Saying feathered dinosaurs aren't scary is like saying tigers or bears aren't scary because they're covered in fur.

@cazterjamessantos3652

Жыл бұрын

certified furry moment

@JustMisterFox

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a tiger with crocodile scales. That sounds much creepier to me. I think it's what we associate with feathers or fur that makes them scarier. Ask an average Joe to think of a feathered animal. They'll probably think of a bird, likely a cardinal or chickadee or some common bird. Animal with fur? A house cat or dog. Scales? Lots of people don't have scaly pets, so they'll think about more exotic creatures that they'd probably see in a zoo like a crocodile or komodo dragon. It's a social conditioning thing.

@jacobcox4565

Жыл бұрын

@@JustMisterFox Yeah, a lot of people think about giant Chickens when they hear about feathered dinosaurs, when they really should be thinking about giant Cassowaries or Eagles with teeth and long tails.

@lufsolitaire5351

Жыл бұрын

I welcome those who say feathers aren’t scary to jump into the ring unarmed against an emu, ostrich, or cassowary. You’re 100% off your gourd if think just because those birds have feathers or are mostly herbivorous/insectivores that they won’t gut-shot you in 5 seconds with those massive foot talons. Dinosaurs wouldn’t of been that much different.

@rosangelamariapessoa5852

Жыл бұрын

​@@JustMisterFox I just imagined it, it doesn't make a tiger any scarier, at all.

The problem is not that the dinosaurs are inaccurate, it's that they are so cliche and unoriginal

@BigBrotherMateyka

10 ай бұрын

This. There's hardly any distinction among any of the species debuting in new film releases. They're all depicted as hyperaggressive, hyperviolent monsters that attack anything on sight.

@bobkane432

10 ай бұрын

@@BigBrotherMateyka What movies are these clips from m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWxqk5R_gZC0hrw.html

@Charles-7

8 ай бұрын

@@BigBrotherMateyka and nature doesn't allow this, as being that aggressive will waste energy in the long run.

@lonzoformvp5078

3 ай бұрын

they're also downright ugly. Like give them some color

The irony is Jurassic Park tried to open the public's eyes to dinosaur inaccuracies in modern media at the time, with new more active depictions of dinosaurs, only to just replace those inaccuracies with new ones that current modern media refuses to let go because they don't really care about dinosaurs and their nostalgia for what essentially boil down to movie monsters is more important to them than the actual animals and scientific advancement. Jurassic World Dominion is probably going to be the last "dinosaur" movie I will ever see as I am just too tired of all this. I still love _real_ dinosaurs and paleontology but I have been disappointed too many times and have become apathetic to dinosaur media.

@Kingonitt

Жыл бұрын

Let me happily tell you about prehistoric planet season 2!

@reallycantthinkofausername487

Жыл бұрын

Prehistoric Planet 2 babyyyyyy

@supertrike5893

Жыл бұрын

And Forgotten bloodlines hopefully

@AtrociCollector

Жыл бұрын

How are you disappointed by some fictional cgi/animatronic dinosaurs

@therecombinant6215

Жыл бұрын

Are you a fan of how comic book characters are depicted in films? Or a book series that had a terrible adaptation. Because the show writers just do not care about the source material or even the spirit of the source material? Well, apply that to paleontology or even biology. Real world animals that are not accurately depicted. It’s a similar frustration.

The v Rex and other dinosaurs in King Kong are a good example of inaccurate dinosaurs working in a film. They don’t ruin the portrayal of any real life dinosaurs. As they’re completely fictionally created.

@speedracer2008

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention they also have unique designs.

@Bagelgeuse

Жыл бұрын

​@@speedracer2008And some science behind their appearances as well.

@themanofshadows

Жыл бұрын

Most people seem to think that realism = better, but this isn’t the case. Most movies work well by exaggerating elements and portrayals of things or characters, especially if they’re meant to be fictional. Constraining yourself to realism and accuracy in big blockbuster films is lame and not as entertaining as stylizing and exaggerating it’s subject matter. If anyone wants proper realism/accuracy, just go watch a documentary.

@Specogecko

Жыл бұрын

@@themanofshadows that’s your opinion, but like you said, most people don’t share your opinion…

@citizenvulpes4562

10 ай бұрын

​@@themanofshadows Shh you can't tell these nerds that. They want boring documentaries that make them feel intelligent. I want them to stay away from my monster movies.

"What's wrong with dinosaurs in modern movies?" Me: Oh boy... (Pulls out a list so long even an argentinosaurus gets self-esteem issues)

@scarecrow9501

Жыл бұрын

*Pulls out list that even argentinosaurus get self-steam issues* Blue whale:hold my beer

@GenericDan

Жыл бұрын

@@scarecrow9501 Argentinosaurus was actually larger than a blue whale in terms of external size alone.

@TRexHunterGaming10

Жыл бұрын

@@GenericDan But the blue whale weighs more

@GenericDan

Жыл бұрын

@@TRexHunterGaming10 Yes, the heaviest animal to exist, however the original comment made a joke about length.

@TRexHunterGaming10

Жыл бұрын

@@GenericDan Lol true

I like how every paleotuber uses that same raptor animation to depict how horrifying feathered dinosaurs were. Another thing I think that Jurassic World Dominion did very poorly was it's handling of the Giganotosaurus. While it was the most accurate antagonist behavior-wise, it was given no reason to be such a large enemy in the film. It killed only a little bug, and got one of the most brutal deaths in the series.

@DrangusKahn

Жыл бұрын

They are NOT dinosaurs in the Jurassic films they are genetic hybrids...people need to stop comparing the fossil record to them- they literally tell you they used,amphibian or avian DNA then expanded using other animals to fill in the sequence gaps. So, again they are actually NOT dinosaurs.

@lunathekuduruk1311

Жыл бұрын

​@@DrangusKahn Ramses himself said in the movie that all biosyn dinosaurs are completely pure and they look like what they did 65 million years ago

@Agustin_Leal

Жыл бұрын

That animation stops being scary the moment you see the bird beak. Then it's just: "Imma be careful with this dangerous animal"

@pappanalab

Жыл бұрын

@@Agustin_Leal You say that like animals aren’t scary lol. I think the people who have been killed by cassowaries would beg to differ.

@thanujadamithangani7265

Жыл бұрын

@@lunathekuduruk1311 Yeah, the franchise is definitely not consistent with its own rules and dinosaur designs as even the raptors had feather and quills in the third JP movie.

It's not how you make the dinosaurs look, it's how you treat them.

@GabiteEditz

Жыл бұрын

Unless the design looks nothing like the actual animal ( jwd giga)

@uhh345

Жыл бұрын

@@GabiteEditz his death was more brutal than the Indominus rex and he didn't even deserve it.

@raptormage2209

Жыл бұрын

@@uhh345 He got wombo combo-ed

@Castigar48

Жыл бұрын

oh man 65 better be good hollywood. Dont f*ck it up. Dont f*ck up Kylo ren shooting dinosaurs!!!

@ShineyFace1337

Жыл бұрын

True, I didn't like how they treated the giga in JW Dominion, acting like it was the second coming of the indominus rex and yet it barely did anything until the end

I also have an issue in the lack of colour in dinosaurs. Most are brown or grey which isn't bad but imagine seeing a flock of vibrant ornthomimids running in a lush forest

@Charles-7

8 ай бұрын

that's cause the females are the ones that lack vibrate colors, like modern birds

65 was going to have a triceratops and three legged ankylosaur as antagonists but they were told by a test audience to remove them. They weren't scary enough they said. Imagine if they had kept the two in the film

@catpoke9557

Жыл бұрын

That saddens me a lot. We need more antagonistic herbivores.

