I Google SMT battle music and get 2 billion results, atlus ain't slick

Hearing the Tokyo theme from SMT IV in Nocturne is so surreal, you have no idea.

@puzzle_boy

3 жыл бұрын

In a good or a bad way?

@harrisonwhaley7872

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly love having the songs for repeat play throughs

@mewtkeys

2 күн бұрын

Is it worth the $7.99?

Atlus: We don't gonna fix the low quality battle themes Also Atlus: BUY BATTLE THEMES IN HIGH QUALITY!

@jQuse

3 жыл бұрын

Atlus also pulled an Atlus and deleted the high quality uncompressed versions of those battle themes

@vanilla8956

3 жыл бұрын

@@jQuse I would have compassionately accepted sloppy AI upscales of them.

@jQuse

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanilla8956 that's what mods are for /s

@sky_shu

3 жыл бұрын

@@jQuse GL with that. It uses denuvo on steam :/

@jQuse

3 жыл бұрын

@@sky_shu Someone already has it working you can find it on KZread

This is my first SMT game, and while I'm not completely thrilled with how the port turned out, it's not enough to hinder my experience. The game is pretty great so far, but I'm definitely still waiting out on SMT V

@puffingpanda7003

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Mine will arrive tomorrow btw

@slithermayne2218

3 жыл бұрын

I dunno, price and monetization aside (which is still a significant fuck-up on their part and an extremely fair thing to have a problem with), I find the port itself to be pretty great. The Son's Oath buff is a neat QOL change, the voice acting is a nice touch, and most significantly, manual skill inheritance is just... good god, I can never go back, it makes such a huge difference. The only major non-monetary fuck-up I've noticed so far is the music being the same, which does really really suck and it's whack of them to not fix it, but at least it's not something that is actively worse than it is in the original, and there are already mods out that rectify it for PC (not that mods make it at all ok for Atlus to phone it in like that, just talking in regards to the actual in-game experience). All in all, other than maybe Hardtype which I have not played and cannot speak for, this seems to me like the best way to play Nocturne now, assuming you don't have a problem with dropping $50 USD on an almost 20 year old game (which again, totally fair, it's a bullshit amount of money for them to be charging for this). EDIT: Worth noting that I am solely speaking on the PC version. I have heard some talk about performance issues for the Switch version, I haven't played or seen that version myself so I'm unable to speak on that.

@puzzle_boy

3 жыл бұрын

@@slithermayne2218 I'm playing the Switch one. At least on handheld mode I haven't got any issues. Sometimes fps dropped when the game begins a random battle but no thing that ruin the experience, actually.

@TheDeathOfLucifer

3 жыл бұрын

@@slithermayne2218 monetization? I haven't been following up about this release though I love this game

The Dante DLC costs as much as getting the whole game on PS3 so I'm starting to think I shouldn't pick up the re-release, waiting to see what the retail release comes with in my region because P5S came with the digital deluxe content with the physical edition.

@jamessicard1705

3 жыл бұрын

Its probably because Capcom owns the character

@Phones_777

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamessicard1705 that and prob to recoup some costs of Reuben Langdon's VA work

@harrisonwhaley7872

2 жыл бұрын

Licensing fees will be our downfall

I wish they added a harder difficulty mode or a new challenge dungeon with amped up enemies (I'd even take reused encounters with higher stats) or something like that as well as, or even instead of, the extra convenience DLCs - people have been breaking this game for well over a decade now, this would have added a whole lot more value than pretty much anything else.

@th3n0th1ng5

3 жыл бұрын

Something like Margaret Quests in P3P?

@HansAlRachid

3 жыл бұрын

@@th3n0th1ng5 Oh hell yeah, I'd love that. You could even imitate that game's structure with some incarnation of Stephen testing your strength with fights against extra powerful demons or the like.

They should have used the Makai overworld theme instead of the regular Tokyo Millenium overworld for the SMT II music pack. I'm not saying the track is bad (in fact I like it very much), but the Makai theme is way more fitting. I mean, they even chose the post-nuke Tokyo instead of the regular overworld map for the SMT 1 pack.

