There are differences between Dragons and Wyverns and Drakes and Hydras and so on and on, but here I'm talking about what the normal cinematic audience would consider a dragon. The distinction isn't at all often noted in films, and most simply consider all of these creatures to be dragons.

@AtlasBlizzard

6 жыл бұрын

Rossatron That sucks 'cause most cinematic dragons now are all turned into wyverns. I hate that.

@Vulcanfaux

6 жыл бұрын

Only reason I know the difference is actually because of a video game series. Monster hunter.

@red43rumbl37

6 жыл бұрын

VulcanFaux lol same

@KroegerFan44

6 жыл бұрын

SethBlizzard I know, right? It's frustrating to see wyverns all but completely take over media's already limited space for dragons.

@KroegerFan44

6 жыл бұрын

/X/EN Oh, but that's not an unpopular opinion. In fact, that's an opinion shared by the majority and is born from ignorance or the butthurt feelings of a person who found out their favorite media's dragon was actually a wyvern.

About the whole "wyvern vs dragon" debate, think of it this way: "Dragon" refers to the category in general. In heraldry, dragons are differentiated by basic body type: A dragon with 4 legs and 2 wings is just called a dragon, because in English it doesn't have a more specific name. A dragon with 4 legs but no wings is sometimes called a drake. A dragon with 2 legs and 2 wings is called a wyvern. A dragon with 2 legs and no wings is called a lindorm. A dragon with no legs but 2 wings is called an amphitere A dragon with no legs or wings is called a guivre, or orm. To medieval people, all of these monsters would have been considered different types of dragons. In our own world there are kinds of lizards with 4, 2, or no legs, and they are still lizards. Obviously, a fantasy writer can choose how they want dragons to be in their stories, but mythologically speaking, wyverns are dragons.

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

Blokewood3 eh, they wouldn't even call them dragons at all, because dragon was a modern thing MADE by heraldry, not by other cultures of old, and drakes are always the wings less dragon like creatures. People in Europe like to use that to tell the difference between the dragon like creatures, if anything, why not call them dracos, or dranoids, or dragon-like?

@MansMan42069

6 жыл бұрын

I like to call the 2-winged, 4-legged dragons "true dragons" whilst the other variations are "dragonkin". It suggests a relation to dragons but also puts true dragons at the top of the hierarchy.

@Saba_Ora

6 жыл бұрын

Least you know enough to differentiate them, but I disagree from then on. We are no longer medieval people and we can tell the difference. They may all be of the same species or category or whatever but they all have different names and distinctions because of those names. A wyvern is not a dragon and most modern "dragons" are wyverns, it's just "dragon" sounds cooler I guess. We should either call them what they are or the artists can model in two more legs.

@matthiuskoenig3378

6 жыл бұрын

actually you are wrong, saba ora, the definition of wyvern is ''wyvern ˈwʌɪv(ə)n/Submit nounHERALDRY a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.'' thus even modern definitions it is a dragon type, not independant. in fact ''The usual spelling wyvern is not attested before the seventeenth century as "winged two-footed dragon".[1] It is an alteration of Middle English (attested thirteenth century) wyver, from Old French wivre (cf. French guivre and vouivre), itself from Latin vīpera, meaning "viper", "adder", or "asp".[1][2]'' thus no one in medevil times called anything a wyvern. and infact there seems to be no disticiton between them in non-english european countries. the distiction only happened , the 1st depcition of what we wuld call a wyvern is beleived to be a roman symbol of the draco standard (the romans thus called wyverns dragons, and since they did not have 4 leged 2 winged dragons...)

@Saba_Ora

6 жыл бұрын

You can copy a definition that makes you right, I can copy a definition that makes me right. Observe: A wyvern (/ˈwaɪvərn/ WY-vərn, sometimes spelled wivern) is a legendary creature with a dragon's head and wings, a reptilian body, two legs, and a tail often ending in a diamond- or arrow-shaped tip. A sea-dwelling variant dubbed the sea-wyvern has a fish tail in place of a barbed dragon's tail. The wyvern in heraldry and folklore is rarely fire-breathing like the four-legged dragon. Since the sixteenth century, in English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry, the key difference has been that a wyvern has two legs, whereas a dragon has four. Point is it's not the middle ages anymore, just call the damn things Wyverns or give them 4 legs, all I'm saying.

Dragons are so iconic and therefore so common that it's difficult to create a good one without making it into a tired cliche.

@MySacul

6 жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to the design. You you're able to create a distinct design for your dragon, you make it memorable. Drogon an Yu-Gi-Oh dragons, although they're not even real dragons, are pretty memorable. Also, if the dragon doesn't breath fire, but other kind of attack the dragon keeps himself apart from the others, like Blue Eyes White Dragon.

