unleashed wii/ps2 aren't here since they're basically an entirely different game from their HD counterparts, with completely different levels. please stop commenting about it, i am aware of its existence and even use it as an example at 0:19. also i completely forgot about the Classic Collection on until someone mentioned it in the comments, it's probably worse than the Sonic & Knuckles Collection since it has some mild screencrunch, lag, and lower quality sound effects. someone also mentioned the ultimate genesis collection since it doesn't allow you to lock Sonic 3 onto Sonic & Knuckles and similarly has some sound issues. Really depends if the S&K collection's midis are a dealbreaker for you, though.

@SMPandanic

2 ай бұрын

honestly being the version I play the most I like it.. also fun fact.. you can access the level select in the knuckles in sonic 2 version... they got rid of it in normal sonic 2 and 3 but not 2 for some odd reason.. it's kinda funny though

@AbsnormalCoolest

2 ай бұрын

UNLEASHED HD IS DIFFERENT???? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES I GOTTA KNOW THIS

@AbsnormalCoolest

2 ай бұрын

also i love s&k pc midis

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

@@AbsnormalCoolest its basically a different game, wii/ps2 has different levels, controls, everything

@AbsnormalCoolest

2 ай бұрын

@@autumn7 is there still werehog also is there a mod for unleashed hd which restores features of og unleashed

clearly you've never played sonic unleashed on the worst laptop possible

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

...i mean thats not a bootleg or mod so i guess it technically doesn't violate my ruleset?

@SurfRay

2 ай бұрын

​@@autumn7the video *does* use mods but I guess you could just... not.

@Slimeonian

2 ай бұрын

Peak video mentioned. That video was hilarious lmao

@WanderfromSOTC

2 ай бұрын

I get ir

@isabkyes6507

2 ай бұрын

Ive seen that vid 😭

"Welcome to the Salty Spitoon. How tough are ya?" "I played Sonic Advance" "Yeah so?" "On the N-Gage." "Right this way sir."

@FirstRecords204

2 ай бұрын

sonic N is sonic advance... with a vertical aspect ratio. i don't think i need to explain why that's a problem

@DeskoDev

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget about the Java ME and Android ports too! - Java ME is pretty self-explanatory. Only Sonic is playable, it only has four of the zones (which aren't in the right order), wonky physics, cruddy music renditions. Different devices got different versions, but they're all cut down. Most have a vertical aspect ratio, but most at least show more on the top and bottom to compensate. The lowest end versions don't count per her criteria, at least, since they're a completely different game, but the others are bad. - There's two Android versions. The one we got was a port of Gameloft's version and is absolutely abysmal (bad touch dpad without a dedicated jump button - up is jump, still has MIDI music, life count, still missing stages, technical issues galore). It's an absolutely rancid port, one of the worst mobile ports in the franchise. - The other's a port that never left Japan by Sega themselves that I wouldn't put on this list, and is a lot more faithful to the GBA original (all content except the Tiny Chao Garden's intact including music and menus, physics feel much closer - rolling doesn't lock your jump movement), but it still has MIDI music (i.e. actual MIDI music) and is hard capped to 15 FPS. Unfortunately, it's a case where the gameplay logic's not designed to go above that, but all in all it's a far higher quality port than the others. Its framerate and lack of controller support are its only major shortcomings imo, which makes that all the more disappointing. They were so close! EDIT: Sent this a little unfinished, oops.

@PercyPanleo

Ай бұрын

​@@DeskoDevso I'm not insane about remembering playing an android version!

Now i wait "What's The Most MEDIUM Way To Play EVERY Sonic Game?"

@diamondgamer6482

10 күн бұрын

For the cross platform ones would be playing on Xbox one or ps4

2:12 the way his eyes are way too open and his finger wag going so fucking fast makes him look like he's on coke

@dragmire86

2 ай бұрын

sonic the crackhog

@Cinnabun9

2 ай бұрын

"Tails I just snorted a whole suitcase of coke"

@dragmire86

2 ай бұрын

@@Cinnabun9 “I just snorted a can of Pepsi!”

