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@fearrogue

4 ай бұрын

MW3 2025?

@YARROWS9

4 ай бұрын

Brilliant podcasts Shawn. You listen, and let the guests tell their stories.

@bradchoi662

4 ай бұрын

Active duty airman now, living in the UK and Scotland, met several former SAS operators in person, awesome people, wish I could train under their command in the future. mass respect for these professional soldiers

I remember my mum sending me round to an old ex-SAS and ex-Para guy down the road to give me some advice about training etc. He was quietly spoken but such a nice bloke. Was telling me all sorts of interesting stuff about map reading, geography, how to stay mentally strong etc. People sometimes forget that these guys are just normal blokes in many ways. They have families, often get regular jobs post-service, get ill, have other hobbies etc. But they're all tough as nails ofc.

@jayden_2954

4 ай бұрын

What did he tell you about staying mentally tough?

@goodyeoman4534

4 ай бұрын

@@jayden_2954 He said when you're cold, wet, hungry or tired, think one more mile, one more day etc. And to always keep in mind that you're going for something most people would never apply for, so you're already ahead. Just keep going, never give up.

@Alex-mj5dv

3 ай бұрын

@@goodyeoman4534can’t really get better advice for tackling any type of adversity than that. Solid. The U.K. SF selection and training really does sort the wheat from the chaff.

@rrwholloway

2 ай бұрын

@@goodyeoman4534good advice for life. When you’re not cold wet and hungry (which is most of the time for most of the pampered west) you’re already ahead…

@dendemano

2 ай бұрын

I took comfort from seeing how other people were responding to any hardship. I know that it seems like take a negative way to profit from witnessing the discomfort and suffering of others, but it is a known fact that people do take strength from their counterparts (during a test phase or training environment) who are displaying signs of weakness, anger, or irrational behaviour, and that the exact same circumstances are not having any such effect on yourself. It is a very good indicator of how well, and how much you are capable of enduring. That’s not to say that you wouldn’t do anything you could in order to help others get through a difficult episode, as it is quite possible that it is just a blip, and they’ll be back on track. I have always been able to crack on with the task at hand with a smile on my face. I could be woken up after a short sleep and open my eyes and get straight up, however tired I was feeling before I went to sleep. I’ve had individuals who turned violent during exercises in basic training. Sleep deprivation is one of the most severe factors that affects an individuals mental and physical well being. This can vary widely depending on your overall condition, and obviously the length of time you have been deprived of quality sleep. I have experienced hallucinations on a few occasions, and one time in particular was a full blown episode. A passenger jet flew over my head and was close enough for me to see details of the undercarriage. A row of cyalumes (glow sticks) were placed in front of my defensive position, which had taken us days to get dug in and without any sleep. I believe that this represented a runway effect in my mind and the imagery kicked in without any warning signs. The experience was unbelievable, but also fascinating, as well as slightly unnerving, due to the fact it was the first time I had ever seen anything like it. The other incidents were far less dramatic and involved me talking nonsense for a short while.

The comments on here on brilliant, considering 99% probably havent got a clue. You wouldnt fu*k with the SAS or SBS, leave it at that

During the Falklands war there was a big Argentinan camp when suddenly an SAS soldier appeared on a hill shouting insults, the Argentinan General sent five men to kill him but they all rolled back down the hill dead. Again the SAS man appeared shouting insults this time the General sent ten men and again they all rolled back down the hill dead, when SAS man appeared again the General screamed that one hundred of his best men should go kill him but a minute later they all rolled back down the hill but this time one man was still clinging to life he looked up at the general and said "it's a trap there's two of them!"

@badger557

2 ай бұрын

They tell this same joke in Finland - the two are Finns and the other soldiers are Russians.

@MbisonBalrog

2 ай бұрын

I think every Army tells same joke.

@dogwithwigwamz.7320

2 ай бұрын

That makes my belly ache in laughter.

@alanserjeant4947

28 күн бұрын

An oldie but goldie 🙂

@freespeech4023

3 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Shawn, I’m proud of you. It doesn’t surprise me that your podcast has grown Into the millions. We learn so much from you. As you know I’ve watched your podcasts for years. Your probably the most honest man I know. It’s nice getting the straight truth. Your honorable and humble. I respect that greatly. Your guest Christian - WOW Talk about a mammoth skill set. I watched your other podcast with Christian… This man is also a humanitarian This world is a better place because of men like you !!!

Yep, I still have the Time magazine with Darth Vader on the cover that reports on the SAS Iranian hostage raid. My father thought I saved it due to Vader, nope it was due to the SAS - 1st time I ever heard of them.

@chipdiesel9788

4 ай бұрын

I have a news paper with this guys famous pic storming into the hotel

@tigerdragonmartialarts2172

4 ай бұрын

For some reason i thought you were inferring that the Iranians thought the SAS were a bunch of Darth Vaders attacking and somehow that made just as much sense to me

@Si_Mondo

2 ай бұрын

​@@tigerdragonmartialarts2172😂😂😂

@dbz9393

Ай бұрын

Fun fact: The UK gov had air traffic have their planes fly lower to the ground on that day to cover the sounds of the SAS entry and assault on the building

~1999, they opened up the Swimmer canoeists to all arms for the first time. Previous to that they had only taken Bootnecks. I switched over to SIGINT specialist RN (CT) instead because I didn't have faith in myself and that regret has remained with me for life. Any young servicemen reading this, if you want to, please at least try.

@rob8493

2 ай бұрын

Likewise my friend. I was a boot neck at the time of the switch and had a friend in 98/99 had recently been badged trying to get me to apply for selection. The amalgamation in 2000 to joint SF put me off and I ended up leaving the corps in 2001. I regret this decision also but on one hand at least we are both still alive 👍👍

Soap, it's your turn for the CQB test. Everyone else head to observation. For this test you'll have to run the cargo ship solo in less than 60 seconds. Gaz holds the current squadron record at 19 seconds.

