Damn, i never knew there was a more in depth description of what Newt's parents saw on the ship. That Jockey upper cutting the Queen's head while being impaled was freaking cool. Well done my dude

@Th0ughtf0rce

Жыл бұрын

I resent the "Engineer" we got in Prometheus and Covenant. The old expanded universe did them wayyyy better. They were neither simplistically malicious, out to get us nor incredibly dumb like what we got on screen.

@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462

Жыл бұрын

@@Th0ughtf0rce then you should hate this novel because the way I read it is that it tried to retcon the Space Jockey vessel into an Engineer vessel. There are two races. The Jockeys are the Gods of the Engineers and the Engineers are slaves to the Jockeys.

@cesaru3619

Жыл бұрын

SHORYUKEN!

@cesaru3619

Жыл бұрын

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 NO, ONE IS THE ORIGINAL VERSION, THE OTHER IS THE NEW VERSION, ST00PID!

@DarrenMoore-le6pg

21 күн бұрын

@@cesaru3619 More like “TIGER UPPERCUT!!”

Its interesting that they describe the ship as "cold, yet humid" considering when the nostromo crew entered 50 years ago it was "warm, yet tropical". Suggesting *something* was keeping it warm, but during the 50 year period, it stopped. Interesting

@CrashHeadroom

Жыл бұрын

Easy, its gone over a little bit more in the original script and other media. The world is racked with volcanos, and one just so happened to be near the derelict. Lava flow has taken out alot ofit, busted the control room looking prong and poured into some of the holds, infact you can actually see some lava flow around the derelict in the DC version of the film. By that point most of the ship's aux systems were absolutely dead or near dead so as such couldn't sustain the atmosphere anymore.

@HumanHamCube

7 ай бұрын

​@@CrashHeadroomwould explain why WY never rediscovered the craft

@CrashHeadroom

7 ай бұрын

@@HumanHamCube exactly, probably not soon after ALIENS the craft was destroyed completely, not just by the volcanos but the atmosphere prossesor blowing its top plus the weather being thrown into chaos after that due to above explosion lol. Again, if you rewatch the movie you can see the left hand prong has snapped off from the ship itself which cameron also put in his concept art... its dead XD.

@HumanHamCube

7 ай бұрын

@@CrashHeadroom in the colonial marines tech manual they explain that the craft could have been shielded from the reactor explosion by the Illium Mountain Range. *spooky*

@DarrenMoore-le6pg

21 күн бұрын

I’d expect some type of power failure to happen eventually since the derelict alien spacecraft was sitting there for perhaps thousands of years.

How did Ann get Russ out an back to the rover by herself? Especially when Kane had to be wenched up by Dallas and Lambert, not to mention the spiral staircase. Would have made more sense if they encountered an egg near the exit on the way out or maybe a loose Face Hugger followed and attacked just before they exited the U-Ship.

@pluto_rising

6 ай бұрын

My thoughts too... she carried his dead weight all the way out and back up the spiral staircase?! No way

@aniimaii

2 ай бұрын

And didn't get facehugged herself?

I enjoyed that book a lot. I completely visualized everything that Newt's parents were seeing on the derelict with both wonder and apprehension.

It'd be nice if we were able to have an official view of Ultramorphs in the derelict, I love the Alien franchise with all my heart but I wish the stories had better connections, the prequels especially. What happened to the Space Jockey and the true origin of Xenomorphs is still a mystery to be unfolded, hopefully Fox will stop milking prequel movies for profit and give us a proper story that leads up to the events of Alien. In my personal opinion, the story and motivation of Engineers lit the fire for the Alien franchise, until they decided to throw in some android that suggested it created these xenomorphs.

@BeverlyHighland

Жыл бұрын

They never said David created the xenos… He did however create the version we all know and love. Saying he created the xeno would be like you putting carrots on a hamburger and claiming that you created the hamburger.

@worstxb1playertylerteehc635

Жыл бұрын

Ridlety scott is ALIEN if you think differently you in the wrong franchise

@worstxb1playertylerteehc635

Жыл бұрын

just 10 minutes of prequel footage is far better than the whole sequel anthology. Go watch Fast and Furious.

@zacharyberridge7239

Жыл бұрын

@@BeverlyHighland no, they didn't flat out state it. They just heavily implied it. So if I grant your take, you're saying we're left with the original xeno as a creation of the engineers, but David polishing it into what we see in the original film? Yeah, still fucking stupid.

@Leondrius

Жыл бұрын

They can burn the prequels and I wouldn't care.

All I could think of when listening to the audiobook when the dad was talking was that he was essentially space Bill Burr.

Also where did the 2nd Queen come from? The one in Aliens. Did the one who burst out of Mr Jordan become a Queen like the one in Ripley in Alien 3 was going to?!

