What Stunted JOE BUDDEN'S Growth Musically? Is He In Your Top 10?
In the early 2000s, Joe Budden was poised to be next up from the east coast. He jumped on the scene with a flow that was unique to the times and a hit song to go along with it in "Pump it up". He then introduced his fans to a more deeper side through his "Mood Musik" series, but none of it resulted in good enough sales at the time for record Label Def Jam to keep him around. He's had beefs with Jay-z, Drake, and a host of others along the way and never shied away from the competition. Many thought it was over at that point for Budden, who then found himself with a breath of fresh air in the group "Slaughterhouse", signed to Eminem. Maybe just Joe's luck, but things didn't workout there either and the group disbanded, leaving Joe with another tough decision. He then retired and began his most successful venture. Podcasting. What Stunted JOE BUDDEN'S Growth Musically? Is He In Your Top 10?
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Self-Sabotage is what stunted his growth.
@t-god2439
3 жыл бұрын
Cant even count how many bridges he burned
@imaginethat3026
3 жыл бұрын
facts
@officialsmokefrmabk6640
3 жыл бұрын
Nah not back then folks got shelved
@prophecy9521
3 жыл бұрын
@@officialsmokefrmabk6640 you from the Chi?
@officialsmokefrmabk6640
3 жыл бұрын
@@prophecy9521 from Illinois gotta hella relatives that live the city oit soith and out west i grew 35 minutes from the chi tf nobody even calls it that
You did Budden dirty wit dat thumbnail stunted 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@peace_of_mind_00
3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one who noticed that 😆 🤣 😂
@applejellypucci
3 жыл бұрын
that's why I clicked lmaooo
@tyota3334
2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@HikeWithIke
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
The one thing I've learned from your videos is that talent isn't enough you need discipline and self reflection... Blessings 💯💯
@mistermoneyman8899
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed💯
@Stoic-ds4so
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely 👌🏾💯
@charlita25
2 жыл бұрын
Fax 📠 💯
@amandadunn7678
2 жыл бұрын
Of course, talent isn't enough. You need the right personality, the right team behind you, a label that will help your career, hits, and not be an azzhole. Budden only had talent.
I can't even stunt Joe was a crazy wordsmith
@LanceVance81
3 жыл бұрын
The man has bars for days. No doubt about that
Budden is his stutned growth! He's arrogant and belives he smarter then the whole room.
@jsant8998
3 жыл бұрын
He keeps it real so he speaks his mind. I don't dude aggorant at all just a little too real and narcissistic to keep it 💯
@shonnonwootensr.7762
3 жыл бұрын
When keeping it real goes wrong
10 minutes, calm down, walk with me are CLASSICS on his debut!
@elizabethhart2434
3 жыл бұрын
Pray for me ,different love ,Angel in my life ,love for you ,more of me ,all of me, all good songs
@lonerebeI
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@themythrighthere9412
3 жыл бұрын
If you focused maaan ,would you plz rock widdit if you overstand yenooooooh!!!
@LeeMajiQ
3 жыл бұрын
Stand up nigga, Pray for me, calm down, OLS 1, 2, and 3.
@TheRealest127
3 жыл бұрын
BIG BIG FACTS!! 🔥
Lil Flip Stunted growth, plz.
@Jeffreynelius
3 жыл бұрын
🤞
@Buddafrm4th
3 жыл бұрын
He got ja ruled' by T.I.....the end
This is an easy one. Joe stunted his own growth. The label does play a part in his mainstream career but everything else is all him
@17thNO
Жыл бұрын
He is always beefin with people.
Easy, blame mid to late 2000s def jam 😂 lot of artists put on the shelf. Didn't help that joe was saying F u to the def jam label heads
@GeeMoney843
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Demsky83
26 күн бұрын
And put it in songs no less
Joe budden to me is one of the best rappers ever due to his word play and bars.
@tyrellseymour7724
3 жыл бұрын
True, definitely in the top 10,000
@thekillakid99
3 жыл бұрын
Top 100k
@tyrellseymour7724
3 жыл бұрын
@@thekillakid99 ikr mans a legend definitely in the top 100k its just too bad his career earnings and record sales couldnt top 100k
He's in my personal top 5 but you hit this one on the head. I love you're stuff from basketball to rap. Keep it up fam. 👊🏾
He should of done Mood Music 5. Joe back then was definitely in my top 20.
Joe was always dope but he had personal demons that got in his way plus Hov let's not forget lol 😆
As a fan of his podcast since day 1, paying attention to him since the early Slaughterhouse days... I was on his side always but theres been a pattern that I cannot ignore. Joe is toxic and does not see his wrong doing. If you have fires in every situation you are in you have to look at yourself.