@matyaskassay4346

Жыл бұрын

well at least that would've been unique and less cliche, although I can't really imagine an ankylosaurus being a threat to anything on three legs, lol.

@DipUniversal

Жыл бұрын

​@@matyaskassay4346 well it's just a walking bolder, but slower

@martijn9568

Жыл бұрын

​@@matyaskassay4346 I guess it depends on if it can still swing its tail and how quickly it can face a different direction😅

@lorefreak94

Жыл бұрын

@@matyaskassay4346 rhino's are scary they are basically a blind slow/mid speed tank with anger issues. I can see an ankylsuar being scary. Three legs is odd but a slow angry tank could be interesting.

I personally think part of the issue of "FEATHERS MAKE DINOSAURS LOOK STUPID" argument is because they think of giant parrots and other cute birds they don't think of a 6 ft tall ground hawk. they don't think of a 16 ft eagle with sharp teeth they think of lizards with feathers haphazardly thrown on like a slurpasaur, they think of turkeys and chickens Poltra was downright terrifying because it was giant ass carnivorous chicken, it didn't lose fear point because of the down

@themaskedtalker2171

Жыл бұрын

Think of feathered dinosaurs... or AVIAN DINOSAURS... As big, carnivorous Raptors (birds of prey) with razor sharp teeth. Hell, even the Chicken has a dinosaur ancestor... the chicken is the closest living relative to the T Rex! I mean, it adds up; short forelimbs, aggression, overall body plan, save for the neck being higher from the ground. But a feathered dinosaur isn't just a lizard with feathered stuck on. I'd say the feathers make them look otherworldly... very interesting to think of that as the context of "yup. These things used to live here."

@mr.x2567

Жыл бұрын

Also, parrots can be a lot more ruthless than you think. Many of their beaks can take a finger off of you. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg…

@justusb.plorer8773

Жыл бұрын

​​@@mr.x2567 I quote from Oliver L. Austin Jr.'s 1962 book "Birds of the World": "Another distinctive group of Australo-Malayan parrots consists of the 16 noisy cockatoos,(...) The largest is the 31-inch Black Cockatoo of New Guinea, whose tremendous curved bill ends in a long, sharp point. With it, the Black Cockatoo cracks and digs the meat out of hard-shelled nuts that a man has trouble breaking with a rock."

@Villagerwarrior

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I have a really bad experience with Goose.. so I definitely know how fuckin terrifying this guys are even with feathers.🗿

@iapetusmccool

Жыл бұрын

​@@themaskedtalker2171 chicken isn't the closest living relative of T. rex. _All_ birds are equally close to T. rex.

Another point I would make is that by ignoring how different dinosaurs had different adaptations they make them boring. All the big theropods being generified as “tyrannosaurid clones” is the worst offender (and leads to them being badly underestimated in pop culture because their actual predatory behaviours aren’t highlighted, so they’re often assumed to have been “inferior tyrannosaurid ripoffs”)

@epicjonny155

Жыл бұрын

Each Theorpod is great in their own but are often talked down cause they are not T Rex

@NotRuyaki

Жыл бұрын

The JWD giga is nothing like the actual giga tbh, they didnt add the thing that made giga cool such as its chin and an organ which helps it close its jaws faster But hey at least giga wasnt a mindless monster

@bkjeong4302

Жыл бұрын

@@NotRuyaki Yeah that was the only good thing about that awful depiction. Seriously, when are we actually going to see a proper depiction of a carcharodontosaurid slicing bite (not even documentaries have properly represented that adaptation!)?

@NotRuyaki

Жыл бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 i love the giga design but i wished it wasnt a giga It just didnt feel like a giga, it felt like a Trex if it took steroids.

Finally someone who agrees that you don't have to always think about accuracy when it comes to dinosaur projects I feel like u need uniqueness when it comes to dinosaur projects and just because the Jurassic world sequels do something wrong doesn't mean others should be criticized for inaccuracy and to always remember to make dinosaurs interesting traits rather than just being a stylistic antagonistic monster to make them unique or something never seen before, great video 👍

@jurassic7793

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU JUST THANK YOU

@reallycantthinkofausername487

Жыл бұрын

The problem is NO big budget dinosaur movie thinks about accuracy at all! Accurate dinosaurs in a movie with a budget would be 10x more inspired than the samey, repeated, unoriginal designs in 65. Hell, the original Jurassic Park had a big focus on accuracy and its designs were incredibly up to date for the time. Its just Jurassic World and its sequels decided to not bother updating with recent discoveries and came up with a dumb excuse to make up for their lack of originality from the previous films

@ShingatsuRyu_9721

Жыл бұрын

@@jurassic7793 no prob

@ShingatsuRyu_9721

Жыл бұрын

@@reallycantthinkofausername487 u got a point

@kennethsatria6607

Жыл бұрын

I think the one dino media that gets this but also doesnt just follow trends for nostalgia is Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal

I think one of the most overlooked an underrated dinosaur media was primeval, simply because of the anamzing pairing of creature and location, most noticably deinonychus in the bowling alley and arthropleura in the abadonded subway tunnels.

@miosignore7137

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see someone remembers Primeval here.

@obambagaming1467

Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that they wanted to give the Deinonychus more feathers but it was too difficult to animate. This can also be seen with many of the other creatures, even the Predator, Camo Beast and mammoth. All of them dont have fur probably due to the same reason.

@miosignore7137

Жыл бұрын

@@obambagaming1467 if you look at the concept arts you can see that the dromaeosaur was almost fully feathered there.

So in order to make a good dinosaur movie (to sum it up) I have to: 1. Make them accurate (basically mostly). 2. Give them more unique features instead of just background creatures passing by and eating people. 3. Give the human characters other ways to topple the dinosaur (mostly) instead of just running away (and using other simple solutions to get away from them). 4. Don't put each of the dinosaur's screen times in a rush. (Set it in a good pacing) 5. Show the audience the dinosaur's true nature and personality (characterization) (not all dinosaurs are mostly monsters, just animals figuring out and doing whatever they must to survive). Correct me if I'm wrong. You can help and give me more tips (as understandable and not confusing, and not too long as possible) if you have any more ideas.

Of all the talks I hear about 65, this is the one I needed to hear. I don't mind inaccurate depictions of Dinosaurs or any prehistoric animal in general as long as they are handled or depicted well (Primal, as you mentioned, is a great example of that for me). As for 65 itself, outside of the Dinosaurs looking really bland and doing nothing interesting, the film almost looks like a remake of M. Night Shyamalan's After Earth with prehistoric creatures in it and that's not a good sign. But if it turns out to be decent, I might give it a chance, especially if Bruce Campbell makes a cameo given who's producing it.

@Castigar48

Жыл бұрын

man cant wait for 65. Seeing Kylo ren Shoots dinoasaurs. Every 5 years olds dream. dont f*ck it up hollywood

@michaelmenei5403

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean Sam Raimi, not Bruce Campell.

@tylerfish2701

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmenei5403 What I mean is that since Sam Raimi is involved in 65 as a producer, my hope is that Bruce Campbell makes a cameo in the film since he pretty much does in some of his works. Sorry for the confusion.

@tylerfish2701

Жыл бұрын

Edit: He wasn't in it!

