Very intrigued by these "true ghouls" how does their society work. Would love to hear more.

@IdiotinGlans

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend the campaign the Empire of Ghouls from Midgard Campaign Setting

@strawberrylotlizard

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the necropolitan. They're people who gave up life in a ritual to become undead with all their memories and skills and they have cities

@LoreFoundry

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I support this video idea

@bayoubilly5176

2 жыл бұрын

Also there's some novels about Thay and Rashemen which are amazing for undead content(main character aoth and his Griffin riders)(on edit damn auto carrot always turns Thay into that... Gotta proofread heh).

@Muykle

2 жыл бұрын

it is the underdark, so slavery is likely involved.

Slight correction: I'm pretty sure zombies and skeletons don't collapse in anti-magic fields. They at least didn't in 3.5e. They were like golems, created by magic, but the process animating them is a closed loop. Further evidence is the spells that create them usually have a duration of instantaneous.

@evannibbe9375

2 жыл бұрын

Right, I am guessing that the Antimagic field just means the necromancer can no longer give additional commands to those undead while they are in it.

@maudley

2 жыл бұрын

@@evannibbe9375 yeah, that and supernatural abilities won't work. Even incorporeal undead aren't destroyed, they just blink out of existence

@alchemysaga3745

2 жыл бұрын

Hence why he said they *should* collapse.

@maudley

2 жыл бұрын

@@alchemysaga3745 I mean I guess, but they've worldbuilt around it, and that's good enough for me

I was going to make the long campaign I'm running be ghoul-focused, with Doresain as the bbeg. But as I worked on it last summer my idea felt more and more similar to the pandemic (a spreading illness, people refusing to leave their houses, villages locking out strangers, etc) and dnd was supposed to be our escape. So I put that campaign away and made a different one. Still want to run it someday.

@bayoubilly5176

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea on both counts. Shelve it but definitely use it. Sounds great

@MatthewSmith-pv6gd

2 жыл бұрын

A similar enough thing happened to me, though not with a whole campaign. Before the campaign I was working on an isolated village that I trying to have a strange custom the party has to deal with. I decided on it was considered rude not to cover a part of the body normally not considered unusual to show. At first I was going to have it be a requirement of wearing hats, but then had the idea that maybe instead they should always keep their faces covered in some way. I thought it would be interesting, because it would make insight checks more difficult, but when the pandemic started I felt it seemed to correlative with the mask wearing that has become common place, though an ancient plague could give a nice backstory for why the behavior started and became part of their culture.

@biblebot3947

2 жыл бұрын

Wdym? People often times refuse to stay in there homes. Having massive protests against the quarantine

@bendystrawz2832

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I would say just run it. It might feel good to be able to literally punch a virus in the face as a player!

@Dazecat11

2 жыл бұрын

With some Adjustments it still can be fun. Maybe keep the pandemic level of the ghoul infection. Maybe even a small snippets when it comes to patient zero or the first Ghoul to trigger said event. Set up Doresain as the obvious villain in that, but during the first confrontation and maybe the first fight against him, it becomes clear that he has no clue either what the meaning behind all of it is. Maybe the Ghouls themself react different. Maybe someone else tries to create a total army that overruns the world turning everyone into ghouls only to let the normal ones die out after a while and those special ones stay behind. The whole idea you have is nice to be honest. And with some perfect plot hooks, some dead ends and red-herrings and you could have an fun story at your hand.

Seeing as undead don't need to breathe, one can assume a lacedon is, in fact, just a regular ghoul who lives underwater.

My character didn’t want to kill her ghouls she’s good. So she released them outside of town…my DM just informed me he did not forget that. I haven’t been back to my hometown in a few weeks, in game. Whoopsy X.X

@theyondant6088

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, maybe your DM means that those Ghouls remember you as the one who let them live, and they will be willing to help you with a new problem! That or you're going home to a Graveyard, I'd say about 50/50.

