In europe a lot of trains are electric. Just saying.

@KarolaTea

5 жыл бұрын

But electric trains don't need too much of a battery, because they use overhead wires, at least here. So for trains electric is a great option, also means they don't have to stop and refuel. For other vehicles you might be right.

@slboss123

5 жыл бұрын

Political Left From what I know the Problem with fuel cell vehicles is that they are really dangerous. That‘s why they aren‘t used eventhough the science for it‘s use is ready. The main Problem is that you‘d have Tod have hydrogen/ methane tanks on vehicles that are moving in high Speed. But I imagine it could be easily managable on trains.

@MrMakabar

5 жыл бұрын

@@slboss123 Fuel Cell vehicles like buses are in service today. The problem right now is infrastructure, as hydrogen requires different storage solution. A hydrogen station i not economical without a critical mass of vehicles using it, which are not being build as you can not fuel them. With electric vehicles that is less of a problem as you can plug them in the normal electric grid fairly easily.

@unclestarwarssatchmo9848

5 жыл бұрын

In Europe lots of the electricity comes from coal

@MrMakabar

5 жыл бұрын

@@unclestarwarssatchmo9848 Still fossil fuel power plants are more efficient then small combustion engines. Electric cars still have a better CO2 output, if only powered by coal plants then a gas powered vehicle. Considering that 17.5% of electricity is renewable that makes electric trains a really good alternative.

The train is the obvious superior, its basically a supercharged electric bus. But American railway is total garbage.

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah :( If only Amtrak trains were supercharged electric buses, this video would have been five seconds long.

@booketoiles1600

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnperic6860 that's what happens when auto and oil companies intentionally destroy public transport infrastructure to force people into cars

@booketoiles1600

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnperic6860 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

5 жыл бұрын

The US rail network is a freight focused network and it has always been a freight focused network since day one. The reason for this is because freight makes money while passenger rail loses money. In fact that's the reason we have Amtrak, in the 1970s passenger rail was doing so poorly that the rail companies were close to bankruptcy because of it so the feds swooped in and took over passenger rail so that freight companies could focus on restructuring their businesses and repairing their tracks.

@sidneyboo9704

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnperic6860 What? I have a car and I still rather take public transportation even though it sucks because sitting in traffic sucks more. A lot of people think this way or else there wouldnt be Park and Rides. People would use public transportation more if it didnt suck so much. Also Japan is prosperous and their bullet train is highly utilized.

In europe almost every train runs on electric energy

@withblini2968

5 жыл бұрын

Hei Bk-201 Darker than Black is a good Anime :D

@michaelmorris1255

5 жыл бұрын

I wish we had trains in America, mainly for people who want to have greener forms of transport and for people who can’t or don’t want cars.

@christofernilsson9261

5 жыл бұрын

Well they do run most on electric BUT in central europe most of the electricity comes from coal so for example in germany taking a bus creates less emissions than a train per person

@photograffael5214

5 жыл бұрын

@@christofernilsson9261 Consider buying an eco ticket from the DB (German Railways). In my experience they're just a few euros and you invest into more renewable energy. The DB also says that 57% of the energy used to run their trains is renewable. Train travel in Germany isn't cheap but I suppose it's not that bad as stated in the video

@jana31415

4 жыл бұрын

Which train runs on diesel, Ecept for tertiary routs!?!?!?

Is your trains run on green energy (like in a lot of countries in Europe), train is the best option...

@thatyougoon1785

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am amazed that in the USA, diesel is a common propulsion method for trains. Dutch trains basically all run on electricity and they buy an equivalent amount of wind energy, so they have a significantly lower carbon footprint. I suppose the Netherlands is far more densely populated and thus can afford it to electrify everything, but like, damn. Hopefully, hydrogen trains will take over soon. We'll see.

@UnbenutzerKanalname

5 жыл бұрын

@@thatyougoon1785 the distance is much larger in the USA or Canada, so electrifying the tracks is not economically feasible

@thisfr0

5 жыл бұрын

here in switzerland the train would emmit about 4.2kg (4.9g/km) for that same route (875km), even better than electric car source: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=2ahUKEwif_sr57vriAhUJa1AKHY1nDQsQFjABegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sbb.ch%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fsbb%2Fde%2Fpdf%2Fgeschaeftsreisen%2Fdienstleistungen%2FMuster_Emissionsbericht_Webseite_d.pdf.sbbdownload.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1bcxaDqbV8gmXc_RwrXU2s

@ante9452

5 жыл бұрын

@@UnbenutzerKanalname some things are more important than economical economic feasibility.

@UnbenutzerKanalname

5 жыл бұрын

@@ante9452 Of course not, but in that case it's a pretty good proxy of how useful it would be. Imagine the thousands of tons of steel and aluminium for the overhead lines and the power plants required for thousands of miles of track which is seldom used.

My rankings: Donkey Foot travel VR travel

@joshuanorman2

5 жыл бұрын

Donkeys emmit a lot of methane, can you rearrange your rankings please?

@pillarshipempireemployee0142

5 жыл бұрын

​@@user-ez9is7lb9p 1. VR has many more uses than feet. 2. Recycle rare earth metals 3. If plastic is reusable and/or recycled then it is comparatively nothing 4. I think

@bri1085

5 жыл бұрын

Donkeys are ruminants, they're carbon footprint is probably big

@minidreschi2

5 жыл бұрын

Fast Travel (aka Skyrim :D)

@Antifadiva

5 жыл бұрын

What about psychedelic travel?