@jamyangpelsang3099

6 жыл бұрын

I forgot about animated examples. Blue Eyes is one of the best.

@ShadowTrailMedia

6 жыл бұрын

It's cool to see you here on one of Rossatron's videos. You both make great videos and know good action when you see it!

@jamyangpelsang3099

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support. It's nice to meet people who can appreciate high quality action in film!

@BuyMeThingsnow

6 жыл бұрын

I think what really helps is a proper understanding of the mythic and cultural roots of the dragon. Everyone knows what a dragon is, from childhood or pop-culture, but I don't think as many people have a full familiarity with the many profound concepts that they may represent and symbolize in folklore, mythology, religion, culture, and art across the world.

I've often joked about how a lot of The Hobbit's effects budget was blown on Smaug, but then when you read a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff, it's not that far from the truth.

@KlingonCaptain

6 жыл бұрын

Though personally I think that Gollum was every bit as good as Smaug. And to be honest, when compared side by side The Hobbit Movies were good movies that do stand up along side The Lord of The Rings. The only part that feels rushed to me is the final battle and that's it. The The Hobbit movies did a good job of translating the lighter more whimsical feel of the book to the big screen.

@Funinightmare

6 жыл бұрын

The fault of the Hobbit movies is more so on Warner Brothers and harassing PJ with deadlines that ruined it especially Battle of the five armies. You might have thought that the beginning of the film with Smaug was the best part and in a way it is as it the only CGI moment that is well done whilst the battle itself is a complete mess of graphics. Peter Jackson and his crew barely had enough time to film real scenes for the last because originally the Hobbit was supposed to be two films not three plus unlike with Lord of the Rings PJ was not given a plan first which is how he works best, it's why LOTR is such a good film series at all it was the pre production the planning that made it possible. You are right that Smaug got most of the budget but that wasn't what ruined the series.

@dargons5145

6 жыл бұрын

Wait, the Hobbit would've been two movies? They basically went for the solution that would've been the best by far and then arbirtarily extended it afterwards? What the hell!

@nidohime6233

6 жыл бұрын

Dragonbasty This is today's Hollywood, where now they make trilogies of 4 movies.

@dargons5145

6 жыл бұрын

I don't have any problem with long movie series as long as they _work!_

What Reign of Fire had down perfectly, that no other dragon film has are the wing flaps. They look right. Also, the idea that the fire is produced by two separate glandular excretions in the mouth chemically reacting to oxygen is something that seems to have gotten set in stone. Those glandular features even appear in Game of Thrones. A nice realistic touch, that.

@mytwosense9135

6 жыл бұрын

CTyler84 I think the sound design of the dragons in Reign of Fire helped them too especially with flight because as you say the wing effects were great.

@AlkisGD

6 жыл бұрын

I loved that movie, if only for the dragons! And the bit with the special glands blew my mind back then. I love that it gets copied so much :D

@CTyler84

6 жыл бұрын

Άλκης Δ. I also like the Tank Bug from Starship Troopers, but that's another story ;)

@AlkisGD

6 жыл бұрын

That's a movie I've been planning to watch "one of these days" for over a decade now. I have 0 excuses 🙊

@DrTheRich

6 жыл бұрын

I like the dragon that briefly appears in Sucker Punch that everyone seems to glance over...

The primordial apex predator. The embodiment of nature's fury. Man's one true enemy.

@diablorojo3887

6 жыл бұрын

Woman?

@nowhereman6019

6 жыл бұрын

Diablo Rojo yes

@fakenews6133

6 жыл бұрын

Diablo Rojo GAAYYYYY

@vipervirus081

5 жыл бұрын

Diablo Rojo HAHAHAHA

@hls6627

5 жыл бұрын

Jim pickens

What makes me a good dragon? *IF I WERE A BAD DRAGON,I WOULDN’T BE HERE DISCUSSING IT WITH YA’ WOULD I!?*

@muskatDR

5 жыл бұрын

A bad dragon would do something quite different from just talking...

@chesscake7362

5 жыл бұрын

R/whoosh

@tntengineer2330

5 жыл бұрын

@@chesscake7362 I understood that reference. XD

@stagbeetle1050

5 жыл бұрын

Not one of ya is going to survive this!

@TheGuardDuck

5 жыл бұрын

??? Demoman doesn't exactly translate to a dragon; however a bad dragon is less likely to bother to reply...

Giving Godzilla fans some love by including Ghidorah thanks mate

@fang609

5 жыл бұрын

Legendary definitely gave Ghidorah everything they had in order to show how truly distractive he is.

