I said to a lady who came to my door with an elder have you all ways been a witness she said no i was methodist until 5 years ago so i said why should i trust an apostate you could be a catholic next month , the look i got was priceless

@acrawford8571

2 ай бұрын

Love it. 😂

@helenangelis4252

Ай бұрын

Very good. I pointed out to my ex husband who is still a believer about the CSA and over-ups and lies and that he buries his head in the sand. But got nowhere. He was a college lecturer so I remarked that I thought he was intelligent so shut does he allow the JW’s to control him and why can’t he use his mind to do some research? I wonder and hope I gave him something to think about, having “ sewed some seeds”!

@jumperstartful

Ай бұрын

Great Question!

Appreciate you stressing the respectful approach.

@juliechurley2716

Ай бұрын

Understand what you say but I simply can’t respect their beliefs. Their track record on SA alone is abhorrent

@trueblue9101

Ай бұрын

Yes to find common ground and be personally respectful is a base level for conversation. It doesnt mean you respect the organization

Excellent points. The best tool to make JWs think is to ask questions. If they think you are trying to "teach" something they will immediately shut down. To Lloyd's point...having these conversations isn't about YOU and your ego winning the argument, it's about THEM and helping them think honestly and objectivity about their religion.

Last time a JW knocked on my door it was a very attractive girl by herself. I saw another JW walking past and I yelled at him why are you letting her knock on doors by herself. They probably thought I was nuts.

@stephen-dev

2 ай бұрын

JW girls can indeed be very attractive. Likely due to the lack of tattoos, lack of drinking, lack of smoking, lack of doing drugs, and being very decently dressed.

@garryiglesias4074

2 ай бұрын

@@stephen-dev That stops when they open their mouth and expose the abyssal emptiness of their culture and analysis methodology... _ Hey, I've listened to this great music album, it's called Tommy, it's about an abused child who's become Deaf Dumb and Blind because he can't cope, and people are mocking him: «And Tommy doesn't know what day it is He doesn't know who Jesus was Or what praying is How can he be saved From the eternal grave?» _ WHAT? IT'S A SONG ABOUT CHRISTMAS ??? This must be a forbidden music ! (Yes, it's a real life scenario :) ).

@stephen-dev

2 ай бұрын

@@garryiglesias4074 I don't doubt it. ha ha... There appear to be two types of JWs... the die-hards who pound their indoctrination into their own heads as some kind of cult warrior, and the ones that barely pay attention and just stand there without a clue because the church tells them to.

These are pure genius. How great would it be for those of us who found a way out of this destructive cult to actually plant a seed that results in another person finding their way out because of two things - a thought provoking question and our kindness. Thank you for all you do for us, Lloyd ❤️

The man at the door who changed my mindset and started my path to freedom never knew how effective his conversation was. I defended my position but I am forever grateful to him for cracking my shell.

@hdbrot

2 ай бұрын

Do you still know where it was?

@beautyRest1

Ай бұрын

Who was the man at the door?!?

Me: "What if I decide voluntarily later that I wish to leave your religion, are there repercussions?" Thanks Lloyd for this timely video.

@ozzyd971

2 ай бұрын

If they have children, you could pose 'if I have children who decide it's not for them, would that be a problem?'

@haynehifanny8006

2 ай бұрын

@@ozzyd971 Exactly 💯

@dianneosborne8309

2 ай бұрын

My husband and I just stopped going and later moved homes. That was about 28 years ago. No one bothered me for quite some years. Never been disfellowshipped even though we left due to seeing it was just another cult. I'm now agnostic or atheist.

@juliechurley2716

Ай бұрын

@@ozzyd971Thing is they seldom admit to the truth about shunning

@trueblue9101

Ай бұрын

Youre fortunate. And a bit sneaky haha

When Lloyd Evans shows up at your door, "Come in!". When a JW is at your door, "GTFO!" Lloyd brings happiness wherever he goes; the JW's - whenever they go!

