What Went Wrong? Cessna 150 Engine Failure in Flight
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Why did the engine die? We take a quick helicopter flight out to the Cessna 150 that had an engine failure and bring them some snacks. We find out what went wrong! 😮
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Mike and Chandra, just another huge thank you for all you did for us. Your kindness and generosity did so much to turn a stressful situation into a very meaningful experience. I hope you both know how grateful we are to have you in the aviation community. I so enjoyed getting to know you and hope our paths cross in the future. Also, I can’t agree with you more about the safety factor provided by a satellite communicator. My In-Reach goes everywhere with me in the plane and in the backcountry. I won’t fly without one. Sincerely, thank you again. - Matt
@1946psoren
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt. great to see you teaching and flying. never thought i would catch you in Mike's KZread site
@louskunt9798
2 жыл бұрын
Great job Matt!👍
@ChandraSlyFoxPatey
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it was a pleasure to meet you as well and I’m so thankful that your ordeal went as well as it did.
I live a few miles from a small non-towered airport. I am on the downwind/left base for the runway. They fly directly over my house. Not too long ago we heard a sputtering engine while grilling on my deck. It was cutting out bad like it was out of fuel or had bad fuel or the filter was clogged. It was too cloudy to see. But an hour after I go to pick up my boys from baseball practice and sure enough there was a Cessna 172 sitting in a field several hundred feet from the runway! There were already a few vehicles in the field with it and I could see the cowling was off and they were using a truck bed gate as their workbench. By the time I got the boys and passed again, it was gone. So whatever it was must have been minor and easily fixed. But that just goes to show how quickly it can go to hell in a hand basket and how you must be prepared at all times. I wish I knew for certain what it was, but I didn't want to bother them being a Nosey Nellie.
The locating beacons are sooo important to those of us who participate in outdoor adventures. I do abandoned mine exploring, so we travel in very remote regions of the desert southwest. If we were overdue, it could take days or weeks just to locate our vehicle. Now we "ping" our location before we go underground and again when we exit. S&R would know EXACTLY where to start a rescue if something happens. Cell phones are wonderful, but you shouldn't bet your life on one. Thanks for the follow up on the Cessna!
I take a garmin on every trip, even if I'm going to be in Cell range. The very first day I activated my inreach I had to use it. I found a disabled truck on a stretch of highway. 70km from cell range on Vancouver island. At the time I took two of the 4 people back to the nearest town so they could call a tow truck. I went back and waited with them for the truck. But at the time I forgot to fuel up myself, so I couldn't get back again. Well the tow truck got there at midnight.... and broke down. The tow driver couldn't call for help, no one else was coming on the highway that late. So I used the garmin to text the people I had dropped off in town. They were able to call another tow truck, and even the owner of the first tow company came out. He said "I got this strange text from some random number about my driver being broke down in the middle of nowhere, I need to get one of these inreach things!!" If I hadn't had my inreach, everyone would have had to stay the night in cold fall conditions in the middle of nowhere. Probably not life threatening, but sure not pleasant!
@ChandraSlyFoxPatey
2 жыл бұрын
That’s absolutely crazy! So glad you had your Garmin!!
I'm an amateur radio operator and I love the versatility of radio. I am also a realist and recognize you need to have options. Good on you for having radio, Garmin, and whatever else you need to make contact in a bad situation. Thanks for the great reminder in this video.
@trentjensen96
2 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that Mike isn't a ham. If he is, he keeps it on the down low. 73s KJ7GIJ.
Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers! you guys are really cool!!
@lnomgaudas1307
2 жыл бұрын
Kudri, kokda vidos budet?!
Your truly one of the great ones Mike! You bring a true sense of balance, love, care, help & character to the aviation community that is not only appreciated, but highly respected & admired! I would be proud to know you, work for you, or with you...if I could only be so lucky! Ok you know the drill..back to work! 😜
I've always thought carrying an EPIRB when heading remote was a really good idea. That piston is one to keep on the wall. Great to see the bird back at the airport for a full check.