Happy to live in Germany where nearly all trains are electric. And when you get a “bahncard“ (you pay a fixed price once a year but then all your train rides become cheaper) you travel carbon neutral bc they buy carbon offsets (which I am still sceptical about, but better than nothing)

@miss_xenia_

5 жыл бұрын

Dolores Umbridge i worked for the Deutsche Bahn and roughly ~67% are from renewable energy. When getting the bahncard you’re just automatically paying for an extra offset, which you can also do with each individual ticket when paying for it, so that’s why they can call it 100%. It’s sort of like eco electricity. You obviously get the same energy as everyone else but you’re investing specifically into renewable energy.

@marla0412

5 жыл бұрын

But trains in Germany are so expensive, I can't afford it. I always travel by Flixbus

@DASSANTAMARIA

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to the fear of nuclear power, the use of coal to produce energy has increased significantly in germany in the last decade. So yes you are using electric energy but a considerable amount of that energy is produced by coal mines

@booketoiles1600

5 жыл бұрын

And after all germany's grid is so clean, not a single coal power station to be seen burning tons and tons of coal per day.

@SMH54000

5 жыл бұрын

lmao yeah right Germany's electric power production is so green #GreenCoal

Thank you for great video! I'd like to mention how important the infrastructure is. For example in Europe all railroads are fully electrified, so traveling by train may be the best solution. On the other hand, it depends of country you travel through. In Norway electric car is very efficient, but not in Poland because Poland's electricity comes mostly from coal.

@dianesophie2674

5 жыл бұрын

Franek Wojciechowicz Although Poland has really reliable tram systems and bus services in cities.

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely! I kind of touch on that in the end, but not much. I guess that's what I was trying to get at when I talk about context. It's important to understand what fuel or electricity each form of transportation uses and make an educated decision from there.

@KarolaTea

5 жыл бұрын

* there's still plenty of diesel trains in Europe. Probably more on smaller lines tbf, but particularly in the UK I come across a lot of them still. There's efforts to electrify, but not sure how much of a priority it is, or if 100% electrification is the goal.

@Giruno56

5 жыл бұрын

@@KarolaTea Yes it is just laughable how bad the UK trains are. Only 23% of them are electrified, contra like 40%(here's the wiki: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_electrification_in_Great_Britain) in mainland Europe. It's the effect of the first, as the British started building trains very early on, but never went trough the trouble of electrifying them. In mainland EU, trains were built later and it was easier to electrificy them

@Giruno56

5 жыл бұрын

@@dianesophie2674 which may be great, but still run on coal power

You should add "in the US" at the end of the title 😂

@mohamedaminekoubaa5231

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think americans realize the rest of the world exists unless they are going into war against it.

@189Blake

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedaminekoubaa5231 That's not enough, they don't have any idea where on Earth are the countries they bomb.

@fuchsia02

3 жыл бұрын

@@189Blake you guys can never give us a break 😭

Do one on cruises, many people are not aware of the ecological nightmare they are causing. Some cities ban old diesel trucks, but allow these huge vessels to dock and constantly run.

@Andrew-on3vc

5 жыл бұрын

Though with all the passengers not having to use vehicles to get around it kind of evens out

@imluvinyourmum

4 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-on3vc No fun allowed buddy, eat ur carrots

@sammyruncorn4165

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-on3vc Not I think it pretty much doesn't 🙈. It depends on the cruise line one/ they use as well, but many are so wasteful on a cruise that not only the fuel use matters.

@malcolmking752

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

OK, Mr/Mrs Engineer, exactly how are you going to supply power to thousands of people on a cruise ship without running the built in power plant? You can't. If you build it on shore it will pollute 24/7 x 365 because it will be used when someone having a hormone attack turns the air conditioning down. You have no answer because you have no education. You only know what some twerp told you and you make meritless assumptions. When the ship connects to your local "clean" power the chance of knocking out power for the entire community will be very high, and of course 300 feet of shore the big engines will have to be started anyway, and that is when they pollute the most because they are cold. I suggest your intellect would be more aptly matched to those who worry about how many ice cream flavors there are at Baskin Robins. Leave the problems to intelligent people. If it wasn't for the interference from people like you, they would be solved already. Perhaps removing the vote from people with low IQ would help.

I see an error here. you asume all over the world most trains run with disel, where in europe, most trains are fully electric.

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

Yes very true! This is only for U.S. trains. Electric trains are definitely a much much better choice. It's all about context.

@goosty17

5 жыл бұрын

he literally said the trains in new york. did you watch the video??? he made no assumptions

@evlli2342

5 жыл бұрын

@@goosty17 still, it was a onesided representation. I'm not saying it's not okay to frame like this, but I think It wouldn't have taken a lot of affort to show a more complete picture.

@KarolaTea

5 жыл бұрын

The "Bus - Train - Plane - Car" hierarchy is generally still true though, unless the train's energy is 100% renewable.

@miss_xenia_

5 жыл бұрын

Our Changing Climate maybe change the title accordingly? America is not the world. Yes you said that it was only for that specific route. But either change the title or choose a more representative example or pick more than just one.

Could you do a similar video but for Europe?

@Amozmusicmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Would be useful, our infrastructure is completely different. I'm not even sure if diesel trains still exist in Europe

@KarolaTea

5 жыл бұрын

The "Bus - Train - Plane - Car" hierarchy still applies, unless your trains run on 100% renewable energy or are just as full as buses are. Not that much of a steef difference between the first two to be fair. And yes, diesel trains still exist in Europe (at least the UK and Germany, dunno about other places but would assume so)

@dimond1323

5 жыл бұрын

@@Amozmusicmaker Ukraine has a lot of them

@correctionguy7632

5 жыл бұрын

@@Amozmusicmaker norway for one still uses them

@rerrzeful

5 жыл бұрын

@@KarolaTea This hierarchy no longer applies in europe, in France for exemple, the TGV train is 2.4g CO2/Km per passenger when the bus is 17,8 g CO2/km per passenger

In my central European city, I have walked everywhere for eight months after taking a 16 hour bus trip to Brussels to get some paperwork done. Making US cities more walkable can be part of the solution, and it also provides exercise which helps reduce obesity.

As much as I enjoy your videos, I think for this particular case, you should point out that all of the data you are showing applies to USA only. For any country that produces mostly "green" electricity, for the New York Toroto trip, the train carbon footprint would be about 2 kg, and the electric car carbon footprint would be somewhat negligible. Just to say that things need to be put in perspective. The amount of passenger in a vehicle does not make that much of a difference. The "greeness" of the electricity produced does.

@robertm3951

5 жыл бұрын

USA and Canada

In Denmark, flying 1.109 km is the same as driving 1.723 km in a gas car, or 4.891 km in a train!

@Tore_Lund

4 жыл бұрын

Alfred, you need to show me some numbers. As far as I know, flying is 250g CO2/km/person, train average is 45g CO2/km/person and a car 120g CO2/km for the whole vehicle but as we are talking about vacationing, if there are just 3 people in the car, it comes out as the cleanest form of transport.

@hamanakohamaneko7028

3 жыл бұрын

was denmark that big?

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

According to whose data, and at what price for fuel? What are the related costs not covered by the simplistic analysis?

Thanks for existing 🙌🏼🌴💚

@libbitjones6669

3 жыл бұрын

Omg my worlds are colliding😧💕

@Elizabeth-pc2yx

3 жыл бұрын

👋

it sucks leaving in the midwest where not having a car is almost equivalent to being crippled. i wish we had a better public transportation system.

@theclumsyprepper

5 жыл бұрын

It's the same in rural Ireland. You're stuck without a car.

@priscillajimenez27

4 жыл бұрын

Ironically the same in Orlando, FL. Everything is so far apart and with the heat you can't really walk anywhere anyways

@AlexCab_49

3 жыл бұрын

Here in Los Angeles you're limited without a car but it is slowly changing

@Helaw0lf

3 жыл бұрын

The powers that be that overlook cars are such dicks. Mass transit should be part of an infrastructure bill. Ideally it would be nice to have bicycles, trains, buses and fewer cars on the road.

@lordgutterrat9634

3 жыл бұрын

What we need to do is have more local towns with a stronger community meaning you can walk most places and aren’t inhibited without your car

you didn't take into consideration that train stations are usually in the middle of cities where as airports are usually pretty far away from cities and most people drive to get to the airport... plus you took the worst example ever for a train but people already covered that

Kina sad you didn't mention that the greenest was to stay where you are :) No need to go overseas all the time, in truth you can find happiness and fascinating things to do at your doorstep

@Remption87

3 жыл бұрын

no. "The World is a book and those who do not travel only read one page" - Augustine of Hippo

@muixameta

2 жыл бұрын

@@Remption87 on the flip side I met so many compulsive travellers who learnt literally nothing from travelling. The average tourist is so disconnected from the places they visit, that staying at home would make little difference.

also to consider is the fact, that the plane emits the "CO2" in a sphere, where it has a higher/worse effect on the atmosphere

@user-uy1rg8td1v

2 жыл бұрын

Carbon-neutral synthetic jet fuel is tech/industry we should be investing in. Basically making fuel out of electricity and air or seawater. Large electric passenger planes will probably not be a thing in the next 100 years.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please. Have some more wine.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-uy1rg8td1v Airbus' Zero-E project provides some interesting insights. If we're seeing any electric planes in forseeable future, probably the largest would be an ATR powered by electric propellers with fuel cells on board. Battery lacks the energy density to be viable on weight critical aircraft, while electric equipments can be very heavy. Meanwhile jet engines are actually pretty good in terms of thermal efficiency, that for larger aircraft that flies longer, it might be better just burn SAF or hydrogen.

you missed a few radical options: hitchhiking, biking, and walking. please make another vid about this! you're the dude for such task.

Your videos are so valuable! Thank you for uploading.

Your videos are one of the highlights of my week. Keep them coming! You're really doing such a good thing, thank you for these informative and beautiful mini-docs.

This was an awesome breakdown man! I’d love to see a similar comparison between countries. Keep up the vids my friend 👍🏼

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Give me a break. Actual comparisons are huge efforts. Comparisons intended to deceive people are easy to make, you simply lie if you don't know the answer, which is common place for the left. Look at the Biden administration for some great examples. Peeling the onion is not for the simple mind, but its an important part of long term planning. Remember if it sounds to good to be true (or simple) it probably is.

