those spectators didn’t even try to duck or get down. So scary.

  • @Marilyn88-
    @Marilyn88-Ай бұрын

    Great panel. Thank you Joel

  • @tvance3207
    @tvance3207Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this panel. I appreciate all your hard work

  • @debbiebouchard2224
    @debbiebouchard2224Ай бұрын

    How in the world did the shooter get on the rooftop??

  • @denisekenney4134

    @denisekenney4134

    Ай бұрын

    Who put the ladder there? Did he carry the ladder there, from his vehicle, then go back and walk to the ladder, with his gun.....and no secret service see this??? Inside job, much?

  • @tomdallas3690
    @tomdallas3690Ай бұрын

    So close to a situation like JFK, conspiracy theories, etc. And there have to be hundreds of videos of the hit to the ear. This is unreal.

  • @bettycattk5298

    @bettycattk5298

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, and the witnesses to JFK shooting had film confiscated and then the Warren commission brow beat them until they changed their testimony to fit the Warren Commission’s narrative. This poor guy who was witness will be worked over by the FBI and Secret Service. I feel for him. His hair does not look any worse than people who I see everyday. The experts on the panel are making a lot of excuses. If I were Trump, I would hire my own security as he did in 2016. Anyone who be a fool to trust anyone in Biden’s administration. I keep hearing that the goal of the Secret Service hiring staff is to make it woke, not hire best person for the job. I pray to God that, that is not true. WHO was the woman that was screaming at the top of her lungs?!?!?was she hit?

  • @londoncuppa1963
    @londoncuppa1963Ай бұрын

    How did he carry the ladder there

  • @mshoopdedoop
    @mshoopdedoopАй бұрын

    EXCELLENT show Joel! Many thanks to the COE on getting these guests on! Would love to hear more from them. Outstanding show!!!

  • @Kiki607
    @Kiki607Ай бұрын

    Really appreciate you covering this topic with these great guests!

  • @mimi.honey08
    @mimi.honey08Ай бұрын

    Seeking therapy after this? Really,Joel? If the Secret Service agents need therapy after this, they should probably find another line of work!

  • @EASTSIDERIDER707

    @EASTSIDERIDER707

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. They’re better than you give them credit for. No snowflakes in the Secret Service.

  • @TheSkeetergirl

    @TheSkeetergirl

    Ай бұрын

    Amen.

  • @bettycattk5298

    @bettycattk5298

    Ай бұрын

    how do you know ?

  • @EASTSIDERIDER707

    @EASTSIDERIDER707

    Ай бұрын

    @@bettycattk5298 It’s a man thing. We got rid of snowflakes in the 1st month of infantry school in the 60’s. Snowflakes get their buddies killed in war. These guys have been similarly vetted. Maybe DEI has watered the selection process.

  • @MeriV

    @MeriV

    Ай бұрын

    Joel is just projecting 😂

  • @patriotiac572
    @patriotiac572Ай бұрын

    I watched that unfold live, on KZread yesterday. Before President Trump took the stage there were interviews with attendees, including a 7 year old boy and some elderly people who were out there in the hot sun. So when all those shots happened, and all those screams followed, I was shocked and very concerned for all the people who were there. Shootings are so senseless and damaging to everyone. There's just no need for violence. This panel is the first coverage that I've watched, because when I saw the notification I knew your panel would calm us down by sharing their knowledge and experience with us. They did not disappoint. This is the best I've felt since this event happened, so thank you. I'm glad to hear COE got thru that fright at CVS, and Joel, I'm sure that if you were in the same situation, you'd have reacted like the great dad and genuine nice man that you are. This stream was a good one. I'll be sharing. Thank you.

  • @juliahewett7362

    @juliahewett7362

    Ай бұрын

    that thing is not the president

  • @MeriV
    @MeriVАй бұрын

    When did Secret Service start sitting down away from the stage? Didn’t they used stand on either side of the president, next to him?