@silveramyknux241

Ай бұрын

*Breathes fast and heavy “Gotta Go Fast” “S S S S S SONIC SPEEEEED!!!!”

@silveramyknux241

Ай бұрын

Reminds me of that one Chariii5 video where he had Sonic constantly wanting speed. (It was a drug joke)

What's the worst way to play every Sonic games? Ask Arin Hanson, he'll show you.

@justyouraveragegamer6142

2 ай бұрын

This caught me off guard. So true lol

@playfulshiba5724

2 ай бұрын

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this xD

@burnum

2 ай бұрын

By skipping the tutorials and then complaining, that's how!

@innocentzbat

Ай бұрын

​@@burnumPurposely pulling off glitches nobody casually encounters, don't forget those!!

@Geneolgia

Ай бұрын

He'd definitely take notes on this video for the games he hasn't played.

I've always wanted Kay Faraday to tell me about the worst versions of every Sonic game

Sonic Advance has a port for the Nokia N Gage called "Sonic N". As far as I know it's 100% the same game, just with the sides of the screen cut off so that you're left with a thin vertical slice of visibility.

@Kribyking

2 ай бұрын

Don’t forget: sonic advance ALSO has j2me ports! Missing stages, fucked up physics, and more!

The Sonic CD intro isn't really AI upscaled. Not fully. It's incredibly intuitive, where animators will fix messed up frames from the AI, it's by far the best version of the intro we've ever gotten fidelity wise.

@ultrapyrusbrawler

2 ай бұрын

True; fidelity wise, it's probably the best the intro's ever gonna look, however, they messed up the audio sync, so it's still not without issues.

I'd argue the worst version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles would be the version that was released on Xbox Live Arcade, since it has a forced bilinear filter, pretty awful sound mixing and the outright removal of cheats and data select in favor of three save states.

@agreedboarart3188

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I was devastated upon realizing that I couldn't select a level afterwards. Got all of those Super Emeralds for nothing.

@WarioShaker

2 ай бұрын

Tiger electronics

@panoramhusky

2 ай бұрын

@WarioShaker that's not the same game, look at the rules in the video

@heavenlyderpfowl1180

Ай бұрын

nah, ugc is worse since it has no lock on so you miss out on half the game

@panoramhusky

Ай бұрын

@heavenlyderpfowl1180 yea I guess that does make sense but if we're talking about the combined game only then xbla would still take the spot

clearly you’ve never played sonic 2 while your parents are arguing in the other room /j

Regarding the performance of the modern version of SADX, as far as I know the problem is that they are using the Sleep() call in order to limit the framerate; Sleep() causes the game (well, technically the thread) to stop processing and give up the CPU for *at least* a certain amount of milliseconds; the problem is that it could well end up being over that amount. Due to various factors, the more powerful a computer is, the more likely the game is to sleep for a longer amount of time. This ends up creating a paradox on games that misuse sleep in this manner where the more powerful the system and the less resources being used, the worse the game performs.

@woshee_real

2 ай бұрын

This happens with Worms Ultimate Mayhem (Worms 4 Mayhem remake) strangely enough. It can be fixed with a unofficial anniversary patch.

This is probably what they meant by "Sonic was never good." They only played the bad ports of the games, not the good ones.

@Kitty255Again

2 ай бұрын

well its IGN so i wouldnt be surprised

@yasmineh.1333

2 ай бұрын

Ehhhhh IDK about that. Even if they played the good versions, Sonic critics are hellbent on engaging with Sonic in bad faith.

@Shrock568

2 ай бұрын

IGN just doesn’t get Sonic. Like, at all. They don’t like the games because they never play them right.

@justyouraveragegamer6142

2 ай бұрын

That and they're just terrible at video games in general tbh. Their footage is always facepalm worthy. It's like watching Arin Hanson play sonic games

@JustCallMeRaito

2 ай бұрын

@@yasmineh.1333 so they're biased?