@dontboopthesnek2387

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@overlord6815

5 жыл бұрын

Kinda wish this video was after Godzilla KOTM. That way we could use the current version if Ghidorah as an example

@KingCraze22

5 жыл бұрын

These GoT and Hobbit fans ain’t ready for Ghidorah. He’s about to blow this whole thing wide open.

@koltleo

5 жыл бұрын

@@KingCraze22 Yep.

Smaug kicked ass. I went to see that films in IMAX 3D. When Smaug first emerged from the pile of gold and stared Bilbo(read the audience) down, I literally had knots in my stomach as I was subconsciously getting ready to fight for my life. Even though I knew he was fake and was logically unafraid, Smaug’s presence was so overwhelming that watching that film actually elicited a visceral fear response. Had the film been 4D I am sure that there would have been people shitting themselves in the theater. Best horror movie monster experience I’ve had to date... in a pg13 fantasy action adventure movie! Shelob was pretty scary as well. The dragon slayer was great, too. Along with the ring of fire. You have good taste in dragon!

@hazardeur

5 жыл бұрын

4D? I might be wrong on this but don't you mean "true" 3D like f.ex projections? 4D would involve time as well I think

@Biffa-zv4zq

5 жыл бұрын

5D, actual Smaug comes out the screen says "I am fire, I am death and kills everyone. I would still probably pay money for that.

I've always adored King Ghidorah honestly, everything about his design and the way the films use him as always felt distinct and memorable Also, glad to see a favorite channel of mine return !

@royal_throck2983

5 жыл бұрын

What did you think of the Legendary Ghidorah?

@Wildstar5267

5 жыл бұрын

Legendary ghidorah is very unique. It gave all three heads a personality of their own, gave him some new tricks while also referencing past films. Although he is technically an alien the movie made him have earthly qualities. Like the snake rattle with the tails.

@barraganimperator4420

5 жыл бұрын

I think it is one of his best incarnations

@voyagerkamen1386

4 жыл бұрын

Barragan imperator but nothing can beat, the OG Showa Ghidorah

Nice video! People tend to forget how amazing Smaug was and Cumberbatch's brilliant performance. The films weren't memorable, but he sure was. Keep up the good work, my friend! I can see you really did your homework on this one :) Cheers.

@blokey8

6 жыл бұрын

Smaug's sidelining, I think, is rather emblematic of the Hobbit trilogy's problems. Crowding out things that made the book so special (and I say this as someone who likes the LotR films more than the books) with a load of stuff that was largely underwhelming.

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

Alec Ferris TBH, the only good thing about smaug was the voice actor.

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

vin 950 dude, you might want to erase your comment, because you are gonna get attacked by so many fans, and by people who don't like other's different tastes... So, to save your self from being attacked by people who think that only their opinions matter, and they will go on about how all cultures have their own dragons, despite no culture except for a few, actually calling their creature a dragon.

@crazy13alex

6 жыл бұрын

Zion The Dragon Love the condescension in this comment. So, are you warning or baiting?

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

Rogue Pylon I am warning? What's it to you anyway? Yours sounds more condescending.

Draco from Dragonheart has to be my favourite Dragon, hands down. That was one of my favourite childhood films and the ending always made me cry.

@KingCraze22

5 жыл бұрын

TheSaltisReal same

@draco-rn3vr

5 жыл бұрын

Draco showed dragons can be creatures of honor and duty not just destruction and death. He is hands down my favorite dragon

Favorite dragon has to be King Gidorah from Godzilla, he was bigger, tougher, and stronger than my favorite monster and it was a great treat to watch them battles multiple times in film.

@johntremendol

6 жыл бұрын

Conrado Ramos his sound design is what really sold him, its so scary but almost asmr-like raw and loud, brilliant

@caramel7050

6 жыл бұрын

really excited to see his design in king of the monsters

@koltleo

5 жыл бұрын

Everyones talking about the dragon that came from space, the false king, Ghidorah.

@ghidorah4695

5 жыл бұрын

@@koltleo Fight me

King Ghidorah is about to blow all of the competition out of the water in the weight division.

@fang609

5 жыл бұрын

Probably the distraction department as well.

@jessicawurm23

5 жыл бұрын

*walkie-talkie hisses* Release Ancalagon the Black

@samuraijackoff5354

5 жыл бұрын

😩👌🍆💦 Hella thicc

@dudethmcgraff7627

5 жыл бұрын

Jessica McAtarian come to think of it I bet ancalagon is larger. Ghids stood atop a volcano so you can see his mass, but anc, while only present in a novel, Destroyed a MOUNTAIN RANGE when he hit the ground after death. I’m sure Ghidorah is dwarfed by him.