This video practically sums up every complaint I have with newer dinosaurs in media. Nothing is really all that unique anymore, which is why Second Extinction is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. The dinos aren't accurate, but they're pretty cool video game monsters with unique characteristics that set them apart from any other dinosaurs in media. (with the exception of the Indoraptor knock off but that's just one bad apple)

@GodzillaEA

Жыл бұрын

Even the Upcoming Video Game Exoprimal, the Dinos are Inaccurate (especially the JP-sque Dilo) but they look Cool, and they're variety in them, another big factor is that they're have distinct colours, making them stand out more, I don't an issue with the Creatures from 65 (they're like something from Turok or something which is neat) but all seem to have a similar colour scheme, and that's boring, they should have a sort of varied colours and patterns on their skin, so they can all stand out in a way, without needing to change their appearance, it's all these dark and moderate grey colours and it's really bland and not interesting or distinct

I remember a scene in walking with sea monsters, Nigel was in the water with something and was wearing a vest that would release a foul liquid if it got too close. I'd like to see more of that. Not just a running simulator but using the Dinosaurs specific adaptations against it. Perhaps they can't see a certain colour, complex patterns confuse them or they're driven off by chemical smells, just a bit more respect for the animal. It would work especially well in Dinosaur horror. Because what if you've spent time learning about this Dinosaur, it's strengths and weaknesses and when the time comes for you to face it, you're no longer sure if what you've learned will work or not.

@kade-qt1zu

Жыл бұрын

In a way, that's kind of what Primal did. There's an episode of Primal called The Night Feeder, and, I'm going to go into some spoilers so only scroll down if you've already watched the episode. Alright. So in that episode, there's this creature called the Night Feeder, and it's nigh unstoppable, it shreds through ceratopsians with ease, it moves so fast it practically teleports, and it's also intelligent enough to hunt for pure pleasure. However, it has a weakness, fire. By using fire, the main characters of the show kill the night feeder. I think that's close to what you've described, albeit more fictional.

Bro, the moment the words 'How to train your dragon' came from your mouth, and I heard the fucking outstanding Theme song: Test Drive, I had the widest fucking smile on my face.

Think the main problem modern dinosaur movies have is they always try to make them look either scary or “cool” looking and use JP1 as a basis. Also, people that say feathered dinosaurs aren’t scary apparently can’t imagine an eagle the size of a Suburban looking at them like a tasty meal.

Well, with King Kong (2005), Peter Jackson stated that he wanted to have skull island be a horror show and have the animals not be entirely scientifically accurate because these weren’t dinosaurs from 65 million years ago, but what they evolved into by 1933. He even referred to the one creature as being a throwback T. Rex (dubbed Vastatosaurus Rex in the spin off book The World of Kong) having crocodilian skin and three fingers as a means to compliment the creatures from the 1933 version. In my opinion, it was a smart choice for that film. On a side note: I’d recommend to everyone else to look into the works of artists like Dougal Dixon and Wayne Barlowe.

people said "giant Chicken" aren't scary never seen a large birb before. Kasowari is literally a giant turkey and they're scary af

The main issue with dominion is that if you remove all the dinosaur scenes, every single one of them, you end up with exactly the same movie. The dinosaurs have zero impact on the story. As for claire outrunning the rex, she doesnt. The rex isnt chasing her, it's following the flare, which was previously established in the movie. The flare means food is coming. So I never really had a problem with that.

@obambagaming1467

Жыл бұрын

Moistcritikal even said that the only good scenes in dominion are the dinosaur scenes, but that there are so few that he fell asleep during this movie. Also for some reason there are locusts which play a big part in the story? They also try too hard to add an actual villain to the movies, but it often makes them uninteresting. For example the main "human" villains in the first JP movies were realistic human beings. They weren't pure evil. The trophy hunter in the Lost World isn't even really that much of a villain. Also the dinosaurs were more like animals instead of evil beings wanting to destroy everything. But in the JW movies the human villains are just "evil military guy", "evil mad scientist", "evil rich guy", etc. Also all of the dinosaurs are now evil supervillains. The "good" main characters have also become extremely boring and the dialogue is sometimes extremely cringe, exspecially in Fallen Kingdom. So not only have they ruined their dinosaurs, but their human characters as well.

“Why wasn’t theri the main bid bad” it’s a herbivore and has feathers two huge nonos from universal

What's not wrong with modern Dino movies

It pisses me off that the Jurassic world films pretend they care about making their dinosaurs as animals but they really don’t care

@obambagaming1467

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the "Joker of the Dinosaurs"

@dudotolivier6363

Жыл бұрын

They do ! Dinosaurs are treated as animals, with all the animals abuses we especially have in the last two movies. Only the hybrids are treated as monsters, because they are justly created to be that and anything else. Just to be mindless biological weapon that kill on sight, to be used as arms in wars instead of humans. The Jurassic World movies does all great work, and do well, to show the numerous deviances/deviations and used that humans made or want to do about dinosaurs for their own profits. Something that wasn't never really display in the three first movies, at the exception to use them in a zoo. The first two originals books by Crichton speak and mention all the possible animals abuses that the humans want to do on dinosaur for their own profits (to use them instead of normal pets who recently have right for their beings while dinosaurs haven't and can be used instead of dogs and cats to be subject of expermentatiosn for humans uses). The Book speak a lot about all the possible deviantions of the Science tool by humans, and outside cloning dinosaurs and to pretend be god in the first three films, there anything of that in these latter. They are in the Jurassic World ones = animals abuses in every posibles way, to use them as weapon instead of sentient being, hybrids, OGM domain and unfair competition between societies with the locust in Dominion etc... Maybe the Jurassic World films don't succeed everytime to reach and do well about what they want to give as theme, but at least they try, to explore new ways, new settings and elements that truly occured in real-life and should strike in our head since they are parallels, instead of doing nothing. Me, I, what pissed me, It's justly people that poop, destroy and comlain about movies without truly really analyzed them and have remained only at the surface level instead to go deeped under their fleach to their core/skeleton. Maybe the Jurassic World movies, especially the first one, have maybe sadly a head of stupid series B monster movies appearance but they aren't stupid series B monster movies at th end. Maybe Dominion have it's weakness, his flaws, but he's way at least above the correct/ok line when we take everything into consideration of him, his elements. He even nonless give us many things that were wanted since decades : We have the original trio onscreen, we have Allan and Ellie togethers in love and who correct the error between them in JP3, we have the Dilophosaurus who have returned since the very first movie and who is well used in the film, we have fuzzy dinosaurs, we have aggressive and dangerous herbivores, and finally we have a FUCKING FEATHERED RAPTOR !!!!!! With all that that should be fine, but nope, we have what we want but stil continue to piss off on the movies if anything of all that happened. The public itself should take conscience and realize that it itself have became a part of the problem that end up with what we see as final results with the movies. the movies is good and correct even if not extraordinary, but the public leaves greatly much undesired.

@iluvyurbles

Жыл бұрын

@@dudotolivier6363 then why did the pterosaurs attack and kill humans rather then fleeing like animals would when a giant metal helicopter crashed into their homes

@dudotolivier6363

Жыл бұрын

@@iluvyurbles Because they are territorials. I think all the jurassic Park/World movies made strongly clear of that. Many animals will attack on sight people or others animals if these latter are to close of them, are in their personnal areas, too close from their nest or to defend their babies. Flying animals, especially birds, like hawks, falcon, crows and plenty others, don't hesitate to attack humans from the skies. They don't flee because since they can fly, change brutally of direction and recoil themsleves quickly after they attack, they are less vulnerable to injuries from return attacks of the beings attacked. In the 2015 movie, the indominus break down the pterosaurs aviary, some of them escape and since the was the helicoptere that chase the Indominus near the aviary, so their nest/territory, and that in addition they where in high aggressive mode due to the Indominus rampage into their own house, they instinctively attack the helicoptere. CQFD.

