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@christophersavignon4191

7 ай бұрын

I think you're wrong about people always finding ways to cheat and then doing it all the time. For one, cheating isn't possible in a video game unless you hack it or it is bugged. At most, you can exploit the system you're given. However, exploiting the system is just a misnomer that mischaracterizes the very essence of what games are about: Learning how the game works and using those mechanics to your advantage. Game devs really need to stop confusing successful play with cheating. Accept that your ego is irrelevant, your wisdom is not infinite and some players will beat your game in ways you didn't expect. Don't cry foul if they won by your own rules, and don't go back on your own rules because you don't like the score. Instead, find ways to maintain a challenge for those players without gainsaying or destroying the success they earned. After all, that's what it usually boils down to when devs talk about exploits: Limiting player agency and taking away success instead of making the effort to balance for a diverse range of players with varying levels of skill and ingenuity.

I'm absolutely loving these "less tangible" topics that explore theory, design, and structure!

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

I'm loving that you're loving them! There's plenty more to come in this series ^_^

@leafynar3256

Жыл бұрын

@@MyGameDevPal what was the snow bording game at the begining of the vidio

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

@@leafynar3256 linked in the pinned comment!

"A Theory of Fun" 6 patterns in games and how they map to MDA (Mechanics, Dynamics, Aesthetics): 2:19 1. Calculation of odds and prediction of events => Challenge 2:38 2. Social Status => Competition (Extra credit's version) 3:07 3. Spatial Reasoning => Challenge 3:17 4. Memory => Challenge 3:25 5. Visceral Responses => Sensation 3:33 6. Teamwork => Fellowship 6:39 3 core questions: 1. What is the core lesson your game teaches? 2. How does your game keep itself interesting? 3. At what point will your game get boring?

@Casedilla73

3 ай бұрын

What does he mean by core lesson?

@SkySpiral7_Lets_play

2 ай бұрын

@@Casedilla73 I assume he means how to play the game. What does ideal gameplay look like and how does your game lead players to it?

@frameofshadow

Ай бұрын

Or what skills to train while playing the game

@frameofshadow

Ай бұрын

for example thinking ahead or having quick reaction

I was coming to the point where I felt the game I'm working on was pretty close to artistically and mechanically complete.... Then I asked myself "but is it fun?" Now I'm realizing my game lacks structure, risk and reward, and a satisfying loop - so it's back to the design stage! Great video as always Ori :), and perfect timing no less!

@titanseek3r759

2 жыл бұрын

I do also want to add, and this is something that I learned from talking to other game devs: the concept of "this mechanic can be broken/exploited and therefore is bad" In a multiplayer game, absolutely - this can lead to really frustrating situations where your opponent has clipped through the map and is super safe... But in a single player game "this can be exploited" or "this can be broken" shouldn't always be seen as a negative. People will always play the game the way they enjoy it the most, even if that isn't the intended method. Think Oblivion and it's hilariously exploitable AI, or Elden Ring with it's 'it's really hard but you can kind of cheese the boss by doing this right here'. The way these games can be exploited doesn't always lead to less fun. In some cases - it leads to more fun. In my case, sure, players can exploit the fact that the main mechanic isn't 100% necessary to play the game and instead just sweep the area while mashing the X button until something happens, and if they want to play that way? more power to them. If they find enjoyment in that, that's great! If not, they simply won't play that way because they aren't forced to play the game in the first place I just thought this was an interesting topic to talk about seeing how fun is the topic for this video :) Can't wait to see the next one!

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, i'm glad our timings are in sync! Looking forward to seeing your answers to the questions I asked ;)

@Vik1919

Жыл бұрын

@@titanseek3r759 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Playing single-player should only be played your own way because it's single-player for a reason. You don't have to bend yourself to others. I am looking forward to what kind of game you are making.

@jasomega2446

11 ай бұрын

@@Vik1919Well Said

@kingoietro99

8 ай бұрын

​@@titanseek3r759This doesnt apply to all types of gamers. More expert and older players tends to like structured systems without broken things. The problem arise if you manage to know how to win early with a non intended mechanic, but that non intended route is not intrinsically fun to hold you there

Your point of stripping the game down to it's core gameplay to determine whether or not it's fun is really interesting! this is such a helpful video, thank you!