@Si-Toecutter

4 ай бұрын

you just won KZread comment of the year in my eyes

@turbsifc1974

4 ай бұрын

💪

@rdf4315

4 ай бұрын

Just remember switching to your pistol is faster than reloading, and what the hell kind of name is soap.

@aikighost

3 ай бұрын

"Your fruit killing skills are remarkable" 🤣🤣🤣

geniune human there. Stand up guy. Humble Go watch the episode its yet another great one from Shawn Ryan another humble warrior may both these guys live an easy life after living a hard one serving their respective countries

The SAS aren't like Delta, Delta is based on the SAS and the SAS advised on the training of Delta. The SAS were running around in Europe during WWII and before that the LRDG were running around in North Africa before the Americans even turned up for the fight,

@ramozj6997

10 күн бұрын

LRDG were before the SAS.1940 . SAS was formed in 41, SAS then copied LRDG jeep usage after failed paradrops in Nth Africa

@BlueMoonday19

Сағат бұрын

Yeah, what would an ex SAS know, right? 😂

For those that have completed SCBC at Brecon, back in the day there was a training seminar held by the SAS guys. Where in they would talk about who they were looking for and what was expected. Since you are considered in the top 3% of the Army by making it to SCBC.

@JB-qr2jq

4 ай бұрын

Don’t do it anymore but my instructor on junior Brecon was 22. As was the chief instructor on LRCC.

@OngoGablogian185

3 ай бұрын

Haha, maybe by finishing the briefing course and passing it. Certainly not by just attending it.

@OMT988

3 ай бұрын

Top 3% of the Army is a stretch. Top 3% of their parent unit perhaps....I had some right shit on my SCBC....guys that got D grades and were proud they passed first time, because it was very rare for their regiment. (no joke...for those that dont know a B grade is average, now know as competent)

First off, unless things have drastically changed in the past few decades, each SAS Sqn has a boat troop that does diving and small boat work etc. Many people get confused when confronted with this fact and assume one is talking about the SBS. Next, for the yanks (and Canadians), the film Christian is referring to (Who Dares Wins) was released in North America under the title. The Final Option. Fun flick starring the great Lewis Collins, Richard Widmark, Judy Davis and even the great Edward Woodward. I'm older than Christian so I totally remember the Princes Gate rescue in 1980. I was 15 and was enthralled... just like I was 4 years earlier upon learning the details of the Israelis kicking ass at Entebbe. These ops always make me feel warm and happy. The pros - getting it done!

@lib556

4 ай бұрын

@@OMT988 Okay. I'll take your word for it. When I met guys from one of the boat troops, there were definitely diving every day. They also did a para jump into the ocean from an RAF Herc. This was back in 84. Now, to me, that's like yesterday. However, I have to accept the fact that it was 40 yrs ago. I am getting old...

@Art-is-craft

4 ай бұрын

US army Soecial Forces also have teams that are dive based as do US Rangers. There are also members of Royal Marine Commandos that have dive tracing but no operational teams at present.

@brownholecharles

3 ай бұрын

yep, there's a reason why the SAS and SBS are sent in when failure isnt an option

SAS and SBS - what's the difference? "They're supposed to be the same" (smirk). The banter between the two must be hilarious! The rest of us would never dream of joining in.

When I was a Canadian peacekeeper in Cyprus (infantry) sometimes in our platoon weapons locker at Ledra Palace, Woolsley Barracks in Nicosia, there would be a little pile of 9mm Browning Hi Powers & Uzis. I was told these are not to be touched and owned by a four man SAS detachment doing whatever they did in Cyprus 1988. And stored there during thier 72 hours off duty break. I find it kind of odd and funny they didn't temporarily store thier weapons with the British contingent. True story.

@terryleddra1973

4 ай бұрын

I have met many x servicemen who knew of Ledra palace. They always asked me if my family came from Cyprus. Because of my surname, many Leddra's down in Cornwall.

@lib556

4 ай бұрын

1988? I was there. Fond memories.

@YARROWS9

4 ай бұрын

The SAS can choose whatever weapons they feel best for operations. They very rarely go with British made weapons.

@mrfrisky6501

4 ай бұрын

​@YARROWS9 and if they get caught or lose the kit they don't have or leave British marked kit

@michaelmurphy8667

3 ай бұрын

Close protection only. More than likely you were storage for operators to protect the United nations ambassador. The whole cypress thing is a joke. And I served there.

When SBS was a brigade asset and pretty much consisted of ranks from the Royal Marines. Probably 99.9%. The selection process to make it as a badged SC was harder than the respective selection for 22. It was a course that was ran by Marines for Marines. Some courses had six candidates and the same amount of instructors. There was no chance of anyone slipping through the net, as is definitely the case in lieu of the amalgamation that was SF 2000. Prior to that point the lads from Hereford (Boat Troop) were not exactly ecstatic about being sent to Poole for cross training. The same thing was true with their (Mountain Troop), who had tuition from ML’s in the Cadre. They are not on most people’s radar, but they are probably the best bread and butter, conventional soldiers in the United Kingdom, if not the world. They were instrumental in the Falklands War. Their constant patrolling and continuous harassment of the enemy was responsible for breaking their resolve. The assaults on certain targets were essential in gaining the high ground and providing the head shed with much needed intelligence.

