Go to buyraycon.com/saberspark for 20% off your order, plus free shipping! Brought to you by Raycon! But what do you all think of Twelve Forever? Did you like the show? Do you think it was fair what happened to it?

@Parasite_Mushroom

2 ай бұрын

I loved this so much the buttwhich was my favourite charcter

@BluffsCastle

2 ай бұрын

I liked the show, but it went through so much bad luck

@kieranstark7213

2 ай бұрын

Next, do “What RUINED Schneider’s Bakery (HOW A PEDOPHILE RUINED HIS OWN SHOWS… AND THE LIVES OF TEENAGERS… ESPECIALLY ALEXIA AND JENNETTE)

@Kooliiii

2 ай бұрын

H I. I can’t afford Raycon : , )

@bloodyidk

2 ай бұрын

Hide way hide way form me

"If I had a nickel every time a creator of kids' content turned out to be a creep, I'd have a lot of nickles. Which shouldn't be the case, and should happen a lot less."

@daniapfel2825

2 ай бұрын

Me i know 5 creeps so for me i’d 5 nickels Precision: Julia Vickerman Chris Savino Skyler Page John Krifaulski Dan Schneider PS: I think Chris and Skyler are redeemed themselves but that not delete their awful actions and i understand the persons which they hurted them don’t want forgive them

@user-IloveFood33

2 ай бұрын

Bro you'd be RICH 💀💀

@numbersstationsarchive194

2 ай бұрын

Nickel*

@mollusckscramp4124

2 ай бұрын

Aww.. this reference usually makes me laugh but made me sad this time 😔

@Olflix

2 ай бұрын

"should happen a lot less" my brother in Christ it shouldn't even happen at all

Writing a 2 page self report about you stalking a child is not a joke.

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

it's not stalking, girls follow hot guys around all the time

@nexus-sentinel252

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064 But a 24 years old woman stalking underage kids? Wtf bro

@yassinefarah2423

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064say that again when you get stalked by someone much older than you.

@ThePigKnight

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064 H U H

@LonelyGamer4

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064If you’re gonna be a troll, at least be a funny one

14:20 A show that did this trope well was, believe it or not, “Ed, edd n eddy”. We don’t need to be TOLD that double dees parents are busy because it’s demonstrated by the use of simple sticky notes. Even in a show where the parents never appear, we still feel the absence. The other characters mention that they’ve been grounded or that their parents are out for the night. Edd just does endless, overly complicated tasks listed on sticky notes, only receives affection through writing, and seems to parent himself.

@KittyxKult

Ай бұрын

Also explains fully why double d is the “brainiac” of the group (for a group that does really dumb stuff all the time). He has been forced to “grow up” faster than his peers and submit to viewing his worth through the lens of productivity and scholarship. He has been left alone to entertain himself with learning, as he seeks acknowledgement from parental figures who arent present, however because he is left without adult guidance most of the time, he uses his brains to get himself and the group into trouble.

@Yamshands

Ай бұрын

IKR! Love EENE, btw! Honestly, as a huge cartoon-fanatic, examples of other cartoons doing these tropes in 12Forever better were just PILING up in my head as I watched this video. Like, I swear if anyone on the creative team watched As Told by Ginger I think the writing would’ve improved tenfold lmao. Not saying that show didn’t have flaws, but it definitely at least KNEW what it wanted to do and the puberty-speak was actually pretty good. Not to mention that the main family (coincidentally also a mother, daughter, and son) actually match up to the personalities of Reggie’s family amazingly. Just, you know…a million times better haha

@TheChocolateCheetox

20 күн бұрын

Isn't there some evidence that DD's parents aren't even real and he writes the notes himself while zonked from carbon monoxide poisoning?

@Lovinia1

20 күн бұрын

@@TheChocolateCheetox that’s a very dark theory that some edgelord made up. There’s no evidence in the show without massively stretching.

@KittyxKult

20 күн бұрын

@@TheChocolateCheetox that sounds scientifically impossible. If he was repeatedly getting carbon monoxide poisoning every single day, it would build up in his blood and cause very serious problems, even death. As goofy as he is, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with him neurologically, I think he’s just an unsupervised kid who lets his friends get him into trouble.

I still cant get over a netflix production company being named "The Cartel"

@janaiyarowzee9800

2 ай бұрын

Netflix and chill…………🤢

@WWNbroadcasts

Ай бұрын

“Say you don’t like big mouth again we will make you bite the curb” typa production company

@shadowwolf9823

Ай бұрын

​@@WWNbroadcastsNetflix on their way to do unspeakable things to people who dislikes Big Mouth

@axelcordova8262

Ай бұрын

That's like opening up an Italian restaurant and naming 'Cosa Nostra'.

@dimwarlock

29 күн бұрын

Cartel and Cártel are different words in spanish, the former means "poster" or "sign" while the latter means exactly what you're thinking. This is just so you think about what probably happened, because cultural and social are very important when choosing names.

Sexual harassment done by women usually isn't taken seriously, so the fact that this even got to court means it must've been bad.

@na-ky8ou

2 ай бұрын

A male friend of mine was a victim of sexual harassment by his female coworker. This idiot liked it, and tried to date her; I told him that it was a bad idea from the start, and countless times, but he didn't listen. Guess what happened? She accused him of touching her inappropriately.

@ookipuki

2 ай бұрын

​@@na-ky8ou let's say they were both touching eachother etc.. let's say he even did it first! 🤷🏼‍♀️ DOESNT MATTER..... YOU'RE AT WORK........ and? The age matters too!!!! 😡( mental state too lol)

@tatiana4050

2 ай бұрын

​​@@ookipuki power dynamic matters too., those in power at work hold whole livelihoods of those they supervise in their hands.

@NINacide

2 ай бұрын

Hermesmann v. Seyer, Kansas. 1993. Facts of the case; An adult woman, employed as a babysitter, had sex with and became pregnant by the 12 year old boy she was babysitting. Judge's decision: A 12 year old boy may consent to sex, it was not SA, the woman will not serve any time in prison, and the boy owes the woman child support.

@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOq

2 ай бұрын

@@NINacide I would not even surprised. Still don’t understand the logic and injustice.

“I made dumb jokes a decade ago” bro you followed a teen around the carnival and wrote about his body that’s not a joke 😭

@DebbieDickens

2 ай бұрын

The fact that she brushed off stalker/predator behavior as 'dumb jokes' is concerning and tells me she hasn't really matured as much as she claims, I hope to god she seeks help/has been seeking help.

@carolyns4519

2 ай бұрын

​@@thehacker4012At standup shows, theres kind of an expectation that even the true stories a comedian tells are exaggerated for comedy. She wasn't telling jokes to an audience, she posted to her personal blog (a place where the expectation is that these stories are true, since a blog is basically an electronic diary) about stalking a kid and wanting to take pictures of him, things that do happen in real life. She saw nothing wrong with letting people know that this is what she does when she's not cartooning.

@XxFloofyxX

2 ай бұрын

Like bruh stalking a minor isnt a joke its a mental illness please go awayyyyy

@Plsrateeight

2 ай бұрын

​@@Remyattayeah that's bull crap I think you let this little soy enter your stupid mind

@thehacker4012

2 ай бұрын

@@Remyatta Nobody likes stand-up comedians? That is your argument?

Ngl I relate to the mother forcing her child to be feminine thing. When I was a kid I was a tomboy that wore minecraft shirts, my mom yelled at me for not wearing booty shorts and tank tops. I just didn't like showing my skin cause I knew the world was full of creeps and I was like 13. As I got older I dressed more feminine but in pastel dresses and pink outfits that get me mistake for strawberry short cake. My mom still wasn't happy and even said to my alt goth friend "I wish you were my daughter instead" as a "joke." today I am now comfortable with wearing more mature feminine clothing but I wish I was given the time I needed instead of being rejected by everyone. Luckily I was a rebel so I gave myself that time

@Cobra-yo7fx

Ай бұрын

Do not talk to your mom forever.

@pensandshakers

Ай бұрын

...She had a problem with you being a tomboy and liked your goth friend? That's really weird. Honestly, that whole thing sounds weird. Your mom wants you to sexualize yourself? That's weird. Wear all the minecraft shirts you want.

@Darkclowd

27 күн бұрын

​@@Cobra-yo7fx well I don't know if they need to go THAT far, but the mom was certainly in the wrong. They wouldn't have had/needed a rebellious phase if they had just been able to learn how they wanted to express themselves over time.

@rickydiscord7671

26 күн бұрын

"be a sex simple. not a girl that has commonsense with her body." what type of logic does your mom think that is for girls? you have a right to stand your ground in a young age. and I'm fine with girls and women dress up whatever they want. but showing off alot of skin in a young age and even freaking 5 year old girls. really does make you think there's something wrong with a parent that's letting minors running around showing 60% or more of there skins. like that one "mother" making "sexy model" photos of her small minor girl and really thinks there wont be any pedos or creeps in the comments of her sexy child. >.> and she's still doing it to this day.

@tpfoxCastro

20 күн бұрын

Clothes to short? Get fucked. Clothes to long? Get fucked. To feminine? Get fucked. To masculine? Get fucked. Guess my only option is become a biblically accurate angel!

Harassing storyboarders and stalking a minor around a fair are not "jokes." Those are literal crimes!!

"I'm a different person now" *she proceeds to sexually harass people working on her show* 🤦‍♂

@ellugerdelacruz2555

2 ай бұрын

A pedo in charge of a woke @$$ show? Gee, what a surprise!!!

@Optimegatrongodzilla

2 ай бұрын

@louisewedlander9083 To be fair, those are just accusations with no proof behind them. She very well could be innocent.