@BitchChill

3 жыл бұрын

Weeb

@Roberto-mm4gr

3 жыл бұрын

They also didn’t use the Blasted Tokyo theme when it looks very similar to this game’s Toyko :/

@Cinko420

3 жыл бұрын

@@BitchChill Your profile picture is Aigis, you ain’t slick!

@BitchChill

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cinko420 She's not an anime character

i would argue the dlc grinding maps are better since you can control how much to give yourself in terms of macca and exp. Still garbage dlc practices

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

least i's not a microtransaction. pay 50 cents for 1000 exp! keep doing it fucker! oh, new game, well, you don't have the 20k you spent 10 dollars on. nah. instead they give you access to an exp/macca farm spot you can use whenever you want, however you want.

@YThdhs

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeman27534 kinda still is

@palantiri6590

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeman27534 DLC and Micro transactions are the same thing fundamentally.

@jaimeantonioolaguezchirino5805

3 жыл бұрын

This shit is the reason the dancing games bombed.

@user-gu3nd7si5m

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaimeantonioolaguezchirino5805 at least this time it isnt half of the game's content getting locked away behind a paywall.

if only they had "deicide" for the kagutsuchi fight and "one who stands against god" for the lucifer fight in the smtiv apocalypse pack ):

@nichoudha

3 жыл бұрын

One Who Stands Against God wouldn't fit the Lucifer fight though.

@fallingrequiem699

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I would have preferred Fierce Battle for the Lucifer fight, would have fit perfectly

IDK how I feel about DLC for a port of an old game where the devs didn't even do anything to remaster this game.

I sincerely thought when they said “Center of the Conception”, that they’d do an original area similar to the Tower of Kagutsuchi with a bit of the Labirinth of Amala. But the Hospital and Yoyogi Park but it looks worse?? Come on Atlus.

3:08 Considering that there's outcry whenever someone suggests difficulty options in a Fromsoftware game, I'd say there's plenty of people who'd take offense seeing a "Merciful" difficulty in an infamously difficult JRPG.

@zombyjano

3 жыл бұрын

*nods head in elitist* But really, if people only want to go through the game for the story and not the gameplay, why not just watch a let's play? Saves you the money. Or if you want an easier SMT, play Persona.

@BALDFURY69

3 жыл бұрын

@@zombyjano why not just let people have an easy option? Don't see the issue if it has 0 impact on the OG difficulty.

@always_serpico

3 жыл бұрын

@@BALDFURY69 When you don’t have much going on in your life, you take pride in meaningless things. Like finishing a difficult game. You’re already at rock bottom, might as well try to make people feel bad for just wanting a casual experience.

@yoster39

3 жыл бұрын

When you have to work 8 hours a day 6 days a week you don't have time to deal with stupidly high amounts of griding/chances to mess up your character progression that would render the game semi impossible, forcing a new game to not lose that skill you didn't realize was actually good. And watching a playtrough isn't the same thing: you have no say in what happens as it's just a recording, so if you liked the idea to go for an ending but the player chose not to... Well there goes any sort of immersion you had. A lower difficulty level also means you could actually use lower tier demons instead of trying to get the typical endgame stuff. It's generally a good idea, Idk how well implemented it is though

@LesoTheGamerboy

3 жыл бұрын

I have it downloaded but i will never use it, unless i want to get the achievement for mastering all magatama once i have finish the game, also once i defeated matador i saved and went to a previous save and tested how big of a joke merciful was. And boi is it a fucking joke. I defeated him in like 2 party turns just using normal attacks and not a single one missed even through red capote. Now i understand that not everyone likes a challenge or has time to grind but still, i feel insulted that you can defeat matador in 2 party turns pressing only triangle but if thats how you wanna play then so be it, i just hope that you atleast try normal mode first and if thats too hard then switch to merciful because i would imagine if you can just press triangle for the whole game it would become boring and tedious.

The DLC not being part of the game and on disc is ridiculous and then charging $20 more for the digital (only) deluxe and giving 4 days early access is just shady as shit. Screams lazy port cash grab. I mean, hell, EA over here giving us 3 remastered games with all DLC (minus pinnacle station) and a massive face lift. I love Atlus games and SMT/Persona are my favorite series but this release just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

it kinda is - this isn't really 'let's get kids into smt now that persona 5 has done really well' this is more like 'smt 5 is coming out soon - let's advertise it some with smt 3' they've just also kinda gotten greedy and have been doing weird shit lately with their games - persona 3, 4, 5 having two releases each (at least), doing meh spinoff titles selling on the fandom's love, etc. hell, i don't evne mind the exp/macca dlc, it's 10 dollars for a cosmetic character change and musc packs that seems really kinda funky to me.