@wallcity318
3 жыл бұрын
Fam i feel the exact same way, i really rootin for him in this last situation too but seeing how he did his friends was too much, that shit was mad lame
@check2000
3 жыл бұрын
I feel ya, many of us were fooled by Joe the master manipulator
@programSense
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is very entertaining but can’t seem to honor responsibilities.
Nothing wrong with being asked by your label for hits. Your deep stuff can be catchy and have hooks too.
Everyone who says self sabotage really don't understand the music industry or history. Jay z flipped def jam and his second album was shelved, this became the ring tone Era, or young money. This Era killed g unit, method man, almost all of NY. You were either young money or a plant. Then the next transition was to trap. There wasn't another successful lyricist until Kendrick Cole.
@LoveyoDance
3 жыл бұрын
True. From like 05' to 09' the music industry was in a period where Soulja Boy and rappers like him were super successful and then the 2010's change everything with upcoming rappers like Nipsey, Meek Mill, Mac Miller etc. I remember being in middle school when that transition happened. Good ol' times.
@danschuster5187
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was drill music then trap
Omg that Earl sweatshirt Joe Budden thumbnail is EVERYTHING!!!!!!!
Fans being trash and not respecting his genius is what stunted his growth. Tracks like 3 Sides to a Story and Pray For Me are legendary
@lonerebeI
3 жыл бұрын
True. The new mainstream fans who prefer dumbed-down art
@wallcity318
3 жыл бұрын
Semi true, alot of that shit is joe's fault plus he didnt like doing promo.
Watching stunted growth music in the mornings is a routine now... 😂🤷🏾♂️
Joe has a terrible ear for beats. He’s good at rapping but that’s it. He couldn’t pick good beats or make a good chorus and that was his main downfall musically
@azma775
2 жыл бұрын
Def fair
The thumbnail nail killing me bro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I loved Joey's mood music series.. and his dj clue desert storm mixtapes with Fab, Stack bundles,Paul Cain and Ransom. I had hoped his stint with slaughterhouse was gonna be legendary.. we got good music but not the commercial success he shouldve had
@NahshonWebb
2 жыл бұрын
That was the real slaughterhohse in hindsight.. just playing some old desert storm joints amd if clue had been a better exec that situation could turned out different. Prob stack and chinx would still be here too. But i digress. Joey still nice!
@vaughnalexander32
2 жыл бұрын
@@NahshonWebb the last joe budden battle I saw was when he was against Hitman holla i think. but joey lost that one. his flex freestyles are the truth tho
@shauncameron8390
Жыл бұрын
@@vaughnalexander32 It was Hollow da Don.
Its amazing that he managed to sandbag his own career. He was talented and even as a pill popper had great work ethic. But in that industry you work ethic wasn't enough back then. You also had to have business etiquette. Someone should have given Joe the 48 Laws of Power and told him to soak the game up.
That Earl Sweatshirt/Joe Budden parody makes me laugh every time 😂😂😂😂
Yo I like Joe but he can be messy at times I respect him. Yo I like both series musically and sports keep it up. Much love and respect
Joe budden Some Love Lost, All Love Lost and Rage & The Machine is some of his best work
@joenjuicecouplereactionsan4316
3 жыл бұрын
Also the mood muizk series 1-4 all classic
@t-god2439
3 жыл бұрын
Love that outro to rage in the machine
@theonewhoknocks593
3 жыл бұрын
Padded Room and Escape Route is what made me hooked.
That first freestyle reminds me of Def Jam: Fight for New York!
Ironically that 2nd defjam album was gonna be called “the growth”
@jensendenoyes2470
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@rapsanga1680
2 жыл бұрын
We got robbed, I waited bout 2 years for the growth
Man Joe had two chances solo and in slaughterhouse and both bridges burned to ashes that sounds like his fault
@JacquesSays
3 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't even get thru the intro before I commented but yeah
He bagged a lot of Dominican honeys. I would have gotten Santana pregnant too 😭
@asayles23
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂🤦🏾♂️ me too my nigga me too
@jasminemonroe5784
3 жыл бұрын
Santana has a lot of problems one of them is communication, which is necessary in a relationship be careful.
@asayles23
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasminemonroe5784 lmao I’m a horrible communicator also 🤦🏾♂️ communication is overrated
@shauncameron8390
Жыл бұрын
For a supposed cornball, Joe had no problem getting laid. Tahiri, Gloria Velez, Esther Baxter, etc.