I was not expecting to see my beloved kay faraday in a sonic video

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

i'm actually more of an ace attorney fan than a sonic fan nowadays. its just my favourite is aai2 and absolutely nobody would watch me if i made videos on the game with no localization that 3 people have played LMAO 😭

@combinesoldier14_real

2 ай бұрын

@@autumn7 I mean most people know what the prosecutor's path translation is. I'm actually in the middle of trying to beat AAI2 myself right now lol

@thereallifesaiyan

2 ай бұрын

​@@autumn7Is there a fan translation of AAI2 at least?

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

@@thereallifesaiyan yep, aai2 prosecutors path ^^

@Wertercat

Ай бұрын

@@autumn7Congrats on the localization

Came for the low framerates and glitches, stayed for Kay Faraday.

@nickelouscage

2 ай бұрын

Looks like an HD collection style Kay Faraday. They’re never going to give us AAI collection are they

"Worst way to play Sonic 06" Playing the game in general

The fact that I knew most of these shows what being a sonic fan is

Sonic 1 GBA was really bad to the point where a guy had to come in with a proof of concept homebrew port to show that it's possible to have game run smoothly and optimized. And the rest was "history" when 2017 came.

I'd argue that ultimate genesis collection is actually the worst way to play 3 & knuckles because it has no 3 & knuckles, they forgot to include lock on so you miss out on half the game

@MadChristoph

2 ай бұрын

Well they have Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. UGC wasn't too bad, had nostalgia with it

@heavenlyderpfowl1180

2 ай бұрын

@@MadChristoph check the title of the video

@33pandagamer

Ай бұрын

There are so many ports of just Sonic 3 or just Sonic and Knuckles, and there are barely any ports of the two games combined

@heavenlyderpfowl1180

Ай бұрын

@@33pandagamer which compilation other than any atgames systems (my best guess) were like that? It was only in jam, pc, mega collection(+), classics collection, ultimate genesis, wii vc, xbla, and steam, then there was the drought until origins. Only ugc didn't have lock on

For Sonic 3 & Knuckles, I wanna give a shout-out to Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection on PS3/Xbox 360. The emulation itself is fine but the fact that you can play both games separately but not together is such a tease. I also wanna mention the consoles from AtGames since technically they were an official way of playing the game. I remember I had one that had just Sonic & Knuckles and the sound quality was horrible.

Somewhere out there game grump is taking notes

@AkameGaKillfan777

2 ай бұрын

"What ways are there to play Sonic games? I need to list all of them."

@MrNoobNub

2 ай бұрын

Arin Hanson: Aw yeah! This is happenin'!

As someone who first played Sonic 3 on PC, it warms my heart to hear appreciation for the MIDI music. (Confession: I lowkey had a visceral reaction to the Genesis Carnival Night music upon playing that version years later.

I genuinely love playing SA1 in the canonical unfun way, I play as sonic until I unlock Tails then return to Sonic, when Tails gets saved,then play Sonic until you meet Knuckles, then play Knuckles playthrough till you fight Sonic, then go unlock Amy with Sonic, go play Amy and then Unlock Big and rinse and repeat & again with Gamma and finish the story off Super obviously. Extremely convoluted but its funny seeing the scenes basically back to back

I had to lower the volume for the first suggestion for the worst Sonic 1 version. That was complete ear rape.

It's worth mentioning about lost world that the steam release has lower animal requirements that make it so you don't need to grind almost at all, and if mods are relevant then you can get the DLC from the Wii U on the steam version anyway with the DLC restore

4:00 I would probably say the DS collection ("Sonic Classic Collection") version is a tad bit worse than the PC port imo. Choppy music, a lot of slowdown in some sections, and some really straining special stages lol

@jokx4409

2 ай бұрын

Despite all that it's still very playable and fun. I beat it multiple times on it. Which ig means there's really no bad way to play sonic 3

@mrperson9877

2 ай бұрын

@@jokx4409 true

@33pandagamer

Ай бұрын

I found this glitch in that version that only worked on vertical looping stages. Basically, the camera loses track of you so certain hazards despawn.

as someone who grew up with the Sonic and Knuckles collection, yeah it's probably fair to call it a major contender for the worst but it's a very servicable port and those midi songs (in both General FM and FM Synth) will forever be hella nostalgic to me and for a time i actually preferred them to the equivilent genesis versions (That was nostalgia talking but they aren't Terrible) Also fun fact even back on our old windows XP machine it'd randomly boot at like, 1000% speed for some reason? And sometimes it had negative colors??