@rob8493

2 ай бұрын

@dendemano. Finally someone who knows what he is talking about. I remember the change to the joint SF in 2000 very well. I was a Royal marine at the time and had a friend who was recently badged and was trying to convince me to go for selection. I decided against it and one of the reasons was because of the amalgamation with the sas. I have always been bias towards the marines having been one but I do genuinely believe that the SBS is the best SF unit in the world. There training is now joint but the SBS do further training to work in the water. They don’t need to ram it down peoples throats and they are just a humble unit who in my opinion are the best in the world

@dendemano

Ай бұрын

@@rob8493 Roger that.

My impression from the TV shows is that they are looking for people who are highly capable, quick learners, humble mavericks and who can work well in a team, which is obviously an unusual combination of skills.

@BornePlayss

4 ай бұрын

Tv show has nothing to do with special forces lol

@StimParavane

4 ай бұрын

@@BornePlayss So what did I say that was incorrect? What qualities do you think they are looking for?

@lagarto83

4 ай бұрын

@@StimParavane Think outside the box, be able to improvise, adapt and make life or death decisions without going up the chain of command and doing it on the spot, the ability to remain calm and collected under severe and extreme amounts of pressure and uncertainty. The things you described would apply to the regular military in a more general way. A lot of it is psychological . Most people that apply to these tier 1 units are already super fit etc coming from the pathfinders or paras or commandos, rangers etc... A huge part of tier one training is not so much physical as it is psychological .

@thebiglewt6895

4 ай бұрын

Legit. Mental. Preparing for any situation, any amount of toruture someone can expect. Giving their lives for their 'country' and having no qualms about it. ​@@lagarto83

@StimParavane

4 ай бұрын

@@lagarto83 Yes I covered this by using the term "humble maverick". But clearly, that wasn't explicit enough for you.

In 2000 I believe that RM were out numbering guys from the army in the SAS. SBS selection was around 9 months back in the 80’s. Around 2 months of that was dive training. Smaller courses than the SAS selection in terms of numbers, but candidates were exclusively from the RM so the basic standard was higher on average. Failure rate was still 50-80%. The unit was pretty small back then. Less than 100 personnel including training and admin roles. Big changes these days.

@kjvenom8508

28 күн бұрын

60 percent of the regiment are from the PARAS.1 PARA are SFSG anyway the other 40 percent are crap hats coming from various other regiments anyway .Selection has a 90 percent fail rate . There are a few that failed first time around and went back Mainly due to injuries it happens as you no Selection goes on for a good few months from tabbing up beacons to to LLRP in the Big green then back again for CS with the SFSG from 1 PARA playing enemy for the E&E Then the TQ .hopefully you will see the White Arm band . Then life begins as a trooper in either A,B,D,G squadron in the regiment .who rotate on a Six monthly bases .Air ,Boat mobility and Mountain troop. in selection Process the SBS go on to complete SC phase then you have the SRR lads that complete the Aptitude Phase go on to there own SCSR training . Up until the Late 90s selection was separate wasn’t it .There is a lot of cross over with the SBS it’s the MCT isn’t it and the regiment with the CT the red and blue.All the UKSF are highly motivated highly trained effective. Me personally got a lot of respect for the SBS lads The regiment and SRR both at Credenhill.i think the SRR are overlooked because of the Cucci label the regiment and the SBS have

Super Army Soldiers v. Super Boat Soldiers, my mates Dad told me. He was on the balcony in 1980 👍🏻

The SBS has always been the pinnacle of special forces and the SAS don’t like this fact so feel it necessary to slag them off in a subtle way. The bottom line is before the selection process merged the SBS was a longer and harder course. It’s now exactly the same but the SBS do further continuation training to work in the water. TheSBS still recruit 90% from the Royal Marines. The humbleness and intelligence shines through the Navy - enough said

SBS…because even the SAS need hero’s to look up to 😂

@charliebacca8170

3 ай бұрын

REAL @BullRoarer 😂

@cordellej

2 ай бұрын

thats why the SRR go in before the SAS or SBS and then tell them how to go do the task

@cordellej

2 ай бұрын

@@MarkBerenger i guess comprehension class was a fail for you

@Jamtastical

2 ай бұрын

This. 💯 and he knows it. SB superior.

@colin...101

Ай бұрын

Who?

Between the ages of 13 to 16 my mother played tennis with a woman married to an original member of the SAS .He was very humble and softly spoken not to mention interesting.

I discovered that the SAS unit was based across the street from my house just after the iranian embassy hostage situation. i had lived there for years as had my parents and did not know who they where. i often saw them train in our local hills and thought they were part time soldiers.

22 SAS and SBS are the British version of US Delta Force and DevGru. The Uk Special Reconnaissance Regiment and 18th Signals Regiment is the British version the American JREG and COMTECH. The Uk SFSG although structured much differently is the same template and charter that the 75th Rangers have with JSOC. The Path Finders and Royal Marine Recce Troop are much like Force Recon marines in that they are not technically Special Operations and specialize in AFO for conventional battle space commanders. Then you have the new UK Army Special Operations Brigade which was meant to emulate the US Green Beret ODAs in their focus on Foreign internal Defense and “Triple A” - Advise, Assist & Accompany. The SAS and SBS preferred the American template of keeping the unilateral and bilateral roles separate from each other, which is how Charlie Beckwith built Delta Force in the mid 70s. Delta was built to be operate unilateral and the Green Berets would handle the bilateral (training and advising of host nation partner forces.) For decades the SAS and SBS were having to do both roles. Christian Craighead was actually doing exactly that when he was in Kenya training the Nairobi’s crisis response force. Going forward, the SAS and SBS will no longer have a hand in those mission sets.

@picolascage5270

4 ай бұрын

I literally see you on every video pertaining to a JSOC unit lol. We have very similar interests.

@spammodump

4 ай бұрын

“22 SAS are the British version of US Delta Force.” I think you’ll find Delta Force are the US version of the British SAS.

