I vote let Kareem keep credit for his ghetto bird

@void-void-void-tv

4 жыл бұрын

Right?! Classic white guy move to take away the credit from the black guy and "reinvent" the name. Fuck outta here

@Gnarwolf

4 жыл бұрын

agreed it just sounds better saying ghetto bird for one, who wants to say a fucking mouthful for one trick and Fuck you @Alan V K you racist prick

@Eternal56

4 жыл бұрын

YES! Kareem invented it as nollie than it should forever be nollie! No one would take it away if it were rodney who invented the trick.

@dngrouscrgo

3 жыл бұрын

rodolfo navas actually that was more or less his exact reason for proposing to remove the nollie aspect of it (rewatch the part where he explains the renaming of gazelle flips)

@jakesweigard399

3 жыл бұрын

@@void-void-void-tv why you gotta bring race into it

It means police helicopter.

@suzakuwatzu

4 жыл бұрын

Kareem has stated before that this was the basis of the name, from the LAPD copters that flew around while they skated.

@rickyrampage3732

4 жыл бұрын

@@suzakuwatzu you gonna try to correct homies comment from 3 years ago on a vid you saw 1 day ago.... gtfo

@idiot0622

4 жыл бұрын

@@suzakuwatzustupid ass

@suzakuwatzu

4 жыл бұрын

screaming4spliffs feed me your tears buttboy

@themostdiabolicalhater5986

4 жыл бұрын

screaming4spliffs fucking piss baby

You're definitely right that tricks shouldn't have built-in stance arguments, and that FS or BS should be attached to any and all (body) spins. However, calling that shit anything other than a Ghetto Bird is an insult to Kareem, who was *clearly* responsible for introducing and popularizing it under that name...gotta pay respects where they're due, man. Nobody ever heard that name until THPS 2, and nobody ever saw one before Kareem's part in (what I believe was) Rodney vs. Daewon. What you showed Kareem do should be known as a "Nollie BS Ghetto Bird".

@Dylan2688

4 жыл бұрын

Kasper preach!!!!

@idiot0622

4 жыл бұрын

yeah fr

@chilleundso

4 жыл бұрын

Disagree on the directions... A Caballerial for example is always FS.... Why can't the trick just be called a Ghetto Bird when its Nollie BS and if you do Nollie Hardflip FS 180 you just called it exactly that ... It's that ONE EXACT trick that get's that name and otherwise you just spell it out ... just my opinion.

@danimal_ca

4 жыл бұрын

@@chilleundso a caballerial is always fakie backside... like a rickflip is always fakie frontside, like a ghettobird is always nollie backside.

@chilleundso

4 жыл бұрын

@@danimal_ca I have googled which way fakie bs vs fs is for an hour and everyone says something else :-) I have always called fs the rotations where after 90 degrees you face forward but I guess some people see it the opposite way on fakie tricks. Anyway ... not the point. I think "special" names should just be for that specific stance and directional rotation like you said

It’s actually sad.....one of the most iconic tricks done and named by a legendary iconic skater, and these people still don’t know what a real ghetto bird is. And not only that, they will disagree with you if you say a nollie hardflip backside 180 is a ghetto bird.

@2020Dreamlife

Жыл бұрын

All facts

@letsgooo1637

Жыл бұрын

This has to be a joke, a Ghetto bird is a Nollie bigspin hardflip Or in other words, a Nollie fs 180 Hardflip

I don't even skate and I find these videos super entertaining.

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Haha that's awesome. I'm happy to have you around!

@Grim_Pinata

7 жыл бұрын

I came here for the THUG Pro review and for some reason now I'm seeing everything else.

@ninjaj1695

4 жыл бұрын

Give it a shot its fun af

Kareem cambell came up with it leave the name alone, Landed one time or a thousand times he still came up with it. its like changing dark slide or casper slide or primo or nada spin or any of those obscure names that THE PROS came up with as Their own legacy.

@who7950

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was Fabian who came up with it

@PBScene

4 жыл бұрын

It's a Natas Spin, not Nada Spin. Just so you know :D

@michaelscarn4036

2 жыл бұрын

yup i agree dude, thats the name its his trick... why change thename just cause he landed it once? thats like saying da vinci only painted one mona lisa lets change the name cause he didnt do and sell a bunch of prints

I always gave the Ghetto Bird to my custom skaters in the Tony Hawk games. It's a sick move.