  • @bettycattk5298
    @bettycattk5298Ай бұрын

    I saw the woman agent trying to get her gun back in her holster after they got Trump in the SUV. She was standing by the car.

  • @karenswanson118

    @karenswanson118

    Ай бұрын

    She is the same agent that when the first 2 shots were fired she is seen ducking down below the stage while the other agents ran to Trump. She is a disgrace.

  • @JP-su1eg

    @JP-su1eg

    Ай бұрын

    She was also holding on to her freakin sunglasses while trying to whisk President Trump away. Totally inept!!!

  • @jujubeane8334

    @jujubeane8334

    Ай бұрын

    @@JP-su1egshe made all woman be judge as clumsy and incompetent.

  • @brihaver1951
    @brihaver1951Ай бұрын

    Joel, You put on a great show in a short period of time! Great guests ♥️

  • @pamelablack5720
    @pamelablack5720Ай бұрын

    great guest panel today-very eye opening

  • @karccrn
    @karccrnАй бұрын

    Great panel today Joel!

  • @Ms2unique4u
    @Ms2unique4uАй бұрын

    What an embarrassing “so-called” response to Joel’s question from Scott! Joel asks about what the Officer who climbed the ladder to where the suspect was, should have done instead of seeing the suspect and climbing back down! Clearly, Scott didn’t want to answer honestly and say, if this man did that, he should be ashamed for not doing his job! Instead, we get a “Yeah, that’s a tough question Joel” BS answer to the question! Umm, I beg to differ with you Scott, it’s NOT “a tough question” at all! Your colleagues seemed to have zero problems answering the question, I’m assuming because they had the cojones to do so truthfully, instead of beating around the bush and not giving a straight answer, as you chose to do! GEEZ! 😤 Timestamp( 1:06:44 )Listen

  • @kmd1156

    @kmd1156

    Ай бұрын

    I listened and Scott answered the question, both carefully and hypothetically. Listen again.

  • @silikon2
    @silikon2Ай бұрын

    Is it possible the secret service snipers saw the guy but thought he was on the security team? They were looking right in his direction. I just wonder with the secret service itself and its law enforcement partners, etc, that's a whole lot of uniforms to remember.

  • @danabilladeau36

    @danabilladeau36

    Ай бұрын

    I read that they were not given the order to remove the threat 😮

  • @mattnsac

    @mattnsac

    Ай бұрын

    They can only fire when fired upon. Thats insane.

  • @weaverdreams

    @weaverdreams

    Ай бұрын

    Hell no.That team knew each other and the guy was wearing gray, trying to blend in with the roof. You could even see him from the stands watching Trump. You can see the shape up to the left on that bldg laying flat on the roof in some videos from the crowd.

  • @Lofilifer1

    @Lofilifer1

    Ай бұрын

    @@danabilladeau36 That would explain why these two experts didn’t see a muzzle flash from the ss snipers. I also noticed one late last shot, and then the woman screaming. Maybe that’s when the firefighter got hit, or maybe the guy took his own life when he saw Trump go down and local police were probably getting to him finally.

  • @garvingirl
    @garvingirlАй бұрын

    Very interesting show!!! Thanks to all!!!❤

  • @missycohen26
    @missycohen26Ай бұрын

    Another great panel. Thank you!

  • @maggielusk6833
    @maggielusk6833Ай бұрын

    As the great Bob Marley said. ONE LOVE! ❤❤

  • @Aozziegamer99
    @Aozziegamer99Ай бұрын

    The US is in serious decline.

  • @tiffanyray5360
    @tiffanyray5360Ай бұрын

    I noticed this instinct to document as opposed to survive during all of these commercial airline problems.

  • @arlenenolte8475
    @arlenenolte8475Ай бұрын

    Really good discussion

  • @Anne-py4uj
    @Anne-py4ujАй бұрын

    Great show and great guests!