Valves don't get sucked in unless there are other problems such as being stuck in valve guides, improper valve keeper installation or lack of or improper maintenance. Connecting rod would also need checked for straightness before it snaps in two and video episode 2 "Helicopter airlifts C150 out of creek everybody ok" is made.
Great day! Packing for Osh AND a new Mike video
I've been eyeing the inreach for a while now. I have a tendency to end up in incredibly remote places, sometimes alone. I've been stranded and had to walk out a couple times. Truthfully, I think its probably something I should start carrying when I go out in the Jeep or on the dirt bike. Hearing from someone that does search and rescue how frequently you have seen this being something that could be a life saver, I might just order one tonight.
@davidregan9872
2 жыл бұрын
There was a 42 year old man who just died out riding his Quad. It got too dark to find him so they waited till the next day. They think he was riding drunk, and drove off the gravel road. He wasn't wearing a helmet, and hit a tree killing him instantly! I have gotten turned around in the woods, and it doesn't feel good. The last time I was drinking beer, and almost got heatstroke! Thank god a friend happened to find me. He didn't know I got turned around.
My father was an aerial ag pilot (crop duster) and many years ago his Pawnee engine swallowed a valve while he was on his way out to spray a field, with a full load of spray on at low altitude. Ag airplanes have a big dump gate on the bottom of the hopper that dumps the whole load in seconds to lose that weight, so he pulled the dump handle and jettisoned the load then landed in the middle of a grain field. No damage to him or the airplane other than the engine. Did shake him up a bit though, but he handled it well. They pulled the airplane to a nearby country road, replaced the engine and he took off again from that road. Back to Work, Ha 💪💥💨
@mopar92
2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t ferrying while commercially operating but it’s a cool story.
@oneninerniner3427
2 жыл бұрын
@@mopar92 well geez sorry, he wasn't ferrying the airplane per say, it was airworthy and not in need of a ferry permit. It was just a word to mean he was on his way (ferrying) out to spray a field ok. And it is a true story! The herbicide he was carrying kill a good sized patch of grain in that field but he knew and had sprayed for that farmer and the farmer was ok with it. There I took ferrying out, Are you better now?
What a guy. Allways trying to help someone else... Mike you are amazing young man for sure.
That cylinder head was nasty. Ouch. Glad to hear all are well. Congrats to Charles, welcome to the club.
Thanks for the video Mike. It reminds me of my recent course on Search and Rescue.
Hello from Minnesota! Really great episode! Thanks for helping them out and for all you do for general aviation!! See you at Oshkosh!!
Thanks Mike for all you guys do!!🙏
Made me quite emotional watching this - thank you Patey’s for everything you do for the aviation community!
Thanks for helping these guys out! What a great family.
Excellent point on the Garmin InReach. I Had the exact thing happen to my 150, engine sucked a valve. I did not have near that big a field to land in.
Nice video, GREAT safety tips. I wonder if we will ever see Mike fly Scrappy again????
Can't wait for the new build videos if there is some in the way. Enjoy them thx for posting Mike all the best
Mike, I do not watch you consistantly but every time I do it's so moving. You are a special guy. Draco forever. Thanks.
Wow! If my 150 has an engine out I hope it goes out out there. That’s awesome y’all can do this sort of thing. I’m not sure we have enough open land for this here at the coast of Alabama. You not only, thankfully, survived, the plane survives as well. Love this
CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLES!! 🙌 Wow, that valve sure beat the crap out of that piston! Also first time I've ever seen piston rings around the skirt before - very interesting!! Excellent points on carrying that Garmin, too. Thanks for sharing, Mike!
Thanks Mike for being a person who genuinely cares for all others
Bad a$$ guy, huge heart! Thank you Mr Patey for your support to these gentlemen.
Thank you for everything u have done to help people. U make me want to be a better person. Thank buddy. Keep up the great work.
