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@Tchesi

15 күн бұрын

Ok but how

12 years of piano and I'm trying to figure out if I'm a beginner or an intermediate player

@simonfowler9188

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same 😤😂

@Galaxy-jy9wl

3 жыл бұрын

I'm EXACTLY the same!😂

@hudsonsoul3259

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too, l figure I'm in between beginner and intermediate so l must beintermediateginner. Pretty sure this isn't a word but somehow l know what it means.

@wensuser1151

3 жыл бұрын

I am trying to figure out if I can even play the piano

@prem6469

3 жыл бұрын

The same

After 12 years of playing, I’d hope I’m at least an intermediate player.

@user-wk8cf8wx1d

4 жыл бұрын

same here, ive been classically trained for about 16 years... haha

@TheNutshaq

4 жыл бұрын

Joline Petram you’re probably at least an intermediate player

@user-wk8cf8wx1d

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheNutshaq yeah, I am. I don't wanna brag, but the things shown in the video are pretty easy for me...

@langleybuck1171

4 жыл бұрын

Kia Same lol. I’ve played for 10

@laurinm8186

4 жыл бұрын

turned out I'm not

i did not spend 10 years of my life playing piano to be called a beginner 😭

@rainbowfulable

3 жыл бұрын

that's what i'm sayingggg 😭 😭

@peachyedits22

3 жыл бұрын

Felt that. I clicked this video thinking I'd know a good amount of the stuff. I was wrong. I've definitely heard of some of these things but I definitely couldn't play any of this if someone asked me to.

@estefaniall

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOO literally

@SerG-ez2po

3 жыл бұрын

:)) mastering the piano it's pretty difficult, most of the instruments especially the ones you blow air into are like playing the right hand with the piano, but of course they also have their challenges...

@mind_trix6538

3 жыл бұрын

Sameeeee😅😅😅

So according to this video Im a highly skilled advanced complete beginner

@lbsanchez9681

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@StephanieLBeck

3 жыл бұрын

This 😂😂😂

@MrJereJo-Gaming

3 жыл бұрын

ahahahha same

@steadfastonhisword1810

3 жыл бұрын

Yep same. I don't understand a word she said, yet I play mozart. So, I guess my mind is an enigma.

@languidcreature2345

3 жыл бұрын

@@steadfastonhisword1810 you Don’t know about scales but you play Mozart?

I could be an intermediate piano player if I were not an intermittent piano player.

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

haha :)!

@mcrettable

4 жыл бұрын

all it takes is discipline

@katemassop3670

4 жыл бұрын

Same here ... :-)!

@ned4515

4 жыл бұрын

I am intermebeginner :P

@jimmyponds1098

4 жыл бұрын

We may be like the proverbial "two peas in a pod." Although I enjoy playing the piano, I haven't done it/practiced consistently over the years and it SHOWS!!

Wow! I was feeling pretty good about my piano skills until I watched this!

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

That's okay! Don't despair! Everyone still has something they nee to learn on the piano. Just be patient with yourself! :)

@KajetanKazimierczak

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, same here!

@vari1535

4 жыл бұрын

Yup samee

@henrike16254

4 жыл бұрын

Same I’ve been playing for 15 years but I still suck at music theory 😅

@philipmcniel4908

4 жыл бұрын

@@henrike16254 I think the definition of "music theory" depends entirely on what style of music you're talking about. If you're talking about classical piano, a lot of it depends on scales, straightforward rhythms and time signatures, and basic chords (triads and 7th chords), and maybe some functional harmony (finding out what the words "tonic," "dominant," and "subdominant" mean). If you're talking about jazz piano, there's a lot more in the way of extended harmonies (9th and 13th chords) and syncopated rhythm. Contemporary/pop piano is more about understanding simple "pop progressions" such as 1-5-6-4 and its cousin 6-4-1-5 (way different from practicing those progressions from classical piano lessons that tend to be 4-5 chords long and start *and* end on I), and being able to play them in different keys and with different rhythms. I'd say that your grasp of music theory isn't too terrible if you understand one of those three branches of music theory: The one associated with the style you want to specialize in playing.

8 years and I still look up the “EASY” songs on youtube

@kathyd123

3 жыл бұрын

AMEN!!!!

@gabriellewashere7353

2 жыл бұрын

Almost 9 for me- But I always listen to amazing pieces and say to myself, "I wonder if I can play that" Hands: _funny haha laugh_

@j_saz5905

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabriellewashere7353 ikr

@j_saz5905

2 жыл бұрын

@@pletkoek7575 jokes on you, it’s nine years now and now I can play intermediate songs... so suck it

@j_saz5905

2 жыл бұрын

@@pletkoek7575 lol

I'm a beginner that likes to learn songs above my skill level

@benimoo7894

2 жыл бұрын

keep it up! pushing yourself above your limit helps you learn faster! so you might be an intermediate cause youre learning new stuff that are above your level, so yeah. happy practicing!!

@luisaoliveira2158

2 жыл бұрын

It do be like that

@angelazapata_official

2 жыл бұрын

@@luisaoliveira2158 literally 😅

@angelazapata_official

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like this is the reason why we all think we're intermediate

@adhamhisham2133

2 жыл бұрын

that's a great way to progress much faster!

*doesnt play piano* Hmm yes I wonder what level piano playing I’m at

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

It's never too late to start! :)

@staringintoouterspacecrying

4 жыл бұрын

felt

@veridia_

3 жыл бұрын

Your level must be fetus level

@joepena1768

3 жыл бұрын

@@PianoteOfficial thank you I needed this advice

@henricuspriaas

3 жыл бұрын

me

My self-esteem level got down to the sea level....