@iluvyurbles

Жыл бұрын

@@dudotolivier6363 not when fleeing danger Animals are not blood thirsty Animals fleeing from danger wouldn’t take time out of fleeing to fight thing

I think it would have been a cool idea if biosyn created their own version of dilophosaurus that is larger and more accurate, that ended up hunting one of the injen dilos during the dilophosaurus scene. I think that sounds bloody awesome

I hope we will one day see dinosaurs depicted as animals with scientific rigour in movies, just as Apple TV's Prehistoric Planet showed, in one of the movies.

@kennethsatria6607

Жыл бұрын

Nature isnt bloodless either though so I hope we find the in between of it at some point in our lifetime. Like a rex might not bellow whenever it makes a kill but it sure as hell would rip a carcass apart, i think the only reason thats rarely shown is the budget of animating ripping flesh or snapping bones. Might have to go animatronic.

I believe in a mix of both. If all dinosaurs in all films are accurate or innacurate it would be boring. I like the variety of dinosaurs being both in different films

I could understand the hate on 65 and other recent media, IF Walking with Dinosaurs, Prehistoric Planet, and other shows and films didn't already exist for years now. It's much like Batman discourse, with there being both Golden Age/Adam West lighter takes on the character, vs. the noir/darker interpretations that picked up again in the late 70's and early 80's. They both have their place, and this goes for many fandoms. Why can't we just be happy that there are so many people that like different aspects of the thing you like? It's silly to me, let people enjoy what they enjoy.

I just want to see a dinosaur film that treats the dinosaurs as animals instead of well movie monsters or generic action movie protags. Doesn’t have to be super accurate as long as they don’t show tiny raptors ganking herbivores so much larger than them and actually show how dangerous herbivores can be. It is a nice potential honestly even as a time travel film. JP does add those elements to the dinosaurs as well.

theory: all of the kids who said "i would've just shot the velociraptors" in '93 grew up and became the writers for the new jurassic world movies

My thoughts are with the dinosaurs we're seeing in modern movies are that theyre cool enough but for sure feel overused in the way they're portrayed. But if I had to go deeper it really has to do with people taking Jurassic Park and using as the basis for making for dinosaur movies regardless if it's accurate or not because Jurassic park did recreate our view in these animals long extinct animals. Though like I said before I don't mind these dinosaurs, I still would love to see more accurate or ones closer to the fossil record while also having a stylisze look besides in documentary such as Prehistoric Planet,NHK,and etc Overall I'll just have to wait until I watch this amazing video,and wish yall have a great day ☺

I've been saying since it came out that the Therizinosaurus was the best part of the Dominion. That scene was honestly fantastic, and the blindness added a unqie touch to it too. I'm trying to become a writer and one thing that's important to me is making my dinosaurs unique. I do personally have some high hopes for 65, I just want a fun ride from it, inaccurate dinosaurs don't really bother me but I agree with comments saying the designs should be less...bland? That's one way I've heard it described. I suppose more color and unique patterns would've added something. Heck fully speculative animals running around would've been really cool to see since not every animal fossilized.

@Shehzain

Жыл бұрын

Funny to see you here, I was just going to recommend that you watch this video. 😂

@endermanwithalowercasee

Жыл бұрын

@@Shehzain Oh hey lol!

I feel like people overlook how out of date the Jurassic Park Triceratops is, even for the time. It's basically straight out of a Charles R. Knight painting.

@juanyusee8197

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the JP Trike is much more inaccurate than the JP Dilo in fact, since at least the JP Dilo is referenced Greg Paul's skeletal for Dilo.

I think it also doesn't help that the dinosaurs have become universally grey. Compared to Walking with Dinosaurs, that found all those iconic pattern and colours for each species. Also, I agree on that Therizinosaurus - that was a great scene!

funny how the one and only herbivore antagonist was a good one

@Karanpal60062

24 күн бұрын

Like Woodstock from dinosaur revolution

Excellent work on the video and how well put your thoughts on the subject matter were. I saw that you put my tweet at the beginning of the video, while I'm not proud of how I convey my thoughts on the topic (as you can only do so much with a 250-character limit) and the shallow "feathered dinos are not scary/cool" debate about 65 was sparked from a Halo lore KZreadr I used to respect, I'm happy to see that a lot of thoughts I had about the topic are explained better than my in-the-moment tweet ever could. While it is annoying that 65 is having lazy, uninspired dinosaur designs are just a byproduct symptom of a problem that started with Jurassic World. (That is a separate topic on its own, especially with how hypocritical writer & director Colin Trevorrow is in his interview statements about the Jurassic World movies. Like how they try to have their cake and eat it too i.e. the dinosaur not being heroes or villains with mortals in one interview then calling Giga the Joker in another interview.) However, 65 is a film that has a lot of problems with it looking a lot like SyFy original movie that's trying to bank one actor's name, IMO, with the marketing problem of Terminator Genisys. That is spoiling the major plot twists, if not the entire movie in one trailer against the filmmakers' wishes which is a bad sign that the film studio has no faith in the movie. From what I researched, the planet the movie is set being Earth 65 miilion years ago, and not an alien planet was meant to be a big plot twist like how John Carter being a Terminator was meant to be the big plot twist for the Terminator Genisys movie, not for the marketing. This is why I find it dishearting that the dinosaur design topic is overshadowing what is I feel is going to be a movie that most likely going to be forgotten by most in a few weeks. That being said, I am perfectly ok with stylized dinosaurs as either over-the-top movie monsters like the old Dinosaurs Attack cards or as actual animals like Prehistoric Planet or the early Jurassic Park films as long as the intention is clear, it fully embraces its direction, and is not done lazily or half-assed. Dinosaurs are amazing creatures that inspire so much creativity and imagination. Such as how the Halo video games have both feathered and non-feathered dinosaurs as the Jackal and Elite aliens, creating one of the most interesting and recognizable alien races in all of sci-fi. However, it is a great shame to see the great potential of dinosaurs being wasted by careless Hollywood execs as fodder for disposal shlock/shovelware.

man i just want accurate dinosaurs...is that a lot to ask for

@yuyaricachimuel555

Жыл бұрын

Depends. We could just use different takes than what’s popular overall.

feels good to see my favorite dinosaur (therizinosaurus) get a highlight! amazing video man, this is my first time running across your content and i think I'll stick around

Scanova the Carnotaurus, I’d like to say that you have a very well-balanced and mature take on issues with paleo media and I learned things I would never have expected.

@kade-qt1zu

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, unlike a certain someone els on the comments section.

The original JP raptors were trans, don't tell Tucker he will lose it.

@rabbitendd9002

Жыл бұрын

???? Explain am curious

@vinisha2969

Жыл бұрын

@@rabbitendd9002 the og jp raptors can change their gender bcuz of the frog dna

@ProWalter2

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I see what you did there

@chichiboypumpi

Жыл бұрын

you can say they’re pretty woke

@Karanpal60062

24 күн бұрын

So big one is trans female

Faaaaacts, the films just simply suck at integrating the dinosaurs into the scene in a way that results memorable or at least makes good use of the specie in question.

@MrTroodon_Official

Жыл бұрын

Oh also, they are just mediocre films on general

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

Жыл бұрын

"Dinosaurs" are now essentially a trope, like hyper aggressive sharks.

That music from King Kong game brings so much nostalgia

7:15, I'm so glad that you pointed out the use of context making something scary.

not only dose Context matter alot in Horror but, Also everything can be scary if done right, i mean one of the biggest Horror franchises these days is Five Nights at Freddys, a Game franchise about animatronic animals, That in itself is a Big F-U for the whole "Gotta Look 100% monstrous" or "Feathers are not Scray" thing alongside What you said too.