@samuraijackoff5354

5 жыл бұрын

Dudeth McGraff King Ghidorah Size vary to each one. Some are as tall as towers and the New Ghidorah is simply Infinite. His base strength is destroying Venus’s civilization effortlessly, wings capable of causing hurricanes and topple godzilla and multiple other monsters with wind, thunder and ect.

What makes me a good dragon? IF I WAS A BAD DRAGON, I WOULDN'T BE HERE SITTING DISCUSSING WITH YA, NOW WOULD I?

@magicalgoat2406

5 жыл бұрын

Great reference!

@sparkthefloofyprotogen3556

5 жыл бұрын

I love tf2 man good meet the demo reference

I love how you included King Ghidorah in this video, even though you never actually mentioned him. He is by far one of my favorite dragons in all of fiction. That being said, let's hope Legendary does the King of Terror justice. From the trailer they may just pull it off.

@itsvox4398

5 жыл бұрын

Any news ?

@virgin1792

5 жыл бұрын

@@itsvox4398 Lol

Reign of Fire is the best little known gem of a dragon movie I know of, if you haven't seen it check it out.

Just saw Rein of Fire for the first time last night and couldn't agree with your sentiment on it more. Couldn't believe it was made in 2002 the dragons are some of the best cg creatures I've seen, purely on their weight. Also you convinced me to watch Petes Dragon and check out Dragonslayer. Great to see you back!

@KingCraze22

5 жыл бұрын

Cian Laffey reign of fire was awesome and the video game was so cool. It let you play as the dragons and actually turned them into the protagonist if you chose their path over the humans.

@krannisern4612

5 жыл бұрын

69 likes NICE

The latest GoT season was underwhelming, but those dragons really stood out.

@T3HR3PP4

5 жыл бұрын

I disagree. We are two episodes in, four more to go and the army of Wight Walkers has almost arrived at Winterfell. Whelmed is the right word for this feeling.

@thefaceofregret5416

5 жыл бұрын

T3HR3PP4 This comment was made a year ago.

What makes a great wyvern: 3 heads, golden color, gigantic 500ft height, 1000ft wingspan, spits lightning, came from space, has two tails with spikey clubs at the tip of each tail. guess what this monster is.

@virgin1792

5 жыл бұрын

My mom?

Agree, Smaug was easily the best thing about that whole Hobbit-tragedy. When he died the entire triology died with him.

@chancepaladin

6 жыл бұрын

I feel like... producers/directors are forced to kill their dragons off. They die in damn near every movie and its incredibly frustrating.

@chrisossu2070

6 жыл бұрын

Thing is, Smaug also died before the end in the source material. Then again, Bilbo was unconscious for most of the Battle of the Five Armies in the source material as well, so there shouldn't have been a whole third movie of material.

@caramel7050

6 жыл бұрын

Chance Paladin smaug also died in the book. the movies themselves though were a fucking mess regardless. imo smaug was the best thing in them

@milenkojakovljevic5499

6 жыл бұрын

I would also add bilbo as one of the best things in the story

@scornbass1552

5 жыл бұрын

He was the greatest dragon I ever saw.

Accuracies... In a similar fashion, that's what made the most recent rendition of Godzilla so effective. In every scene, he looked big, strong, and imposing. He was shot at angles that subconsciously made you crane your head upward in the theater, even though your eyes really should've been able to capture his scale, on their own.

Movement is always an important part of a creature design for me personally.

The Game of Thrones dragons were so f*cking EPIC!!!...

Drogon : I'm the best of the dragons! Smaug : Are you sure about that? Ghidorah : You two look cute when arguing.

@koltleo

5 жыл бұрын

Godzilla: Ghidorah, Ima beat up your ass.

@virgin1792

5 жыл бұрын

Ghidorah- Ah shit here we go again.

This helped me quantify WHY I like GOT's dragons so much. They look great but moreover they FEEL huge, their wingbeats are deliberate and powerful, their firebreathing isn't so much shooting fire as it is a shockwave of torrential flame that annihilates things it comes in contact with. I do think the Nazgul's flying mounts are good too, mostly because of the size and weight of the wing beats. They aren't that large but that aspect of them really sold it.

Then there's that legless dragon in my story who cries of joy when the protagonist, upon hearing he hates books because he can't turn the pages, offers to pass the pages for him.

It's not film, but anyone who wants a masterclass in how to give a dragon personality should take a look at the animation work done for the Monster Hunter series of video games. Specifically the Rathalos and Rathian winged wyverns, as well as elder dragons such as Kushala Deora, Fatalis, and Vaal Ha'zak.