Yeah, I can't really imagine why Atlus still thinks paid map DLCs are a good idea when it was shown to be a better idea when it was implemented into the game with TMS:E. I was hoping it would be a sign that going forward their games would have it available without having to pay, but it seems that it's not the case at least for now. Maybe with SMT5?

@pizzatime9261

3 жыл бұрын

Nocturne is way more popular than TMS among Atlus fans so they knew they could capitalize on it.

@1993StrangeBoy

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, Atlus will probably go really overboard with SMTV DLCs, not only with the grind DLCs but they'll probably cut fights/demons/history content from the game to sell them as DLC later, like they did with SMTIV

@darkhorse744

3 жыл бұрын

@@1993StrangeBoy I'm pretty sure they got a lot of shit for doing that in IV, also Dante isn't in base game, because ATLUS doesn't wanna give royalties to Capcom.

@LimitBreakr424

2 жыл бұрын

@@1993StrangeBoy yo you called it

Fuck dude I'm buying the music dlc just for the Tokyo music from smt 4 I absolutely love that track

Holy shit the YT time stamps!! You are amazing!!

The fact that a remake has dlc is a disgusting practice

@reivunrantington9425

3 жыл бұрын

Remaster. A remake is something entirely different. You're right about the dlc though. Only thing that makes sense is Dante due to the license stuff

I feel like they put the least possible amount of effort into both the game and DLC. Like, it's not as popular as Persona, yea, but...it just feels like a massive fucking cash grab. Which makes me worried for SMTV coming out this year or next.

@shinyanakagawa8241

3 жыл бұрын

It's probably a cash grab but they released it after considering the consumer/fan survey they gathered last year. They actually answered fans' wish but missing some of the point in the process.

@kyotheman69

3 жыл бұрын

especially when original PS2 game had Dante, few other stuff, Sega just greedy

@tonyknighton4019

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyotheman69 Nah. This is all Atlus.

@darkhorse744

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyotheman69 If ATLUS puts Dante into the base game, they'd have to pay royalties to Capcom.

@shakyor875

3 жыл бұрын

P4G was in pretty much the same state, expensive, pretty much no new stuff and quite a few bugs. It's not about SMT, it's about atlus just not giving a shit about rereleasing stuff. It is just a cash grab. I really wish they someday rerelease SMT4 with 3D models on pc and switch, but seeing these rereleases they are doing now, i have no hope at all.

Easy answer: Don't Buy full price. Wait for it to go on sale with Full DLC package and Buy it's when it's cheaper.

@LesoTheGamerboy

3 жыл бұрын

I bought it at full price and im having a blast playing it. But i gotta admit 50$ for a (slightly) remastered ps2 game is too much, only reason i bought it was because i was 99% certain i was going to like it because i loved persona 5 and 4 and wanted a challenge. If i had any doubts whether i was going to like it i would have waited it for to go on sale. Also i didnt buy the dlc because shortly put none of them add anything meaningful and i didnt want to spend like extra 20$ for an already overpriced game.

A small note is you CAN use the Maniac version for new game plus if you do Ridou first, you don't need to start a whole new playthrough.

thank you for making this :)

Personally, I think the DLC's are only good if you're planning on doing multiple playthroughs. The DLC maps and the Merciful difficulty are designed to speed up the grinding process of multiple playthroughs while the Maniax pack and BGM pack are supposed to slightly vary things up.

This is really useful content bud thank you!

@KGhaleon

2 жыл бұрын

Except for where he said he didn't really play much of the Dante/Raidou dlc, which defeats the point of the video. What am I supposed to take away from that?

the map dlcs are not really meant to be bonus maps, with content and whatnot. they're meant to be essentially item farms, for whatever item the dlc map is supposed to get, that you can just teleport to. they're not bonus content, it's just this weird sort of dlc addon that lets you farm those items as much as you want, like the 3ds smt 4 titles had. why is it there? for a bonus on hard modes, basically. not everyone wants to play the whole fucking game on merciful, like you kept saying, but the occasional need for an exp or money spike does come up - this is essentially a dlc cheat code of sorts. lol "this is the first time a console smt had a map dlc" this is the first console smt since they started doing it. hell, it's the first console smt in almost two decades.