I liked this, it was very informative. Here's a few more for fun. The worst way to play Sonic Spinball is on the GBA Sega Smash Pack. Aside from inevitable screen crunch issues, like not being able to see any of the text in bonus stages, there's only two songs in the entire game (title screen and toxic caves) and the sound effects are extremely crunchy. The worst way to play Sonic 3D Blast is arguably the PC version, since it has the worst special stages of the three. But the rest of the game is based on the Saturn version, so it really depends on how you feel about the Genesis version. The worst way to play Tails Adventure is through Sonic Adventure DX. The versions that offer Game Gear titles have Tails Adventure and Sonic Blast as 100% rewards. But for some reason, Tails Adventure has a very dark filter on it that you can't remove. You can still see the game, but not in its full color depth, thanks to this dumb filter. Speaking of, arguably the worst way to play Sonic Blast is the Master System version. It's unoptimized for the wider screen compared to Game Gear, resulting in very noticable and ugly graphical bugs such as a giant chunk of wall appearing and disappearing in areas of the final zone. The final boss arena's colors are also glitched. Still, it depends on how badly you want the wider view. Assuming you choose to play Sonic Blast at all. The worst way to play Sonic the Fighters is through the Gems Collection. The game is perfectly playable but has several graphical glitches, most notably in the Canyon Cruise (layering issues with river) and Death Egg's Eye (missing Earth and grey space) arenas, as well as the very laggy ending sequence.

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

I actually did mention 3D Blast PC in the script originally, but I didn't really have much to say beyond the special stages being worse so I just cut the segment since it's arguable whether or not it counts as a mainline game anyways.

@robertanderson9447

2 ай бұрын

I personally feel like it has more of a spin-off vibe, but I couldn't really articulate why.

@donovansantaella7861

2 ай бұрын

I think it's also worth noting that the PC version of 3D Blast is also missing several graphical effects from the Saturn version, and even has reduced color depth. This is due to the game being made with the lowest common denominator of PCs in mind to reach the widest possible demographic. At that rate, I'd say it definitely earns the worst version title.

@robertanderson9447

2 ай бұрын

@@donovansantaella7861 Good points.

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

@@donovansantaella7861 I didn't know that actually! I thought it was basically identical aside from the special stages, good to know.

For PS3 players of sonic games, I reccomend turning down the image resolution in the settings fron 1080p to 720p, it really helps with intensive games like the sonic titles, but even first party graphical power houses like Gran Turismo 5 & 6 (note: if the game is already capped to 720p resolution, it wont change a thing) Edit: if you also own a fairly new/modern smart TV, you'll probably have an upscaler built in, less strain on the PS3 is always good for both temperatures, framerate etc, and the only drawback is a slightly blurrier/less sharp image, but its still HD

@_memoryleak_

2 ай бұрын

huh. that’s weird. i played gens on 1080p and didn’t really notice framerate issues. as for unleashed, that wouldn’t really change a lot since it runs at anamorphic 720p. as for gran turismo, that doesn’t really affect much as those are already optimized for PS3 hardware although gt6 does drop in some more graphically intense areas although it never dips below the 30-40 FPS range

@rac1equalsbestgame853

2 ай бұрын

At least Unleashed can go as low 480p too. Idk, Gens and 06, don't have the them, but Gens is on the same engine as Unleashed so it might carry it over.