Dragons exist in all places and cultures. They combine all the features of the most dangerous predators of men into a single, lethal creature. The sinuous and scaled body of a snake, the lithe and powerful limbs of a great cat, the flight and mighty talons of a bird of prey, and of course, an enemy that cannot be fought, fire. Combine it together this way in your mind, and you can picture how a dragon would really be.

@bulborb8756

5 жыл бұрын

with of course many different types of dragon's: wyvern's, hydra's, drake's, wyrm's and other's while many depict dragon's on having the ability to breathe fire, there are of course one's that do breathe other kind's such as ice, water, electricity and poison

@hadrian8712

4 жыл бұрын

@Ionasku Alexander in the first early depictions of dragons they actually breathed not fire but plagues aka disease

I agree with you that Smaug was the best character in the entire Hobbit trilogy. Heck he’s my favorite Tolkien character!

dragonslayer was one of the films i watched most when i was little so i love it that you included it

I really appreciate the use of King Ghidorah here. He's not exactly a compelling character but he's impressive and cool nonetheless.

Draco from the original Dragonheart is still today one of the best,on-screen dragons. Not only does his CGI hold up pretty good,to today's standarts,but he also has a great personality,mainly because of the voice acting by Sir Sean Connery.

@rachaelpetrak940

5 жыл бұрын

Loved Draco in the original movie and your right, Sean Connery's voice makes that character.

Smaug: “I am fire- I am....death” King Ghidorah: “no you’re not, I met death after I killed Venus and Mars and it wasn’t you”

@kiobde667

5 жыл бұрын

cringe

@asilduin4594

5 жыл бұрын

cringe 2

@bobbob-yg4om

5 жыл бұрын

Cringe 3

@bagofsunshine3916

5 жыл бұрын

No u

@KingCraze22

5 жыл бұрын

Ghidorah: nice to meet you. I’m the devil.

A good dragon comes with good fighting music... *Chanting and drums start playing*

@Vilelie

4 жыл бұрын

Game of Thrones says hi

What makes a great Rossatron ? his existence.

Smaug: my teeth are swords, my claws are spears, I am fire, I am... death" King ghidorah: lol dats cute.

@kiobde667

5 жыл бұрын

cringe

@overlord6815

5 жыл бұрын

@@kiobde667 You gonna type that on every comment about Ghidorah being superior to Smaug?

@real_mushroom_hunter

5 жыл бұрын

@@kiobde667 ghidorah is only like 10 times bigger, has gravity beams, not only from its heads, it can channel them from any body part, also it has 3 instead of one head, and a club tail with retractable spikes. What does smaug have... a cave of gold

@kiobde667

5 жыл бұрын

@@overlord6815 No. The way he worded it was cringe.

@sinister7290

5 жыл бұрын

@@real_mushroom_hunter not beeing op also makes a character good, for example Marvel's MCU characters are more deep and well-made and none of them is incredibly op so they cant die, in comparison to super man

Dragons are supposedly made up of aspects of animals we fear instinctively, Lions, Snakes, and Bird of Prey(mainly eagles). So it's only natural that Dragons would have the body of a lion, the neck and tail of a snake, and the wings of an eagle, just without the feathers.

@crazydiamondrequiem4236

5 жыл бұрын

ShadeOfEclipse isn't that description belongs to a chimera or am I wrong?

@seeker4it

5 жыл бұрын

​@@crazydiamondrequiem4236 They also apply to Chimeras tbh

@boianko

4 жыл бұрын

Why would we instinctively fear a bird of prey? They're pretty harmless and were never really any threat to us.

@seeker4it

4 жыл бұрын

@@boianko Eagles are known to attack humans and even prey upon small children, and in the past there used to be giant eagles that actually preyed upon humans, but they only lived in New Zealand I'm pretty sure.

@boianko

4 жыл бұрын

@@seeker4it I'm gonna need a citation that: A) Haast's Eagle (the indeed giant eagles you're referring to that went extinct in the 14th century) attacked humans B) humans were ever preyed upon by eagles, since the only case I can think of is the remains of an early hominid child with eagle scratch marks. That child was not Homo sapiens however.

It's from a game , but the most impressive dragon I've seen is the kushala daora in monster Hunter. Nothing says terror than facing a steel skinned dragon blasting out typhoons.

I really hoped to see clips from the 1982 cartoon The Flight Of Dragons, which I highly recommend to anyone. Still, It's nice to see this channel is active again.

@LordBaktor

6 жыл бұрын

Wonderful movie.

@LeftHandedGuitarist

6 жыл бұрын

That's the film that cemented my love of dragons when I was a kid. So memorable.

@torinjones3221

6 жыл бұрын

Bryagh is my favourite dragon ever

@Inrezairo

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for mentioning this gem of a movie, I really enjoyed it as a kid and loved how they brought the dragons to life.

the best movie about dragons has the best dragon Draco from Dragon Heart and everytime i cry at the ending and it is so well done!!