@inxine

2 жыл бұрын

exactly this. some people are just really ignorant and talk weird stuff

@leeman27534

2 жыл бұрын

@@inxine to be faaaaaaiiiiirrrr i kinda understand it. if they're sort of new to the recent changes with some of the 3ds titles having this kind of dlc, they're not exactly off the mark assuming they might've tacked on some shallow content expansion as paid dlc for money - they tacked on a cheap leveling and rare loot grind for money, after all. but yeah, it's the internet. a lot of people are really ignorant and communicating like this taking seconds can make some people more likely to leap at the first conclusion, even if it's wrong. but someone making a vid like this (if that was who was making those kind of claims, been a while) should've done a little more research, maybe. "this is the first time a console smt had a map dlc" seems to make it seem like they knew about the handheld dlcs, but was still kinda idotically presumptuous given we haven't had console smt since we've had systems even capable of dlc...

Thanks for this video. I held out on the digital deluxe because the only one I was intirigued by was the BGM DLC and it looks like I’ll just be picking that single pack up once the physical copy comes tomorrow

So the music DLC nails the SMT4 transition from "Lost as shit in Tokyo with no clue where I am" to "holy fuck I just ganked by a pack of smirking Nues there goes half my party". I love it. My only complaint is the SMT1 battle theme should've been the PS1 version. The extra bass just makes that theme.

I have a question, can you use this music from the beginning of the game ?

The music DLC does remind me of one thing I always felt other games had over Nocturne: the tense "Encounter" music that plays before a battle actually starts, when you're given a chance to decide between negotiating, running, or attacking

Thank you for making this. I’ll probably get the Daunte dlc and the music pack for a second play through. I’ve never played SMT III and want to fall in love with its music too

*Other Remastered games putting all their DLC in at a decent price* Atlus: *Keeps DLC separate and charges full price for PS2 game*

First time SMT player after really enjoying Persona 5 and 4 Golden. I’m going to wait for a sale and probably going to play on merciful mode. I honestly prefer easier RPG’s so I don’t really mind the unbalanced gameplay.

@louvi5893

3 жыл бұрын

I personally think that you should only use merciful mode if you're really having trouble or want to grind since it's so easy you can play it without demons but of course it's your choice

@mattxstarx

3 жыл бұрын

i always felt like the difficulty in the past mostly came from people never playing an SMT style game before. I think if you have gone through p4 or p5 already, then you are probably a lot better than you think. but yeah, although i already have this pre-ordered, i can still justify in my mind why this game should have been launched at a slightly cheaper price.

@louvi5893

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattxstarx yeah you'll be good

@zyvan3179

3 жыл бұрын

Dont start on merciful mode. This game is all about its gameplay. If you are there for the story you will be disappointed. Theres no reason to play this game except for the gameplay and merciful mode takes that away. Yes there is somewhat of a story but it's not front and center. Nothing like the Persona games

@RayquazaNZ

3 жыл бұрын

Hey are you the reddit guy

BUYING MUSIC PACK INSTANTLY! although i wouldn't mind a playthrough without it first since i'm not familiar with all of Nocturne's themes. i'll throw any amount of money to hear SMT 4 overworld theme lol.

@seth7726

3 жыл бұрын

This is what I'd recommend as Nocturne has a ton of battle themes and the World map music is amazing as usual (seriously they always manage to make the overworld themes something worth to remember and Nocturne has 3 different variations!).

Question does the Maniax DLC "unfix" Mot? as in, will Mot go back to spamming beast eye?

I wanted Maniax and Music pack so I just bought the digital deluxe edition, only paying a few more dollars to play a few days early

Is there no over world map song for SMT 1? Lol i don’t hear it when you play it lol

Maybe the dante pack but definitely the smt music pack for that smt iv music

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go play Nocturne on my PS2

@awesomehazimex7410

3 жыл бұрын

*PS2 start up noises*

@Anacone

3 жыл бұрын

I'll play Nocturne on my Ps3.

