WHAT KILLED THRASH METAL?

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What killed thrash metal? Some of what I talk about:
* The Big Four: Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer and Anthrax and other thrash bands like Exodus, Testament, Forbidden, and Dark Angel
* Crossover thrash bands like Suicidal Tendencies, DRI, SOD, and Excel
* The German thrash scene: Kreator, Sodom, Destruction and Brazil's version Sepultura
* How Pantera and grunge killed thrash, then Municipal Waste, Havok and Toxic Holocaust brought it back
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0:00 Intro
3:33 When I discovered thrash metal
6:47 The big four: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer & Anthrax
10:00 The Germans: Sodom, Kreator, Destruction & Sepultura
10:57: Crossover: DRI, SOD, Suicidal Tendencies
13:10 Prog thrash: Forced Entry, Believer, Watchtower
15:31 Did Pantera kill thrash?
18:31 Municipal Waste & the thrash revival

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  • @ThePunkRockMBA
    @ThePunkRockMBA2 жыл бұрын

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  • @TikkiNikki

    @TikkiNikki

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the bands inspired by the Big Four, but I really don't like the Big Four. I can't explain why. Even though my friends loved them and I played in bands where every musician learned to play because of them, I just couldn't get into them. Just not my cup of tea I guess but side from the solos, all their music just inst that interesting

  • @sanadayukimura1615

    @sanadayukimura1615

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Punk Rocker check out this - Capoxxo - Perfect ft Oaf1 and Dreamcache

  • @hollowpoint3188

    @hollowpoint3188

    2 жыл бұрын

    SLAYER BLOOD LINE AND BORN TO BE WILD!!!!!

  • @nickonuska529

    @nickonuska529

    2 жыл бұрын

    that’s the sound of an army of crust punks smashing the unsubscribe button

  • @shantheman6879

    @shantheman6879

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, we finally agree on a band....Kreator!!!!

  • @solearesoul
    @solearesoul2 жыл бұрын

    Too bad you didn’t like Megadeth… I think Rust in Peace is one of the best thrash albums of all time, a total masterpiece.

  • @adoodonline

    @adoodonline

    2 жыл бұрын

    Holy wars is one of the best if not the best composed songs in all of thrash metal.

  • @philcanselmo9436

    @philcanselmo9436

    2 жыл бұрын

    The best album for me

  • @solearesoul

    @solearesoul

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adoodonline that song is amazing. The riffs, the lyrics, the changes in tempo and melodies, the overall composition is pure genius craftsmanship and talent. Definitely my favorite song on the album.

  • @adoodonline

    @adoodonline

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@solearesoul agreed! for me its also the song that made me want to learn guitar!! 🤘

  • @c.w.9615

    @c.w.9615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Megadeth is great, but a lot of people don't like the vocals. I say its acquired taste. It's always polarizing when a vocalist does something completely original.

  • @takodabostwick8507
    @takodabostwick85072 жыл бұрын

    When thrash was dying off in the 90s, death metal became the huge deal. Cannibal Corpse, Death, Decide, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Carcass.

  • @Scrinwaipwr

    @Scrinwaipwr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally: when thrash began it was the heaviest metal you could get but then death metal (and black metal) came along and out-heavied it.

  • @superunknown2812

    @superunknown2812

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly punk bands were huge on the rise,grunge was in the early 90s,death metal bands were putting out the best albums of there starting career.And yes alternative rock bands like tool,white zombie etc were also killing it on the scene.One of the reasons why the music scene in the 90s was so memorable.

  • @takodabostwick8507

    @takodabostwick8507

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@superunknown2812 I could agree with that. We all know about the history of grunge and how it made a big impact on a lot people. Not only that, but punk was making a huge comeback! The 80s punk scene was fine. My favorites from the 80s are Descendents, Misfits, Bad Religion (although they figured out their sound and were huge in the 90s) and Social Distortion. I'm going with those basics because they are just that good and important in punk.

  • @brutallica2944

    @brutallica2944

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still cant belive Cannibal Corpse got huge, they suck big time.

