Apparently, Jareth was meant to kiss Sarah in the original script, but Bowie refused to kiss Connelly because she was a minor.

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

Interestinggg, I didn't know that 👀

@WynneL

Жыл бұрын

Damn, he really was a class act.

@ah-nononoo

7 ай бұрын

Yet, he slept with them

@mittag983

23 күн бұрын

But sleeping with them was okay for him? What a hypocrite.

@JaredRatliff88

13 күн бұрын

He wouldn’t kiss her because she is female.

Jareth's predatory nature was always intentional. Brian Henson actually talks about this in one of the special features on the DVD. He talks about how his father wanted to create a cautionary fairy tale. Jareth is portrayed as something of a romantic figure because that's how Sarah has been imagining him. If you watch closely, at the beginning, when they are panning all the objects in Sarah's room that we'll later see brought to life in the labyrinth, there is a scrapbook of clippings about Sarah's actress mother - including a picture of her mother with David Bowie! Whether he is her mother's boyfriend or just her co-star, we don't see, but since Sarah seems to idealize her mother, dressing up in costumes and acting out her favorite books, it makes sense that she would romantisize her mother's leading man as well. The whole point of the movie is that he's trying to get Sarah to submit to the fantasy, but she recognizes the danger and says no.

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

You have a photo of the clipping?

@Lovely24by7

2 ай бұрын

I like this interpretation thanks for sharing it!

@cuttleb0nes

Ай бұрын

oooooo I love this idea that Sarah gets the image of Jareth by thinking about the literal David Bowie that exists in her world LOL

Although I like your take on Labyrinth, I kind of have a different approach on this film. To me, in a lot of fantasy movies that involve a girl going into a fantasy world (ex: Alice in Wonderland, Spirited Away, Pan's Labyrinth, Jim Henson's Labyrinth, etc.), it's mostly because it's an analogy of how when we're kids entering teenage years and later transcending into adulthood, it's an uncomfortable experience for us because nobody escapes the inevitable power of change. So we use fantasy as a coping mechanism to how life and change seems so difficult to deal with. In the case of Sarah, the reason why she wants to escape into fantasy because she feels like she wants to avoid the responsibilities of adulthood. When Jareth comes into the picture, he not only serves as a representation of Sarah's fears and uncertainties of adulthood, he also serves as a mentor. In the deleted scene of the final confrontation after Sarah rejects Jareth, he gives a smirk because he knows she passed the test of choosing between using fantasy as an escape or accepting change and live in the real world. Plus her imagining the friends she's made in the Labyrinth in her room represents how even though we may have "grown up", we still have nostalgic thoughts to look back on.

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

I don’t disagree with this at all! The interpretation that I explain in the video is definitely one thats motivated by emotion- but if I’m being more realistic about the films meaning (as it was intended by Henson) I think this is probably much closer!

@orchidweaver99

4 ай бұрын

Honestly love this interpretation as well as this video's. Cool!

@floating_rock172

3 ай бұрын

Yeah! That was my interpretation too!

@rubenoteiza9261

Ай бұрын

I think that your interpretation is the closest in this comments column to the right one. While many people see Jareth as a foreign, independent character in the story to me it looks more like a projection of forces acting inside Sarah's soul and body because of the natural process she is going through. It is the same with boys of that age, as they come of age they fantasize about a relation with an older woman, like in The Graduate, perhaps because the mere idea of being able to achieve such a thing gives them assurances that they will be OK in the adult world. It is all part of the same process.

@JordanVanRyn

Ай бұрын

@@rubenoteiza9261 Wow that is actually another really good interpretation too. It’s fascinating that we get to interpret what certain stories actually mean. This is why I love films because they give us the audience an opportunity to figure things out.

I get a Peter Pan vibe from Jareth. Like he was kidnapped just as Toby was and despite looking like an adult and possibly being hundreds of years old he is emotionally stuck as a child. He manipulates and drugs Sarah and he and his subjects seem to have been watching her all her life from the goblin realm. The junk lady can even give Sarah toys she lost years ago. Sarah closely resembles her dead or absent mother.