@istolejahresshipandilldoit3499

2 ай бұрын

She’s totally a different person now… in a bad way

@tyrant-den884

2 ай бұрын

"I'm a different person now, now I have power."

@CanyonCoyote

2 ай бұрын

@@Optimegatrongodzilla Well, whether or not she actually sexually harassed her employees, she'll never redeem herself from her hebephilia

12 forever is how the creator prefers her men

@spencerpetunia8268

2 ай бұрын

"men"

@stanleysaturn982

2 ай бұрын

​@@spencerpetunia8268boys

@stanleysaturn982

2 ай бұрын

Fetuses

@YurinanAcquiline

2 ай бұрын

😮😮😮

@iskatetwo

2 ай бұрын

"men" is crazy

How is someone going to write a whole tumblr post about a 14 year olds body stating multiple times that they wouldn't do anything BECAUSE THE MOMS AROUND and insinuating that if she wasn't she'd do something and then try and convince people she's not a predator

@dragonfire5568

23 күн бұрын

You see, it’s ok when women do it cause women are special.

@Selvestor746

Күн бұрын

I wouldn't think much of it, as long as you don't share pictures and hashtagging your actions online, it's not like she's a kidnapper just a creep.

Stalking and taking pictures of a 14 year old boy is NOT a joke 🤢

@rikkusruckus

29 күн бұрын

exactly! and i saw someone in the comments trying to DEFEND her by saying "it's just like how girls follow their crushes around" it was literally a 14 year old boy and she was 25. yuck.

@AAcetoneslaysz

25 күн бұрын

@@rikkusruckusreal

@MachinaOwl

17 күн бұрын

@@rikkusruckus Tbh this reflects poorly on the person justifying it even if everyone involved was of age lol. I hate when people think teenagers can't do disgusting things because it's absolute bullcrap. There are a bunch of red-flags walking around schools, and people justify it with "well they'll just grow out of it!".

I'm gonna be honest, the "mom who pressures her teenage daughter to grow up fast but lets her teen boy do whatever without reprimand or consequences" is something that happens really often, it's not something unrealistic that is being depicted

@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme

2 ай бұрын

And Misogyny

@antikommunistischaktion

2 ай бұрын

@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme MUH SOGGYKNEES.

@CalvaryProductions1

2 ай бұрын

@@elle9602I think of it as like a grass is greener thing. Men and women have their hardships, but I do t think you should believe that all women are oppressed. That’s called victim mentality, and that can ruin things

@antikommunistischaktion

2 ай бұрын

@@elle9602 Because society actually cares about you, that's not so much for the boys.

@apenguininthemist855

2 ай бұрын

@@elle9602 You know, I wish someone would have told my dad that it was only girls who had heavy/unrealistic expectations put on them. Maybe then I would have been beaten and psychologically abused less as a child.

The one positive to the show being cancelled? The fan favorite character was Butt Witch, The villain, the one who wanted her adventures to end.. So by the show being cancelled, we can just assume she WON and sealed off the world and is partying up a storm.

@odacova3319

2 ай бұрын

Now I want to see the grown up wonderland she was talking about 😏

@Saltboi1823

2 ай бұрын

​@@odacova3319Butts, boobs, beer, and more.

@sidvacant9382

2 ай бұрын

​@@odacova3319When you put the kids to sleep

@user-ux7sq2ft2t

2 ай бұрын

Was it just me who thought the Butt Witch was kinda hot? (God my bi senses are tingling.....)

@user-ux7sq2ft2t

2 ай бұрын

(I'm going down to the Hazbin Hotel now after that)

i’m so, so glad that boy from her post had his mom around. i don’t doubt that if he had been alone, she’d try to groom him. what a creep.

…. And THIS is why I’m more of a Phineas and Ferb person. Dan and Swampy haven’t done anything weird or wrong like this. They’re genuinely nice and cool guys, and I’d love to meet them someday.

@sweetsour4375

2 ай бұрын

They do seem genuinely nice and cool, but there are still some things to critique about Phineas and Ferb, mainly racial/ethnic stereotypes.

@mememan1546

2 ай бұрын

​@@sweetsour4375 thats a fair point, but id much rather watch a show made by someone a little racist than a show made by someone that actively preys on teenage boys.

@juannaym8488

2 ай бұрын

@@sweetsour4375 aw come on Like yeah they use some stereotypes but it's very worst somewhat ignorant. It's not their fault that Indians are the most insecure group of people on Earth, that are upset no matter how they're portrayed, and I say that as someone of Indian descent myself

@theautismrizzler

Ай бұрын

@@sweetsour4375I’m not defending them but it was also quite common for cartoons to have racist undertones of some description. It sucks, absolutely and I do believe that they have moved away from them in recent years.

@dylansharp8471

Ай бұрын

@@sweetsour4375 Stereotypes?

I bet the executives at Cartoon Network looked at everything that went down with Julia Vickerman and thought “Man, we really dodged a bullet rejecting that show, didn’t we?”

@AliasEliahus

2 ай бұрын

I mean they hired a known smut artist that made parodies of cn shows to do art for ok ko. I feel they know full well who they're hiring

@kage6613

2 ай бұрын

@@AliasEliahus thought you were gonna say Steven Universe then with the OK KO misdirect nice

@AliasEliahus

2 ай бұрын

@@kage6613 lol I actually forgot about that but yeah. I think these network execs could care less what skeletons are in your closet as long as you're quiet about it and make them a profit.

@TheThing4444

2 ай бұрын

The production of Calarence happened.

@queenzoroark

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheThing4444Its creator got axed quickly

What is it with people that make animated shows and sexual misconduct allegations?? Why can’t they just keep their hands to themselves?

@valenciageode25

2 ай бұрын

They do create little people they control.

@daskampffredchen9242

2 ай бұрын

The Target audience. That is also why so many pervs go into teaching

@slimebunny5700

2 ай бұрын

Especially shows for kids or young audiences. I don't like this pattern but it makes sense to appeal to the audience you want to take advantage of.

@Cantimule

2 ай бұрын

It happens in every industry. You just hear about it more from the media industries because of the famous names and brands associated with them. Also, I suspect it's further exacerbated by the amount of control creators are given so as not to stifle their creative visions (in relation to non-media companies where usually far more stringent rules, regulations and processes are in place). Just a guess, though. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@Mereologist

2 ай бұрын

People who want to touch children naturally are drawn to industries where they will have access to children. Teachers, Disneyland, daycares, animators for childrens' shows. OF COURSE that's where they want to be.

Yep mum picking on daughter and letting son do whatever is true. My own mother did it to me, and when it came to my younger brother she definitely favoured him. We would take turns doing the washing up, but when it was his turn he never did it there were even times when my mum would drag me out of bed or threaten me with consequences if I didn’t do the washing up because my brother has gone to bed.

@scarletweb2106

Ай бұрын

I'm sorry 😢

@ChaoticQueerSnail

Ай бұрын

I get that so much, im the oldest and afab and had the exact same situation

@YoaiHime_xy

22 күн бұрын

That is a real bad mother right there😭

"Allegations" didn't she outright admit to it?

honestly the whole 'doesnt punish one kid but the other' is actually pretty realistic, its called a golden child scapegoat dynamic. Also jude telling her daughter to be more feminine might be projection on her part.

@aliceros1

2 ай бұрын

I thought the family dynamic was so real as Iv'e seen this exact thing happen in real like. The daughters are the ones that needs to grow up but the brother gets to do things his way with little expectations. Except that the parents never did change in real life, but at least in the cartoon there would have been potential for growth and understanding from mom and daughter.

@sketchyjulia

2 ай бұрын

Wonder if like Judy kinda just “gave up” on Dustin so she just ignores when he’s being an ass and leaves him alone while she’s focuses on Reggie and making her behave better

@VilliageSquidiot

2 ай бұрын

​@@sketchyjuliamaybe but I think that's bad on the mom as well. You don't just stop caring about your kid like that. Their brains are soup, on some level, even the teenagers don't know any better. But I also don't think the mom gave up on her son. I think it's a double standard thing. Why do I know? Grew up as a girl. Mothers and grandmother's are really harsh about the feminine things because they grew up in worlds where they had to be or they had no worth. Did you know women couldn't open their own bank accounts or have credit until the 70's/80's. I'm not saying what they're doing is right or okay. I think it's generational trauma of being made to be worth less the less feminine you are.

@VilliageSquidiot

2 ай бұрын

​@@sketchyjuliaI might also be speaking out of my ass, it IS 2am(except for the bank account and credit thing, that is very real)

@gabrielelder7301

2 ай бұрын

​@@VilliageSquidiotyour right if a woman didn't have their father or husband co-sign on the account they couldn't open one but some states allowed it earlier like Washington State where that law was gotten rid of in the 50's or 60's because of population decline from WWII and the Korean war.

Saying the predatory behavior towards children didn't age well would imply it was ever an appropriate thing to do. I don't think it would've aged well at any time.

@Vesperad0

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully never, but some people in these comments that have never been here before are coming out the woodworks defending creep ass behavior.

@AntediluvianRomance

2 ай бұрын

Maybe some hundreds years ago, when "teenager" was not a thing.

@Ash_NuggTato

2 ай бұрын

I think some of us just don't care, like me, we don't care what someone does that we dont know, we don't care, and sometimes its funny, i mean one of my characters is in college but he still flirts with the highschoolers

@ianmitchell5979

2 ай бұрын

@@Ash_NuggTato You just added yourself to the list of people who concern me. (And the people who like that comment. You concern me too.)

