I totally disregarded Sanson until Salem, but after finishing it I went and Maxed him out and got rewarded by his gorgeous max ascension art. Salem made him so good that it makes you forgive him for being french

@nananimii

Жыл бұрын

ONGG

@Nyangorou1

Жыл бұрын

My issue was him being the one to end my one and only home, Marie Antoinette. But after seeing how serious he takes his job as an executioner, it's just hard to see him in a bad light anymore

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

For me it was the exact oppossite lol He was my most grailed servant between the 1-3 ☆ except for julius caesar and decided to just leave him gathering dust after salem

@kiszkjmt8564

Жыл бұрын

I'm so proud of this community, that the most liked comment under Salem video is about Sanson. I wish devs showed him some love too.

@guilhermegaspar752

Жыл бұрын

I did the same, but i didn't grail him.... yet

The fact in less than 3 mins Gerimno opts out of coming and makes everyone realize why was a hilarious and perfect foreshadowing of how that town is going to be and how frustrating fear can play a part in undermining common sense.

The most impactful part of Salem for me was the first execution. The suddenness in which it happens, the special animation that plays, the feeling that the antagonist has made you for a fool and is clearly not an enemy to be taken lightly, it was awesome. The rest of the story was indeed frustrating but i don't blame the writers, its clear that it was left unfinished. It obvious from the suddenness that she disappears, only to reappears right after that there was an entire "Mash is going to be executed" chapter there are some point that was entirely cut out.

I like to think Salem was a "what if the writer tried to emulate Lovecraft's style of horror, with some bumps here and there." It worked well for the most part and despite the writers being different for any outer god story after, Salem set a precedent for the next stories to improve on.

not gonna lie, i would love to see an anime of Salem because i agree that the fights add F* nothing in game, but animating those fights showing the servants struggle? boy that would be cool. I also like how the servants you brought all play into some lovecraftian troupe character, it feels like a Call of chtullhu rpg party.

As a huge Lovecraft fan I have to say I am kind of disappointed with how little the characters are used in FGO. I love Abby but Lavinia probably should have been the one to become the Foreigner especially since she actually has a connection to Yog Sothoth. Also, not making Randolph Carter a servant is a huge missed opportunity given what an interesting character he is in the mythos and all the potential he has. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they might add Abdul Alhazred in as a Caster in the future, or maybe even Asenath Waite since Lovecraft did TypeMoon’s job for them and genderbent her already.

@barghest8763

Жыл бұрын

just hoping that we will get another lovecraftian chapter on the lb aftermath "extra class bad" chapter (i forgot the name). i mean randolph carter and abby is still alive and wandering out there in another dimension with abby key

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

Thing is Lavinia BIRTHS the god’s vessel in the tale. So in a way they ran with the concept that Lavinia is the key that break is Abigail.

@Kumire_921

Жыл бұрын

I'll never forgive them for not making Lavinia a servant, they made so many references and even gave us a real lovecraftian character from The Dunwich Horror only to forget about her.

They made good work of Hopkins, if a character can make you hate them without the character acting stupid then the writers were able to convey the characters personality really good

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

The only bad part about him was a lack of relevance when he was alive or his death being simply "another thing that happened" Maybe it would've been good having him with a plot twist revealing him as a good guy despite being like that but still the character deserved a little more of something He has an important role at the start but when the story is changing direction he's relegated to the sidelines until he dies

I like to think that Mephy's brief interruption in the story wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be, but only because of the small detail he dropped off hand, that I haven't seen anyone talk about, and that is the date this was all happening, April 30th, or known by its other name, Walpurgisnacht, a pagan holiday celebrated by witches for being the night where rituals and magic being at their highest power and efficacy (I don't remember if that has other requirements like lunar phases). It's also stated that Mephy has a wide interpretation as to what he defines as a hellscape too; in both Ruler Jeanne's interludes, he makes a constant appearance as the antagonist, which at the end, spoilers, reveals he is there because she's actually torturing herself for wishing for wanting to be saved from her execution even though, to her, it was the thing that she felt was proof of her loyalty to God (this also resulted in the re-appearance of "Dark Jeanne" as a justification for Jalter, as we know her now) In essence, Mephy appears to those who torture themselves, as when he appears in Salem, for whatever reason, we the Master, are the only ones that can see him. Wonder why that could be, 5 lostbelts after the fact... This incident, and the others before it, occurred all just over a 4 month period after we defeated Goetia and restored humanity.