@rac1equalsbestgame853

2 ай бұрын

@@_memoryleak_Earlier games of the gen were made in a time before a full transition to flatscreens and support at least 480p. Whenever they did 4:3 too is a diferent story but the list of full SD support covers a good chunk of even late gen games. Very obviously, the RaCF games fully support SD with even a slighly diferent UI arangement and more zoomed out camera to make up for 4:3 when in it. And FULLY native with performance improvements included, ACiT goes from 50-60fps to perfect 60 and near perfect 60 on the areas it runs at 40fps in HD. Crazy 50% boost.

@_memoryleak_

2 ай бұрын

@@rac1equalsbestgame853 holy shit we actually could have a decently playable version of unleashed now (at the cost of subpar image quality but still)

@rac1equalsbestgame853

2 ай бұрын

@@_memoryleak_ These also apply to the 360 version as well tmk. If SD is of no bother like it is to me, at least Unleashed is helped by that.

this video was pretty cool! i like your editing style and the commentary is fun, ill definitely check out some of your other content :3

When I was little, I made do with the Steam port of SADX. I had no idea what I was missing out on, until one day I downloaded a mod on a whim and was blown away! The reason for Steam SADX's suckiness is how many layers of porting it had. The Steam version was based on the HD console versions, which were based on the PC version, which was based on the Gamecube version, which was based on the original. The damage was done with the Gamecube version, but each consecutive version broke the game even more.

9:36 The first time I played Superstars on Switch, it took *TWENTY SECONDS* just to get from the "Licensed by Nintendo" screen to the Sega logo

@skoggis6025

2 ай бұрын

What did you expect, all games run poorly on nintendo consoles. They (the consoles) are just bad

@pvzmariosonica8fan

2 ай бұрын

@@skoggis6025 Not all games

@skoggis6025

2 ай бұрын

@@pvzmariosonica8fan yes, all games.

@pvzmariosonica8fan

2 ай бұрын

@@skoggis6025 Maybe all 3rd-party games, but I've never had any issues with Mario games. I've never even had any issues with any of the other Sonic games I have on Switch either (besides Colors Ultimate, but I waited to buy that until the seizure glitch was patched out)

@skoggis6025

2 ай бұрын

@@pvzmariosonica8fan well of course the nintendo games work fine, but you aren't really suggesting that Sonic Forces and especially frontiers are even playable on the switch? I mean, I had render distance issues on the PS4 for christ's sake. The switch port looks like a ps2 game

Nice video, I was shocked to see how small your channel is! Very informative :)

Yes KZread I’ll watch a KZreadr I don’t know talk about bad ports of Sonic games. I’ll definitely subscribe. Also, Sonic Colors for DS is way better than Wii/Ultimate version. I know they are both completely different games but I’m standing my ground.

The fact that there exists a version of Sonic 1 that's even WORSE than Sonic Genesis is a literal accomplishment. Bravo Sega!

Evil Pariah695 be like:

@TheSultan1470

2 ай бұрын

Diareah

Now this is taking the sentence "asking for suffer" literally.

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Ай бұрын

Cool name

Glad to see another Marble Zone lover! Sweet video.

I found you through Corey in the Ded 3. This content is really cool, Good job on winning the algorithm.

6:30 Oddly sounds a lot like the high pitched Super Sonic Transformation sound that plays only in Doomsday Zone on the original version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I always loved that sound and I don't know why it was removed, it makes it feel more unique.

"Idk how to write outros' *proceeds to do a good outro*

Typically, when people at the end of the videos say to subscirbe, I don’t. But I genuinely enjoyed the video enough that I actually did. Bravo! Please continue to make banger content! ❤

Honestly, I don't even think SADX is bad on Gamecube. It does a lot of stuff wrong, but it's mostly graphical preferences. I have both the Dreamcast and the Gamecube versions, and they both see frequent play because DX has skipable cutscenes and an astronomically better chao garden that I don't need an entire VMU with no prior saves on it to play. Dreamcast still looks better though.

@autumn7

2 ай бұрын

the gamecube version is definitely the best version of DX but it got worse with time. 60fps and the ability to skip cutscenes are good additions but with how many graphical effects are just broken i still prefer the DC version. the 2004 PC port with the dreamcast conversion is the best way to go though, best of both worlds.