@StrawberryCocoaPowder

2 ай бұрын

@@Ash_NuggTatoThat’s literally predatory but ok

As a 14 year old, I think people nowadays are getting too comfortable with expressing who they are. They may say love has no boundaries but that's just wrong. I does, such as age and species. The situation with the 14 year old boy is just gross and i hope he's ok mentally.

@Tatianasmith-fg5km

2 ай бұрын

14 is a young teen like 12 and 13

@mallarieluvsgirls

2 ай бұрын

no lol. they’re just pedophiles being too comfortable. which is a society thing. in our society, children are insanely sexualized.

@user-lp2bp4mw1y

2 ай бұрын

Yeah… some things are okay to express, an attraction to children and or animals though? No, absolutely not, that’s where extensive therapy is needed, and or prison.

@cherrygleam

Ай бұрын

@@Tatianasmith-fg5km12 isn’t a teen that’s a pre teen 😭

@nicreven

Ай бұрын

@@user-lp2bp4mw1y I think attraction to children and animals is okay to express considering the fact that you can't get therapy for being a pedo if you don't talk about it xD I kid, but seriously. If you have feelings and thoughts like that you should probably open up to someone if not a full blown therapist

Unfortunately, it's pretty common for sexual abusers/harassers to openly claim to support victims of such. I guess they figure it makes allegations against them harder to believe.

WHY 👏🏽 IS 👏🏽 IT 👏🏽 SO 👏🏽 HARD 👏🏽 FOR 👏🏽 INTERNET 👏🏽 CONTENT 👏🏽 CREATORS 👏🏽 TO 👏🏽 NOT 👏🏽 SEXUALIZE 👏🏽 OR 👏🏽 GROOM 👏🏽 CHILDREN!

@Luis_257

2 ай бұрын

Because this is 2024 Edit: wait what the fuck? I got almost 50 likes in an hour!

@ciderodd4278

2 ай бұрын

We just hear about it more, just be careful not to assume all lgbtia creators are doing this. Or anyone who writes about this delicate time in life. Because that's how the Fox News and the JR experiences get their fuel for their hatred fire. Also might be worth considering that 20 something year olds were likely writing out of pocket and cringey stuff as kids themselves online and don't grow out of it. I think this will keep happening. Look at Lemon fics, for interest...yikes, glad I got out of the AoO community when I was a teen. Digital footprints last forever. Ftr, I never heard about this show during this just before the pandemic times, only She-ra.

@matt0044

2 ай бұрын

*shrugs* It’s not that it’s “hard” so much as the internet has enabled some people to indulge in their worse behaviors. Believe that there’s less of a chance of them being exposed due to their target’s age. As to why it’s always some cartoonist? Clout goes to your head fast. Makes you think the rules don’t apply to you.

@Mr.Ject2

2 ай бұрын

Really though 😞

@ktgame2640

2 ай бұрын

​@@matt0044 yea not it

Judy wanting her daughter to be more feminine for no reason is accurate to the mother daughter experience

@indiji

2 ай бұрын

I was gonna say the same! I think some of Saber's criticisms in this same vein are just bc he lacks the experience of being a preteen girl. which is. fair, obviously. but yknow.

@literallyhanii

2 ай бұрын

@@indijiwhen he was like “the mother never reprimanding the brother makes no sense” I sighed sooo loud man

@nbkarkat

2 ай бұрын

i wish he would've thought to talk to like, ONE single woman about his thoughts on the show considering the entire premise was about a young girl growing up and her experiences. kind of fill in information he obviously wouldnt have himself

@CeaselessWatchersSpecialBoy

2 ай бұрын

@@nbkarkatfor sure

@kittyphinex7115

2 ай бұрын

To be honest, it's not for no reason. It's usually the reason that the mother feels like her daughter is growing up and therefore NEEDS to be more feminine because she's just... At that age. And the mom doesn't need to because she already had that in the past, she already had her "feminine" phase, now she can do what she wants because she's already formed her life, etc. Coming from experience, that's the only real reason that can also be considered not a reason because it's selfish but that's the point. Reggie's mom should've been more selfish. Or like more two faced between her two kids but it's always very shallow. Like her motives should be "because that's how I feel my kids should be" and it not make sense but then be called out. But it isn't which messes up the whole thing and makes it more of a stereotype than an actual commentary on these types of parents

26:10 "But what is there to learn? What can we take away from all this?" 🎶 Do not diddle kiiiids It's no good diddling kiiiiids 🎶

I know the whole ‘daughter needs to be feminine and mature but the brother can be immature and not punished accordingly’ isn’t unrealistic. It makes an awful lot of sense actually I relate to Reggie a lot in this family dynamic she has I’ll explain what my relationship with my mum is like (vs her and my brother) since it is probably what the show was going for My mum is old, bigger (not that that’s a bad thing but she’s very insecure of her weight) and she was a tomboy when she was younger. She was rebellious and defied the stereotypes of women when she was my age However, now that she’s older, she regrets this. She wishes she was young and skinny again, she wishes she had that chance to accept her femininity and natural maturity. So as a result, she projects that onto me. Constantly pressuring me to be more feminine and “grow up”. She makes me wear dresses, makeup, jewellery, heels and bugs me about mature topics like s3x (I’m 16) Not saying I hate my mum, I get she’s just insecure but I think Reggie’s mum can relate to mine Also, about the brother: The mum isn’t going to care so much about the brothers actions and behaviour because to put it simply. She’s a woman and he’s a teenage boy. She doesn’t really know what’s expected of a boy coming that age since she’s never experienced it. She knows he shouldn’t pick on his sister but she kinda agrees with what he has to say (when he says “Toys aren’t friends”) She probably has the mindset of “boys will be boys”

Imagine being a fully grown woman following teenagers around carnivals like a 12 year old girl who just saw her crush at the grocery store

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

that's not a bad thing, sure it might be a bit creepy but people follow attractive people around all the time

@mythcat1273

2 ай бұрын

@hibiscux064 yeah but she was doing that to a TEENAGER

@mythcat1273

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064 as a GROWN WOMAN

@TalmoTheSell

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@hibiscux064a grown woman following a 12 year old girl isn’t wrong?

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

@@mythcat1273 his age doesn't matter

the casual silly me way she wrote about harassing the child and stalking him, HOPING his guardian wasn't around made my stomach drop. it's beyond sickening.

@mollusckscramp4124

2 ай бұрын

Dude. I know the word paedophile gets tossed around a lot these days ranging from sending text messages to following tiktok accounts, but this woman was literally THREATENING TO KIDNAP A CHILD! This is the most textbook definition of a predator I have ever seen, and it's horrifying that she actually worked on a kid's show!!

@fordsimpson2792

2 ай бұрын

@@mollusckscramp4124 yeah she also used the word on herself so that's at least worth something. i like to take people at their word when i can

@MY_LEG-

2 ай бұрын

Literally. everything she was absolutely disgusting then she adds “IF ONLY his mom wasn’t there” like what would u have done if she wasn’t…?

@seantaggart7382

Ай бұрын

​​@@mollusckscramp4124 yeah! But it all gets thrown out because WOMAAAAAAANNN!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎆🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎆🎇🎆🎇🎇🎆🎆🥳🥳🎆🥳🎇🥳🎉🥳🥳🥳🎆🎇🎉🎆 Im sickened by it

@indigowendigo8165

29 күн бұрын

WTF? o.O

When I was 12, my friends and I were massive horror fans, but nothing in my head was as creepy as the creatures on Endless

@arcadeassassin7176

20 күн бұрын

As a teenager I got into horror films through the movie Stan Helsing and an online horror host called Dr Wolfula and then after watching all of the iconic slasher movies I saw the film Van Helsing staring Hugh Jackman, watched Mark Gatiss History Of Horror and started binging Cinemassacre's Monster Madness which made me start to seek out classic monster movies.

Creepiest thing about her post is "if only his mom hadn't been there" and how she tried to win his favor giving him free tickets. Typical grooming behavior: isolate the child from his parents or other adults; buy him things and give him gifts to get him to like you and see you as a trusted friend. Please parents protect your sons from creeps like this woman. It's not only girls who need to be protected and not only men who are predators.

I know I should be upset by these stories, but I'm just... so happy that people are actually taking it seriously when an adult woman goes after a minor male. For years, it was seen as "lucky boy, what's the problem?". In fact, very recently, there was a case like this where the boy (15) ended up having to pay his rapist (an adult woman) child support because she got pregnant from the encounter. Like... no, please. The genders of the parties should not matter. Just stick to adults.

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

1) it's not "going after" someone, finding someone attractive isn't inherently predatory. 2) what happened to that person is horrible and absolutely inexcusable but age had nothing to do with it, rape is rape.

@HebiHouse

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064go be creepy somewhere else.

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

@@HebiHouse not harassing someone for being youth attracted isn't creepy it's called not being a bigot

@HarpsiFizz

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064 I do agree with you there. Saying "so-and-so has a nice face" isn't the same as making a move on the person. I was speaking in the sense of *any* coverage of this sorta thing happening. My comment was kinda over-reactish, I admit. But you know how it is these days- if you don't act like a screaming monkey over the slightest thing, you get accused of "defending literal actual rapists". It makes it so a mature discussion on a serious topic os impossible.

@HebiHouse

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064 get attracted to adults.

Her creepy behavior aside, she did one of the biggest mistakes in writing. She mad the main villain more likeable than the main protagonist.

@glasperle77

2 ай бұрын

that's just a matter of view. People are all messed up (but it's never disussed) . people tend to like the super bad sociopathic and often abusive "bad guys" or antagonists and hype them and prefer them above the protag because they often have a more reasonable backstory. It's still messed up

@diktatoralexander88

2 ай бұрын

I dont think it's one of the "Biggest mistakes", because sometimes that may be an intention. The mistake is where you have a protagonist we're *supposed to root for* but the villian is more likable as a person than said protagonist.