The 'dinosaurs" in 65 don't look even like dinosaurs, sure they're lizards but I would call them monsters instead since Im pretty sure a 20 foott tall and 60 foot long quadrupedal T-rex didn't existed in the Cretaceous.

imo, it's simple - Designs: they aren't just inaccurate but generic. They try so hard to do the awesomebro scaly bipedal crocs thing that he designs are all indistinguishable from one another. Show your average Joe a photo of the JW and 65 rosters and he won't tell sh*t appart. Prehistoric Planet did this right, even with dinosaurs as similar as Tyrannosaurus and Tarbosaurus(it doesn't matter that PP is a documentary, it's equally capable of doing the same mistakes), they're anatomically similar but still look different and do different things in different environments - The behavior: it's another thing that makes them generic and boring. Dinosaurs spark the imaginations of people because they make us wonder what would such creatures have been doing when they were alive. the original JP dinos weren't memorable because of how they look but because of how they behaved. We see brachios grazing the highest trees and being described as "big cows", gallimimus flocking like birbs, raptors pack hunting, solving problems and leaving nests behind, tyrannosaurus playing with a car and ambushing, a triceratops being sick. Instead, now dinosaurs only kill people (when they're not in the background), they're just like stormtroopers firing at the protags - Bullshit writing: Writers and companies tend to do the absolute minimal effort because they think that the mere presence of "dinosaurs" in the screen is enough for their stupid audiences (according to them) to consoom no matter what. The dinosaur scenes don't have relevance, repercussions or even coherency with the plot Edit: Ok, it wasn't that simple

Love the music choices you made for this vid!

While Primeval was also very inaccurate, I remember it used to feature obscure animals like Inostrancevia, had interesting ideas (like dromaeosaurs with rattling feathers, most future creatures) or the rare accurate gem (Pteranodon or the dodos).

@saisameer8771

Жыл бұрын

Man! Why don't Gorgonopsids have more media appearances? I only ever saw them in walking with monsters.

@arrowhead8856

Жыл бұрын

@@saisameer8771maybe i’m biased because they’re my favorite prehistoric animals, but i can’t believe gorgonopsids haven’t been used more. they’re so cool and menacing. the walking with monsters gorgonopsid is very special to me

"We just got prehistoric planet after all." Apple TV-plus: 👀

Thanks for the clip of THEM! One of my favorites!

1:46 no way bro actually used Dino D-Day main theme (or maybe it something else idk). Also great vid

Ok, my issue is the lack of color Primal may not have had much accuracy but it had various colors and environments and unique designs, But everything in the trailer for 65 is the same bland boring grey, How is this an ecosystem when everything looks dead? Which I think is itself an extension of your stated problems All the creatures in primal have unique characterization and require a new and unique plan or strategy to stop them

@kade-qt1zu

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like most people are willing to watch media with innacurate dinosaurs if said media is written well and designed creatively. Hmmm.

I personally hate how dinosaurs are in big movies, I think the other major problem is the fact how they are designed themselfs, they look cartoony and not like something that was real, and it makes watching them on screen extremely boring, I kid you not I couldn't even make it half way watching dominion without having to leave every min hoping something good might happen, not only that but I've noticed how every single dinosaur sounds exactly the same, its so boring, to top of it off they don't even act like animals, they act like they have a human consciousness. I'm just saying they don't need to be realistic, and they don't need to be pretty but they lack any uniqueness, they just feel like copy and paste, and there only portrayed as nothing but killing machines, this is bit off topic but if you know the movie avatar, (not the airbending one) the movie was extremely unique giving us a diffrent perspective of culture, animals, and in genreal life. The animals in that movie were absolutely beatiful and memerizing, but also terrifying it was something completely new and out of this world. In conclusion modern movie nowadays only seem to care about Makin fast money instead of giving us actual work of art and giving us good entertainment to make it worth our time and money.

Very nice. Your video helps me develop my writing!

6:51 I just got an add of a bunch of birds chasing a terrified woman after you said you said “without any words”.

What I loved about jurassic park 1 and 2 is that yeah it is mainly horror but it's animal horror, not a monster flick, what do i mean by this? It is horror from the idea that the animal that is chasing you has no motive, no malice towards you, they're either just hungry or feel threatened, animals think differently, to you you may be approaching them out of curiosity, to them it looks like you're chalangeing their terf or you want to kill or eat them, they'll defend themselves. But at least with that you can deal with, you can sort of convince them you are not a threat, but, with a determined predator who has been stalking you for a while there is no reasoning, all you can do is hope it either loses interest or gives up and figures you may not be worth the effort. These aren't cartoon monsters you can looney toons your way out of, this is an intelligent living creature who you may not know much about or may have a lesser known behaviour or brief moment of intelligence that may catch you off guard and cost you your life

Here's hoping for the primitive War film adaptation will be a mold breaker for once and for all on Paleo media

@Shehzain

Жыл бұрын

There's going to be a film of it?! Tell me more!

@elijahmontemayor9423

Жыл бұрын

@@Shehzain from what I've heard, with some the dinosaur species, majority of them are going to be either book accurate or up-to-date like Utahraptor going to be the way it's from the book, but the T-Rex would probably get reduction in feathers or no feathers at all

@elijahmontemayor9423

Жыл бұрын

@@Shehzain quetzalcoatlus will also keep its barbwire teeth tongue and Deinonychus will be exactly the way it is from the book

@kade-qt1zu

Жыл бұрын

​@@elijahmontemayor9423 I'm not joking when I say this: If the Primitive War movie turns out to be a success, it could revolutionize dinosaur designs in pop culture.

6:57 yeah that head tilt alone proves that feathered dinosaurs can be just as terrifying as scaly ones.

The therazinosaurus doesn't have "poor" eyesight, it's suppose to be totally blind.

3:55, I like The Land Before Time (1988) since I was a toddler and younger ages in the 2000s era after I was born on September 23rd, 1997. One of my favorite 2-D animated movies from Universal Studios.

I just came out 65 and had fun with it. It's just Turok and a Harryhausen movie combined. It's decent.

People who think feathers aint scary have clearly never raised chickens. Them things are vicious

@Bagelgeuse

Жыл бұрын

Especially when you don't trim their beaks.

Extremely well thought out and put together summary of this whole debacle. Couldn't agree with you more on the lack of characterization being a big problem with the portrayal of dinosaurs, and how most that fail also happen to just copy Jurassic Park without learning what it did well. It's hard to say what's going to happen within mainstream depictions of dinos after 65, but with another season of Prehistoric Planet to reaffirm that accuracy CAN sell, hopefully the message breaks through in regards to why dinosaurs, and other prehistoric animals, are important and should be treated with care in how they're depicted.

So, let me get this straight-the reason most dino media flops is because dinos just aren't interesting enough? Overall, this is a great analysis.

@ExtremeMadnessX

Жыл бұрын

Because people that make that media are too lazy to make dinosaurs looking interesting. It's much easier to make dinosaurs look like generic lizard monsters.

I think the feathers make them more menacing because you think they won’t harm you because they look fluffy but they are deadly as hell😂😂

Bro used espinas’s theme from monster hunter for the beginning of part 2 and I love it lol

The Therizinosaurus has quickly become one of the most popular dinosaurs from the JP/JW franchise and I’m not surprised It’s introductory scene is an amazing mix of creepy,animalistic and interesting. I may be in the minority(Or majority idk) that liked dominion and a big part of it was this Therizinosurus Not to mention that it’s design is a mix of realistic and awesome

Matpat called the movie dinosaurs that third deadliest Disney movie of all time I would have been agreed with him if it was possible but since they used carnotaurus in it as the big bad they can't because it was on the opposite side of the world at the time

The Lost World is the BEST sequel in the Jurassic Park series. Fight me.

@ScanovatheCarnotaurus

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Bagelgeuse

Жыл бұрын

I'm not going to, because you're absolutely right.

