The answer is to start the song in drop E and pitch down to C# at the end

@ZL1LoVeR

3 ай бұрын

This

@dylanmeldrum6444

3 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking

@DIRDANMUSIC

3 ай бұрын

Yep! exactly my thoughts hahaha

@sanskaraunofficial

3 ай бұрын

Great minds think alike, should switch back and forth throughout

@reyansh7715

3 ай бұрын

Hard

This series is why I love Thursdays

@scottdickson9224

3 ай бұрын

Thick riff Thursday is my drive home jam.

I didn't realize it was RIFF O'CLOCK 🔥🔥🔥

@SamBrockmann

3 ай бұрын

It's always RIFF O'CLOCK somewhere. 🤘🤘

@nickbroomhallmusic

3 ай бұрын

It's always riff o clock round here partner 🤠

Duble Drop C# - so COOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

this really reminds me of IA's Immolation of Night, especially when you added the chaotic drums at the start

@sethrich6012

3 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing, very similar

That C#..god…🔥It complements the riff so nicely with that thick texture soundscape 😮‍💨

I don't know if it's the Sleep Token in me but the double drop C# sounds SO FUCKING good. When the riff opens up it just HITS you

@nickbroomhallmusic

3 ай бұрын

Does Sleep Token play in C#?

@prod.SaintBySix

3 ай бұрын

@@nickbroomhallmusic Granite is in Double Drop B, Rain Double Drop A (MADNESS), Take Me Back To Eden is Double Drop C, maybe some others I can't remember right now but close enough! EDIT: The Love That You Want is one in particular that is in C#

@tusharjamwal

3 ай бұрын

@@nickbroomhallmusic lots of D#

I gotta say... the Drop E version is a little better imo. It's still heavy but a little bit tighter since it isn't as low.

This might be your best riff yet! My prayers have been answered, 8 string TRTs are peak

@nickbroomhallmusic

3 ай бұрын

Statistically, TRTs are 57% more likely to be 8 string than 6 or 7.

they work after each other as well🤷‍♀

@kingsunday1025

3 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing!

I remember years ago when we used to joke about drop tuning. "what are you going to do, go all the way back to E?" And now we're grooving in CC#. Crazy.

That‘s definitely the invent animate recipe

Dont ever stop doing these.

C# is sick af dude. That's the winner for me. Love the sound of the drums and just the overall groove too.

I think its a matter of structure. The intro and outro chugs sound really nice on drop E due to note clarity and the middle section just blooms with the double drop C#. So maybe if the riffs are arranged differently to accommodate both tunings (sorta like how spiritbox or northlane do) it would sound epic.

this is straight up Fellsilent and I ain't mad I'm not saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this I'm just saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this

@christopherknox1124

3 ай бұрын

What is my russian djent brother doing here

@caseymclane1972

3 ай бұрын

@@christopherknox1124 "always has been" hahaha No srsly, I've been hanging out here for like 6 months by now, this is some quality stuff our boy Nicky is doing here

@christopherknox1124

3 ай бұрын

@@caseymclane1972 amen!

sweet jesus. i thought the Drop E version was heavy...then ya hit us with the double drop. good lawdy

My band has been playing in double drop c# for a couple years now and I must say it was an acquired taste but I absolutely love it now

I think both work really well! in a perfect world i would use both in the same song, and drop pitching to C# during the chromatic version of the riff

@kingsunday1025

3 ай бұрын

+1

Double C# has much more bite and texture to my ear. Both are great.

I love when Nick gets proggy with polymetric stuff. It definitely gave off the Meshuggah vibes he was going for.

This sounds like it would fit on the "Heavener" album by Invent Animate. Add some spacy ambience and Marcus on a great chorus❤ This riff freaking slaps, my guy🔥

I hope you do this forever, like as a 60 year old man just throwing out the bangers on a Thursday

The chugs are more sinister in E, the dj0nt more expressed, but the song feels better in C#. Also you can combine those last parts as a key change in the song one after the other, that may go along nicely.

@MartinNephilim

3 ай бұрын

E than C#

Try using masking tape (or painter's tape) for muting single strings (inside strings you _don't_ want muted). Little wrap-around on string(s) to be muted, with tail of tape going up & over and stuck on to something else (like an also-muted string) to anchor it. Works a treat.

my observation. Drop E sounded like Animals As Leaders, double drop C# sounded like Mick Gordon

Giving me that old Cloudkicker song. Them chaotic drumss

The whole cotton ball and muted strings reminds me of the Shuriken guitar with the Line 6 Helix where you can mute individual strings.

Drop E definitely has the clarity and bite to it in the tighter sections. HOWEVER, the tone in the section right after the lo-fi part in double drop C# where it opens up just has a pair of fucking nuts on it.

the E beginning part is tight but the C# middle part hits so hard, the both have it in the end

Whatever inspires you to write your best work.

This series always inspires me to get off my ass and start a new project. Thanks Nick! Tones and playing are always spectacular.

Drop E was it for me. The mix felt more cohesive because on Double Drop C# the drums were a bit more disconnected from the guitars because of the very low tuning and they poked through a bit more. Though both are awesome. Great job Nick!

Drop E sounds better with the quick tempo, but you can inexplicably slow it down & drop it to Double C# for the neanderthalls + djentlemen. That’d be cool. Great riff btw!

Both are so cool that I kinda just wish we had a good ol' KEY CHANGE!

Dude, like the little taco girl says, “why not both…” drop E into the C# 🤌🏻 instant verse and happy fun times. 🤘🏼

Yes. It's almost exploring deeper parts of the ocean that not many have been able to see. Electrical tape works to mute unwanted strings btw. Love the channel. 🤘

The green Vader sounds so damn good!

