Heard an interview with Perkins late in his life. He was very articulate, reflective and clearly remarkably intelligent.

@kelloggs5473

3 жыл бұрын

@wholeNwon In that video interview, Tony Perkins does not discuss his personal life. He does not mention his wife. He does not reveal her name. Good for him. People should be interested in his career.

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473: Reveal her name? Everyone knew who his wife was. She was a famous photographer.

@lisawiggs9236

Жыл бұрын

saw him on PBS once and he played the piano and sang. Utterly chraming. Also, if you ever get a chance you have to see him in SNL ( back in the 70s.) He did a skit that had me crying I was laughing so hard. " The Norman Bates school of Hotel/Motel management. " Brilliant guy. And his son is a great director ( Osgood.)

@laceyroo5992

4 ай бұрын

​@@accomplice55 At this point, he wasn't married. He had no wife to talk about.

@accomplice55

4 ай бұрын

@@laceyroo5992: I was responding to a post about an interview done late in his life.

Tony’s face is so... active.

Anthony Perkins is absolutely perfect, what a darling.

@kelloggs5473

4 жыл бұрын

Intelligence? Without that, he doesn’t get the gig.

@christianheitmann4922

2 жыл бұрын

But so Not use His shower!

@lopa2828

2 жыл бұрын

He surely was but his played character of Norman Bates of Hitchcock directed "Psycho" overpowered his shy, normal, intelligent and classy mannerisms. Sadly most people remembered him as Norman Bates, not as Tony Perkins.

@jaimerojas277

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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He was such a gorgeous looking man, especially in his youth. Great actor as well.

Can understand the audience loved him. He was so cute.

He never thought of himself as a star because he had nothing to do with glamour. I personally think he's one of the most amazing actors I've ever seen in my whole life. He seems so kind , funny and nice and shy as well. Perkins was a good person and a wonderful man. A real man entangled in his " private trap".. his life. Even though he answers all the questions , his eyes always seem to be somewhere else. I've loved him since the very first time I saw him and his smile is filled with both sweetness and sadness.

@Muirmaiden

5 жыл бұрын

He was bisexual, and in today's world he could have been more open about it. However, he loved his wife and children (he was not forced to get married, he made the decision that he wanted to be a husband and father) and his wife Berry Berenson (tragically killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks) took care of him to the very end.

@kelloggs5473

4 жыл бұрын

Muirmaiden Please respect the memory of Berry Berenson-Perkins and thousands of others who died on 9/11. Do not discuss their private sex lives or the private sex lives of their spouses. Those who died on that terrible day can not speak for themselves.

@Larettadude

4 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473 Oh I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful, but I never mentioned his sexual life.

@elisabethlinz4256

3 жыл бұрын

Lara Dietrich, I really like your comment!!!

@Larettadude

3 жыл бұрын

@@elisabethlinz4256 Oh thanks!!! =)))

I love Perkins' reaction at 20:52!

Tony Perkins' Aussie accent was actually pretty good. Well done to him!

I am not old enough to remember this Tony Perkins. The one that I do remember was dark and aloof. It was wonderful seeing this very handsome Tony with the best smile!

Rest in peace, Anthony Perkins.

Anthony Perkins! Amazing actor! Even when he was younger. Better remembered as Norman Bates, but he played so many other characters so well also!

@lopa2828

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I am in totally love with this man from the first day I saw him in movies

@brookehanley3659

6 ай бұрын

Liked him in ‘Tall Story’

What a sensational entertainer he was and extremely handsome!

Too bad after Psycho everyone thought Tony Perkins was Norman Bates.

@mattbernabe

8 жыл бұрын

It's a shitty Hollywood curse for any actor who can master one iconic role and end up being type cast for the rest of their career.

@brookehanley3659

8 жыл бұрын

+mattbernabe Well said. Happened to Max Baer as Jethro on The Beverly Hillbillies too.

