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@prosandconsguy7454

6 ай бұрын

What if you choose to save Harvey and not cat woman a choice I consider

I loved the way Harvey was shown in this game no matter what choices no made that no matter how many times you try to save Harvey he still ends up as Two-Face showing that the scars were never the reason. But that deep down that was all that trauma and supressed anger that finnaly came out. And John Doe also had amazing story if you choose the villain or vigilante path for him he'll always have an amazing story.

@bananatiergod

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Telltale's Batman was always more about character dynamics than following the source material. I personally stick to the "Save Selina" route but having Harvey without his burns but still slipping into madness from his paranoia and insecurities is still pretty effective.

@ricniks4619

4 ай бұрын

It's even back up by a Batman comic called The Dark Knight Returns where in that story Harvey's burn marks ended up healing completely but he still views himself as a freak and as Two Face no matter how many times they refer to him as Harvey.

@MasterTemplar781

4 ай бұрын

@@ricniks4619 Exactly. Deep down Harvey will always be Two-Face. Sadly that will always be his fate.

The second season definetley improved on a lot, the first's story will always shine though.

@lebunga7051

5 ай бұрын

I'm halfway through season 2 rn and agree. I love the game, all the dialog choices feel like batman at different points of his different character arcs. More of a playful joking tone, to a brutal tone, and a more methodical approach. Best scene for me so far was jim and batman on the roof. JIm sayS, "who are you talking to". batman just goes, "my butlerrrr" in the most brutal voice lmao

@Aleks-fv6gs

5 ай бұрын

@@lebunga7051 for sure, it felt more alive

Season two is so good. John Doe is definitely the best telltale Batman villain, and I can’t wait for you to cover it.

@adammarch9604

6 ай бұрын

His story is better, but I would say Harvey is probably my favorite

@captainmichaelstudios

6 ай бұрын

@@adammarch9604 valid

@itsblitz4437

6 ай бұрын

​@@adammarch9604especially given you have the choice for Harvey to be literally scarred for Two-Face or go for a non-scar Two-Faced which is quite a refreshing and somewhat new take on the Harvey Dent character.

@torad_2120

6 ай бұрын

Bro I actually like Telltale's Joker more than every other Joker

@jjonahjamerson6765

6 ай бұрын

Telltales Joker in my opinion is still so underrated

I’d love to see a video about Season 2. Despite having its fair share of issues, I think it’s take on the Batman/joker relationship is really interesting. It’s at the very least a unique take. And for once the game actively lets you change, a major story beat by deciding whether or not joker will become a super villain or a vigilante (personally I prefer the vigilante story, but the super villain stories is also really good)

@godzillazfriction

6 ай бұрын

i love the bit of your comment that is basically what the video fails to do 'refusal of elaboration' - what 'fair share of flaws' - does it have...?

@JacobNintendoNerd99

6 ай бұрын

"at the very least a unique take" is such a disservice. Its one of the only takes on Joker that actually bothers to justify why Batman refuses to kill Joker no matter how psychotic he gets and more importantly why Batman actually believes Joker isb redeemable. That last part is a little bit insane in 90% of continuities but is well founded in Telltale.

@Glenn_Quagmire

6 ай бұрын

​@@JacobNintendoNerd99you're right. Most jokers do super fucked up shit and are clearly irredeemable, but telltale batmans joker is more of a not well adjusted member of society who doesn't know any better.

This game only works if your goal Is to play as a faithful Batman. The best part is the bit with the little kid in vale’s house.

As much as I love TellTale, something that I've hated about them was how misleading their marketing was. The entire premise of their games was that they were choice based story games, but the times your choices actually mattered was underwhelmingly few, and when it came to the choices that really mattered in the stories, they'd undercut the importance of the choice by forcing the story to go in a predetermined route. One of the most annoying times this happened (heavy spoiler alert for Walking Dead season 2 & 3) was when you arrive at a survivor's complex at the end of WD s2 and they'll only let one person in. So, you have to choose as Clementine wether you want to go into the complex alone like Kenny is urging you to, leaving him to fend for himself in the wild but honouring his character arc as a father figure, or if you go refuse to go into the complex and go into the wilderness with Kenny. This was such a powerful ending for s2, but unfortunately they undercut that choice in s3 when you're shown a flashback of Kenny dying in some f*cking car accident, regardless of the choice you made at the end of s2. It was just so frustrating and I felt betrayed by the devs for ruining such a powerful moment in such a transparent way.

I agree the first season suffered from characters being rushed and certain story ideas not being developed enough, and how your choices didn’t really matter. Season 2 I think improved on all of that, especially in how it felt like your decisions had a bigger impact.