@rachellydiab

5 ай бұрын

I’ve heard a similar theory before that jareth was kidnapped as a baby and raised by goblins! Quite a fun twist on the film

Very interesting take, I had a similar one upon first watching the movie, although mine was a little more... positive? I'd say that the main difference, for me, was that Sarah never experienced any sa in the real world and so, rather than being a reflection of real-life trauma, this is just her engaging with various tropes and situations she might have read about in her books or heard about in real life and exploring them in a safe space, aka her imagination. The reason why the ending scene features villanous characters as well as heroic ones is that they, too, are a part of Sarah's inner world, and she embraces this darker part of her imagination as it teaches her what she should avoid. Really lovely video btw, it deserves more attention!

@NessNayii

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was more or less my interpretation as well, that the Bowie character is a representation of the 'scary unknown' in the adult world, (which intrinsically includes a sexual component, of course) that she's figuring out in her mind, as opposed to a direct representation of SA and trauma. That said, I do think that some of the themes in the video are inherently - but unconsciously - there, as a result of the time it was made, wherein there was an undercurrent of frightening acceptability to older men having sex with younger girls, and a surface level ignorance of it...but there's just no way Jim Henson made a film for young children about sexual assault, and no way Bowie agreed to act as a child abuser character, even if veiled within a degree of metaphor. Nonetheless, a pertinent and incisive take on the film, should one choose to view it that way.

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

I really like this take re 'safe spaces'. Definitely a new way of thinking about it for me that makes it a lot less dark! And thank you so much 😊

@marniekilbourne608

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I never once thought about her take! To me, it was about growing up. I was 11 when my brother was born so I was very often left in charge of him and my then 6 year old sister from then on. I had to do adult things like babysitting at an age when I obviously sometimes resented it because I wanted to do what I wanted to do. I never thought about the age difference because I never really saw him as a legit love interest. No way was she going to choose the villain of the movie. I just saw him as a older prince that any girl may imagine in a fantasy or such as ones she read in her books.

Interesting take! I always took Jareth to be her own fantasy, her own projection of something to overcome. Fears of adulthood, men, sexuality, power, finding her voice. His appearance seems to be taken from a decoration in her room as well as a newspaper clipping she has up- if I remember right its intended to be a tabloid photo of her birth mother and the actor(?) she ran away with- he takes on the appearance of both. I always like a movie to have a cheeky little "was it a fantasy or was it not?" hint and this one does have it. I also always found it interesting that when she returns she keeps the friends and challenges she wants but he doesn't return with her, he leaves in owl form- the way he is outside the window has very vampiric or fairy-like symbolism- he is not invited in anymore. In a literal fantasy creature sense or in a dream-logic sense, he's created by her, given form and role etc and absolutely plays the part of the enigmatic villain she wants to confront while she teeters on the edge of adulthood. I never really got a sinister message from it- especially because so many people growing up go through grappling with darker themes and interest in the adult world before they're ready- out of curiosity, trauma etc. If anything did happen to her, the movie feels like a bit of one of her dreams trying to work through it. Ofc this is only what I always took from it! Interesting to see lots of other takes in the comments as well. The dreamlike symbolism and quality really lends itself to interpretation.

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

A lot of the movies of the 80s kids’ fantasy film variety have the same premise.

The weirdest experience is watching Labyrinth for the first time when you are younger than 4/5 and then think you are gong in for your first watch at 16 as a Bowie fan. Nightmare Deja vu

"Like we're still supposed to be in Jareth's world, and in that sense, still under his control." One of the things I came across while digging on the internet for the meaning of the Labyrinth is that Jareth is actually Sarah's stepdad/mother's boyfriend, Jeremy. Around Sarah's room, there are photos that include Bowie with her mom, and there's a snippet from a newspaper article telling that both are theater actors. With the interpretation that her fantastical journey is actually her processing her sexual assault, Jareth really being her stepdad who has groomed her makes a lot of sense. How she may have very complicated feelings for him, since he's this amazing guy and stage actor who she crushes on, knowing it's wrong, and yet he preys on that. Under this lens, your quote toward the end of the video may be true. Jareth, who is really Jeremy, has groomed Sarah, and she is trying to break free from his spell in the only way she knows how, through fantasy. Saving herself in her mind because she feels so lost and helpless. Excellent video analysis btw, immediately subscribed.

