A lot of published ammo velocity ratings are like a lot of flashlight lumen ratings. They tell you a torch has a 1,000 lumen LED module in it because when they hooked that module up to a TRUCK BATTERY in the lab it briefly achieved a peak lumen output of 950 lumens...and then it burned itself out. That, they round up and call a 1,000 lumen module. NM the fact that you will never use a truck battery for your flashlight. NM that they are marketing that module for use in a flashlight shell that only houses AAA batteries. NM that you buy a commercial tool with the expectation that it will serve you for more than a few seconds.

Best video ever on the subject! Thank you!

@HabeasJ

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thank you for watching

one more question, some people reported feed issues with the 220's vs the 200's in their 10mm's. Not sure if the SA XDM is built different but those others said the 200gr's fed better due to the smaller flat head of the bullet. have you ever tried 200’s in the XM?

I like 10mm, it penetrates deeply due to a decent BC. I also load those Acme 200gr and they feed beautifully in my Glock. I want to try a hard cast with a wider meplat but am concerned about feed issues.

@HabeasJ

4 жыл бұрын

I like the acme bullet because of the coating. It wont hurt polygonal rifling in glocks and it keeps the smoke down a lot more than non-coated hard cast. Unfortunately their customer service isnt the best lol . Im worried about feeding issues with flatter bullets as well. I understand that the flatter the bullet, the better it'll penetrate. But the problem is most of those flatter "bear bullets" have traditional been fired out of revolves where feeding isnt a concern. . Id assume the flatter the bullet, the more feeding problems you run into in semi auto. And that feeding issue may only happen every 100 rounds or so, but whos to say that 1 in 100 doesn't happen when you're getting charged? Thats why I harp so much about testing your defensive ammo before you carry it

Excellent insightful important discussion! Spot on truthfully well said information. Yes I concour with your statement. Flat Nose Bullets either made of Hard Cast Lead or Sold Metal like Copper Flat Nose Bullets or even jacketed rounds are the most effective choice for putting down dangerous apex predatorial beasts like Bears, Wild Boars, Moose, Elk, Crocodillans. 10mm, can be an a excellent, effective proven caliber pistol round For putting down dangerous game like Bears and Wild Boars. I am the inventor of a RFN speciality bullet series that I designed to effectively stop, put down apex predatorial beasts like; Wild Boar and Bears, mainly antique style Black Powder cap&ball percussion revolvers. With a stout powder loads and my harder cast lead Universal RFN Bullets one can effectively defend themselves or hunt and harvest dangerous apex predatorial beasts and bring yourself safely home. The "Key" mittagating factors to put down a; Bear or Wild Boar, Felines and Herbivores; Moose, Wapati ( Elk) etc. With Handgun bullets in Handguns is; Usually if you can stop, kill a Wild Boar/ Hog with a Flat Nose Handgun round you should be good to go for taking down a Bear. However, Firstly, you must establish beyond a doupt with your 9mm etc pistol manufacturer, and or a competent Gunsmith; that you can safely fire these hotter 9mm+P etc hotter rounds in your said individual model type of 9mm pistol with those hotter + P rounds. Secondly; is that the bullets be of made of a hard metal either Hand cast Lead or Solid Copper. Thirdly; the bullet's should be of a;"Flat Nose" "Truncated" cylindrical design. The heavier weight of bullets the better. Reason being is that Flat Nose Bullets, are designed to have a strait trajectory path and penetraite deep into Skin, Fat and Bone teaching vital organs Fourthly; the shell casing should be loaded with a substantial load of hot stout powder. Fifthly; You; the Defender needs to be knowledgeable of where the Vital Organs and Spinal Areas to aim for are on the said dangerous beasts. Several reputable ammunition Companies make such speciality loaded ammunition. Amongst such in the 9mm etc caliber are; Underwood Ammunition offers their noted Hard Cast 147 grain Flat Nose Truncated + P rounds that are specially coated to be fired out of Glock gen 1 to 4 standard barrels. Are currently on sale as writing this comment. As well as the, Bufallo Bore brand with their, 147 + P Outdoorsman and Choice Ammunition's, 148 + P version claimed to produce the most impact of, 515 Foot Ponds of Energy.

Insightful video..... 10 MM - high cap, fast shooting platform might be preferred over 5, 6 or 7 round platform even at higher fpe.... I also read a Canadian guide suggested shooting from a knee so you don't shoot over the back of a charging bear. His logic, kneeling puts on the same plane as your target. Shooting from a standing position, you may shoot over the back of a 30 mph charging bear... And running isn't gonna save you in most woodland encounters. I can't say this is sound advise but it did make sense to me as I think it would be easy to not lead your target properly in a high stress situation. I guess that's up for debate? Have you even used a Taylor KO calculator (big game hunter John “Pondoro” Taylor) to compare the potential of a non-expanding projectiles. It at least gives the user a method of scoring/compairing ballistic performance that isn't totally subjective to the user. Here's the link I use: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXl-2dp9idXagLQ.html