This is a good effort, but still fails to capture many aspects. What about the embodied energy in roads, train tracks and airport infrastructure, and the vehicles themselves? And the deforestation often necessary to make space for them, leading to burning or decomposition of biomass? Also, if more people use a given mode of transport, more of this infrastructure will be built, so this has to be taken into account. Not only that, but once this extra infrastructure is built, people will travel more often and farther away, resulting of course in further emissions. Looking at the emissions caused directly by the vehicle and then dividing by the number of passengers is better than nothing, but a very simplistic view of a transport system. Yes, a single person won't significantly affect the transport system, but then again, a single person won't significantly affect global carbon concentrations either. Answering this question properly would require a deep understanding of ecology, engineering, technology trends, economy and sociology. All in all, the ultimate green transportation option doesn't exist - even walking or bicycling, as long as our food system relies on fossil fuels for farming and transportation, is not carbon neutral. Neither is any other part of modern society - at the moment, the only option to live without a carbon footprint is to go back in time some 200 years. Not that I'm trying to discourage doing simple calculations as these, as said it's better than nothing, and it might make our (inevitable) path towards a fossil free future look a bit more like change and a bit less like collapse.

@radishpineapple74

2 жыл бұрын

This is not a serious research channel, or a policy channel, or anything like that. It's a video essay channel. Once you understand that, then you will understand it all.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Nice response Balduin. Now you are thinking, but I realize posting here is simplistic, it would take a long term study to understand the implications and impact if you really wanted to do it. What you'd find out is that Nancy Pelosi had access to the route and she and Newsome bought all the land on the route preventing the plan from being implemented - which is exactly whey we don't have high speed rail between SFO and LA, after spending billions already. Then there are the unions - you know the cigar smoking hard heads to stole all the rebar in the nuclear reactor near Sacramento that prevented it certification. They made a few pennies selling that, and everyone knew it was going on, even out fake, bought and paid for media.

@d6wave

2 жыл бұрын

BS.. just don't lump DIFFERENT, very different, transports types with VERY VERY DIFFERENT emissions OR resources/pollutions footprints together as "complicated" for an attempt for futility argument and smearing noise and creating an image of doubt and "feelings" about differences of hummer or monster truck tranports types which is way different than electric buses OR ELECTRIC BIKES/CARS on wind/hydro/solar etc and other NON pollution (or least pollution) energy transformation types BESIDES behaviours and needs aspects. technically electric bikes charged just on hydro/solar/wind charging stations would be OBVIOUSLY INCOMPARABLE THE MOST eco option if the comfort aspect it's not counted as relevant ..BC IT'S ABOUT POLLUTION ASPECT.

i found your channel when you still had only 4000 subscribers and i love it how much your channel has grown! you deserve it and now more and more people can see the videos where you put so much work into!🙃💗

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

God help us, there's more!

One of the biggest dilemmas I've been thinking about recently is the apparent mismatch when it comes to enjoying nature. I love roadtrips and for many national parks and remote places, roadtrips are the only way to get there. Further, many of the best and most beautiful backcountry locations require 4WD vehicles to access. However, most 4WD trucks and SUVs are lucky to get 20 MPG. So in order to get back into the Wilderness, one must use one of the dirtiest forms of transportation. It's hard for many people to appreciate and care about the environment without being able to enjoy it for themselves and my roadtrips in my 4Runner have been extremely fulfilling in bringing me closer to the beauty of nature, but in order to do so, I'm lucky to be getting 16 MPG.

@Andrew-on3vc

5 жыл бұрын

You could learn to climb and hike

@raapyna8544

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can count the footprint and reduce from other places, if trips to national parks are important to you. Perhaps a sort of hybrid would also be an option for you in the future or for someone else who enjoys road trips. I also recommend off-road biking, canoeing, hiking and skiing. And you don't always have to go far away to be in nature, hopefully.

@imluvinyourmum

4 жыл бұрын

Be a total douche in a Tesla cyber truck

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Ben, it's called MERITOCRACY. If you want more stuff or more money work more, harder, or on a task that provides higher pay. It won't take long and you'll be hauling a 32 foot or lager home on wheels to your favorite wilderness and having a ball, regardless of the cost of gas. When the twerps give you the finger because they are jealous let your foot off the gas and leave them in black smoke. There's nothing else you can do.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

Take trains and bus as far as you can and only drive a rental car at last mile, or try to use one of the auto-train / car ferry services I guess?

KZread: New OCC Video Me: Well I guess what I’m doing now isn’t important anymore ....

Dude your Animations are sooo satisfyingly smooth to watch! Great video👏

I was pondering over this issue for a really long time. Thank you for addressing this.

@miss_xenia_

5 жыл бұрын

Sharmistha Bhowmick please do your own research! Unfortunately, this video example is not representative whatsoever. ✌️

As others have said, if the train is electric then it's much better than even an electric car- as the train has no chemical battery which requires emissions to manufacture and is more efficient. Even if the electricity is produced by coal, it's better than a car due to the efficiency of scale of both the power plant and train.

I always thought that buses do not get enough respect. Any city can add buses. Trains tracks and airports are expensive. Buses can be electrified as well

I'm really happy for you that you now can get sponsored by the big guys, you really deserve it. The quality of your videos since 30K has only improved!

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

The big guys have other motives that you happen to align with, but they will toss you like used TP as soon as the alignment changes.

I'd love to know your opinion on if it's ethical to travel at all based on the climate crisis and the lack of electrification of the grid!

@theLambisthelight

2 жыл бұрын

Climate crisis? And 'ethical to travel'? Have you noticed the rich , the elites , world 'leaders' etc are not at all squeamish about flying to their conferences to tell you how you have to be 'green green green' while they most probably are laughing all the way to their banks. Take five round-trip flights from New York to San Francisco , for example, and you've generated the same amount of emissions that the average car spits out all year long , according to The New York Times.

