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@kalmmonke5037

Жыл бұрын

how is battery recycling

Such a cool video! Can't wait to see the Cyber Truck in your shop!

@zeren7217

Жыл бұрын

Wait! 10 hours and no one has replied? Hey Jerry love your videos and thanks for recommending this video!

@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936

Жыл бұрын

Assuming it will go into production. ( At least in any semblance of the prototype, and not a more traditional pickup form factor ) More chance someone will take an old military vehicle, and electrify it. 😀 Jerry, loved your recent cell-phone teardowns.

@NMSHAFKI

Жыл бұрын

I'm here after you video Jerry :D

@Mike-.

Жыл бұрын

@@NMSHAFKI samsies!

@maand0

Жыл бұрын

So where is the lithium?

Is it just me or is Cory getting in better shape each episode?

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

💪🏼

@emmanuelgutierrez8616

Жыл бұрын

Same thought. Obviously been cleaning up fir the show

NEVER clicked so fast!

Amazing to see this after waiting so long! Thank you for all your hard work!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

This is where Munro (and Antonio) excel in their technical knowledge, presentation, and content. This matters to me, and I appreciate it.

@squee8174

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is where i should shine. Haha

@geordonworley5618

Жыл бұрын

I recommend checking out The Limiting Factor as well for some even more in depth videos of battery tear-down in a lab setting in a nitrogen fume hood so that the original materials can be preserved and detected. They have ordered a cell from Munroe to test the latest cells, as the one they tested was from Kato road many months back and not from Texas.

@dosso96

Жыл бұрын

Any recent updates about 4680? I have the feeling things are nit going well…

@BatterVswithAntonio

Жыл бұрын

@@dosso96 Believe it lost some weight.

Great stuff. CT scans were cool and really helpful to see how it's put together.

Wooohooo!

@johntheux9238

Жыл бұрын

So that's basically the same battery you got your hands on? (NMC cathode with wet binding and anode with dry binding)

@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461

Жыл бұрын

🤗👋 HI JORDAN…💚💚💚

@thelimitingfactor

Жыл бұрын

@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 🤜🤛🤠

@thelimitingfactor

Жыл бұрын

@@johntheux9238 Looks like it! Won't know until it gets tested.

Such a good breakdown video. Thanks Munro team!

Been waiting for this one! Thanks Munro & Associates team 💪

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

Thank you folks, wonderful insight. Seen a few 4680 cell breakdown/teardown videos so far, this one is the perfect blend of technical details and practical implications

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

A few? Only seen one myself.

@PrayagIyer

Жыл бұрын

​@@rogerstarkey5390 You're probably right, the only other real teardown is from The Limiting Factor. Others are all theoretical/graphical

Excellent videos. Thank you Munro team👍⚡️

I really love these breakdowns and analysis so much. As a person with little knowledge and experience though, I miss Sandy coming in and telling me how this compares to other companies, where this puts Tesla, how relatively advanced the tech and techniques are, the pros and cons, what it says about the future, and generally just converting this data into useable information for a normie like me. These are enjoyable even though it feels more like a munro ad selling the reports.

@culdeus9559

Жыл бұрын

Sandy is great, but hit expertise is final assembly. He will give way to the experts on individual components where needed.

@NikoSeventeen

Жыл бұрын

@@culdeus9559 Exactly! I like having the expert to go over the details, then having someone (Usually its Sandy) to translate that into something a dummy like me can take away. Otherwise it is just technical speak for a very small group of people to really appreciate. Maybe it doesn't have to be Sandy, and maybe Munro doesn't really care about informing the general public about what is going on enough to spend the time and energy to do it for every single video, but from what I am understanding, Tesla is pulling off incredible feats of the future that I am excited about. It is hard to share that excitement with others who don't particularly know about it or care, when I can only share technical jargon videos with friends and family that they watch and just go "okay....?"

How "explosive" or volatile is the 4680? Since you guys have been taking so many safety precautions, it would be interesting to see some real destructive testing. Could use cells that are slightly damaged. Fire/heat test, nail test, water test, overload test, charge/discharge test, crush test(under hydraulic press), bullet test, freeze test, and throw-it-at-a-cybertruck test.