@engineer6250

4 ай бұрын

@@spammodump correct. Stirling created the SAS in WWII, comprising of 2 regiments. after the war these regiments were disbanded, at which point the Reserve SAS regiment was created (21 SAS created from from Artists Rifles TA regiment, based in Southeast England, later to be joined by 23 SAS in the North of England).). Charlie Beckwith in his book actually details his time with 22 SAS, before returning to USA to start Delta. As Delta would take some time to get up and running smaller interim unit was created called Blue Light.

@SuperEdge67

4 ай бұрын

The SAS predates ALL American special forces.

@spammodump

4 ай бұрын

@@SuperEdge67 Britain predates America.

Brilliant, brave man

The movie "Who Dares Wins" is referenced here. The star of that, Lewis Collins joined the SAS reserve regiment and passed selection.

@catlee8064

3 ай бұрын

No, he was rejected because he was famous. He only served in the TA para's.

@robbot9414

3 ай бұрын

He never made the cut actually

This man is a legend! Thank you for serving and keeping us all safe.

@jackjones1249

Ай бұрын

Safe from what?

@THEJAM-EATERS

Ай бұрын

Do you cuddle soft toys at night don't you.

@colincampbell4251

Ай бұрын

@THEJAM-EATERS No mate, I served and respected other veterans who have given you the freedoms you enjoy in our country.

@jackjones1249

Ай бұрын

@@colincampbell4251 To play devils advocate what freedoms did you or the guy in the video give us?.

@colincampbell4251

Ай бұрын

@@jackjones1249 learn your history

If all that were needed were one unit, one regiment there would only be the SAS. Selection then you go to Hereford as people know, or do your diving, go to poole. There are differences, hence the need for both. Most go down the SAS route, but army can stay on a bit longer and go to Poole. Other than that questions about interrogation etc, you will get vague answers from the guys, it's not Americans. Every single one of them is SF.

I have never been in the military but in my working life I worked with both the SBS (M Squadron) and the SAS. A privilege!

@JammyDodger45

3 ай бұрын

Do you work in a Clap Clinic?

@mikeross4

3 ай бұрын

@@JammyDodger45 ?

@JammyDodger45

3 ай бұрын

🤷🏻‍♂️

@nelsonhibbert5267

2 ай бұрын

@@JammyDodger45🤣 I used to work at a microbiology lab where we would process the HVS swabs (vaginal swabs) sent to us from the local GUM clinic. Whenever the naval ships came into port the number of samples went through the roof. It became a saying to anyone that looked busy: "ships in?".

@JammyDodger45

2 ай бұрын

Precisely the fact I was alluding to! Cheers.

Delta and Devgru are a version onfthe SAS/ SBS as they are the first documented special forces regiment.

That end that u said was right bro but scary AF honestly

At 2:27 you can see the answer of Craighead and his smirk like saying "SAS are better than SBS but we dont tell them". Shawn gets it (like Seal Team 6 and Delta) , smiles and continues. The beef between operators is worldwide

@Jamtastical

2 ай бұрын

That’s cause it’s not the case at all. The SBS are superior and he knows it. That’s why the smirk. Do some reading and you’ll see why.

@86Smally

Ай бұрын

The SBS are far superior they literally do everything the SAS does and more. The operational capabilities of the SBS and the SAS are broadly similar. However, the SBS (being the principal Royal Navy contribution to UKSF) has the additional training and equipment required to lead in the maritime, amphibious and riverine environments including underwater missions and sabotage

It's different in England compared to Australia and New Zealand our SAS do everything from amphibious to air troop to mountain troop then mobility troop we do it all NZSAS & SASR

@dylanjohns8409

2 ай бұрын

So do the UK. every squadron has those 4 troops. Same with the SBS.

He was almost back in the interrogation phase responding “I can’t answer that, Sir … “.

Shaun, what would you say to having former South African Special Forces on the show? Seems like a lot of stories from there that we don't typcially hear about.

@AntonAdelson

Ай бұрын

Anyone from Israeli tier one or intelligence services came?

Checking the knots

He was being very diplomatic regarding the comparison between the two forces.

@rob8493

Ай бұрын

Very diplomatic? He was trying to suggest the SAS are better. He is an arrogant clown who knows the reality is that the SBS has always been the pinnacle of special forces. They do further continuation training and 90% come from the Royal Marines.

@ObeDeFirenze

27 күн бұрын

@@rob8493I’ve seen you crying on like 4 comments it’s actually embarrassing. You could never make either and would not say anything to anybody’s face from any SF group. That’s why your sat crying on KZread get a life pal seriously absolutely embarrassing.

There's also a little known SCS "Special Car Service".

@its_rick_james_bich2575

3 ай бұрын

The SCS are a well known and respected sofa company in the UK. Highly professional operators who know how to make a sale!

@Silverfisken1337

2 ай бұрын

Also known as Clarksons Top Gear

@ccmogs5757

2 ай бұрын

They always deliver ..............

KZread algorithm really does just get me

To think the soldiers that attempt the course have been in the millitary for 4 + years they are regarded as proberbly the most well trained infantryman on the planet, the Paras and the royal marines aswell as professional infantry regiments around the UK....also they would be the top soldiers within those corpse/ regiments which is hard core. Put it this way other "special forces" around the world recruit straight from civilian life.

