Jeep needs to: Lower prices, provide better quality vehicles, and fix the corrosion issue!

@markclaypole1573

16 күн бұрын

Amen

Raised prices 50%, can't figure out where the customers went.

@SpyderDan1985

18 күн бұрын

It’s hilarious how Stellantis pretended not to understand. I guess it’s more that they don’t care.

@hailtothe_rooster1572

17 күн бұрын

I almost got a 0 mile ‘22 power wagon that’s been on the lot since delivered They still wanted to add 15k on top after we discussed the sale. The sales manager dropped the ball. Not my salesman, finance was fine with me cutting a check, the sales manager tried like hell to get me to leave for no reason. So I did

@gaybrialavery

14 күн бұрын

Prices to buy went up.. and prices to sale a used Jeep not worth anything pretty much. A lot of people including my self are way upside down in the Jeep..

@FRWD_FXLRST

13 күн бұрын

Over 60%.

Jeep seriously needs to cut prices. Alot of my friends would buy a Jeep but the cost stops them from going past just looking at them.

@backwoodstherapy

17 күн бұрын

As long as people pay the prices, they'll charge them.

@janicescott5776

17 күн бұрын

@@backwoodstherapy agreed

@toddpope2134

5 күн бұрын

@@backwoodstherapy Well they aren't paying them anymore. Drive by any jeep dealership and you will see at least 30 on the lot at any given time.

Cut prices. Not dealer prices but actual MSRP. They will start to move

Here's my story. I've been searching for months to buy a 3rd vehicle for the house. I really wanted to do a second gladiator even though I already own a fully loaded rubicon gladiator and rubicon wrangler. I was seriously shopping the gladiator against the 4runner, tacoma, ford bronco and finally the Chevy colorado. I ended up springing for the Colorado ZR2 Bison which is a colorado built by AEV. For $62k I could get a vehicle with steel bumpers, bead lock rims, 4.5" lift, 35" tires, etc etc etc all with a warranty. There is nothing that compares to that trim level of Colorado. It has cameras all around including underneath, larger screen size (probably comparable to the 24 Jeep screen), locking diffs, etc etc. It even has blind spot monitoring, cross lane detection, adaptive cruise control, backup sensors, etc. All the stuff anyone would want for the urban environment. Jeep can't match that price. They're not even close. I have an appointment that I'm waiting on for them to install the winch and snorkel and for $66k total I have a full decked out offroad vehicle with everything. Believe it or not, my '23 Gladiator cost more last year than the Colorado Bison did this year. So Jeep needs to up their game on the pricing. I still believe in and support Jeep and I absolutely love the brand but I am never going to be a wagoneer owner or some little putt putt Italian jeep owner. I want a wrangler or a gladiator but it has to be my way and goodness sakes if anyone from Jeep is watching stop with the special colors only available for a month shtick.

At the risk of sounding redundant…the entire Jeep lineup is severely overpriced.

It’s wild to me that jeep won’t fix the corrosion issue and keep prices high…. Don’t even get me started on the 3.6 v6 with the ticking noise either

I had Jeeps for 20 years. Last year I ordered a 24 Willys two door manual and after 20 weeks at confirmed I moved on and bought a 23 Defender 90. I have no regrets canceling the Jeep order and doubt I’ll ever go back the way they are going with the electric models. Its also nice not driving a me too car, in 9 months I’ve only ever seen four other Defender 90’s on the road and I no longer have people leaving stupid ducks on my car.

I just got my 1st Jeep Wrangler this week, a 2024 Rubicon 4xe. The dealership was able to offer a better deal on this year's model than last year's. I got about 18K off the sticker price.

@ConscientiousObserver

16 күн бұрын

And how much was that?

@dnrexy

15 күн бұрын

18k!? Tell me your secrets. I’ve been back and forth with the dealership for two weeks now on a jeep that’s been sitting there since February 9th. Lowest I’ve gotten them to is 9k under.

@kdvilla1148

15 күн бұрын

@@ConscientiousObserver sticker price said 68K, I got it for 50K

@kdvilla1148

15 күн бұрын

@dnrexy I think it was just good timing for me. There were a bunch of instant rebates for electric vehicles when I went shopping. I was really close to getting a 2023 Grand Cherokee 4xe due to those rebates + needing to clear the lot of older models. When I saw that, I immediately looked for a 2023 Wrangler 4xe in "my" color thinking they'd have a similar deal. Since Wrangler's are special, they weren't running the same discounts. I just got really lucky the deals were on a 2024. If you haven’t already, run Car Finder. That way you at least have some number to fight with

@dnrexy

15 күн бұрын

@@kdvilla1148 thanks I will check that out!