@trdl23

Жыл бұрын

Mephistopheles showing up here was BRILLIANT. His appearance - and the fact nobody else can see him - shows that we, the MC, the savior of humanity, are starting to lose touch with reality because of the tension and horror we have witnessed here. It’s the wake-up call that the madness Lovecraft is so famous for is starting to deep in, and thus actually helps us stave it off for longer.

@michaelmcdoesntexist1459

Жыл бұрын

We need a 5* Mephy in the future. Come on Lasagna

I really loved salem(mostly because i love horror). The complete tonal shift was amazing. I remember this was the only chapter in which i was very concerned about what was going to happen next.

Salem, to me, was incredibly frustrating and drained my sanity. And that’s why I fucking love it. This story of Eldritch proportions inspired by some of the most paranoia filled times of human history perfectly emulates the feeling of anxiety and tension that you get from those situations and makes you keep reading the story hoping to find some answer to your sudden insanity. The story may not be the most masterfully written narrative but in terms of world building and general atmosphere, it’s a perfect work of fiction

Nezha showing up is a new kind of "i forgot you even existed" She was "i didn't even knew you existed to begin with" during salem, like later some other servants would become

I loved Salem since it gave so much love to low star servants

The most memorable fights (outside of the fight with Abby and the the first against Ghouls) are the fights as parts of the plays. And that was an ingenious way of having those fights (which admittedly are padding ...) without shoehorning an unnecessary attack by something or needless fetch quest etc. in there. Otherwise to me the key how Abby is used in Salem is Lavinia and her relationship to her. It is more about figuring what Lavinia is doing and why than about Abby having agency in the story - and that is OK for me. To put it bluntly: it is an romantic (non-sexual) two girl relationship with Abby as the apocalypse maiden and damsel on a larger scale. Salem also gets additional background atmosphere points for how t portraits the now soon upcoming shut-down of Chaldea and makes that bitter-sweet sense of finality to "the old age" palatable. (Plus it has Circe and that makes it immediately better, that but of waifu-ism must be allowed to me; "I am not a witch; I am the the queen witch!".)

I feel like Salem will suit more with LB style of quest story, more 0 AP quest story than fight, more chapter to flesh out the character, and more character that can be involved in the story. But then again back then EOR is like their experiment for setting up LB, so it really can't be helped

while i liked Salem quite a bit, i still think Shinjuku was the best of the remnants, it just worked really well and was fun to play through, even though the story wasn't anything too outstanding

Salem almost felt like the writers wanted to test the waters with dark, exhausting stories in a mobile game - which, were the developers not only entirely different but also *from different countries*, I'd almost say was a dry run for Project Moon's Limbus Company, who hits many similar story tones and atmosphere.

The Boudica and Roman relationship was actually re explored in Roma interlude where she manage to sort of forgive Nero and all the other Romans except Grand Lancer Roma because he is the embodiment of Rome itself. The same Rome that allowed her and her children to be defiled and wiped out.

@Talyrion

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I love that interlude, but it's kind fo twisted that such a vital part of Boudica's character is explored in someone else's interlude - and a limited SSR, at that.

@banbowyt8945

Жыл бұрын

@@Talyrion yeah honestly that feels more like an Interlude for Boudicca than Roma

@lookingforlove839

Жыл бұрын

​@@banbowyt8945 Roma is basically a tool. So it makes sense that even his interlude is about someone else

still waiting for lavinia out of npc jail...

My favorite part of salem was meeting the trio of jeannes but at the same time that was my least favorite part in the sense that I was supposed to destroy their fortress everytime and kill them. Funnily enough I used my own 3 jeannes to kill the jeannes so there is that

"Nezha is a protector of children, so her job is to protect Abigail, but even that just feels weird and wrong." Probably because that's Atalanta's defining character trait, so that role would have suited her more.

@lookingforlove839

Жыл бұрын

OMG don't remind me. I hate atalante so much in Apocrypha. Her whole character trait was "i like children". But yeah, you are right. Atalante would have fit better for the role

@giladmachluf3663

9 ай бұрын

@@lookingforlove839 Thing is, she has a good reason for it.