@Mr.imjussayn

Жыл бұрын

I believe that, in the absence of a Queen, one of the drones will instinctively molt, or transform, into a Queen.

I'm guessing in Alien they took another entrance into the Space Jockey ship as they didn't encounter any Xeno bodies or anything!

@israelvaldez26

Жыл бұрын

In Alien, the crew went through one of the organic looking openings of the derelict, but in Aliens Newt's parents went through damaged part of the derelict that left an opening in the ship.

@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462

Жыл бұрын

This is called a "retcon". It's bullshit. This is non-canon.

@cesaru3619

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this story seems cheaper and simplistic… the engineer shoryuken the queen! LOL

It's too bad they didn't find any dead face huggers and empty eggs. That might of given them more of a warning to AVOID those eggs at all costs. Double goes for the Nostromo crew.

like with the Space-Jockey being an Engineer in Prometheus I don't think it benefits Alien to later on add all this extra detail. just keep the Space-Jockey as an eerie, creepy thing we will never understand & shouldn't try

@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462

Жыл бұрын

@Radagast Addams You're not the only who dislikes what Scott did to the mystery of the Space Jockeys. I ignore the hell out of his Prometheus and Covenant scripts. I love the Space Jockey race, and I always thought they were a creepy, ancient malevolent race that were incredibly patient and smart. I like to think they're definitely aware of us, the Predators, and the Engineers, their children who turned on them, and they're watching and waiting for a chance to reappear and wipe all life out.

Well this was pretty good and I really like this theory on what happen before Alien 2 with newt Also hope y'all are having a good day

Well, thats a comic explanation but that isn't the official film one lol What they found inside was a near dead ship, most of its systems destroyed by various volcanic flows ((hell you can even see some in the DC cut of the film near the ship)). The atmosphere inside changed due to those systems dead or near death annnnnd they quite litterally just found what was found in the first film. So yeah, they found the Nostromo crews' equipment, various lava damage and what was left of the eggs, as lava flows had also poured into some of those chambers.

This is when you're hoping that their 6th sense would have kicked in, but no!!!

I love videos like this thanks for making this video your content is entertaining to watch

So many of the novels are head cannon for me.

Facehugger.. they found a facehugger in there...

Hope the next movie would be this 😜

Man I wish they adopt this as a short film sounds good too imagine what happened to space jockey ship landed on the planet Is an arrest of the Crow

@Leondrius

Жыл бұрын

I've always been saying they should make Newt's Tale into Alien Isolation 2. This could be the opening sequence.

@jasonsantos3037

Жыл бұрын

@@Leondrius agree

Wow.

This would certainly tie in to Ridley Scott's theme of the Engineers, featured in Promepheus, the prequel to the Alien films. Alien Awakening, is the third prequel to come after Alien Covenant, which everybody is hoping that the Engineers will make a comeback, will further explain & hopefully show a big battle between the Aliens we all know & the Engineers from Promepheus. Great video, I watched the very first Aliens when I was little & was very scared by the face huggers, watched almost every single Alien movie, I am so interested to see where the newer movies tie into the whole Alien series of films. 👏👏👍👍

I still hate the humanlike "Engineers", I prefer the idea that Space Jockeys and "Engineers" are separate races. The "Engineers" could be a past subservient race used for labor by the Space Jockeys, with the others rebelling against them and possibly stealing or mimicking the technology of the Space Jockeys to wage war against them. The idea that the Xenomorphs being created by either the "Engineers" or the Space Jockeys is also asinine. Dan O'Bannon's original idea that the Xenomorphs were an extinct race survived only by their eggs and discovered by the Space Jockeys is more interesting and deadly. It gives a sense that the universe is indeed large and mostly mysterious. If combining the now used "Engineers" as part of the lines, these could had stolen scientific DNA experiments done to the discovered Alien eggs, such as the "Magical" Black Snot from PROMETHEUS and COVENANT. The only thing I have against this idea is that the stupid Black Goo is an unoriginal idea first used on the SPECIES movies and the first X-FILES movie. Having the Space Jockeys be their own intended alien race and giving a space to the crappy "Engineers" would at least give more stuff, the problem I have with the latter is that they make the universe too small and humans too much importance in the overall picture of the Universe instead of stumbling on something completely mysterious in Space that could bring the extinction of the human race.

@spaceyzane9275

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone nails it. The galaxy is vast. I’ve always imagined that the xenomorphs are like the borg from Star Trek when the enterprise first encounter them. Woefully unprepared and massively outgunned, they had to rely on Q to save them. Way better of a concept than, Engineers creates man, man creates android, android creates xenomorph, xenomorph kills man.