@TheRealBlazingDiamond

2 ай бұрын

​@@diktatoralexander88precisely. You can have a super likeable villain, but you have to still want to see the heroes triumph over the villain. Dr. Nefarious works really well like this. He's super hammy and funny, but you still want to see Ratchet and Clank foil his plans of turning all organic life forms, or "squishies", as he calls them, into robots

@SUTAZZZ

2 ай бұрын

LMAO REAL

@Vampire_Bat-

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think it was a mistake. Having a more likeable villain than a protagonist in a show is entirely possible. It doesn’t make people “messed up“ for liking them. Such as Joker, Bill Cipher, Jasper from SU, Slade from Teen Titans etc.

Imagine how creeped out and upset that boy was when he found out about the truth of those tickets he'd got. He would have been about 23 when that stuff began circulating online. If he realized that it was about him, it'd be so horrible and probably ruin what might have once been a nice memory for the now adult man in his 20s. My older brother is the age that guy is. Not 14, but 14 in 2010. I can't even begin to imagine how disgusted he was or will be when discovering that stuff. Like, now that was about half his current lifetime ago, but still. That's so disgusting, and i feel bad for the guy. He probably once thought of getting 2 final tickets as a nice kind gesture a stranger did out of kindness. But if he (or she if they have transitioned in kast 14 years, you never know) realizes what happened and knows they were that boy at the time, that'd ruin what may have once been an amazing memory for them. And obviously it's not just about ruining a memory, that's fucked up no matter what because a 25 year old was looking at a 14 year old in that way at all, and was taking photos without the kid's knowledge. Whether the photos "turned out good" or not, that's still not ok. And she knew that she was being a creep because she literally said as such and used the tag for a P3D0 on said post

She should have uploaded a KZread apology playing a ukulele

"Didn't age well?!" Not aging well implies it was ok at one point.

@scrollquill

2 ай бұрын

That, and it was taboo even at the time she did all that crap. "Didn't age well" doesn't apply here.

@aidentoons

2 ай бұрын

That reminds me of the people defending SSSniperwolf telling kids to twerk because it was “normal for that time” pedophilia isn’t normal ever, it’s disgusting.

@streamerssaymyname

2 ай бұрын

​@@aidentoons tell that to the Republicans trying to keep child bride loopholes legal in half the US states.

@42seven

2 ай бұрын

@@streamerssaymyname that's not about pedophila so much as it's about having a wife you can manipulate

@VilliageSquidiot

2 ай бұрын

​@@streamerssaymynameew. You're right but I didn't need to remember that.

Small nitpick, but I think Saberspark may have missed the part: -Endless isn't Reggie's creation, she just claims it is, -Endless seems to slowly corrupt the minds of people who stay there for long periods of time, -And the fact that some of the inhabitants of Endless may be former people who were trapped forever

@DragonNexus

2 ай бұрын

Wasn't there also the implication Reggies mom used to go there? IIRC

@shacharlem4424

2 ай бұрын

In the pilot it was, in the show, it's not anymore.

@ilovepengins

2 ай бұрын

makes butt witch a hero tbh

@DaltonIzHere

2 ай бұрын

This reminds me of Bugsnax. If you don’t want spoilers for Bugsnax, don’t click ‘Read More’. This reminds me of Bugsnax, mostly because it has this endlessly happy and colourful wonderland, but holds a horrific secret. In Bugsnax, the secret was that the Bugsnax themselves were a parasite on the world, comprising the entire Snaktooth Island. In Twelve Forever, the ‘secret’ is that the minds and sanity of those who go there get corrupted and destroyed. Both are similar. They lure you into the trap with colourful creatures and worlds, and take the chance to hold your head down into the waters of despair and horror, as your mind and body are degraded into either the source of your grief (Bugsnax) or your primal childish desires (Twelve Forever). Damn, I turned into Shakespeare for a second.

@UrMentalHealth

2 ай бұрын

@@DaltonIzHere Maybe that was the point? Villian who represents growing up at first seems evil but then you realize you can't stay a child forever?

She is very creepy when talking about a 14 year old emo boy at 25 years old at the time.

Tbh, I really liked the show. I haven't really noticed any of the things you've pointed out, maybe except for endless being too bright and really uncomfortable to look at. I even liked the protagonist. She sucks! But like... In a genuine kind of way. I remember being her age and I can relate to her a lot. When it comes to the final conflict her inability to change and become better creates a certain feeling of desperation that feels quite intentional. And even after the resolution I was pretty sure she still wanted to stay in the Endless forever and become just like that poor crazy kid. Reggie is really messed up in the way no one can understand. I would have loved to see her getting the help she desperately needs. But, oh well...

The Butt Witch was honestly the best part of the show than the main character herself. The show had something going there until I heard about the thing with the Creator which was wild to hear. Damn shame.

@JutinSux

2 ай бұрын

​@HelpMeplease991 keep crying

@TheRogueCommand

2 ай бұрын

Matt Berry gave one heck of a performance

@mckenzie.latham91

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the show itself was really good and had some great moments It wasn't the show that failed, just the creator. One of my favourite episodes was where Riley deals with not having a dad because he left them a long time ago A very powerful scene that showed me how much potential this had. Too bad, one would hope that they could reboot it under someone different at some point maybe.

@UltimateDragonX9999

2 ай бұрын

Not mention butt witch is voiced by Matt berry, the same voice actor of bubbles the talking dolphin in the second SpongeBob movie: Sponge out of water.

@theheroingreen

2 ай бұрын

@@HelpMeplease991give us a reason to like your video, don’t beg for it

Jesus Christ why can't adults just learn to leave children alone...

@HellVirus0919

2 ай бұрын

Fr

@mariajimenafigueroa233

2 ай бұрын

Childern: BAD TOUCH! BAD TOUCH! STRANGER DANGER!

@elijaharroyo4846

2 ай бұрын

Idk man. It’s only gonna get worse from here

@smashboy64

2 ай бұрын

Think of biology. That's why.

@plutonium09

2 ай бұрын

@@smashboy64if you can’t control yourself you need help. Biology my ass

My initial reaction to seeing the show without knowing anything about it: "Whoever made this is an adult. Why would you want to be 12 forever? That was an awful age to be."

@Failedlegend

18 сағат бұрын

you know MOST shows are written by adults right? Its only seems suspicious in retrospect since her harassment, etc. was revealed. Being young forever is a well known trope. Peter Pan for example.

*"If only his mom wasn't there."* That woman literally is a danger to any underage boy who ISN'T with a guardian but people decided to not sentence her? Insanity. There's even a decent chance that she already did something horrible and got away with it. Society treats these women like they aren't dangerous and little boys have to pay the price for it. It needs to change.

@Selvestor746

Күн бұрын

I doubt it, the intention was innocent, but the uncalled picture sharing is what draws the line, I don't really care how weird creators are or artists or whatnot as long as they don't talk about what they do, whatever you do stays in your head, only in your head.

The mom letting her son do whatever he wants while she tries to strictly control what her daughter does could have been a good plot point. I had friends with families like this, relentlessly body shaming and humiliating my female friends and letting their brothers do and eat whatever they wanted, because they were boys not girls. This stuff happens, it's just never explored well in the show. Boys are often looked at as people, while girls have to become "women".

@Amphidex

2 ай бұрын

Nah that goes both ways. I thought it was a well known parent issue of boys not being man enough as well as girls not being woman enough, guess not.

@HebiHouse

2 ай бұрын

Especially since the mom is nothing to look at.

@r.r.4563

2 ай бұрын

Even the opposite can also be easily done, whether it’s a boy mom or girl dad, something that could be explored more is just in general treating your own children as if they’re alien to one another and it’s very common and relatable for many.

@lordfreerealestate8302

2 ай бұрын

"Toxic boy moms" on Tiktok are like this. There's a lot of good video essays on YT about it. I was one such girl. "Boys will be boys but girls will be women" as the saying goes. I agree with this comment 💛

@dowman5

2 ай бұрын

​@Amphidex Speaking of myself and my S.O., I got the criticism from my parents for being too nerdy for loving videogames and anime instead of typical male activities like sports and dating when I got into high school, and she got relentlessly body shamed for having large breasts too young yet ironically ridiculed for not dressing girly instead of goth. Both of us being black magnified those grievances.

I feel like the weird uncomfortable side characters from Endless are an attempt to replicate the absurdism of adventure time’s side characters, but like, completely missing

@rickanimationsnewchannel

2 ай бұрын

adventure time did it better

@dr.altoclef9255

2 ай бұрын

I assumed it was also meant to hint at some sinister stuff going on beneath the surface, like it looks great on the surface but it’s really predatory.

@kingalex105x7

2 ай бұрын

i always took it they were meant to compliment reggie's weirdness since well she presumably created alot of them

@lizaraVR

2 ай бұрын

absurd side characters is definitely something that got popularised by the lolrandom nature of adventure time and so many shows tried to cash in on it but completely missing because they rely too heavily on it or they overshoot and make them really creepy instead

@DebbieDickens

2 ай бұрын

That's why the execution of this being Reggie's world felt uncovincing to me, it was less like I'm learning more about Reggie as a character and more like I'm seeing a regurgitation of 2010's aburdist driven cartoons.

I feel like maybe Esther might be ADHD riddled, and that's why she's so talkative and energetic, but still has intelligence. There was structure there, but the execution was miserable... Not to mention the atrocious staff situation, this was doomed from the start.