Having a chapter that takes place near where you live is the most surreal thing ever.

I feel you on FGO not actually diving into historical character conflicts among characters that historically should hate each other. One of the only times i really remember it coming into play was when Lakishmi Bai first saw Sherlock and i thought of shit she’s actively not going to be our ally because it looks like we’re allied with a British man and then it was just briefly swept under the rug right after I’m like you lived your life fighting for the rights of your people against British colonialism I expected a more Penth reaction than a tacit Boudica one

@grandpagohan1

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but I also extend that to a much broader sense. We have all these servants hanging out together. I really want to see them chat since they have knowledge of events after their deaths. And good God, can we PLEASE get some therapists at Chaldea? Can make an entire group session of just the goddamn Arthurians.

@ssj5gogeta1310

Жыл бұрын

@@grandpagohan1 I'm not sure therapy is an option. Servants with issues can be pretty volatile. Push their buttons too much, and one outburst on their part may result in a fatal outcome for the therapist. So either the therapist needs Servant bodyguards, potentially violating the confidentiality, or the therapist needs to be a Servant. I may be forgetting someone, but the only Chaldean Servant who is a licensed therapist is Kiara, right? I don't think I would trust her with mental health of Servants.

@AusSP

Жыл бұрын

Uh, no, that's not at all accurate to Lakshmi Bai's history. She was not particularly inclined to rebel against the British, only did because of an association with a massacre against some British officers, wives, and children, that she may not have actually been involved with at all, which led to the Governor General not granting her support against the British East India Company's attempt to annex Jhansi, and fought against the British for about *one* year. She never betrayed the British; circumstances eventually forced her to believe that the British betrayed her. Lakshmi Bai not helping the world-saving squad because of a British *civilian* makes no sense. She'd have more of a beef with Artoria than Sherlock.

@Talyrion

Жыл бұрын

@@grandpagohan1 I mean, we have a therapist. It's Kiara. No-one is allowed to see her.

@cameraredeye3115

Жыл бұрын

@@Talyrion Yeah, because she goes full Beast III mode if we even try to rely on her for therapy....

Surprised you never brought up the play sections. I personally found them to be a nice way to provide a bit of break from the tension while allowing us to fight with non-gimped Servants for a while. The fight against the Jeannes that devolved into some quasi-three little pigs spoof stands out to me for just how bizarre it was. Not to mention, they also used that for when you had to defend Mata Hari in trial. Then again, I guess that's more of a gameplay thing and not really story-relevant (one of these plays can only be accessed after you beat the main story, even). Just a thing that also stands out to me alongside some of the more tense moments.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

For me it was like a comical relief when the entire town was revealed to be full of monsters I thought "so you're telling me i had to act like an idiot during those plays for nothing?! *berserker battle cry* " hahaha

The biggest problem I had with Salem was probably the disconnect you pointed out between how weak we're supposed to be and how we still fought alright. The instant Hopkins dared to touch one of my Servants I was ready to crack skulls, and having the narrative go on about how bad and idea that was frustrated me. Nothing was done to make me feel that a couple constables with rifles would be a threat but the story insisted upon it.

There's an issue I have here that I had in Heian-Kyo: It's really hard to read things only two lines at a time, and going back and forth between the log just feels clunky.

So I just finished Salem. Holy shit, that was the first FGO story that had me actually interested in whats going on. Best story chapter so far for me.

Personally Salem is by far my least favorite Epic of Remnant. I have a lot of respect for what it tried to do, and there are some things it did do very well. But as a whole it felt like bigger wasted potential than even Agartha. (Tho I will admit my expectations for Agartha were so low going in that I ended up surprised it was London bad). As you said this chapter has Samson and Mata Hari's best writing by far. Robin hood is good as well. The overall atmosphere is incredible and the chapter has great tension. Really unique stuff. Witchfinder General is a great villain. Some of the exicutions are truly gripping. The problem is everything else. As you said Abbey feels completely tacked on in her own story and is just cute. Her interlude is much more interesting. Nezha just exists which is a frequent problem of her writing. Medea/Circe feel like they exist only to loosely explore the ideas of witches, but don't really do much. She is fun at least. Sheba is a character with so much potential, Solomon aka Romani's former wife. Does nothing. As hard as they go with Mata Hari and Samson, everyone else is left behind. Then there's my biggest problem. The fucking play segments. They eat so much screen time. They are boring. Kinda silly and ruin the oppressive tension being built up. And exist just to tell us history we may already know. They just feel so out of place and really fuck up the pacing and tone of the early chapters. Then there's what you mention. The ending is rushed and anticlimactic, and every fight is a boring slog except Abbeys fight. That was cool. I admire Salem for what it tried to do and what it succeeded in. But it's dragged down too hard by a myriad of factors.