@chazzlebazzle69

2 ай бұрын

Plenty of Guards have been successful in selection, Lifeguards, Blues and Royals too

Wonder if shawn has noticed how closely JTF2 selection is too the SAS ;) probably has of course, Shawn love the channel great work and glad you got austin on here and Cris

@jean-sebastienouellet2849

4 ай бұрын

its totally different, stop bsing

@jjt1093

4 ай бұрын

@jean-sebastienouellet2849 not the principle of the mental testing it's not, nor what they are looking for

I come from a military background. Both my grandfathers and 3 uncles 2 cousins my own mom and 2 brothers and my eldest son have all been in some branch of the military. I have nothing but respect and pride for any branch of our military. Including the T.A. I have the same respect for all military. I hate seeing others treat our soldiers with so much disrespect. The UK is the only European country that routinely recruits people aged under 18. SAS or SBS are the pride of the country. Us Brits are laid back we only rose up if you threatened our way of life. Sadly those days are gone as the youth of today have been taught by the media, their schools that they're evil. Recruitment is so bad that politicians are pushing for conscription. I personally think they should have done this a long time ago. Taught them some god damn respect. You are more likely to find these days WOMEN rising up to defend these shores. This man right here is a legend but if you didn't know his story you would never have guessed it. That's the entire point we don't know who are SBS or SAS

@ronhall9039

Ай бұрын

While I acknowledge your pride and respect your family history, most ordinary people in the UK will have in their family tree dads, grandads, grandmothers who did WW1/WW2/ National Service (which included Korea and lots of nasty 'police actions'). My paternal Grandfather fought in both World Wars - very young in the War to End all Wars and as a Pioneer in WW2. He wasn't braveor a total warmonger but apparently had a hard time dealing with civilian life (and a big family) in the 1930's, so joining up took a lot of responsibility off him The thing that triggered me (what a horrible phrase) was when you said "Recruitment is so bad that politicians are pushing for conscription". That's absolute bullshit. The problem that the Forces have filling positions is the box ticking that the senior ranks are bowing down to. The RAF won't recruit white pilots, the Army and the RN are going through a similar spasm. In other words the current administration for reasons best known to themselves are ignoring the vast pool of potential that the UK have - the working class white young male. Until they address this incomprehensible folly they will struggle with recruits as the other elements of the UK population don't seem to buy into a life of service to the Crown. As a PS - could this conscription musing be a subtle way of dissuading the illegal immigrants? They would not be best pleased if they got out of their boats and were immediately issued with a uniform, a rifle and seconded to the 'Anglo-Ukrainian Volunteer Battalion' of the 2nd No Hope Brigade 5th Infantry Division (The Meatgrinders). Just a thought...

joint selection is only recent, before it was separate . anyone as a Moutain Leader (ML) class 1 like myself could not go Canoeist but I worked with Boaties in my time. ML's are the Mountain and artic warfare unit and the Cadre course was considered harder than the SAS and SBS courses

@JammyDodger45

2 ай бұрын

Joint Selection started a 1/4 of a century ago!

@alexkerr8770

2 ай бұрын

He he

@rob8493

Ай бұрын

I’m all my time in the RM corp I have never heard anyone say the ML course was harder than selection. Yes it’s a hard course but selection into the SBS is the pinocle.

@piratezippy

Ай бұрын

@@JammyDodger45 I was out by 87!

@piratezippy

Ай бұрын

@@rob8493 well I had a few boaties say it when I was in. I was gone by 87

British Marines tend to veer towards Special Boat Service & British Paratroopers go for Special Air Service. Although there are no hard & fast rules, if you're good enough you will eventually get there, Who Dares Wins!

@kjvenom8508

28 күн бұрын

Sixty percent of the regiment are from the PARAS . 1 PARA are SFSG anyway the other 40 percent are crap hats coming from other regiments.

Same as SBS guys , course were one guy passed ! Ans a couple of cse were only two passed

@EvoraGT430

4 ай бұрын

90% failure rate.....

Honestly I’m not concerned if it diminishes globally, because the next conflict will drive a surge of applicants. However if they lower standards to increase numbers. Well then you’re blunting your spear tip.

@2:20 is GOLDEN (SAS vs SBS) the smirks says it all.....

Sbs sea based sas land based. But both can work together or independently

True things are moving away from Counter terrorism to Hybrid warfare where things are very ambiguous.

I’m curious to know the difference as well. I always thought it was only SAS but I’m sure SBS guys are hardcore as well. Jason Fox was SBS.

@aaronking2369

4 ай бұрын

Do exactly the same training sbs just do extra dive training on top. Royal marines normally join the sbs and people from the army join the sas

@jimfisher7727

4 ай бұрын

its simple...SBS are the british Navy special forces and the SAS are the Army and airforce special forces historically.....things have changed how they can apply to each now and the selection is integrated....it never used to be.....but historically the Parachute Regiment provided the bulk of the SAS and the Royal Marines supplied the SBS...they both do the same job, the SAS have boat troop that are as capable as the SBS in water then the SBS will learn freefall and HALO/HAHO etc and be just as capable on land or in the air. both the Paras and Marines are classed, or used to be...as special forces in the UK hence they provide the bulk as they are already very highly trained lads

@samcerulean1412

3 ай бұрын

The SBS has harder training regime, the SBS do much of the same training that the SAS do but with a lot extra on top.

@me5969

3 ай бұрын

​​@@samcerulean1412no, that's not true. Everyone gets badged and then goes off to do extra training. So boat troop go off with the SBS, Mountain Troop go off to do an advanced mountaineering course. Mobility troop and air troop go off to do their thing. Biases aside it's like saying the Paras are better than the bootnecks because we go to Brize. It's disingenuous because they do water stuff so it's not like they're just training to be a regular infantry battalion but even then there's bootnecks that can jump just like there's sas that dive

@robbot9414

3 ай бұрын

​@@aaronking2369wrong

Problem with this explanation is that there is no real difference now, but there was a massive difference back in the day before joint selection. SBS had a tough time before that, they got all hand me down gear from the SAS shitty funding compared to the SAS and they never got the same chances to go on missions. I don't know when the obvious happened as in the big wigs realising, we don't just have to use them in the water lol.