@veshares6552

Жыл бұрын

Yes we want 💥

@Cloxxki

Жыл бұрын

Bingo. But enclosure is a factor as well. Are there standardized tests yet for intrusion from the road surface side? There was the case of someone sh00ting into the floor of his Model S, the pack didn't like that. is that risk greater with the pack having now only layer less between cabin and cells?

@Mr2winners

Жыл бұрын

Hit one with a drill or axe (a charged one)

@RealDufour

Жыл бұрын

Love the last test, made me laugh! "throw-it-at-a-cybertruck test"

@JRP3

Жыл бұрын

They are overplaying the danger. 4680 format is no more dangerous than others to take apart. Fake drama.

Excellent! Looks like this was waaaay easier than the pack breakdown lol. Thankful y'all caught a small break. :)

Nice, another one! Excited to see what you reveal this time. Thanks is advance!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

You bet!

Brilliant guys, thanks so much for this

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Munro's media management is commendable too.Enjoyed it...!!!Love from Pakistan.

Could you put some of the cells into a cell tester, and run cycles, see how they perform and age?:)

So exciting to follow this journey to the core of 4680! Thank you!!

excellent, short crisp interessting video. Thank you.

One of the best video series

Amazing display, thank you.

Just bought a Model Y 4680. Fascinating video to watch. Thanks.

Excellent work guys!😊

I was curious to see this video after you mentioned it at Fully Charged LIVE. Your description is very informative! I have to say that building these cells seems like a more complicated process than I had imagined.

An amazing look at the battery!

Just a bit of advice for cutting open the individual batteries: Chuck the battery up in a lathe and mount a Dremel tool on the tool post. Using a very thin abrasive cutting disk or one of the serrated metal cutting disks, you should be able to use the cross slide to slowly feed the running dremel tool's cutting disk (with the lathe also running, but at very low rpm, 5-20 rpm) into the body of the battery. It's a nice way to precisely control the cutting of thin metals, especially those prone to tearing. I prefer the abrasive disks for this, but for your purposes, it might be easier to control the heat generated with a serrated metal cutting disk than with an abrasive disk. Seriously though, this is great for all kinds of cylindrical/conical/spherical (and anything in between) objects with thin walls (Stainless, Carbon fiber, whatever) as long as the part can be held in the chuck, it works great!

@squee8174

Жыл бұрын

... May have done something similar. No lathe though

so much engineering in a little can!

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

It's a big can - full of bandaids.

@paullester2535

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 can you expand on that?

@damilareowosangba7864

Жыл бұрын

@@paullester2535 you will never get one from 🤡s

@normal-cee869

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 you can't just throw a statement out there with no explanation - I am not a Tesla fan boy but appreciate their tech

Thanxs guys! you rock!

Totally awesome well done guys

Value received, thank you.

I've been waiting to this!

I'm like a couch engineer I love this stuff. Moar videos plz y'all r awesome thanks for sharing accurate quality information. Too much of the internet is opinion and fake it till you make it confidence and miss information you guys provide quality information. 👏👍

This is one of the most interesting videos you all have put out. Thank you for the close up zooms of all the guts!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Great job. Thank you.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

_Extremely_ informative as *_always._* I love watching your videos.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Awesome cell, really nice piece of tech.

Really good breakdown of the 4680. ML is the best.

Came from JerryRigEverything!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew

Bingo!! Amazing work!!!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@areitu

Жыл бұрын

@@MunroLive keep up the great work!

Came here from watching Dan's video on What's Inside! Awesome!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Antonio!

@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461

Жыл бұрын

🤗 MYSELF AS WELL…GREAT INSITES AS WELL 😁💚💚💚

Very interesting construction.

I would get those CT scan printed on metal to hang on my wall. So beautiful.

Jerry sent me!😊 Edit: I enjoyed watching this btw! It was really interesting.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Thank you!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!

Good job guys

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Captain Eli

@CaptainEli

Жыл бұрын

@@MunroLive big fan

@mubbywub

Жыл бұрын

Bro congratulated without watching the video

This is super cool! Will you be running any electrical charge/discharge testing on a cell and looking at the thermal properties of this new design?