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found this interesting!

"Games are fun when they teach players to learn patterns which match their personal interests at a good place without providing ways to cheat." Thank you for making this video, I'm using this quote for my Uni project. I've watched the full video and it's amazing the effort you've put in. Keep it up.

@bradleystites

7 ай бұрын

I agree, mostly. Except even cheating at games using built-in systems can also be fun. Like mods in single-player games like fallout 4.

0:14-Fun is a boast of dopamine that we get when we learn something new 0:38-Learning in games is different as it provides us with an environment where we can freely learn without bearing the consequences of our actions 1:16- 1:56- 2:18:1st Category 2:41-2nd Category: Social Status 3:05-3rd Category: Spatial Reasoning 3:18-4th Category Memory Reasoning 3:24-5th Category Visceral Reasoning 3:34-6th Category Teamwork 3:58-Game Mechanics 4:02-Gamplay Paradigm 4:12- 5:27- 6:23- 6:40-

Super high quality video for a channel this size! Great stuff!

Perfect video! However, while it might be true for most games that removing everything (SFX, story, etc) and checking the game itself, its core, whether or not it's fun, is the ultimate test, there are Telltale games (as well as Quantic Dreams, Supermassive Games, etc.) where there is minimal gameplay, and the fun is the story. Without the story, there is no game. There is a little bit of exploration, but what motivates us to play those games (and what makes it fun), is that we want to know more about the story, and, when we are so engaged, we want the best outcome for our character (and their entourage). The game would then fall into the category of "Calculation of Odds and Predictions of Events". With the information we have about the game, and what other characters told us (and our exploration within this world), when we want to make a choice (which character to kill in the game, to hide from someone or run away, sacrifice a friend or sacrifice yourself), and to make that choice, we use what we know previously to calculate odds and predict the game's next events so that we have the best outcome. I think it is also fun because it teaches us about real life; it's, as you said, a simulation, and a pattern recognition that we learn about in games, without having to go through it in real life. Making those choices offers a challenge (putting aside desire for mastery) and can help us navigate life better or helping our community better (to a certain extent). That's how I feel about story games, where it's focused on our choices having consequences and very little gameplay (again, like Telltale's Batman, Walking Dead, or Supermassive's Devil In Me or House Of Ashes, or Quantic Dreams' Detroit Become Human). Of course, there is the element of fun, which is living a story, which is, I believe, the same fun we get from movies [suspense/humour/feeling emotions/learning about others/identifying ourselves through others in a story), but more (because we are in the game). -Ziad G

@wildblack1

7 ай бұрын

I very much agree. I also made a comment with a similar idea. Pure gameplay is not always the core of what makes a game fun. If it was, then watching movies wouldn't be fun.

@nobleshopper465

7 ай бұрын

@@wildblack1 Exactly, thank you! I am lost in life right now, but I am trying to work with a professor to develop a game, combining those elements, that can help people in a specific area. With me luck, haha!

@wildblack1

7 ай бұрын

@@nobleshopper465 Good luck with the game. Hope you do well.

Congratulations for the content, you managed to synthesize well what was extremely useful.

This guy is so underrated, great video! I liked the fact that you explained the video for people who don't know stuff about designing games. I was actually wondering about the stuff you talked about in this video recently. I can see your channel growing, and you'll hopefully get far with the channel sometime in the soon.

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Thank you so much for your kind words, I hope so too 🙏

@KekoahJones

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyGameDevPal also thank you because I'm trying to make an indie game and had a good story just couldn't seem to think of what would make it fun, thanks for helping me out

This video was extremely helpful, especially to a beginner who just recently decided she wants to start a video game. I know I have a lot to learn, and taking into account all the points you have listed will really help me in the long run. I always knew variety is an important factor when it comes to video games, but I never thought of it in depth like this. It's really eye-opening. I love this video!!