Do the maps have hard bosses, or is it just to farm xp/money items? I bought them thinking they would be lore, I'm running through hospital & doors keep saying there's a more powerful foe, but there hasn't been(I intend to throw away these xp items once I leave)

@SpencerPressly

2 жыл бұрын

No bosses just farms

@drowningin

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly what the Heck? So lame

Thanks for the video! I have a question for you that might help others as well: For the battle themes dlc, are they just for the battles in the open world sections and in dungeons as well? Thanks!!

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

The tracks are unfortunately only for the overworld and when you were in battles from the overworld.

@TheBigFrank

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly Oh wow, like you said, much better in Strikers... I will skip in that case! Thanks for the reply! :D

I know Dante being DLC seems weird, but if I may play Lucifer's advocate for a moment, consider that they: A: Atlas had to get the licensing rights from Capcom simply to feature him again, which costs money. B: They had to pay his VA's to come in and record for the new voice acting. So it makes sense they'd want to use the Dante DLC to make back the money they spent for that. Also, consider that it's probably easier to make a guest character DLC, since Atlus then only has to share profits with Capcom from the DLC pack instead of the full game.

Is it true that the music dlc only plays in the overworld? So it wont play in dungeons and stuff??

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

True. Overworld exploring and overworld battles only

Does the Deonte dlc actually add any content or is it basically a $10 cosmetic? It kinda feels like this all should have been included in the remaster, haha.

@stewartcrislip7274

11 ай бұрын

It's a cosmetic

I looked into it and the version with Raidou was actually the third and final updated release of this game for the PS2 in Japan (we got the second one in the states), so without the dlc this is technically a remaster of the most recent version of the game. This makes Atlus a bit more forgivable for having Dante as dlc only.

Do they really feel the need to split them into DLCs?

No one watches your videos despite their quality... why?

@tomsantos9448

3 жыл бұрын

16k views is nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of people watching

I figure I'm probably gonna pick up Maniax just cause I'm a DMC fan and experiencing the "Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry" is probably worth it. I was thinking about getting the music pack. Really sucks it's only a handful of tracks from each game though. I'll have to decide on if that's worth it.

I pre-ordered the Digital Deluxe version so I got everything in a bundle! I got to play the game earlier and even got the DLC that let's you play the game with Dante replacing Raiden!

I’ve already beaten this game and got the true demon ending but I might buy the bgm pack and play through it again for another ending. This isn’t even my favorite smt but I just wanna play it again for some reason. I’ll probably also buy the Dante dlc cause why not

4:14 is when he started talking about the map pack

For Australians: Dante: $15 Grind maps: $12 Music: $12

I actually like the xp and macca packs. I use the xp on only my demons so that if I need a certain skill a few levels off, I can just get it faster. The money dlc seems good for hard mode though as I've been playing ps2 Nocturne and I'm basically out of money. I'm currently grinding pixies to get enough items that I don't have to worry about healing fees

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

yeah. he keeps saying "it's pointless if you play on merciful" as if everyone wants to play on merciful, and people in hard can't want a place to quickly get more macca, or get a level to get a specific demon a little faster or something. also, seems to have knowledge of how it's done on smt 4, still acts like this is supposed to be additional content areas that just don't work, instead of explicitly exp.macca farm locales so of course they're low effort.

@Charagodslayer666

3 жыл бұрын

It's like how smt 4/apocalypse did it. And that's not really a bad thing

So I'm a bit confused, what's the difference between the Maniax and the regular game, besides Dante

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

nothing. the original maniax version added the depths of amala and dante, the japanese version had raidou. this game has the depths of amala stuff and raidou - you're paying 10 bucks for a character swap.

@The_Pikaboi

3 жыл бұрын

The only difference is that Raidou is swapped for Dante. I assume its DLC due to capcom

Probably just get the music pack because smt music is awesome. Passing on everything else. Maybe maniacs for second playthrough

So they added merciful difficulty but not merciless/demi-fiend's? seems this version wont offer any additional challenge for those who beat the original game on hard difficulty and adding couple of extra maps wont be an actual reason at least for me to buy the game for $49.99 USD+ that DLC cost so i can have the same experience with enhanced graphics and upscaling. A recommendation for those who want to play so you can encounter Raidou instead of Dante ;play Maniax chronicle edition English patched version.