@Emberson-9000

2 ай бұрын

@@autumn7 Its also worth noting that the Gamecube controller was leagues better for the game. I love my dreamcast, but its controllers left much to be desired.

@Robbie_Haruna

2 ай бұрын

​@autumn7 It's kind of a mixed bag. On one hand, better performance, cutscene skip, and improved water effects (some areas it just looks less choppy in motion, other areas have wholly updated water entirely and nicer character models. But then there's the Dreamcast with better lighting, less bugs (mostly graphically, but some gameplay too,) and better character texturing to avoid the shiny look. The textures between versions are pretty much up to opinion. I prefer the more colorful Dreamcast set overall, but a more realistic look like in DX isn't bad either by any means and some areas are helped a lot by it. I'm still wondering what the fuck they did to the water on the modern ports to make it look like battery acid though.

Interesting video! A couple of ports that I think are worth at least mentioning: I've never played the Origins collection, but apparently Origins Sonic CD removes Sonic's voice, which for me is a big problem. Those little sound clips add so much to the game to me. There's a DS Sonic collection that includes Sonic 3 which has slowdown, to me it felt pretty unpleasant to play. Certainly not as awful as it could be, but sounds like the port of Sonic 3 you mentioned is probably more fun...Although I think the DS collection uses emulation, so I guess it might not count as a full port

@dravenmartinez6311

2 ай бұрын

It's not a port it's actually emulation made by some guy who made his own genesis emulator for ds and sega made him producer of classic collection

Really enjoyed the pacing and jokes! Keep it up!

This is such a creative vid😭😭Keep up the great content!!:)

3:54 just letting you know that some people from Kineko Video, the same guys that restored the '86 mario movie, restored the cutscenes in Origins, not ai. Aside from that small mistake, the video's good overall!

Ngl i like how you style your videos and your commentary, keep it up, you earned my sub

I’ve been looking for a channel like this that talks about sonic games in depth! instant subscribe

I played Heroes as a kid on GameCube and loved it so much. Played it on PS2 a couple years ago and regretted it. Unleashed was my favorite game on 360 for so long.

Best outro ever! Amazing video, I love it.

girl the worst way to play sa2b is on the 360, the cutscenes are widescreen, the wireless controller gets disconnected now and again (and only in the middle of stages, not in the chao garden or menus), the omochao tutorial is gone, which i get that its probably because of the voiceover of the gamecube buttons but ):, also the control mapping feels off if one has played sa2b on the gamecube, the camera is now mapped to the right joystick and reversed 😭😭😭😭😭😭

It's still really nice how we have a lot of these modern ports in the first place. Sure some of them aren't the best, but it's really nice of Sega to preserve these games to some extent.

Ok but acctually, the superstars load times go for ps5 too, it has happened to me every stage.

I'm like 20 seconds in and I can already tell your channel is peak

For the most recent SADX PC port to run properly, have your web browser open in the background. I'm not kidding.

i did not realize adventure dx was so much worse than the other versions of that game, getting that on Xbox 360 was my first exposure to it and it's still one of my favorite Sonic games out of any of them, i kind of want to try finding some other versions of that game too go through eventually now

This was a fun watch, found out there’s a potential worse sonic 1 port than genesis GBA is kinda insane lol

Really fun video! Keep it up, you're very entertaining. Now time for me to go play Sonic on the worst possible platforms I can get muahahahaha

7:01 another note about the ps2 version of shadow the hedgehog is that it has really long load times when skipping cutscenes. They actually rival 06 in length

Cool video but I think the awfulness of SA2's PC port was really understated lol Back when it came out it could very well been considered the worst PC port SEGA had ever put out, just so severely unstable (thing crashed CONSTANTLY), and even nowadays while it's way more stable it still crashes a lot without mods, and that's not mentioning the random pop-ups or how hard it is to close or issues with gamepads, it's really funny. And that's not even going into the issues that Battle introduced that aren't just graphical issues in the cutscenes. The game controls a LOT better in the Dreamcast version due to the analog deadzone being increased in the Battle ports (with rail grinding and the mechs in particular just being completely butchered) and only recently (last week or so) did a mod for the PC port release that fixes it lol

5:21 pretty shure that Dx isnt meant to be on modern PC and i have had problems with the game like only being able to play it windowed!