I am currently working an a mobile gallery shooter, and here are my answers to your question atm. 1. The Core Lesson? Balancing the decision to attack an enemy, duck an incoming threat, and/or reload for a player buff. 2. Keeps Interest? As you progress, you will find bullet types that can be loaded in a certain order in the magazine. These bullets will provide the player that buff when the weapon is reloaded after firing the round. Choosing to end a run without dying allows you to take these bullets into the next run. If the player dies they will lose the custom bullets and will need to rebuild their collection the next run. A small set a base bullet buffs are not lost to allow players to incrementally gain power, similar to mechanics in roguelites. 3. Game grows Boring? When the player has learned all the patterns of the enemy AI, when the player has obtained their favorite bullet buffs and mastered the gameplay loop, and when the player has experiences all the unique bullet buffs and small room arena's that the game becomes repetitive. I do have some other ideas to provide more interest into a game genre that has heavily stagnated over the years, given that the format essentially rips away the movement aspect of a shooter. But given your point that a game needs to be fun in its purest form with no audio/visual enhancements, I am only focusing on what I consider to be the core game for my audience at the surface. That is to say that I have focused these answers only on the gallery shooter portion of my game, as that portion of the game will need to instill fun in players even if they never progress out of the gallery shooter. If my game is not fun on those merits, then there isn't really a purpose of packaging an expansion into a more traditional PvE FPS game to be discovered by the player. I also am aware I am riding very close to the line when I have trouble concisely describing my game in a sentence, which is typically a sign of a poor game from a game design perspective. But I am going to ignore that red flag and keep pushing forward :D Great video btw, keep up the good work!

@michaelhunt9717

Жыл бұрын

When can I play it?

What an amazing video, I've never seen anyone explain fun this way. Keep it up!

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you for your kind words 🙏

The main problem with "theories of fun" is that these fit into pre-scientific methods: "I think of a reasonable explanation, it seems to cover all the cases, therefore it must be true". Theories should be tested, and I don't know how much testing various theories of fun have actually received. I respect Raph Koster a lot, but this is straight into the same murky area as theory of consciousness in the first place.

You have a very great way of storytelling. Thank you for this great video and I hope more will come in the future, subbed!

So much amazing information in one video. Thank you for sharing!

underrated video just WOW you described all those feelings i felt in a video that i couldnt put into words until today. Thank you! Hope you reach your deserved fame!

Criminally underrated channel and video, keep it up

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, I plan on it! ;)

BEEN ,looking for video like this for a long time ,Thanks for the incredible thoughts

Awesome video. Thank you! I am using placeholder art and still trying to get all the game mechanics working but hopefully it will be fun once I do 😊

I am currently creating a game via a discord bot My game is a modified version of rock paper scissors with more options and other crazy cards I started creating it 2 days ago Now I awnser the questions: 1. You need to think about what your opponent(s) play and therefore play your best choice 2. I think adding more cards to the game and playing it every now and then with your friends. Exploring what every card can do one by one 3. When I run out of ideas for cards to make or if it feels too repetetive for a player

That last bit about see if your game is fun without any aesthetics was a great piece of advice. Idk much about video game design but in TCGs I think it’s a good start to see if your card game is fun. Thanks for the help I’m going to read that book you mentioned as well.

This video is awesome. First time ever watching a video from you, and I'm already subscribed. Thanks for the great info.

Looking forward to the video including beautiful ascetics and visual effects. keep up the good work!

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words 🙏

Excellent insight on this one, thank you!

6:51 I love YOU! ❤ Great video!

Thank you for making this. This was a fun video because I learned something new. I guess now I can explain clearly to other people why video games are fun or what makes a good video game. The fact that different games will appeal to different people is exactly why we should not care about whether someone likes a game or not because even if it is good, it just might not be their cup of tea. That's why I often judge games for myself and found out which categories I like. You can also develop an interest for more categories, I certainly have.

This video is amazing, gave me some good ideas for the project I'm working on.

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words 🙏Glad I could help!

I’ll bear these points in mind as I’m progressing with my game. Good video! Tu and Sub. Getting closer to sorting out my game loop after putting in lots of different ideas.

I remember playing a business simulator game for MS DOS. It lacked story, graphics and music, yet was one of the best games I ever enjoyed. Although I think, that there are games that are fun mainly due to vibe they give, rather than some game mechanic. The purest example of this are visual novels and games that simulate some life experience.