@brookehanley3659

8 жыл бұрын

+mattbernabe And Judy Norton Taylor as Mary Ellen on The Waltons. MAry Tyler Moore did not have that problem and she seemed to nail her roles so well on MTM show AND Dick Van Dyke as Laura. Maybe because her look seemed to change over the years, but I never saw Laura Petrie in Mary Richards ever.

@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301

8 жыл бұрын

maybe that's why she did a centerfold spread in Playboy to remove that typecast?

@brookehanley3659

8 жыл бұрын

orgonko the wildly untamed For sure.

If they only knew he was only a year away from making his biggest film ever -- and one that would be forever remembered -- PSYCHO!

Anthony Perkins was a genius! Loved his films!

Such a underestimated actor of his generation, I mean, just be honest no other could be able to performed Norman Bates the way he did. RIP genius

@brianekay4149

8 жыл бұрын

I know! I felt like he should have won the Oscar for his amazing performance as Norman Bates in Alfred Hitchcock's classic, 'Psycho.'

@Ace1King1

6 жыл бұрын

You're forgetting about Freddie Highmore.

@vhscopyofseinfeld

5 жыл бұрын

He was insanely ahead of his time as an actor in Psycho.

@susanb2015

5 жыл бұрын

@gcjerryusc FUCK YOU. A lot of people gain weight because of medicine. And there is more to life than fucking beauty. But not to most people.

@lilybean835

5 жыл бұрын

@gcjerryusc You are a total ass. Everyone thinks they're going to be in their 20's forever. Big surprise, but age catches up to everyone, and our bodies change as we get older. Comments like yours are disgusting and an embarrassment. LIFE happens. Dude, you need to grow up.

As an Aussie, I must say I'm impressed with Anthony Perkins' accent. One of the better Aussie accents I've heard from an American actor!

Handsome man

Anthony Perkins here, came across as very unassuming.He really was a great actor, he could do a superb stammer and look very nervous then be a killer the next moment.

So handsome 😍

Tony Perkins was a doll baby..... tormented and anguished in his private life, forced to keep everything hidden during a time when homosexual relationships were taboo...... It breaks my heart , I don't know that he ever found true happiness during his time here on Earth..... he was known to be a little shady in his 20's, but then again....we've all done things we aren't proud of.. There's something sweet and endearing about him.... He's one of my favorites. - Good post!

@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613

8 жыл бұрын

He was definitely ahead of his time, that's for sure. And boy was he hot!

@bryanchin4875

8 жыл бұрын

+Courtney Cook indeed..... I've been watching his films lately.... There's a fragility about him, a frailty.... It's very endearing, i hope he's at peace.

@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613

8 жыл бұрын

Bryan Chin I just watch his films to look at how hot he was.

@bryanchin4875

8 жыл бұрын

.... lol, there's that too. Try "Tall Story" with he and Jane Fonda, you get to see him in skimpy basketball clothes

@paullamontagne1899

6 жыл бұрын

Bryan Chin, VERY well put!!!! May God bless the late/gr8/original/1 & only Anthony Perkins- My all-time favorite actor!!!! ;-)

Tony is absolutely adorable

I just researched Tony Perkins on Google and realized that his wife had died in 9/11! He had already died in 1992 at age 60 and she died at age 53 in the terrorist attack in New York. Berry Berenson RIP

He was gorgeous

Andrew Garfield reminds me so much of Anthony Perkins, it's crazy!

@jolijnattema1638

6 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. They both don't/didn't consider themselfs a moviestar!!!

@65motowngirl

5 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean.

@kelloggs5473

4 жыл бұрын

Mariah Pearson I don’t see a close resemblance. I don’t notice whether either man wanted or wants to be a “movie star,” whatever that means.

@aledrudi95

3 жыл бұрын

The same person

@dominiquemendez6871

3 жыл бұрын

omgg yessss

Gorgeous man! He was perfectly cast in Psycho as well. I think he was typecast after that to a large degree. Awesome actor.

@joeambrose3260

4 жыл бұрын

Blah blah blah

@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeambrose3260 No u

@lopa2828

2 жыл бұрын

Yes unfortunately he was after that

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeambrose3260: Why are you always so rude?