I paused the video to read the post...my god! "If only his mom hadn't been there"😱 and "Where's your car so I can follow you home?" WHY WOULD THE MOM NOT SEE THAT AS A RED FLAG???? I hope the boy has learned to avoid creeps on his own because the mom clearly is very little help.

The show is called 12 forever because thats what the creator type is

@emdragon6666

2 ай бұрын

Now that's wild

@Guzmananinmates7077

2 ай бұрын

Wgat the actual fuck is this joke

@nitgotlost

2 ай бұрын

no fuckin way

@ObludaNamelessMonster

2 ай бұрын

​@@Guzmananinmates7077what joke ? i see no joke ?

@Hoopergames

2 ай бұрын

Media literacy ​@@Guzmananinmates7077

The voice actor for Reggie blocked me on Twitter a couple years ago for addressing the allegations in the workplace after she claimed the pedo posting was just "jokes." She sucks too.

@HebiHouse

2 ай бұрын

Ooh oof. Especially since it's not like she's not being paid for after the show.

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265

2 ай бұрын

Damn

@nevaehhamilton3493

2 ай бұрын

It's almost as though she knew. And didn't care.

@josephtafur

2 ай бұрын

Oh that's bad

@mckenzie.latham91

2 ай бұрын

​​@@nevaehhamilton3493How would Anyone know but the creator about her secret crush/desired fling? Nah you're reaching there.

Between this and Big Mouth, there seems to be a upward trend of all types of animated shows and movies that fixate on the physical aspects of growing up. While I get that a lot of media danced around the physical hell of puberty for the longest time, especially with girls and periods, and I'm all for body acceptance, you've got some cartoons that deal with it with more or less in metaphors like Turning Red tried to do, and then you've got... this. I think the message intended is really important in what sets all these projects apart. If you're gonna talk about puberty in a serious way, you have to convince me that you care about ALL the emotional hell that comes along with it. As someone who was heavily resistant to becoming a teenager, I know kids like Main Character girl really do exist, and what they're going through. This can be even more miserable of a time for LGBTQ kids who are suddenly forced to ask questions about themselves they never had to consider before. Looking at a bra or a sports cup and having the dawning realization that you're not who you are on the inside. Further realizations, not just romantic interests or lack thereof, but of hobbies and interests, strengths and weaknesses, and insecurities around other people who they perceive have more/can do more/ARE more than you. Better in school, better at drawing, better at sports, etc, a lot of which is all in our head, but that adolescence convinces us is true. There's absolutely reason for a series about a kid resisting these changes to exist, but it has to have the competency to, at least by the very end, show MC maturing and accepting the things that they can't control, and accepting themselves too in who they are becoming. And if their friends and family don't accept them for who they are, to have the courage to rebuild their lives and friends around people who DO. I want to see more coming of age media like this.

I didn't watch twelve forever, but just from watching this video I think a better premise for the plot mainly for Reggie could have been maybe she didn't feel ready to grow up yet, so the reason for her being a terrible person is that she was clinging to all these 'childish traits', like actively refusing to grow up, and then at the end of the series (like it could have ended at her 13th birthday), she learns that she can grow up but still enjoy cartoons and her hobbies and action figures etc, and finally grows out of her childish behaviors and matures, but can still enjoy things from her childhood. It sounds like with her friends they had pretty good premises, with Todd basically being forced to grow up early (parentification) so he wants to cling to whatever he has left and with the other one (forgot her name), maybe it could have been more fleshed out with the sense of her parents disapproving of anything they deem 'childish' because they want her to prepare for her future, despite her being 12. Maybe throughout the series we see Reggie's friends turn 13 and gradually not want to be in Endless anymore, because they 'grow up' or their issues begin to be resolved and their situations get better, like Todd's dad realizing that he's basically used his older sons as replacement fathers for his younger kids and tries to fix it, and the other girls parents realizing that they basically don't have a relationship with their daughter and also try to fix it. So in turn it would make Reggie dig her heels into the ground further because she sees all this growth as a bad thing, she see's her friends situations getting better as bad things because they no longer want to be in Endless as much- like Todd having time to join a club or sports team now that his dad is home more often (or just hanging out with his older brother), and the other girl maybe getting back into hobbies she had as a younger kid or just spending lots of time with her parents going to the park, or having movie night at home. But since Reggie see's this all as a bad thing, it makes her double down and refuse to grow up even more, seeing it as a thing that tore her friends away from her, 'changed' them, etc etc. At the end, you could even maybe have Reggie still go to Endless, but see that the place has changed, and it more of a place that she goes to just enjoy the things she liked from her childhood and no longer stands for a refusal of growing up.

The witch is a representation of the creator

@ACraizyPerson

2 ай бұрын

no cap

@hardingryan42

2 ай бұрын

​​@@UTTPandYFGAarebetterthenMATPAT prove it & also what content

@Theonionofthedisneyjuniorlore

2 ай бұрын

@@UTTPandYFGAarebetterthenMATPATWho asked?

@animefan462

2 ай бұрын

I disagree, butt witch hates children. The creator likes children… a litte too much

@gracekim25

2 ай бұрын

Oh god 😢

If you are ever suspicious of someone's behavior regarding children but you can't verify anything, or they're hovering just inside the realm of plausible deniability, just observe the way they interact with adults. They always have a fundamentally warped understanding of consent and constantly push boundaries.

@susumeyun

2 ай бұрын

Met someone like that once and it was wild, whenever you tried calling them out they'd flip their shit for daring to say they were wrong for it. Absolutely bonkers mentality

@cheesepuffsthings

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. If someone is unable (or unwilling) to grasp something so fundamental as a child's inability to consent, it's sure to show up elsewhere in their lives one way or another.

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

youth attracted people are just as normal as everyone else, there is no way to "tell" if someone is attracted to youth

@cheesepuffsthings

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064 Strictly speaking there are indeed those who are attracted to children due to a brain chemistry disorder who do not break the law in any manner. They simply live life inflicted with urges and feelings they know cannot be acted on. These folks are merely victims of circumstance. It's when this issue is paired with a moral failing of some sort that it comes to criminality. That is the "tell" so-to-speak we speak of. Something is wrong with these people, and it isn't *just* the attraction to minors.

@neoqwerty

2 ай бұрын

@@cheesepuffsthings Those people also have a HELL of a time with power imbalance stuff, they really don't get what power imbalances are or why that is B A D. I had a problem with that too but that was because I'm a certified naive idiot with social interactions who needed to have the ethics behind power imbalances spelled out to me as "having any sort of power, social/financial/intellectual, that makes one of the parties dependent on the other's mercy and left SOL if the party with power/control can vindictively ruin the other party if they ever feel petty about being told 'no'." But I've noticed a lot of MAP and zoo apologists defend themselves in ways that show they do NOT understand they have a power imbalance relative to the kids/animals they claim to love, and like, it's in a different way from domestic abusers who think the power imbalance is a GOOD thing.

"There is no explanation why the mom wants the daughter to be over feminine and only puts responsabilities on her daughter and not on her son!!" every girl with brother: "aaaaan... well..."

okay those posts were literally so disturbing hahahah, wth. how do people even end up like this. I'm at a loss for words honestly. the sheer brazenness and openness with which she willingly declared what she did to the world, like how does one lack that much self awareness dude

Much like Ren and Stimpy, this show is kind of a fascinating dive into its creator's mind. That being Reggie feeling more of a reflection of its creator, Julia, than she probably realizes: immature, selfish, always wanting to be the center of attention, barely taking accountability for her actions, and taking the cancellation into account...will never internally grow up.

@NoahGooder

2 ай бұрын

when it comes to ren and stimpy i always thought it was made by somone who gave a child too much sugar and then took notes.

@shaneharrisnj3484

2 ай бұрын

This show was good and it had a great "coming of age" storyline and Kelsey Abbott was perfect as Reggie, as they both (plus the creator, who was besties with Kelsey since childhood) were from the rapidly growing state of Iowa (shoutout to stock car racing legend Mike Garvey and WWE star Seth Rollins, both native Hawkeyes)... Shame that this show was banished because of the creator's actions (and Netflix's carelessness in serialized Animation outside of Hilda at the time.)

@Skycrusher

2 ай бұрын

@@shaneharrisnj3484 Shame the show was cancelled, not shame that the creator was a horrible p3dophillie? You sound like a monster.

@ellugerdelacruz2555

2 ай бұрын

A pedo in charge of a woke @$$ show? Gee, what a surprise!!!

@I_SWEAR_IM_NOT_LYING

2 ай бұрын

I genuinely think the creator is messed up in the brain, and tried to make a self insert cartoon, only to make this. A show about never growing up, made by a person who never grew up.

I’m honestly glad Saber addressed how creepy a lot of the inhabitants of Endless were. Idk if it’s because I knew about Julia when I watched the show, but so many of the Endless characters seemed… juvenile, but not in a childlike or innocent way. More like a creep or someone who wants to appeal to a child for nefarious reasons. People say Reggie could be a self insert of Julia, but I think the inhabitants are probably more like her given how she acts and has admitted to acting.

@torytellstales

2 ай бұрын

Yeah.....one of the characters is a guy with literally no pants, the one character opens up his "front compartment" to bestow to the main girl a "blown up gift", and the whole breathing camera thing and swallow things imaginary......... It feels less like "entering the world of peer childhood bliss and imagination wonderland" and more like exploring someone's inner dark warped thoughts and erotic fantasies Art really represents a creator's inner dark secrets, doesn't it?

@ctdaniels7049

2 ай бұрын

I refer to this as "Hair follicle theory." When an author makes something, it's like plucking out a hair. All their surface ideas go into the work (the hair bit), but the root always comes with it (the author's personal thoughts--for better or worse).