My new fav game Dev teacher on KZread

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Glad you’re enjoying my content!

Great topic, I loved the video!

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi love your story i just subscribe congrats on 2k

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's insane that we're on almost 6k now only 2 weeks later...

Banger video dude, Keep it up!

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Will do 🙏

Grear vid. I hope it will help my game to one day be finished

Great video! What's the snowboarding game, and what's the last game with the woman walking with a sword? Thanks

Thank you for helpful video, Pal!

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I loved this video Even though I quit gamedev for good, it was such a enjoyable content to watch. Thanks

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Well written narration

Very interesting video, however I would love to see more slides for clarity, or have you speak a little slower, as it’s hard to grasp a concept before you’ve already moved to the next one. Great theme to explore though!

can you tell me what is the game in 1:55 it looks great

What is that snowboard game that was being shown?

Thanks!

Nice video keep up 👏

awesome as always

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

No u

What is the game at 3:17 and 5:15? Thanks for this! Showed my coding club students this and we found it very inspiring!

He's so smart he got me to smile by the sound of the xbox achievement noise.

4:11 you dont take the king, you put the king into check and if the king cant get out of check then its checkmate

What category do the sandbox, city builders and tycoons fall into? Are these considered as puzzles?

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they're all considered as puzzle games :)

0:05 0:15 0:37 0:54 1:03 1:11 1:28 I See 1:55 2:18 2:39 3:05 3:18 3:25 3:34 3:52 Well Said 4:33 4:56 THANK YOU

Hey! I just wanted to say that this was a really good take on psychology in the game world, and makes me think about aspects of game design that I haven't considered. I am creating a document for myself, as I am currently self teaching game development, and I have added your video as a reference in my study. So thank you very much! I just wanted to say one thing, 06:23 I can't help but disagree with "no amount of features will make it fun". I was thinking of guitar hero (beat saber or OSU), one of the (previously) most popular music emulation games out there. I just can't imagine the game being even remotely fun without the music. Perhaps you are onto something though, it's probably more accurate to say something along the lines of "no amount of features outside the concepts that make games fun, will add more fun to the game" Guitar hero uses the music in the game to turn the simple task of pressing a button on a stick in accordance to buttons sliding on a platform, into a visceral response. You feel and hear the music being played when you hit the right notes, and when you mess it up, you hear the god awful guitar thud through the speaker. With that being said, this was a well put together video, and has really provoked a new train of thought for me. I look forward to checking out your other content. You gained a subscriber!

What's the game at 5:29?

Thanks for the video, in general I agree but what about narrative games like date simulators or mystery games like heavy rain. Strip those games from story and they become

@mbouslama

5 ай бұрын

I thought maybe those games fell under visceral responses (seeing as these responses occur when we feel strong emotion). Then the story serves a completely different purpose, because the game is in itself the story. In simpler terms, the game is about building/uncovering a story, and it's fun because as the player, you strive to get the story to move in a direction that triggers certain emotions within you. With all that said, it's just a theory, and I'd look forward to know what you think about it.

this is gold

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you think so! 🙏

Greate video :)

Excellent video

@MyGameDevPal

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Which game is shown at 1:55? It looks interesting, like snowboarding with animals?

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Hey mate, it’s called “slopecrashers”, there’s a link in the description!

@TacticalTypos

Жыл бұрын

​@@MyGameDevPalOh, strange, I don't see a link about it in the description. But thanks, I'll check it out!

Great!

Thanks, but i don't understand how to play the game without graphics, what do you mean by that ?

@MyGameDevPal

5 ай бұрын

The game should be fun using blockout art (i.e no fancy graphics) or if it’s strategic, then possibly even on pen and paper.

@Irregularjzk

2 ай бұрын

@@MyGameDevPal For most people the better word would possibly be User Interfaces cuz maybe they take graphics as the literal game itself (all the things that are visible to eye)

itd be cool to deliberately make life more fun by using these principles

I'm a game dev as well an I love the idea of lethal company it has so many possibilities and hacks aren't really fun unless you like seeing kids cry everyday.