A Hungarian trying to explain something to a Swede (with accents flying everywhere) was a moment of delight. And I liked the second challenger. A great-grandmother, and sixteen years with the Air Force, reaching the rank of Master Sergeant. That's not common.

I never saw saw much of Tony Perkins outside of Psycho but he seemed sweet and gentle in interviews I've seen

I have not stopped laughing. Zsa Zsa is the funniest thing on this showl.

@sharksport01

4 жыл бұрын

Her diamonds are blinding.

@LazyIRanch

4 жыл бұрын

I thought she was an adorable and funny. She was not dumb, this was part of her schtick and she's playing for laughs. Such a beautiful woman.

@pattimaeda6097

4 жыл бұрын

Lazy I Ranch no she’s stupid

@kristabrewer9363

4 жыл бұрын

@@pattimaeda6097 I guess you're stupid too

@raesmith2164

4 жыл бұрын

@@pattimaeda6097 speaks more languages than you do.

I always chalked up the nervous facial ticks of Norman Bates to good acting but it seems like Anthony Perkins just naturally had those facial mannerisms

@kelloggs5473

3 жыл бұрын

@MoeGreenesEye I don’t notice any nervous tics when Mr. Perkins is on-camera during this game show episode.

While Eva is my favorite of the sisters, I generally like Zsa Zsa as well. Her performance as a panelist is an exception. But whether you loved her or hated her, whether you think she's a dummy or a comic genius, for most of her life in the U.S. she achieved her idea of success. As she said, she was a terrific housekeeper: every time she married a man, she ended up keeping his house.

@marcleblanc3602

2 жыл бұрын

O that is nasty, she may have loved being married, but the beautiful funny lady didnt understand what Marriage meant. (its a Life commitment (in front of God) and not a house acquiring process)

Tony Perkins had a lovely voice

The first time Anthony Perkins appeared on WML as a mystery guest, Zsa Zsa's mother was also a contestant as the owner of a jewelry shop.

Amazing actor and wonderful man

Zsa Zsa was great fun!! Thanks for this ep and all the others. I watch every day.

@peternagy-im4be

Жыл бұрын

She was useless. Little more than a smiling hole in the air.

Seemed so sweet.

Anthony Perkins was Beautiful, everything about him just brings a smile to my face.

@kelloggs5473

3 жыл бұрын

@TheOnlyAnthony Mr. Perkins was handsome, not beautiful.

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473: Why not beautiful?

@maryamrafei7877

Жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473 all of your comments are irrelevant!!!!!!! are you dumb or sth like that??

@julliard

Жыл бұрын

@@accomplice55 Don't mind this comment. If you check out all the other comments from this person on this video you will see they go out of their way to disagree with everyone.

The picture Perkins had made in Australia was Stanley Kramer’s “On The Beach,” one of the terrifying nuclear apocalypse pictures that seemed so plausible at the time. I saw it when I was far too young and had bad dreams for weeks. It was excellent, actually, with Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, and Fred Astaire, but the DVD sits on my shelf unwatched: After sixty-one years I’m still afraid to look at it. Though Perkins’s character in “On The Beach” was that of a sympathetic young husband and father, “Psycho” was not the only picture in which Mr. Perkins scared people.

@cindytartt4048

2 жыл бұрын

Watch it soon -on Sept 12 it’ll be 30 years since Anthony died. I know as it happened to be a week before I was married.

The camera caught Arlene fixing her hair at the 2:11 mark.

This episode is definitely in my top ten!

LOVE this show. So elegant. So intelligent & clever - The panel AND the guests, no matter who they were. TV at its best. Thanks so much for posting these!!!!

So funny. I love it when John starts flipping cards!

Perkins is about, in a few months, to do "Psycho" with Hitchcock, in which he gives what may be the greatest acting performance I've ever seen. It's insane that he didn't win an Academy Award for it, although he did win the Best Actor Award from the International Board of Motion Picture Reviewers.