I'm a disfellowshipped apostate works well

@Katiegirlluv

2 ай бұрын

:/

@willvatcher1898

2 ай бұрын

That's a guaranteed coronary inducer

Here are some carefully crafted questions designed to gently challenge Jehovah's Witnesses and encourage them to think critically about their beliefs. These questions are respectful and intended to promote thoughtful dialogue rather than confrontation: ### Questions About Beliefs and Teachings 1. **Questioning Beliefs**: - "If I were to question my beliefs and research them thoroughly, would that be a good thing in your opinion? Why or why not?" - Follow-up: "Shouldn't we all scrutinize our beliefs to ensure they are true?" 2. **Research and Information**: - "If I wanted to learn more about your religion, should I look at only the official website or also independent sources? Why is that?" - Follow-up: "Is it wise to rely solely on information provided by the organization being investigated?" 3. **History and Prophecies**: - "Has your organization ever made predictions about the end of the world or significant events that did not come true? How does your faith account for these?" - Follow-up: "How does Deuteronomy 18:20-22, which describes identifying false prophets, relate to these failed predictions?" 4. **Exclusive Truth Claims**: - "Do you believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true followers of God? What evidence supports this belief?" - Follow-up: "How can one verify that claim objectively?" ### Questions About Doctrine and Practice 5. **Salvation and Goodness**: - "Is being a good person enough to survive Armageddon, or must one also be a baptized Jehovah's Witness? Why is that?" - Follow-up: "How do you reconcile the idea of a loving God with the belief that only Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved?" 6. **Living in the Last Days**: - "What evidence do you have that we are living in the last days as described in the Bible?" - Follow-up: "Do you think life now is objectively worse than it was 100 years ago, considering advancements in medicine, technology, and human rights?" ### Questions About Organizational Claims 7. **Authority and Changes**: - "Jehovah's Witnesses have made doctrinal changes over the years. How do you reconcile these changes with the belief that the organization is directed by God?" - Follow-up: "If God's guidance is perfect, why would there be a need for such changes?" 8. **Communication with God**: - "When did Jehovah's Witnesses start being recognized as God's channel of communication, and what evidence supports this specific timing?" - Follow-up: "Can you provide any historical or scriptural evidence that clearly shows this transition?" ### Questions About Personal Reflection 9. **Personal Doubts**: - "Have you ever had any doubts about your beliefs or teachings? How did you address them?" - Follow-up: "Do you think it's healthy to have doubts and seek answers, even if it leads to questioning the faith itself?" 10. **Outside Perspectives**: - "How do you feel about listening to the perspectives of former Jehovah's Witnesses who have left the organization? Why do you think they left?" - Follow-up: "Is there value in understanding why people leave the faith and what their experiences were?" ### Respect and Openness It's important to remember that these questions should be asked in a spirit of genuine curiosity and respect. Jehovah's Witnesses are often very sincere in their beliefs, and respectful dialogue is more likely to encourage thoughtful reflection than confrontational debate. Would you like more detailed explanations on any of these questions, or do you have other topics you'd like to explore?

@kikiroodash

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely love this. I am taking a screenshot of all of these.

@trilithon108

2 ай бұрын

Thorough list.🎉 "I know you've had many failed end time dates. What is your current date?"

I politely told them I'm an atheist and they got the message. Simple as that. They were very nice about it. Australia.

@LloydEvans

2 ай бұрын

Good for you! Concise. Polite. Goal oriented.

One time I saw witnesses with carts. I passed by smiling at them and one 'sister' offered me a watchtower publication. I took it and we had a conversation. I shosed her a picture of the elders book and asked her if she could sell me that book. She said she never saw that book before. Next to her was a man. I don't know if he was an elder. He was irritated and told me that this book was not for the public. Some weeks later I saw the same 'sister' with two other women. I told her, That meanwhile I got that book online, as pdf and showed her a page of it on my screen. She looked at it. There was mentioned comittee and I asked her what that is all about. Then she admitted to me, that this book was just for elders and other persons are not supposed to read it... but she said it in a und and polite way. I told her that I find it very interesting and will read it anyway.

What fantastic ideas. Not confrontational, thought provoking !

Lloyd, its good to hear and see you again. Thank you for this. I agree, respect is needed. They are just doing as directed. My husband said he would ask whats the deal with the beard change. 😊

An elder came to my home some weeks ago, and invited me to a meeting with the elders's body. So I decided to go after been thinking it a Lot, I don't know, maybe curiousity. They were polite, they asked me about My prívate life, never asked about My feelings. I realized that is the same product than 14 years, in a diferent box. I'm ex ministerial servant. Thanks Lloyd For your work!