Heartwarming. Thought-provoking. Encouraging. Educational. This video is all that and more. A Garmin InReach has been on my wish list ever since I started building my aircraft. Now that I'm flying it, it will be my next major purchase. Hope to see you at OSH; it will be my first year flying in so wish me luck!
thanks for sharing
Bravo, and Congratulations, Charles ! - Thank You, Mike...Fly ON !
On the subject of how an incident can change your life... I am with Mason County SAR in WA. Was recently called out for a missing quad rider. We found him. He was coming down a gravel road with a significant drop off on one side. He missed the turn. Cant say for sure if helmet jacket gloves boots and pants would have saved him but im pretty sure he would have lived. Now I ride with all the gear all the time ATGAT. Its not a matter of IF your going to crash it WHEN! We all spill a bike eventually. Keep up the good work! Now its time for me to get back to work!
I used to be in Law enforcement, my instructor was not upset that when we did engine out the first time but concerned that I didnt panic because I trained to be calm during an emergency, we can have nerves after, once he knew that we had a great time. As I said before, a micro burst on final was my only time he took over and then gave it back right away. I love your content. keep up the great work. My local airport is getting a new runway so hope to get back up in the air as soon as they are done.
Great video. Congrats to the new Pilot! More experienced with Engine Failures than most!
Very nice Mike! People can be very good and you prove this!
Great video Mike, that piston sure was chewed up. Thank you for sharing the conclusion to this story. Keep up the great work my friend. 🤘🇺🇸🛩️
Excellent stuff bro
Great improvement in the audio quality on this video Mike. Thanks for thinking of our old ears and investing in the DJI wireless microphone kit - they sound awesome.
@RealRickCox
2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why Mike didn't have better microphones.... I don't think he's short on cash. I mean, he could always sell one of his planes and buy a mic. :)
@skytec
2 жыл бұрын
@@RealRickCox Adding radio microphones adds to the complexity and time of editing a video as sound and video tracks need to be synchronised together - if they are not hard wired. Our great thanks needs to be extended to Mike and his behind the scenes team for this extra commitment to add to our enjoyment of the videos they publish for us to watch for free
Man that chopper looks great. Reminds me of turbulence, what a crazy plane.
Mike, I'm a huge fan, but as a fellow C150 owner this means a lot! I fly long cross countries in mine often. Crossing the big mountains makes the question of 'what would I do if she quits right now' resonate a lot! I bought my first C150 at Spanish Fork back in 2006. All the best!
@embededfabrication4482
7 ай бұрын
That's why you fly from one landing site to another in a single engine plane, it's not if, but when.
What an awesome video. I want to start flying and I live in Spanish fork. It’s awesome to see the best aviation van drive by my office almost everyday. Thanks for the tip on the Garmin I can use one of those for so much more than just my aviation pursuits.
Great channel Mike, and fantastic job on their part. I had the same failure back in my flight instructor days. Luckily mine happened at 6,000 feet over ONT airport, and I still had partial power all the way down. When I was in my early 20's, I too never really worried about engine failures, even instructing in the mountains out of Rangely, CO, or flying over the water in the LA area. It's good to be young and immortal 😃. I'm glad to have two turbine engines now.
Garmin isn't the only one with a good product. You make great points on the radio issues.
Amen on the Garmin Inreach, and it was nice of you guys to go out there to get 'er runnin' and flyin'...
This has got to be one of the coolest stories I've seen on youtube!! So good to see how things turned out well, and, someone got a new license, to boot!! Very cool!!
Congratulations, Charles!!! Well done.
I used to carry a SPOT locator that you can program messages that send messages immediately with the GPS position. This was in the remote Australian bush, no phone service and no UHF radio reception. This unit only has one way satellite coms, fairly old unit!
Great video @Mike Patey see you at Oshkosh!
The "In Reach" is a necessity for travelling in Alaska. I keep mine on my person. Too easy to get separated from it in a mishap.
Great stuff Mike - just love that heli of yours. Glad the outcome was good. :)
Agree totally with your assessment. After my engine out you definitely understand the risk management of the situation. Thanks for this video!