  • @Thinking4myself-zt9vp
    @Thinking4myself-zt9vpАй бұрын

    Willful blindness…plain and simple…

  • @maggielusk6833
    @maggielusk6833Ай бұрын

    I thought it was his real hair too! I thought they were interviwing Dennis the Menace crossed with one of our Scottish See You Jimmy wigs! 😂😂

  • @RottenInDenmarkOrginal

    @RottenInDenmarkOrginal

    Ай бұрын

    You could tell it was a hair hat! Come on, man!

  • @tenaciousduk6587

    @tenaciousduk6587

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂 HONESTLY thought you were referring to trumps ridiculous hair. Then saw ginger guy, looked legit, same colour as his beard. 😅

  • @terrywilliams1960
    @terrywilliams1960Ай бұрын

    Was the police sniper told to wait?

  • @lizzyfabulous8367
    @lizzyfabulous8367Ай бұрын

    Great show! 🌹🌹🌹 I love Rob!

  • @lydiaanderson824
    @lydiaanderson824Ай бұрын

    On the replay, great panel.

  • @robertfeinberg748
    @robertfeinberg748Ай бұрын

    When Rob says this is not the country we are, in my book, this is the country we have become throughout the postwar era. American Exceptionalism means that we are exceptionally bad at government and not going to get better.

  • @christinajones8054
    @christinajones8054Ай бұрын

    Always love listening and learning from Scott Duffy! Thanks for another excellently facilitated program Joel. STS is the hardest working true crime podcast. 😊

  • @okiepatriot7740
    @okiepatriot7740Ай бұрын

    STS I was listening on replay, and it was Scott that called Trump a former vice president. I heard it! So yeah... that needed to be corrected.

  • @KassiePerkins-hq1kk
    @KassiePerkins-hq1kkАй бұрын

    Great program.

  • @user-cd9zo3tj1s
    @user-cd9zo3tj1sАй бұрын

    Thank you very interesting xx

  • @RevlisLovett
    @RevlisLovettАй бұрын

    KZread is a Censorship liability

  • @candicealexander8300
    @candicealexander8300Ай бұрын

    There are pics of the shooter and a commercial from black rock with the same person. Is this true?

  • @karenswanson118

    @karenswanson118

    Ай бұрын

    It sure is . Go to Melanie Kings site. She has the video.

  • @missycohen26

    @missycohen26

    Ай бұрын

    CNN has reported this, too. Black Rock apparently filmed a commercial in his high school classroom.

  • @michellemonet4358

    @michellemonet4358

    Ай бұрын

    Whats Black Rock?

  • @JP-su1eg

    @JP-su1eg

    Ай бұрын

    ​@michellemonet4358 ...the biggest & wealthiest investment conglomerate in the world. Who loves the almighty dollar & globalization.

  • @jujubeane8334

    @jujubeane8334

    Ай бұрын

    Yes. Commercials on another channel.

  • @jacquelinejacobson6789
    @jacquelinejacobson6789Ай бұрын

    How did this kid get onto the roof without someone telling SS to get Trump off stage?

  • @MeriV
    @MeriVАй бұрын

    Joel. It was Scott who called Trump former vice president. I didn’t hear you say it. I could have missed, I guess.

  • @jojomarieco954

    @jojomarieco954

    Ай бұрын

    And it was Biden, the other night, who called Kamala, Vice President Trump! lol

  • @barbarajoseph5897
    @barbarajoseph5897Ай бұрын

    You really do have “ EBEST OF THE BEST”!

  • @DeeDee-il7zk
    @DeeDee-il7zkАй бұрын

    I think we ALL know what happened here!!

  • @maggielusk6833
    @maggielusk6833Ай бұрын

    Joel COE well done another great show! Congrats to the daughter getting married. Have fun Rob at the wedding!

  • @Thinking4myself-zt9vp
    @Thinking4myself-zt9vpАй бұрын

    Oh wow! Character assassination of the witness now? “Looked at as a drunk?” Really?

  • @jeffridge5222
    @jeffridge5222Ай бұрын

    Did anyone check the "grassy knoll"?