@fjotolffjolle2236

6 ай бұрын

The Penguin doesn’t even look like the Penguin!

@lachlanclement7270

6 ай бұрын

@@fjotolffjolle2236I think you’re missing the point of this game. This story is a unique and different take on the Batman lore such as how you can have a Harvey Dent who does not become scarred as an example so of course there would be other changes

@MistahJay7

5 ай бұрын

@@fjotolffjolle2236 That's literally the point lol also this is technically the Penguins son. The real penguin has a statue in his park which looks like classic Penguin.

@fjotolffjolle2236

5 ай бұрын

@@MistahJay7 It’s fine to try new ideas, but I think they cross the line when they mess with the design and core traits of the characters. The Penguin is supposed to be fat and short with a beak nose and eccentric clothes, not an ordinary looking dude. They did the same in Gotham and it doesn’t look anything like the character. Batman villains have arguably the best character designs out of any rogues gallery, and I think it’s a shame when they mess with it. But that’s just my opinion

@MistahJay7

5 ай бұрын

@@fjotolffjolle2236 🤓

My biggest hangup with season 1 is that Penguin should hsve been Black Mask. I mean they littlerally just turned him into discount Roman Sionis (at least the pre-No Man's Land version of the character, which is a version i sorely miss).

@user-dl8zc7cr8y

3 ай бұрын

Black Mask and Telltale Penguin are completely different people with completely different backstories and goals. The only thing they share in common is being aggressive and Batman being a pain in the ass.

God I loved these games so much, I was devastated when tell tale went under

@franciparente

7 ай бұрын

Me too😢

@Hellzapopp1n

5 ай бұрын

It’s coming back tho

@Sky-Daddy

4 ай бұрын

​@@Hellzapopp1nhopefully their games do too, spent too long looking at borderlands and mcsm being unavailable

@Black_Knight_-BK-

4 ай бұрын

​@@Hellzapopp1nwdym?

At the time it was very refreshing to see the complicated relationship between Bruce and Alfred after coming from franchises that although touched these matters (like Arkham and the Nolan movies) I always thought they never went deep enough as this game did. Bruce's relationship with his family is superbly done with all the suspicion he ends up having to his father after the deals with Falcone. Having Alfred be the guardian protecting him from bad memories (trying to keep the legacy clean) is also really well done and very real... Matt Reeves undoubtely has seen this story.

You should definitely do S2. I loved it so much, easily one of my favorite things to replay.

In season 2, the way they handled the Joker was so interesting

This video was great and actually the first one of yours I have ever seen. It is so interesting to hear someone playing the game for a second time to say what they think of it now. I would love to see a video about season 2 as I think, despite having its fair share of issues, it is a lot more engaging, interesting and artistically pleasing than season 1 not to mention the relationship between Bruce and John is just TOO interesting not to talk about and I would love to hear your thought on it.

I love the humanity of Bruce Wayne so much. Honestly it’s my favorite version of him

What if you wrote Batman Telltale season 3?! I also feel like you should write a Batman Arkham Knight sequel that takes some aspects from the Telltale Batman games like Lady Arkham and The Children Of Arkham as villains and introducing Tiffany Fox as the new Batgirl. That's just my opinion

@Zeldic364

6 ай бұрын

There shouldn’t be an Arkham sequel, especially one that just copies aspects from the telltale series. Pretty bad opinion lol

@kovalfetterer2218

6 ай бұрын

@@Zeldic364 there should be a sequel to Game Den’s Arkham Knight, not Rocksteady’s Arkham Knight.

@bananatiergod

6 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that no one mentioned the possibility of her becoming Batwing, considering that her brother took the mantle in the comics

@TheBombasticFatRat

6 ай бұрын

​@@Zeldic364 i mean, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is the direct sequal to the Arkham games

@karl5599

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately ​@@TheBombasticFatRat

Fantastic video! Hoping for a Season 2 one next 💯

I’m a slightly newer sub and this is the first time I caught a video this early, just wanted to say that you make good content and to keep it man!

I've personally always had a distaste for how they presented Lady Arkham. I think the thing that bothers me about the character so much is that, unlike a character like the Arkham Knight in DC Comics, there's no "plausible deniability" for the villain. For the Arkham Knight, she becomes who she does because she wrongfully believes for her entire life that Batman killed her mother during a riot at Arkham when she was born. For Lady Arkham, she becomes who she does because she was put in an abusive foster family after Thomas had her parents killed, and then spends her entire life trying to get back at his orphaned son for the sins of the father. I know we all might joke that one Batman villain or another wouldn't exist if that character just went to therapy, but Lady Arkham seems like she genuinely only became a villain *because* of her not going to therapy & working through these issues.