I am the lasht dragon. :D Actually expected to see Onyxia and possibly Deathwing on here, but still a damn good list!

I had a vivid childhood memory very similar to yours. It was a clip from "The Valley of Gwangi." A Harryhausen T-rex. It was only a clip, not the whole movie, and it was in black and white, and as a child I thought it was from a documentary. It scared and thrilled me to think that that creature was out there somewhere. Fortunately for me, that movie actually holds up, discovered and seen again 3 decades later. I didn't recapture that same thrill of childhood wonderment, but I recognized the clip, and the movie itself was worth my time.

I'm so happy this video appeared in my recommended videos. This information will definitely help me portray the dragons I put in my stories a lot better.

Samug hands down, cause he's as much of a character as anyone else in the Middle-Earth movies. Forget to say in your last vid that's it nice to have you back. Thought you'd left KZread and wouldn't have blamed you if ye did

There's a great dragon in the Swedish movie "Bröderna Lejonhjärta" (The Lionheart Brothers) called Katla.

@thesketchingson6677

6 жыл бұрын

BirdsElopeWithTheSun I am from Sweden (perhaps you are to) And I agree with you that Katla is really good as the concept of a dragon. Ancient, collosal and animalistic with an still aware fury behind her actions. Her portrayal in the movie is discussable. It's good for the time it was made, but still.

What really sold Reign of Fire for me was how perfectly they captured the power of their dragons. The build-up, the dread, the reveal, the design and animation, the sense of weight, speed, and the heat of their flames, and the devastation they leave behind - it really makes the whole movie, IMO. I find myself thoroughly invested in the world of Reign of Fire (and to a lesser extent, Bale's character), even when the dragons themselves are nowhere to be found. This is a world ruled by ancient beasts, where the kings rain fire down from the sky and terror drives the human race towards extinction. Every frame is a reminder of that. If someone could make a thrilling survival RPG with a similar premise and setting, I'd play the hell out of it.

Vermithrax Pejorative also has one of the most awesome NAMES for an original dragon in film history.

Do a video on what makes a good action movie protagonist

@Rossatron

6 жыл бұрын

Cast Keanu Reeves

@SomeBody-mc1km

6 жыл бұрын

Rossatron Ha! I can't believe you replied! Thanks for the tip.

@hypnolobster

6 жыл бұрын

10/10 answer

Vermithrax Pejorative of Dragonslayer scared me as a kid and will always be my number one depiction of a dragon.

This video inspired me to go back to listen to Puff the Magic Dragon. I don’t regret it but I am very very emotional.

Horror express was the kind of movie you described in the beginning for me. When I was 7 I was it, and it was my first exposure to horror cinema. It was unnerving too me, but because of the age it didn't scare me like a modern movie would have. My point is, I know just what you're talking about

How to make a great movie about dragons: Dont hire the director of the Eragon movie.

@renkii_0

5 жыл бұрын

Bill Cipher Good dragon, bad movie

The dragons in Reign of Fire were great and had some real presence but, as you say, the rest of the film was pretty weak. What I remember most about that film was the poster. The film the poster seemed to promise had dragons dog fighting with squadrons of Apache attack helicopters over The Houses of Parliament. I thought it was going to be a bit like War of the Worlds but with dragons instead of Martians. What a bloody let down. As an aside, I was so impressed by the dragon in Dragon Slayer that I named my pet rat, Vermithrax, after him.

@pp3k3jamail

6 жыл бұрын

midnightmosesuk her

Just finally taking some time again to browse through your backlog… I'm amazed how versatile you are. Sure, there's some repetition on the movies and type of movies discussed, but then something like this comes along and is just as great as the videos about martial arts or whatever. Great stuff, Ross!

I'm so glad your back! Missed your analysis so much! Keep up the great work!

Glad to see your back

@WhirlingMusic

6 жыл бұрын

How did you get to see his back?

@cyruspink6217

6 жыл бұрын

Whirrlinq Music Twitter

@mikespearwood3914

6 жыл бұрын

cyrus otell was it hairy?

@cyruspink6217

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Spearwood very tbh

Dragonslayer has always been my favourite dragon film. But I love dragons in general. I would have liked if you talked a bit more about that one in Conan the Adventurer. But then again, he had very little screen time.

Glad to have you back

Good to see you back!

Love the kraken but I have a lot of respect for dragons, although I prefer for them to have four legs rather than two (call me petty but that’s a wythern), Smaug would have to be my favorite

@Leery_Bard

6 жыл бұрын

Wyvern, but I agree.