  • @Darin.Pearson
    @Darin.PearsonАй бұрын

    Why does Joel keep saying "7 centimeters"?! 7 centimeters is almost 3 inches. All it would have taken is 1 to 2 centimeters.

  • @Lofilifer1

    @Lofilifer1

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe he meant milliliters?

  • @Darin.Pearson

    @Darin.Pearson

    Ай бұрын

    @Lofilifer1 Unless you are trying to be funny, milliliters is a measure of volume, not distance.

  • @Lofilifer1

    @Lofilifer1

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darin.Pearson I’m just dumb. I meant millimeters.

  • @Darin.Pearson

    @Darin.Pearson

    Ай бұрын

    @@Lofilifer1 Haha. With that response, I highly doubt it. You seem plenty smart to me.

  • @Lofilifer1

    @Lofilifer1

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darin.Pearson thanks for being a nice human being.😇

  • @pamelablack5720
    @pamelablack5720Ай бұрын

    I hear the sniper said he was told not to engage until that shot was fired- something to do with rules of engagement?

  • @helenestiernstrand6575

    @helenestiernstrand6575

    Ай бұрын

    If so, then they cant protect anyone.

  • @sharp3727
    @sharp3727Ай бұрын

    You didn’t mention the color of your bronco!

  • @tonisodano5472
    @tonisodano5472Ай бұрын

    No thanks

  • @JoJo-vv9rs
    @JoJo-vv9rsАй бұрын

    Wonder if his parents will be held responsible..... that family in Michigan both the husband and wife were and I did hear someone say whether it's true or not that his family did buy the gun for him

  • @barrettlori9249

    @barrettlori9249

    Ай бұрын

    That kid was still in school...16 yrs old I believe

  • @sophiachavez3377

    @sophiachavez3377

    Ай бұрын

    His father bought it.

  • @sophiachavez3377

    @sophiachavez3377

    Ай бұрын

    @@barrettlori924918

  • @sophiachavez3377

    @sophiachavez3377

    Ай бұрын

    18

  • @JoJo-vv9rs
    @JoJo-vv9rsАй бұрын

    Sorry to burst everybody's bubble but the lady from the Secret Service clearly said nothing was going to change they already have a high security setup and it's what they had before this and it's not going to change it will be the same

  • @Theresa-ul9bo
    @Theresa-ul9boАй бұрын

    QQQ are you getting your info from cnn?

  • @DanielMcGrath1969
    @DanielMcGrath1969Ай бұрын

    I knew you would tackle this event. I'm so glad to have you as a sensible outlet for my curiosity. Joel please replace your instrumental opening with one of mine. Ha! Ha! The Sphinx2-on "The Old Fat Danny McGrath Channel II"

  • @jojobaja
    @jojobajaАй бұрын

    Yes. They call one. .. President Obama.... now

  • @ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
    @ElizabethPuglisi-df2gtАй бұрын

    So we’re not allowed to say Donald J Trump for President ❤️🤍💙 then don’t report on this !!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

  • @tonyabanning
    @tonyabanningАй бұрын

    Jim Harris, show some Grace dude

  • @Truckermack12

    @Truckermack12

    Ай бұрын

    You mean like he showed me? My comment was not even directed at him and then he goes all keyboard warrior saying he throws down and threatens me with his jujitsu and then goes on calling my name? He's a punk keyboard warrior with an overinflated sense of self worth.

  • @cattoes1609

    @cattoes1609

    Ай бұрын

    Just watching reply, who is Jim Harris?

  • @Truckermack12

    @Truckermack12

    Ай бұрын

    @@cattoes1609 My Grandfather and his brother died freeing captives in WWI. My brother lost his leg in Iraq fighting for his right to speak. I am honorably discharged from USMC no combat. My entire family fought for him and his family. I made a comment that a quest called President Trump former VP. Joel thinks I'm talking about him and rips into me with throw down and ju jitsu. Totally inappropriate.. Details matter when you are presenting information as an expert. Not to this guy. He wants to shoot first and act like a tough guy behind the keyboard.