Nick is a production mad man, look up to his skills and methods

Bro this is the BEST thick riff Thursday so far!

Chuggs sound meatier in C# and otherwise E sounds bitier and cleaner. Maybe them bois from Vildhjarta are on to something with the whole Whammy shananigans

The Drop C # was so much powerfull and agressive ! 😎

Thanks bro. Im learning alot from the series and yea, both tunings are cool, the lower one has that shugah wibe but the palm muted chugs sounds better on drop e.

I look forward to Thursdays for two reasons...it is almost Friday and THICK RIFFS! 🤘

Liquid death is the source of all good riffs i swear

The best series

them drums though. sheeeeesh

Never thought I'd hear myself say this, but drop E is better. The note definition in the middle section is so much better where you can hear that waterfall of notes (can't help but stankface when I hear that) whereas the drop C# middle section you really only hear two notes - the lower and higher notes jumping between octaves.

Drop E sounds heavier to me, but I think it’s because of the string tension. Things sound much tighter and percussive. BUT, C# sounds so DOOM-esque that pitch shifting down to that might be the move. I guess it depends on what you define “heavy” as. It’s subjective, but for me heaviness with Prog comes from note definition and tight playing more so than a lower tuning. But, still an absolute banger as always. Feels like a Meshuggah/Periphery collab!

bro honestly I'm with you they both go so hard that I can't decide which one I prefer

Checking back in with the "These would modulte nicely into eachother"

That C# Is Massive OMG ... Drop E Sounds "Progressive" but C# Is definetly A Monster

Those pick scrapes are niiiice 🤘

The intro riff in drop E is very Silent Planet and I love it

in E the first riff sounds so much tighter and nasty, and the quad track riff sounds tighter too, has that spiky high pitched palm mute noise, its so brutal in C however, the second variant of the riff hits like a fucking BRIIIIIIIIIICK, it is so brutal maybe the secret answer is double drop D or D#, the middle ground between the two ! see if the brutality of the second riff in C carries over

Man Thursdays are the best!!!

For the riff at the end i would personally have them switch off and have both tunings do both parts

Drop C# is harder to contain from a mix standpoint, it's definitely a little muddier/missing some definition, but it just hits the spot

So sick!

E has more attack during that last section for sure - Double C# is “nastier” on that opening section cause of how low it is, but overall E just sits better IMO

Awesome content! Keep it up.

That Drop C#1 version of the riff is fucking nuts

f standard is definitely best 8 string tuning . fun fact the note F is the easiest note for speakers to reproduce and the clearest note you can tune down to. most bass in pop songs is done in the key of F for this reason

for your guitars sounding different the pickups are probably wound ever so slightly differently if they were hand wound which i'd expect them to be since keisel is more boutique

This reminds me of mortal reminder lmao such a dope demo

I gotta go with Drop E. It just sounds crisper and more in your face to me.

Honestly I prefer tuning higher as of recent. Trying to get those super low notes to have clarity is just such a pain that I just pitch shift if I want to go there. I mainly keep my 8 string in drop F and my 7 string in drop A#. Having thinner strings with high tension also helps when I do want to pitch down.

I feel like it sits really well with the double drop C#. It just hits you upside the head hard as shit😅

And here we go boys!

Reminds me of some john Browne style riffs. Very nice 👌

Opening up that riff was insane.

Cool riffage - reminds me of Invent animate - Immolation of Night

Every thursday, i headbang for 20 minutes

double drop C all day, that shit is sounding absolutely VILE.

drop e sounds insane, really cool. but if that riff was in normal drop c#, that would be even better.

I was waiting for the power move of “ Eh, we’ll just cut the string off.” Still a killer video though. Love catching up on TRT.

Your tone is solid af - reminds me of By The Thousands

I use folded printer paper to mute strings I don't want to ring out when recording. You can move it around and you don't get fibers everywhere. I just slide it under the strings I want to be quiet.

Love the videos. Would be cool if you made a video about your background and what happened with Chronologist

I was expecting to favor the double drop C, but oh no son...that drop E done did some ass whoopin'! 😂

Give this man some beverage endorsements

For muting unused strings i usually use Scotch tape together the strings in not using

@nickbroomhallmusic

3 ай бұрын

Yeah usually tape works but this time I was muting one string in between two others that I was playing

8 string is life

Invent Animate - Immolation of Night sounds plot like this riff

Nick broomthall back at it again with the stupidly low tunings 💪💪💪💪

It is like Invent Animate - Immolation Of Night

This has to be nick’s heaviest riff he’s ever written

That c# all the way. The percussive nature and also lower being heavier just as a fact of life

The drop E feels very Mick Gordon and I'm absolutely here for it. Feels more aggressive.

double drop c# on the palm muted section is way heavier, but the rest of it sounds better in E.. mix them together.

omg i just got the craziest idea. go double drop c# then for the chuggy part at the end start in ddc# then switch to drop e then back to ddec# ....... would be nasty

drop C# gives some serious Vitalism vibes

you should try messing around with drop E with the low b dropped to an A its not a crazy tuning but it does open up some unique riffage at least for me

Yo nick, love your vids man I have a similar setup.. with the Roland drums and a few guitars and basses.. can never seem to get a great sounding mastering chain.. would love a video on your master chain if you'd be willing to share. Cheers man love the content🤟🤟

Maybe having thinner strings on the green Vader while picking with the same intensity results in more audible transients?

If the track was straight instrumental Drop E, but if I were to add vocals drop C#. However Drop E is the favorite over here.

That just sounds like Pravus with extra steps

How would this riff sound if I completly open it up? 🤔🤔🤔 SO INSANE 🔥🔥🔥

I think you need a mix both tunings in one song. Use the drop e to build up to something in double drop C sharp

thick rifff