@plexyglass429

2 жыл бұрын

And so good to use in game, it can be landed in flatland, so off grinds and spun on verts gives lots of extra point to combos

you should definitely do a video on caballerials and the whole "full cab" controversy. also I've always found it interesting how older skaters use terms that most skaters now would think are incorrect like heelflip shove it instead of varial heel or frontside half cab flip

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

What controversy? Just that saying 'full cab' is unnecessary? Yeah I was thinking about that too... "varial" is a vert trick, so a "varial kickflip" seems more like a vert term. I'm pretty sure the Tony Hawk games are the ones that made that popular. Might be worth looking into...

@VLSkate

7 жыл бұрын

i've just always seen comments of kids saying that there is no such thing as a full cab, or a nollie full cab because caballerial is meant to only be a fakie bs 360. i guess it's just kind of like you said in this video about ghetto birds being nollie and then losing the stance distinction.

@VLSkate

7 жыл бұрын

Rad Rat Video well, nevermind, the berrics JUST put up a video with steve caballero explaining that a caballerial is always fakie

@yorrapenae5588

Жыл бұрын

​ Skateboarding names 😂😂🔥💯🌹

@skyluke9476

4 ай бұрын

It’s all cuz skaters were in different parts of the country for decades. There were thousands of names for every trick and unless people were traveling around and visiting other cities to skate the tricks all kind of morphed into their own names. Eventually standardisation slowly has come into play. At the end of the day I think Kareem pulled off the single coolest looking trick in history, the late 180 on his whole body is so steezy, while I’ve seen no one else do that with that late of twist last second. But at the end of the day, let’s just skate, names only matter when teaching other people how to do a trick so people can search the correct trick to learn, but all tricks in skating are sick as fuck!

He DEFINITELY DOES IT on a bank as his ender in Rodney vs Dewon and I think over a picnic table too in it or in a video part clip somewhere

Ghetto bird’s the name. No more saying

For a trick he only hit once, it sure made an impact.

@MrPooPooJohn

7 жыл бұрын

sketch, no less.

@MrSimondaniel3

7 жыл бұрын

it wasnt sketch lol

@tombstonejones9581

6 жыл бұрын

Twas steezy

@zebulunpetrowsky1205

5 жыл бұрын

It's because his style was amazing. Made it look easy.

@JamesHarris772

5 жыл бұрын

That's what makes it a legendary trick...

They dont call it ghetto bird anymore cuz they want to taken the credit away from take the originator

@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck anyone who wants that to happen. Kareem is a goddamn pioneer. Kids need to respect...

@Filthyheartz

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid fact. This Honeslty annoys me as a skater lol

I saw him do one at a demo in the early 2000s

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Really? That's good to know! Thanks for the info

It's so weird seeing people outside of Cali not know what Ghetto Bird means lol

Such a nice trick! Really looking forward to the next video. Forward Flip/Dolphin Flip maybe? ;)

Hes done them more than once.

@jamariojackson4289

3 жыл бұрын

I’m saying tho, multiple cases of him doing this trick lmao. He did one nearly every demo haha.

@DJ_Mooster

3 жыл бұрын

I mean he's made a correction video

@jamariojackson4289

3 жыл бұрын

Moo Where’s the video, I’m just saying honestly haven’t seen it.

@lukeg452

3 жыл бұрын

Link

@BvngeeGvm

2 жыл бұрын

No, he hasnt.

The one he actually did was amazing damn

I love that different tricks have different names, I've skated for a long time and I feel that having different names across the globe for different tricks is just part of being creative which is what skateboardings all about, I think ghetto birds, tre flips, front K grinds all these names should live on!

thanks for the great content man, I appreciate and enjoy it very much

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! I've got lots more on the way. Thanks for the comment.

Great videos, please keep them coming. I learn something new every time

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

+Lee Entertainment Channel thanks! Will do!

I'm still boggled by how few subscribers you have, truly quality content

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah it's been slow... Tell your friends!

@All_is_self_co

4 жыл бұрын

I just subbed

@jonsno3688

3 жыл бұрын

Bullshit channel

@error.418

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonsno3688 sorry to hear about your personal problems :( one day you'll get it up

you're killin it dude!! subbed!! ghetto bird is my favorite

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'll be making lots of stuff like this in the future.

Disrespectful for you to want to take away the name of the trick. It's the Ghetto Bird and will always be the Ghetto Bird. Enjoyed the video up until that point.

@Gary-jh3wd

4 жыл бұрын

Super disrespectful - you can tell he's got a very obvious racist perspective

@Puleczech

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gary-jh3wd WTF? Racism of the gaps much?