@NotSpecialDude

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat about them plays. I had no guilt skipping their cutscenes once I realized their irrelevance. The only one I liked was the Circe play done in the bar. The deal breaker for me was actually the ending. Yeah, Abbey being underdeveloped was disappointing and the add-on Servants felt underwhelming, but none of that bothered me since they still could be used in gameplay. That ending with Carter, now that was stupid. Lovecraft reference or not, that was not a satisfying way to end it. Especially since if you're not blessed by the gatcha gods (i.e me) you wouldn't get Abbey and thus her interlude. The worst part of Salem for me is that, it's the prelude to the lost belts. All the other chapters in EoR had some foreshadowing to the LBs in either tone, theme, plot, or a mix. Shinjuku set up the clocktower's discontent in the beginning. Argatha has you destroy three kingdoms with it's respective people disappearing upon the leader's defeat, culminating with a battle in the sky. Shimosa was DRIPPING with foreshadowing. And Salem... had only Meph foreshadowing Ritsuka's torment in Arc2. Personally, Shimosa should have been the final act.

It was their attempt at a horror story, which makes it the best story

I haven't read Salem yet but judging by the thumbnail, geez that is a weird servant lineup.

@avizvit9932

Жыл бұрын

Chaldea Staff A: "So we are infiltrating a town of 17th century Puritans, who do we use ?" Chaldea Staff B: "A robber, a prostitute, a witch, an executioner and an Asian." Chaldea Staff A: "I know they might not like non-Europeans but are you sure just being Asian will cause enough chaos ?" Chaldea Staff B: "She also has the vocabulary of an answering machine." Chaldea Staff A: "Nice."

@AusSP

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the manga covers some of the issues by having Sheba and Mata Hari put on more clothes. But, uh, yeah. FGO pretty much wants to ignore the racism angle as much as possible.

Best chapter I've seen so far with best map music

Plating through it as we speak, perfect timing

"they will now actually die when they are killed" Shirou wrote this script for you

Looking back on this, I feel like if Carter were to be a servant he'd make for the perfect "Voyager" class we never got. He, like Dantes and Musashi, could have multi-dimensional hopping powers (like Zelrich's Second Magic) and could be the perfect counter to the Shielder class should Lasengle try and add in more of them. What could've been better would be that his appearance at the end was him finally succeeding in breaking through the barrier through using magecraft and that he had been trying to do so since the beginning of the Remnant.

The concept of combining the Crucible/Salem witch trials with the Dunwich Horror/Lovecraft in this sigularity was a stroke of genius in my opinion. The execution of story itself was solid, but a little rough around the edges, especially the ending (as you mentioned). I loved the aspect of servant mortality combined with the lack of knowledge regarding who the real enemy in the singularity initially is. As a result, the characters are forced to spend the majority of this singularity holding back their growing anger and frustration with the innocent townspeople as they accuse one another (and of course your servants) of being their enemy. It's a refreshing change of pace from all the previous singularities, and even most of the lostbelts, where the citizens are just helplessly caught in the middle of the battle. Even with the finale feeling lackluster, the painful and emotional mystery leading up to that climax combined with having an innovative concept involving two completely different works of fiction that just mesh together so well, made Salem my favorite singularity in the entire game thus far. I only hope against hope that we get Lavinia as a servant someday... She deserves it.

Main reason why I remember Salem’s fight because the fight ost is such a banger

Honestly since we jump around with the anime a lot. If we ever do the Epics, this is the one I would love to see an adaptation the most cause like you said. If we cut out all the fluff fights besides maybe the intro with eldritch horrors then I think this would be a sick season of the anime to see.

I like Shimousa a ton, it felt like it was trying to be an old samurai movie (emphasis on trying) and I really like those stupid old movies

Salem was one of my favorite stories in the game.

my favorite singularity even tho the servant choices were questionable.