I always thought it was when the train broke down: Special Bus Service

The difference? An "A" and a "B". Air and Boats. The SBs also do diving on O2 equipment which the Air does not.

Interesting to see how former SAS and SBS can hardly talk about gear and operating procedures and Navy Seals are shouting it from the rooftops 😅.

@jimfisher7727

4 ай бұрын

Andy Mcnab of Bravo Two Zero detailed a lot of SAS sop's in his book and after that the MOD made new members sign waivers regarding it all

@wattsmichaele

4 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!!……comment of the year👍

@waynesmith2287

4 ай бұрын

As my dad said after over 40 years in military "What I did is between me and the MOD and is nobody else's business." It drove him spare when some one would talk or write about a mission. I've just retired after 22 years same response.

@tokukeitaro

2 ай бұрын

British government classifies military info routinely and there is no absolute freedom of information in British law. America has FOIA so everything is available to the public if requested by the citizenry.

I wanna know HOW any special force trained officer could advance Criminal45?

I am new to the wonderful channel, but want to know about Shawn Ryan ❗️❓

What about E Squadron?

@RubbishGimpy

3 ай бұрын

The electric vehicle division. No sound 100% stealth.

Awesome episode Shawn! Please get Air Force Combat Controller Ish Villegas on next please

Their on our side, that's all that matters !!!

a guy who can make life or death decisions in 1/1000th of a second but having to measure his words as not to reveal any secrets.

@jb6368

4 ай бұрын

Called thin slicing apprently. Some university years ago did research on surgeons and also special forces etc people at end of line who must make life death decisions without thinking etc. Was fascinating piece,,

SAS Slightly Average Soldier.... SBS Slightly Better Soldier..... 😉

@Si-Toecutter

4 ай бұрын

Shut up stolen valour boy, tryna hint you would know

@alanserjeant4947

28 күн бұрын

Don't repeat that in any pub in Hereford. 🙂😂

His reluctance to discuss Selection among other things is a stark contrast with the navy seal / devgru disclosure.

@Kenneth-cn8dx

4 ай бұрын

It's taboo

@billybrand9976

4 ай бұрын

Which is funny as John McAleese and Eddie Stone gave it away 20 years ago

@Kenneth-cn8dx

4 ай бұрын

@@billybrand9976 alot different now to twenty years ago

@metalicminer6231

4 ай бұрын

Mk mind control.

@garagenigel

4 ай бұрын

It's changed a hell of slot since their day!​@@billybrand9976

There are about 2500 Navy Seals, 400-600 SAS and 200-250 SBS personnel at any one time.

Interesting to hear him say the numbers are reducing because the "War on Terror is finished". I was 18 in 2002, I didn't join up then because the non-specifc nature of that emerging conflict was not attractive. It looked clearly Iraq 2 especially, wasn't about protecting the homelands but about securing the oil. And fuck dying for that. However, today, with the obvious threat from Russia, I'm now 40 but if were 20, I would join up immediately. The current threat feels much more real, and something you could fight against than the "war on terror". I actually have an application in to join the RAF, but Im not optomistic about it.

I thought James's Maddison was playing football for Tottenham 😂😂😂

You wouldn’t tell the difference if they were kicking your door in

@Kenneth-cn8dx

4 ай бұрын

That's all that matters

@G4x5da

4 ай бұрын

Well, if it happens on a oil rig, it’s probably SBS

SBS I thought were Royal Marines & SAS are Army. But hey, both teams are badasses. I'm sure the SBS has done way more "holy shit" stuff than any other team because no one hears about them

@crowbar9566

4 ай бұрын

I think SBS, like the Marines are ostensibly part of the navy. SAS ostensibly part of the army, but in practice both come under some kind of special forces command along with SFSG, the new army rangers unit, and some unois within the paras and marines like Pathfinders etc (tier 2 SF).

@OMT988

4 ай бұрын

@@crowbar9566 close, army rangers and paras/ marines (other than SFSG) are not part of the SF group. SFSG and SRR would be considered tier 2 (if we used that system) because they do a special task (SF) but they support the 'tier 1' units....ie they aren't really stand alone strike units like SAS/SBS who are capable of doing the full spectrum of tasks. I missed out; Pathfinders etc are the brigade recce for their respective brigade, so aren't considered SF although Paras and Marines are seen as elite troops.

@OMT988

4 ай бұрын

@@Abefroman1812 cool story big lad...only in SRRs mind are they tier 1...for any one that understand why theres the tier system knows they support Tier 1. (yes they do stand alone tasks but their job is to gain intelligence to allow tier 1 to target...thats a Tier 2 role as SAS and SBS also gather intelligence to target their own targets.

@mattersabo3117

4 ай бұрын

The sbs, RM SFC, RM smg, RM smu are navy but come under the command of UKSF. The RM and all it's teams come under ukcf (navy command) although various RM teams have a back up domestic CT role. The RM is a NATO level 2 (white) sof raid/ vbss/ maritime ops force. The sbs is a level 3 (black) sof force. Although the UK does not classify any unit based off level or tiers (bare in mind NATO's sof level classification does not follow the same format as the US tier system). The sas, srr, 18 sigs are army units that come under the command of UKSF Sfsg is a Tri service unit that comes under the command of UKSF.

@Art-is-craft

4 ай бұрын

SBS are naval based and started directly under Royal Marine Commandos. SAS are army but were started from commandos in WW2.

Good chat but why is it filmed in near total darkness..?

@jfilm7466

2 ай бұрын

Because it's cozy😊

From what I read of books authored by ex SBS members, so take that with a pinch of salt, there's two stages of selection. If you pass Stage 1 you can join the SAS or do stage 2, if you pass Stage 2 you can join the SBS, if you fail Stage 2 you can still join the SAS which creates a lot of rivalry between the two services as the SBS members claim the SAS is just SBS drop outs, people who never passed Stage 2. Now unless the recruitment has changed since those books were published idk.