I must have missed something, because in the beginning it was mentioned that this was the most exciting thing in years at Munro. But it’s been sitting on the shelf for 3 to 4 months? Someone please explain how that makes sense? Great video by the way! I’ve been waiting anxiously for this for 3 to 4 months!!! :)

This is all so over my head, but still enjoy watching. From what I gather, it's perdy dernn gud.

top job guys

Truly worth the wait Cory, i would imagine the likes of Mary Poppins & Oliver Bloom have been waiting for this too :) :) Go Team Munro :) :)

@Cloxxki

Жыл бұрын

Now if only it were able to offer cars 54% more range as promised. For now, the Model Y gets LESS range than with 3rd party 2170s. If the cell doesn't have significant advantage beyond theoretical cost (their 2170s never seemed worth expanding as they just imported whatever they could get their hands on, and all seemed cheaper and better than Giga Nevada cells), 4680 can't be used for Plaid+ and Roadster and be decently usable cars with the promised specs. No-one promised Roadster would be LIGHT, but with 200 kwh of these cells, that's already 720 kg of cells, likely 1000 kg for a pack all welded up, and only if record breaking for gross/net energy density. 54% more range on the Plaid would simple mean 50% more weight in the cells. Can the pack overheid be trimmed to compensate? Not so sure judging from Model Y being near identical weight for the 4680 but down on capacity and range, at least for now. Semi relies A LOT on energy density to get huge range and not ruin payload. Cyber with 500 mile range needs a 180-210 kWh pack as well. Or will they have a new process to make the steel exoskeleton end up super slick for aero? Worth developing for millions of trucks I guess, but Tesla tend to stumble a lot when innovating.

Thanks, guys.

very interesting! thank you! I hope Tesla can get the production of these under control.

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

Panasonic was clearly brought back to do that.

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 Panasonic seemed (seem) rather eager to continue the relationship. It's essentially a license to print money.

@nguyep4

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 Panasonic method is different. Tesla will continue to work out the dry process and among others to take the high volume production rate advantages associated with it.

Fascinating! We have come a very long way from the zinc-carbon D-size flashlight batteries of my youth {I'm 74}.

Dah nant, dah nah nant dah (repeat)... love the show.

Incredible

Antonio looks like a friendly giant eager to crunch through more cells :D

@BatterVswithAntonio

Жыл бұрын

😁🤣

2 Notifications :D Hey, just adding some levity. Excellent progress on the cell teardown! Can't wait to see SEM images and perhaps an EDX analysis.

as always figuring out how this battery was engineered is amazing thank you

And to think that Tesla and their partners will be spitting out 4680 battery cells like Tootsie Rolls soon. Amazing engineering!

Thanx.s Cool.job. Good.luck.

Thanks for the look inside fellas. That cathode materials is pretty different than what I was thinking. Recycling these should be relatively straight forward. The dang thing unrolls conveniently.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

No one is going to delicately disassemble cells for recycling. The method is shred and separate.

A simple suggestion… how about placing an 8 or 12 ounce Pepsi can beside a 4680 for scale, something anybody watching can instantly relate to!

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there are multiple sizes of Pepsi can, so it doesn't help much. The dimensions are right in the name... got a ruler? The 355 ml (12 oz) cans in my refrigerator are 66 mm in diameter and 123 mm tall, so the 46x80 mm cells are about two-thirds as big in each dimension. The 4680 would ideally be a 133 ml (4.5 oz)... so even smaller than an 8 oz can but I'm not really familiar with that size.

That copper also makes a great heat sink, awesome battery

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

It's not a heat sink

@cliftonsr

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 I said also makes a great heat sink, copper has many uses besides electrical conductivity and they need to make sure the heat can be transferred out of the cell

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

The point is, the short electrical path, up/ down to the tabs rather than along the whole length, reduces resistance, which normally causes heat. Therefore there's less, if any heat produced in the first place. Heat being energy, now not wasted the cell becomes more efficient. Implications for:- Efficiency of the cell (and pack). Heat stress reduction in the cathode / anode, improving longevity. Even temperature through the pack and reduced pack cooling required. Quite possibly faster charging (reduced throttling) ... As for the tabs, it's a conductor, normally electrical, but of heat if needed.