@Kuithehybrid

2 жыл бұрын

A good necromancer? I thought I was the only one

@brettonalwood4173

2 жыл бұрын

@@theyondant6088 Why not both!? An abandoned graveyard that resembles a village and as you walk through the old ruined gate you see a deathly pale boy who greets, cracking some horrible pun like "Follow me. Don't worry I won't bite". Then they escort you into the epicenter of the town where the mayor's daughter greets you. Saying thanks for the meal and asks if you have any other good shopping locations for a carnivore.

@ThortackNezzerack

2 жыл бұрын

"Your DM will remember that."

@johngleeman8347

2 жыл бұрын

That character must have to do a lot of good deeds to balance out the creation of powerful undead.

Ghouls are honestly a lot more interesting than what I thought they were. They just seemed like something you'd throw into a dungeon to add a bit of danger for the players.

Well that would be a cool addition to my world. A nomadic society of ghouls that attack small towns and villages, leaving them desolated before disappearing into the night. But if you come offering corpses, they have valueable information to tell. After all, many of them have lived for a remarkably long time. perhaps there is something within that mind that could be of use to you?

These creatures are a real pain for low level adventurers, and should be ! I've used high leveled ghouls as lieutenants for a villain, it worked well. On another board, I didn't know their ties with the Abyss, thanks for the info ! Good work

@bayoubilly5176

2 жыл бұрын

It's new that's why 😉

@Voldrim359

2 жыл бұрын

Almost every undead are tied to the abyss... Why? Because is against the balance of life and death

@maitrecorbeau_gm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voldrim359 I would have link it to the Négative Plan instead of the abyss

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

ghouls (the mindless ones) and the occasion not so farial ghast are low lvl pains in the ass, but as you go up in lvl so do does the numbers of ghoals and the intelagiance of ghasts

@justnoob8141

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voldrim359 no, because Orcus live there

Looks like True Ghouls were inspired by Lovecraft's version of ghouls (which probably inspired the ghouls from Fallout too).

@cyborgcatrj6794

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta go the extra mile and make a ghoul named Pickman who paints beautifully graphic depictions of ghoul feasts.

I had a mental block trying to find my undead kingdom for my world. I just love them so much. The existence of true ghouls made that click. I Never knew they existed. True ghoul Elf knights living has immortal nobles, enslaving the human populace, sound so perfect to me. Thanks for the perfect timing of theses.

@Harrowed2TheMind

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've been wondering what creature to use for a regular intelligent humanoid undead community and that fits the bill alright!

@bayoubilly5176

2 жыл бұрын

@@Harrowed2TheMind wights with an intelligence boost are a good one too.

In the world of D&D I think trying to live a peaceful life free of trouble would be the most challenging quest of all

A sealed necropolis with only a high entrance sounds like a great way to deal with the dead, no more graveyards for necromancers, no space filled with bodies. Just recycling

Aquatic ghouls/lacdeon actually do feature in 5e! They appear in Tales from the Yawning Portal and Princes of the Apocalypse

@mylesdrake2949

2 жыл бұрын

Was about to say could of swore they were in PotA at the first stronghold of the water cultists.

Imagine a group in an extreme survival situation, like the crash that inspired the movie Alive, but D&D. When it comes time to debate whether to eat the dead, many in the group believe that cannibalism will turn you into a ghoul. Could be a great RP moment.

Yay more undead,would you consider doing the wight

@andrewtully3622

2 жыл бұрын

It'd be the wight thing to do

@ralfskrauze7225

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, those are just dead wight

@ogedeh

2 жыл бұрын

Wight power

@Harrowed2TheMind

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea! Guess we'll just have to wight for it.