Tall, dark, handsome and so talented!

didnt know Tony's dad (Osgood) was also an actor..time to look it up

@pattimaeda6097

4 жыл бұрын

james joyce hr named his kid Osgood too

@plasticweapon

Ай бұрын

@@pattimaeda6097 osgood the second is a director.

Anthony Perkins before Psycho! So cool!

Gorgeousness

Mr. Perkins sings WONDERFULLY!!! In case you dont know. ❤

@joycepino9749

Жыл бұрын

He had a record called, I've Got a Date With the Preeties Girl in School

@joycepino9749

Жыл бұрын

sent this before able to spell check

They seem mesmerized by Ms Lundgren's looks.

Damn....never knew young Tony Perkins was so hot. & charming too.

@Absurdist1968

5 жыл бұрын

It worked for Tab Hunter...

@randysills4418

4 жыл бұрын

Either of them would have worked for me...

Tony's Australian accent was unbelievably good!

Love Zsa Zsa's exquisite self involvement.

@Vaginaninja

Ай бұрын

She seems like a really annoying, arrogant nuisance

@JohnParks-zc1pn

28 күн бұрын

What is to love about it? She is obnoxious.

Anthony perkins whas a handsome man ❤❤

I like Tony's wave to the audience.

Zsa Zsa appeared in 57 movies and spoke 5 languages. Her appearances on talk shows was legendary because she was so funny and fascinating to viewers worldwide.

@peternagy-im4be

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how?

@cindytartt4048

2 жыл бұрын

@@peternagy-im4be you had to be there….

@peternagy-im4be

Жыл бұрын

Funny how? The way she talks? Like a clown here to amuse you?

@Frankcastlepunisher74

Жыл бұрын

My Great Grandfather came to America with her. He said she was a stuck up snooty....well you can fill it in.

Awesome... first time I'm seeing this episode... LOVE Zsa Zsa Gabor...

Thanks again for posting these. After a long day at a public desk, I can relax with the gentle nature and manner of "What's My Line." And charming, lovely Arlene Francis also helps!

I was never a "fan" of Zsa Zsa Gabor--as opposed to her sister Eva--however I thought she was utterly charming here. She had a certain pixilated quality to her that I assume was part calculated and part natural. Aside from that, I wonder how much of her tenuous grasp of English was put on, and how much of it was real. By the way, she died today at the age of 99.

@kelloggs5473

4 жыл бұрын

519DJW Zsa Zsa Gabor did not actually “live” to be 99. She died before she died. In the 1970s, when her health seemed excellent, nobody knew her age / year of birth. She often talked about people not knowing that.

@519djw6

4 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473 To paraphrase Will Rogers, "All I know is what I read on Wikipedia." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsa_Zsa_Gabor

@SR-iy4gg

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473 She "died before she died?" Huh?

@kelloggs5473

3 жыл бұрын

@S R When I say Zsa Zsa Gabor died before she died, I’m referring to her medical condition that is documented by the photo you see when you click below. www.google.com/amp/s/www.intouchweekly.com/posts/zsa-zsa-gabor-is-nearing-death-report-47581/amp/

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473: She died before she died? Ok....

Zsa Zsa Gabor proving that yes What's My Line really is harder than it looks.

He was so nice

Noticed Dorothy's absence.

@sandrageorge3488

3 жыл бұрын

She was on vacation in Paris.

Anthony Perkins is beautiful 😍

I don’t know if he received an Academy Award nomination for Psycho. If not he should have. I saw the film when it first came out. The creepiest movie I had seen up to that point in time. And Perkins nailed his role.

Anthony is so so hot

@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613

8 жыл бұрын

I know!

@p.r9752

6 жыл бұрын

I love this guy,I love everything about him.Great talent but not reconized.He was better than many actors.He had a confusing life but he needed only of affection.Tony forever.

@joeambrose3260

4 жыл бұрын

Take a cold shower, Toni

@kelloggs5473

4 жыл бұрын

P. R A confusing life? Whatever that means!

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@kelloggs5473: It means he fought his homosexuality and even took part in "conversion therapy" that involved electroshock treatments. It's a shame that he had to deny who he really was.