@jojoletyran447

4 жыл бұрын

On minecraft it's about 60

@artvid-1915

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@mariannehaugvaldstad2763

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean *C level*

@maxwellli7057

3 жыл бұрын

Been playing for five long years, I find myself learning Kinderszenen 😭😭😭

@maddie_simps2542

3 жыл бұрын

Ive been playing piano for like 3 years and some stuff i havent learnedlike the 7th cords never plated them ever

Like many others who have commented here, I realized after watching this video a year ago that despite years of playing the piano I wasn’t actually playing at an intermediate level. I decided to dedicate the last year to memorizing my scales, arpeggios, triads, and really improving my reading skills. A year later I’m rewatching this video and I’m now confident that I can call myself an intermediate player. The skills mentioned in this video improved my playing in so many ways, they’re all definitely worth learning. Thank you for giving me the motivation I needed to move my piano playing to the next level! :)

@realitycheck816

Жыл бұрын

How about now

@frocen1

9 ай бұрын

Playing almost 10 years and I'm still a beginner

Since i’m self taught I can’t believe I’ve been a beginner for 7 years

@ridemywheelie

3 жыл бұрын

This is focused on music theory. I think it's "good to know" especially to compose music. However, leaning to play songs probably doesn't require all the theory.

@christiconegaming8184

2 жыл бұрын

im not self taught, tho im still a beginner

@ridemywheelie

2 жыл бұрын

@Senshine will we ever not feel like a beginner?

@ridemywheelie

2 жыл бұрын

@Senshine do we define ourselves by how we do scales and know music theory? Personally, I consider how advanced of a song we can play to determine what level we are at. Beginner songs tend to have single notes for both left and right hands. Intermediate songs have chords in at least one hand. Of course rhythm and speed vary in difficulty. We are what we play! Just my opinion.

@ivywong9095

2 жыл бұрын

Me too i just ply whatever song i liked and after watching this video i relised that there's so much i don't know, like i only know a-b majors

I’d say there is a difference between the knowledge of scales and terminology, and the skill of the player to play different things, this vid doesn’t really touch on that

@resym7734

4 жыл бұрын

Actually technique is what identifies your level of playing rather than learning advanced repertoire

@9DarkAngelx

4 жыл бұрын

@@resym7734 agreed, plenty of amazing pianist youtubers have never taken a course and play by ear (ex : Theishter)

@lucaslucas191202

4 жыл бұрын

@@resym7734 Not entirely true. I wouldn't call a person that could go up and sight read la campanella an intermediate player because he never bothered looking at scales. He's extremely good, just not at making the music himself. Actually interestingly enough my piano teacher barely bothered teaching me any of this. She just helped me practice pieces. You may call her bad, but fact of the matter is that that's what she (an experienced player) thought was acceptable.

@luckymickelson8024

4 жыл бұрын

Jake English ikr

@prinniapuff

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucaslucas191202 My teacher was the same, I took piano lessons for about 7 years and she told me I'd be ahead of the game in college for knowing what the circle of fifths was. Turns out that was not true. I definitely understand the need to learn all of this but it's a bit disheartening to know that I could play any of these or differentiate them by ear, but I'm not considered more than a beginner because I can't name them.

An intermediate pianist can pronounce Chopin and not say "shapan".

@greenautumn2820

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry my mum thought it was chop in lol

@bis9817

4 жыл бұрын

I say Chop-in... Is it wrong by any chance?

@BuddyDean

4 жыл бұрын

And also pronounce Ravel and not say raffle.

@bis9817

4 жыл бұрын

@UpriseNova oh okay thanks lol

@giox665

4 жыл бұрын

I pronounce it Sho-pan

I've been humbled... I now realize, based on this, that I'm still very much a beginner. Thank you for helping me critically assess my current level of piano fluency, Lisa. I know what effort I need to put into my lessons.

@dawsoncl5444

2 жыл бұрын

Lemmie just pull out my 18th century speech… Oh I can’t find it… dog must have ate it again

@aviation8168

9 ай бұрын

Same, i only passed for intermediate for sight reading, music theory and dynamics and emotion. So im still a beginner A beginner that can play Fantasie impromptu and the first movement of rach 2

@meilingwang8038

4 ай бұрын

Lol

@francu125

2 ай бұрын

@@aviation8168HAHA You dont really need a lot of the first things she mentioned, if u can sight read and play good what you read you are really good to go

So a year ago I stumbled upon this video. I was only two years into my piano journey at that time, but before I saw the video I thought I had a few 'intermediate' skills nonetheless... I was mostly wrong, but also inspired... So every area outlined in this video where I was deficient I focused on improving during my practices. Now, it's a year later and I can confidently say I'm checking 90%+ of the boxes outlined by Lisa in this video. My piano journey continues and of course I have much, much, much more to learn. Lisa and the rest of Pianote, thanks for the inspiration.

@The_Art_of_Music_Official

Жыл бұрын

Well done bro, congrats on your journey, continue strong!

@BDBoswell

4 күн бұрын

Congratulations 🎉

Oh🤣 according to this I've never even seen a piano

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Don't stress! Leaning takes time! If there is anything you need help with don't be scared to ask, I'd love to help! :)

@greenautumn2820

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jimmyponds1098

4 жыл бұрын

I can relate!!

@ephascus8974

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@projody264

4 жыл бұрын

Search

Me, a piano player who learned by ear for about 4 years: “oh! I should be at LEAST be intermediate, right??” Video: “Music theory” “Scales” Me: *bangs head on piano keys*

@heatherqualy9143

4 жыл бұрын

MagnumOpium Me.

@itsuki574

4 жыл бұрын

Almost me.

@philip.stigaard

4 жыл бұрын

Ok...

@zaakuuroo

4 жыл бұрын

Practice some theory. It's not that hard and it would really help you to understand more

@itsuki574

4 жыл бұрын

@@zaakuuroo Bien vu bg

it's weird because I can play difficult classical songs (Turkish March, Beethoven Moonlight 3rd movement) but I got a begginer level in this video

@mangotango4529

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah… Idk this video is more music theory not actual playing level/skill in my opinion

@sidnotthesloth1827

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr this video is just about musical theory not skills both you and i wasted our time hoping to hear that we are intermediate.