A few years ago I spoke with my father an elder of some 35+ years about why I no longer believe. Among many things discussed one was the long string of failed predictions and prophecies. He admitted these were true and knew of a few. I asked him what does the bible say about those that make prophecies in gods name and those prophecies don't come true. He said he didn't know. I asked him to use his app on his own phone and look up Duet 18:20-22. He wouldn't do it. I said, you can use your bible on your phone and read what god says about false prophets, he would not do it. Imagine that, an elder not willing to look up a scripture in his own bible on his own phone. He later told me that the organization has never claimed to be a prophet. I said, that may be true but what do you call someone who is not a prophet and still makes prophecies that ultimately don't come true? That was over 3 years ago and I'm still waiting for a response on that one.

@madamecurious

Ай бұрын

They did call themselves prophets!! Watchtower April 1, 1972: in the article ‘They shall know, that a prophet was among them’ the group of International Bible Students, later Jehovah’s Witnesses, are identified as “The Prophet”. Rutherford called Charles Taze Russel “one of God’s great reformers and prophets.” (Watchtower Oct.1, 1919)

@jimmyb3158

Ай бұрын

@@madamecurious I found out about these articles after my conversation with my dad. It doesnt matter though because they know that anyone that is not a claim to be a prophet and still makes prophecies are still a false prophet.

‘Why does Jehovah need a witness instead of speaking directly for himself? ‘

I have been following you for years. It is good to see you are getting back your Mojo

For a while I was sad you stopped for various reasons generating a flood of vids reacting to each move of JWorg. Since than, I see you vids, even fewer, are still growing in quality on the matter. Thank you Lloyd.

* If the Bible is the inspired word of God, why does your organization change its interpretation so often? * Why does the Watchtower discourage independent research and critical thinking about your doctrines? * How can you be sure that your organization is the only true religion when there are so many other sincere believers in the world? * Why did Jesus say that he didn't know the time of the end, yet your organization has repeatedly predicted it? * If salvation is only through your organization, what happens to all the good people who lived and died before the Watchtower was founded?

I heard 'entering into a discussion with Jehovah's Witnesses' as "something that sounded like a good idea at the time"!

Nice to see you back

I teach their kids, I work in education. I became aquaintences. They've had me over for dinner + I've talked to them a lot about the Bible (I'm a Christian). So I just try to show love + patience and sow seeds of inquiry

@Katiegirlluv

2 ай бұрын

got to the point where you said all JW will survive Armageddon but not other Christians. Well they told their kids I would survive! 👀

@Eric_01

2 ай бұрын

Sadly, they think they have you on a hook. That's the ONLY reason you're allowed in their house.

@poon

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Eric_01 This is the sad truth. They use those opportunities to lure you into the religion. It's dishonest.

@Katiegirlluv

2 ай бұрын

@@Eric_01 I can't control how they think but I can control myself thank you very much

@Katiegirlluv

2 ай бұрын

@@poon I enjoy their company and I can show them that not all Christians are evil. Clearly we have developed trust enough with me teaching their children that we have some camaraderie and regardless of their motivations, I also have my own motivations and they're not nefarious but these Jehovah witnesses are not stronger spiritually than me

I had JWs come to my door about 10 years ago. They had a really nice brochure that they wanted to leave with me that told me about the nice Paradise that God promised humankind after Armageddon. I asked the brother if there would be any large polluting factories in this new Paradise. He firmly stated that God would do away with all the large polluting factories. I then looked at the picture of Paradise and asked the brother where all the plastic lawn furniture in the picture had come from. I had never seen a JW's brain plummet toward the ground and explode into flames before that point. He left my property absolutely frustrated in defeat.

@Eric_01

2 ай бұрын

That's easy. It came with the nice house that they just took over after the owners were fireballed. That used to be a game we'd play while going door-to-door, we'd lay claim to all of the nice houses we intended on taking.

@classicalgasemission

2 ай бұрын

@@Eric_01 Well yeah, but they're not gonna tell the householder "all your stuff are belong to us after armageddon"

excellent. recently two sisters asked me if id go back,i said no its a cult ,the watchtower..and im what youd call an apostate. the sister said i never thought id ever hear you say that ,i said i really care about all you bro and sis but ive studied done research,,ill never come back...