@pabloburlinksi18

3 ай бұрын

This is incorrect. Selection has been joint since the 70s - as described in this interview. Once badged you then do the continuation training of the unit you are joining. There is complete parity

@JammyDodger45

3 ай бұрын

Selection has been Joint for about 25yrs not since the 70s. Also you don't get badged until you've passed Continuation Stage which concludes with Resistance to Interrogation. When CF talks about continuation here he's referring to unit routine training once you've passed the course.

Super BEAST! 😮

You do a selection test if your deemed worthy by your battalion when you are a full time soldier after you have done other cadre’s ie skill at arms and escape and evasion but your being constantly monitored fitness and mentality are very understanding you are a team player but you can cut loose and perform as an individual if and when required but things could have changed these days who knows with the involvement of politicians?

What about Navy Seals/Delta Force/Green Beret, are they considered equal as in SAS/SBS?

@rickyyo215

3 ай бұрын

SAS/SBS are tier 1. Equivalent to delta and devgru. green berets and seals are tier 2.

@Jamtastical

2 ай бұрын

They have no equal. SBS no1 followed closely by SAS.

There is no real difference. Just SBS has an extra water element, and they work together in UKSF, taking tasks as they come. You should get some more UKSF members on the show Shaun.

@trident1314

4 ай бұрын

SAS also have the water element with boat troop. The difference is in primary responsibility with SAS doing land based operations and SBS doing amphibious stuff.

@Bigman-fh1fz

4 ай бұрын

@@trident1314boat troop is more about inserting from the water vs diving and doing under water operations

@trident1314

4 ай бұрын

@@Bigman-fh1fz happy to be corrected but I'm sure in the past at least they did dives and underwater stuff.

@bopndop2347

2 ай бұрын

It's not just an extra water element though. They literally train and invent tactics for covert water based operations, it's a completely different skillset.

They are equal to each other and they both know it

SBS are better looking and taller.

@unknown779-on8lm

4 ай бұрын

Also SBS tend to be more muscular & more intelligent on average !

@chumleyk

4 ай бұрын

That sounded like a slurpy hock hock hock hock to me.

@hhhsf4357

4 ай бұрын

SBS have tighter t shirts and more fragrant hair gel

@IO-zg8md

4 ай бұрын

SBS have more cross-dressers (but only just)

@PabloE888

3 ай бұрын

You have to be essence to be badged SBS, if your a honking creature then a blade you will be.

Dunno. My mate was 8 years royal marine, but joined 22 instead of SBS. Dunno how or why. I thought he would have went SBS.

@Art-is-craft

4 ай бұрын

If your mate was active 25 years ago he would have been SBS. Today both SAS and SBS come under special forces command.

@auxiliary4023

2 ай бұрын

Lot's of guy's couldn't handle rebreather diving, so left the corps and joined the SAS as was the procedure back then. No disgrace at all!

Small correction... Anybody can apply for UKSF selection. To join SBS though, you have to have completed UK all arms course (Commando course).

@JammyDodger45

2 ай бұрын

You do not need to be Commando trained to apply for SBS. You're wrong.

The second letter??

They are the same but one is naval and the other is land

One hides their faces!

Shawn,u should get Chris Ryan from the S.A.S, THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY, BRAVO2ZERO

This guy is Sean’s worst nightmare.

SBS is local multi cultural TV in Australia.

@youwebz

4 ай бұрын

Duh

Cold water and still think...

The Brandenburgs were the original.

Not strictly true SBS were far superior and this is why. Previously anyone can apply for SAS selection from an RAF chef or a Navy storeman but SBS selection was only taken from members of the Royal Marine commandos which clearly are a high standard and specially trained already at that time SBS training was also longer it was possible to fail SBS selection and still make SAS depending on what part you had failed at . The only exception to the intake being from RM was medics which were taken from The Royal navy which at that time had Royal Navy Commandos .this all changed circa 2002 ish . So SBS was longer and had higher standards.

@cordellej

2 ай бұрын

the SBS also recruit from the royal engineers . members of the royal engineer commando squadron can also go for SBS. the royal engineers are the only ones in the British military that can apply for any other unit they feel they would enjoy doing be it SAS/SBS/SRR/SSR or SFSG

Simular like Target individual, doo? someone follow me?who me!?mm?magic dust, beyond the black rainbow!? no remorse in the institution... much respect,peace

SAS is largely Army. SBS is largely Royal Marines. Under control of the Royal Navy.

@crowbar9566

4 ай бұрын

I feel like the RAF should have a special forces unit, but the army's SAS has already swiped the "Air" from the potential name.

@OMT988

4 ай бұрын

@@crowbar9566 the RAF only has one unit they can draw from with infantry experience RAF regiment(not that its essential, but its sure helpful for a fighting unit) . so they'd struggle to get enough of the type of 'SF characters'. But the RAF guys do join the SAS.

@YARROWS9

4 ай бұрын

@@OMT988 Yep. Some RAF Regiment guys successfully joined the SAS. Scotsman Bob Shepherd rose all the way to Seargent Major. Was on the Iranian Embassy op, and Falklands. Bloody warrior.

@Art-is-craft

4 ай бұрын

@@YARROWS9 SBS currently come under special forces command not Navy. What is more than likely going to happen is that the Navy will create its own social operations teams similar to the British army probably staffed by Commandos.

@YARROWS9

4 ай бұрын

@@Art-is-craft The Special Boat Service is under the Royal Navies command, unless they are needed for land based operations, then it is under Army command.

I assume you have to be able to swim quite well for the SBS.