Man hearing IVA's Large Map just put a goofy grin in my face. I love that game so fucking much. Not the biggest fan of battle F1, but it's still a bop

I don’t give a FUCK, I love Nocturne, don’t care for Dante, getting that BGM pack. I’M SO EXCITED IT’S ALMOST HERE!!!!

I want Dante simply because Devil May Cry remixes don't fit Raidou at all lmao

Does the battle theme change throughout the entire game, or just in the overworld?

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

It is the same battle theme in normal battles too

@superiorgamedude

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly Oh wow, I thought it only played in the overworld battles. This is actually way better.

@superiorgamedude

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly Well, nvm. That was a total lie.

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

@@superiorgamedude ah my bad. I misread this. Yeah it’s all battles in the over world only which is a real bummer sorry for the confusion

@superiorgamedude

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly Ah no prob, I was just being an asshole. Everyone makes mistakes.

About the Merciful option it exists if you want to be quicker on your grinding, heck I had to use it to grind a Jikokuten and a Oberon to get a triple element Titania

It’s on sale rn! Switch Digital Deluxe is $48.99

The level up maps are obviously for trophy hunters since there’s one for hard mode so they plat the game in one playthrough without a hassle.

3:09 Hey that's me. It would be terrible to have that jest in my menu. I use the maps dlc tho because that way I can build demons with the skills I want easier. It doesn't make the game easier but they are giving me the chance to train demons or get some of them saving my time. I use it a lot. Farming grimoires for the demons to learn all their skills to be fuse at their best. And farming expensive statues to buy demons in the compendium and... Some items like magatama faster. They're just time-savers. Especially because I'm playing on hard. I'd love to run overworld with SMT4 music. I'll purchase that bgm Pack... Someday

Is the DLC music compressed??

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

Hilariously no

Merciful- I think Normal difficulty is fine, but it’s free so why not. Maniax- Classic western experience, I understand having to pay for it because of licensing. Map Pack- The maps themselves aren’t that insane, but a way to easily farm XP and Money is insane for a game like Nocturne. Whether it’s worth it is up in the air, but I got the Deluxe Edition so I got this anyways. Legacy- Worth it just for the SMT IV music imo

Should i start playing the normal story or should i play the maniax version ?

@SpencerPressly

Ай бұрын

Totally up to if you wanna see raidou or Dante no preferred first version

@unknown97428

Ай бұрын

@SpencerPressly also I'm confused on the demi fiend dlc

I am going to buy it on the switch, even though I admit it’s a very barebones hd remaster. I believe it will flop sales wise in the west.

@prasunkumar117

3 жыл бұрын

I hope it flops. Their shitty practices shouldn't be encouraged.

I think I might pick up the Dante pack, but I don't think I'll touch anything else.

I’d say to just get the Dante dlc and don’t use the cheat dlc. You won’t be able to boast about Nocturne, because the game is supposed to be hard

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

eh, i like the cheat dlc (spending like 3 hours in a hallway to get two levels, or like six fights in a bonus area - it's just a grind saver, that's all, if used responsibly), and not paying 10 bucks for fucking dante. also beat it on hard back on the ps2.

@Charagodslayer666

3 жыл бұрын

It's not cheating. For though of us who doesn't want to spend hours grinding up a demon for all its skills or whatever it's helpful

You say the map packs are pointless, but you haven't met players like me, who want to cut down on end game money/exp grinding but feel morally offended by the idea of ever turning our game to merciful. That seems worth the price of a double cheeseburger meal.

@Animekirk

3 жыл бұрын

@@nichoudha I like to buy the magatama as soon as they become available. "Need" doesnt matter. And after level 90 or so, even the final dungeon takes forever to gain 1 level. So faster exp is welcome in that case.