Having played Generations on 360 and PS3 I can also add that the PS3's load times were at least twice as long compared to 360.

2:53 Apparently, from what I've heard, it depends on screen resolution of the game IIRC. The wall is there for small ones... 3:12 The J2ME ports are separated into two parts: Dash and Crash. Dash starts at Emerald Hill and ends on Hill Top, while Crash is the rest. It's actually my first experience with Sonic 2, funnily enough. Also, there's Sonic Advance. There's Gameloft's chopped-down port.

Sonic Mania on Mobile works perfectly fine on a iPhone 13. Minus 1 or 2 frame drops I’ve experienced over my many 10s of hours of playing this game on my phone. And some sound issues. It’s the reason why I relearned my love for Sonic Mania.

Yes! Another Marble Zone fan! (Also I grew up with the gba Sonic 1. I think I gave up at labrynth zone 3.) (also also, the first time I ever beat sonic 2 was the Java flip phone version. It’s actually pretty fun to me.)

What's funny about the 360 vs. PS3 comparison for Sonic Unleashed is that the pros and cons of each are essentially elevated when played on the current gen consoles. The 360's more consistent frame rate was a pro, but a tough call since the game can never get over 30fps. But playing on the Series X, the frame rate is higher *and* more consistent than the PS3. Hell, even playing on emulator can't compete with the Series X, at least in my experience. The PS3 had potential for 60fps but barely ever reaches it, and isn't worth it with all the bugs. The PS5 can't play the game normally, and it has to be streamed via a Playstation Now subscription. Good luck hitting 60fps when all the in-game lag is topped with internet lag. And I can't even imagine what a nightmare the Day Stages are with input lag.

Oh my god I never realized the sonic games that I played were the worst versions. I grew up playing Sonic 1 on my dad’s old Motorola flip phone and the Sonic 3 and knuckles pc port. I think I still have the disc lying around too

The worst version of Sonic 3 is probably the one on the DS collection. The framerate is horrendous, and the special stages are borderline unplayable.

In my opinion the origins version of Sonic 3 is the worst. The midis from the S&K Collection do have a certain charm to them, but the new origins tracks are just awful and all the audio is muffled.

Honeslty i didnt think the flip phone version of sonic 1 would be on here. I remember buying both parts back in the day lol

Also worth noting The 360 versions of Generations and Unleashed are playable through Xbox One X and Series X in 4K and boosted framerate While the PS3 versions are stuck on PS3 with all there faults

I gotta say, I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that the modern SADX ports don't have widescreen and the ugliest screen borders out there. Like PC is clearly the worst, because at least it runs well on consoles (generally the performance has only gotten better with each release,) but the lack of widescreen was one of the biggest complaints back when it launched lol

The first time I played Sonic 1, was the J2ME version, I got to Spring Yard zone, where I kept getting stuck between the springs and the bumpers, I think I even got softlocked.

This video is an example of why mods are the bread and butter of the Sonic series.

I still have the PS2 Sonic Heroes. I kept falling through the ground and whenever I beat a level Team Sonic just stared at me for a whole 30 seconds before finishing the level

A Sonic fan and a Kay fan. Instant sub

Absolutely fun and interesting video Unrelated, I got Jumpscared by the Femc mod of Reload thinking for a second they actually did it

The S3&K collection on PC is actually better than the genesis version with a few mods. If you restore the old music and use Sega PC reloaded to stabilize the refresh rate, you're left with a version that never dips below 60 fps and doesnt have emulation lag.

9:39 > At least it's portable, right guys? Steam Deck:

I’m pretty sure there’s an 8 bit version of sonic 2 or something like that I remember Nathaniel b talk about

Kept me supper attentive throughout the entire video. Excellent work.