1:23 that is what paid for my 2023 wrangler 392 brand new fully loaded.

$73k for a Gladiator is insane. Thats near TRX money

@davethrasher4124

17 күн бұрын

If I'm spending 73k or more for a truck, it'll be something like the High Output 6.7 Powerstroke, not a quarter ton truck.

2 minute meeting at Jeep board room. We are cutting prices in half. Jeeps for everyone. Problem solved. Also we are getting rid of all of the dealerships. Online order like Tesla

No one should feel bad for them. The poor sales are a direct result of their greed and pricing tactics.

@davidbottles3035

7 күн бұрын

Don’t forget the UAW as they are adding tremendous cost to the vehicle price.

My 22 Gladiator thankfully is a lease and i cant wait to get rid of it. 1st check engine light came on around 800 miles for multiple misfires. That continued to happen for several months off and on. At 17k miles the ridiculous start/stop left me stranded at a stoplight . It had to have a new fuse block/harness, It took 8 weeks to get it back from the shop. Im at 27k miles and i just noticed all of the paint bubbling on the edge of the hood. My Gladiator was overpriced and low quality, it is my 1st and last jeep.

Jeep prices have gotten ridiculous. When you’re getting into the $70k+ range it opens up a much larger market of “off road” vehicles that you can get for that money (grenadier, lexus gx, Land Rover defender not to mention the bronco or Toyota refreshes). All that being said I bought a 23 gladiator recently for the huge discounts and love it

Like everyone here is saying… the prices are just too high for a Jeep! 4xEs are taking over dealer lots! Especially here in New England. And for only 25ish miles on a charge, it doesn’t seem worth the $55k-60k price tag! And It’s not easy to find a non hybrid Jeep Wrangler around here either. And they’re still over priced. As far as gladiators. A cool idea sure, but for the price… I don’t think so. I see some discounted ones up here. But honestly, the discount price, should be the MSRP!!!

Just my take -- probably because I'm 6'6" tall and 270 pounds -- but I'm probably going to be buried in my 2019 JLU Rubicon 2.0 Etorque, which now has 50k trouble-free (knock on wood) miles on it. I paid $43,000 for it in June of '20, and it came with 35" KO2s, the beefed up tire-carrier, MOPAR lift, and other dealer-installed goodies. It since has been regeared to 4.88, been fitted with KM3 37s, and has a Rhino Pioneer platform, WARN winch, and it's been all over Colorado and Utah. Still gets 21 mpg on the highway cruising at 65 (It's a Jeep, not a 'Vette). To pay almost twice that for the current models (which have even smaller interior cabin space owing to reconfigured soundbar, taller seats and curtain airbags) seems absolutely nuts to me. Clearly I'm not Stellantis' ideal customer, notwithstanding that Dutch people are among the tallest in the world, on average. Why they keep making Jeep interiors smaller and more cramped is anybody's guess. And the prices are giggle-worthy: Europeans (prolly because of crazy luxury taxes and import duties) regard Jeeps as "luxury vehicles" for the crazy rich, and that's reflected in the stupid pricing. A "readjusted" attitude (and pricing structure) is way overdue.

Wait till the Gladiator 4xe drops for $120k lol

@mikesters3532

18 күн бұрын

My wife has a Wrangler 4xe. At best, it’s gets about 26 miles on full electric. What a joke. That equals to about 1.5 gallons of gas. Not worth all the extra complexity and weight for that! Give me a larger fuel tank all day over the electrified crap!

@Pollitodc5

18 күн бұрын

@@mikesters3532sorry to hear that I get 22mpg on a JTR

@plaquatra

18 күн бұрын

@mikesters3532 a 4xe gladiator would work great for me since it's my daily driver. I have a short commute with free charging stations at work but there ain't NO way I could afford one

Bottom line: Jeep priced themselves out of the market. Now they're paying the price.

I'm waiting for the prices to drop. I'm like a Caiman alligator waiting patiently.