  • @user-fj6kk1vo8n

    @user-fj6kk1vo8n

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brutallica2944 😂😂😂

  • @JonMB357
    @JonMB357 Жыл бұрын

    Thrash will forever be an important part of my life! Megadeth, Exodus, Slayer, Metallica, and Testament are some of the main contributors to my hearing loss.

  • @bjorn-falkoandreas9472

    @bjorn-falkoandreas9472

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah...yeah. Probably Testament at age 16 for me. Imagine going to a concert with those hearing protection ear buds in. Should have made that cool 30 and a bit years ago. OTOH, chimes, goddamn, we're looking old. You'll freeze and catch a cold because you've left your coat behind. Take your time

  • @Alan_Duval

    @Alan_Duval

    10 ай бұрын

    Ditto, but I'd add Flotsam & Jetsam and Forbidden :D

  • @markovisic7244

    @markovisic7244

    8 ай бұрын

    Overkill?!

  • @tobiasschaede397
    @tobiasschaede3972 жыл бұрын

    Power Trip would've surely taken the extreme metal throne within the next ten years, still devastated that Riley is gone...

  • @Grim_reviews

    @Grim_reviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    We all are

  • @markovisic7244

    @markovisic7244

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lamb Of God too...

  • @davidphillips9726

    @davidphillips9726

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw them open for LOG and Anthrax, they were f'n amazing live. So sad about Riley

  • @uhhwhateverdude9463

    @uhhwhateverdude9463

    Жыл бұрын

    Such a bummer dude…..

  • @IllusionaryFuneral

    @IllusionaryFuneral

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m lucky I got to see Power Trip when Riley was still alive. As soon as they hit the first note, someone stage dived and kicked me in the back of the head. It made me feel like I was in the 80’s, even though I was born in 1994.

  • @AlexH8280
    @AlexH82802 жыл бұрын

    "The Big Four are still doing great things and good music" Nay. RIP Slayer.

  • @anemaldemomusic8182

    @anemaldemomusic8182

    2 жыл бұрын

    it was actually about fucking time and the other bands should do the same and start record labels or something instead of doing the some old shit at least thats what id do

  • @juanarrizon3629

    @juanarrizon3629

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anemaldemomusic8182 FUCKING SLAYER!!!!! But yeah....it's over....smh

  • @marcthedashergd6321

    @marcthedashergd6321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe they might make a comeback though but it most likely won't happen. Who knows.

  • @padraigharrison6919

    @padraigharrison6919

    2 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy skating bowls switch to thrash metal Darkness descends

  • @marcthedashergd6321

    @marcthedashergd6321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you misspell thrash metal or did you do that intentionally

  • @SportsMetalBizkit
    @SportsMetalBizkit2 жыл бұрын

    "punk, hardcore and metal co-exist very peacefully", I really really like that quote. Thank you finn.

  • @aneneej

    @aneneej

    2 жыл бұрын

    then the nu-nation attacked.

  • @SportsMetalBizkit

    @SportsMetalBizkit

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aneneej nah men, nu metal was just the Ferrari that rushed by

  • @DragonTigerBoss

    @DragonTigerBoss

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SportsMetalBizkit It was Rollin' by.

  • @SportsMetalBizkit

    @SportsMetalBizkit

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DragonTigerBoss OMG UR A GENIUS XDDD

  • @nicholasromig5506

    @nicholasromig5506

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's true. and it's so weird. I'm in my late 30s and when I was a kid liking hardcore and punk usually meant you weren't also into metal. the punk kids at my high school were not down with the metal kids and vice versa. it seems so silly now because like...we clearly all like loud fast heavy music. why the fuck are we all so difficult about which band that's copping Slayer riffs we like more.

  • @asumz9141
    @asumz91412 жыл бұрын

    Megadeth was IT for me. I genuinely like Mustane's lyrics. And something about the whole underdog thing w/ Metallica turned me twords them .They also seemed less polished which appealed to me as well. Of course I was in my teens then and moved on since that time but Megadeth always holds a special place for me ....had ALL there "tapes" 🤣

  • @SuperCrazyPsycho731

    @SuperCrazyPsycho731

    Жыл бұрын

    Megadeth is the band to love because they're Megadeth and we're not

  • @lightsout979

    @lightsout979

    Жыл бұрын

    Megadeth > Metallica IMHO

  • @mike285

    @mike285

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SuperCrazyPsycho731 "Hey, we're Megadeth, you're not

  • @jakubkaras7810

    @jakubkaras7810

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@mike285😂

  • @burkaytanr7778
    @burkaytanr77782 жыл бұрын

    The reasons why Metallica got so big without promotion; 1. They did lots of live shows even before their debut came up 2. James Hetfield's vocals were completely a new thing (especially from ride to lightning and on) and were not corny at all. 3. The guys were the first ones to do thrash. 4. They wrote songs that can become rock essentials such as Fade to Black, Welcome to Home and One and put one of each in their early albums.