For very small distances like in cities,taking a bicycle would cause less ghg emissions and is also healthy.

Love the vid as always #earlysquad 🖤

Your content is great, bit your graphics are candy to my eyes!

Next video: how much emissions does the internet has in 1 Day/month etc,would be great to know how much do we contribute to ghg just by using our phones

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

YES! I've actually been really curious about this (especially because a lot of my days are spent on the internet).

@prasad2897

5 жыл бұрын

@@OurChangingClimate then you might wanna make a video on it,im eager to know what the carbon emission numbers look like

@Tore_Lund

4 жыл бұрын

@@prasad2897 The only figure I've ever heard was that a single Google search uses as much energy as boiling a full electric kettle. If that is the case, spending the whole day on-line, is magnitudes worse than any other types of leisure activity.

@prasad2897

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tore_Lund hey but as far as i know Google runs on 100% renewable energy so it shouldn't be that bad, and you can always use ecosia like i do to plant trees while surfing

@Tore_Lund

4 жыл бұрын

@@prasad2897 Ecosia, nice!

Our local suburban electric trains from the 1980s use regeneration braking.... The trains motors become generation plants while slowing the train and powering trains on other parts of the track. Those trains came into use in the 1980s.

Great Video Charlie! Keep on:)

Great video as always, though one thing that I think is important to consider is the lack of alternatives for international travel besides aircraft. As mentioned in the video, an aircraft is most efficient when the 'airtime' is extended. To provide an insight into the aviation world, fuel efficiency is paramount as it is the number one cost to an airline. Here are a couple of ways airlines are reducing their footprint: -Airspace utilisation: Old methods of navigating are being eliminated in favour of new GPS based methods that allow aircraft to fly more direct routes from point A to point B, this reduces the air miles being flown significantly. Airspaced is also being utilized through RVSM (Reduced Vertical Seperation Minima) which allows aircraft to cruise at a more efficient altitude). -Passenger miles: The more passengers an airline can fit into an aircraft, the less fuel per person is used, and ultimately this reduces costs for the airlines, but also improves efficiency. This is a major reason why flying can be more efficient than driving. -Biofuels: Some airlines are very hush about this but at the moment there is significant testing during delivery flights where biofuels are being used. -Strict carry-on weight: It might seem like an airline scam to take more money (and maybe it is), but every additional kilogram of weight carried has a significant effect on the fuel burn of an aircraft, especially if multiplied by 180-300 passengers. The result can be 100s of kg of fuel being burnt over the course of a few hours. -ATC forecasting: In Europe especially, ATC can prevent an aircraft from starting the flight by delaying it on the ground rather than in the air which can assist in reducing fuel consumption. Overall though as you highlighted in the video, CONTEXT is so important, and in some cases, flying is definitely not the best option, but I'd suggest that for the majority of the time covering large distances, it is certainly a strong contender for most efficient, especially where infrastructure is lacking.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but all of it appears to compromise safety, and we have the same systems here, in fact we put them in place so long ago that Alan Marshall (MIT) and Howard Salwen (Phd. MIT) who designed these systems have both died of old age. Your figures are unloaded costs and completely insignificant.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

But that simply means double the mileage doesn't double the carbon emission. A longhaul flight is still very polluting given the distance travelled, and more so when it's not direct. That's the whole idea of Flygskam movement in Europe. You don't really need to fly to Caribbeans once a year for beaches when Southern France is just a few hours by train.

I’ve lived in the UK, Switzerland and now in Italy, and honestly I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT DIESEL-POWERED TRAINS EXISTED!! I thought ALL trains everywhere were electric like here

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Ever seen a western - even an Italian western? They used to run on coal and even wood at one time.

one thing to say is that the train is running anyway so you are not adding emissions by taking it and trains are also very important for people who cannot use other modes of transport so it is important to run them

this has always been an important concern of mine! i really need to start taking the bus- procrastination and preparation are the biggest factors into adopting this change!! thank you

thanks for all your hard work making these videos

Also you have to remember that long distance Amtrak trains only run once per day, and don't have permission to increase or decrease frequency. Then remember that the biggest Carbon emitter is running a train in the first place, additional passengers cost almost nothing. This then means that why Amtrak looks so bad in this comparison is because they're mostly empty but they'll run regardless of sold tickets.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Amtrak trains are ridiculously inefficient just to say. They are at least 50% heavier than European counterparts, even for the best ones like Acela Express. Many lack energy saving technologies like inverter traction, regenerative braking etc.

Before watching the video my guess is, for short routes ->bike, and longer ones eletrict trains (hopefully powered by either PV, Wind, Water or Nuclear)

@raapyna8544

4 жыл бұрын

Bio gass busses are good too, for average length distances.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mad Gaming, what is the power supply capacity of your gaming computer? Ever try generating that by hand? I thought so..

You can celebrate vacation in many different ways. Not only by just travelling to 1 place to stay there. You can make the travelling your vacation. Than i mean not by car, but by bicycle! You meat so many people and so many beatifull places.

This is really the type of videos I want. I think I am not alone!

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy them, just don't believe them.

these videos are so amazing to watch.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Appropriate for basket weavers.

A thing I thought about buses, is that they are far more flexible than any other public transport mode, which means distance can be reduced and optimised for each trip depending on the stops along the route

If you want to switch continent, is a boat a better option than a plane?