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I did not know the details about the phots/him being an actor etc- especially given that she's shown at the beginning as being into theatre that would totally line up with her idolising him and possibly allowing him to get close to her. Really interesting theory, thank you for commenting! And thank u so much for the kind words 💜💜

@karowolkenschaufler7659

3 ай бұрын

this makes too much sense. and it makes a labyrinth the perfect metaphor for the situation.

@Lovely24by7

2 ай бұрын

Wow that was amazing 🤩 thanks for sharing your interpretation this and goes really well with what she explained in the video about her being assaulted it all makes sense now!!

just noticing this. the ballroom scene is very similar to the ballroom scene in "sweeney todd" wich is where judge Turpin rapes Lucy while the crowd cheers.... and yep, the musical version of sweeney todd predates the labyrinth film by 9 years (just checked).

I watched this film for the first time yesterday. It was an experience. Weird , cheesy but incredible. I think that to try to explain it in a literal sense is futile so it’s about the themes (basically treating it like Utena) I think Jareth wanting Sarah to be with him is him wanting to drag her down into childishness and irresponsibility. Sarah means princess in Hebrew and traditionally princesses where objects of desire in stories and not ppl with actual political power. Accepting Jareth is to have everything but also not being able to grow and develop or experience the world. Basically being a child forever. And I think Jareth is also stuck in this role of a powerful king - basically the epitome of power and masculinity but has no say in the manner. Maybe he thinks by being with Sarah he will be more whole and fulfilled? But of course to truly be you and grow up you need to break free from the roles that you were given as they are restrictive. Unfortunately Jareth didn’t. But thankfully Sarah manage to grow up while not completely throwing away her childhood. Maybe one day Jareth will revolutionize his world. Sarah did it after all. That’s my first impression in the film. Your analysis is dark but oddly fitting.

@cuttleb0nes

Ай бұрын

UTENA MENTIONED!!!!

I just want to thank you for making this video. Being a survivor myself, I grew up watching Labyrinth and to this day it’s still one of my favorite movies. But, rewatching it time and again after having gone through what I did, now that I’m older I’ve been finding a kind of different comfort past the whimsical nature of this film. Like, yeah, I’d always felt empowered in a sort of way by the message of growing up and finding unlikely friendship and defying those who seek to harm you- but seeing all of that as a story of someone going through the complex emotions of being taken advantage of and harmed and inevitably taking control over her own life… I just see myself in that and this video really just formulates what I feel when I watch this film into words and I can’t commend you enough for it. Also- you’re just really funny! And cool! And I love your videos, you’re always so thoughtful and respectful when covering such dark subject matter and I find it very intriguing, even when you’re not cracking jokes haha

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

Hi!! Thank you for this comment and for sharing. I really resonate with you on that and I'm so glad you that the video was able to express some of those feelings. And thank you!! This made me so happy to read 💜

Oh my word I have missed you so much. Love this RayRay you're a champion x

WOW, i saw the title & was honestly hoping this was the theory you'd talk about, the first time I heard it it clicked so many things for me. Your care in explaining this is great and done way better than I ever could. I'll say tho I tend to think it wasnt intentional on Hensons part, but it was also too perfect to cast Bowie & the exaggeration of the bulge. Ultimately, I believe Henson always had a prominent message of preserving our innocence, to never disconnect from our inner child. Whats so masterful to me of his films is the extreme change of perspective from watching them as kids vs as adults, nothing about the films change, but suddenly you notice deeply detailed subliminals that speak heavily to real complexities of our world. The Dark Crystal is also canonically esoteric! Great Work!