I just bought my first jeep (4xe Willys). First dealership wouldn't budge on the price. The 2nd dealership gave me a decent deal. I'm happy!

I live in Toronto and used to have a 24 jeep wrangler. Let me tell you what is happening in Canada right now. Since the end of last year, I know at least 6 people who have had their jeep/ram stolen, including mine. In less than 5 minutes, the vehicle could been driven away without a key. Jeep only knows how to raise prices but is unwilling to do anything to upgrade the theft prevention system. All of these users who lost their cars were forced to turn to other brands. GOOD JOB, JEEP!!!!

Yeah, prices in Canada have put on sale for June of a $4000 saving, big whoop! A Wrangler RUBICON X in Canada (Which I Want) is $86K CDN, then $4K off… $82K CDN for a square box basically. I don’t think so! Prices need to start dropping drastically!

@markclaypole1573

16 күн бұрын

Ya, 5% off is insulting. 20% is more realistic.

@manitobasky

12 күн бұрын

I’m still seeing dealers charging over msrp in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, only a few but how dumb can you be.

I think people are tired of rising prices to crazy amounts that no one can afford . And they choose to do what i did and rebuild the jeep they had . I had jeep drop a new crate engine in my jeep and did trand , front and rear diffs and all suspension parts front and rear.. in total i have $12,000 in it and the body is perfect and rust free , so basically i got a brand new jeep with no payments.. so $12,000 vs. $70,000 its a no brainer…

Heck yeah! I went Jeeping in Ocala National Forest in my TJ!! Loved it!! Can't wait to do it again!

In Germany the JL was around 50.000 to 60.000€. Now it's 70.000 to 85.000€. It's just crazy.

JEEP GANG! 🔥 you gotta pay to play 👍

Sir it’s across the board for almost the entire car market. I visited a few dealers recently and the only one that actually had customers buying; was Mazda. So I went in and found out they had 0% for five years or 3.9 financing for 72 months. Also no mark ups and courtesy window tinting plus they were not forcing people to buy protection packages. The CX 50 and C5 was the model selling the most; I mean even the basic model included AWD with LED lights and on the inside soft touch material and the interior space was good; very utilitarian vehicle overall and well priced. This dealership is new in our town and I got to say; I have seen an increase of Mazda’s on the road.

Nicholas- nice viewer rig! Thanks for all updates Matt and Ryab

Got my brand new factory order Willy's for a great price. Love it ! Ceramic coated it myself too!

Jeep has lost their damn mind with the prices They are going to lose out on a generation of customers. People,would buy the cheap version, and as they grew older (aka got a better job and had more money) would be repeat customers with higher trims and more $. I was configuring a 2 door rubicon on their website and it’s $55-60+ K. That’s is absolutely insane

Local dealerships here in the Phoenix market are discounting Gladiators for anywhere between $10k to $16k. Some dealers have brand new 2023’s still on the lot.

You are right on all of this. After owning seven jeeps, four of them wrangler's(CJ,TJ,JK,JL), while I really like my 2023 4xe. It might be my last Jeep, my brand loyalty has been cracked slightly.

Hey guys! I ordered a 2Dr Rubicon Xtreme 35” package (22Y) and received it 3 weeks ago! Great SWB Jeep with all the bells-n-whistles.

It's missing one thing that would really help........................the 392😝

@scottleggejr

17 күн бұрын

Anything with more power. I could NEVER daily anything but the 392.

Basically the exact Jeep from 2024 compared to a 2020 model has a 9k MSRP difference. They got greedy.

I have a 2024 Willys (Anvil) extreme recon sitting under my carport right now. ✌🏻

That screen shot is from Reed Jeep. My experience was in the KC area, but I don't know if they're in other markets. I went there when I was trying to buy a Gladiator and there was a lot of fine print. You had to have a 2017 or newer Jeep to trade in with less than 75k miles, had to be active duty or a veteran, had to live in certain zip codes, had to finance a certain amount, etc. I went to several dealers in the area and their advertisements were all a similar scam. One said you had to have a specific year Prius to trade in. I also have Reed ads for 25k off of a new 4xe in my FB feed.