@bayoubilly5176

2 жыл бұрын

These puns are bad enough to wake the dead!(good job everyone)

I've always used Ghouls and Vampires side by side as they're very complimentary and make for naturally good allies. Vampires only require the blood of a victim while Ghouls crave the flesh, this just naturally works out as they don't need to compete. A Vampire drinks the blood and gives the cast off flesh to the Ghouls, also by the Ghouls devouring the flesh of the victim this also keeps the numbers of unwanted Vampire spawn in check, this helps to limit the numbers of both undead helping them to stay hidden from unwanted attention. The Ghouls also benefit from the strength and cunning of the much more powerful undead creature (or creatures in the case of a coven) while the Vampire benefits from having minions that are smarter and stronger than skeletons or zombies. A typical arrangement of mine is using the Ghouls as guardians during the day and pack hunters at night either collecting prey for or driving them towards the Vampire. In turn the Vampires will typically use cunning or influence to keep themselves and their minions hidden from society at large, intervening directly in the case of powerful or skilled opponents such as undead hunters or adventurers. *In my campaigns Vampires are typically powerful and cunning creatures with a natural affinity for necromancy and who quite often have levels in one or more classes. It is very rare to encounter "wild" packs of vampires as their more cosmopolitan kin tend to hunt them down, it's not good for anyone for a bunch of wild animals to be slaughtering and frightening your livestock after all. They also tend to be choosy as to who gets to join their ranks so they often include wealthy or influential people such as landed nobility, the leaders of powerful merchant houses, guild leaders, etc... The sheer ammount of resources and manpower that a well established coven has at its disposal is staggering and crusades have been fought just to uproot them from fallen cities and even the occasional kingdom.

That thing about elves being immune to ghouls’ paralytic touch isn’t in the PHB so I’m excited to tell my players. It really should be in the PHB if it’s in the MM.

Another great video another request for dwarves and magic runes please. I wonder what definitively is your favorite undead. (Personally)

@jakabokbotch420

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite has always been the greater mummy

@TheHornedKing

2 жыл бұрын

Mine is the dracolich.

@dynobomb3673

2 жыл бұрын

Illithilitch is just too interesting to me

@bodaciouschad

2 жыл бұрын

*ZomBees*

@singledad1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@bodaciouschad ZomBeavers

Check out the Pickman Model by Lovecraft and a lot of the work Clark Ashton Smith did. They go into ghouls extensively. Pickman was an artist that needed good subject matter and made a deal with the ghouls to use them as models in exchange for eventually becoming one himself.

“Ghouls create more Ghouls.” Ghouls together strong!

🎶I got ghoul fever! 🎶It’s burning in my brain!🎶 🎶I got ghoul fever!🎶 🎶It’s driving me insane!🎶

I love the family of undead! Once I tried to map out the family of all known undead to see how they've developed over time. Fascinating creatures!

@mylesdrake2949

2 жыл бұрын

As a long time necromancer, I approve of your studies lol.

@daniell1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@mylesdrake2949 The most common pattern I saw was that beings of unlife have to have a supplementary diet of "normal" living things or they faced degradation. Liches seem to have found the most effective source of energy as living things souls. Ghouls require humanoid flesh, etc., they all need something extra to sustain themselves. With two exceptions! Mummies and Mummy Lords are unique in that they spend undeath not needing any form of sustenance. This is probably because they are feeding directly on the divine energy of whatever god of death has gifted them with their unique forms. Either the mummy draws directly from a god (implying minimal costs required with their upkeep, showing divine energy to be incredibly potent a food source) OR their transformation is so perfect not even this is required. I am leaning towards the former conclusion as it seems highly irregular for there to be no "costs" associated with their undeaths. As a fellow student of the arcane, Id love to hear your thoughts!

@mylesdrake2949

2 жыл бұрын

@@daniell1483 as far as Mummies go, they do remove their organs and put them in canopic jars which is how they tie themselves to the divine. Destruction of these jars allows a Mummy to permanently be dealt with. As far as degradation goes, while yes divine magic plays a part, Mummies mostly don't degrade due the techniques use to preserve their bodies. Being the most preserve out of all common undead.. As for other divine intelligent undead you have the "death knight" we can compare to Mummies. These ones are unique in the sense they have no reason to kill or "eat" but kill out of sheer hatred of the world even as their bodies crumble to dust their souls remain piloting their armor. Both however feel they have a "purpose" that must be upheld. Mummies guard their place of burial killing intruders and Death knights engage in a black crusade. Both won't stop till either completely and utterly destroyed or that what purpose that binds them has been fulfilled.