@wolfkit2826

2 ай бұрын

@@ctdaniels7049 I like this. Can I use that? That’s a great way of explaining it!

@Xaixiu

2 ай бұрын

But its a woman doing it tho. I thought that is was okay for a womna to that kind of stuff. No one ever really makes a big deal about it other times

@torytellstales

2 ай бұрын

@@Xaixiu People are making a deal about it now, especially since a lot of female teachers have been discovered to be predators and female daycare attendants were found out to be doing unsavory things to kids. Its about time. It was never okay, regardless if its a man OR woman thats creeping on young kids. Adults hitting on adolescents especially is criminal behavioral. The problem for the longest time is our society seems to think only masculinity is evil for some reason. Im glad women predators are finally being called out.

As far as I'm concerned: 12 Forever only exists for the Buttwitch. I've never actually watched the show. I've only watched clips of the Buttwitch and listened to her theme song. Hearing someone talk about the contents of the rest of the show only confirms my opinion.

Wasn't Chris Hardwick cleared of that claim? Several of his ex-girlfriends, associates and his wife vouched for him. Isn't it a bit dishonest to paint him as guilty?

It doesn't matter if you are a hot woman. A P-word is a P-word!

@jewelxiat

2 ай бұрын

"Hot" is too kind a word for her. 😬

@camiblack1

2 ай бұрын

Eh, is she really, anything from 2012 on that she was perving on kids? Because, hate saying this, unless she was creeping on 10 year olds, everything looks to be 14-16 from tweets and the Tumblr post (all made when she was lets see 30 in 2024 so subtract 14 years, so 16) you have to pause at the right time to see that it was at the exact same time as the 2010 tweets it was more of a warning that she was gonna creep in her age group. Actually kinda hate how Saber seemingly intentionally covered up the date when zooming in on the Tumblr post, paints a different picture of her creepiness but wouldn't get quite the clicks and engagement. Also wouldn't call her hot.

@spaceinaspace8452

2 ай бұрын

Reminds of that South Park episode when Kyle's brother Ike is discovered being in a "Relationship" with a female teacher.

@ryancarson6962

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@camiblack1Julia Vickerman was born in 1984, the incident with stalking the boy happened in 2010, so she was *26,* at the *most,* when she was stalking a *14 year old boy.* She is undeniably the p-word in this situation. Actually do your research before you accuse Saber of intentionally spreading misinformation to get clicks.

@mysterykiddo2167

2 ай бұрын

Agreed!

Ngl, the mother-daughter relationship is VERY REALISTIC "Do this cuz I want you to, you won't get it. Also ur brother can do whatever he wants and you don't get to know why either" But then you grow up picking up pieces of things your mom says when she thinks you're not listening, or when you're fighting And you only understand after you leave her house and look at the situation from far away

@MyEnglishIsWorseThanMyKinks

2 ай бұрын

So, what is the answer? The one you get after leaving. Why do some mothers behave this way?

@nkbujvytcygvujno6006

2 ай бұрын

​@@MyEnglishIsWorseThanMyKinks They're just bullies.

@MyEnglishIsWorseThanMyKinks

2 ай бұрын

@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 that doesn't exactly explain why the brother is allowed to do whatever he wants

@nkbujvytcygvujno6006

2 ай бұрын

@@MyEnglishIsWorseThanMyKinks Are you a child? They just enjoy the power of forcing the scapegoat to put up with the golden child being treated better. Because they are bullies. Obviously. And of having someone to fawn over & to feel like good parents about, separate from someone to take their cruelty out on. And they deny what they're doing to themselves so they can feel like good people, and having a kid you spoil helps sell the idea that the other kid is upset/uncomfortable around you just because they're lazy and terrible and need correction. Just look up abusive parents and scapegoats vs. golden child dynamics. This is so simple and it's not my job to explain the obvious to you.

@MyEnglishIsWorseThanMyKinks

2 ай бұрын

@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 idk where you got the idea that it's "so simple" lol, maybe you went through it yourself (or you know people who went through it), but I didn't, that's why I'm asking about it. Ofc it's not "your job" to explain anything to random people on the internet, so if my question made you upset for some reason, you could've just, y'know, not reply to my last comment. Regardless, thanks for the information, I'll look it up

22:23 It wasn't just fear of professional retaliation, the post gives equal attention to the "lack of support for targets of a female abuser." Kind of disappointed you did not make mention of that. In a weird way, you omitting that only makes it more valid.

When looking at the nature of the shows created, it kinda becomes more obvious that the creators who were, have been tried or allegated against. Like Clarence? Loud House? This show? Did no one else sniff the red flags?

@rikkusruckus

29 күн бұрын

like Colleen Ballinger, it was as clear as day that she liked kids but nobody noticed somehow. it really turns my stomach.

As someone who was “that nerdy kid” in earlier years, some real pre-teens absolutely do speak like Esther. I was one of them lol

@ironically_iconic9848

2 ай бұрын

I wasn’t one of them but I had a bunch of friends like them LMAO The warrior cat girls were next level

@ArturGlass.C

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the way she talked reminded me of a nerdy friend I had lol. Didn't think it was too bad. We were a bit older tho like 13-14 still don't sound super unrealistic tho. When you spend your time reading and such it impacts how you speak. It makes sense. Not judging tho, I was talking like a disney sitcom character...so i had my own thing going on too.

@billbill6094

2 ай бұрын

Yeah that point struck me as odd there, I could clearly see what they were doing with that bit, nothing struck me as "chat gpt", that's something I would say as a kid to be subversive.

@livloves1616

2 ай бұрын

I knew a girl like that too actually. I was too quiet to be her, but I probably would have been if I'd been more outgoing.

@adararelgnel2695

2 ай бұрын

​@@ironically_iconic9848 HAaaa! I was a warrior cat girl ❤

no fucking way, i thought this was a classic case of being creepy and disgusting without realizing it or whatever bullshit they usually make up, but SHE TAGGED THE WORD HERSELF WTF???? thats just a whole new level

@ellugerdelacruz2555

2 ай бұрын

A pedo in charge of a woke @$$ show? Gee, what a surprise!!!

@GooeySplat

2 ай бұрын

yeah that's crazy. she's not even a p word lmao

@GooeySplat

2 ай бұрын

she just like the teenager world. people are making a fuzz about anything these days

@Kyumifun

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, she didn't even tried to hide it. At least she was aware of the problem i guess (yet still didn't tried to fix it and got even worse when she harrassed her coworkers....)

@Commander_Shepard.

2 ай бұрын

@@GooeySplat Don't defend a p word.

I'm starting feel like an entire genre of books that supposedly aimed at teenage girl audience during late late 2000 is to blame here.

@Game_Hero

Ай бұрын

like what? I'm curious.

@scarletweb2106

Ай бұрын

Yeah me too ❤

@kalkhalinzhui1753

24 күн бұрын

On the top of my head, Twilight. I know, "how original" I must be. On another note, perhaps some movie adaptations of teen novels are to partially blame like, again, Twilight.

This show feels like someone who either don't understand Peter Pan, or actively trying to avoid the message of maturity in Peter Pan.

Greg married a criminal in show AND in real life. Dedication

@Randomdude1979

2 ай бұрын

Noooooo greg

@nevaehhamilton3493

2 ай бұрын

He probably knows he's being cheated on, but for some reason, due to double standards, is being docile about it due to Julia having leverage against him.

@blueflare3848

2 ай бұрын

Lol

@purpleemerald5299

2 ай бұрын

She forces him to roleplay as a little boy every night, but none of the helplines will take him seriously…

@rimfire8217

2 ай бұрын

Rose is a lot better then whoever this is

I actually met Julia in person before all of this came out and she gave off really weird vibes. Within like 5 minutes of conversation she brought up how she had a large collection of Butt Witch NSFW

@sillycookie

2 ай бұрын

EWWW WTH

@geo_games_xd4339

2 ай бұрын

Gross

@invadertech141

2 ай бұрын

w h a t .

@iskatetwo

2 ай бұрын

that is.. oh..