The Mario Effect is something education can learn from to help teach us better

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Yep... I'm thinking the current education system will be stripped out within the next 75 years... well, hoping more than thinking...

For my game personally, i think it is a good bit of fun because it makes you feel like a badass from the 1st second yoh play, but this is also a disadvantage because i feel that its hard to raise the experience if you already start off having fun

The presentation is good (but the volume needs to be much higher). I hadn't heard of "A Theory of Fun" but unfortunately it seems to be an inferior version of "MDA: A Formal Approach to Game Design and Game Research" which better covers all games aesthetics (Mechanics/Dynamics are infinite). Nicely explained in Extra Credit's "Aesthetics of Play" and the list is: Sensation, Fantasy, Narrative, Challenge, Fellowship, Competition (EC added), Discovery, Expression, Leisure (called Abnegation or Submission). Link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5mko6xmotSwe6Q.html As an easy example of the limitation of "A Theory of Fun" is that Final Fantasy 7 (original) has none of the 6 patterns but does have aesthetics: Fantasy, Narrative, Expression, Discovery, Challenge, Leisure. 4:12 "The Holy grail is a game that provides never ending challenges, requires a wide range of skill to succeed, and has a difficulty curve that perfectly adjusts to the player's skill level over time." So math would qualify lol. But seriously: this is a great statement and I'll think about it. A weakness of the statement is that it lacks the aesthetic of leisure: even if a player is making slow progress, at a certain point the high difficulty will make it too much work to bother with. 0:36 the same statement applies for design "designed to enjoy for the sake of survival". This isn't evidence for evolution but I admit it'd be hard to word that statement fully neutrally and it is just a quick joke. And obviously your opinion on this is irrelevant to the video's topic. 1:08 that sounds like an argument against perma-death or other very high stakes games. 1:12 not sure if that's an intentional dig against Ori but I would've used Desert Bus as a backdrop here. 1:19 fun fact: babies actually do learn (a minimal amount) before birth. Specifically, the ability to recognize parent's voices. 1:50 a game of tic-tac-toe with X playing perfectly. O didn't play perfectly because it should've started in the middle (which would result in a cat's game) 2:04 objection: providing an easy way is good design (to avoid being too hard). Boredom is when a player makes a game too easy in which case, they'll (if possible) make it harder again. 2:17 same statement: "for survival" would be the neutral way to word it. 2:26 or Black jack: a push your luck game with simple odds 3:11 mmmm. Delicious platforming. I want some but I don't know what game it is. 4:55 if we keep getting "the same but slightly better" then we'll slowly end up in a great place. Also a story line and learning the specifics (like level layout) can still make a completely unoriginal game fun even if it is only played once. 6:35 that only applies to some but not every aesthetic. You should look up MDA 6:47 I'm guessing that's going into depth on your question 2 "How does your game keep itself interesting?" and I'd like to see that video but it doesn't exist.

Great video

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

1. Teamwork and having fun like those nostalgic good ol games, like pixel gun 3D! 2. Playing with your friends will make it interesting in many ways, it'll have no boundaries except your enemies, you can explore, do whatever you want, go on adventures to find Easter eggs, and defeat your enemies from those secret places! 3. It doesn't, except when you play it too much, like, really really too much, for like... 4 continuous days Extra. My game doesn't have the equality border, and what I mean by that is, look at fortnite, and every game like it, they give you a chance to be equal with your enemies, they don't randomize the chances of you getting something till the point where you could get 10 ammo in a rare chest or whatever, they will atleast give you 2 weapons and alot of ammo and materials when you open the worst chest there is, why was fortnite good? Well, you couldn't get weapons that easily, and it was fun running away from people while screaming for your dumb friends help, and you didn't die easily, because that dudes aim was bad, and if you were that dude, then you'd scream happily because you're thinking rhat you're gonna get him and kill him, in my game, the controls are good but because it's for mobile, it'll be a bit harder to aim, and more fun, it'll give you that noob feel, and guns and ammo will be randomly distributed in the whole map, so your enemy may get the best weapons, and you may get the worst weapon of all, or you may even not get one at all, and the fun in it is that it's controls are not heavy, it's fast, smooth, but balanced, so you can run away from the people shooting you, and because the controls don't feel heavy, you'd be stealthy, you can hide in one of these secret places, not the ones where everyone knows, but the ones where not so many people go to, even if they know the place, and there wouldn't be so little or so many secret places, it's not even a secret place, it's a known place, but feels out of boundaries, just like the clouds in pixel gun 3D, you'd get that happy feeling, why? Well because you can run away, hide from your enemies, get a pistol and demolish them, the best thing is that even if you have the best gun you'd need to aim good and aiming good in a mobile game is hard, but it's gonna be fun, I can't explain it but my game is gonna be nostalgic.