@nessarytm6340

4 жыл бұрын

GuyWhoCameInFromtheCold how is that racism?

@PhillyTornadoSpin

4 жыл бұрын

GuyWhoCameInFromtheCold how in what way is that racist?

@sk82rok

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, usually find his videos fascinating, entertaining and very informative. This one had caught off guard a little, especially after breaking down the trick and clarifying exactly what it is.

Growing up I always called "bigger spins" "really bigspins"

Love these vids! Keep it up!

Just find your channel its as some!definitely sub,keep up the good work man!

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Jason Prisko thanks! I've got plenty more on the way

Hey man, I had a V.I.P. Working pass for Woodward back in 1996-97 for a street competition. I have a great still pic of Kareem attempting a ghetto bird in competition. Actually all 3 attempts. My job was to hand the pros drinks after their runs. If you are interested, I can send them. Obviously you don’t have to post them, but seeing the man who had so little footage and the best style to this day is really rare. Let me know. Thanks, Eric

@antoniop4914

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Did he landed?

I'd like to see a video on Crooked grinds, or K-grinds (Koston grind) was it Eric Koston who came up with them? it's always been something I have wondered. Love your videos btw!

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Good idea! I'll do some research and see if I can dig up anything interesting. Thanks for the comment!

Ghetto Bird should ALWAYS be in the official naming. That’s disrespectful as hell to try and rename it anything else that wasn’t approved by the originator of the trick.

This was a great video, congrats, man.

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

what would you call this if it was a varial instead of a hardflip with your body doing a backside 180

Interesting stuff here ... subscribed.

That's crazy, I thought it was some regular 'Reem shit he did often when I was growing up hahahaha

Hello @Rad Rat Video. I really appreciate all your work on this channel. I wasn't totally sure I agreed with your stance (pun subconsciously intended) on The Ghetto Bird. That was until I heard your last comment - about how the term should just be replaced with Hardflip 180 and so on. I feel the naming of a trick should be able to help people figure out what the trick involves, and without knowing anything about this topic, it would be natural to have no fucking idea what a "Ghetto Bird" entails. I'm probably waffling so.... yeah. Thanks for the videos. :-)

another fine video! I love watching these, you should remake some trick tips, the more popular ones Ollie, Kickflip, Treflip.

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Been planning on that actually. Just need to rest my knee for a while before I'm free to skate again.

@chimyshark

7 жыл бұрын

I just rewatched, and oh snap, my mind is BLOWN! Kareem Campbell's was actually a big spin variant, not a revert in the opposite direction!! Wow, I never realized that, it's because Tony Hawk ruined hardflips!! Kareem's nollie hardflip is backside and regular hardflips are frontside, but they BOTH pivot backside 180, so Kareem's ghetto bird really is a big spin variant. The modern ghetto bird (hardflip BS 180) only looks like Kareem's version because both hardflips were popped so vertically, it just looks like a vertical flip trick + BS 180.

@shilohGR

7 жыл бұрын

there is footage in some of those 411 europe videos of kareem doing it over a hip in england(radlands), so not just a one time wonder.

Sorry, four years late to this. He landed one over the hip at Radlands in England on a 411vm. So there is more video out there if you look.

i can see why you don't have many subs

Since it was a nollie hardflip late BS 180º that means in switch it's a hardflip late FS 180º and switch is regular just on the opposite side. So I'd say with that logic, a regular ghetto bird is a hardflip late FS 180º( or a deconstructed FS bigspin flip as you said) like you see Bo Turner and the three others do @3:26. So if we call that the ghetto bird, then what Kareem did is a nollie ghetto bird, and if he's rolling the other way it's a switch ghetto bird and if he does a fakie hardflip late fakie fs 180º it's a fakie ghetto bird. Thanks Rad Rat, I love your videos and your trick breakdowns. You really know your stuff.

I’m still calling any hardflip late 180 variation a ghetto bird, the history must be preserved. No matter how little sense it makes

This is one of my favorite videos ever. I come back time and time again Any hardflip late 180 is a feat in itself and I’m impressed by anyone that can do them in any form I look at it in the half cab sense, I wouldn’t call any Hardflip late 180 a ghettobird because I wouldn’t call any front 180 a half cab...But like I said, any Hardfip late 180 blows my mind, I can’t do them. So I can’t say don’t call it a ghetto bird Love the channel 🛹🚔🛹🚔

There is a video of Kareem doing a ghetto bird at what looks to be Radlands skate park…and then there’s the original footage we Al know of so I wanna say it’s safe to believe he for sure did it more than once

im looking forward to the murlin twist vid en you make awesome shit keep it going👍✌

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The merlin twist video should be up next week. Still watching some old skate videos to make sure I didn't miss any.

hardflip late 180, or hard flip revert is good. so what is a dragon flip?