@KM-uh5ro

Жыл бұрын

Forreal! When I found out which servants I was with, I was like… 🤔🤔🤔 I’m screwed 🤣🤣🤣

12:17 the unlocked true name mechanic was interested at the beginning of epic remnant chapters

speaketh the words of truth

I just got legit jump scared by crash due to lack of sleep

Salem was one giant eldritch lucid fever dream.

It suprised me that we took Mash with us at all this time, considering she couldn't fight at all and her being there could have compromised the entire mission. (And no, I really like Mash, its just it doesn't make sense).

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

Mash FORCED herself on the mission. And she is one of the very few characters who is known for their insane memorization of plays and novels. They’d have to take, who? Shakespeare? Phantom?

@nurventilatoren

Жыл бұрын

@@lenleon3699 I mean, they would fit better

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@nurventilatoren they are also Famous Europeans. Shakespeare especially. Either way the point is Mash unilaterally forced herself on the team. Da Vinci even tries to make her back down at first.

PEAK FICTION THAT IS WHATS UP. BEST CHAPTER IN FGO!!!

Salem was one helluva chapter. It was creepy, the atmosphere was great, fighting Ghouls and Eldritch abominations.... The gacha thou? Not so good... But the kicker was, Salem dropped when we were moving from old house to another... and our old house was much creepier while playing through Salem.... good times.

i honestly wonder if what's happening to megaman x-dive will shepherd a movement where other games like it and fgo will find a way to come to a more widely accessible platform, cause i could see it working really as something like genshin, granted trying to make 3d models for servants that don't have them already (the arcade extella or samurai remnant would be the most likely candidates for where they'd get some of the models) but hey who knows, maybe the game has the kind of steam it needs to push through, though lord knows they have enough money to fund a project like that

Me still in Shinjuku: I see

7:37 Nonoha from magical lyrical nanoha in a nutshell(literally if you know her history)

2:26 The American singularity with those two in a nutshell

I remember fighting the three Jeans. Also King Protea carried my ass through the fights in this chapter.

man said pran lol what a hero

9:08 yeah that stare felt off putting lol

8:31 not all the time the Rate up mostly showed in important character then antagonist(if there 4 or 5 star that is for both hero and villain)

12:06 if anything they could’ve had Atalante here if you think about it

7:50 dude just wanted to brag (im envious cause i could get any of her 2 versions)

I didnt really understood the timeloop thing to turn abi into the key, and why it was complete then

2:38 Never thought about it but... you mean servants (people) die when they're killed?!

8:41 *BIRD UP*

Honestly, I would say the Ooky managed an even stronger sense of pressure than Salem, given how we wake up one day having lost everyone but 4 people in Chaldea, and know that every single one of our comrades have been turned into materials for building an enormous labyrinth. So every single one of their lives are in the hands of Kama, and boy is that scary. The Ooku is great, one of my favorite events ever

4:50 I always found funny how nero despite being such an awful person in fate go gets blamed for one of the very few things she wasn't responsible for

I love Circe

4:33 and Paris hating Achilles as well

Oh, we'll see darker theming again in LB6.

@cameraredeye3115

Жыл бұрын

And then in LB7, we get the ultimate terror...

One thing for sure the Queen of Sheba appearance in Salem was still mystery for as far I know there no event that explain the true reason why she get summon and she only one of two people I know have connections to king solomon

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

They did explain. Da Vinci was doing a summoning experiment before the Clock Tower sent their experts to close shop. In the middle of it Sheba, as in the system that monitors the data received from CHALDEAS detected Raum and his singularity. It took immediate action and it summoned the Queen of Sheba into the singularity (by using itself as the catalyst). The action itself also made Da Vinci’s experiment “fail”, unknowingly summoning Circe (likely because of the Witch Hunt association). It is a very short and brief explanation, but the game does provide it. Heck, the entire chapter begins with Da Vinci complaining of strange issues with the Sheba system, and that food resources were missing (stolen by Circe).

Honestly I did remember the wolves, but not because it was worthy of remembering. Moreso, “Why the hell are we picking a fight with wolves when our Servants are actually capable of being killed? And why these generic random wolves?”

Honestly... This is weird chapter that I am playing through rn

Salem gave us abbie so it's good!