@FlyingFocs

6 жыл бұрын

If I ever actually wrote that fantasy series I keep saying I will, I WILL include a race of wyverns, have them take the traits of wyverns from heraldry.., and make certain that they are never called dragons, just to make people learn the difference. Yeah, it bothers me too.

@zanzibar4730

6 жыл бұрын

Totally, dragons are amazing but the Kraken instils me with that sense of fear but also of excitement of how epic of a beast it is. The fact that it's so massive and so complex you can't comprehend what it's even doing.

@CliffDiverBOA

6 жыл бұрын

That's what I love about The Witcher video game series (not sure if they do this in the books) where, at least once, villagers contract Geralt the monster slayer with killing a "dragon" and it ends up being a Wyvern.

@Rynewulf

6 жыл бұрын

Now y'see if you go back to old bestiaries and stories its not so clear cut: the distinctions tend to be in modern things. Many old heraldic images of what they called serpents and dragons we would refer to as wyverns (see a variety of British heraldic dragons, such as those for Wessex and the pre-Norman kingdom of England). And again in bestiaries and stories you often have many diverse creatures (eg basilisk, cockatrice, pythons, wyrms, sea serpents) all referred to as types of serpents in the dragon sense (supernatural/magical, reptilian, breathes poison/fire, aggressive, predatory, etc) or strait up as dragons. But its distinctions in the end according to all the old sources rather than entirely separate things such as the Russian dragons with many many heads and legs or Chinese Lung dragons with no wings and antlers. If you want to focus son the distinctions and refer to the different types by their own terms that's cool, that's what's typically done with them now, but I just feel the need to pedantically butt in when that happens xD

I see a rossatron video I press like

I love your video essays! Great work

Love Dragonslayer. Happy you gave it a mention.

KING GHIDORAH

The dragon in Spirited Away counts?

@KKKuma

6 жыл бұрын

He is Asian's dragon: Serpent type with no wings, no large scale. Asian dragon tend to be godly, divine creature (like god) and most of them are good and rarely attack human. Europian Dragon are different though

@nidohime6233

6 жыл бұрын

KK Well he talked about memorable dragons, not just evil ones.

Reign of Fire will always hold a special place in my heart.

@kunik61

5 жыл бұрын

How can it be good? It portrays them as parasites!

Reign of Fire is among my favourite films, and its depiction of the dragon was incredibly well done. The film sold me on a world in fear of these mighty creatures - which had such presence, and elicit great fear among the remaining populace. To my knowledge it's the only film that's explored a more realistic depiction of the creature (that is to say, what would happen if dragons emerged to wreak havoc on modern day earth). I don't think the film aimed to create fully fleshed out -developed - characters; but to sell us on a world living in fear, and how they respond to the threat. It's the circumstance that draws you in (how horrifying it must be to exist in such a world). Love the film. Also loved Dragon Heart, and Smaug was hypnotic (and THE best thing about the Hobbit movies).

Where you been dude?

The T-rex from Jurassic Park is my first dragon experience. It basically fits all your requirement for a good dragon, apart from the wings and the fire breath.

@chancepaladin

6 жыл бұрын

I completely agree that he counts. I expected to see him as well... But then you have to include the Trex or allosaurus or whatever it was from Caveman, and then the trex ends up being his own video :D

@couchgrouches7667

6 жыл бұрын

Chance Paladin *she

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah when it comes to Rexy.. You refer to her as she.. Never refer to Rexy as a He.... She gets angry about that... (hear's the distant thumping of a pissed off Rex.) Best of luck to you. -_-

@Player-re9mo

6 жыл бұрын

eaglerocks123 Rex means King in latin, though. Not queen!

@paulofernandesroberto9336

6 жыл бұрын

Player 10 Yes, but in the movie its clearly stated the all the dinosaurs on the Island are females ^^

Smaug was a particularly terrifying dragon for me, not only did he have that weight as you talked about, how every footstep he made shook the earth, but the fact that he still manages to run and move so quickly even when not flying is utterly scary. I think by far the scariest part about Smaug though is his intelligence, as much as I wouldn't say he's incredibly intelligent, he is still easily able to outwit most normal people, another thing that adds to him is incase you didn't know (Not 100% sure on this so don't cite me) they needed to rent a super computer, to render each and every individual scale on his body, that's like rendering every hair on a person's head

Legendary king ghidorah was a beautiful representation of a dragon from the different heads personalities, to the serpentine movements, and his fighting style and gravity beams.

How to train your dragon still pulls it of better then all the others

But what about DRAGONS?

@DrTheRich

6 жыл бұрын

jee i recognize this :)

@somerandomdragon558

6 жыл бұрын

Please don't throw pommels through machicolations. D:

@nidohime6233

6 жыл бұрын

I see what you did

That last clip of smaug and the statue sums up the entire video. Brilliant!