Underated.

Where I have the most fun in a videogame, there's chaos.

“This category has many applications in real life where you need to weigh the risks against the rewards, such as going to college, or going straight to work.” 😩

I wish I had game designer skills, so I could use my programming and 3d skills to make a game.

*I think overall, Unpredictability transfers into Fun. the more unpredictable a game is, the more it draws an interest and curiosity from the player. the best thing about unpredictability is its different in every genre. RPG fun is different than Racing fun. Sports fun is different than Graphic Novel fun. you have to really pick a genre and MASTER its unpredictability....so if you're working on a multi-genre project, you should REALLY take your time* 🙏

Good Video, Just needed to drop a comment

Nice video, but imagine playing the original Resident Evil with no sfx, music, graphics or story.

that was the best video for game dev i ever saw in my life.

Drinking game: take a shot every time you hear "however" in this video.

Sorry for writing this in advance I’m very intoxicated: 1. Our life is finite. No amount of upgrades or preparation will stop us from death 2. Every run is unique. Like a casino everyone wants to keep rolling until they get something they think they can beat death with 3. When the player has explored everyone option and every combination they will get bored

Nice and explanetory video! I searched for content like this and was not disappointed =) I am an amature coder, building a turn based Stategy Space survival game in python - SpaceCraft'er. I have tons of ideas, what i want the game to be, but must climb the "learn to code" moutain, one centimeter at time. I will take on your challange and Answer your three Questions: 1) The core lesson is to teach economics, return on investement and risk manegement. 2) the game keeps itself interesting by: Advancing of mechanics, as the game goes on. Combat will get increased number of choices. Mining and crafting will have to be estimated if it is worth the time investment, with over time, more things to consider. And quests will have tu be estimated by the player, if they are worth taking up. 3) The game will become boring if: The patterns become to recgnisable, or if players are not into economic, strategic, thinking at all.

How you going on that book on woman?

7）join/enjoy a story

now i get it why monster hunter is fun, because the game has all of these categories. calculation odds = unpredictable rewards social status = equip a rare armor teamwork = u can set traps and using strategy with u friends how to beat the monsters visceral response = when u get killed by monsters, because sometimes its hard memory = recalling the moveset of each weapons to make a great combo moves spatial reasoning = remembering and read the monster's pattern and moveset so u won't get hit

What even is this background music?

0:46 ooooh but what about UNDERTALE?

Very pog video 👍🏻

@MyGameDevPal

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

yo, this vid was beautiful 😎 thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge, i was looking for EXACTLY this typa shit. im planning on making a road trip game and i wondered whether itll be fun or not and ig variation was the key from the beginning on. i LOVE variation in videogames and i often see it lacking here n there, so my game will have variation as the number 1 priority 😎 how? simple. by obv adding more things, and adding rare events or whatever. if u for example set the spawnrate of a structure to a low rate, it will have 2 effects, 1. itll become special, no matter what the structure is and whether it can be looted or sth and 2. the player will always have the feeling that theres still sth to explore and to see, the feeling of an empty world is reduced 😎 peace, stay chillin, again thx for this vid, also thx for reading my comment till here, it got kinda long, and its still getting longer with each mf word im adding 💀 yea i should rly stop now. like, right no- fuck am i doing here 😂 peace yo 😎

4:40 is this a real game??