@rachellydiab

3 ай бұрын

Hey thank you so much! I think you’re so right about ‘preserving innocence’… even just reading that made me shiver a little bit. I think his work exists in that perfect space of tapping into some of the inherent understandings we have about morality and evil and magic as children… and reconnecting to that as an adult is something very magical but also quite frightening… much to think about 💭

@goldernbtatenun

3 ай бұрын

@rachellydiab thank u :,,)) and I'd say!!!! perhaps Jim Hensons mind is honestly much more far reaching then most of us can know. I admire your energy and dedication to analysis so much! 🙏

This essay speaks out on such a deep level what I felt about this movie, re-watching it in my 20s. Amazing!

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

Aw thank you so so much 🙏🏻

I watched this everyday with next door neighbor for months in her basement. My mom would have never let me watch it at age 6 pre-1st grade (circa 89-90). Same girl ignored me once she hit Private school in 1st grade 😂 and everything in this movie is 80s, baby! I vibed with Bowie's magical, magnetic androgyny but repelled by his characters creepiness. It was the opposite of romance

@rachellydiab

6 ай бұрын

lmao. So 80's and magical! I'm a 90's baby but I've always felt really drawn to 80's movies (heathers, lost boys, beetlejuice) and Labyrinth is the best of the best imo!

What I love about this film is how open to interpretation it is, so here's what I've come to after it having been in my life for years (I caught it on TV when I was about 10 I think). As others have said, there's a clipping of David Bowie with Sarah's mother, who is an actress. And I think the implication is that the mother left her father for him. And in her only scenes, the stepmother is actually really mean and insensitive to Sarah, expecting her to be a free babysitter without even checking with her and passive aggressively shaming her for not dating, later triangulating and running to her husband to use as an ally whenever Sarah has a problem with her behaviour. The father likewise does nothing and doesn't seem to care that his daughter is upset. The fact that there's mention of them frequently taking her toys to give to Toby without asking indicates that Sarah's boundaries aren't respected in the house. Like many toxic parents, they want her to be an adult when it will benefit them, but they don't treat her like one when it requires giving up something. Sarah identifies with fairy tales and misunderstood heroines, which often do feature toxic or dysfunctional families, and the heroines like Cinderella, Rapunzel, Snow White etc are usually rewarded for struggling through difficulty by having a handsome prince come and whisk her away to a better life. But in this case, the prince charming is also the wicked witch, and Sarah already begins to realise her mistake when Toby is kidnapped. Toby is an innocent whom she took her frustrations out on, and Sarah's maturity is in spending the whole film trying to rescue him when she had wished he be taken away from her in the first place. Sarah repeatedly has to learn not to take things for granted and that life sometimes isn't fair - like with how the Labyrinth changes or Jareth accelerates time - and she ultimately wins by working with the hand she's been dealt and finding people to help her rather than doing it all herself. So the Labyrinth is a metaphor for the situation she's in with her father and stepmother - it's a difficult situation that she was unfairly put in, but she 'wins' by being smart and not hurting innocent people as revenge for what was done to her, breaking the cycle of abuse. She is given the choice to live in her fantasy forever, which would also involve condemning Toby to a lifetime among the goblins, but she rejects Jareth's offer and tells him he has no power over her. And while she says she does need the friends at the end, note that she doesn't return to the Labyrinth to be with them, like when the Junk Lady tried to get her to live in an illusion. She brings *them* into *her* world. The friends also respect her boundaries the way the parents never did, first offering her the chance to let them be part of her world and telling her they're there if she needs them, rather than forcing their way into the room. And Jareth, likewise unlike the family, accepts defeat, creating a rather sad bit of subtext that in Sarah's fantasy world, even the villains respect her boundaries and treat her with respect when her parents don't. So Sarah learns that prince charming isn't coming to save her, so she will have to take steps to save herself, while also taking care of Toby and not punishing him for things that aren't his fault, showing love and care for the baby the way her parents haven't for her.

Girl your channel is everything how do you not have millions of followers!!

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

Raaa, thank you!!! Fingers crossed one day haha x

I like this review. You handled the sensitive topics with sensitivity and careness.