Zsa Zsa was so hilarious! Love her to death. Wish she had done more starring roles in movies!

@peternagy-im4be

Жыл бұрын

She was utterly hopeless and totally useless.

@Frankcastlepunisher74

Жыл бұрын

@@peternagy-im4be my Great Grandfather knew her in Hungary and came to America with her, she was a snooty stuck up....well....fill in the final word.

@peternagy-im4be

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmerlin3344 is that genuinely all you've got?

Nice to hear a 'movie star' answer Serf's question like that. I would think the same if I was a 'movie star'. He's a hard working actor and they won't often match the myth of how they're talked about in the 'variety pages' as they say.

anthony perkins!

I loved Tony Perkins !

This is just 5 months before he started working on Psycho!

Loved the little old lady in the Air Force.

Dorothy was sorely missed in this show.

@sharksport01

4 жыл бұрын

Not by all.

love these shows

Martin pronounced Zsa Zsa Gabor like poetry....

he was such a great looking guy, espc young here, but even when he aged.

I laughed so hard at Debbie Reynolds pretending to be a Gabor, a few episodes ago, because she got it so spot on. Are we SURE that's really Zsa Zsa in this episode and not Debbie done up as Zsa Zsa? Hehehehehe.

@YOGI-yl4ff

7 жыл бұрын

One of the best MG's performances I've seen!

@neilmidkiff

6 жыл бұрын

sj Debbie is funnier as Zsa Zsa than Zsa Zsa is, in my opinion. Of course, Debbie credited Eva with coaching her in the part, and I've always found Eva funnier and more attractive than Zsa Zsa.

@YOGI-yl4ff

5 жыл бұрын

@gcjerryusc So true, first Eddie Fisher (1955-1959), then Harry Karl (1960-1973) and Richard Hamlett (1984-1996) Happy viewing from Las Vegas, NV November 1, 2018

Rather unfortunate that Dorothy was absent, and missed her chance to ask her favorite MG question: "Have you ever lost your address book from an airplane over Greece?"

Seeing Zsa Zsa makes me realize where Paris Hilton got her inspiration for her "dumb, giggly, useless, socialite" shtick from

@user-kj1pq6zh3x

7 ай бұрын

Gabor is the original Kardashian

I've always thought Zsa Zsa isn't the brightest light in the marquee and her performance on the panel in this episode didn't change my mind one bit. I wonder if they asked her back.

@brookehanley3659

8 жыл бұрын

+ToddSF 94109 I never saw her again. Some, if not all though, was an intentional act on her part.

@loissimmons6558

6 жыл бұрын

Zsa Zsa was on three times as the MG (one time after this episode), but thankfully this was her only appearance as a panelist. I give her credit for admitting she didn't know how to play the game and that's about all.

@finster1968

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone thinks Zsa Zsa is so hilarious. I just don’t see it. If she’s really this airheaded, that’s kind of sad. If it’s only an act, that makes it even worse.

@sharksport01

4 жыл бұрын

She couldnt be too dumb, she got world famous for accomplishing absolutely nothing. Phoney yes, but no more than Dorothy, thats why shes sitting in her chair.

@pattimaeda6097

4 жыл бұрын

SharkSport famous for doing nothing - who does that remind me of?😏

So Movies/Films were referred as pictures back in the day.

@Absurdist1968

5 жыл бұрын

What? They _were/are_ pictures. They're taken with *cameras.*

@accomplice55

2 жыл бұрын

@@Absurdist1968: It's rare to hear anyone saying they're going to the pictures.

21:26 LOL "Are you in Porgy & Bess?"

Zsa Zsa wasn't exactly known for her brains, was she?

@WhatsMyLine

10 жыл бұрын

I kept wondering when I watched this if she was playing this up for the camera, or she truly was this dumb. :) Very, very entertaining, to be sure, but one wonders if she's capable of turning on a light switch without assistance after seeing this appearance.