@MyGameDevPal

Жыл бұрын

No, it's a motion graphic sim, you should make it ;)

😎😎👌👌

3:01 "How many times has a friend made a joke at your expense stating that their rank is higher than yours?" That's not a friend, that's an egocentric jerk calling himself a friend. If he really was your friend, he wouldn't make fun of you. 4:27 "Competitive gamea provides infinite amount of challenges" Correction: Infinite amount of stress, toxicity and hostility for a limited amount of long time

the point near the end is wrong, removing all the graphics is staring at a plain screen, and removing all of the story could involve removing gameplay changing sections of the game

@TwiztOndaBeat

4 ай бұрын

A pretty game that sucks is still a sucky game.. But a great game that looks nice in an immersive world is an amazing experience. The graphics, music and story is second priority behind game design. Thats the point

@brinax8540

3 ай бұрын

If you cut down any game to 0s and 1s they aren't fun anymore

@rod0fdiscord

3 ай бұрын

@@brinax8540 yeah, but you don't need to strip the graphics and story down to binary on a grid to ruin the experience of an otherwise great game. some more minor changes can totally interfere with the game experience as a whole.

@avespooky

2 ай бұрын

at what age did u get diagnosed with autism?

@rod0fdiscord

2 ай бұрын

@@avespooky bold of you to assume i was old enough to remember

You can't necessarily strip a game down to raw gameplay to see if it's fun or not, and then treat graphics, sound, etc. as bonuses. That's great if your game is still fun as a graybox experience. But lots of good games won't be. In particular, lots of games need audio and visual cues to communicate the gameplay to the player. But beyond that, whole genres of games, like role-playing, require these non-gameplay elements (particularly story, even in paper RPGs) to keep players invested. Play a great action game like Sekiro without sound, and you lose mood-setting music and the rewarding sound of weapons clashing when you parry. The Super Mario World coin pickup sound is iconic for a good reason. Just the opening title screen of classic Final Fantasy games plays the scale theme...the list goes on.

@nashk935

8 ай бұрын

You're missing the point

@wildblack1

7 ай бұрын

@@nashk935 No, their refuting the point.

In chess, you can't take your opponent's king.

i was playing ow lmwo but yeah this is real

Don't care about team work or the social part. A game is fun when one can explore with good power ups and enjoyable normal difficulty and when doesn't have artificial difficulty or artificial padding (botw have both, terrible padding, artificial difficulty, and a mediocre gameplay with boring gimmicks).

@quentinsmith1361

7 ай бұрын

Me too

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How can anyone make a "video" game without Graphics, Music, Sound FX, or Story? What's the trick here?

I disagree with some of what you said but overall an okay video, not worth a sub tho as this subject could be talked about for a lot longer.

@MyGameDevPal

6 ай бұрын

That’s fair enough mate, thanks for giving it a go! Appreciate the feedback 🙏🏼

gonna try answer the questions; 1- my game little game teach you programming and creativity but with constraints. 2- introduce new mechanics each time through level pacing and storylines. and probably give the players some freedom on how the game plays and manipulate their own settings. 3- hopefully not until the end , after that I will make the player choices of endless levels get to the top of high scores board or perhaps through content creation and modding I'm emphasising on nostalgia theme to get the player attention for my game,if they judge on game mechanic or based on other criteria GG my audience targets is probably old and it's hard to reach out to them but hopefully making a good trailer and marketing strategies .(although I'm skeptical about performance I make it for myself)

0:47 bro 😂😂😂😂 that was fucking perfect LOL

Me a bad elden ring player: fun???

why are casual relaxed games like stardew valley are fun then.

@MyGameDevPal

7 ай бұрын

This question deserves its own video, but my quick personal answer is that I always dreamed about retiring on my own farm, stardew let’s me do that now 😅☀️

@dzaroool

7 ай бұрын

@@MyGameDevPal but I don’t think all who enjoys stardew valley dreamed of becoming farmers. I feel like, seeing progress is what makes us feel driven. The results of our progress. In real life, we have to put in more effort to see the results. Just my thoughts😆

@MyGameDevPal

7 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you on that, as I said, stardew valley deserves its own video, it’s a masterpiece. I personally just like farming 😅 my favourite board game is viticulture.