I actually had some come to my house last week, on a Thursday morning , which I found odd . I am so educated on this cult now, had I not been working , I wanted to bad to answer the door and warn them . I know they would have become frightened and run off quickly . 😕 I just feel so bad for them . Thanks for another video Lloyd ❤

Say to any JW if you can give me a reasonable explanation for the JW two witnesses rule then I’ll study with you! Watch their body language close down as they can’t find an answer to your question and you wave goodbye!

@ascotinva

2 ай бұрын

They seem to have forgotten that under the Mosaic Law rape did not require two witnesses.

@Eric_01

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, they're just going to throw Deut. 19:15 at it. That it's old testament doesn't matter, just like it doesn't with nearly all xtian beliefs. So, I guess you're gonna study with them.

@ascotinva

2 ай бұрын

@@Eric_01 JWs can say what they like but a lot of their doctrine is based on the old testament. Holidays, birthdays, 1914, times of the gentiles, etc, etc

@jerrychacon8814

2 ай бұрын

Cult? Who was the first witness? REVELATION 1:5; 3:14 COLOSSIANS 1:18

@Eric_01

2 ай бұрын

@@ascotinva The birthday and holidays doctrines are made up though. Not biblical. They got 1914 wrong and retracted their original prophecy. It's not a good record.

A timely and informed video for me. Thank you, sir.

You make my day just showing up... I published my story after leaving which includes tips for witnessing to the witnesses. Amazing job, you did!

There were several days when my mom came home from the ministry recounting interactions that had shaken her, and that stayed with her. It still took her close to a decade to leave after the first wake-up interactions, but when she did leave, she was done for good- the elders couldn't get her to answer the phone or open the door if they tried all day or night.

Since collecting older WT publications off of eBay, etc, I love showing JWs things directly from them such as the May15-1984 Watchtower cover or the pyramid diagrams in Divine Plan of the Ages, or the Beth-Sarim and Millions Now Living…, the pre ‘75 stuff, etc. Some will obstinately try to defend or deflect, but it’s the seed of getting them to think. 💥💡Neu Light 💡💥

@madamecurious

Ай бұрын

I love that approach!! It worked on me, so I also purchased some Russell/Rutherford books to show to JWs ❤ 😊

Very important and valuable material. Thanks Lloyd!

"A great crowd, which no man was able to number", always came to mind when hearing about their number of members.

Thank you Lloyd for keeping this in compassion. The only people that I may not be able to not be combative with are the Governing body members.

very powerful smart and empathetic

Great suggestions! Thank you!

Such good points/suggestions you make regarding what sort of questions to ask to "sow seeds" Lloyd. Thank you 😊

I was talking to my sister about this subject last week and she told me that she says “well, my mother is a jw and she’s never been able to recruit me so I doubt you’ll be able to!” I thought it was genius. I get my daughter to answer the door when they call as I know I would just lay into them > I was dragged up in this vile cult as a child and I still hold it against them now and I’m 52 years old! They took away my childhood. I’ve had therapy and I still have anger about this cult and my jw believing mother

@shellycohen5123

2 ай бұрын

Me, too, and I'm 58!

@karenwestberg5838

Ай бұрын

I’m so sorry! I have JW family members, and I just try to keep in mind that they were duped and not to hold anything against them.

@beautybev

Ай бұрын

@@karenwestberg5838 I totally understand but my mother isn’t a good person and hides behind this so called religion, Christian she is not!

I've taken notes on all your suggestions, they were brilliant. Now I know what to say when confronted with a Jehovah Witness. ❤

Good discussion, but my question is what is a good person, because we all have good and bad in us, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, so there is no totally good person, so is not just about being a good person, it's about believing and having faith in Christ, believing Christ walked the earth, and died for our sins, which means loving God, and your neighbors as yourself, but not about being in a organization, I'm in no organization, but still believe in the father, son, and holy Spirit.

Hi Mr. Loyd and everyone,I hope you are all doing great.Thank you Loyd for the nice job of educating us and your hard work, be blessed.