@EternalRoman

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceyzane9275 Thanks, I've been a firm Dan O'Bannon defender, especially since HE was the actual creator of ALIEN. There's a long history with how they treated him and tried to steal his creator rights to it and all of the garbage that they tried to push in the original. The stupid crap you've seen in the recent Ridley Scott's garbage films is all of that, and you're so lucky that they haven't added the time travel BS that they also intended to add in the original ALIEN. And here is a kicker, in the movie THE PREDATOR by Shane Black, they have a deleted end credits scene where Ripley and an adult Newt were in a stasis pod that the Predator had. The actresses had breathing masks that resembled Facehuggers and everything. So yeah, they're still crapping on Dan O'Bannon's creation, and Ridley Scott is in the forefront of this BS.

@spaceyzane9275

Жыл бұрын

@@EternalRoman interesting. I’ve been recently getting into this franchise, as I never gave these films a fair shake growing up, not into horror. But they are well grounded in believability. I prefer James Cameron aliens simply because he created more lore that’s easy to imagine more story lines can be used with, unfortunately no one has used it well since then.

@EternalRoman

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceyzane9275 I like James Cameron's ALIENS mainly cause he expanded the mythos by respecting the source material. ALIEN 3 for me was a good ending for the Ripley character, and it was nihilistic in the sense as O'Bannon had portrayed in his original story, that the universe overall does not see the humans species as important in the overall picture. This was his way of injecting one of his inspirations when he wrote ALIEN which was H.P. Lovecraft, the author that also H.R. Giger was a fan of. ALIEN was intended to show that the universe is vast, mysterious, unfriendly territory and that not all knowledge is good, that some things are better be left alone because there are older darker things in the black void of space that could bring the end of life if disturbed or uncovered. That was Ripley's sacrifice at the End of ALIEN 3 to avoid the extinction of humanity for their own hubris in meddling with crap they shouldn't have been since the first time. When you imagine looking at the stars and see them in the distance, imagine yourself as another being, would you care for a company's greed in another world? That is how insignificant the human species is to the universe and that is the damned problem with Ridley Scott crapping on the ALIEN franchise.

@spaceyzane9275

Жыл бұрын

@@EternalRoman I can appreciate that kind of message however I don’t think alien 3 should have been in the setting it was in. Should have featured newt and hicks, as a way to keep ripley’s legacy sort of speak. And the prison background with characters that were never memorable doesn’t help either. But I do like the idea of it’s ending with her sacrificing herself for the betterment of mankind.

The father, pressing his wife forward to explore in to the derelict, and with young children waiting back in the vehicle, was completely reckless. Driven by greed to abandon caution, as humans often are. Aside from dad’s complete disregard for his family safety, Burke sending them out there without giving them any warning of the possible danger just reflects more greed. To warn them may have prevented them from going at all. Burke’s greed driven disregard for human life wasn’t going to let him risk that poossibilty.

You should change yout title from "What Newts Parents Found" to "What Newt's Parents Found"

My theory is David is responsible for all that

@Inyourhideyhole

8 ай бұрын

My guess as well

After watching alien many times, the scale is all wrong within the derelict ship, and the outside? its more in keeping with the original temple with a ship crashed into it. when he absails into the egg chamber is way bigger than the ship.

@robbarnes3507

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. If the location of the egg chamber where Kane got FHed was the lower deck of the U-Ship, then the matt painting behind the eggs is way off scale to the remainder of the U-Ship. OTOH, if it were a hole in the bottom of the U-Ship that Kane descended down from and into a cave it would have looked much better just to show a large cave and not the twists and turns which resemble the U shape. When we see a U-ship land and fall on Vickers in Prometheus (assuming that U-Ship was the same size as the one in Alien) then scale wise the eggs were in fact in a cave beneath the U-Ship in Alien and not the U-Ships lower deck.

Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha it's a movie.... good, but still a movie.

Yeah no. The Derelict belongs to the Jockeys. It is the same ship we see in Alien. What this book tried to do (I know what this is from, the ripley trilogy) is retcon the derelict into an Engineer vessel. Not buying it. There was one corpse in the Jockey derelict. And everything in Alien lore except this book has acknowledged that. The pilot is the only occupant of his ship.

@jotr.9786

Жыл бұрын

Actually the eggs from the derelict should have in a dome but they cut the scenes due to constraints, from what i know.

@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462

Жыл бұрын

@@jotr.9786 Pyramid, actually. They ended up merging both pyramid and derelict together. I honestly believe the Derelict crashed millions of years ago or it automatically landed once the occupant died after setting up the distress signal. I also believe there is something buried under the derelict, like it was carrying a massive cargo container. But dust, dirt and storms buried it.

@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462

Жыл бұрын

@Weyland Punani Yeah OK. Whatevs.

@andreilukyanov4286

Жыл бұрын

Agree. The Space Jockey which had given birth to an Alien, eggs, and that’s it.

They saw... Yo Mama! 😜

Books & comics don't count.

Cameron turned this into a real shit movie.