Before I watch I will say I was a big Joe budden fan since he dropped Pump it up in what seemed like 2003 . I listened to everything, he would rip up beats on some mixtape shit and still had some good songs musically that expressed his emotions. Eventually his character and some incidents seemed to overpower his music and he himself seemed to take more of a "vlog" type of career after. Also his second album "The Growth" never dropping according to plan was kind of hindering but he still dropped mood music tapes and the music was good. He is a great rapper but he be wyling lol which is an entertainment factor in itself which he was able to capitalize on and keep his name very relevant to this day
The doc that Joe always wanted, you’re doing great work on this channel. You’ve earned a sub
Shawn bradley: jay you aint no athlete either.. Lol
@kennyk9579
3 жыл бұрын
I love Jay, but Joey killed him on that
@GeeMoney843
3 жыл бұрын
Nice
As far as structure, this is the best Stunt Growth video. Nice work.
Just bumped into this channel 10 minutes ago. After enjoying this 1st video checked your list. Subbed & Can't wait to go through it. Do Keith Murray too please. He's a perfect case for the stunted series. PS get a Twitter account.
Been waiting on this!!!!!!
What a great channel concept! Just found your videos and I have been binging. You are a good narrator. Joe is talented but I think his ego got in the way of a lot of his success but I also think his career happened exactly as it should have as he is brilliant at podcasting despite the issues JBP is having currently.
He signed to Def Jam at the worst possible time.
Still my fav rapper def my top 5 regardless of what the facts show bars def was there
Don't even need to watch the video to know what stunted Joe's growth. Joe has alienated himself from almost everyone he's been in contact with, over the years. Ransom, Wu-Tang, On Top Music, G Unit (Game, mostly), Desert Storm, Slaughterhouse, Eminem, Rory and Mal, his labels, etc. The list goes on and on. He's also had many many romantic relationships too that have ended terribly. This man's mouth constantly gets him in trouble. He's EXTREMELY TALENTED THOUGH, don't get it twisted. His Mood Muzik series is one of my favorites, and he's in my top-something, for sure.
Joe is in my Top 15. His music got me through a lot of dark days in my teens and I can’t ever short change him for that. When you talk about raw emotion and honesty in rap, his name is up there with the ‘Pac’s, Scarface’s, and even Drake to an extent. Nothing was off limits for Joe, and if you were going through it, it felt incredible to know a rapper with all these baddies around him was actually struggling with the same shit you were.
Stack bundles we need that for the culture
@krambone
3 жыл бұрын
Cliff G Jim Jones taking Stacks & Max swag and Stacks🕊 getting took from us stunted him 💪🏽
@301.allday
3 жыл бұрын
Stunt #1: Got shot *end of video*
Your opening monologue was *chef kisses*
Bruh....ever since Jay-Z became president for Dej Jam....how many rappers career got shelved!? But still Joe should continue pushing his music
@ChaseVercetti
3 жыл бұрын
he did... y’all just didn’t pay attention to it
@Modeek6
3 жыл бұрын
Im not jay z fan but what artist did he shelve? Cause rhianna blew up when he became president. Jeezy blew up when he became president. So because Joe couldn’t capitalize off his 1 hit. Thats jay fault?
@jameshamilton5947
3 жыл бұрын
@@Modeek6 LISTEN....KZread IS HERE AND U CAN DO UR RESEARCH
@Modeek6
3 жыл бұрын
@@jameshamilton5947 i can and once again. You didn’t answer the question which further proves thats just a bullshit excuse for y budden’s music to go the way he wanted it too. Once again. Buddy’s pen game was ridiculous. But hes the reason his career went to shit and he proves it by being a hater and bitter.
@EIMAHXperience
3 жыл бұрын
Jay z ruined rap
nah that thumbnail wild 😭
Joe was amazing on the radio, he was always a podcaster. One of the best morning show periods on hot 97
Listen To "Whatever It Takes" By Joe one of many great / Classic Tracks he made
@freddyp319
3 ай бұрын
After that, listen to all of me and more of me
Wow…that list of albums Def Jam released in 2002 & 2003 took me back! Good times.
Waited for those one n it was one of the best yet🤞
The streets stopped messing with Joe when he was getting beat up behind his mouth Raekwon rocked him and had him bleeding apologizing...he got his cousin snuffed by Ransom also behind his mouth both times he came out looking soft his street cred disappeared instantly...
@donguapisimo4222
3 жыл бұрын
FACTS. This does not get mentioned enough. He’s still running his mouth the same way.
Bro u killed it with the Joe look alike lol😂😂
The pump-it up guy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve wanted you do to this episode since you started the channel
@stuntedgrowthmusic
3 жыл бұрын
Got you.
If it still online there was an anonymous forum (2008-2009) which tells the inside story of how Jay-Z kept Joe held back.
I was a big JB back in the early 2000s when he on the mixtapes with the a-team. After his 1st album, i pretty much tuned him out.
Joe is an exceptional MC. Period. No one nor anything can take that away from him 💯
Joe will still body ya favorite rapper with bars....