@Cosmic86x

10 жыл бұрын

well maybe not the most intelligent but I think she was a really cute and delightful person.

@ryanschroer

9 жыл бұрын

What's My Line? Her sister Eva had that same ability to play dumb. The Gabor sisters were good comic actresses. Eva was great fun on Match Game.

@daltonbelflower7331

9 жыл бұрын

I think it was mostly part of her persona. She acted dumb to be humorous; people thought she'd be dumb because of her looks and blonde hair. She was not dumb. Marilyn Monroe was not dumb, neither was Jayne Mansfield, Jean Harlow, Lana Turner, Betty Grable, Rita Hayworth, Jane Russell, or any other actress known especially for her beauty of face and figure. But to answer your unofficial question, no Zsa Zsa Gabor was no dummy.

@WhatsMyLine

8 жыл бұрын

Danny Schwartz Is it necessary to be insulting to another viewer this way in your response? No, it's not. Keep it civil or don't comment. Thank you.

For people born way after this time it's hard to understand Anthony Perkins had a long successful career before Psycho. That's how he is associated today. Also not widely known at this time, except perhaps a few Hollywood powerbrokers, Tab Hunter 'slept' at his house a few times. Don't know if it was around the date of this show specifically, just the general time frame.

As an Australian does good job with Aussie accent rip TP

Bennett Cerf and Arlene Francis are legends

Tony Perkins had a really tough early life. Wikipedia says his father died when Tony was 5 yrs old and his mother sexually abused him. He was also an only child. A lot to deal with.

Zsa Zsa did an amazing job. Very entertaining. And I TOTALLY would have screamed my pants off for Tony Perkins as well. AMAZING!!

I’m sorry but today’s actors compared to him, he is 1000 to 1. RIP ❤️

Martin Gable is getting quite good at this game.

To describe Tony Perkins as the recorder of hit records is a bit of a stretch. Even with his looks and his movie career, the best any of his records did on the charts was #24. I started listening to top 40 radio (WABC, WMCA and WINS) shortly before the British invasion hit the U.S. At that time, there was at most 10 years of accumulated hit music that appealed to the Baby Boomer generation which would be a source of "Solid Gold" to play on those stations. I am fairly certain I never heard his records played on any of those stations or any of the other stations in the NYC market that tried their hand at rock music for a time (WNBC, WCBS-FM, WOR-FM, WWDJ, etc.).

@sleb99

4 жыл бұрын

Lois Simmons never was on my favorites; WLS in Chicago or WFLI Jet Fly Chattanooga.

Ingemar Johansson was the mystery guest on February 1, 1959. Floyd Patterson was the mystery guest on December 16, 1956 and February 7, 1965. Johansson beat Patterson in the fight on June 26 (not June 25, as was stated in this episode by Martin and John) 1959, taking the title of world heavyweight champion away from him. Patterson regained the heavyweight title in a fight with Johansson in 1960, and Patterson beat Johansson again in 1961.

2:10 -- This has to be the only time on WML I ever saw Arlene fixing her hair on live TV. Zsa2 must have really rattled her.

@shirleyrombough8173

4 жыл бұрын

soulierinvestments - Yes, I wondered that myself!

Mahhhhhhhhtin gabel

Bennett was lucky Zsa Zsa did not cut him for that crack about her being jealous of that newspaper reporter.

I watch the episode previous to this and was sad that Dorothy was going on vacation but then I saw zsa zsa was a Panelist and started squealing.

“Mother! Oh God, mother! Blood! Blood!"

Johannson won that fight against Patterson to win the world heavyweight championship. He & Birgit divorced in 1969

@preppysocks209

5 жыл бұрын

yes and the fight took place the day after he married the first guest. But Patterson won it back from Johansson the following year and retained in the rubber match the year after that.

As an Australian you did good Mr Perkins wherever you are! Rip to you and your wife!

Arlene primps her hair while John does his usual opening remarks from his desk. (2:09)

how fun!

Oh Zsa Zsa...wow.