@Wveth

4 ай бұрын

Why is that bad? I haven't played the game, so I don't really have a dog in this race, I'm just really curious why you think that last part is negative.

@rookiedrifter4273

4 ай бұрын

@@Wveth There's a few reasons, but the biggest is that it makes her "purpose" as a villain, I guess, just confusing. People like Joker, Two-Face, Ivy, etc., their origin stories make it so that they can't really ever fully heal due to certain circumstances; they couldn't afford the help they needed, who can really treat a case as unique or severe as theirs, so on & so forth. It's that level of almost... dehumanization, I guess, where you recognize that the person they were before is now lost & all that there is now is whatever took their place. Vicki doesn't have any "excuse" for separation like that. Batman's own personal hand in many of his villains' origins also doesn't play a factor w/ her, because she seemingly made the persona when she was around the same age Bruce was when his parents were murdered, & given that they're pretty close in age, probably not too long after the Waynes were killed. She was a pretty well-connected reporter, & a pretty popular one. She wasn't some weird shut-in, she wasn't ludicrously disfigured, & she likely hadn't started a criminal empire early on. While what happened to her was certainly awful, it's unfortunately not unique even in the slightest. To top it all off, the person who actually wronged her, Thomas, had assumed room temperature in a pretty brutal manner long ago. She had every resource & reason to go get the help she needed especially after she grew up, plenty of other people had probably done so already, so why didn't she? Why did she let the "Lady Arkham" side of her fester once she became a seemingly well-adjusted adult w/ a successful career? All we're really left to wonder is if she's just flat-out insane & cannot accept being wrong so she makes up her own reality so she indeed can't be helped, or if she just refused to seek help & simply wanted to hurt people & used her whole "vengeance" shit as a flimsy justification to help her sleep at night & not realize how messed up she was.

@thephoenixxm4160

4 ай бұрын

Are there 2 Arkham Knights that I don't know about? When I see Arkham Knight I think of the final Arkham game where Arkham Knight was Jason Todd.

@rookiedrifter4273

4 ай бұрын

@@thephoenixxm4160 Yeah. Couple years back, DC brought the game character over from the comics but gave them a totally different identity. Instead of Jason Todd, it was Astrid Arkham. Almost like if Rocksteady were serious & ACTUALLY made a new character. They played a lot more into the namesake of the character, with her leading Arkham inmates as a militia wearing chainmail & wielding swords & bows w/ flaming arrows. Astrid herself even had a shield in the symbol of the Arkham A. It was kinda cool.

@thephoenixxm4160

4 ай бұрын

@@rookiedrifter4273 Sounds cool. Kinda like a Joan of Arc. That sounds better than the Arkham Knight we got.

5:02 yeah, although I normally don’t mind the story making sure some events happen, that that moment felt like it really took away control from the player. I mean, Batman is a master ninja. Even with his injuries, I’m pretty sure he would be able to at least walk backwards so that Harvey doesn’t see you for at least a little bit longer. You could straight up stay hidden by making specific choices (such as staying hidden, and giving Selena a signal to stealth-fully pass him A shirt and pants so he can slip out the bedroom window) until Harvey leaves meaning that your relationship with Mr. Dent will be more positive as Bruce Wayne dependent on your choices but you would have to think on the spot and take the correct series of actions to avoid Harvey discovering you. Now that would’ve been interesting. (Plus, if that means if you decide to take the moral high ground and not sleep with Harvey’s girlfriend, you can also leave the situation without being wrongfully accused.) And if they still want there to be a fight, how about if you stay hidden for long enough you can slip on your Batman costume as Harvey’s second personality begins to get a bit physical with Selena. I’m just spit bawling ideas, here, and all of that would give you a choice as a player, but it would be up to you to make the correct calls, so it means they’ll be more replay value

Great video

Telltale games I will pay top dollar for Batman season 3 if you want money lets make it happen.

I love the involvement with Bruce Wayne. Both Bruce and Batman had an impact on the story

Telltale’s and Arkham Origin’s batsuits are my favorite.

Great video keep it up man

I will say that even though telltale is infamous for giving you choices that don’t matter it actually makes sense with the creation of two face because two face isn’t just some burn on Harvey’s face but is a mental illness he’s always had, and the burn is just a visualization of that

I like the models and textures

Very cool video pls do one for S.2

I like how in Telltale, it's way focus on Bruce Wayne more than on Batman. We see how Bruce Wayne would act without being Batman and how it conflicts him. We don't always choose him for being Batman, we see Bruce act like a regular human being.