It only looks like a frontside 180 because it was on a quarter. Imagine the same rotation but moving in the same direction after landing but on flatground.

I've seen three clips of him doing it. One at woodward, one at radlands, and one in his THPS4 part idk where at

I swear I've seen other Ghetto birds from Kareem, but you might be right for sure that he only did it once. Great vid! I love these!

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

+KaisDragonBlade if you remember where you've seen it, let me know!

1:22 aren't reverts done after the board hits the ground? Of course, it doesn't change the rotation (Some people do 360s by doing around 230 degrees and then reverting the rest.)

I think about the fact he did it on A bank because if he flew over the the ramp he would have to land switch or fakie technically so u have to catch it and go the opposite way or it would be big spin flip

I'm so glad I found this channel. Could you talk about the frontside/backside spins and which is proper for tre flips and laser flips?

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

SmellsLikeNothing you mean how nollie tre flips are technically frontside?

@SmellsLikeNothing

7 жыл бұрын

Rad Rat Video Is a 360 kickflip a tre flip regardless of a fs or bs spin?

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

+SmellsLikeNothing a 360 flip aka tre flip always looks the same, regardless of whether it's technically frontside or backside

@SmellsLikeNothing

7 жыл бұрын

Rad Rat Video Would you say one is more proper? How do you do them?

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

SmellsLikeNothing I'm not sure what you mean. One way is a 360 flip, the other way is a 360 hardflip

thanks for explaining :-) I hate confusing trick names

I landed 2 ghetto birds today. Thank Kareem for the inspiration. Going to upload to my IG also. @Keelandadd

@marcusboone4916

3 жыл бұрын

think your da playground video is tight as hell keelan you should do a demo in lincoln ne some time .

Um it does mean something its what people call helicopters in the "ghetto" but you wouldn't know 🤣🤣

That's sick

I think it was an old 411vm that had Chris Cole do one on a hip the proper Kareem way.

One of the coolest tricks ever

Lookin waaaayyyy too much into some stuff bro lmao

If you do a regular hard flip front 180 that becomes a frontside big flip because the board rotated a full 360. What makes a ghetto bird imo is you rotate opposite of the spin of the hard flip , so when Kareem did it nollie the board flips behind him so he turn his body inward , same with regular , hardflio spins behind you then you whip it in back 180 the opposite direction

@MrSimondaniel3

7 жыл бұрын

fs big flip is a heel flip. You're talking about a hard flip big spin. the hard flip -front 180 is done LATE. the 180 that is

I'm currently playing in my PC a Skating simulator that is in its beta version called Session, and the Ghetto Birds you can make there has the name as Modern Ghetto Bird, and works exactly in regular stance with an Ollie, the physics in the game let you make an "original ghetto bird" (just to name the one with nollie stance) and looks really really accurate to Kareem's but they haven't put the name Ghetto bird on it. Nice video tho.

I'd like to see a video about slappies or even the origin of casper flip/hospital flip? I also like to look at old skate setups and why sometimes they were more functional than we like to think. Cool video though, I love kareem cambell

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

I definitely want to do a casper/hospital flip one soon. I've done a little research on it, but haven't gotten down to any definitive answers yet. Thanks for the idea! I think that would make a good video too.

Really good video

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kyle!

In an interview with Hawk himself KC credits Fabian Alomar with naming the trick. Just some side info. Thanks for the vids.

Thanks for giving credit to the right person. Unlick other youtubers saying chris Chan made it or just not paying homage to kareem at all

One of the dopest tricks in the game

I saw a footage of him landing it at Radlands.

Skating should have something like TKT; a terminology where you break moves down by the peices. Tre flip would be something like 360 shuv-kick flip, fs flip would be fs180-kick flip

No, I'll keep calling it a Ghetto Bird

Ghetto bird is nollie only and he landed more than one. There’s also footage of him doing it over a hip while skating in between contest runs. Iv never seen someone so disrespectful towards the roots of skateboarding.

I just can't even understand how you begin to do this trick

Yup there's footage on KZread, search puzzle skate video episode 7 part 2 @ 5:34 he does ghetto bird over a hip at radlands comp.

@MrSimondaniel3

7 жыл бұрын

yes there is .. puzzlesk8 its in the intro too. perfect.