  • @NoahParker98

    @NoahParker98

    Жыл бұрын

    Right ?? Saying metallica is old school and corny is crazy . Megadeth I understand even tho I love em. But metallica? Come on. Least corny band ever in thrash . I understand the country track or entersandman I guess but they are timeless

  • @badground3534

    @badground3534

    Жыл бұрын

    1. Metallica wasn’t big until the 90s and they had huge promotion. 2. Metallica wasn’t the first thrash band ever… wtf are you even talking about. Master of puppets and kill ‘em all was really their only truly thrash albums. Ride and ajfa is kinda debatable (I consider Metallica thrash until AJFA) 4. Fade to black isn’t a thrash song. You seem like you have no idea what your talking about

  • @nikola5308

    @nikola5308

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badground3534 he said rock essentials where fade to black is and. Did you really say metallica is thrash until ajfa? The most thrashy album they made?

  • @badground3534

    @badground3534

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nikola5308 I consider Metallica thrash up to AJFA. That is far from their most thrashy album. Kill ‘em all is the most thrash album Metallica has ever done. Most consider kill ‘em all the only true thrash album Metallica has ever done but I disagree with that. After kill em all Metallica wasn’t really true thrash. Exodus, slayer and testament are examples of true thrash

  • @carlosf9278

    @carlosf9278

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nikola5308 Metallicas Thrashiest album was Kill Em All … no debate. Dave Mustaine in my honest opinion popularized thrash in America… but neither Metallica nor Megadeth made Thrash. I forget who started something that could be considered thrash but Metallica with Dave Mustaine made No life till leather and it’s successor was Kill Em All… Ride The Lightning is like Half Thrash and Half hard rock/ heavy metal since I believe at this time, Metallica as a whole was depressed for having their stuff stolen or something along those lines Master of puppets album is partially thrash but mostly heavy metal: Battery, Leper Messiah, Welcome Home sanitarium and Orion (maybe hard rock for Orion) And justice for all is either Prog Metal or Heavy Metal… but definitely not thrash metal People need to understand that Metallica was considered a thrash band by somewhat of a mistake… they’re mostly a heavy metal band …. But the fact also remains that one of their most popular song is Master of Puppets and so everyone just assumes Metallica is primarily a Thrash Band because of that…. Most of their catalog of the 80s can be considered heavy metal after the Kill Em All album 💿… if you want me to name every song then I’ll do it lol They’re great musicians overall… at least for the 80s and early 90s to me… Death Magnetic and Hardwired where pretty bad overall… they had some good songs but nothing compared to their 80s era …. Now you may say that age has something to do with it but a man called Eminem had 2 incredible comebacks well past his prime of the early 2000s…. 2009/2010 (recovery) & Kamikaze which dropped in 2018 I think Yes it’s a diff genre but any artist can do it… Metallica in the 2000s just started getting lazier… whereas Eminem apparently started getting crazier because he wanted to prove that no one can rhyme like him lol

  • @joshansharma4244
    @joshansharma42442 жыл бұрын

    According to me, As much as it hurts to say this, The band that made thrash metal most popular was the reason for its death - Metallica. In order to make Metal mainstream, Thrash metal had to be the sacrificial lamb and pave way. They had become millionaires after the Justice tour. The album had peaked on #6 despite being progressive and angriest. Without any support from MTV or any music video way back in 1988 (Damn) . The hype was real for their next album and they only reinforced their popularity by making the songs more straight forward. I believe had they made a thrash album it would have been popular and reached #1 but won't have 1/10th the impact the Black album has. The success they got was MJ/Maddona level and that's what it is.