This game has some of the best versions of Joker, Two face, Penguin, Harley, Catwoman and Gordon and its definitely Troy bakers best batman performance

Awesome video just subscribed

Well I like how Joker is introduced and the Penguin having a personal connection to Bruce Wayne, for season 2 I like how Riddler and Bane that’s he have in the Dark knight rises The rest raises more questions

I remember I helped Harvey not because I wanted to prevent him from "becoming two-face" (it's a telltale game during their rough period so I was expecting it to happen anyway) but more because I considered it a very lame and sudden way for him to get scarred.

Please do a season 2 video!

Season 2 has a few character contradictions so a vid on that would be cool as a comparison to how the characters are depicted in Season 1

I really love Penguin in this game. Being the revolutionist who wants to reveal Gotham's corruption and profit from it by taking over wayne enterprises is a quite interesting goal for him. And it's nice to see him with Bruce, how he acts around him because most of the time we saw him only with Batman. And he's got the best outfit in this, a distinguished suit combined with that mask looks great, and how they adapted the monocle by making a special device to control the drones is pretty neat.

I would like that [Season Two video].

He’s so different yet so good and it’s a Fresh new start on having a resin to fight as Batman.

Even though it has flaws , I still like the telltale games . And can’t help but think they be great if they were part of the Arkham universe, set between origins and asylum

@Glenn_Quagmire

6 ай бұрын

It wouldn't work because of telltales unique take on the joker being too different. And the player choice of choosing how joker ends up would be lost since he would become a super villain in asylum

For me, the fun of this interpretation is the opportunity to properly explore both sides of Batman’s identity, to see Bruce Wayne's side of the coin actually challenged in a way that Batman cannot just fix so easily. I loved the twist that Thomas Wayne was a gangster and that this is the source of all your woes. I do have disappointments over how some of the villains get portrayed. I was initially delighted to see Penguin have a personal connection to Wayne, and initially show some sort of affection for his old chum, but then they didn’t do anything with it, and quickly forgot it was even a thing. Overall it was still a pretty fun time and they definitely stepped up a gear for the sequel.

@user-dl8zc7cr8y

3 ай бұрын

didn't Penguin still try to manipulate Bruce in order to backstab him and take his company he felt he desvered even his ending you can challenge him as Bruce in the park you used to play as kids

Telltale batman is amazing. The world is so great, and have possibly made my favourite version of joker. Him becoming a villain is so tragic bec8it feels so avoidable

I personally liked Batman telltale it was really fun in my opinion.

I love batman tettale season one and season 2 I want a 3rd season in the future

Game den. Please. I am subscribing right now. I would love to see another Batman telltale analysis video like this one.

Aside from comic Batman ofc, imo telltale’s and rocksteady’s are perfect Batman adaptations

After they patched the game to add the Black And White mode, a whole slew of graphical glitches were added to the original version. It's an absolute shame, but the result is that to get the most polished experience on console, you have to play in Black and White for Season 1. (The original game was glitchy too, but not to this extent.)

Whats good about telltale Batman? He’s alive and didn’t die in the stupidest way possible

you should 100% do S2

Please cover Season 2: it is by and far my favorite product of Telltale 🤩

Season 1 is good. Not great but a good telltale game that was made at the time. Season 2 however is fantastic. Some small things I wish we were able to do (like who's do you bond with? Bane Harley, Mr Freaze) but the idea of them actually trying 2 different versions of Episode 5 is what sets it as fantastic.

Even though i'm more of a Batman fan, i enjoyed Wolf Among Us way more without having any knowledge of the comics.

Weird I never experienced any glitches on the Nintendo Switch port

Bruce and John bromance.

I gotta see S2 bro

The reason Harvey was in cahoots with Falcone is probably a deal with the devil in a way, a desperate measure to pile enough votes to get rid of Hill. He's not happy about it and Falcone keeps treating him like a doormat, but he still sees it as a necessary evil in order to do more good later on, foreshadowing the dark path he'll take to reach his goals.

If you write an Arkham Origins 3, Wrath and Scorn could be really cool characters

Telltale Batman is one of my favorites actually! In this one Batman/Bruce Wayne was likable and more balanced in persona too depending on what we choose. Also in season 2 Harley was the one in charge and John/Joker was the pathetic lackey and that was very amusing to see. I hope we finally get a season 3 very soon!

I hope other Batman devs learn from Telltale's take on Batman. It was really creative, despite its lack of success. Hopefully it gets explored further. Wayne corruption and Bruce in Arkham was great.

@assassin8636

4 ай бұрын

Lack of success? Wasn't everyone playing this game?