@bikinipuncake724

3 жыл бұрын

You can honestly play any song if you have persistence, determination, and a metronome. A beginner can easily learn and play Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement with these three things. What separates a beginner from intermediate is the knowledge and understanding of what they can play (music theory)

@jordanlosper5761

3 жыл бұрын

classical pieces*

@eimaansaqib7653

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr. I have zero knowledge in music theory but I can play songs that are classified as "intermediate level". I don't know where that puts me.

At 71, I'm sure I'm a beginner... This young lady has taught me more in 3 videos than I have known in the past 60 years. She make's it somewhat easy to learn piano. Thanks

This should be entitled "what level of a musician are you?" Instead of being a pianist. All these are mostly theory not piano technique, and not piano difficulty.

@samwse7503

4 жыл бұрын

Very much aggreed.

@SaltofSaturn

4 жыл бұрын

I was going to say something similar. I have a lot of the sight reading, theory, and chord recognition ability from extensive voice experience, but that doesn't mean I can play the piano. I'd say I'm beginning piano.

@cloudambient

4 жыл бұрын

As someone now looking into grad school to continue a degree in piano performance and pedagogy, and as someone who performs and teaches professionally, I one hundred percent disagree. I don't think you get it ...

@jaschadadap4111

4 жыл бұрын

@@cloudambient I do feel we have differences in perspective. Don't get me wrong, these techniques are definitely essential in let's say acquiring a degree or teaching music in general. I just fail to distinguish how the "techniques" in the video are specifically for the piano and not for let's say the violin. Going back to piano techniques, you can't go to a piano competition and display your skills with this. These are still the fundamentals in order to understand the works of romantic, and especially those of modern. I compete nationally and in Asia as a classical pianist. I have a degree in biotech, but my father's a concert master and my grandfather was a composer who has presented his compositions in Carnegie. I hope you get into grad school and pursue your dreams. Especially with the Corona virus situation, artists like us are needed by society :)

@musicismylife17blue

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaschadadap4111 I am a music educator looking to improve my piano skills and the first thing I thought about is how this video is applicable to any instrument. The name of the video could be something more like you stated above but because this is a channel for piano I think that's why the focus is on piano levels.

As a self taught player i always wondered where i fit. Thank you : )

@huyvuquang9533

4 жыл бұрын

God level maybe?

@NikosAravanis

4 жыл бұрын

@@huyvuquang9533 Intermediate slacker :)

@idiotsandwich115

4 жыл бұрын

Same here!!

@JustynFlorie

4 жыл бұрын

Felt this!

@_Www.BatteryAcid.org_

4 жыл бұрын

I'm a self taught to

Idk if I am going to quick or too slow, but since I got a piano teacher I’ve learned quite a lot, minus diminishing 7 or whatever lol Edit: I know literally no one has seen this comment but here I am 2 years later going strong. I would consider myself in most fields early/mid advanced at piano, and have progressed rapidly. Piano has become my passion and something that I want to grow in for as long as possible. Hopefully I can come back in a few years to this comment and we can see where we at then too.

@iamtjahan

Жыл бұрын

Keep it going!

@prizm8530

Жыл бұрын

@@iamtjahan I am literally at a piano competition just watching on my phone between performances lol

@salutarysix6869

Жыл бұрын

Going to do buy my first piano today, though all these weird formulas that it looks like I’ll have to learn are a bit discouraging 😅. I’ll still force myself to learn though

@prizm8530

Жыл бұрын

@@salutarysix6869 it’s fun, don’t think of it as work think of it as learning something fun and you’ll get pretty far

@iamtjahan

Жыл бұрын

@@prizm8530 Hope it went well!!

I teach a bit of keys and have had students come in not knowing what scales or even chords were and they've played sometimes 5+ years. They're a must learn!

How depressing. I thought I was early intermediate. Turns out I'm still a beginner.

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Don't despair! You will get better with time and practice. You got this! :)

@kirstenlund5159

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh, me too. Not even close to intermediate. 😭 I really appreciate these videos! They help me keep trying. 😁

@trdavid2127

4 жыл бұрын

Bro this is mostly theory u could have the skill but not the theory

@craiver00

4 жыл бұрын

I can do fast scales/arpeggios, consecutive octaves, far leaps, and thinks I'm already intermediate. But after watching those classical professional concert pianists, they blow me back to beginner level. It's actually depends per person how high they raised the bar.

@nafisdelacruz9703

4 жыл бұрын

it's not depressing objective observation of reality, and brutal acceptance, are the path to progress you must know where you are, and what is needed to move forward this video has shown you the way (if only by providing you the topics to research and practice)

Stopped watching after "a r p e g g i o s." My life hurts.

@solostar5882

4 жыл бұрын

When she said "arpeggio" my brain got the same feeling as when you get an unexpected item in bagging area - I thought arpeggio was a group of islands but that's the wrong word...

@rickneff-metal6275

3 жыл бұрын

@A7xandria - Arpeggios are very important to playing the piano. You don't have to play them fast or anything. But knowing arpeggios, you can make beautiful songs using them. Especially using arpeggios with your left hand to create beautiful rhythms. Just go slow with them. You will love them once you start using them. Just my opinion. :)

@jacobhatfield764

3 жыл бұрын

Arpeggios are actually really fun; to make learning them easier just throw in the left hand and add some filler inbetween. The best advice I can give is don't think just feel. Learn where to place your fingers and the movements need to get to the next key and than just repeat ad nauseam. The key to playing fast isn't thinking, it's getting the motion to the point of instinctual so you can start really spicing it up. I just learned three different arpeggios recently( my first time actually playing arpeggios actually lol) it took about three days to fully master them but I made up my own music while I was doing it and threw in little challenges like combining different Arpeggios together while moving up and down the octaves.