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

Thank you 💜

I just recently realized that the entire movie is about a target trying to escape the mental trapping claws of a narcissist! 🤯 It's all there - the love-bombing, smoke-and-mirrors, gas-lighting, word-salading, denying, intimidating, cruelty - and the entire world is populated with gobbling-shaped flying-monkeys!!! 🤯

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

Just like the Wizard of Oz.

@JaredRatliff88

13 күн бұрын

In both movies, every character in the fantasy world is created by the protagonist. The villain is their own shadow, and in Sarah’s case, her animus.

I love Labyrinth (& Bowie) so much and this was a joy to watch thanks !💙

@rachellydiab

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! So glad you enjoyed ⭐️

This was so interesting, I've never fully watched Labyrinth but I definitely want to now. You've strangely made me think about Howl's Moving Castle with this, how age is so entwinned in that story, the feminine lead magically becoming an elderly woman and the wizard Howl being almost stuck as a young boy

@rachellydiab

11 ай бұрын

Exciting, thank you for watching! I’ve only seen Howl’s Movint Castle once but I was quite shocked about Sophies transformation, because its such a specific change and I never really understood its relevance. This has got me thinking hahah

So I'm 43, and from The States, and I grew up on Labyrinth, I was really young when I saw it, I don't remember if I saw it in the cinema or not, but I just remember being young, maybe 6 or 7. And when it came out on VHS I wore the tape out, lol, and to this day it's a comfort film I ljke to watch each autumn. Fast foward to not that long ago, I'm living in Korea and I'm just dating my now husband that's French, he's a bit younger than me so was way too young for the initial Labyrinth pandemonium, lol, and he was in France where from his perspective it wasn't as popular, and his parents aren't "in to" those kinds of movies, so he's heard of it but has never seen it before, I show it to him, and he says it's not horrible but way too weird for his tastes, 😂😂, but then I showed him the Black Crystal, and he loved it, like really loved it. Lol, I don't get it, they are similar in style and feeling in a way, why would Labyrinth be weird but not The Black Crystal, lol, is it because The Black Crystal is more "traditional" fantasy?

Jermaine as David Bowie is just as iconic!😂❤ fantastic video

@rachellydiab

3 ай бұрын

Thank u!!! x

ugh your mind!!!

I first watched Labyrinth when I was 24 and found it deeply intriguing but also unsettling. Your analysis beautifully captures some of the sinister vibes I got from the film. It's gorgeous, but there's something buried underneath that doesn't bear looking at too closely, lest it drag us into a place we don't understand and aren't ready for. (Alas, I was already an adult and stuck in that realm! 😂)

i love you and your mind, never change or apologize lmao

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

This comment legit means so much, thank u 💜

I've always taken this movie at face value. This analysis makes so much sense, but it's completely changed my perspective on it. I always interpreted the goblin king in the end, being jealous of Sarah's friendships with all the goblins . They were all his victims and he will never be a part of their inner world the way she connects with them.

It's definitely an appreciative unique and different take of the story from what it's originally intended as.

This hit hard for me having a lot of weird experiences growing up

@rachellydiab

8 ай бұрын

A lot of unpleasant realisations come the further we way from adulthood- hope ur ok x

I had a similar perspective of this film - especially given that at the start when she’s acting and reading her script her parents criticise her childishness

also the Bowie impression at the end made me gayer

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

this is the best outcome I could hope for 💓💓💓💓

i read a feminist essay suggesting it's a metaphor for masturbation

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

Link?

@JaredRatliff88

14 күн бұрын

It isn’t

the irony of this being the movie my mom put on after I got my first period

Still one of my favourite movies from the 80's ❤

The story of Alice in wonderland and this of Labyrinth where both the female leads have this implied power in certain iterations like the Live action Disney Alice being made the knight and in control of her own destiny and being able to transfer that strength to finally say no to the proposal at the end of the movie is very interesting when a film like Dream child(1985) exists. Dream child deals with a much older Alice whom the book was based off of dealing with the twisted fantasy world that wonderland has become now that she's older. Jim Henson's creature shop even made the puppets for the movie and when you see how they look like they're almost rotting it really emphasizes how her childhood was rotten itself from the influence of a man like Charles Dodgson. It's really sad how the imagination seems like the one place you can go to make sense of things and think you have a say in what goes on there until it becomes a hell in itself as the unaddressed traumas continue to invade it but they must be dealt with at some point though.