Recived my Garmin Inreach Mini last week 😊👍🏻🤪
I watched the video when he lost lost his engine when you landed by him this was a great video Mike I love it.
Very nice video, congratulations and keep on going, greetings from Remi from Belgium
I That engine failure reminds me of a call out to check a Cessna that made emergency landing at an airport. 1 cylinder had no compression, so while a air compressor was pumping up to do a compression check I decided to pull the valve cover off. When I took the cover off the rocker arms and rocker shaft dropped on the ground. What happened was the rocker shift bosses both were broken off the jug. Next day I came back with a cylinder kit changed it out and then I fly it back to Ft Lauderdale.
Thanks for talking about the garmin. Didn't know about them. I think there was some hiker a couple weeks ago that was on the news. They thought a plane went down but it was a hiker. Must have used one of them. I need to get one for my hunting and fishing, even though I think I am in good areas, cell phones don't always work.
inReach 2 in the bag too, Great vid, great outcome, and congratulation Charles ~ !
Way too go great video Mike
I excellent advice from this video, and I recognized the hand signal about air between the buildings.
Great editing! 👍🏼💪🏼
I got the inreach for my plane. I fly a small Rans S6 in Southern UT. It can get pretty desolate pretty quickly. I wouldn’t want to fly without it. I still need to kit out emergency blankets and stuff but that was my number one emergency tool.
Your voice is a powerful force for safety.!!
Had an engine failure 3rd solo flight, a 150 descends so much quicker when the engine fully stops than when the instructor cuts the throttle, training kicked in and landed plane safely. That’s when nerve’s started and I was shaking like a leaf!
@miloswanson9646
2 жыл бұрын
Back in 1974, after taking off from a sod runway at a major International airport,and my instructor pulled it at 300AGL on takeoff. Back then there was a Interstate bridge over a 100" deep river valley just off the departure end about 120° to the left that was under construction -- The Interstate wasn't complete yet - and he wanted me to set up to land on that bridge... I had maybe 8 hours - no I just looked at my logbook and it was 3.6 hours -- I froze...
Replacing a cylinder, piston and valve in the field and flying home, that's so fucking cool!
Great follow up on the Cessna emergency landing. Having a Garmin InReach device sounds like good advice for anyone travelling in remote areas no matter what your mode of transport is. Mike you gotta get Draco flying again.
Congrats to Charles!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the flying clube!!!! One thing i am wondering is what else had to be replaced on that 152 besides the piston and jug. How did the connecting rod look? Was there any other metal in the crankcase? I can't wait to see you up at OSH!
Happy that they made it safely. 400USD for the device might seem a lot for something we normally/actively don't use, but it becomes a bargain when the life depends on it...
Thank you, Mr. Patey.
Hello 👋 ELT was all we had ! We used snow mobiles and rubber rafts to disassemble a Pa 28 181 instead of cutting up and chopper out! Every bolt , turn buckle,cable, Fuel ,oil, everything! Dad was FAA Award Winning A&P IA ? Never forget those Recovery’s! Thanks
Glad everyone is OK! That field looks rough!
Thank you for the follow up . When is Mike Patey going to take some time for Mike Patey again ? I am sure i am not just talking for myself . But I would love to see some back country flying with Scrappy and see you having some fun !!!
Love the video love the Karma love your channel love aviation love you lots take care be aware it's a rough world out there.
Mike I'm shocked you didn't bring beer steaks and a BBQ grill down to those good people so everyone can party, then the plane could have been flown home the next day. Seriously though you are a lucky man and good and kind to anyone in need you come across, you have many blessings to be thankful for in this life my friend and It's obvious that you know that
Awesome mate 👏
I think you can rent In Reach devices. We use them when we go boating.
Love any type of content from such an inspirational family. Mikes not bad either :)
@tomcoryell
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
Awesome content!