@daniell1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@mylesdrake2949 I suspect that Death Knights are feeding on some small part of their target's souls. DK are to liches what fighters are to mages, so I suspect they have similar needs as a lich, i.e souls. And yeah, canopic jars hold the organs of the mummy, but besides ceremonial reasons, it isn't like they truly need those jars besides the initial creation process. So I think canopic jars are perhaps more a game mechanic than anything; an enemy that is truly unable to be destroyed is problematic for D&D, so I can't help but think that is more of a compromise reached rather than their true purpose. That or, the gods of death are perhaps not allowed to create a perfect undead that isn't able to be destroyed. Either way, as undead, their true nourishment to prevent degradation isn't tied to those jars, it is perhaps just a medium through which those divine forces are able to work to keep the mummy bound to the Prime Material. That is my thoughts anyway.

The fact that ghouls can infect and turn sentient species is actually terrifying, and adds so many story implications.

@krispalermo8133

2 жыл бұрын

A ghast that shoots arrows cover with their own ichor/ blood to poison PCs to increase his numbers. Had that happen to a few of my low level PCs over the years, at lest the DM allowed us to run PC as monster. Mostly cause it free them up from making all the dice rolls themselves.

Now that I know that a Ghast is just a stronger Ghoul, I got to ask a question. *Since they eat Rotten flesh, Do Ghouls eat Zombies?* 🤔

@evannibbe9375

2 жыл бұрын

Probably, especially since the ghouls will eat each other when they run out of flesh from other sources.

@singledad1313

2 жыл бұрын

In my campaign they do not. They require the flesh of a sentient human or humanoid. The process of becoming a zombie destroys their intelligence and making them inedible to ghouls or ghasts. In a weird way, they are spoiled meat to them.

@ruthiekest3218

2 жыл бұрын

@@singledad1313 if they starving,I pretty sure they we'll eat zombies

@oakclarke3976

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@youtubestudiosucks978

2 жыл бұрын

Do you eat zombies and ghouls?

Yessssssss been waiting on a video about the ghouls

I see all the Warhammer AOS images you're using and just want to say i love it! The Flesh Eater Courts are amazing lore wise

The most important thing is that they don't tell you about ghouls is that ghouls just wanna have fun. That's all they really want. Some fun. When the working day is done, ghouls just wanna have fun. They come home in the middle of the night their mummy says "when you gonna live your life right", Oh mummy dear we're not the fortunate ones but ghouls just wanna have fun.

@mahro-wulf9947

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't this song used in the movie the ghoulies?

@BrakhianSoldier

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody needs ghouls in life.

@clericofchaos1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mahro-wulf9947 I don't know but it's always fun to fight Ghouls, ghouls, ghouls. Long legs and bloodstained lips. Dancin down on sunset strip, with blood red lips and fingertips.

@clericofchaos1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrakhianSoldier It's definitely a ghouls world.

@andremedeiros9464

2 жыл бұрын

Who run the world? Ghouls

I am having a ton of fun by adapting the adventure night of the walking dead and combining it with the death house. The ghasts are disguised and walk among the living, actually ruling them.

So there's one thing that I didn't quite understand. At the beginning of the video, you read from the monster manual that a ghoul doesn't decay and they can persist for untold ages without feeding. But then, towards the end, the undead book says they are not immortal and they decay and need to eat. Was this just a difference between editions? Or does the monster manual somehow contain the "imperfect" knowledge someone in-world would have?

@corvus_da

2 жыл бұрын

That's probably a difference between editions. Since they are only immortal in the Abyss, an in-world character would be far more likely to know that they can starve.

So what your saying is… as long as I feed a ghoul flesh we might be friends? I’ve got my next companion for my necromancer!

@evannibbe9375

2 жыл бұрын

Specifically the flesh and brains of sentient creatures.

@christiandidonna8808

2 жыл бұрын

I got this spell that basically gives you a small price of flesh and it satiates most undead for 12 hours

Yes finally we talking about my favorite type of monsters, have always liked the undead classes, looking forward to shadows n nightmares

I seemed super happy at the end haha. Dude your videos are amazing and help so much. Thank you for all the work that you do for the community. The clothing line you are designing is is epic and extremely exciting. Keep up the great work and this channel will keep growing!