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

Dreamchild is great. I have it on DVD.

Yes, it looks like a narcissist kind of show I love labyrinth, but being with a narcissist, kind of shows me of what spells they put on you, and looking in the mirror and knowing you got your power, and they cannot control you

omg the deer! im dying. ive wanting one for years. beautiful, one day i hope ill have one too 😂😂

@rachellydiab

8 ай бұрын

Isn’t she gorgeous! Such a lucky second hand find!!

How have I not seen this video already?!? I love Labyrinth 😭😂

@rachellydiab

6 ай бұрын

It's the best 🦋🦋🦋 hope u enjoyed the vid!

@Thenewboidahlia

6 ай бұрын

@@rachellydiab I did! Loved the whole video!!

You are missing the point of the role of Toby. The entire plot actually revolves around him.

I never got that seeing it as a kid, a teen or now but I suppose I could be missing it. To me, it was about growing up. I was 11 when my brother was born so I was very often left in charge of him and my then 6 year old sister from then on. I had to do adult things like babysitting at an age when I obviously sometimes resented it because I wanted to do what I wanted to do. I never thought about the age difference because I never really saw him as a legit love interest. No way was she going to choose the villain of the movie. I just saw him as a older king/prince that any girl may imagine in a fantasy or such as ones she read about in her books. The ball just being a fantasy ball from the same place imagination/books or some combination. I definitely didn't see it as sexual or any kind of date rape. I've been sexually assaulted in various ways since my late teens be men. I was only fully date raped by one boyfriend I had in my early 30's thankfully but he didn't bother to drug me he just overpowered me. It took me a while to even be able to recognize and fully realize that was what had actually happened with him on multiple occasions. Thankfully, it didn't take me as long to realize I was in ever increasing danger and I needed to leave him. Especially because he very quickly TOLD me I was wife material and mother of his children material and he was set on it from date number one. So, kids and married were imminent in HIS mind. He didn't ask if I wanted either of those things with him because he was an arrogant ahole obviously. To me, Labyrinth is just a kids movie still thankfully.

I remember watching this movie on a birthday party with my friends. We were 11 or 12 at the time. And even back then, i had the feeling that something was off. The "relationship" between Sarah and Jared felt wrong, like we were watching a movie for adults we are not supposed to watch yet. So, I agree with everything you say.

What was that clip with the animated rabbit heads from!?

@rachellydiab

6 ай бұрын

Watership Down!

1986...

It's interesting to me how much this reading, especially of the ending, echoes the 1960s sci-fi show, The Prisoner, though that show centers the POV of a middle-aged man, not teen girl.

Is there a link to the Labyrinth D.I.D. mind control C.I.A. article?

Sarah wants to be an adult so she doesn’t have to deal with her family situation. This could be why she is surrounded by adults. But she realizes that isn’t where she wants to be and has to join the family by saving her brother. (Stepbrother?)

I am imagining Prince in this movie now. :)

This movie changes meaning quickly when you realize that Sarah made up Jareth’s “face” from the scene partner/lover that her mother left her family for. Sarah is viewing Jareth through an Elektra complex lens, the film is a metaphor for an abandoned girl’s first masturbatory fantasy. Maybe Jareth and the Labyrinth are real, maybe they aren’t, but Sarah manifested how everything would appear to her, she is the one pulling the strings. Perhaps it’s my own love of this film, but I see the SA metaphor as much weaker than that of a girl on her sexual awakening fantasizing.

... no, it's about Goblins. Kidding. Nice essay. I think you missed something here. After her dream/sexual assault she wakes up in a junkyard. After being abused and giving her virginity, she's no longer pure, so she's symbolically thrown away, she had become trash of no value to the goblin king anymore. This may also be reference to women sometimes waking up in strange places, their bodies dumped after their sexual abuser accidentally kills them when taking sex by force.