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

Good question, I honestly don't know. I do know, however, that taking a cruise ship is probably the work option.

@grantp287

5 жыл бұрын

Ships are very polluting because their engines usually use heavy fuel oil which is basically what’s left over after taking everything else out of crude oil and ships are very heavy too, so they take a lot of power to move. A plane would probably be better in most cases.

@marilouneko2340

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your answers! I'm thinking about boat hitchhiking.

As I mentioned in the video, travel (over long distances) has so many variables that it can be hard to pin down the ultimate green transportation lineup. Probably the best thing to do is to not travel at all :) but some people have to or want to travel, so does anyone have any suggestions on how to best approach traveling? How do you normally like to travel these days? Here are some cheat sheets that I found useful: 1. Union of Concerned Scientists (keep in mind this is from 2009): www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/clean_vehicles/greentravel_slick_opt_web.pdf 2. National Geographic: www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/features/carbon-footprint-transportation-efficiency-graphic/

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Walk, and keep out of the way of people who are productive so you don't slow down the real work.

@jenevievecrouch1145

Жыл бұрын

Electric trains.Europe and Asia are good proof that there is a way even if there are still usage of cars.You should do more research on other countries besides the US you know.

In Japan almost all trains are electric. Yes, we primarily use fossil fuels to generate electricity, (Nuclear phasing out because Fuckushima). Still more efficient because of the hellishly crowded trains.

Video making skills are outstanding 👍

i don't see a calculation of the effects of road building vs train tracks--surely rail lines are more environmentally friendly thAn asphalt and wouldn't that give train travel an advantage over cars?

@OurChangingClimate

5 жыл бұрын

Good point. I think that the path forward ideally would be focused on track building, electrified trains, and a renewable energy grid. But because a lot of roads already exist, I think it's a little more complicated than adding road building and track building into the equation.

@vikchandla

5 жыл бұрын

@@OurChangingClimate I dunno dude they're building a high speed rail in the UK (HS2) that will destroy 66 ancient woodlands in the process 😭😭😭 It's so fucked up and by the time it's finished the normal trains tech will be almost as fast, saving only 5 minutes from Birmingham to London.

I really, really wish our train system in the US was up-to-date and affordable.

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Well, what's "affordable"? $50 cents for a ride from SFO to NYC? Or $250? Or $1100? How can you create it unless it has a lot of riders to cover the cost. Does anyone else want to go to Winslow Arizona 3 times per week from NYC? About 50 years ago NYC opened a bus line to central Vermont. It was worshiped by liberals as a way to get black inner city kids to experience the wilderness in Vermont. The first trip was fanfare but in 30 days the crooks in NYC started making the trip to VT and stealing everything they could - because VTers usually keep their doors and cars unlocked. Shortly after that the buses started carrying caskets. The VT boys had enough and started killing them during home invasions. The service was stopped, even though the people in NYC thought it was a great thing.

Thank you for this and the link to natgeo. I am planning to travel between TO and NY. Bus seems like the obvious solution now!

I live in a neighborhood where many people use cars for transportations because we don't have a train station and we have like two bus stops that are actually for the buses in the next town over. However, many people, including my family, have started traveling by foot or bike. Our town is encouraging it by creating routes for motorless vehicles and walking!

@m9078jk3

Жыл бұрын

Personally the past 11 years I got rid of my personal car and have been riding electric bikes instead. I don't need hypermobility because my small property and small private residence is in a fairly good sized city. My area is a pretty hilly one otherwise a regular bicycle would be adequate. But I became a cardiac patient 9 years so ebikes were better for me. I don't waste my yard on a useless lawn but instead I grow a good amount of my food on my property and also in greenhouses in my very well protected multi fenced secured property with video surveillance and intrusion detection sensors. My nearest grocery store is 5.15 Km (3.2 miles) away. from my house. Large items like construction materials ,appliances,furniture etc I can have delivered or taken away directly. Most of the residents in my city are sadly hopelessly addicted (like heavy long term methamphetamine or fentanyl addicts ) to using wasteful,threatening and destructive motor vehicles.

This info was kind of surprising, but really interesting. :-D

Bike travel is the greenest way to travel. Your body provides the fuel

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

It works well if you are between 14 and 44, after than I'll take the Rolls.

airports are everywhere but i don’t ever see a passenger train anywhere in my area. or even in my state.

You should probably also take the emissions from the infrastructure to run the transport into account. An airport is a huge piece of infrastructure that requires air conditioning, electricity for lighting, and all the others things like air traffic control, restaurants, etc. In the US, at least, train stations are much more bare and often times are outside, so the air conditioning and other energy needs are greatly reduced. Bus stations probably require the least because they can just pick people up in an existing parking lot.

Bus is not a better than a train because you are more likely to get into traffic jam on bus, have more accidents, yet train usually has more comfort and faster (at least in UK)

Electrified interstate and international rail corridors built as straight as possible while prioritizing major hub cities where intercity, commuter and metro lines can take over. You need to scale your infrastructure to it's task. Like how a plane isn't efficient if it makes lots of little hops, a large high speed train isn't efficient if it is stopping constantly, especially if it is going out of it's way a lot to do it. A large interstate train that stops at one or two major cities per state would be very efficient once developed as they could be very fast, and provide direct access to anywhere you want to go with connections- which would attract riders, if you can run long trains and keep them full and keep them moving, you get what trains excel at- high momentum, low air resistance and low rolling resistance- you are mostly coasting, just maintaining a steady speed- if you build railways to maximize efficiency based on the distances, the train always wins- subways optimize for smaller more frequaent trains that are efficient for stopping and starting.