@austintensfield5671

2 жыл бұрын

You seemed*

I would love to see the pdf for the armor changes. I actually really liked your weapon change ideas too!

Fully planning on introducing a ghoul kingdom into my campaign world and this helps flesh it out even more. Thank you MrRhexx the lore master.

Even though its 3rd party I'm surprised you didn't give mention of Tome of Beasts 1 & 2 for the ghoul material.

Yes! I wanted to put these in my new campaign! Thankyou!

I'm playing cleric in Dungeon of the Mad Mage, and my DM made ghouls and their ghast into little community where they were all inteligent and communicating. They thought of themselves as noble knights serving their king, and they were acting like it while my party saw them as regular ghouls. And my cleric being young Twilight domain actually mourn the dead ghast king, cause my character is empathetic way too much.

@InquisitorThomas

Жыл бұрын

Check if your DM is an Age of Sigmar fan or has at least heard of the faction called the Flesheater Courts, because I think he might have borrowed the idea from them.

Ok, I can't unsee the knee at 7:08 ... I'm sorry.

Oh this has given me a fantastic idea for an encounter. Thanks!

you are my favorite lore KZreadr i've searched but never find a video explaining the afterlife of forgoten realms, it would be really cool if you made a video about it

I miss the series about the planes...

I wanted so much a video from you talking about ghouls! Thanks a lot. :)

Really Really good content! One of the best narrators on YT! Mr Rhexx just tells great stories.

Can I just say I greatly appreciate these vids on the undead. We're currently doing an evil campaign and my character is heavily based on the working of the anima and the souls of things. Additionally we have a necromancer in our party so some very chaotic things are bound to happen between us. Hearing these grants more insight on the inner workings of the undead

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I waited all day to get off of work to listen to this one and it was well worth it.

Super awesome into!!! Thanks for sharing

I remember the video you talked about revamping the armor system, actually really excited for that it sounded interesting

You mentioned that elves' CANNOT sleep, I always read it as elves' do not NEED to sleep but can in fact actively choose to do so

So in theory ecologically, ghouls would hunt and consume other undead creatures such as zombies? That would make them massively important in preventing the spread of certain strains of undeath.

I’ve been talking about ghouls all week, thank you for uploading

First to appreciate your video! Whoo! All jokes aside can you go over Liberis Mortis and more specifically the Diet, Dependent, Craving, and Inescapable, and why 5th and 4th don't like using them.

Cannot wait for when Fizban's drops to see "What they don't tell you about Gem Dragons."

That music to go with it good stuff man

Wtf, I was literally looking to see if you had made a ghoul video last night! Haha what timing. Thanks for such great content man

Shadowrun ghouls are the same too, except they're still alive. I thought I remembered oldschool D&D ghouls prefered eating long dead corpses than fresh ones, but I might be mixing memories with Necrophages

Thank you so much! I have been looking for a more natural undead for when I don't want to have some lich or necromancer causing mayhem.

MrRhexx: "ghouls are hugely underused in dungeons and dragons" Me come here after getting ready to master play tomb of annihilation: "sure"

Love your videos!

Hopefully next you I can donate to your patron. As a old 2nd ed player I love your deep dives.

Having Ghouls be a very big part of tier 1 in my next campaign so i love this video!

You're a right fookin legend m8

I'd love to see a video on the Penanggalan in future! Maybe we'll get some official stats for her in future 5e books.

I like that you used Flesh Eater Courts images for this video. It makes sense given their fluff lol.

Are you running a complete undead lore series this time, if so i love it, great vid as always

Sweet! I'm going to have to upgrade the ghouls in the BECMI edition.

Great video! For some reason the thumbnail reminds me of an mtg card

we got the Lacedon in Dead in Thay (Tales From the Yawning Portal) :D so they are in 5e, and cr 1 as the ghoul.

Loving the videos about the undead! I'm actually playing as a Necromancer Wizard atm, so these have been particularly helpful. Would you consider doing a video on Wights any time soon?