Just took delivery of my ordered Tuscadero Pink Willys. 35” tire package NOT available however it looks fantastic with 33”s. Jeep offered $4000 factory discount (on Willy’s 4 door) and $2500 from the dealer. So my loaded (every option) Willy’s was $49,999 +ttl. I’m happy 😃

Saw an extreme recon two door at Bantam Jeep Fest this weekend.. not on display but an older lady was driving it! High Def Yellow

Prices are huge & jeep.....needs to take the 1st step - so rest of car dealers/vendors do it....I honestly more I look n watch reviews think I'm going to go with a Gladiator Mojave ...towing, need for some "truck bed space" plus ...factory is a solid mid size vehicle that's very capable. I love the 4 door wranglers...but think I need the bed plus tow...and mostly will be normal road driving...which fox shocks n all it's set for, along with if off road needed it can...I'm not looking to rock crawl at this time. Love you guys and Chanel please keep doing what your doing!!

Wife had been wanting an Earl Wrangler 4xe since probably Spring 2023, but the prices of jeeps have just gone up wayy to much over the years. For example, my brother picked up a Sahara Unlimited ~2017 for like 35k he said (New too). That same vehicle is like 60k now. Well, we bided our time and back in April of this year the deals kept piling up and we pulled the trigger. Got ~12k off in total: -3750 EV credit, -1000 TDM credit, -3000 Jeep cash, -750 dealer discount, and finally -3500 F&F incentive. Took us until all these discounts to be able to afford it.

Yes, I have seen a 2dr extreme recon package. Coworker has one and he got it about a month ago

I got a 2023 heavily discounted then changed my mind and got the 2024 with more equipment. I can’t wait to know how the gladiator sales will end up like

I just picked up a 2 dr Rubicon X w/ 35" Xtreme Recon package yesterday... It was the first one that popped up in inventory in my state (I was stalking the national website). Jeep's website actually still said it was "in transit", but it was delivered (saw this with several others in my region). The dealer had another one as well, but I think it just sold since it's removed from both their dealership website as well as Jeep's.

I've seen one 2 door xr in my area

Why would I buy a $70k Gladiator when I can get a Nissan Frontier for Pro 4X $39k? I like the Gladiator better than the Frontier, but not $30k more.

@KiLLaGusT

13 күн бұрын

I got my 24 JTR for 48k so I think some dealers are realizing they need sales for the sales, only reason I bought it cause it was MSRP 65k

I got a Gladiator Sport S max tow 2024 for 10% off invoice when i ordered it.

This is my first Jeep, it's in service already even tho I got with 12 miles on it. If you are charging these prices, your quality best meet that price point first.

Was looking yesterday at JT Gladiators; can get a Gladiator Rubicon or Mojave X package for $8,000 at nearly all our local dealers here in Missouri which was bringing most of them under $60k. I'm sure better deals are had if you look more

Jeep, like Toyota and other dealers are charging way too much money for vehicles that, in reality don’t demand the high prices. All of these companies have priced themselves out of the market. Unless they change their pricing they will continue to loose money.

Great vid. Matt. I appreciate the authenticity of questioning a $80000 gladiator (after tax/titl/reg fees) with some spruced up paint. We can still love our Jeeps, but point out some of the faults. Stellantis has to understand that I’m not drinking the Kool-Aid.

I sti I still Have my 1999 wrangler, still running, i think it was the last before they switched companies. Ast of the best❤️

I was thinking the same thing Dirt Road Cred... where are the announcements for the 25s. Especially the 4xe gladiator. I would guess they were waiting for the detroit auto show in sept. But the Detroit auto show was moved back to January 2025. Jeep is acting very odd lately. They need to cut 5 to 10k on every trim. Their prices are insane! As always. Love your videos. Have the best jeep news around. Much appreciated!

I'm seeing over 20k off on some new '23 Gladiators here in my area.

prices are ridiculous. all they do is come out with all of these "editions" and packages to just give an excuse to jack the price up even higher.

ty 2024 wrangler removed most options also? no more half doors was one package removed! nyc

Thanks for acknowledging the ridiculousness of Jeep pricing. They better wise up. My Rubicon X cost way too much (but I still love it, just not sure it's worth the price). Now you can get a Lexus GX for less (in some cases), a Toyota Land Cruiser for less, and a 4Runner for less, etc. Compared to the higher end Jeeps...not good and will not be good for sales in the long term.

Love our 21 JL and would love another jeep but price jumps in 3yrs of 20k is ridiculous

I bought a Jeep Rubicon 2.0 with nothing out of this world in September 2023 for 65k, the same Jeep this summer 2024 costs 15k less. with a lot of extras for free. I feel like I've been robbed.🤬

I would buy an XR Gladiator.