@PaddyInf

4 ай бұрын

Yea. All UKSF haven't pass the SF swim test (3m entry, tread water for 9 minutes, then a 500m swim and a 10m underwater swim including retrieval of a weight from the bottom of the pool). SBS do the Swimmer Canoeist course post selection which has miles and miles of swimming, including lots of scuba.

@luckysticks

4 ай бұрын

Due to the fact that they can walk on water, they don’t have to be able to swim, but it helps.

@crowbar9566

4 ай бұрын

yeah fuck that @@PaddyInf

@wattsmichaele

4 ай бұрын

@@luckystickshahahahahaa…..excellent comment!!!👍

Countryside or coast. Which do you fancy. 🫡

Special boat service and special air service

No comment

There are other teams out there.

SAS, Special Air Service = Delta Force Motto - 'He Who Dares, Wins' UK's tier one Army SF regiment SBS, Special Boat Service = DEVGRU/Navy SEALS Motto - 'By Strength and Guile' UK's tier one maritime SF regiment Both were created in WW2. The SAS was born out of a need to para-drop small units behind German/Italian lines in North Africa. They would then rendezvous with the Long Range Desert Group, (LRDG,) who were equipped with jeeps/land-rovers, supplies and weapons to cross the desert and scout/ambush axis positions. Together, they would establish a FOB, from where they would strike axis airfields under the cover of darkness. Depending on the security/alertness of the airfield, they would either sneak in and take out guards quietly, while planting explosives on parked aircraft. Or they would drive in, guns blazing and strafe the enemy hit-and-run style. They rigged up their vehicles with as many machine guns as they could carry to do this, usually a set of twin Lewis guns bracketed together on the front passenger seat, with a Browning .50 cal mounted in the back, taken from an allied bomber, which had a faster rate of fire than the standard gun. These commando tactics were named 'Butcher and Bolt' by Winston Churchill, who was keen to find new, sustainable and effective ways to fight the axis powers where it would hurt them most and least expect. The destruction of these axis aircraft meant that Germany and Italy no longer could establish air superiority over the desert. British and allied convoys could now cross the desert and engage the enemy un-molested by bombing/strafing runs. Air attack was a massive hindrance to allied movement before this.. A convoy occasionally had a couple of self-propelled anti-aircraft tanks or vehicles escorting, but they were an in-adequate defense in small numbers against squadrons of axis fighter/bombers, who would often use tactics to draw their fire, while another plane would swoop down and attack from the other direction, destroying the air defense. Then they would proceed to destroy allied supply trucks, crippling their movement. After that, they would strafe infantry with machine guns and bomb/rocket any armored vehicles they could before heading home. If a convoy's water and/or fuel trucks were hit, you could not carry out your mission and you were a sitting duck waiting for re-supply unless you had enough spare to turn around and head home This was the birth of modern special forces as we know them today. All other special forces regiments across the world, including America's, have since been modeled on the SAS's structure and tactics. They are the most experienced tier one SF unit in the world. The unit specializes in a number of roles including counter-terrorism, hostage rescue, direct action and special reconnaissance. *Continued in reply*

@willfairrie2772

2 ай бұрын

*Copied from Wiki because they can tell it better than I can* The SBS starts with Roger Courtney, who became a commando in mid-1940 and was sent to the Combined Training Centre in Scotland. He was unsuccessful in his initial attempts to convince Admiral of the Fleet Sir Roger Keyes and later Admiral Theodore Hallett, commander of the Combined Training Centre, that his idea of a folding kayak brigade would be effective. He decided to infiltrate HMS Glengyle, an infantry landing ship anchored in the River Clyde. Courtney paddled to the ship, climbed aboard undetected, wrote his initials on the door to the captain's cabin, and stole a deck gun cover. He presented the soaking cover to a group of high-ranking Royal Navy officers meeting at a nearby Inveraray hotel. He was promoted to captain and given command of twelve men as the first Special Boat Service/Special Boat Section. *Back to me for long story short, more info on SBS op's in WW2 on their wiki page* - Afterwards the SBS proceeded to conduct numerous maritime-based raids and operations in the Mediterranean theatre against axis forces, mostly around the Greek islands, Crete, Rhodes, etc. *Wiki* - The SBS's principle roles are Surveillance and Reconnaissance (SR), including information reporting and target acquisition; Offensive Action (OA), including the direction of air strikes, artillery and naval gunfire, designation for precision guided munitions, use of integral weapons and demolitions; and Support and Influence (SI), including overseas training tasks. The SBS also provides immediate response Military Counter Terrorism (CT) and Maritime Counter Terrorism (MCT) teams. *Me* The SBS was formed around a year before the precursors of the US Navy SEALS, 'The Amphibious Scouts and Raiders'. The Navy SEAL's as we know them today were not officially founded until 1962. It is probably safe to say that the British shared their special naval warfare tactics with the Americans, who were seeking to create their own maritime SF unit to conduct operations against the Japanese in the pacific. Again, the SBS, alongside the SAS, paved the way and became the model for special warfare in maritime operations across the world.

Lew Collins god bless him,I bet he's smiling somewhere :0]

The SAS and SBS are so much different from their US counterparts whom are always portrayed exactly the same in almost every show.

Of course a para and SAS will say they are the same when he knows full well they’re not. RM and SBS will always be superior. Maybe not as much as before they amalgamated training but they are. You all know it. Feel free to argue even though you know it’s true. Cannot be arsed to go into why but for starters better soldiers to start with.

Skellern, dont shoot!

"so they are on a level"...... RYAN " yes, they are supposed to be" that says it all. Navy boys not so level.

they were SBS ones IDF killed in the aid convoy in Gaza

The SAS has a maritime/boat division

@RubbishGimpy

3 ай бұрын

They repair the SBS ribraiders.