We had an Inreach in the group on my Doubtful sound trip, they're a brilliant device. I'd set off a PLB first, they're first and foremost an emergency device, the Inreach would be for a lower level of emergency myself. a PLB is also a single purpose device with a one time use battery, so there is no chance of forgetting to charge it.
Checking for piston holes, and ring dings, is a racing crew skill. When you did that I knew it could fly home!
Hi Mike and Chandra, Excellent video! They were so very lucky as well as skilled. I plan on buying an in reach device when I'm able to fly again. The inreach should be part of All aircraft when built or at the least on flight school aircraft. I think it would make a major difference to the outcome of some of the many off field landings. "Helicopter lands just after plane lands shows just how much you care." Thank you for all you do. Take care, Be safe.
It won't happen to, but it could be prepared. Fantastic video and message 👏 👍 👌 🤠
The 121.5 Mhz emergency channel is supposed to work by you being able to contact a commercial plane flying overhead. In UK we have planes overhead for most of the country. Maybe in some of your remote areas there may be a lack of them.
Whoo hoo a new video 🥳
Hey Mike, It'd be great to see a video just on safety and prep for an engine failure. Expand on your perception of what changed for you after an engine failure.
Mike can really drive the point home in taking safety seriously. You can clearly tell that he's seen way too many crashes or situations where people could have survived if found earlier. The segment where he talks about the failed rescues should be shown in every safety class in general aviation. Just sayin'... ✌
Jimmy and Mike dropping videos within an hour of each other. Christmas in July!
@eugeneweaver3199
2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
Great video and rescue also 🙏👍
Good advice Mike re the Garmin inreach. I travel car/motorcycle with one always. (in AUS and NZ)
You two really are amazing people.
"Do we take the Chopper, or Scrappy?" Mike Patey problems...
Loved the video, would be keen on an update for Draco X and scrappy;)
Nice one Mike
Awesome Mike《☆》Nice Bell 206 Brother👍Great advice to everyone about survival of these situations. I worked General aviation for 5 years before getting hired by my local Law enforcement agency as an Aircraft mechanic. I've had lots of 3am Chip light calls that were mostly easy fixes & fly it back to base. Only a few had to be trailered but Thankfully no fatalities. I'm retired now & many of my off base emergency calls are a blurr but I remember my 1st time going out to a private Airstrip where a Flight schools Pa28 160 had landed safely with a cylinder head slapping against the cowling. The only thing holding the head was the exhaust stack. Fond memories of how happy the student Pilot & Instructor were to see me. The Caretaker of the property had to unlock a gate to let me in. It was a nice runway & hangar owned by the Davis family who own Winn Dixie grocery stores in the Southeastern US. He couldn't wait to get the airplane off his property so he was very helpful. I was surprised that my Boss sent me out on the mission as I was the least experienced mechanic at the FBO but I'm happy he did. That was back in 1995 & before I had garnered my IA. I had my A&P since 1987 but very little experience before going to the Army in 1988 for Warrant Officer Flight training. I'm always excited to see stuff like this on KZread. I wish I was still working on aircraft sometimes but the Flying is what I miss the most. Take care & keep up the good work🖖😎☮
You are a good man Mike!
Solid lesson and operation all the way around , team work @"back to work!" :)
Mike, you are a rock star bud!
Mike. There are many living vicariously through you videos as it's the best they can hope for. If there is a way to pump out 2 min segments like a daily captains log, of wisdom or sharing. It would be positive to humanity , an easy hundred fold. From children sh!##ing green to deathbed coughing green sharing their smiles to the last moments. Mike, you make a difference bro.
I always fly with my SPOT 3 tracker here in BC, it doesn't take long at all to be "in the middle of nowhere" in the mountains here. Great job on the field engine rebuild. Though, I would have had a BBQ and beer, and waited til morning to fly out.
Dude...Mike, you ROCK!
Cell phones and hand held radios can be remarkably useless at times.
@leviduff2740
2 жыл бұрын
If you live in mountains you find that out the hard way sometimes