I think they should have went with at least 5% fighting while the rest being story for Salem. I like most of the Remnants chapters with my two favorite being Shinjuku and Shimosa. Those two remnants had balance in their stories and the battles were incorporated at the right scene making the play through more smooth compared to their predecessors. Argartha and Salem suffer from to much fighting and less storytelling. Lasagna should of had the fights cut back and focused more on the story telling for those two arcs because MAN those two were a PAIN to get past and the fights were HIGHLY unnecessary when it came to a lot of avoid fighting scenes! Specifically for Salem because we aren't supposed to stand out to much and the ones for Argartha could have been avoided. I don't know if anyone made it far, so please don't read any further if you have not played LB1 (Lostbelt 1) but. In LB 1 they gave us options to either fight a big boss, or take out a wave of monsters to get to a camp the players needed to get to so they can get some help. If they did it like that for both Argartha and Salem, but a choice between fighting or no fighting, players would then have a choice to either fight for not in situations we needed a choice for.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

Just remember lasagna wasn't a thing back then Other than that i agree with you

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

I thought lb1 approach was going to be the new norm, it was great! Sadly our options for dialogues are as some memes stated a) aaaaaa or b) AAAAAA

@Doktah_Zari

Жыл бұрын

I meant to say should, don't know where would came from. 😂😥

When Mothman showed up I was excited, but then found out it was just Clown Porn and realized the true horrors of Salem.

I still want a low rarity lavinia

@desmondmalone438

Жыл бұрын

I’ll lv 90 her

@avizvit9932

Жыл бұрын

I wish they made her Abigail's Nobukatsu, kill two birds with one stone.

Loved Agartha

2:36 basically you die in the game you die in real life

8:48 Damnit now I madder they did that to her could Lavinia I could lv 100 her and gave her happy life in Chaldea with Abby and me

9:13 Jumpscare

I've been skipping chapters cause I wanted to get caught up quick so I wouldn't risk missing events, but about 3 missions in to Salem, I started actually paying attention and I didn't skip a single scene after that, cause holy hell it was a page-turner!

The only issue with Salem IMO is which Elder God they put in Abby.

@aredjayc2858

Жыл бұрын

Like Yog Sothoth as the intro Elder God is baffling

Wew you fix the mic, i though it still low that i need to high my volume

Salem was better as an event rather than part of the main story or you know... 1.5 and all that stuff

I started FGO relatively recently compared to a lot of other people, so when I started playing Salem I was just thinking to myself "Isn't this really similar to Wanda Vision?"

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

I played it right when was released in na But i would say there are some similarities now that i think of it

only thing i remember from sanson in that pseudo-singularity is being very frustrated with him

What’s up with Salem is that it was FGO’s best chapter, hands down.

@BoiwhatDahell

Жыл бұрын

Me who skipped all of the entire dialogue cuz it was boring:

@lookingforlove839

Жыл бұрын

Salem has the best atmosphere. I was incredibly drawn to the world. But i hate how rushed the ending was. Overall, story wise , Shinjuku is still better. But Salem is the more unique one Edit: I have a grailed Sanson because of Salem. He was the one character that stuck with me in this story. I didn't know why i liked him in the story. But i agree with a lot of things klidge said about him

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

By the end i felt it was rushed though Still when the conflict begins is good

So basically they got a little too inspired by Lovecraft

salem is my favourite eor chapter but man idk why after hanging chapter it feels too fastpace/rushed

I remember Salem terrifying me because of dramatic irony on my part. The fact that Abigail was on rate up made me know she had to be used for something in the story. So I looked up who she was in history to get a better picture of what maybe was going on. To my surprise shes barely even a footnote. But since I had already seen the signs of Eldrich horror on the horizon there being nothing on Abigail Williams made it more terrifying because it felt like I was reading a book with no words. There being next to no tangible information on Abigail Williams meant that anything that was happening with her came to a surprise to me. Overall still my favorite Epic of Remnant chapter.

9:15 ?

Salem worked because right out of the fate they made very clear that the servants could die nornally. This is a a very different tone from the ususal they can die against a powerful enemy and in a heroic last stand. That makes reading the story immediately intriguing. At the same time its a trick they will never pull off again. Otherwise they risky into cheapness. Unfortunately the dome setting (a soviet film and novel) was done to death from marvel to fate and cheap warner series. And rendered that apesct of the story very very boring.