@HabeasJ

Жыл бұрын

I've known some people who drop to a kneeling position to train for a bear attack. I can understand the reasoning to a certain extent but like you said it's up for debate. The set of circumstances that lead to you and a bear standing on level flat ground (similar to a range) where he's beelining right at you *might* be possible, but what's more likely is spooking the post-hibernation berry picker in tall brush, or a sow with cubs on a blind corner. In other words, training to drop to a knee may be helpful in one possible encounter, but would severely hinder you in almost all others where dynamic movement (moving out of the way, behind a tree, etc) is necessary. And to be totally honest bears don't worry me all that much. Even being around griz, I'm way more worried about a moose getting pissed since they have absolutely no fear of humans. I just used "bear defense" in the title because I figured it sounded best. . I have heard of TKO and while I'm no against it totally, I do question the viability somewhat. I understand the idea that ft-lbs isn't the only thing you need to worry about when it comes to penetration, but TKO leaves much to be desired IMO as well. For example, a 220gr 45 going 1000fps has 488ft-lbs of energy, 31799.63lb-ft/s of momentum, but a TKO score or 14, the same score as my 200gr 10mm (40 cal) going 1256fps, generating 700ft-lbs of energy and 43945.68lb-ft/s of momentum. Now how does that make sense? How does the the extra .05" and 20 grains make up for the lack of energy and/ or momentum? To a certain extent I understand the necessity of TKO when comparing heavy, slow, fat rounds to light, fast, skinny rounds, but those two types of guns are used in two wildly different applications. I had someone justify TKO by comparing a 22-250 to a 45/70 because they make about the same amount of energy (ft-lbs). But why would I every be comparing those two cartridges? Maybe if I'm a brand new shooter who doesn't know much, but even that's being pretty charitable. . With its history in African big game the TKO begins to make more sense. Having to explain to the person you're guiding that his deer gun won't drop a cape buffalo in an easy way would be useful, but its viability as a scientific tool for calculating energy is questionable at best IMO. . Thanka for watching

@motorgearhead

Жыл бұрын

@@HabeasJ - I think the TKO focuses on ability to penetrate thick bone & hide. This seems to be the preference towards heavy larger diameter projectiles vs smaller lighter as you mentioned. As with any tool you have to determine what information is relevant to your situation.

Hey Pal, great video. I bought the S.A. 10mm 4.5 and got the 22# spring you advised. I also got the same flashlight and tungsten rod to reduce recoil as the recoil on your last video at 1250FPS seemed to be a handful for you too. lol. 3 questions. 1. What bullet would you recommend for bear/ big game defense between a 220Gr 1200fps or a 200Gr. at 1250fps? Both deliver roughly 700 ft.lbs. 2. which would have less recoil? I need to have the follow up shots on target or I might as well carry a 12 gauge. I have a credit at Underwood ammo and I want to get a couple of boxes for carry in the woods. 3. They also make a XTP bonded 200gr. hollow point, would you stagger those in with the hardcast every other round? Thanks so much and keep the videos coming!!!

@HabeasJ

4 жыл бұрын

Id go with the 220gr because of the concept of carrying energy I discussed. Recoil wise they'll be pretty much identical since the energy is the same; Newton's third law and whatnot. When I do chrono testing, I limp wrist the gun to prevent any possible jerking, which would probably turn my chronograph into a paperweight. These rounds are not too much more powerful than my target ammo, so they're pretty damn easy to manage. . And for your third question, if you're concerned about a charging bear, moose, or cougar, the hollow point wouldn't perform any better than hard cast and may perform worse. Like I said, hollow points are designed to deform whereas hard cast is meant to retain its shape. . Hollow points are meant to stop an attacker by expanding inside the body, causing permanent and temporary stretching and tearing which leads to faster incapacitation. If an animals charging you, you don't have the luxury of aiming at its boiler room. And when a headshot is your only option, hard cast will alway do better at breaking that skull plate than hollow points

@HabeasJ

4 жыл бұрын

I will mention as a side note, the XTPs are great for two legged predators. The gel tests look great. I everyday carry this gun with 180gr gold dots I loaded up. Both the gold dots and XTPs seem to love 10mm and either would be devastating with the right load. The gel tests I've seen for those bullets in the caliber are top notch, again, with the right loading of course

@hidaven

4 жыл бұрын

@@HabeasJ great advice. thanks for sharing your thinking and history.

@HabeasJ

4 жыл бұрын

@@hidaven always happy to help!

@hidaven

4 жыл бұрын

@@HabeasJ one more question, some people reported feed issues with the 220's vs the 200's in their 10mm's. Not sure if the SA XDM is built different but those others said the 200gr's fed better due to the smaller flat head of the bullet. have you ever tried 220's in the XDM?

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@HabeasJ

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

one more question, some people reported feed issues with the 220's vs the 200's in their 10mm's. Not sure if the SA XDM is built different but those others said the 200gr's fed better due to the smaller flat head of the bullet. have you ever tried 220's in the XDM?

@HabeasJ

7 ай бұрын

Never tried 220s