@konradzareba9935

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson is hiding in your closet

@hannahthellama

3 жыл бұрын

@@konradzareba9935 o h

Your personality resonates with me more than any other teacher online or in person. I’ve been playing for 17 years and learned by ear through most of it. So, I’ve fallen short when it comes to sight reading and theory. I can tell that you’ve had a lot of self doubt you’ve worked through and that you have faith in people to conquer the struggles that you had to. Thank you for making sight reading so much less intimidating!! And thank you for keeping it real in all of your lessons. ❤

That's actually really helpful! In terms of reading and playing I am definitely intermediate for a while now but in terms of theory knowledge I lack a lot and thanks to you, I finally know which points I've got to approach. Thanks a lot!

This isn’t an intermediate player for piano this is all music theory

@pointlessproductions7

4 жыл бұрын

old man I agree

@misplaymadeline5451

4 жыл бұрын

To be a piano player you should have knowledge in music theory

@misplaymadeline5451

4 жыл бұрын

To be anything other than a beginner in any instruments you should have knowledge in theory

@pointlessproductions7

4 жыл бұрын

Misplay Madeline I think it’s important to have a basic knowledge but not to the extent of learning about all different diminished 7ths and stuff like that

@misplaymadeline5451

4 жыл бұрын

pointlessproductions I think that having an advanced repertoire doesn’t make an advanced pianist. A beginner pianist can learn to play a difficult piece. The pianist who is no longer a beginner can understand the piece, that’s the difference

33 years of playing, I sight read and play sing a long at old people’s homes. But I see I’m a beginner with a lot to do.

@kathyd123

3 жыл бұрын

Amen Mr. Jones!!!!

@mrjones1862

3 жыл бұрын

Kathy D. Thanks

@MPardo-cx6jj

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrjones1862 LOL! You are not the only one. I am a "beginner" too, after many years of playing. But I'm going to pick up my ego, and keep it moving! I will remind myself of Stevie Wonder's song and you should too: "Don't You Worry About A Thing!" Like she said, let her video allow you to focus on your shortcomings. Doing so, you and me will be fine! If you LOVE piano, like I'm sure you do, just keep enjoying the process and you will reach your goals!

i started my piano classes two weeks ago, and yesterday was my second piano class. my teacher told me I should get a professional piano teacher, because he said my level was too high for a beginner and I’ve got potential lol

I played for a decent amount of time, albeit somewhat intermittently. But still around 5 years of exposure to piano. After watching this video, I realized that I'm not even CLOSE to being a beginner.

And now for the paradox: People not complying to these intermediate level standards, can regularly play intermediate pieces on a very good level. In the end, that is what counts the most.

@konradzareba9935

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson is hiding in your closet

@LoomiYT

3 жыл бұрын

You are only hurting yourself

@thomasreedy4751

3 жыл бұрын

But that is how intermediate players become intermediate, they just tackle the hard pieces with the intent of developing technique. They don’t press the keys blindly. Example: Chopin Etudes

@MITCH31785

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoomiYT Silly comment. They are hurting no one.

@christeerex

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shenautic There are many ways to make music- not all of them are based on theory. You forget that people have been making music long before anyone knew what chord progression was.

Why am I watching this I’ve been playing piano for 15 years

@hand1620

4 жыл бұрын

BritishIdiots gotta flex on those haters

@kpaigeboz

4 жыл бұрын

My same thought but I've been playing piano for almost 13 years

@ABCCBAAAAAABC

4 жыл бұрын

You want to feel good about yourself, I guess

@elijahtorres9111

4 жыл бұрын

Even the likes of you may still have more to learn

@aimeechauvin6906

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, 20 years here. Looking for some validation.

I've been playing the piano for 13 years (on and off) but apparently I'm still a beginner xD

What an awesome list of goals I now have. I am the type of player who can play fairly complex pieces and definitely impress my friends, however I like that your video really holds players to a true relative standard. I think the points you have raised show that if we look at musicianship on a spectrum, many people really do have a great deal to learn. Challenge accepted!

The video doesn’t really separate: Technique (like guys that look like they have 6 fingers) Music theory knowledge and experimentation Composition capability / creativity Maybe someone is a composition genius but lacks technique, maybe the guy plays all notes in a piano in 2 seconds. Both dont mean that you are bad, just mean that you are good at something rather specific.

@gabriellewashere7353

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the category that I really lack in is composition. I don't spend my time dancing on the piano trying to stumble across a unique order of notes. Instead I practice the things that I know play a part in my lessons and overall theory basis. The instructors don't particularly spend time on going over that either. I think that category was for people experimenting beyond their studies.

when you’ve been playing for 10 years but still can’t do fast scales

@lucaslucas191202

4 жыл бұрын

If you've played for ten years you'd be able to learn that in a heartbeat. That's what I don't really like about this video. It's all knowledge that a player with a large repertoire would be able to learn pretty fast.

@calypsoshere1

4 жыл бұрын

IExist the problem is that my teacher took out big scale books, we’d go through them until I just could kind of play them, then we’d move on. like i can play most of them, just sometimes my fingers just don’t work. some aspects of the video are frustrating for sure

@trdavid2127

4 жыл бұрын

It’s just practice bro practice one hour a day for like a week and you’ll see a big difference

@flyingpenandpaper6119

4 жыл бұрын

@@trdavid2127 Focused practice too. I can learn two bars in four months if I just "practice" by performing, or I can learn four pages in two weeks if I am committed. I've been playing for 10 years, but it's a habit I need to get out of, and actually one that got worse after I finished Grade 8.

@dimitristsiantos4106

4 жыл бұрын

Well, you can just start practicing in a slow rhythm and slightly increase the speed.