You forgot the overseas passengers and rich passengers, how they get involve with green travel while they only have short matter of times for travel. Not to mention, planes it’s the one-n-only way to fly over from country A to country B. Its matter for the world travelers /passengers travel behaviour and not just for the US.

In the calculations I've seen regarding cars vs. planes the car wins by far, but European cars also travel 2-3 times farther per litre of petrol than an average American car. And yes, in many European countries trains are electric, so that will probably be the best option for travelling, except the price is about three times higher than a plane ticket, unfortunately.

My answer would be hitch-hiking!

@9009vishnu

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely haha

Google Maps used to calculate your carbon footprint for journeys. He stopped a few years ago for some reason. You were able to put in your car engine size & fuel cost and it would show you the difference.

aside from the production CO2 of bicycles, they are emission free as far as i am aware - grab a bicycle for shorter journeys; or even better - walk.

The airline industry says that flying is the same as driving in a compact car. Not subcompact and only one passenger. So if you get another passenger that reduces the carbon impact by 1/2 ish.

not sure about the mpg you used in this video as im pretty sure that in the uk and most eu countries mpg is a lot higher than that? most of the people i know here in the uk go for cars with 40-60mpg

Years ago I did the same type of calculations as were done here. My results were: on a per seat basis planes and cars are very similar, but cars are not built strong enough for the wear and tear for a full load of passensers, busses rarely if ever are full of passengers, trains would be the hands down winner over all other methods IF supplementary electric power was used to accelerate trains out of stations ... up to 70% of the fuel required is used just to get them up to speed from a dead stop in a station. The rest of the time you are basically coasting.

@hamesjeff

3 жыл бұрын

Joel Almon yes your right trains are the most eco friendly

@joelalmon3088

3 жыл бұрын

@@hamesjeff Ford needs to create diesel/ELECTRIC hybrids esp for GO trains. Much cheaper than his full electric plan. A second "engine" with a pentagram to overhead wires just to boost power accelerating out of a station is a good CHEAP intermediate step.

Love the videos, would be great to see some videos not just from a US view!

What about effort and cards used to build road and railway. Plus maintenance lighting etc. Airports are considerably smaller. Or are they?

You guys didn't say that trains in Europe all run on electricity. You didn't talk about carpooling and long distance carpooling, which both have popular apps and are very used in Canada. You also only talked about travels between two cities. You said that travellers take taxi at the airport, which ain't entirely true, most people that arrive at airports either take the metro or a light rail train, both electric, a bus or a relative come fetch them. You also didn't talk about the energy from which the electricity is made from, and depending on the area it can be all fossil fuel, a mix of everything or all renewable.

Hey ☺️ I’m studying Environmental Sustainability and I consider this channel the best on KZread as educational about sustainability and spreading awareness about important topics. Just wanted to let you know and share some love! ✌🏼💚

If you want to make trains more environmentally friendly, you have to do 3 things: Electrify the network, improve your renewable energy percentage of your network, and make the train faster. Why make trains faster? Because a *fast* train can beat a plane in both total time from point A to point B and in convenience. The fastest way to get from A to B is going to be the most popular, all other things being equal - so faster trains equals fuller trains, which equals lower environmental impact per passenger per mile. TGV and Bullet trains can get across France/Japan faster than a plane can because you don't have hours wasted at an airport. That makes both of those trains very popular. For example, a train from Paris to Strasburg is about 1hour 40 minutes on the TGV. Google says it's a 4 hour flight. TGV is about 100-125 euro, google says a flight will cost you more than twice that. Don't shoot me if Google is a bit off. But you get the point, right? Trains can and do beat planes if you spend a bit on the network. And a full train running on electricity uses significantly less energy per passenger than any other form of travel. The cherry on the top of the choo-choo shaped cake is this: that TGV is running on power produced mainly by France's extensive nuclear power plant network. So pretty much has zero carbon footprint. Yes, the train is subsidised, but perhaps that is a small price to pay for less environmentally damaging travel. I want intercontinental TGV/Bullet trains all across every continent, because it may very well save lives.

Lovely feed 💕

wow, just wow

Only take cars and planes if it’s really necessary. For example, if you’re planning on going to a different country for an interview, do the interview online. If you’re going to a shop that’s not too far away, walk or cycle to it.

A pity you didn't talked about what seems to me really important for travelling mode camparison. It's that with a flight, you can be so easely far away, zo that in the end people go way farther away than they should do if they had to go with another transportation mode. If you go 10x closer, what ever the mode, you'll consume way less.

There are a lot of points missing here, which is kind of disappointing for a channel with such a great initiative. First, I'm surprised with these results and I wonder why the train is doing so bad here, is it the fuel used, the load factor or the bad condition of the tracks? A typical European train is at least twice as efficient as an electric car and often much more. (Hint: if the train is electric, it is most likely the best choice). Second, the reason for the high efficiency of the bus is mostly the load factor. Long-distance bus operators usually optimise their departures for a high load factor. For trains the load factor is mostly dependent on the popularity. Third, planes do not always get more efficient when they fly further. Ultra long haul flights (somewhere above 10 000 km to 12 000 km) are less efficient do to extra fuel burning from hauling more fuel. Flying from London to Perth with a transfer halfway consumes less fuel than a direct flight. Fourth, induced demand. The net effect of your travel (vs the your proportional share of the displacement). A car will not drive without you, but a train will. For busses and planes the flights are very closely tied to the demand (except for services that are required by governments), so one extra ticket will on average be around 0,9 extra seat available, but for trains this is much less the case. Once a train has a decent frequency, it will typically only be raised when the load factor reaches around 75% (where 30% is typical), so one extra ticket will average less than 0,5 extra seat available and the additional energy consumption of a train with one passenger extra is almost negligible.