  • @rl-fq9lz

    @rl-fq9lz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great comment.

  • @oceanaxim

    @oceanaxim

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting point!

  • @alchimerical2613

    @alchimerical2613

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed 100%

  • @majesticpbjcat7707

    @majesticpbjcat7707

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hit the nail right on the head

  • @Jeroen_K

    @Jeroen_K

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read the question of the video and thought: surely it’s the black album? Metallica simply moved on. Not so sure if that was a commercial move; they made 4 albums from the raw almost garage like trashy kill em all, through 2 quite melodic metal albums with symphonic tendencies to the brutal sound of and justice for all. Haven’t read into it, but wanting a different challenge as musicians sounds like a viable motivation for me. They finished the trash game and went to the next.

  • @timkirsten6184
    @timkirsten61842 жыл бұрын

    Metallica got so big without any promotion because their riffs are just that good.

  • @karlkaliweba

    @karlkaliweba

    2 жыл бұрын

    The first five albums by Metallica contain many of the greatest pieces of music ever written

  • @JInfinity7

    @JInfinity7

    2 жыл бұрын

    *were

  • @harrycollins3248

    @harrycollins3248

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonharris9160 I've always thought it was dumb that people say Metallica sold out and went commercial with the Black Album. It's just as relevant as their first 4 records imo.

  • @MikeysMorgue

    @MikeysMorgue

    2 жыл бұрын

    First 5? First 6! Load is a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned!

  • @steemonkey2000

    @steemonkey2000

    2 жыл бұрын

    With out promotion? They toured with Ozzy ffs. They made a video for One. They released an AC/DC album in 1991 that was all over the radio.

  • @wovendark
    @wovendark2 жыл бұрын

    Sad to see Overkill was not given a mention, truly underrated. Forced Entry is amazing! Happy to see them get a name drop

  • @burbs606

    @burbs606

    Жыл бұрын

    When COMA came out...... insane!!!

  • @utopianeconomics5814

    @utopianeconomics5814

    Жыл бұрын

    Years of Decay is the best pure thrash album ever made.

  • @DavidVega-wi5pr

    @DavidVega-wi5pr

    10 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah Forced Entry is fuckin way underrated

  • @merlesmith6794

    @merlesmith6794

    10 ай бұрын

    Thunderhead is my name!!!

  • @bensparks9147

    @bensparks9147

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DavidVega-wi5pr Grew up about 10 miles from where Forced Entry was from so l got to see em a lot , they were truly a brutal live band , watched a lot of people bleed in those pits , never seen em put on a bad show.

  • @ohalistair
    @ohalistair2 жыл бұрын

    Municipal Waste, despite being a recent band (by thrash standards), are God Tier. I think the leaning hard into the yelled/screamed vocals more than the 80s bands did really helps them too, because it's how I imagine thrash really should sound.

  • @jeremycarnes1656

    @jeremycarnes1656

    Жыл бұрын

    You're not very familiar with 80's crossover bands, I guess.

  • @theflyingguillotine3788

    @theflyingguillotine3788

    Жыл бұрын

    They are "meh" tier when you start digging deep.

  • @sukhbir6246

    @sukhbir6246

    2 ай бұрын

    Nothing original about Municipal Waste - their template is 80s crossover thrash. Agree the vocals are cool - always prefer thrash on the punk / hardcore side. Bands like Overkill, Testament, and Exodus, are just way too metal for my punk inclinations.

  • @MrxxSelfxxDestruct
    @MrxxSelfxxDestruct2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's the first time I hear Finn giving credits to something from Europe. We made it boys.

  • @stefantopuzov6140

    @stefantopuzov6140

    2 жыл бұрын

    Achievement unlocked 😆

  • @vonbl3

    @vonbl3

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's the only time when he didn't give us a passive-aggressive spanking.

  • @Tmrynr

    @Tmrynr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vonbl3 his black metal video is a prime example of him not getting European metal... I love all of Finn's videos though

  • @skippy8696

    @skippy8696

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tmrynr I agree, his black metal video was way too focused on image and marketing when it should have been how the music itself evolved. A less-educated person would leave thinking black metal was just reactionary movement against death metal and that's far too simplistic. If you listen to some of the German thrash bands like Sodom and Kreator, you can really hear what would be the beginning of black metal e.g. 'Burst Command 'til War' by Sodom features on the compilation CD 'Fenriz Presents: The Best of Old School Black Metal.' I used to own that CD and the reasoning Fenriz gives for including it and other songs is really cool to read.