I'm 71. I recently learned I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. I studied theory and composition at a highly regarded music school from 1979-1983. I was a guitar player and a singer/songwriter. Still a songwriter. We were made to study piano in college because of it's ease at teaching theory. I've played a little through the years but for the last few years I've been adapting my songs to the piano. It has been quite eye-opening and encouraging to know I can still learn muscle memory and I feel like pretty soon I'll be ready to go back out and play again. Though my right hand is a mess, I can still finger chords and almost do my scales. Your left hand exercises are quite helpful. Thanks. I'm finding it easier and easier to learn and perform covers that I like. In my case, learning repertoire gets my chops working from a lot of different angles. I'll never be great but as long as I can keep learning and growing, I'll do just fine. Thanks for the help and God bless you.

@markwashington7518

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your story sir. what was the name of the school that you attended? Also how are you doing now?

@lsford777

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwashington7518 It was Marylhurst University. They closed their doors here withing the last few years; a Catholic school staffed by many extremely well-versed, classically trained nuns. I find myself steadily growing in muscle memory and beginning to venture into the flat keys. I think better and am more facile in the guitar keys (I played guitar for nearly 60 years.) It's so encouraging to feel the unthinking ease that playing is becoming. Even at 73, all that groundwork in theory and composition, and the daily woodshedding on the piano has me excited about moving on. I am working on a new album in my bedroom studio with the piano, not my guitar, as the centerpiece.

Well after playing for 14 years, being able to play any song I want to, playing by ear, for choirs and knowing jazz and improvisation, and knowing lots of really difficult pieces.... I am beginner/intermediate 😂

I think this video is just a reminder that everyone is simply a beginner by the looks of it

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Love this! :)

@ned4515

4 жыл бұрын

I can only play something by ear :/

@TheMeefive

4 жыл бұрын

Needed Privacy That means you're gifted. Some people are lost without sheet music. They have to take one hand off the piano to turn the page when they're playing for somebody. Funny thing is it's usually trained people who are envious of gifted people. I have an uncle who was invited to play for the queen he is self trained.

@The12thSeahorse

2 жыл бұрын

Well…..if we all compare ourselves to Mozart or Bach….then we are all complete beginners.

Thats "intermediate" in the world of someone who wants to be a musician, where the goal is excellence. In the real world of 7 billion people, that's already a good level.

@konradzareba9935

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson is hiding in your closet

Your video's are helping me piece everything together. I'm doing alittle of everything you've shown, but I get stuck reading the treble clef notes. Now that I'm learning chords it is helping. Thank you!

I agree that a pianist should know these things, super important, but I don’t believe all these things should separate what level you are at. I think what classifies a pianist as beginner, intermediate, or advanced, is really sight reading, technique, dynamics, and being able to identify what key a song is in (scales basically). I mean I play classically, so I don’t really know if that changes for jazz or pop. But I definitely agree that pianists should learn all these things! Thank you for the video :)

I think I'm just on the higher beginner level

This video’s “intermediate”: all the scales and arpeggios Truly skilled player: no, intermediate is moonlight sonata mvt 3

@jeffrey6172

4 жыл бұрын

No intermediate is la Campanella

@rehmmyteon5016

4 жыл бұрын

No

@heatherqualy9143

4 жыл бұрын

LOVE movement 3! But haven’t played it in years, would need about 6 months to “brush up” on it! 😂

@dustinholland6700

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if you're Lizst

@spectator9535

4 жыл бұрын

Scarbo.

I'm watching this again after 16 months of playing, and while I've got most skills of an Intermediate player, I still consider myself a mid to late Beginner. I don't care about speed, I've been working technique and I'm happy with my level of theory. But the knowledge of pianists impresses and humbles me. But it also motivates me.

Thanks Lisa! Like always you’re the best! There are two ways out of this video one is totally discouraged and the second one is happy for having a nice road map for improvement to enjoy the journey with clear purpose! Thanks again

For dynamics, I find it interesting you mentioned body movement. When looking at Horowitz, even at fortes like in Chopin's Op. 53(Heroic Polonaise), he didn't use his body a whole ton. It was all gravity and arm weight and it sounded magnificent. Now, using your body is a great way to visualize dynamics and give the audience something to look at, but it can be argued that its not necessary.

The intermediate player to me sounds like an advanced player.

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Piano has so much to dive into! We are working on some more advanced concepts right now and we can't wait to share it with everyone!

@randyedward1

4 жыл бұрын

I agree! If more pianists were "Intermediate" we'd have accompanists lined up at the doors to fill positions, which we don't...

@mattduncan3304

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'm wondering if Pianote did a list of what you need to know to be an Advanced Player, if I'd even understand what they she was saying.

@BenjaminGessel

4 жыл бұрын

An elementary level pianist can play a basic version of Ode to Joy with block chords in the left hand. An intermediate player with some practice can play M. Clementi's Sonatina in C. very well. An advanced piano player with some practice can play Debussy's Deux Arabesques, Clair de Lune, Golliwog's Cake Walk, etc. rather well. Semi-Pro pianists can play the tough stuff, much of it at least, without some of the polish and precision of the pro's. Some pieces are still a bit beyond the semi-pro. A pro (or VERY elite student) with a considerable amount of practice can play a Rachmaninov piano concerto, Chopin, Liszt, etc., well enough to perform publically, with a symphony, etc. A virtuoso can handle most anything written for the piano...

@ashleeee31

4 жыл бұрын

@@PianoteOfficial Can you please link to this video if it's up? :)

Very useful video, I definitely have a lot to work on. Love the videos on this channel - It's really helping me know what to work on, hopefully one day I'll get lessons, but this channel is brilliant.

Passed my licentiate in classical music recently, and you still blew my mind with the chord progressions lol. Never learnt anything about them, you're so on point when you said it's ignored

Grr im still a beginner. But I'm about to put a hour or two in now.