@kg888

3 жыл бұрын

I probably use the level grind/macca grind after gaining Dante or radou. Towards the end is a pain to level, they could of atleast add a high level map. But oh well

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

he's kinda an idiot, seems to understand their point in smt 4, yet keeps talking about these map packs like they're supposed to be content but they're not (and they're not supposed to be content, they're small bonus areas to get extra exp/money) and then keeps going on about them being pointless if you're playing on merciful, which not everyone's going to be doing...

@Animekirk

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeman27534 yeah. The way I've been using them is to help my demons learn extra skills before fusing them. I want the skills but I dont want to over level the demi-fiend. If I was on merciful, demi-fiend would be getting 3x exp and become massively overleveled which would allow me to fuse way higher level demons. I dont want that. By using the exp dlc I can selectively choose who to level so I can get the skills for my demons while keeping demi-fiend lower level.

@tme98

3 жыл бұрын

@@Animekirk yeah but some of those late deep skills is deep skills for a reason.. they are way too strong for early. You shouldn’t have war cry before matador battle

Yup

Completely agree why a difficulty settings is a download? It should have been on the NA release

is the lvl cap for the remaster still 255

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

I'll play on hard and buy all dlcs

@mattxstarx

3 жыл бұрын

my man

@zyvan3179

3 жыл бұрын

As record scratch intended

Why in gods name is a remaster of a 2003 game getting separate dlc. I cant recall a single remaster where the extra content/dlc WASNT included.

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

because most remasters with dlc, had dlc the first time around. the 2003 game never had dlc, so there's no 'including all the content the original had available' sort of mindset - the dlc is mostly new (dante's not, but t's a shitty dlc anyway) this is one of the only games to release as a remaster with dlc, when the original didn't have any. also, atlus is kinda scummy with that lately.

Probably gonna buy the map pack solely for near the end when most fusions require high 80’s or low 90’s for fusions and Metatron won’t be as much as a hassle. Really wish they had dlc that let you select the skills transferred upon fusion

@yagami999913

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it already possible to choose wich skills to transfer in the remaster ?

@CirnoTheStrongest999

3 жыл бұрын

press triangle in the screen that shows what demon you're about to get from fusion

@isaacpimentel6482

3 жыл бұрын

@@yagami999913 honestly must’ve glanced over that. I only beat it on ps2 but early reviews brought up how you couldn’t select skills upon fusion so maybe it changed before I made my comment

Boss rush mode?

i was really hoping to hear the smt imagine demifiend theme in the music pack :

well the deluxe edition that comes with all the dlc and the game in one package for $69 allows you to play the game early so i just bought that even if i didnt even really care that much about any of the dlc.

I feel like the dlc dungeons are modified map packs, I actually like em

Tbh I feel like a remaster of a old game should have all the stuff included in it.

3:38... My best guess is that it was done that way so that someone who hasn't played the game before doesn't go in, play on the easiest difficulty and then go "I don't get why everyone was complaining about how hard SMT was, the easy setting is way too easy" by having it as free DLC it points out "this is not the way the original game was, if you are playing on this difficulty it was not anything like how the original game from nearly 20 years ago really was". I find easy way way too easy, normal to be challenging but fair, and hard to be disrespecting of what limited time I have to play. It is a difficulty I would have (and did) play as a kid, but when I only have so much time to play going 30 minutes through a dungeon to only end up getting wombo combod by the AI hitting every elemental weakness just steps away from the save marker killing the team in a single shot as a lot less enjoyable than when I had all the free time in the world. My biggest gripe with the game is that "New Game" is the original copy of the game missing a ton of bosses and stuff and for us in the west if we want to get the same experience we got as a kid we need to select "New Game Chaotix or Chronicle" depending on if you want the Dante or other skin, I didn't realize till 6 hours in "hey there should have been a boss here what is going on? oh I had to select one of the DLCs if I wanted the content I remember playing in the west as a kid and selecting new game has a lot of content that was in the western version not there". I didn't realize that the version I played as a kid was a directors cut until after getting 6 hours into the remake. Luckily with easy mode I can easily get back to were I was in like 2 hours and then turn back up the difficulty, but still would have been nice to know that "New Game" would not be the classic version I remember but rather the classic version only in Japan missing a lot of bosses and stuff.

I want to buy the remastered ost dlc that replaces the current music with the soundtrack version.

I think it’s to fudge numbers on DLC, maybe for the merciful difficulty. Although, I can’t really tell you why.