@saidi7975

Жыл бұрын

Well it is my favorite of the film series. My favorite JP piece remains the 1st novel.

@beastmaster0934

Жыл бұрын

The original trilogy are the best in the series (Yes, including JP ///, which is an underrated movie in my opinion).

Imagine accurate Utahraptor horror like that short clip That's scary af

i never expected him to curse

The thing with 65 is yes while it’s in a different universe and not accurate by any means that’s kinda the gimmick and the fact it’s focused on the survival of the humans and sci-fi instead of total accuracy and these things are way in the future anyways but I do agree and completely understand why people are mad/upset and that’s completely acceptable by just looking at the designs and there inspiration

65 feels a lot more like a fun "speculative evolution" type of film which is awesome. This movie looks promising and fun. I feel like inaccurate/fan-made depictions of dinosaurs are just as valid as the paleo-accurate ones. Dinosaurs, regardless of their portrayal, inspire the minds of those who create. I feel like it shouldn't be taken down for being inaccurate, 65 is not a documentary, and Prehistoric planet is not a monster movie.

@ronniepatterson2827

Жыл бұрын

Bingo at last someone gets it.

@DireNemesis

Жыл бұрын

Could of at least made their designs pop more lol

@beastmaster0934

Жыл бұрын

My only real complaint is that they could’ve at least added some color to the dinosaurs.

@epicjonny155

Жыл бұрын

I kinda laughed when you said prehistoric planet is not a monster movie

@Specogecko

Жыл бұрын

I get the vibe that it lands on a planet where the creatures convergently evolved to look similar to dinosaurs

I personally don’t mind some inaccurate dinosaurs here and there, it’s just when they are depicted as monsters rather than animals.

Love the way you just had to let Test Drive end before finishing the segment. Anyways yeah, 100%, you're completely right.

@ScanovatheCarnotaurus

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I just couldn't cut it short lmao

Dinosaurs are scary because they were real they existed, and portraying them as animals keeps that thought in mind. Jurassic Park is more intense then Jurassic World simply because the animals felt real even when they were inaccurate for the time, Jurassic World and other modern dinosaur media missed that important part which is why it blends in with every other monster movie out there. I'm not saying dinosaurs have to be accurate outside of Jurassic World they just need a sense of realness of which Jurassic Park had and modern dinosaur movies don't.

People who still afraid with bird like Goose and Seagull doesn't have right to say "Dinosaur with feather is not scary" 😂

The use of the Dino D-Day music is an automatic W

3:06 this is really funny because it looks just like Secodontosaurus

Joking the Dilo was the most disrespectful scene I’ve ever seen in a Jurassic Park film, and I’ve watched Jurassic Park 3.

For me, it's not really about the inaccurate designs in 65. In the end, it is "just a movie" and the directors do not claim the depictions are accurate. The problem with 65 for me is that the Dino designs are incredibly uninspired and lame. Modern mainstream movie monsters do all the same since Cloverfield. Grey skin, dangly arms and legs and completely shrink-wrapped (Quiet Place, Jurassic World (ok, the skin on one is white and on the other it's black), Stranger Things, Tomorrow War, 65, to name a few). As long as a movie is not boasting itself about its accurate depiction (looking at you, JW Dominion) inaccurate designs are fine by me. It starts to bother me when the Crocodilosaurus on screen is supposed to be a Baryonyx, or the Giga-Joker-Saurus edgeii is supposed to be a Giganotosaurus. When you do give it a real name, and say in the marketing promotion that the designs are accurate, it is just plain misinformation. When Trevorrow is talking in interviews about how he does not want to show kids Dinos that are not real but then goes on and does it anyway and then lies about how the first film did not try to be accurate either, it is just dishonest. At the end of the day, misinformation is still misinformation. And to all the people who say "getting mad about it is embarrassing" or that "it does not matter". Well, it matters to us, because we care about this topic. And I am sure that there is some topic that matters to you, and you'd be bothered if a movie would do the same thing to that topic. For example, imagine being a history nerd, and a new, supposedly accurate, WW2 movie just came out. All the soldiers are fighting with modern weapons because they look cooler, and instead of Nazi Germany it's basically just the plot of the movie Independence Day, because it's more wholesome this way. And as you complain about it people just say "come on that is totally fine", "stop making it historically accurate, without aliens history would be super boring". It's just stupid. In the end, just go and enjoy 65, but stop getting mad at people who want better for something they care about, or say that it is embarrassing to even care about it. Maybe just a little empathy instead of ignorance for others. *Edit: I am also ok with projects like Primal calling Fang a "Tyrannosaur", because it does not say it is a certain species, it is just a Tyrannosaur. And in general, I am fine with inaccuracy as long as the movie does not act like the depictions are accurate. **Edit: Fantastic video, couldn't have said it better myself. ***Edit: Another quick example how you can avoid the trap around accuracy is actually the original Jurassic World. They kept the inaccurate Velociraptor design, however, I do believe that in the canon, they changed the species from the real Velociraptor mongoliensis to the fictional Velociraptor montanaii, since in Jurassic Park they did dig up the Velociraptors near (the fictional city) Snakewater, Montana, which in itself is amazingly inaccurate. But I could be wrong about that. ****Edit: The reason why Jurassic Park does not bother as many people as something like Dominion, is that, while trying to be accurate, Steven Spielberg and Stan Winston specifically used the wording "as accurate as possible", saying that they were willing to make changes where changes are needed for the script. Also, just as this video stated, they did more for the modern depiction of dinosaurs as warmblooded, active and intelligent hunters than any other piece of paleo media did up to 1993. *****Edit: Basically, my problem is not really with inaccurate movies. Just with movies, that claim to be accurate. It's mostly "documentaries" like Jurassic Fight Club that I really dislike.

do I hear peter jacksons king kong official game of the movie soundtrack being used? wait YOOOOO DINO D-DAY REFERENCE or am I mistaken

@ScanovatheCarnotaurus

Жыл бұрын

No u rite check description

One underrated detail from lost world in my opinion is how both Rex parents come to the aid of the baby Rex’s calls. I feel it’s fair to assume that they were good parents and filled a defensive and tutorial role for at least a short time, the same as many birds today. The larger balance between character vs animal is very important when it comes to writing, and if not enough care is taken here it can make or break the media piece. This is why most Dino dorks gravitate towards Dino docs rather than monster media, myself included. I have been working on a passion project that of course includes dinosaurs, and I want to find that line between plain animals and characterized specimens 😂

Honestly this essay is pretty good because it actually goes in depth why dinosaurs in modern movies don't work besides using the overused Innaccurate = garbage 🤢🤮 argument. Even if I was one of the few people who enjoyed and liked Fallen kingdom, even I have to admit that some dinosaur scenes could have been better executed

@maozilla9149

Жыл бұрын

Don't they ever stop doing inaccurate dinosaurs

Another issue is paleo fans themselves. Everyone wants accuracy, but accuracy is always changing. It seems no one can ever be satisfied with attempts at accuracy becauss they will be infinitely nitpicked and hated once new studies debunk old theories. It's a daunting task for any writer.