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, give yourself the time to learn and good things will come! :)

@brianbaumann9626

4 жыл бұрын

Same. At least now we have a list of what to work on to get to the next level.

@jerrymessier7799

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel bad I got ten thumbs

@henricodeklerk6978

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

@lauri6226

4 жыл бұрын

An hour*

me: *has played piano for over a decade* why did I decided to watch this an hour after I should've been in bed lol

@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104

4 жыл бұрын

You haven't played for over a decade you write like your 11

@victor93532

3 жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104 Geez, they are starting so young!

@wverdult

2 жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104 you also write like an 11 year old lol

@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104

2 жыл бұрын

@@wverdult What aspect of my astronomically short piece of literature screams "11"?

@wverdult

2 жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104 read your initial sentence again lol

This video helped me realize that I'm still a beginner....but I'm very close to being intermediate. All the while being self taught for only a few months. Proud of myself.

@ninavanvenrooij5660

Жыл бұрын

Second this

Thank you. Great information. I decided to learn how to play the piano after I retired. I have been taking lessons for six years and considered myself to be a beginner. My music instructor said that I was one of her better students, but I didn't believe her. After watching your presentation, I can classify myself as an early intermediate piano player. There are lots of areas that I need to work on such as building a repertoire of 10 pieces, working on advanced theory and techniques, but most of all I need to work on my confidence to be more successful regarding performing a piece of music for anyone. I still get nervous playing for my piano instructor. I have the knowledge and skills, but lack confidence in my ability. Right now, I consider myself to be a closet piano player.

Well I think i'm an intermediate who skipped a lot of classes at beginner level...

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

That's alright! Everybody has a different learning journey! :)

@calputpadtv7348

4 жыл бұрын

Made my day

@LeventK

4 жыл бұрын

IKR ROFL

I think a very important point that you missed is hearing. Like listening to a chord progression, and to be able to reproduce it. Or maybe being able to name Intervals just by hearing them.

@kingdededelicious

4 жыл бұрын

Precisely

@blauespony1013

4 жыл бұрын

If you count that in, I will never be anything more than a beginner - no matter the instrument. I do need my sheet music and then I am quite okay, but without it I am lost. And I tried training my ear for like 20 years (on flute).

@javierceron3270

4 жыл бұрын

That is some freestyle-jazz Music school-pro stuff m8

@philipmcniel4908

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't bring up the naming of intervals by ear--my ear-training professor says that when he used to teach that (yes, he *quit teaching that*), he knew it was the part of each ear-training exam where he could count on his otherwise-best students to get some wrong, and his otherwise-worst students to get a few right. He figured it wasn't a real indicator of one's aural skills, so he switched over to training us entirely by solfege scale-degree recognition. As for hearing and playing chord progressions by ear, that's a really useful skill in pop or jazz piano, but I'd say that you can call yourself an intermediate pianist without it. It's just that you should be ready to start learning that skill almost as soon as you are an intermediate-level pianist.

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Love the conversation! Listening can be a big part of learning music! Becoming familiar with certain sounds and patterns can help a lot with your practice and your performances for others! You should try and familiarize yourself with the patterns and sounds that you hear with everything you play on piano, but if reading the music is your thing then that is a great way to do it too! Everyone is different and at different skill levels, so figuring out what works best for you is an exciting part of learning about music. :)

That's absolutely really helpful! I have a lot to revisit and practice. You're an excellent teacher.

Thank you for putting this video together. You have highlighted some things I am doing but more importantly areas I have not been focused on. Thank you - well done.

What do you think? Did I miss any? You can download the checklist here: pianote.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/pdf/intermediate-player-checklist.pdf And here are the timecodes: - Technique - 0:54 - Chord Progressions - 3:14 - Music Theory - 4:45 - Repertoire - 6:25 - Dynamics & Emotion - 7:45

@dudeonthepiano9762

4 жыл бұрын

Thank You for addressing this all important question we all have! This video really helped me assess where I fall in this category based solely off of your suggestions. I'm pleasantly surprised to learn I'm closer to an Early Intermediate player as opposed to the Beginner that I've consistently referred to myself as. Your video also gives me some encouragement as to what areas I should've putting more focus on for well rounded development. Thank You!!!

@h_curly6384

4 жыл бұрын

I'm somewhere in between an intermediate and an intermediate beginner in terms of theory and scales. My teacher told me that I play at a grade 4 however Trills are still my bane of playing piano. Do you have any tips for improving the technique?

@alannoob1926

4 жыл бұрын

Your missing the fact that every intermediate player should at least be capable of playing flight of the bumblebee at 300BPM, 16 notes per second, and sacrilegiously.

@broncheemims8493

4 жыл бұрын

I think you covered every well

@jensovadina5954

4 жыл бұрын

I played violin for nine years. The Last year i was transferred due to too many students to a different teacher, she would scream at me when i did not learn something as well as she wanted And would tell me that if i'l do this then i should leave. She disgusted my passion for music And three weeks of not showing up to her lessons i came in, gave her a chocolate box And told her im leaving. She was suprised, IMPORTANT : i hated playing violin for the First two/three years. But in my seventh/eighth i finally got into it, started composing my own stuff And Just playing for myself. So yeah, this woman Just destroyed nine yrs of violin lessons, now i dont know how to play a single song on the violin. But then my passion for music Just left outta the Window. For one year i have not touched a single instrument. Year passed And i got a Cajon from my parents as a christmas gift, i still play it, it Filled me with Joy for some time. But then it kinda drifted away, you cant play sad music that i like, you can play along to it but not really. So when i started playing D&D, me as a DM, my crush And Four friends of ours (go Google D&D, its fricking awesome). So when we were talking my crush sat beside my grandmas 107+ yr old piano And started playing fairytale from shrek i was mesmerized. It was our most beloved song. When they left the other Day i šat behind the piano And typed: *piano easy lesson I started playing along And most of my friends learned piano And did so the classical way. I started asking them for advice And they told me not to follow these videos. I didnt have time Back then to go to music school AgAIn. So I told them thank you but no. Needless to say i stuck with the approach i had, i practised for 1 Hour every Day for the past 7 months. I think i turned from piano noob to advanced beginner. It still fulfills me to play even though i am not as good as my friends or even her. But after summer break i Will start talking piano lessons. My crush ( now my bff) really supported me throughout the year, with stuff such as my granny having two brain deaths in a row And me being the only one at home at that time. So yeah, i really apreciate her being There for me TlDR: sour And mean lady disgusted my taste for violin and music (after nine years) for over two years. But after my bff played me some piece from Shrek i got into piano And i loved it for the past 7 or so months. Next year i am talking piano lessons