Feather flip in this format please

What do you mean a hard flip is already backside? A hardflip is basically a frontside flip without the body varial. That's why it's so hard because you catch it and then do a backside 180.

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Not a regular hardflip, a nollie one. The directions are opposite in nollie. The board is spinning in the same direction as the late backside 180.

Quite possibly the most aesthetic variation of the hardflip, or any trick for that matter

As the video clearly shows. The trick is a Nollie Hardflip Late 180.

@colinjohnson758

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was fakie

@phxnigtmare

4 жыл бұрын

@@colinjohnson758 karrem is regular so its nollie but fakie also counts

@bobbyworrest8183

4 жыл бұрын

@Jesse akia nollie hardflip bigspin

@orlandoguzman6345

4 жыл бұрын

Si, ese es un verdadero hardflip

What shoes was kareem wearing while doing that trick ?

I swear i seen him do it over a hip

Cool trick. Wise Man's Fear. Excellent.

He definitely did this trick more than once...

I like the name ghetto bird.. Sounds cool and way better than tricks like nerd flips.. I think we need a different name for sex changes haha

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah that and gay twists could use new names! Let's get the Olympic committee to decide on some new ones for us.

@ogloc4478

5 жыл бұрын

Sex changes have a new name it’s called the Caitlyn Jenner

@maxtowli403

5 жыл бұрын

Ur tryna kiddin , nerd flips? Tf

@elbardo5778

5 жыл бұрын

Sex changes are also called "body varial".

@livelyupmyself1

5 жыл бұрын

snotface8 a kid I played skate against recently was calling ‘em wizard flips, which is pretty funny as it’s a drug reference for tripping on LCD/Shrooms simultaneously.

The revert was half the style of the trick for me

instead of big spin flip and etc., you can say, fs big flip or bs big flip ;)

Isyour backround music from Donkey Kong Country???? If so, thank you. 😜

Sincerely hoping that the Neal Stephenson books in the background are yours and not just some literature occupying space on the bookshelf because he's pretty fantastic and I'd like to live in a world where one of the most inquistive and intelligent skaters/youtube content providers is also a fan of his works, because that truly would be rad.

I think we should name it what the inventor called it

Keep the odd names of tricks. Kinda like code names that describe more than the trick itself. Ghetto Bird has a fun origin to it describing the skater's time period and influences. Strictly naming a trick on what the board and or skater does sounds clinical, lacks creativity, and gives no homage to the creator of the trick. When I hear a crazy sounding name it grabs my attention, it makes me want to learn what it is and where it came from and what I can do with it.

Ghetto bird - Police Helicopter

Nah, fuck that, ghetto bird sounds cooler than hardflip late backside 180

HE DID IT OVER A PICNIC TABLE IN R VS D!!!!! Campball

might as well get rid of half cab also

Bro. I need help. Everyone is calling my trick a tucknee, but I remember a different name and I can't remember at all. Not Japan air either because it's in front of you with the left hand (regular) I'm talking opposite with the right hand behind you.

Show what people think a 'discoflip' should look like and then what it really is

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

What do people think it is? I've only seen it as a heelflip backside body varial.

Thumb down for renaming the trick. I think the names are part of the freedom in skate culture. Titles can float around and misconceptions exist, but no matter what there is always an unchanging unified love for skating.

Plain and simple keep the name, that is like wanting to rename the caballerial 360 fakie ollie or the Helipop a 360 nose ollie (I did that on purpose) we know the simple elements that these tricks are comprised of(and if we don’t we learn and adapt) but by eliminating names you are stripping these artists of their creativity, self expression and and their legacies and just sucking the fun right out of it honestly. 360 nollie = helipop /360 fakie ollie =caballariel nollie hardflip + FS revert = ghetto bird fakie hardflip + BS revert = fakie hardflip BS revert (if not ABD)

Kareem said a Ghetto Bird is any variation of a hardflip 180

And his ender in rvd is the regular way/ not nollie or fakie

hardflip late back 180 is wayyyyy more of a mouthful than ghetto bird, i'ma just stick with the classic

As long as everyone knows what we're talking about it shouldn't matter.

merLIN twist 4:35? MERlin twist I think it's called

Ghetto bird needs to stay it needs to be done right it’s history you shouldn’t change history

That’s defiantly not the first time he landed that trick..

do boneless/no comply/foot on ground tricks

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

You mean something like boneless vs. beanplant vs. fastplant?

@Myballshurt669

7 жыл бұрын

Rad Rat Video exactly, i see people getting things like that confused all of the time.