@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme

2 ай бұрын

Ewwwwww

I have an interesting concept. A sequel of sorts of this show. In the future where Reggie is grown up and with a kid. Toss in Reggie being a single mother having to raise a kid who is quite, polite and no where near how Reggie was at that age. Now, lets toss her in her old childhood home, Her parents gave it to her cause they were moving out and Reggie needed a place for her kid since where she was became harder to expansive. Reggie never told any one about endless, only a few friends, and almost forgot about it till she came back home. Things are peaceful for a small bit, Reggie got a job and she sent her daughter to school. And then her daughter starts vanishing, she is in her room one moment, and then the next poof gone, only to come back bruised and very tired. There are even times Reggie finds her daughter in the living room on the couch asleep instead of in her bedroom. Well, endless is back, and its been taking Reggie's daughter, every night. Reggie being an adult now with adult issues, its been conflicting with Endless, twisting things around. Reggie tries over and over to get into Endless to find out what is going on, after seeing her daughter vanish before her eyes. Feeling helpless till an odd, deep voice calls out to Reggie, and suddenly, there she is standing next to her daughter, and the buttwitch, who is acting nice and good. Turns out when Reggie finally left her home, endless sort slowed, nothing happened, no one did anything, well every one but the Buttwitch. For awhile she tried to be the evil villain, but alas, its hard to be evil when all the crazy creatures walk around like they have no energy, and seemed to be put in slow mode. It was like that for awhile, and then Reggie came back. That is where the twist began, the world of Endless started back up. The Buttwitch was rather happy to see things coming back to life...for like a 30 seconds. Reggie's adult mind twisted up the world of endless, new creatures popped up, and a lone human figure seemed to come out of no where. The Buttwitch, once a major villain was now on the other end of the treatment. Endless no longer was a safe place to be. But the world seemed to want something, or some one, and that is when endless reached in and grabbed Reggie's daughter. When ever the kid came into Endless, The buttwitch was with her, protecting the girl while the strange mysterious male figure always tried to take the child Long story short, the mysterious figure is the representation of the man Reggie was once in love with, and the was the father to her daughter. When her daughter was still a baby the father left, robbing her for good measure, and a few years later, came back, with a lawyer. One very long custody battle later, Reggie managed to keep her kid. A few months later, Reggie's ex kidnapped her daughter. A month of searching and pure hell later, she managed to find her child. In this really nice house, high tech everything. And there was the ex, drinking, and smoking watching football with some other guys, with her daughter in a playpen with pet toys, coughing cause of the smoke. You see the reason he wanted his daughter wasn't cause he loved her, its just his mother told him to man up and take care of the kid. When the legal case did not work, his mother told him that its his kid and he has every right to the child. So he took the girl, Reggie managed to get in take back her daughter and leave with out being noticed. And then she moved to a new place, and had been moving around for awhile till she managed to come back to her childhood home. That fear, along with the other bits of her adult life infected Endless, with her fear manifesting as the mysterious figure, who was using his power to take Reggie's daughter into the world of Endless, but Reggie's old foe the Buttwitch was also effected, with every bit the motherly compassion Reggie had, and thus when ever Reggie's daughter came into Endless, she would try to send her back home, which had been increasing in difficulty.

@scarletweb2106

Ай бұрын

Wonderful!

*"Reggie* gets a crush on a mature *8th Grade girl,* which sounds worse now with the implications given *Julia's allegations."* I get that Julia is a creep... but is the age gap between a 12-year-old (which is commonly an age for 6th graders) and an 8th grader is considered "problematic" now? It's only two years apart dude. Lots of people date those who are two years younger/older than they are and it's considered normal.

Moral of the story for Twelve Forever: Write a good story that centers around puberty and also making the 12 year old MC be an awful character isn't a good excuse to write a decent child character. and the Moral of the story on the other side: Female predators exist. EDIT: fixed a typo and hi fellas!

@NoahGooder

2 ай бұрын

funfact they are also the least prosecuted out of the 2. Parents when dealing with a creepy male coach: either deal with it or get the pitchforks we are going to school Parents when dealing with a creepy female teacher: those dont exist you are just exaggerating.

@ellugerdelacruz2555

2 ай бұрын

A pedo in charge of a woke @$$ show? Gee, what a surprise!!!

@marlom7882

2 ай бұрын

I would have literally bet my functioning liver being ripped out of my body rn over me seeing people admit female predators existed ever in my life

@ByTheStorm

2 ай бұрын

@@NoahGooderAlso doesn’t help how boys are sexualized by society and pressured to lose their virginity. So in some eyes, a boy getting sexually assaulted and or raped by a woman is viewed as them being virile. Luckily? I went to a school that when my first in a series of three eighth grade teachers tried to groom a couple of my closest friends, she was immediately fired. The second one was eccentric but smart and the third? Well? Imagine having the temporary principal in Harry Potter as a teacher. At least the last two weren’t creeps. I had another creepy teacher in high school who literally told me to my face (it was a complicated and messed up time for me) about having feelings for the high school girls. Wasn’t really sure how to really confront something like this as it was just us there. And he had my grades in his hand.

@ByTheStorm

2 ай бұрын

@@marlom7882They do admit it, but it’s going to take a while. Especially since even girls have issues with male pedos not being taken seriously.

Tbh, if they were gonna have Reggie be a self centered jerk who doesnt grow as a person easily, they shouldve let her be that way in Endless Island. She could be a sweet, charming, proper, girly person in the real world so that she can meet the needs of her mom and the expectations of society, but inside she's angry and stressed because she feels like she CANT be anything except what her mom wants her to be, so when she goes to Endless, she can let out her anger and order people around and have everything go HER way. And then she show can touch on that and help her figure out how she can open herself up more to her mother and be the person she actually wants to be in real life. THAT wouldve been so much better.

@blueflare3848

2 ай бұрын

This is honestly such a better idea. It gives the character more depth as well.

@lollybowser

2 ай бұрын

honestly so many ppl saying "oh shame it got canceled" but controversy aside, when I watched it I thought it was a waste of potential, also Endless felt more like hell than paradise.

@Sigurther

2 ай бұрын

End eventually, due to time shenanigans, she becomes the Buttwitch.

@iamastegosauruses2734

2 ай бұрын

For some reason I read "And then she can touch on that" as "And then she can show her touching herself"

@shadowednight1600

2 ай бұрын

If the creator wasn;t a total creep it could had been that. But Peter Pan Syndrome is a huge problem with people like her and I know this will come up again. There's lots of people like the 12 Forever creator out there

19:17 I remember now, yea she was gross about it and oml she was nasty to everyone about it

An interesting take for the show would be if Endless turned out to be an indulgence, since it seemingly gives Reggie everything she wants. The action, the adventure, the *enablement.* Her mom tells her off? She runs to Endless. Her friends disagree with her? She runs to Endless. Any sort of problem at all, she would run to Endless. It would explain why nothing changes throughout the show, why every 'lesson' was dragged from scraps, why she never got better, and why she only ever seemed to get worse if anything... It would also be just so damn _facinating._ A fantasy world that fulfils your every desire is a hidden nightmare, as seen in Coraline, but instead of the danger being an outside entity like the Other Mother, _you_ would be the danger. _Reggie_ would be the danger, to herself, to her friends, to her family. If her childishness and her selfishness is being indulged and practically rewarded, she *never* needs to change, because Endless will take her as she is, and the creatures there always mindlessly love her. The world would forever make up artifical 'flaws' and silly fights to distract Reggie from thinking about herself or her problems too hard. What's the problem when you're always the solution? Why bother changing when you're told you're already the best? It's a horror scenario wrapped in candy and fluro. Reggie would need to learn to let go, to actually live, and that problems are just... a part of life, that the world doesn't always go your way. Her friends might need to drag her out forcefully, with Reggie being in too deep, while they also have to grapple with the idea of letting go of Endless. If they don't, then they'll obviously be trapped forever, like in the episode where they stayed there over break. See, now _that_ would be a show with a plot.

The fact that the creator also worked on YO GABBA GABBA of all things is just straight up concerning. ESPECIALLY given that show’s demographic

@lucidstarx3456

2 ай бұрын

Yo gabba gabba was a big part of my childhood so knowing that creep worked on that show is upsetting

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

@@lucidstarx3456 she's not creepy she's literally just existing

@nexus-sentinel252

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064 Shut up creep

@legendarybubbles4567

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064A GROWN WOMAN, was taking about how 🤢-hot, she finds literal children. 🤮 She stalked a young boy at a carnival, trying to take pictures of him, and wished his mother wasn’t there with him. Calling her a creep is an understatement. Stop downplaying her actions.

@josephtafur

2 ай бұрын

And I use to like YO GABBA GABBA EWWWW

Didn’t she also work on the awful powerpuff reboot too? Makes sense

@BluffsCastle

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. She specifically worked on the episode where the PPGs twerk.

@daisyblueofficial

2 ай бұрын

The live action one?

@IgikoPop

2 ай бұрын

@@BluffsCastle Predatooooor! God so gross👁👄👁

@FillmGeekOfDoom

2 ай бұрын

@@daisyblueofficial No the 2016 reboot.

@frikitiki5403

2 ай бұрын

Wonder if she was pals with the guy who self insert himself as blossom's crush

8:12 ....pause..

12 forever actually has a great concept that I think would help a lot of girls who are at that age, I wish I had a show that tackled this stuff when I was hitting puberty. what a waste

Ironic that since the show is not returning the protagonist will stay 12 forever.

@mysterykiddo2167

2 ай бұрын

LOL

@desaug

2 ай бұрын

HAH

Endless could have been an interesting take on the land of the lotus eaters, an island that seems to give kids everything they want but actually encourages their worst behaviors so they slowly grow more isolated from their real-life loved ones. They could even keep the butt-witch as a kind of misguided anti-hero that has has good reasons for keeping kids out of endless but goes about it too aggressively (maybe because she knows the kids won't believe her anyway). It almost looks like that's what they were trying to do in the actual show but the final product is just too shallow and too much of a production mess to actually deliver.

@zehlua

2 ай бұрын

See, I like your take on the idea.

@manboy4720

2 ай бұрын

that actually sounds interesting, and gives a good lesson for kids to not get totally absorbed into fantasies and to appreciate the people close in their lives.

@AlexN5597

2 ай бұрын

See! That's what I was thinking too! I could've sworn Butt Witch was gonna end up being the "we thought you were a villain but actually you were trying to help us all along" kind of character, with the island being just as you described, like a mirror image of the island from the Odyssey. But they just fumbled the story somewhere along the way 😑

@TheThing4444

2 ай бұрын

No, the Butt Witch is clearly evil. She tried to kill the kids numerous times. The island could sitll be a lotus eater however.

@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin

2 ай бұрын

There are moments in the show that do actually feel like that's exactly what supposed to be going on, but in the end it never really commits to it and just sweeps those implications under the rug the next episode.

I remember watching this show even before.the allegations and being so uncomfortable.and upset upon finishing it

I didn’t know about most of the things with twelve forever, but I remember really liking the show. Also Ngl the butt witch is giving Alastor from Hazbin Hotel vibes.

jerks who never develop and never grow are annoying too. Being a jerk isn't "just how kids are" its how BAD people are.