At the risk of saying the same thing the video might be saying, Imma comment early. Personally, I have come to the weird realisation that the actual problem with inaccurate dinosaurs in media is twofold, and we only see half of the discussion. On the one hand, these designs, and the way they're characterized, fails to capture dinosaurs as animals, and the predation based horror that comes along with this. On the other hand, they are also bland an uninspired by horror movie monster standards. There are no tentacles, like with most alien monsters. No fun costumes, like with slashers. No fun destroyed bits, like with robots. Not even the adaptions for predation we get in predation based horror utilizing fictional creatures. The best we get is mishapen teeth, extra spikes, and standard inaccuraccies that serve to make the creatures look MORE familiar to an audience. The best they can do is tired knockoffs of niche paleoart from the early 2000s. Like, if you think inaccurate dinosaurs are noteworthily scarier than accurate ones, I don't know what to tell you. If you think inaccurate dinosaurs being scary would be an excuse for how dreadfully lazy their designs usually are, I don't know what to tell you. If you think looking scary is gonna be a priority for all or even most dinosaur designs in media, I don't know what to tell you. If you think the Jurassic World Raptors look terrifying... I know what to tell you, actually, you could derive multiple horror movies worth of spookums out of getting a pet gecko, so don't miss out on that lifehack. On the contrary, this also means that while most inaccurate designs fail, some don't, and accuraccy lovers should not ignore that in favour of being pedants about stuff. (Gonna zero in on things meant to be spooky here): Primeval features a lot of designs that while inaccurate, are actually good at being scary. The mammalesque design and behaviour of the Kaprosuchus and Pristichampsus, priming us to consider the characters as having underestimated them before any such error even takes place. The way the "Megarachne" cling to the ceiling, out of view. The sheer tenacity and almost pompous behaviour their Raptors possess, combined with their pronounced eyes and moving row of spike-feather-things on the back. The way stuff like their first Pteranodon is technically not purposefully dangerous, but still a massive animal they have to handle with care (which is a bit funny for something like Pteranodon but still). The sheer malice and intellect pretty much all of the future creatures possess to differentiate them from the fauna of the past. ARK Survival Evolved, amongst its flurry of participation trophies, has been approaching actually thoughtful, still inaccurate, designs as time went on, leaning more into real animal anatomy on revised iterations (TLCs and ARK 2 designs), which seems to be a massive benefit for basically every creature who received that treatment. By the ARK 2 designs they seem to have started actually putting effort into getting the underlying principles under their weird fancy ideas right, and the combination is truly something to behold. Jurassic Park 3s Raptors specifically. The updated skulls make them look weird to an audience accustommed to Jurassic Parks variants. It's a small change, but a rather impactful one. It also probably won't work as well on someone who isn't used to the JP Raptor designs, but I suppose that's probably a rare situation to find oneself in. Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous'es Scorpios rex. It is the only hybrid in the franchise whose design convinces me that this is a creature concocted by man which didn't end up the way they wanted it to, as oppossed to just some Megaraptoran with weird teeth. It's a lanky, fucked up thing with clear symptoms of genetic fuckery who looks like a dino-pug and functions a lot like a leopard. The issues with most inaccurate designs are mostly that they are bland, and that there isn't really a consistent way to properly disclaim that the designs in a piece of media aren't based on reality as of now (a problem which routinely happens to matters far more pressing than paleontology). And honestly? Aside from the general problems with anti-scientific rhetoric, and specifically the ways christian fundamentalists abuse the lack of general knowledge about dinosaurs to peddle their nonsense (which, again, they routinely do with far more pressing matters) I feel like this wouldn't even be an issue if the sides didn't happen to be specifically whining-prone people desperate to cling onto a past that never existed, and nerds stuffed with more random facts than sense fighting for a future that is currently being badly suppressed by the establishment - Or put otherwise, a situation where people will probably be prone to associating the whole mess with (a simplified outlook on) politics, and accuraccy nuts in particular will probably consider their efforts far more important than they realistically probably are as a result of that. I suspect it's not a coincidence that feather/paleo-nazi and feminazi seem to have gotten coined at around the same time. But then again, that might just be my sense of pattern recognition misfiring, it's not as if passionate weird people talking about anything wouldn't constantly be at each others throats without such explanations anyway. I assume there probably isn't some weird political subtext between why fans of the Boston Terriers and the Maine Raccoons sports teams hate each other like cats and dogs, for example. So TL;DR: Dino-dorks and JP-preps both miss the discussion about creature design they probably should be having instead, or at least also.

25:25 Granted, this can be partially attributed to the society mostly shifting away from fighting dragons to living peacefully with them, so this aspect might not be necessary. That being said, I do like that you point out the different characteristics of the dragons and how the characters have to think to overcome them, as it's one of the reasons the first film was engaging to me as a kid.

I personally love Fallen Kingdom, and think it is the best sequel from the Franchise. Please don't @ me, comment section. I get that the movie has some issues and it's definitely not for everyone. but the movie takes so much source material and references from Critchon's orignal JP Novels and takes the Franchise into a whole new direction to follow up with future installments that feature stories and ideas the general audience and Fans never have seen before. Finally moving away from the island storyline and moving the Dinosaurs closer to home and seeing scumbag auctioneers buy the Dinosaurs to use them for selfish reasons. The ending is incredible on how it builds up to this intense future with Humans and Dinosaurs forced to coexist with each other that will definitely cause chaos and disaster! It was the perfect setting and build up for the third installment of the Sequel Trilogy! .......And then there's Dominion. Even though I still liked the movie for what it attempts to show and accomplih, my love for the Franchises still holds back my serious criticisms of Dominion's noticable flaws. It's like one hand I'm telling myself, "This movie was good, I don't get why the haters just have to just bash on it because it's not like their "ChIldHoOd MoVIe"! and on the other is telling me "This movie is not perfect, maybe not even great, because of the missed opportunities and the scenes they chosen to do instead of the better potential outcomes." And I hate this was supposed to be the grand "finale" to the Franchise's Legacy when all I see are the writing's hiccups, the newer Dinosaurs/Creatures getting little/barely, or ONE WHOLE scene, lying about the Dinosaurs existence back in Fallen Kingdom while there were actually other Dinosaurs that were in the Biosny Sanctuary (like, what?! What was the point in saying that the ones on Nublar were the LAST LIVING DINOSAURSON THE PLANET???), and having no real sense of danger to any of the main characters. In Fallen Kingdom, there was a sense of danger, it wasn't just characters falling down and getting a slight scratch, we see Owen getting tranq with a powerful sedative that could have killed him and almost getting burnt by Sibo's lava, Claire getting her whole leg getting stabbed by thr Indoraptor, there was real dangers to the characters, in Dominion..... there wasn't any of that at all. If there was anyone that I had no doubts that would definitely die, it was Ian Malcolm. Because since he died from blood lose in the Novel, (not until Critchon retconned his death in The Lost World) he would have finally biting the dust in Dominion creating serious danger for anyone in the Franchise, especially seeing almost everyone's favorite mathematician getting killed so easily! But nope..... none of that..... no one dies and they all live happily ever after. What happened with Dominion?! It's making me frustrated on liking it and not at the same time that it makes me sad! 😓

18:41: Dimetrodon? In earnest? O.k., most of the "Jurassic" animals are actually from the Cretacious but they are still dinosaurs whereas Dimetrodon is a _very_ early (early Permian!) synapsid (much more related to us mammals) to which dinosaurs were basically science fiction.

@garagecna2343

Жыл бұрын

The dumbest part about bringing the Dimetrodon in the franchise is how it would've been brought back. Knowing where the franchise is heading, they'd probably have to use time travel to get 'em

@eybaza6018

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@@garagecna2343 Not even talking about it's design being among the worst in franchise when it comes to accuracy, as a very avid Synapsid fan myself, I'm interested in them just as much as dinosaurs, so seeing it and Lystrosaurus get messed up(the head in Dominion was wrong even though Lystrosaurus is one of the most common fossil animals in the world) hurts me even more.