I loved all his Mood Muzik Mixtapes
Mannn, I can’t tell you how hyped I was back in 2002 after hearing his mixtapes for this dude to blow up! I Always wondered what went wrong, thanks for this one bro👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
“Who got that money 💰 ?“ lol 😆
Joe got bars you can't deny that
That Brady Bunch line was hard
Great analogy 2:20 about Joe!
Mood Music 3 + 4 got me thru some tough times
I remember Raekwon put hands on him
There was a point where Joe Budden was my favorite rapper. I would argue with anyone that in his prime, no one was rapping better than him.
a full year later and im still laughing at that thumbnail.
Video is well done
lol 8:32 Memphis Bleek face in the picture
thanks for making this video ... buddens top 5
Joey is a legend regardless!
Good video
According to other members of Slaughterhouse, Budden *was* the primary reason the third album never got completed. He basically ghosted them halfway through recording it.
@MastaInferno
3 жыл бұрын
Super Fidddacts 💯💯🤦🏾♂️
@andrejamison2723
3 жыл бұрын
But that second album should have done much much better especially if you have four great rappers and Eminem is supposed to be that man so there could be some truth to it that the app wasn't getting promoted properly
@Yung813
3 жыл бұрын
He wanted them to do it on their own, not with shady. They didn't want to, he walked. It was always about ownership and getting paid more
I'm surprised you didn't mention that random beef with The Game on a mixtape though, the one on the beef series. Shit was weird how it started with them two lol.
Him being bitter over his career is what stunted his growth.if 2 hip hop heavyweights such as jay an em didn’t want to deal with him. Its him. Buddy is Great Mc. His pen game is nasty. But hes the reason his career was the way it way based of these standards.
@thematrix979
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
My Favorite Rapper ever.
Blood On The Wall, 1000 Faces, Anti, Insperable, Microphone, Focus, Some Niggaz are all fire Joe Budden tracks
Now he the one hip hop podcast wow 🗣️🗣️
That thumbnail 😂😂😂
That verse of REMEMBER THE TITANS though!
Aye bro.. U think paul cain was stunted.. If im not mistaken..he was wit fab and joe b street dreamin...if so ... Could u do a vid on him? Either way great vids on both channels!!!
@myklo4269
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Cain was stunted. He seems to like the “behind the scenes” lifestyle.
Definitely need a Crooked-i and Joel Ortiz stunted growth
What track are you using as your background music? It's fire🔥
Damnn Joe Budden one of the greatest lyricists.
He was born in 1980 but was 20 yo in 2002? How Sway?
I guess you can make a video on Earl Sweatshirt too
@LanceVance81
3 жыл бұрын
The only decent rapper in that group. Earl got stunted by association
@IncreaseMatter
3 жыл бұрын
Mannnnn Earl Sweatshirt is one of my favorite rappers!!! Tyler The Creator DID NOT lie when he said “he is the secret weapon of Odd Future.” That man’s bars, delivery, and flow is second to none!!!! I truly believe if he didn’t spend that time in that boarding school in Africa when OF was blowing up he would not be where he is now.. I’m predicting that if he does that video, that would undoubtedly be stunt number one!!! Doris is such an amazing album!!!
It’s also crazy that they released his debut album a week after Fast & Furious soundtrack that also held his hit single.
He had one hit song - Pumpnit up - Thats it
@lochofmceo
3 жыл бұрын
False
@3jimp
3 жыл бұрын
@@lochofmceo name another
@lochofmceo
3 жыл бұрын
@@3jimp fire, she don't put it down like you with Lil Wayne and NBA with French and Wiz Khalifa
K Koke (UK rapper previously got signed to Jay Z) or Canibus next please.. TIA!
Stunted Growth you should do Craig Mack! He never got a fair chance to blow up like Biggie!
Budden is 1 of my fave rappers
Joe Budden is like the MJ of burning bridges.
Earl sweatshirt is hilarious and pretty good rapper
Joe in my top #10 all day.. Eminem used those guys except Royce TBH Joe was right but he got classics mood music 2,3,4,4.5 Escape route Halfway House & Rage and the Machine all Classic albums IMO
how was he 20 in 02 if he was born in 1980? lol
The success of his podcast, I feel, is more attributed to his early presence on social media. Whether Joe saw the vision of what it would become or just narcissistic, Joe had a huge following online from him and Tahiry putting out content. That’s a big part of what kept Joe relevant. Most people didn’t even know he rapped which is insane, but true.
Yes, a day 1 JB rap fan. I missed his music at first, but have since moved on
dope artist. i brought his first album. i was 16. i tryd to write to him. a physical letter.
Mood Music….. All of em 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I like Joe's rhymes but he wuz to emotional 4 me. I like his 1st album tho but he's 2 worried about everybody else