I'm a gospel piano player so have chord progressions down to a science. Mostly learned everything by ear and have absolutely no portfolio lol because I play what I hear.... I'm not a beginner, not intermediate just lazy.... haha

You are a delightful person and a superb teacher. Your enthusiasm is contagious. Thank you.

I started learning piano a little over 20 days, this video has just encouraged me to know and practice more :) Thank you very much

I understand it all, well alot of it in my head...and find myself jumping ahead to boogie woogie and blues scales....love these online lessons!

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Boogie Woogie is always a blast! :)

@yungmattress4701

4 жыл бұрын

Steven Justice as a boogie woogie player, im probably considered advanced in some areas but beginner in others lol, theres not a lot of sheet music for boogie so a lot of it is learning by ear or watching others.

This video made me really happy. I always thought I was just a beginner because my peers are so much better than me at this instrument, but according to this I'm actually starting to be above an intermediate level. I'm very happy that I can consider myself to be a late intermediate or even early advanced player.

I found this video to be delightful! Thank you. I have a bachelor's degree in Music Education from the 1970's, and always felt that I failed as a music teacher because I couldn't play piano - I was a voice major - I love the way you distill the basics down to these few things. One thing I might add is the ability to play hymns out of the hymnal - homophonic basic stuff - as an indication of ability. I would love to reach out to you privately for help, now that I'm in my 60's, to really be a proficient pianist. Again, thank you for this.

The last point at 8:11 is so true. One thing is to hit the keys, but to play with the emotion and bring the intensity up and down to get across the spirit of the music is another thing.

Looks like I am beginning to be a beginner 😂😬 I’ll keep practicing! I’ll update this comment a year from now with my progress!

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to hearing from you then! Can't wait!

@PeaceNinja007

4 жыл бұрын

hows it going so far?

@artbeyondthewall9720

4 жыл бұрын

Peace Ninja good - can sight read but not quickly. A few scales down. I got an adult piano lessons for beginners and about 1/3 way through.

@PeaceNinja007

4 жыл бұрын

Art Beyond The Wall - Noice. 20+ years of playing piano and I can't read to save my life. Got everything else she mentioned down tho. You're gonna have an advantage over me if you keep at it, good luck :)

@Lime4114

4 жыл бұрын

How is it now

Looks like I'm still a beginner. So next goal for the new year: Become an intermediate player. ;-)

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Love it! Good luck!

@mostafay.3714

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! That’d be awesome to accomplish in one year! Way to go man

That's a good list. I had no doubt that I am a beginner, but it was good to hear about some benchmarks that will help me recognize when I reach the intermediate level, in the next 1 to 2 years. I tend to learn ahead of my ability to "do," so I am about 75% on the theory part. I have been working on this for about 18 months, with a full time job and many responsibilities, including choir for 25 years, but recently, I have ramped up my practicing to try to make better progress. As I told the pianist at our church recently (she has a masters in music, and is a competition winner, no less) that there is a lifetime of musicality inside me, but that guy has to dig his way out and be able to make my extremities undertake the needed movements to be able to play what is already a part of my deepest self, instead of just playing recordings of others over a commercial radio station. Aside from classical, there are influences for playing as diverse as Rick Davies (I have to be able to play that wild intro to Bloody Well Right) Donald Fagen, Chick Corea, Rick Wakemen, Tony Banks, Pat Moraz, Vince Guarldi, and Joni Mitchell, to name only a few. So, this is where I find out if I really have the guts it will take to be able to play like I can "inside".

May be a little late commenting, but I appreciate this video because it gives a good list of things to aim for. It's best not to take it personally in any way or to be discouraged. I'm thinking of it as a learning structure. Something to grind towards. Thanks for the great video, it's very informative

Based on these points I guess I’m a beginnemediate 😀 I taught myself how to play guitar 35 years ago and I’ve been teaching myself how to play piano for the past year. Your videos have been very helpful in this journey. Thank You!

Thank you for this! This tells me I’m still playing “with” a piano, rather than playing “the” piano! 😩

i know absolutely nothing about music theory or language, but at age 70 I can play better by ear, a whole range of chords, speeds, rhythms, and styles than many who have had years of training. (been playing for 60 years)Who knows what this means or what level I am?? but I am happy to say constantly progressing, developing more skills, simply by playing...and obviously still learning. Altho all the theory goes right thru me, I ALWAYS learn from "hearing new chords and ways to create and play in different styles....from both your versatility and talent, combined with your knowledge of, and passion for music. I always take something away that benefits me. THANK you Ms. Pianote. By the Way, what IS your name/ haven't heard it yet. Aloha from Hawaii.

Yay! I'm intermediate !!! I've been a Beginner for decades, learning theory and building skills, but not sure how my playing was going. Thanks for the nice video to help us keep a check on where we are when we're not quite sure!

Why am I watching this? I know my level..baby.. I’m a 4 days self-taught piano player and proud 😤

Well we are 2 minutes in and I realized after 6 years my piano teacher has teacher me nothing about scales 😄

I'm an advanced intermediate on the guitar, but I suspect I'm an early beginner striving for intermediacy on piano. I've learned Satellite Of Love and I'm starting to get some feel into it. With the guitar it's just second nature. This is a fantastic channel by the way. Thank you so much.