Nice to see you back making videos Rossy boi

i dont feel like this is a “what makes a good dragon” I think it’s seven minutes about a guy talking about movies he liked and weight

0:14 I had that for one of the Transporter movies (However, the movie was as good as I had thought/remembered.) I can't remember which Transporter, but I remember a kid was at a hospital, Jason Statham saw some blood and knew something was going to happen, then started fighting. Immense satisfaction when I saw the movie again.

@commander31able60

6 жыл бұрын

bill bill Transporter 2

I feel like ive been waiting for this video my whole life

i like HTTYD, it makes the dragons feel like believable animals instead of overpowered monsters (and then there was the Red Death and the Bewilderbeast, but they had tons of thought put into how they would interact with their environment)

No mention of Trogdor, the Burninator? Weak! (Do I need a /sarc tag/)

King Ghidora is best.

This is one of the reasons I love the Legendary Godzilla movies. They really make the creatures feel like they're there.

This is one of my favourite videos on KZread

it's not bad, but with these new videos there's a sense of exhaustion in your voice. i hope you aren't recording these at insane early hours of the morning. I absolutely love the content , but wouldn't want you to over exert yourself. just a note from a fan

@Rossatron

6 жыл бұрын

Recorded in winter with a cold, but thanks for looking out. I'm just getting old and haggard.

What makes a great dragon? When it's actually a DRAGON and not a wyvern.

Vermithrax is the first movie "dragon" I ever saw. I remember her not only because her SFX was awesome for the time but also her backstory. I recall them saying she was old and in pain. She shed scales and had holes in her wings and broken horns and missing teeth. She knew nothing but pain. I can only imagine how hard it was to move that giant body that was aging. Her last brood killed off and she would most likely not be able to have another. I felt for her.

Smaug’s portrayal was my favourite in the Hobbit movies. It reminded me of why I loved and was awed by dragons.

the most unique dragon is probably the bewilderbeast from how to train your dragon 2

I advice anyone that wants something more about dragons to search for vsauce2's video "The millions year war (Man vs Dragon)". It has some interesting additions to this video and dragons in general. Also best dragon ever has to Shrek! :D In the ancient greek stories the term Dragon was used more for a creature like an ogre ( or at least what ogres seem to be as a fantastical creature) than the winged lizard type

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

Zeliek sorry, to say, that dragon wasn't used by them for that, as it Hadden exsisted yet, and you may be thinking of Drakon, which means huge water serpent, and orge wasn't a creature in Greek mythos, they had cyclops, titans, giants, and beasts like that, but no orges.

So happy you're back

The master is back... the Dragon of logic, analysis and video love.

Be deathwing?

@ThePandoraGuy

6 жыл бұрын

Nah. Deathwing was a whinny bitch.

@ConnorNotyerbidness

6 жыл бұрын

The Pandora Guy since when? The guy literally almost tore a planet in two

@ThePandoraGuy

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but he still acts like a diva with wings, a whinny bitch. Oh my life is so bad, i was mistreated, oh the pain, oh the suffering. I need to burn and destroy other peoples property now, then everyone likes me. /sarcasm off

@ConnorNotyerbidness

6 жыл бұрын

The Pandora Guy ...youve been reading fan fiction. Deathwing is obsessed with power not adoration

@ThePandoraGuy

6 жыл бұрын

That's what the sarcasm tag was for my dear friend ;).

Dragon Heart (Draco) is the best dragon

@DrTheRich

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah i love him, he is also funny. although he does have the lack of weight issue like most dragons from earlier times...

@ticklemonster7956

6 жыл бұрын

Honestly the CGI in that movie looks so good to this day

@zionthedragon8866

6 жыл бұрын

Matthijs de Rijk all dragons, still have "weight issues".

@AtlasBlizzard

6 жыл бұрын

And he has ARMS! Why is that so rare in movies nowadays? It's all wyverns being put forth as dragons.

@somerandomdragon558

6 жыл бұрын

But what about me? :c

Wasn't sure if I was gonna see king ghidorah in the video but aaaa lets goooo.

Dragonslayer still is one of my favorite films and that dragon is still amazing.

king Ghidorah, smaug and toothless are the better dragons

Do not speak of Eragon. It's a disgrace of a film compared to the beauty of the books 😤

This was awesome, man.

I need more Dangerous and Evil Eastern Dragon. Soo much untouched potential.

@kunik61

5 жыл бұрын

Or peaceful and good Western.

@samuraijackoff5354

5 жыл бұрын

kunik61 We’ve gotten an Idea then.