  • @45square

    @45square

    Ай бұрын

    @@Truckermack12agree. Details do matter no matter how big or small, especially when people rely on KZread to get their “facts”. Thank you for your service.

  • @Truckermack12

    @Truckermack12

    Ай бұрын

    @@45square Thank you. Well, I had considered reading his book but not now. I could have provided a lot of history of the event with family photos to substantiate it. I'll stay where details matter.

  • @lorigreen4134
    @lorigreen4134Ай бұрын

    Joel, you watch CNN?

  • @denisekenney4134

    @denisekenney4134

    Ай бұрын

    Their initial headline was that Trump fell over, then called it "an incident"🤦‍♀️

  • @RevlisLovett
    @RevlisLovettАй бұрын

    Bill of Rights v KZread stop deleting my comments KZread

  • @OnTheChurchSteps
    @OnTheChurchStepsАй бұрын

    DEI hire FAIL

  • @zandemen
    @zandemenАй бұрын

    Assassination? Your bias buddy Bederow says it was a prank, a pellet gun!

  • @joevigilvigil2017
    @joevigilvigil201722 күн бұрын

    Lousy aim!

  • @Theresa-ul9bo
    @Theresa-ul9boАй бұрын

    Not going to watch all this show,pretty sure its going to be one sided!!!! Not a good look.

  • @kimdelorme6314
    @kimdelorme6314Ай бұрын

    💔💔🕊️🕯️🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻🕯️🇨🇦

  • @tobberfutooagain2628
    @tobberfutooagain2628Ай бұрын

    Bottom line… incompetent admoronistration….

  • @michellemonet4358
    @michellemonet4358Ай бұрын

    Wow 1st comment

  • @Darin.Pearson

    @Darin.Pearson

    Ай бұрын

    Posting "1st comment" is not a comment. If you don't have something to say about the specific show, it doesn't count as a comment.

  • @michellemonet4358

    @michellemonet4358

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darin.Pearson It IS a comment. It means.. "wow I was first here."

  • @Darin.Pearson

    @Darin.Pearson

    Ай бұрын

    @michellemonet4358 That not a comment. That's ringing someone's doorbell and running away. Doesn't count.

  • @ninastanek3388
    @ninastanek3388Ай бұрын

    Love you America? For what?

  • @timestax

    @timestax

    Ай бұрын

    For being blessed to still be living in the greatest country in the world. We have problems and have lost some of our freedoms. But we are still the best. What country do you live in? If you live in the US move to a r country that makes you happier.

  • @_introvertlife3692

    @_introvertlife3692

    Ай бұрын

    @@timestax😂😂

  • @timestax

    @timestax

    Ай бұрын

    @@_introvertlife3692 And America is about to become greater. Go MAGA!!!

  • @clasgolf
    @clasgolfАй бұрын

    Too many anomalies!!!

  • @bettycattk5298
    @bettycattk5298Ай бұрын

    I saw the woman agent trying to get her gun back in her holster after they got Trump in the SUV. She was standing by the car.

  • @jujubeane8334

    @jujubeane8334

    Ай бұрын

    She looked quite frazzled and definitely not like you expect from secret service.

  • @janeferguson1246

    @janeferguson1246

    Ай бұрын

    57:51 One of the female agents was the one who had her body in front of Trump's Center Mass when they got him to the car. Irony or symbolism that a Woman protected his center mass. Trump trusted her...people who say he doesn't. Like or respect women..ponder that!

  • @gstar1309

    @gstar1309

    Ай бұрын

    Not to mention the 5 foot nothing female agent that made a body shield around Trump , she left his head exposed due to her being short and Trump being 6'4

  • @Scotsmama

    @Scotsmama

    Ай бұрын

    I was horrified watching that.

  • @zandemen
    @zandemenАй бұрын

    Assassination? Your bias buddy Bederow says it was a prank, a pellet gun!

  • @annm9589

    @annm9589

    Ай бұрын

    He denounced it as soon as he had more info.

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