Hey guys great video...given the teardown you've done to the cell now do you see the potential in the current design that would lend credence to reports that Tesla is having production yield issues of this cell? Switching gears a bit....any thoughts on doing a performance assessment against other cells? Like a cell showdown of sorts. Cyber cell off :)

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

I count (at least) 7 new processes to be perfected in this cell. Not even the "tradition manufacturers" have used them (they possibly still don't use them all?) When they *do* get this right it's going to be transformative . As for the comparison, we already know the previous stripdown used a "lower grade" cathode material (Below the 2170 standard) The jist I got from this is that it's upgraded. Sandy already said they were "surprised" by the performance of this iteration, it was better than expected. . Now consider they gave an indication of the composition, but it isn't absolute cutting edge(?) . That indicates there's a lot more scope for improvement.

To understand more about the manufacturing and construction of the 4680, there's a great Show & Tell video about it. Among everything else, it discusses the six-sided Al/Cu plates and shows that they have a "springy" effect. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p36mrsWYc7XQZ5c.html

The equipment manufacturing those cell is no less a feat of engineering than the giga-press, and maybe even more so. The continuous consistency required is mind boggling.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

not to mention, all the Parts & Process elminated, toxic chemicals , eliminated, and the long ovens.

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

LOL….. it’s just additionalem machines to the already existing batteries assembly line nothing more

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 billshit!!! Toxic chemicals are still needed to make batteries stop talking crap!!!

@cengeb

Жыл бұрын

xray spectrometer is elemental analysis...not composition

@Capthrax1

Жыл бұрын

@@carholic-sz3qv it's less machines actually and it's machines built specifically for it. You make it obvious that you don't understand how complicated industrial processes are

WoW just WoW🙏🥇

Brilliant cell design

Cory and Antonio - Given the danger, thank you for an excellent analysis.

@JRP3

Жыл бұрын

Danger is minimal. People have been taking apart cells for years, no extra danger in the 4680 cell.

@Cloxxki

Жыл бұрын

Come on people who pay sticker for their Teslas have been known to shag in the back seat while on AP, do some gaming while on AP, do maximum accelerations in narrow streets, etc. Munro are pros. Invested in the gear, and can dismantle bombs pretty much.

pricey to make but an improvement from 2170/1865. then again, consider that past months was the first time in Tesla's history they weren't battery constrained despite the highest production numbers yet. It happened due to LFP batteries. I reckon, Model 3/Y Long Ranges will transition to LFP once the Semi/CT ramps so that these large vehicles get all the nickel based batteries.

Awesome teardown! Were any of the cells cycled to see the power density or the capacity of the total complete cell?

@theawfullest

Жыл бұрын

This is the question in my head -- and I'm wondering why they've delayed talking about battery performance. Total speculation, but I imagine if Tesla really were sandbagging performance they might politely ask them not to reveal anything yet.

THANKS CORY AND ANTONIO,AND EVERYONE AT MUNRO…FOR ALL YOUR 😓 HARD WORK…👍 And CORY looking cool 😎 calm and collected at 3:26 in the afternoon 😁💚💚💚

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

A minor point on terminology. According the "The Limiting Factor" channel (and an internet search confirms this), the term "tab" refers to a *separate strip of metal* that is welded to provide connectivity. In the 4680 battery, the tab-like flaps are not separate pieces of metal that have been welded to the jelly roll, but rather are part of the jelly roll's metal backing itself, and a laser was used to cut the flap shapes. Hence, it is correct to refer to the 4680 being "tabless" rather than "multi-tab". I don't come from a battery background, but I *assume* a multi-tab design would provide similar electrical characteristics to a tabless design. I also *assume* that using a laser to cut tab-like flaps into the jelly roll's metal backing offers advantages over welding multiple tabs to the jelly roll's backing, such as perhaps it is cheaper, faster, or more reliable.

@joansparky4439

Жыл бұрын

a tab is a piece that sticks out.. just like browser tabs That for economies of manufacturing reasons in roll-to-roll production for efficiency purposes they spot/laser/etc. well extra strips ONTO the strips that form the rolls is not what makes them tabs. And when the tabs run for the whole length of one side of a strip they still are called tabs and it doesn't become tab-less. I also doubt that the cut ins for both the copper and aluminium base material have been done by laser.. a simple cut/shear wheel running over one side in the roll-to-roll process would do just fine.