I tried Sonic Mania on my iPad (mini 5) a couple hours ago, funnily enough. I don’t like touch screen controls, but the sound and music stuttering loads was the biggest issue.

I dunno what’s up with your computer, mine can run SADX Steam perfectly fine (unless I have a Wii Remote paired) yet lags when playing games like FF12

I played sonic 1 on an iPod video. And if you rotated around the wheel it made sonic curl into a ball. I’d say it was bad but I honestly got pretty good at it’s touch to move and press to jump controls.It had a continue point after every zone so it wasn’t like if I died I continued from nothing.

Where Sonic Adventure 2 is concerned, I think the PS3 version is the worst one, because it's missing all of Omochao's voice lines where he refers to the action buttons with a letter, since they didn't re-record the lines with the shapes instead for that version. For the Dimps version of Unleashed, the PlayStation 2 version is probably the worst, due to performance issues. It's not much worse than the Wii version though. Edit: Forgot about the PAL Gamecube release, which has a severe bug where jump and action button inputs are sometimes doubled on a frame, causing a character to perform its midair jump ability without leaving the ground. This happens even in PAL60 mode.

I would argue that GameCube is by far the worst way to play sa2 mostly because it has significantly less monitors within the hunting stages and the analog dead zone doesn't align properly with the GameCube notches. It's still a very dramatic step up from the god-awful controls of sa2 on Dreamcast which just feel completely unfinished. If you're seeking out the absolute worst essay to experience possible, it is playing vanilla on Dreamcast. Battles level design changes and general control fixes make the game field so much better and the game overall just feels more complete than vanilla 2

I kinda like the way the special stage song sounds on the smash pack version

The Sonic Mania + on Netflix is actually pretty good, runs like butter on my phone, base game is the same thing like I cannot make this up they're THE same, only real issue I get are the special stages being hell to control on a touchscreen.

Sonic Heroes: PS2 Shadow the Hedgehog: PS2 Sonic Riders: PS2 Sonic Unleashed: PS2 The PS2 is basically the definitive way to play the worst versions of games, Sonic or otherwise.

The actual worst version of Sonic Heroes is the PS3 port of the PS2 version. It was available on the PSN store for a limited time before being pulled.

How have I never heard of the sega smash pack emulations before... The music is so, interesting...

Ah, a fellow Kay Faraday fan talking about bad Sonic ports. Say no more. I subscribe.

The midi music in the sonic 3 and knuckles collection can sound better with a dedicated midi playback device like a sc-55

great video. also great choice of character

the stray pixels on the sonic 1 genesis sprites could be a result of the sprites just being resized and left at that without any further edits

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but the sprites in sonic genesis on gba arent resized at all is the thing. they're exactly to scale with the originals, thats why the screencrunch is so bad.

Your sub count is far too small for your video quality

TL;DR Sonic 1: J2ME Sonic 2: J2ME Sonic CD: Gems Collection (2005) (GameCube, PS2) Sonic 3 and Knuckles: Sonic and Knuckles Collection (PC) (1997) Sonic Adventure: Modern DX (Xbox 360, PS3, PC) (2011) Sonic Adventure 2: Indifferentiable Sonic Heroes: PS2 (2003/4) Shadow the Hedgehog: PS2 (2005) Sonic 06, Unleashed, and Generations: PS3 (2006-2011) Sonic Colors: Ultimate (Switch) (2021) Sonic Lost World: PC (2015) :( Sonic Mania: Netflix (Mobile) (2024) Sonic Forces, Frontiers, and Superstars: Switch (2017-2023) If you like these IRYO (I respect your opinion).

The worst version of heroes is actually playing the game on a backwards compatible Xbox 360. The frame rate is dreadful

Believe it or not, the J2ME version was the first time I've ever played the original Sonic The Hedgehog. I think I played sonic advance on the gba before that though. Distinctly remember sitting in my moms huge bed playing on her phone while an equally large feeling TV was playing Hannah Montana. We were also eating chex mix which was crazy tasty to little old me. Damn dude this was supposed to be a video about shitty sonic ports.