I fight bosses on normal and grind on merciless. Like i legit tried to play on normal for everything, but it took much longer to lv up and i was always lost. Ik that's how the game was meant to be played, but i really just wanna be able to progress hahaha.

I would assume Merciful is a DLC so that developers try not to force people too much into it. Part of the charm of the game and its atmosphère comes from its difficulty. It also could be some weird technical reason as well. Altus has a history of weird DLC/patch and overpriced products.

Ya know which DLC i would've even payed 20 bucks for. A button that allows you to wait for a specific Kagutshuchi time, i've wasted so much time casting the no enemy spell and running in circles for mystical chests. What a horrid experience.

I decided to play the game at Merciful difficulty because I am new to the series.

Making me pay for Dante like this. Fuckin disgusting... welp, time to crack open the wallet.

this is why you wait for a steam sale ;) i just got the base game with all the dlc for £27.. on sale the base game with no dlc was £26 so it was a no brainer ;D

Exactly how easy would you say Merciful mode is? I want to reccomend this game to a friend who's never played a megaten game outside of revelations Persona more than a decade ago, but I'm worried normal could be too hard whereas merciful could be way too easy.

@louvi5893

3 жыл бұрын

If they were able to handle ps1 persona then they have the patience to beat nocturne on normal. Anyway merciful is so easy that you can beat the game with no demons and just pressing the auto button.

@zyvan3179

3 жыл бұрын

Merciful is literally baby mode. Dont do it or recommend it. I've told a lot of people this but this game is very gameplay focused and if you play on merciful it strips away any and all interesting gameplay and just makes you press one button. Besides Nocturne isnt even that hard even on hard mode.

@md-fi7zt

3 жыл бұрын

Ive heard you can pretty easily auto matador with merciful, so its really down to how much time your friend wants to put into it and how much patience he has. Though im sure normal would be fine for most new players.

I've never played nocturne should I have my first experience the ps4 version or the ps2 version. Those are the only ways I can play it.

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

Ps4 whenever you feel the price is right for you

So u didn’t show footage of the dlc. But just talked about it

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

dante is far into the game, he DID show him wandering aorund the map packs (they're exp items/macca farms, not extra contet) and he even had the music in the later half of the video.

I like merciful as a download because I don't like that you can change the difficulty anytime in the options because you can be playing on hard then just switch to merciful and get 3x exp and macca and then switch back and say you passed the game on hard or switch when you get stuck on a boss. I would play on hard but the fact that you can change anytime ruins the idea of passing it on hard and being able to challenge your friends and say you did it. In simple takes away the bragging rights and competing against your friends and there is no way to know if they just switched to merciful and cheated so it not being there and only seeing normal and hard you will not have to question if merciful was used if you ever downloaded it. Hope that made sense.

Bruh never play smt nocturne before but even I won't touch merciful mode with a 10ft pole

@brotbrotsen1100

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah after seeing this pretty much all the DLCs are stupid.

Only one needed is dante but i still got all because i whaled and wanted to play it now

Gonna go Hardest-mode, Raidou version, grinding like the good ol' days. The DLC's make it to easy imo, just like with SMT4. Just gotta man the fuck up and feel the ABSOLUTE HATE for this game screwing you over to really come to love it like us old heads, again, imo. Try it, it's fun to figure stuff out and beat that scumbag that keeps beating you with better skills, fuse some demons and get to clapping cheeks. It's what made me love the game years ago on PS2 so please, don't let the internet scare you about difficulty lol. I love this goddamn (no pun, promise!) game and you guys should too!

Obvious solution is to grab the DLCs while they are on sale. SMT3 remastered is like $20 right now during the holidays so I imagine you'll pay closer to $30 with all the DLCs.

Dante. Buy dante. Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series. Merciful is kinda whatever either way. Also SMT music is banger, so you can't go wrong with it if you really want to shove your money at Atlus for it. That is all.

I think it's a licensing thing with the Dante dlc

Are you telling me if I don't buy the dlc dante won't be in the game?

@SpencerPressly

3 жыл бұрын

Correct

@magnaesca165

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerPressly thanks, another thing I've been wondering, is atlus paying capcom royalty because dante is in the game?