@thestrawberrypimpva

2 ай бұрын

Actually kids haven't developed empathy so most children are awful people

@alexandraclavijo8149

2 ай бұрын

💯

@ICantRecognizeCelebrities

2 ай бұрын

True. I've never watched a grown adult throw a tantrum in public and think, "Wow, it's so beautiful when we hold onto our childhood innocence."

that tumblr post was crazy and disgusting. the way she described that poor kid was awful. one of the worst feelings i have EVER experienced in my whole life is being a child and having adults look at you/think about you that way and being aware. i have been approached at work by strangers and by a coworker. it made me scared, nauseous, and disgusted with my own body. i wanted to hide away forever when i was confronted by possible p@dos or uncomfortable interactions that had some amount of plausible deniability. my deepest sympathies for anyone who has gone through similar experiences, and ESPECIALLY towards young kids going thru puberty that abruptly changes how adults interact with you. it is scary and awful, but there are always other kids and adults in your life who will do everything they can to protect you. talk to your family, your friends, your coworkers, your boss. maybe not everyone you turn to will help, but for every disgusting bystander, theres 10 more people willing to help, i promise. no matter what happens, no matter what you wish you would have done, it is NEVER your fault.

@camiblack1

2 ай бұрын

Like I get what you're saying, but the creepier thing is, she wrote that when she was 16, she was a minor creeping on another minor.

@ChangedMyNameFinally69

2 ай бұрын

@camiblack1 What do you mean when she was 16?

@camiblack1

2 ай бұрын

@LJK401 the post was from 2010 (if you look at it before Saber covered up the year in the timestamp) she's 30 in 2024... so 30-14 equals?

@tsuivan6690

2 ай бұрын

@@camiblack1 shes 39 now. she was 26 when she wrote that tumblr post, and i think she mentioned her *fiance* helped her take pics

@ChangedMyNameFinally69

2 ай бұрын

@@camiblack1 Everything I'm looking up is saying she was born in 1984, which would make her 26 when the incident happened.

I got really into this show back when I was a preteen, due to my lifelong wish to sometimes escape to another world and my at the time recent discovery of liking girls. I hated the creatures and the humour so much though. However, I remember finding a really good fanfiction based off of the episode where Todd and Esther spent a week in Endless. It was narrated by the Butt Witch, and portrayed her as a girl whose mother refused to let her grow up and into her own body back in the Real World, so when she was 17ish she ran away to stay in Endless forever. Turns out, before it was 12's fantasy land it was hers, hence why she hated how it had changed so much. It had gone from where she could grow up to a place where you never had to never grow up. But it's revealed later on that before it was the Witch's island, it was Dr. Champion's. He went there to avoid war conscription, and lost his mind. It ends with the Witch returning to the Real World briefly to see what became of her home & her mother, and that's when she learns her dissapearence became a local mystery. She spooks Reggie's older brother, and then returns to Endless once more. It was ridiculously well thought out, in that way that small fandoms always manage to pull off. It was better than the actual show, too.

The creator had such little involvement in the show outside its creation, so it doesn’t ruin the show for me it’s just sadly ironic. Also frustrating that creators behind The Loud House and Fairly OddParents are rightfully booted from their shows that get to live on but the same couldn’t happen for 12Forever.

@Essu_

2 ай бұрын

Because those shows were already vastly successful and provided value to the companies by keeping them running. Also Butch left Fairly Odd Parents, he didn't get booted. This show came out the gate ready to get cancelled.

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265

2 ай бұрын

​@@Essu_By the time it got out into Netflix I didn't have hope

@SergioLeonardoCornejo

2 ай бұрын

Well. Maybe it can be restored via buying.

@taylorwright7428

2 ай бұрын

​@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Yeah, I think it's been proven by now that Netflix doesn't value their animations as much as other types of shows.

@Xxxvidsdg

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but did you watch the video? Pretty much no one wanted involvement in the show or a second season of it plus, it really wasn’t that successful unlike the loud house or Clarence so it being canceled wouldn’t be that much of a problem for Netflix.

honestly the fact that this creep of a showrunner had worked on the 2016 ppg reboot, clarence and rick and morty is...not surprising, honestly, it's like there's a pattern.

@silly-guy-55027

2 ай бұрын

Clarence?

@gokuxsephiroth4505

2 ай бұрын

I didn't know the ppg twerking clip was supposed to be foreshadowing for the sexualisation of children.

@Toonrick12

2 ай бұрын

​@@silly-guy-55027Creator went mental and was booted off from his own show and main character.

@fluidwolf

2 ай бұрын

@@gokuxsephiroth4505 It never crossed your mind that the show having several in universe children doing a dance move that mainly involves shaking their asses at people could be a bad sign?

@ItsAubreeyy

2 ай бұрын

@@fluidwolfturning red did the same thing and i hate how nobody referenced this

When Reggie has a flashback to when she was 11 and met Todd, she was wearing the clothes from the pilot episode. That was a great callback.

8:31 that’s a level 5 GYATT

The trope of "mom picking on daughter but letting son do whatever" is actually still very prominent in the middle east, very separate from creator being a creep. Dunno about other ethnicities and/or countries, but reality is kinda sad no matter how people might think the 'trope' is "unrealistic" Anyways, want a good show featuring a young protagonist and tackling coming of age themes? Adventure Time!

@botanicalitus4194

2 ай бұрын

its very much still a thing in the USA as well, but usually boys/men think its unrealistic because they werent the ones experiencing the bad side of it growing up

@oddlysomething

2 ай бұрын

I understand it's realistic but i think the problem is that it's not presented negatively or by calling out the hypocrisy, it's just kinda there and brushed off. Whcih is weird because you know, if it _was_ intentional then there's no reason for it to be there, and if it wasn't then it's inattentive writing

@ajakakakak

2 ай бұрын

@@botanicalitus4194idk I’m pretty sure favoritism with siblings happen often no matter if you’re a male or female

@greywolf7577

2 ай бұрын

Men are still put under more pressure to earn money than women are, so it is usually the boys who are put under more pressure to grow up than the girls. A man in a low income job will struggle to find a good wife whereas a woman in a low income job can still find a good husband.@@botanicalitus4194

@DameOfDiamonds

2 ай бұрын

​@@ajakakakak sure, but men are more often the favorite

Julia Ickerman helped work on PPG (2016) and she written for the more infamous episode aka the girls twerking. Yeah... red flags all around.

@i-like_pear

2 ай бұрын

Nah💀💀

@AverageConsumer-uj8sm

2 ай бұрын

What id PPG?

@AverageConsumer-uj8sm

2 ай бұрын

ohh powerpuffgurls

@dokuganryu1565

2 ай бұрын

Funny how it all starts connecting once you take a look from afar.

@gnoot50

2 ай бұрын

oh yikes.. yea that twerking scene in ppg always made me feel uncomfortable

12:24 These plot points should unfold over time instead of in one episode, I think. Like a backstory for the Reggie’s mom. My guess would be that she’s projecting onto her daughter.

9:36 I feel like the fact it is a children’s cartoon yet still horrifying seems to kind of be a thing. The one that I remember to be less horrifying than it actually is, is Adventure Time. I’ve start rewatching it and it does seem scarier than I remember. But the style between Forever Twelve and Adventure Time seems very similar. I don’t know if they really are, but it’s just something I noticed. (Edit: I feel like I should have an example. The episode that I found the most terrifying even if I didn’t remember it that way was “No One Can Hear You” or the 67th episode overall. It still freaks me out.)

I wish the show never got canceled 😭 Its a shame the creators a bad person.

@mrunknown138

2 ай бұрын

I always wondered why this never got another season. Loved the intro song.

@RosemaryBo1991

2 ай бұрын

True

@cameronbosch1213

2 ай бұрын

I mean, they could have had somebody else take it over. Although usually when the show creator leaves, that's not a good sign.

@saulgoodman4235

2 ай бұрын

Sadly, put that's how cancel culture work. If you're a bad person, be prepare what people's will hate anything what you created, no matter what is it - Friendly family song about Christmas, or fond of help for people's with Dawn sindrom. "Society" will ruin anything

@TheOneRioji

2 ай бұрын

@saulgoodman4235 This made… no fucking sense. If you’re a bad person, and you make something harmful, or do something harmful, you shouldn’t expect any consequences? Is that what you’re getting at? Cuz it sure as hell sounds like it. I’m sorry, but… that’s not the way the world works. Whatever you do, there will always be consequences to your actions.

The "I made dumb jokes on the internet a decade ago" excuse only works if you were a teen who didn't know any better, NOT WHEN YOU WERE A FULL ASS ADULT AT 25 🤢

@DarthBiomech

2 ай бұрын

It's not an excuse for this specific situation, but still people don't magically stop developing and changing once they hit 18 (or 20, or 25... or ever, really) as a general rule. "Hindsight is 20/20", if anything else.

@hibiscux064

2 ай бұрын

y'all harass this woman for hornyposting on tumblr when literally thousands of other blogs hornypost too

@NotJpTem

2 ай бұрын

​@@hibiscux064difference is that theyre hornyposting about 18+ random ass characters, this woman is HORNYPOSTING ABOUT REAL 14 YEAR OLDS

@legendarybubbles4567

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064You do realize you’re talking about a GROWN WOMAN talking about UNDERAGE boys, right? Just because other blogs do it too, doesn’t make it right. It’s wrong no matter who posts it.

@berketexx

2 ай бұрын

@@hibiscux064the issue wasnt that she was hornyposting, the issue was that she was hornyposting over a 14 YEAR OLD 😭

1:19 end of the video. Thank you

27:39 mic drop