Already ordered the Lolth t-shirt, but I'm definitely considering getting that Orcus hoodie too. Maybe for christmas. Or my birthday, which is not long after.

Thanks for this cool video.

I'm actually playing through a ghoul campaign right now called "Empire of Ghouls" and it's really cool. It has a lot of really cool lore and variations on ghouls.

Actually ghouls (as described here, that are being forming after acts of cannibalism) have real world equivalent - Wendigo (yes the name comes from the mythical Native American creature) Psychosis is a phenomenon in which a person goes mad; the victim desires human flesh and fears turning into a Wendigo. It starts after a prolonged period of being inside-to escape the cold temperatures and deep snow-with little food. A feeling of melancholy takes over and the sufferer loses their appetite and begins having nightmares. Eventually, the victim goes insane and is consumed by the idea of eating human flesh.

@alchemysaga3745

2 жыл бұрын

There's a similar phenomenon in Japan/certain Asian countries. Though that is called Fox Sickness, and is more of an obsession with consuming specific pieces of anatomy, usually the liver.

I have a lich as my BBEG in the campaign I'm running. I think I'll use some of these ideas for it. Might have the lich creating ghouls and ghasts.

@oldkingspook

2 жыл бұрын

That would be terrifying to challenge.

At this point I want to hear a 'favourite things' cover themed around the undead given the endless plethora of them. "Liches and revenants and banshees that scream..."

Love your video's can you explaining domain of dread and delight

sounds like the plague in wow , where entire cities were almost wiped when nearly everyone turned into undead

One cool thing I did was have a Nosferatu from the new ravenloft book create ghouls instead of vampire spawn with it's bite under it's control(Some Strigoi ghoul king vibes). Ghouls had my take of ghoul fever which was on a successful bite attack DC 15 con save to contract giving you the poisoned condition till cured. After 24 hours have passed you can roll another save and if failed you gain one level of exhaustion that can't be recovered till the ghoul fever is cured. After 3 successful saves the disease ends and you can begin recovering exhaustion levels, death results in you rising as a ghoul the next night or if already night, (paying homage to create undead) in the next d4 hours. If any of you want to use this feel free since wizards literally just forgot to add it if you look up some old sage advice regarding ghouls.

A video on rust monsters would be cool, the older editions say that they can break down any non-magical metal, but 5e says it an only damage nonmagical FERROUS metals

I really hope you continue the videos about the Planes.

This video actually inspired me to feature basically ghoul romans as the badies in my campaign, now my players are scared if they are going to get ferals to be used as a distraction or intellectual warmongers

Could go a darksouls style game of being a true ghoul but the first time to drop to zero you become a normal ghoul until you eat 'a soul' or flesh of a victim. May have a cleanser item that turns you back to human until you drop to zero and return to a ghoul once more.

I still remember that the DC of Saving in 3.5 was 15 that was too high for most characters.

As a warlock necromancer I recommend ghouls all the way

fuck yeah I'm making a vampire teamed campaign and I was looking if u made a vid about them, thanks!

I don't know if you take suggestions for videos, but I would love to see a video about Yuan-ti.

I love how most of the ghoul art is the flesh eater courts

I would still really love to see an Orcus hoodie (or even a Erinyes hoodie) - not a zip-up jacket.

2 hrs in! Love the concept of ghouls.

Well this blows my mind on the zombie lores. Planning to make some harsh reviewing of some of the campaigns I run.

wow u need to keep them comming !

Great video! Love learning about this lore. Favorite part was the mention about midway in vid about how a person could become a ghoul dependent on a life "very gluten - ous" in nature 👀🤪😳 Best PSA against gluten ever👉👍🏻🐧 Ps. - also it's been shown to blow your d*** off, according to Southpark -- so becoming a nasty undead cannibal and this even worse curse 🤔☺🙃🐧

Lol, I did a ghoul sorcerer with the Phoenix subclass from unearthed arcana Basically I looked up a homebrew race and then wrote background story that some cultists tried resurrecting an undead with the essence of the Phoenix to restore the original person Well, the ritual went wrong, consumed all their life force, but actually brought the character back She then ate a lot of the corpses in a frenzy, calmed down, read the notes and books at the cultists' place, then ate the remaining corpses and left to explore the world She has no memories btw, just human intelligence and the normal player/sorcerer abilities

Good luck - I'm very much interested in you armor project. I'll back it if you put it on Kickstarter. Thank you for all your amazing content!