This was the perfect video, as I was beginning to wonder what level my playing was at. I feel very confident as an intermediate player. 🕺🕺🎶🎶 Thank you Lisa!

I am definitely a beginner. I am self teaching myself piano and this channel really taught me what are scales😂😂! But I've improved a lot since I began. Thank you ma'am for making piano easier for all of us. Btw love your voice😍😍

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Very happy to hear that you have improved! :)

@Sweetheart-ch4lm

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I've been using a book called "Learn to play piano in six weeks or less" by Dan Delaney & Bill Chotkowski you may be interested in. It's very informative and well structured. It has a lot of practice pieces in it too. KZread is very helpful but I found myself lost trying to figure out what to work on next. This book gave order to my self teaching.

This was a great presentation and delivered a solid foundation for what to work on. I would say I'm poking into intermediate level in some areas but there are many things that aren't quite there yet. I think it's quite useful to know where you are so you can pat yourself on the back for your progress, and still make it real so you can keep at it where you need to work on. A word about teaching, however - I've discovered that no one teacher provides the perfect formula forward. It's critical to equip those that are new with a few tools so they can creatively play and enjoy themselves without frustration. For example, get people into the black keys quickly because spacial awareness that comes with time will unlock a LOT of enjoyment - like the D, lower A, lower G, lower D and back up. Inversions can move you along quickly too and every newbie needs to discover passing notes. Push beginners into things that sound good quickly. The REAL fun for me isn't mastering songs, it's learning the things I can do to train my musical ear. The interest in songs should come much later when you aren't struggling to find the notes as much. Anyway, you're a treasure and I'm getting more from you now than I did early in my journey. I'm not being critical because I know all of you are trying to find that sweet spot. I'm loving all this...and I'm 72 years old.

I'm a beginner. Thank you for this! For a long time I didn't want to practice as I think I'll be stagnant for life and I won't learn that much. But you showed me which areas to develop (actually all, haha). Kudos!

I'm one hundred percent a beginner! Completely and utterly I'm hoping in 2 years I would be close to intermediate but I'm not going to underestimate the difficulty. Ive played bass guitar for 15 years so that helps a lot with dynamics, note recognition and rhythm. I can do c and d scales at 90bmp hands together, and I'm loving every second I play at the piano.

Your videos are spectacular! Most especially for piano players like me, i've learned a lot from u.... you definitely deserve more subscribers ♥️♥️♥️

@stefmaya7933

4 жыл бұрын

I AGREE WITH YOU ! She helps a lot !

Who else has a lot to learn?

@Clauds71

3 жыл бұрын

Me 😊

@konradzareba9935

3 жыл бұрын

Beef

@konradzareba9935

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson is hiding in your closet

I've worked on my technique, and within 2 months I've gotten a decent hand independence, started with playing Moonlight sonata mv3 arpeggios, then I had octave jumps with glisando in between the base hand with a simple melody, I'm quite happy.

SO TRUE, Instructor Lisa. Thank you for the checklist.

Love your voice and your playing/ I check 85% of what u said I only been playing 1yr. 2m. But I do play for my church

Self taught started in july 2018, whatever she said intermediate player need to know.. I know everything. Because i learned everything early on a guitar and just shifted those scales into piano .

One thing about them for sure, They've surely made a dream come true for me in last 2 years. What I could never do as a kid - Motivate myself to take piano lessons, Know I have love for music but could never stay motivated. I did it all while scrolling thru instagram and youtube. Hands down - The best "FREE" channel online to start learning piano or upgrade your existing techniques. Thank you so much Pianote and Lisa Ma'm.

This is informative, and helps to chart out your goals. Thank you. I'm definitely a beginner.

I am a beginner piano player. 8 months of practice and I'm not ashamed to say I'm still a beginner. But I can play hands together in every key, I know the diatonic chords in every key and am working on inversions. I started just practicing one chord per day but after listening to this I might just do that for a week at a time. I'm weak on my arpeggios so I'll spend more time on that. I have to gain more confidence in my musical abilities, but I lived my whole life telling people that I was born with two left ears. I'll start adding songs to my repertoire, especially Bach and Czerny. I have two method books, one in French and Faber. I'm about halfway through on both, but my lack of musicality is evident since my pieces are lacking. How much longer will it take me? I'm prepared for another couple years, but I'll take a piano teacher starting next year since my financial situation is becoming clearer.

Lol never cared about practicing scales so I guess I’m still a beginner. Also just performed the moonlight sonata, and am practising Chopin erude op. 10 no. 4

@evntex

2 жыл бұрын

Yes she put way to much emphasis on scales and chord inversions! Yuck.

I've been playing for 5 years, but I just recently found a passion for it. I've made so much progress since then, I can't wait to see what the next 5 have for me if I keep up the work.

Awesome info,thank you,love it👍👍👍👍👍

I would love you teaching on the different scales..harmonic..and the other scales you mentioned. And after that..I think I could call myself to the level of intermediate pianist. 👍👍👍

@PianoteOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! That's exciting! :)

I watched this as a beginner hoping I can at least call myself an “intermediate piano player” by now😂. But man does the truth hurt!! Thanks for the great content Pianote! Comments seemed conflicted about what elements differentiate among levels, but I do generally with all that you have said. Some may argue there is too much emphasis on music theory but how can you write a paragraph without knowing the basics of grammar or the English language? Music is no different. Theory IS the way of communicating music. I will take your content and turn in it into a checklist of items to master ☺️.

Thank you for opening my eyes👀. I realized (after 10+years of my first keyboard purchase), I’m still a beginner. Will surely work on these skills soon so that I can at least play few songs with some confidence.