@pagetvido1850

4 ай бұрын

@@assassin8636 Nope it was a financial flop. I think a fair few people were talking about it, but they were using it as an example of why they didn't like Telltale. Either that or youtube just assumed you'd like it, but didn't show it to the rest of the world.

Would love to see you cover Season 2

Ape Escape music, nice

Season 2, please!

I speak for everyone when I say we would kindly appreciate part 2

I went back to play these recently and man this game is glitchy. There were times when I wondered if things in the background were in shadows or just not rendering. Characters body parts are missing and the character speaking is almost never in focus. I’ll always have a place in my heart for TellTale tho. Wondering if anyone else had these issues

would absolutely love a John Doe break+season 2 breakdown

Season 1 was OK but i always hated how they made Vicki Vale as a clear obvious and blatant Scarecrow ripoff.

Wow. this assessment is really really good.

First episode was definitely my favourite

i loved these games man

The nintendo port seemed to eliminate a ton of the glitches

I love that he had to emphasize how Sexy Penguin and Shaven epic Alfred looks but Other than this the Telltale series actually kinda Cool but Catwoman from Telltale *Romantically Growls* but other than that I actually think this is interesting

I love the Telltale Batman games. I’ve actually never encountered any bugs on any of the telltale games that I’ve played over the years that they’ve been out (which spans way over a decade and some change) I love the heavy thematic elements of their games, focusing more on storytelling rather than gameplay. Kind of like playing into the story is just an added bonus to the stories they’re trying to tell. I wonder what’s going to be the next telltale project we’re gonna experience 🧐 🤨

Go I wish there was a season 3

Please do a season 2 video

Wow... who would have thought a telltale game is full of bugs. Is a playable movie. And retells storys from comics when making a comic book game...

I played this for the first time in 2022 shortly before the release of the Batman. And wow, as someone who loved telltales twd season one this game was a big disappointment. It didn’t really help that I remember knowing a guy who was OBSESSED with this game when it came out and him being really annoying about it, so at some point I was just playing it to make fun of it. It certainly picks up after the 3rd episode but it still wasn’t enough. season two kind of saved the whole series, I only really play season one to add context to a season two play through.

@Glenn_Quagmire

6 ай бұрын

Yeah season 2 is so good it's unreal. S1 EP2 could be a whole movie with how well paced it is. Edit: I meant S2 EP1

Nice, I like the undertones of the LA Noire soundtrack 😉👍🏼

I feel like villains had potential (that you mentioned as their actual characters in the story), but it failed to deliver on them.

I just like these games, they are not perfect but I just like replaying them.

The first season so buggy, most of the episodes audio just cut out. Honestly thought Falcones big grunt was a deaf mute, until ibrelized he's supposed to be saying words.

4:59 this is an inherent bug in all Telltale games. The freedom of choice is an illusion. The story will always going a certain direction regardless of what you do. This is why repeat playthrough have diminishing returns. The more you play them the more you spot the hand of the author and the more the illusion of choice breaks. It’s almost a feature, rather than a bug, and this game is far from unique in this problem.

Bro, Batman Begins took the Joker foreshadowing thing from Batman Year One.

The best part about Telltale Batman is that they put a lot of focus on Bruce and Alfred's relationship. Something which each and every single Batman film has ignored or not done properly.

There was a s2 as well

Actually that lady arkham was vicki it was easy. She was a not cared character for the lore and she was suspicious. When i saw the children of arkham i thought of first sight that it was vicki

please do the sequel

I always felt limited by the format of Telltale. I grew reading alot of choose your own adventure books. So going into a game that sells itself as a choose your own adventure I'm expecting like 30 endings and for the game to be completely different every playthrough. Telltale games feel like you choose your own edit of a movie. It's subtle. And I'm sure for some people that's the exact draw. But I don't enjoy the subtlety. I'm well aware that I'm asking too much from these games. I think they were just introduced to me in a way that set my expectations too high. They're phenomenal games, just not the phenomenal game I thought I was getting.

I love everything about this game

Yes. Do a review of the later seasons. EDIT: Perhaps kzread.info/head/PLkMELlwljMIf508dngeE-Whul2eg2gjnQ will improve your view on Telltale Batman.

John Doe killed it in season 2

We want season 2

Yeah i remember playing it on release and really didnt get the big deal

What if you wrote Batman Telltale Season 3?

the thing that i hate about this game is what they did to Thomas and Martha i will forever hate them as criminals and not being great people that only wanted to help Gotham.

"Harvey Dent represents the other side of the coin." heh nice, dude

The arkham arc was NOICE

Do the season 2 video pls

Luara Bailey, as Selina Kyle, will always be perfect, honestly.

what is ur background music ?

The illusion of choice?

You should write a batman season 3 please