So ready for the vampire video

You could have mention "Empire of the Ghouls" from Kobold Press. It's a third party 5e module, they actually have the same idea as you 2 or 3 years ago and made a 350 pages book. You even took the art cover of the book for your video at 9:53.

I hope youre able to get around to Nightwalkers and their kin. Love those monsters.

I wonder if ghouls and vampires could share a kill? Blood for the vampire and the flesh for the ghoul?

@krispalermo8133

2 жыл бұрын

Did that in a game, a ghoul guillotine a PC, hangs the body to drain the blood for the vampires and then butchers the corpus. Saves the skeleton for later animation. It was .. very .. grimdark horror so non of the players were running their stander PCs.

@SpaceCowboy1218

2 жыл бұрын

@@krispalermo8133 that's very, very grim and dark, lol but seemingly very on brand for a vamp/ghoul alliance. I wonder about the meta narrative of it all, is there some essential (metaphysical) life force that they (ghouls and vamps) are tapping into when they consume flesh/blood or is it simple physiology/biology as in the specific variety of cells that fuel them? If there's some spiritual essense they're consuming are they reducing their individual nourishment by sharing a kill or is it a symbiotic?

@krispalermo8133

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceCowboy1218 " cough, cough, " ghouls normally eat dead rotting or dried out flesh where the body's blood has already scab up or rotted away. Vampires feed on life force that is carried in the blood. In some campaign setting vampires must take fresh blood and cause temporary con dmg to feed themselves so they can't drink stored blood like modern film vampires do. Ravenloft vampire will punk their guts out if they drink animal blood.

@SpaceCowboy1218

2 жыл бұрын

@@krispalermo8133 I was confused as to ghouls appetites as I thought they hungered after the living too but that does round out my understanding of them. As for vampires, I'm not too familiar with the Twilight varities but the Anne Rice ones are a little more my speed, so I appreciate it when vampires can choose to merely subsist on animals so as to not feed on humans unless they cross some moral line of the vampire's creation. I think that's a little differeent than the 5e (and maybe even broader D&D lore) but I think that leaves them more flat as far as narrative potential. Thank you for your feedback though, food for thought, I could see how they could work together better now.