I don’t understand how anyone buys a Jeep right now .. the folks who do are ludicrous and live life on the edge and just don’t give a shit about interest

I love Jeeps for what they are but for an unreliable poorly made vehicle the prices are insane. I was going to replace my 2015 wrangler with a gladiator but now moving to Toyota this time around.

@scottleggejr

17 күн бұрын

Yep. It's a solid axle minivan based on what it shares the bulk of its powertrain with. 🤣

I can say that I we'll be holding on to our two Jeep Wranglers. My wife has a 2012 Unlimited Sahara in Gecko Green and I have a 2018 Unlimited Sahara JL in Firecracker Red. Both were purchased new off the dealer lot and have color match hard tops and fenders. Knowing what I know now, I would have bought a Rubicon for the lockers and transfer case, but realistically these Sahara's have been more than capable for the level of offloading I do, which is not to say just super easy, but I don't rock crawl either. With WFH during the last few years, I've only got 32K miles on mine. I suspect there are a lot of us out there with low miles for the same reason, which is one of the factors behind the new car market challenges. I looked at swapping out to a new Diesel Wrangler Rubicon or a new Gladiator during the pandemic and all the dealers in my area were pricing above MSRP which I have not ever been willing to pay.

How about engine choices. Make the Hurricane available for both the Wrangler, and the Gladiator. How about buying the 3-liter 6 diesel and the 10-speed Allison from GM, and make them available for Wranglers, and Gladiators. Jeeps used GM running gear in the past. I also think that the prices are too high. I don't think that Stellantis' management has a clue about the Jeep Pathos in North America, or the loyal Jeep people that have kept Jeep alive thru a litany of ownership since WW2.

The Extreme Recon package isn’t available on Jeeps build and price for a 2-door Willys …… would think really hard about ordering if they threw a nice discount at it when made available

I hv a 2010-2024 jk i luv but i would like a new one. Prices are not only too high they are WAY too high!

Do you know if in PA we’re allowed to remove our doors finally?

I bought my 2018 JL for a touch over $30k exactly 5 years ago and my 2023 Rubicon Gladiator for $41k three months ago. $71,000 to have 2 Jeeps in my driveway. I’m good for the time being. But many do not have the perfect timing that I’ve had in purchasing my vehicles. Even the salesperson who sold me it said she was upside down, buried in debt in her 2022 Wrangler. I have about $2k in upgrades and accessories, 35’s and a heck of a lot of fun. But at these prices these last few years… No way am I going to get a new one… unless I see a 2-door Tuscadero XR, with 4.88s. I’d sell 1, or both, in a heartbeat to buy one of those.

I love my JL2D and my JT but dam, do they give you a reach around with these prices??

I want a really good deal on a 2024 jeep wrangler, Rubicon two-door X with a 35 inch wheel and tire package so hopefully this should help

I got a great deal in Dade city. Jim Brown jeep. Almost $5000. Off of my 24 sport s 4 door

There’s two things keeping me from considering a used or new JL. Price (new) and corrosion (New and Used). I’m seeing resale on JLs are fairly reasonable but I suspect the corrosion has a lot to do with it. I would understand corrosion on a 10-15 year old Jeep but it’s popping up in 12-18 months on some cases.

Jeep really needs to cut their prices. They’re just too much!

NOTHING is selling like it used to…come on guys…ask Toyota about it.

They increase prices so much that few can justify buying them

I’m looking at trading my 22 rubicon for 24 Willy’s 4XE and prices are down since I’ve been looking in 2024.

I have a 2020 JLU Sport. I honestly love it but will never buy another one. My paint is bubbling around all of the hinges and the hood. I’ve had a warranty claim in since November 2023. The hood and drivers door are on back order with no eta. The dealership told me it might be another year. I was considering a 2024 till this issue popped up. Stellantis is well aware of this epidemic with the paint but simply refuses to openly admit it. Looks like a new Bronco is next.

LOL They should have put a 5.7 Hemi in that Gladiator at that price, (IF they wanted it to sell)! Well, The 'Compass' grill sux on both Wranglers & Gladiators. Eurotrash run Jeep into the ground. Look what they did to Dodge! Glad I have my 22 392 wrangler and my 21 Mojave. Well, the economy sucks,

Increased prices, low quality, no wonder sales are tanking. My 2020 rubicon needs repainted now because of the hinge bubble. 4 years old, wow.