The thing is: they call it tabless because a tab is normally not the foil of the anode/cathode, but a small piece of metal welded to the anode/cathode. They cut the electrode and fold it over, and then collect it with this copper piece, which one could call the "tab"

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's not tabless - it has a continuous row of tabs comprised of the conductive sheet material, rather than a small tab added-on.

@SxWerks

Жыл бұрын

Should be called All Tab.

Very cool. This is a GEN 1 design. The way that the battery can is sealed and the current collector design will be different in GEN 2.

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

Jon, Was the "Jordan" cell a "1" and this is a "2"? This seems to have a dry cathode? (Maybe the one you speak of is a *3* ??)

@Cleanerwatt

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 Jordan's cell was a GEN 1. What makes you think that this is a DRY Cathode? I believe it is a wet process and doesn't have the POLYMER binder like the anode side which is holding togther much better.

What is the capacity of a cell in Amp hours or multiplied with nominal voltage: the capacity in Watt hours? Did you do measurements at cell level?

@Cloxxki

Жыл бұрын

Initial reports are that it's still in the 270 Wh/kg ballpark, perhaps on the higher side of that. Explains why the "OMG it's almost structural" Model Y is just barely lighter than the previous version, while having a lot less energy capacity and range. It it's 5.5 times larder than a 2170. If this costs less than 5.5x as much to product, they can try to make it worth there while NOT to simply buy LG cells like they have been. It gets interesting when they can make one of these for the price of 3x 2170, I guess. Apparently it can handle the energy demand cycles for a Model Y. I wonder whether it's ready to do the same for the Plaid. However, from the looks of things, it's NOT ready to bring Plaid and Roadster, even Semi and Cyber, the capacity they need, by lack of energy density.

@Cloxxki

Жыл бұрын

I personally don't like amp hours because it implies that all voltage are the same. While many are, I don't like the premise that leads to the use of amp hours. YMMV.

@alanrickett2537

Жыл бұрын

​@@Cloxxki source for them buying LG cells they buy from a lot of makers but not seen proof of LG

@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669

Жыл бұрын

@@alanrickett2537 I believe Giga Shanghai is using LG 2170 cells for higher end Tesla mod 3 and Y

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

@@Cloxxki You've got a surprise coming.tbey already said (weeks ago) "we were surprised by the cell performance" (It's not the same chemistry as the "Limiting Factor" cell)

The original design tesla showed on battery day did not have any welds to the jelly roll terminals instead they just used pressure against the end caps to provide thermal and electrical connection. I was surprising that that pressure contact alone was going to be good enough when those cells are subject to vibration and thermal cycling and contact corrosion and resistance heating inside the cell. Those flower petal end terminals with the roll tabs welded to them solve the terminal corrosion and resistive heating concern and they also act as a heat spreader so they must have found that pressure alone was not going to be good enough - and it also helps explain why it has taken longer than expected for the 4860 to reach production as they were supposed to be switching over much sooner than they have done. The new design seems very good.

Looks like a little fan blade lol. Pretty cool. I took apart a LiPo battery one time (I know these are Lithuim in the video) but anyways didn't think much of it and tossed it in the trash can in my shed then suddenly it went' "Poof" into flames I am glad i was out there! I knew the dangers but thought a bad lithium battery wouldn't do that lol.... What we learn!

Ну наконец-то, дождался. А как же так без сварки, просто прижатие. Но так дешевле техпроцесс). Банки титанатные также сделаны

Thank you for the update. Is the top and sides of the can a single piece of metal, like a cup? If so, I wonder how they form it? BTW, interesting that in the Limiting Factor's teardown of an early version, the bottom plate was insulated from the shell, seems like in the production the anode "flower" is sandwiched (and therefore electrically connected) to the two pieces.

@JRP3

Жыл бұрын

It's a deep draw metal stamping, same as all cylindrical cells, but upside down.