I think grasping that North America is a large continent helps. Your perception of "a relatively short distance" - 350 miles would be considered a long trip in the UK. Travel seems to be a prime example of the rebound effect - cars become more efficient, mileage driven annually has increased to drown out those efficiency savings. It's a real Pandora's box, now people have this perceptive that travel is quick and relatively affordable, very few are open to the suggestion that just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

There is exactly 100,000 views on this video as I'm watching it. This makes me happy

Transportation is 23% of emissions but I'm curious what the difference is between transportation of freight vs transportation of passengers. How much of a difference does a person make with their decision to choose the greener option of passenger travel when they still buy things with parts from place 1, assembled in place 2, and sold in place 3?

Where are you getting this train info? Trains can move much more mass and further per litre of fuel then any other mode of transport. The losses from rail to train wheel are far lower than that of tires to road. I’m genuinely curious as the resource I’ve used (including pier reviewed articles) disagreeing strongly with your findings

@robertm3951

5 жыл бұрын

Fuel on planes is so expensive that planes are pretty much full when they take off. Sometimes they even sell more tickets than seats. Trains can be pretty empty for a good portion of their trip. The worse part is that this happens most when the trains run on diesel

As for such complex topic I wish video would be longer. I think its important to compare trains in Europe, which usually run with electricity and ways can be even shorter than car ones.

Is there anyway you could do a video about the environmental impact of producing these differents forms of transporation?

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

No. AYK. It would take an army of intelligent engineers to do this, and a website request is hardly going to trigger the investment. We have years of political problems and probably WW III and IV to get to the point where the question will make sense, if then, because Armageddon is going to change so many things, we should simply wait until it's over.

What's the greenest way to travel? Answer: walk... \:v/

I love this channel, the only problem is that the calculations are always done in relation to the USA, which is the country that uses less electric trains as in Europe

I was going to comment about trains in Europe being almost each one electric, but I see it’s already been done 😯

What program do you use to compose your videos?

In the Netherlands our national train system NS.nl uses 100% clean energy. We have wind farms that power our grid.

So, everything you talked about in the video is correct. But I think you missed a big factor of the environmental impact of different travel modes. You need to consider the amount of time it takes to use the different modes of travel, how long time you can work while on the mode of transport, and how much productive time is spent moving instead of working. If you chose to drive your electric car between New York and Toronto you are not able to work while traveling, and you waste up to two full working days driving which considering that the average white collar worker in New York makes 53 000 $ per year is a productivity cost of over 400 $. If the person chose to take the flight it would be possible to make this 3 day trip a one day trip. The environmental impact of the flight would be higher. But the productivity increase of 400 $ would make it possible to remove around 2 tons of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere if the costs of this are average. So if you are able to spent the time you gain on flying on working and use that money to make the environment better flying is the greenest mode of transport.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

In Europe or Japan trains are often the more productive ways of travelling as well, with power plugs, Wi-Fi or good cellular coverage. Otherwise you can always take the overnight options.

Could you do an update on this video for Europe considering that they actually have a good and well connected trainsystem that runs on electricity where you might not need to take such detours as between New York and Toronto? Would be interesting to see the difference

@lenumina6185

2 жыл бұрын

Be sure to include the cost of the interest and bonds to build it, including those forgiven by the United States, and the cost to clean the land by bombing during WWII, and estimate how much money we save them in red tape in the process.

Trains & Busses are better for all as they usually have stops on a journey between A & B, so train going between two cities isn’t just transporting people between the cities but people between all the stations in between while a plane will only take those going from A to B.

The greenest way to travel is by nether portal! :D

What are your thoughts on bullet trains? I heard Japan has them. I Googled it for the US and found like six main ones, all in the northeast area despite all the open land going west. Also they run on diesel. It'd be nice to have green energy bullet trains at least to major cities in the US.

I'm guessing presuming that electric car is fueled with renewable energy? Cause afaik using coal electricity is even worse than regular petrol? Or is that based on the current source of electric power in the US? I didn't know a lot of trains in the US still run on diesel, interesting. Are there any plans/efforts for electrification? In Germany a lot of train companies use renewable energy (electric) for some or all of their lines. And often very packed, so that's nice for efficiency lol. I'd also like to add that ships can hold a lot of goods, afaik more than even the longest trains. I'm not 100% sure how that'd compare with people, as ships take a lot longer than planes so instead of just a tiny seat you'd probably actually have a cabin (even if small). But I could imagine it's still more. Great video, I do travel a fair bit, so this is interesting information!

@SeanLinsley

5 жыл бұрын

internal combustion engines are very inefficient b/c of heat loss, and in addition, transporting + refining oil into gas uses up a ton of energy. by comparison, industrial generators are very efficient and coal & natural gas don't require a ton of processing to be usable www.quora.com/What-is-more-efficient-a-power-plant-providing-electricity-for-electric-cars-or-gasoline-powered-cars

What about boats and ships?