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And, although I didn’t go into as much detail as you do here, I agree and actually do allude to this when I talk about it ringing an unpleasant bell- that bell, to me, being the real life incidences you’ve mentioned of waking by dumpsters or in unfamiliar places.

@johnnytyler1

Жыл бұрын

@@rachellydiab You know what I'm hearing? We are both insanely smart. Agreed? :P

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnytyler1 Agreed 😇

Great blouse

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

Cheers!

The ball scene reminds me of Sweeny Todd

Yes my first ewacton after closing ky lapto was wtf was that bit alsp wtf was David Bowie as Jareth so hot there😂

@rachellydiab

3 ай бұрын

Understandable hahaha

comment !

only 2 films I'm sure I think are perfect, Labyrinth and Coraline

I’m 39 and I watched the labyrinth loads. I fell in love with David Bowie Goblin King and his leggings and yeah that bulge 😂 it’s a beautiful movie and pure nostalgia.

@Loves_life_84

8 ай бұрын

I have to admit I was obsessed by this movie 🎥 and looking back on it, I think it was unhealthy. I remember years later I became obsessed with David Bowie. About three years ago I sold all my Bowie vinyl collection and decided to move on from the obsession. I occasionally watch labyrinth movie clips and sometimes listen to the soundtrack. But I’m older now and realised there was something about this movie. It was a lovely movie but feels different now

@rachellydiab

8 ай бұрын

@@Loves_life_84 This is so interesting!! Fascinating that the love of Bowie continued... I adore him and his character in Labyrinth but I can't not see sinister undertones in his performance , intentional or not!

It is a Gnostic tale. Jareth is the Demiurge/Satan. He created and rules over the word of matter, false appearances and illusions where human beings get lost and forget their true purposes and identities (the spheres, the mirrors, the labyrinth itself) as opposed to the true world of essences created by the actual God. For this reason, Jareth is a trickster and a deceiver, but at the same time, he is the instrument of a higher power, in the sense that he fulfils his duty by testing Sarah and leading her to become fully individuated. He is also the Tempter, enticing Sarah with her own fantasies about what adulthood can be like, but leading her away from what's wholesome and essential and into shallow, materialistic and selfish pursuits (the thrill of erotic love, beauty, nice stuff, etc.). I saw the ballroom scene as a temptation and as a carnivalesque vanitas (work of art showing the futility, shallowness and fleetingness of temporary riches, transient physical beauty, worldly society, reputations and pleasures and how death hides behind them and ultimately swallows them). In this scene Jareth's mask is a devil with horns and a skeletal hand that holds it. Jareth is not fazed by relative defeat because he has fulfilled his mission of carrying Sarah to full development and he is still not totally defeated because he is a sub-God, the demiurge, we all still live and will always live in the world of matter removed from the ultimate world of spirit or reality. That's why I also interpreted the scene where she wakes up after eating the peach as coming back to ugly reality after indulging in fantasies. So many more examples can be found throughout the film. Even the hairy demons symbolise the fear of the dissolution of the ego and the material body (they take off parts of themselves, chomp each other, etc.) the underlying logic of these Hyeronimous Bosch-like demons is not punishment, but ultimately quasi Tibetan non attachment, to stop making you overidentify your selfhood with a temporary, material vessel and reconnect to something higher and eternal.

@JaredRatliff88

14 күн бұрын

💯

I am sorry but I believe you are reading a way to adult personal point of view into the story. I think you need a more innocent eye to really get the point that the story is trying to tell. This is clearly about a transition of ages of a young female. The primary theme is how her proper playful child is being pulled into more adult worlds. This is how Sarah is asked by her parents to take on more adult and responsible roles. So she is moving from child into teenage life and eventually towards womanhood. The dream world is all Sarahs psyche and Jareth is not some 39 yo male, its Sarahs view on her male "ideals" what she thinks male is and what she wants it to be. Thus the fruit narrative becomes really about her confronting her growing sexuality and how she escapes its lure. The whole film is fundamentally about a childhood saved and not lost. The scene with the Owl on the perch in the end is clearly hinting at the fact that Sarah might have postponed her adult a little, but its all eventually going to happen. Using terms like rape and grooming is really way to dark for what the movie contain, but I am sure all loss of virginity and first encounter with sexuality will have some aspects of that in it for almost everyone, males and females. Its always a child/teen being pushed or pulled into a world they don't really know or understand yet.