I thinking about creating a survival horror story with fictional dinosaurs, similar to primal but without fantasy aspects. If the dinosaurs are fictional, and only partially based on real dinosaurs, there is a lot more room to play with. But I still want to them to be portayed as realistic animals. Here are some ideas: A giant 11-13 meter long theropod which is a mix between a Tyrannosaurus and a Carnotaurus. They have horns but the horns of the males are massive and point forward. Most of the time they don't even use them to fight against other males, but they mostly just use them to show their age, size and strenght. The females are slightly larger. Once a female has chosen a mate, they stay together for their entire life. Extremely protective towards eachother, their young and their territory. If they have offspring, one parents (regardless of gender) will hunt and the other will stay at their young. They even tolerate their grown up independent offspring within their territory, but only as long as there is enough food. They are about as smart as a Tyrannosaurus was. The second animal is similar to a Deinonychus. Similar in size as well looks. The males have striking colored feathers. However, there are certain regional variations in color, they could potentially be subspecies. They show similar mating behavior to the previous animal, but they sometimes cooperate with other individuals to hunt down bigger prey. But sometimes, if there are enough resources, a couple will allow their offspring, as well as their partners and offspring to stay within their territory, basicly forming a pack-like family. In those families they are social, care for eachothers offspring and hunt together. But only as long as there is enough food. They can be quite curious around humans and new things, however, they do view humans as prey. They also have a special ability, this beeing venom similar to that of a komodo dragon, which causes animals to bleed out, helpful for bigger prey. But they also eat smaller prey, including fish and large insects. They are about as intelligent as a wolf or a crow. They can be tamed but only if a human cares for them since they're young. The last animal is a tall 2,5 - 2,8m (height, not lenght) theropod dinosaur. It has many characteristics of avian and non avian dinosaurs. It's body is similar to an ostrich, but way more bulky. It has a large, sharp beak without teeth, similar to to Terror birds. It has long arms with claws and a long tail. They have feathers all over their body, except their lower legs. The males have beautiful feathers in beautiful colors and combinations (regional variations exist). They are also much bigger than the females. The females often live alone but are not territorial. They are omnivorous, but mostly just eat fruits and large insects as well as some small animals. But they sometimes scavenge. Rarely they hunt larger prey (but still smaller than themselves). They even hunt fish in some areas. Altough the females can be dangerous, they mostly run away if there is danger. The males on the other hand are extremely aggressive and territorial against anything that aren't females of it's species. Their kicks are deadly. Their feathers and thick hide protect them from most attacks, like arrows or sometimes even bullets. This also protects them from the venemous bites of the previous Deinonychus like animal. They are extremely fast and will chase anything it seems as an intruder for a large distance. The males will mate with any female within their territory, but they still mostly live alone, similar to the females. The males also show no parental care. You could say they are similar to deer. The males fight against eachother by kicking and jump-kicking. They are not that intelligent. They behave very primitive and show no social behaviour.

The part of the Dino’s being animals, I think did an ok job with blue, because blue does flip flop around between bad and good

Accuracy doesn't make a dinosaur or hitstoric movie great what it count is everything else. Great story solid characters and cinematography. 300,the ghost and the darkness,Primal,King Kong 2005,And all those Vietnam war movies we all love. Are great examples of this. Much like Hoopsanddinoman said in his vintage paleoart video there is still great artistic value with in them. even now a days we can make fun with all their inaccuracies and flaws.

It’s annoying when people complain about Jurassic park but being accurate when it is even said in the films that they are genetically engineered monsters they are not ment to be accurate

@kade-qt1zu

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Even though Jurassic World Dominion completely butchers that idea.

@jurassicjack9571

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@@kade-qt1zu that is why I said Jurassic park

@kade-qt1zu

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@@jurassicjack9571 Oh my bad. I'm just so used to Jurassic World stans spamming this idea.

This is a really good vid

I personally think the first Jurassic World was really good, but I do admit that its sequels either completely lost perspective or disregarded the initial passion in favor of the nostalgia-pandering that we see very often nowadays, which is a shame because I think that Jurassic World was a great way to set a new era in the franchise.

6:51 that raptor is creepy with or without feathers, its all in the shadows, lack of lighting, the eyes glowing, the weird cocky movements the raptor does, feathers do nothing. you can say a pack of naked wolves or a giant naked bear is equally scary as the fuffy ones because they're still dangerous predators. so just saying feathers = scary is factually non-sense.

@raptormage2209

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I wanna see those people walk up to a feathered Utahraptor and tell it in its face that it isn't scary

@Friendofthescavs

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Feathers don’t stop something from being scary

@raptormage2209

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@@Friendofthescavs cassowaries for example, or Shrikes or just birds in general, birds are scary, saying that dinosaurs aren't scary with feathers is like saying Jaguars aren't scary cause of their fur.

@jackmills7758

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@@raptormage2209 feathers are the last thing that makes it scary haha

@raptormage2209

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@@jackmills7758 What makes it scary is the size, sickle like toe claws and how we don't know how they will kill you, they might eat you alive

I think paleo media that doesn't want to be accurate should lean more into fantasy/horror elements instead of this weird middle ground that's not gonna please people who want movie monsters but also not gonna please people who want the them to look and feel like real animals As much as I wish Ark 2 were going in a more accurate direction, at least they're going out of their way to make much more fantastical versions of the dinosaurs by accentuating their main features (like their new carnotaurus having almost bull-like horns) Either way, loved the video and I'd be super happy to watch more videos from you about paleo media content other than just games

@tooevol

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It is a game after all! It whouldnt be ark if it was accurate! Especially since it has so many fantastical creatures already

You spoke a good amount of the portrayal of the Jurassic franchise dinosaurs, but i wish you covered more on the physical inaccuracies of the dinosaurs in other media. I seen 65 last night, and while the movie was enjoyable, me and my partner could not understand why in 2023, we still fail to get a sci-fi, action, slight horror type movie, with accurate dinosaurs in appearances. They looked more like aliens than actual dinosaurs, a feathered T-Rex or Velociraptor is still just as terrifying. The Pyroraptor appearance, even the feathers on the JP3 Velociraptors were just brilliant improvments. I hope you will speak about this in more detail once you seen 65 in a future video, as i think its time for accuracy to be brought into fiction.

@ScanovatheCarnotaurus

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Complaints on accuracy have been done over and over.

@yuyaricachimuel555

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As Scanova said, it’s not fair to want accuracy in every single piece of dinosaur media. It isn’t wrong to stylize dinosaurs for fiction in whatever way. The real problem is 65’s dinosaurs barely resemble dinosaurs and just look like boring knockoffs, not even aliens. If anything for dinosaurs in fiction, we should be able to use our current knowledge to whatever extent to make something more unique, and not only 100% accurate.

@JackassJunior627

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@@yuyaricachimuel555 true, but would that really harm anyone. It’s 2023, not 1933. Our research has come far and beyond that really there isn’t an excuse for the inaccuracies. Add the odd bit we don’t fully know of course such as roars, or do adult rexes loose feathers etc. but come on give us accurate sized Velociraptors, gliding pterosaurs or sonething.

@yuyaricachimuel555

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@@JackassJunior627 like I said there’s nothing wrong with doing anything you want. If anything it *would* be refreshing to have accurate dinosaurs in a fictional movie, but really no one should limit their creativity to either extreme. Me, for example, I’m gonna blend accuracy with fantasy for the dinosaurs of my own project.

@JackassJunior627

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@@yuyaricachimuel555 oh I know what your saying Dw about that. Still add some creativity like I said, but overall we need the accuracy. Obviously Jurassic Park can get away with it because it’s a well established franchise and already tried giving in universe explanations. But other than that, like 65, it’s bit much now.

15:30 - 15:40 has gotta be one of my favorite parts of my video the way he said mf out of no where caught me off gaurd😭😭