Salem has to be my favorite EOR chapter and definitely 3rd most favorite chapter in all of FGO,i might have a bias bcuz i love lovecraftian,but the character arc of Sanson comes together so well,and it does Mata hari's character right,those 2 became one of my favorite characters due to Salem

I was so lost that I lost interest in the story, it's a shame . Also, I do remember another fight of Salem, the Battle against the 3 Jeanne

Salem for me is like a book that you cant put down, its so immersive that you think that you are there in Salem itself. The hangings was my favourite part of the story. It felt like a train wreck, its bad, its going to hurt, but there's nothing you can do about it. I havent felt this hopeless and miserable in an FGO story. Hopkins was so good, one of the intimidating and powerful villain in FGO despite being an ordinary human. The ending's kinda meh but i still like it. As of now, Salem is my favourite story in FGO.

@ricksanchez6766

Жыл бұрын

Weird, story felt worse as I went further into reading it, ended up just skipping a lot of it near the end. Hopkins sucked as a villain for me, didn’t like his attitude at all and it didn’t make much sense how he could do much with the human body he had.

For me Shinjoku is the most well written storie from Epic of Reminant, slightly above Shimousa. Salem try too hard to have a dark tone, but at this point the Lamus from Babylonia prety much desensitized me for everything. Seriously, those are by for the most gruesome, cruel and terrifying things FGO ever had and only sexual assault is missing for those things to become Berserk monsters.

@GarkKahn

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Yeah 7th singularity already took the prize My guess is salem tried to replicate it from a different approach but after having something so great everything else looks bad in comparison no matter how great it actually is

@mirzapramudya1580

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​@@GarkKahn true, the Lahmu invasion near the end of Babylonia was scary

I personally despise Salem. It has a plot that only works by depowering every single character and then handing them the idiot ball. Everyone is wildly out of character. And the two themes of it heavily contradict each other. The point of Lovecraft is that there are very real and unstoppable outside influences on humanity. The tragedy of Salem is that there were no supernatural elements at work just human paranoia and hate. Inserting lovecratian elements just removes the freedom of choice that makes the Salem witch trials so disturbing.

I believe Tesla was the last animation update and it was over a year ago. Also Old male Lovecraftian avatar’s, is something I gave up hope on after Van Gogh. I know no one likes a doom poster and FGO has killed multiple memes already but the foreigner class is something I see mostly as a joke. Even the Necronomicon with it’s true name, is probably gonna go to that shota in Fate/Strange Fake.

@trdl23

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Did you do Imaginary Scramble? Van Gogh’s whole deal is done *incredibly* well.

@JakeMatthews-OnLo

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@@trdl23 Yeah if the old man is summoned he’d probably kill himself, she’s a tragic and conflicting young woman. Still a young woman, still no old man, what do you want me take away from from imaginary scrambled, that they made a great BS reason to make them a awkward anime girl.

@mochii813

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Wow another fujoshit complaining about men in a waifu simulator lol 🤡

I feel like the important context here is of an RPG not a story. For those who might not know, the Call of Cthulhu TTRPG is popular in Japan. Ridiculously popular, to the extent that CoC sells more copies in Japanese than it does in English. To me, Salem reads like a campaign the author ran for his CoC group, just rewritten with FGO characters awkwardly shoehorned in. That's why most of the good things in Salem are kind of unrelated to FGO, and most of the bad things are specific to the overlap (e.g., filler fights or servants being a bad fit for a story that wanted ordinary human investigators). You didn't mention to me what was the worst part of Salem--the bungling of the stakes at the end. To me, the end result was the worst of all worlds for the Sanson character arc: Sanson getting resummoned at the end meant that there was no negative from his getting killed in Salem; him being resummoned with only his pre-Salem memories meant there was no positive character growth from going through what he did in Salem. Since I agree that Sanson was basically the MC of Salem's story arc, erasing any impact of him having been in that story seemed like an odd choice to me.

@trdl23

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This was before they had the guts to DATA LOST someone. It worked for me because without those memories, that wasn’t “my” Sanson anymore. My Sanson died on those gallows. This one is replacing him, and he’s very similar, but he is not and will never be the man who found his convictions at the end.