@krispalermo8133

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceCowboy1218 The vampires I deal with running a game is lore base off of AD&D2nd Ravenloft Van Richten's Guide to Vampires along with White Wolf/ World of Darkness: Vampire. Twilight is a teenage girl train wreak and I read the Anne Rice novels as a teenager back in the 1990's. I hated the movie " Queen of the Damn," cause they cram three to four novels into a single 90min film. Imagine all three of the Lord of the Ring movies cram into a single 90min move, there is no justice to it. When I played RPGs back 15 years ago, my last game shop DMs follow my trend of doing a hack slasher horror game of telling everyone to roll up three to four extra PC to play at once, and don't play your favorite PCs. PC deaths tend to be more than a bit brutal, if they play their main PCs .. then treat it as a mass group Nightmare spell encounter where they gain half XP and suffer 1d6 temporary Wisdom dmg for the next week if they live through the game. If they died in play, they lose One Xp class level, plus 1d10 temporary Wisdom dmg, if death was really brutal they take 1d4 permanent Wisdom dmg on top of it all, as being effected by an Energy Drain by a Succubus. Examples, ... a.) It didn't matter how many hp the PC has, a surprise sneak attack one hit kill shot with an ax to the head is for dramatic effect. Roll Fort sv DC 10+dmg for the number of sec you flop around twitching like a fish out of water missing half your face/ head choking on spitting blood. " Prue nightmare fuel." b.) Having to wrestle a mid size dog with rat's muck disease with Str/ Dex rolls till exhaustion sets in, along with biting hp dmg. Even if you live through the dog attack, you still have to deal with blood fever. What makes the encounter scarier is fighting in the dark after taking a fall breaking a leg so you also have to deal with reduce movement. Cross the dog with a mutated squid for a Call of Cthulhu encounter, let the PC roll four or six atks each round as they rapid slap and try to kick the creature off of them. c.) A little eight year old vampire girl that makes fast attacks with a strait razor and sicking street rats on her victim to build up terror so she can feed on the cripple person fear enrich blood. Just before her victim dies they are eaten alive by her rats ..." the screams echo down the cobble stone pave street." d.) D&D3.5e ghouls had a high enough charisma score to have a few levels in the sorcerer class granting them a couple of 1st-level wizard arcane spells for bonus low level dmg. Or spell effect such as True Strike ( +20 insight bonus on next atk tro hit.) or double movement to rapid rush atk a PC. A ghoul with Spider Climb is a nice plot encounter twist. " PC feels something .. dripping on them .. and when they look up to see where it is coming from, a ghoul is eating a blood dripping corpus above them. " e.) Having a ghoul/ ghast hunt PCs with arrows covered in it's own bloody ichor to infect it's targets to build it's followers. The PCs don't know what type of poison they have been hit with. Only after 1d4 hr after the PC have died do they learn what is stalking them, after one or a few of them turn into a ghoul themselves. f.) .. what is the best way to F**K with the PC group. 1.) pack of werewolves " dog/ cat " napping as they take turns keeping the PC woodland hunting party from sleeping for a week till they simply fall over from exhaustion instead of hp combat dmg. 2.) Heavy snow fall that covers tracks within a couple of minutes, all a hunter has to do is sit and wait for a bit and the snow will cover them into a perfect hiding camo. Heavy snow and fog limits vision range but the hunter tracks the PC by scent, fires arrows and drags the bodies up trees. " A 13th-level wizard with the spell Control Weather and polymorph themselves into a fiend/ demon or large size dragon with a Fly spell to travel without a sound. " 3.) Hell I drop Darth Vader into a D&D game using the 3.5e rules as a twist. In away he could pass as a .. normal .. Death knight, but it was his know speech phrases that gave him away. Using Star Wars force skills in D&D is a scary plot twist as is using Psionic feats into a Star Wars campaign. Mind blast & Ego Whip is brutal. Check out YT videos on Pacific Cargo Cults, .." For some reason the local barony troops started to wear plate armor painted white and use rapid fire light cross bows." .. much later on, " Where did these guys get magic rod/ wands mounted on cross bows firing Flame Arrow spells ?" 4.) There is a killer on the loose that drowns people in rain puddles and drains them of their blood. .. Plot twist, the murder is not a vampire .. yet. 5.) Have you ever watched the movie " Children of the Corn " ? ... but the children Must have been Charmed and being controlled by some master mind. No just a bunch of murderous little b@stards treated as 1st-level rogues with sneak/ flanking atk. " crying little brat knife my ribs when I gave him a hug after he ask for one." 1d4 knife in sleeve of shirt +1d6 sneak atk. " Poor fool kneel down to help the little girl only to be dog pack by the rest of the children. " +4 Prone, +2 flank, and +2 sneak =+8 to hit, club or blade the children's choice. " 6.) Some jerk polymorph a troll into a bleeping rabbit, " Attack of the Killer Bunny." .. ahh such a cute rabbit .. - the last word from many victims. Cross a troll with a red dragon built like a pit bull for running speed. .. two headed dog with dragon scale armor and resist fire dmg. 7.) Vampires have to sleep during the day, ghouls are awake for 24hr .. so ghouls are the day watch. Years ago I had a Dungeon of Death, the ticket booth sell person was a smart mouth insulting ghoul that was cemented into place from the waist down that couldn't run/ move from his place. If the PC failed or would have died, they were teleported back up front being dumped into a trash heap where the ghoul would insult them some more.

Hi mrRhexx! You should do the otyugg, I think they'd be really cool

Can you do a really deep dive into vampires? That’d be awesome