Great video Loyd, found in the past that family jw members will tell white lies to me and when held to the point would try to brush it off with we are all imperfect and like you stated squirm or maneuver away from the point I was making. Then go into "I'll punish you mode" by a soft shunning or stewing angrily. But great video with awesome advice.

Hello Lloyd, I thought of an additional question that could be included in the 1st scenario to plant additional seeds. That question is, "If I am forced to lie on behalf of my religion, would that be a sign of my religion not being true?" or something like that. Basically, the thrust of this question is to plant the seed that having to lie for the organization does not lend itself to being a "true" religion.

This is GOLD!! ...some of your best content right here! I often come across them doing 'cart work' and am always impelled to go 'have a chat'... but on giving that a moments thought, I usually don't under the burden of knowing it's futility. These are great ideas to facilitate engagement & sow the first seeds of doubt... or potentially water existing ones!

I removed my comment. I apologize to anybody who read it. Although a true account of how I reacted during my last house call and why I responded that way, it was not appropriate for this forum or discussion.

@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan

2 ай бұрын

Respect for your apology

@Eric_01

2 ай бұрын

Well, now I just want to know what you first said!! This is bullsh!t!

I would ask them why they call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses. They should cite Isaiah 43 v 10. I would ask them to show me. If they do I would ask when this was written and why they think it was addressed to them. There are a number of follow up questions I would ask, depending on their response.

@trueblue9101

Ай бұрын

Where do you expect that to lead?

Best and most useful video I've seen in a good while. Thank you

Very well structured Lloyd, I couldn't help my grin escalating into soft laughter because I'm thinking that you were schooled very well by them😂😂. That prep before field service. I don't mean the latter in an offensive way because I happen to be in tge same boat as you when I use the scripture interpretation in reverse to my JW family members. I'm just happy I never got to baptism, otherwise I would not have been allowed to exchange scripture interpretation with them. 😂😂 About two year's ago I was told jokingly by one of my cousin's "I think we must shun you anyway since you know more about the truth then most". Fortunately the shunning rule has changed. Sometimes I can't help to think that because we humans are so complex that some churches and cult'ures befit our psychological profiles. Tell you why; if you allow vengeance to grow in your heart but don't have the stomach to repay evil with evil you keep hopping for the day that your god would do the repayment. Sorry I have so much on my mind and I jump from topic to topic on everything JW.

Thank you Lloyd. This is some quality advice that can help exJW's and JW's. I still prefer you over other youtubers even though you have less content. What I like is that you have are concise and you do not ramble on about irrelavent stuff. You don't waste time, the most precious thing we have.

This presentation is so compassionate and well thought out. You are an excellent teacher, Lloyd!!

Got invited to the convention by a friend and didn’t really know how to decline so I said I would check my calendar.

I believe this presentation is one of you best. Lots of food for thought in this. Really good thought provoking questions. I hope I can remember all of this for when they come knocking the next time. I always ask them why they continue to adhere to a religion that has a long history of proven false prophecies and refuse to follow the biblical teaching on false prophecies. They never give an answer but just quickly leave.

A wonderful video Lloyd, certainly one of your best. Your suggestions, insights and thoughtfulness are much appreciated.

The last time I spoke with a JW I asked her why Caleb from the Caleb and Sophia cartoon couldn't have the cupcake. She replied that many JW parents allow their children to attend birthday parties. I then asked why the cartoon didn't show that. Why don't we see Caleb attending the birthday parties of his classmates? The JW lady didn't like that question at all.

My recent reply to JWs at my door saying they wanted to “share the love of God with me” was, politely, “I respect you as individuals, but I have no respect at all for any religion. I was in it for decades but now I’m done with it.” They gave me a polite farewell and went on their way. I do see them as victims, so I don’t want to treat them as adversaries.

Good advice and ideas, Lloyd. I am happy that I asked the congregation secretary to put me down as a do not call and to never be contacted again by JW's. I am enjoying the silence 🤭

I can't wait your next video!😊 love from Japan❤

I wish I had watch this great video before my teacher, a JW elder, shunned me while I was a sincere non baptized JW student with bible reading privilegy at the platform, so that I could have make these specific questions to him when they (an old couple with some decades as JWs) were open to random questions at the end of our weekly study. I was a JW student for a bit more than 3 years until I decided to stop attending all meetings, and to block at WhatsApp all JW contacts at once. I took this decision firmly at New Year's Eve 2022. Greetings from Ecuador Lloyd!