@satoshimanabe2493

Жыл бұрын

@@JRP3 Thanks for the info. I watched some videos on the process, very cool that they can maintain good dimensional control, especially of the sides.. As you state, most batteries have the seam on the button end, so this one being on the flat end is very interesting. There must be a good reason for this.

@JRP3

Жыл бұрын

@@satoshimanabe2493 They electrically isolate the bottom cap of the cell that way.

@HenryLoenwind

Жыл бұрын

The body of the can is a cup with a hole at the end. They put the contact (surrounded by that insulator gasket) into the hole, then push the jellyroll into it. In the centre of the jellyroll there is a rod, which then clamps the aluminium collector plate to the contact before it is pulled out. Then the bottom plate is clamped on, which makes contact with the copper side.

Have you guys tested the insulative properties of the pink foam and general thermal control of the cells? I'm thinking about freezing conditions as a drain that could be fixed with good insulation.

Will you guys make a conclusion video about the model 3 from austin? Would be nice to know how much has improved / still can be improved and how key metrics like weight, capacity efficiency etc. evolved.

Fire is packed inside!

Very awesome. Now I'm wondering, could it have Jeff dahn chemistry lifSi.. hehe

Came from what’s inside family 👍🏼

What's Inside a Tesla 4680 Battery? sugar & spice, everything nice!!.....& flowers!!🌻 What's Inside a Tesla 4680 Battery? lot's of hard work!, a love of technology. & a goal 2 make this better, 4 the future!👻

Copper 'rivet'/ pressure relief is inserted after electrolyte fill, it isn't used as a locating feature.

@tesla_tap

Жыл бұрын

Is there an electrolyte fill? Looks quite dry to me. I'd expect a gooey mess when they pulled it apart if the electrolyte was a liquid. Seems Tesla is using a dry process now.

@randomfan5817

Жыл бұрын

@@tesla_tap Tesla (Maxwell) dry process is for electrode manufacturing (no solvent to evaporate). Cells still have electrolyte that ions travel through. They only add enough to saturate the separator, no extra to slosh. A solid electrolyte cell would be totally dry.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

@@tesla_tap The electrolyte is drained and likely evaporates - it's a volatile hydrocarbon solvent.

The reason the flowers use inverted contacts (coming from inside or out) is to improve life by balancing where energy is pulled from.

Nice Milwaukee packout setup

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

I would love to see another video about this battery but with explanations of the terms they are using which have gone over my head.

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

Watch the Limiting Factor

@farmerpete6274

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 Will do! and thanks for the tip.

Thanks so much for doing this. This battery has as much mystery and question around it as the roll in the can!! Munro and Associates, it's no wonder how busy you guys all are these days since I am sure the world is beating a path to your door! Hope you guys enjoyed Fully Charged Live!! I hear it's a blast.

I was waiting for a 4680 build but couldn't wait as I needed a car, ended up getting a Freemont build

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

Lucky you - the gigacastings are writeoffs if damaged. The cells are impossible to salvage, which makes cash recovery by insurance companies very poor -- watch for higher insurance rates.

@joey_after_midnight

Жыл бұрын

I was split between this decision myself and then came to the conclusion that Cutting Edge" isn't always the best place to be. They have a lot of manufacturing processes to experiment with and work out and I needed a stable reliable car, even if they can fix most things with a software update. The 2170 is proven tech.

@unitrader403

Жыл бұрын

@@vidznstuff1 any Car would be a Writeoff with the damage required to get to the Castings..

@rogerstarkey5390

Жыл бұрын

@@unitrader403 Let the FUDs keep moaning, it's of little consequence 😉👍

Can you guys get your hands on an M3P cell? That's what I'm excited about right now.

Can you explain that CID and PTC removal drawbacks if any?

Have you considered north star imaging (NSI) they have been able to get us amazing images!

@demoticshadow2494

Жыл бұрын

What grayscale value did you get on a 16 bit panel for the various materials? What software do you use for post image analysis?

Wow, good teardown and explanation. The "flower petal" is actually the Galactic Empire logo...Elon sense of humor yet again.

JerryRigEverything is why I’m here.

@armanke13

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Me two

Is the disassembly video going to be posted to this KZread channel or elsewhere?