@sl4teddy1

Жыл бұрын

That’s your interpretation though, the thing is you can’t say “clearly this represents x” because it’s not clear, that’s the point of storytelling and art, it’s not clear and is up to interpretation. You may not be wrong but you can’t go around saying others are wrong because *clearly* your opinion is the right one

@NessNayii

Жыл бұрын

@@sl4teddy1 you have a point, as it pertains to a person declaring absolutes of interpretation, but in this case what are the odds that Jim Henson made a film for young children about child sexual assault, or that Bowie agreed to act as a child abuser character, even if veiled within a degree of metaphor? The chances are that this poster is more along the right lines, if I may say.

@rachellydiab

Жыл бұрын

Kia ora! As I said at the beginning of the video, this is my interpretation of the film and I make no claims as to what the intended meaning is. I'm here to discuss what resonated with me within Labyrinth and to explain how I came to think about it the way I do. Thanks for watching (-:

@raquelchapa9756

9 ай бұрын

that is the way I read it "You have no power over me" is her starting to manage her own emotions

Lol😂

A story I'm working on is inspired by the premise of Labyrinth, mostly, with the heroine being a bisexual autistic living with loving but unhelpful adopted family, pining for her birth parents (a glamorous but controversial hollywood couple of mixed ages), suffering both an Electra and Oedipal complex, obsessing over fantasy and mythology and folklore, both fears and desires adulthood, is in denial of her identity due to living a place and time where being queer and autistic could get her both shunned and committed (so she would lie to herself that she's normal and not accept the suspicions of the judgemental people around her). And also suffers the unwanted attention from a wicked Fairy Queen and Fae Prince; a sinister mother-son duo who both serve, in classic Jungian and Freudian terms, as the Heroine's shadow and negative animus. She rashly wishes her adopted family away, only to be granted by the Fae Monarch to get her alone so as to make her their shared "companion" (make that what you will), but she rejects them and goes out into the Fae other world to find and rescue her family. And eventually embrace her inner strength and self-accept her identity. Part of this is based on my own experience growing up on the spectrum.

@rachellydiab

7 ай бұрын

Hi! What a story! What are you wiring it for- is it just a personal project?

@sammyvictors2603

7 ай бұрын

@@rachellydiab I'm hoping to get it published. As soon as I'm finished.

Bowie has an upsetting history with Uber young girls - most fans don't know about it, but he was as bad as the other rocker creeps of the day. At least he didn't take a minor on the road, marriage or guardianship, with the parents blessing like some did

@rachellydiab

6 ай бұрын

I have heard some of this here or there. It so disappointing - I just hope it didn't effect too many people.

I think there's a tinge of Persephone and Hades to all of it, honestly. Ancient stories made modern. Persephone was a child, too.

If you haven't studied psychology or filmmaking don't comment on things you know nothing about. Also, please get some professional help with your OBVIOUS unprocessed trauma.

@user-yg6jl6xb5k

4 ай бұрын

I'll also add.. this film was made IN THE 80s. Your opinion is rooted in your own privileged narrative. It was written by cis white men and released in 86 - clearly before you were born. If you have the audacity to comment on a 'period' piece, please reference it as such. You're taking your opinion completely out of context. As I previously stated, do your research. Your of ignorance and level of maturity is clearly apparent.

@grime_reaper

3 ай бұрын

It's not illegal to give opinions on movies buddy.

@reihino6347

2 ай бұрын

It’s commentary on a kids movie mate she’s not running an unregistered medical practice, get over yourself weirdo

@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396

2 ай бұрын

@@grime_reaperWell, maybe if you are a lady, people want to silence you? :/ I am not sure why everyone has to have a degree to discuss a topic. I have made short films…so maybe I could do film critiques? Or am I not “qualified”?