I spoke to two JWs on the cart recently and asked, “Can a man serve more than one Master?” The answer is obviously ‘no’ but when I asked them, “who do you serve?”, one said Jehovah and the other said Jesus, both at the same time. I said, “I believe you are both correct in your answers,” and left them to it.

Fantastic Reasoning Lloyd Thank you for all your work If i think of any lines of reasoning ill let you know

Where I live, it has always been 1 year for the Do Not Call List--and then the elders go round and check again.

@SlyPearTree

2 ай бұрын

That seems worthless, I don't think I ever had JW visit two years in a row, I never took notes of when they visit but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the area of every 5 years for JW and about 20 years for Mormons. I think I would be less polite if it was more frequent, well me in the past before learning the consequences they'll suffer if they don't obey their cult leaders.

@berniereay4055

2 ай бұрын

Where I live I haven't seen at Jehovah Witness been over 3 years

@jason.B182

2 ай бұрын

I was the territory assistant for many years and no one ever requested the DNC list to do visits 😂

@mlove.1376

2 ай бұрын

​@@berniereay4055 perhaps because of Covid?

@SaffronHammer

2 ай бұрын

@@jason.B182 lucky you! In our hall the elders absolutely called at the house on the DNC list, saying perhaps they had moved or they had a change of heart. And as an exJW, I have myself (in an area I was not known by them), told them to Not Call Back, and I was told they put me on a list that was good for a year, at which point they would return to see if I still felt the same way. They are freaking zombies for Watchtower.

After the ARC the WT put it in print. The Feb 2017 study edition ‘Who is leading god’s people today?’ Par 12. Its a nice recent reference to offer them at the door.

So pleased to see Lloyd back in action . I have been wondering how best to approach JWs , I do tend to lose it a bit when we touch on the topic of curation/ evolution. The calm non confrontational way is obviously a good approach. The JWs that have stands on street corners tend not to like entering into a dialogue , they are just standing around chatting and seem to slightly resent being disturbed! They just refer you to ‘the website’ or just state if you don’t want to listen to us just go away. The ones that know on your door can’t use that approach.

I’m going to ask my daughter if she thinks that I deserve to die when “Armageddon” happens even though i didn’t change my lifestyle or moral behavior since i left the cult. Good one Lloyd !!

In the late '90s on a Sat morning I was still in my underwear and heard what I thought was my wife (she was gardening) knocking on the door. It was two JW women who took one look at me and hurried away. I found the solution 😅

Fantastic video once again, Lloyd!! Definitely the best compilation of rationales for a polite but questioning dialogue. And those are usable also outside the JW realm.

@22:03 my mom will right out make up crazy stuff on the fly just to make herself sound right. One time i said well let’s not go past the scriptures and she got agitated.

Very informative Lloyd. Very good info to have as well for PIMOs. Thank you Lloyd. 😊

😂😂 This gives me an idea Mr. Evans if by some chance the EXJW meetup is scheduled for this weekend and I see a cart, I'll try the "let me Google your religion". Of course I'll be out of my area (still pimo and others in my local area are acquainted with me). It would be interesting to see how they react.

Hey, Lloyd, I liked these questions and they would certainly plant that seed, it seems to me, if the person is already in the org. A friend at work that uses Uber has said that her Uber driver won't shut up about how great being a JW is...while simultaneously offering her edibles, if you know what I mean. It turns out the Uber driver isn't baptized yet, but is just studying. She's completely eaten up with it, and has made statements about certain things she enjoys now, knowing she's about to have to give them up. Anyway, my suggestion or question is what a good line of questioning would be to plant that seed in a person that isn't fully committed yet, but seriously contemplating it.

I find 'Fuck off!" works well.

@dantevlogs9568

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Theslavedrivers

2 ай бұрын

You may be strengthening their resolve, by doing that.

@maltesetony9030

2 ай бұрын

@@Theslavedrivers I don't care. Life is too short to waste it on drongos.

@ciaran82359

2 ай бұрын

lol 😂

@Katiegirlluv

2 ай бұрын

Which will just reinforce their persecution complex

Excellent video! Thank you, Lloyd!