I think for the gladiator if they dropped prices and offered the xtreme recon 35 package they would sell like hotcakes especially since you can basically get a just as capable zr2 or at4x with 35s for cheaper

@joshbravo6015

18 күн бұрын

Especially since the gladiator looks kinda goofy with 33s on them

Waiting until gladiator is offered in an XR to buy

Would have already ordered a 2-door, Xtreme Rubicon, except for the fact that it is only available with the 2.0L Turbo 4 cylinder engine. If and when it is available with the 3.6L, V6, I will order one.

@category5bronado15

18 күн бұрын

Ironically I’m wanting to order a 4 door XR but they are only allowing 3.6 orders right now and I want a 2.0 😂

@PuffyDucks

18 күн бұрын

I bought a 23 rubicon wrangler with the 2.0 and traded it within 6 months. Liked the pep of the engine but hated the way it sounded (imagine a weed wacker on wheels). Now have 23 rubicon gladiator with 3.6. It doesn’t have as much pep off the line but I’m not felt myself wanting or needing anymore power in any situation…yet.

@DUNEATV

18 күн бұрын

Smart man…I love my 3.6! Smooth and reliable…cheap to repair/replace after many years down the road.

@category5bronado15

18 күн бұрын

I’ve owned both and greatly prefer driving the 2.0. I rarely hear it but I do agree that it’s not the best sounding engine lol.

Can you verify that the Hurricane eng doesn't have dip sticks for oil or transmission oil?

I do think msrp is high but I also think customers demanding all the modern luxuries and safety features in a jeep is driving the prices up.

@estebanlopez5016

18 күн бұрын

I have not known anybody to ask for luxury or safety in a Jeep. I can do without the big touchscreen and it telling me to stay in my lane.

@leemen

18 күн бұрын

@@estebanlopez5016 I’m the same way. But that’s not the norm. As a jeep shop owner I can tell you people want more electronics and higher end interiors and all the trick whoha that comes in a 6 figure Mercedes. All those options come at a cost.

18k discounts definitely just for advertising to lure you coming to their dealership. Obviously you didn’t see the extremes fine prints 😂 people who tell you they bought for 18k discounts surely trying to convince themselves they got a deal 😅

@leemen

18 күн бұрын

I haven’t seen $18k off msrp in person but I have seen $16k and bought at $15k under.

Zr2s are going for $45k. Bugs are now just about worked out. No brainer.

They're just too damn high I got a 21 gladiator and I waited for the sarge green 62000 Charleston South Carolina

“difference in the pricing structure” - aka not price them in the stratosphere

The 392 would be their top seller IF they dropped the price to a mid 50k “sport” type base option 60k for higher trims

What sucks is when they want to low ball you when you try and sell a jeep back to the dealership at one point they where happy to take them back.

I thought the they was going to be putting the Hurricane motor in the jeep.

@scottleggejr

17 күн бұрын

It's a dumpster fire in the 1500. They need to sort it out there first then bring it to jeep.

They have so many quality issues I just started shopping for one and they have bubbled paint everywhere just 2 years old. Insane. I really want a wrangler but I think I’m going to stick with my Toyota a little longer.

Get 24s sold?! I’m in south Jersey and they’re still trying to get rid of 23s and hardly budging on prices

Has anyone seen the dealer in Utah offering a ‘Buy One, Get One 5O% Off’ on the 2023 Gladiator?

In Canada you cannot order a 2024 rubicon wrangler 4 door extreme recon in any trim or configuration.

the thing is the whole entire economy is expensive. in order to live the life style you lived 2 years ago, you need to earn 11,000 more per year, And raises haven't got there yet.

Noticed that there is no half doors on the option list for Wranglers and few colors were removed.

@lordrayden3045

18 күн бұрын

I did notice they cut the color options

It's only a good deal if you're trading a paid off vehicle or paying cash and need a new car, truck! Trade values are in the schitter for now.

Recently test drove a 24’ grand Cherokee 4xe. 60k and it didn’t feel premium and the seat recliner control unit had a huge gap in between the seat and the unit. Poor quality for luxury money. I could get an Acura MDX for 10k less