These are brilliant! 😊

Great video, good to see your back at it. And good food for thought.

I remember when a relative invited me to a meeting for the 10th time and we got into a little bit of a row about it I said "I guess Jehovah will just have to kill me in armageddon! You are okay with that?" She didn't really know what to say! We've never argued about it again.

I just don’t answer the door… for anyone. I don’t care if it’s JWs, Mormons, sales people, political activists etc. My time and safety is precious to me. Just keep the door locked and ignore everyone, problem solved (Publishers Clearing House is my one exception 😀).

My friend in, who still talks to me, says the organization continually say they are fallible and brought out that the light gets brighter at the end and that wouldn't be unless there were misunderstandings done throughout time. I would like a rebuttle to that because I don't know what to say to him.And he does listen to me and I know he is miserable.

Absolutely brilliant video. Lloyd. One of your best ever!

If you realy want them to go away & leave you alone tell them you are an unrepentant dissasociated apostate. They will run in terror & never return.

Very Clever Lloyd, I'm Definately Gonna use this tactic.

1st ask them who Charles taze Russell is…. Most don’t even know

Great suggestions! I especially like the one about whether JWs might think Catholics have the right to question their religion while JWs are not ‘allowed’ to question their religion. Good point! I like the way you advised showing JWs respect. It’s not their fault that they got lured into and duped by the Watchtower’

@karenwestberg5838

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Duped, deluded, indoctrinated, groomed, and conditioned by the insidious, devious, callous Watchtower organization!

Possibly your best video to date, Lloyd. So so so profound.

Keep them coming,Miss your rebuttals,theres many good rebuttal info, broadcast and jesus movie id like to hear your thoughts

There are lots of people with deeply held beliefs who are good people. It has always been a mystery to me how they can believe most people are going to Hell and at the same time be happy normal people.

Can they think logically? No... Good points made, Lloyd. I'll look forward to using some of these points.

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Also, so decent of you to ask to be respectful of them. I have a hard time because I know that my ex, for one is pompous. I think a lot of them are and I will remember how you stressed to be respectful. I really have to work on that. You're an intelligent man ❤️

Amazing how you use the power of empathy and compassion to truly reach out to someone stuck in a high control group. I will take your advice and engage in a conversation with my JW in-laws. Many Thanks 🙏

Also with grace and tact, take opportunity to ask a child simple questions when they come knocking on your door with their JW parent. I’ll never forget when a lady randomly asked me “Why wouldn’t you want to celebrate your birthday?” And in my mind, as a little 10 year old I was about to tell her “Well you need to look at the origins of things” but instead I thought how stupid that response was and told her nothing and kept silent! 😆 Am grateful for that lady.

I treat them the way they treat me…I act like they don’t exist. If I’m invisible then so are they.

Should have had these questions written on the screen each time you say them. Maybe make a short for it, which can easily be "summoned for help" anywhere at anytime?

Good questions, but I think those will mainly work on someone who is already halfway out or have been neglected social wise within the congregation. They are taught to hate what Jehovah hates. So even if you are polite you are just a nice worldly person who will die because you don't love/serve Jehovah.

its amazing how they lie....right to your face!!

You could always ask them to expand their ideas of Armageddon and the deaths of billions of people. And then ask them how that squares with Gods' commandment of "Thou shall not kill"(KJV Exodus 2)

Really enjoyed this episode and would love some further suggestions in the same vein. Thank you 🙏

I live in New Zealand and I think the Jehovah's witnesses have stopped door knocking here .

JW often claimed to me when i was bible student that relationships among people themselves (not international relationships, but personal relationships among people) are worsening and that they are worse than 100 - 200 years ago. Can you maybe give me some proofs that also relationships between people themselves are not worse now than they used to be 200 years ago?

I have something to add to them if they do lie and say that every prophecy has come true, I would add what you'd said earlier, "Wow, that's really impressive, I'm gonna research that on Google later tonight, just to make sure..."

I know you! We were friends as teens. You’re looking well mate.

I say goodbye and close the door.

As an 3rd gen who left as soon as I was old enough at 16 I tried multiple methods, but I now just say Not Interested and close the door as I can’t deal with them!