  • @fynnbocker4054

    @fynnbocker4054

    2 жыл бұрын

    well it's hard not to like german thrash when you're into metal

  • @lexidarling
    @lexidarling2 жыл бұрын

    Seasons in the Abyss is indeed a total masterpiece.

  • @wolfcoma

    @wolfcoma

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @mason3872

    @mason3872

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, that’s my favorite slayer album. It’s so different and that’s why I love it.

  • @techdeathhippie6319

    @techdeathhippie6319

    2 жыл бұрын

    Divine Intervention is the greatest thrash album ever . Should have been called Reign in the Abyss

  • @derp9193

    @derp9193

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@techdeathhippie6319 Divine Intervention is definitely the most underrated Slayer album. Seasons is still my favorite though.

  • @MrMalicious5

    @MrMalicious5

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tom's vocals on it are lame and lack balls.

  • @BassManqk
    @BassManqk2 жыл бұрын

    Here are some old albums that are a must in my opinion: Annihilator - Alice In Hell 1989 Artillery - By Inheritance 1989 Cyclone Temple - I Hate Therefore I Am 1991 Dark Angel - Time Does Not Heal 1991 Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence 1987 Defiance - Beyond Recognition 1992 Forbidden - Twisted Into Form 1990 Heathen - Victims of Deception 1991 Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death 1990 Toxik - Think This 1989 Xetrix - For Whose Advantage 1990

  • @LuxeFilmography

    @LuxeFilmography

    4 ай бұрын

    *Xentrix

  • @fernandomunoz2737

    @fernandomunoz2737

    3 ай бұрын

    Atrophy, Sacrifice, Tankard, Cryptic Slaughter etc.

  • @toedrag-release

    @toedrag-release

    22 күн бұрын

    Razor - Violent Restitution Voivod - Killing Technology Coroner - Mental Vortex

  • @toedrag-release

    @toedrag-release

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@fernandomunoz2737 Sacrifice is underrated AF

  • @godless_goddess5985
    @godless_goddess59852 жыл бұрын

    I think a great thing about more modern thrash is having genre off-shoots like blackened thrash. Power Trip is also one of my favorite metal bands. Rest in Peace Riley.

  • @skippy8696

    @skippy8696

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, after the 2000s, it was all about the thrash crossover genres. I feel like I'm the only person who still likes The Haunted who took thrash and mixed it with the guitar sounds of Gothenburg style melodic death metal...I loved that sound in highschool 😂

  • @scottlame6724

    @scottlame6724

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. I hadn't heard Power Trip until I saw them open for Danzig with Venom Inc. They were outstanding, shame about Riley.

  • @uhhwhateverdude9463

    @uhhwhateverdude9463

    Жыл бұрын

    Steel Bearing Hand are a great blackened thrash metal band!

  • @whotfisjason
    @whotfisjason2 жыл бұрын

    Dave Mustane's autobiography was a fantastic read. Showed a lot of the behind the scenes in thrash back in the day.

  • @christhjian9923

    @christhjian9923

    2 жыл бұрын

    I liked the book too, especially the part where Dave was still with Metallica

  • @whotfisjason

    @whotfisjason

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@christhjian9923 honestly. It seemed like when he wasn't playing music he was on the prowl for cheap drugs and pussy lol classic

  • @ext93

    @ext93

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whotfisjason can you blame him? Lol music, drugs, and pussy are the best things after good food!

  • @whotfisjason

    @whotfisjason

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ext93 Preach my dude!

  • @craigroberts2302

    @craigroberts2302

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whotfisjason so dave mustaine has a book about getting gash and being in metallica? Thx

  • @ZackSeifMusic
    @ZackSeifMusic2 жыл бұрын

    Metal just got heavier and more technical and has continued to. We saw a lot of Metallica inspired bands like BFMV in the early 2000s, and you're right that The Black Album continues to top iTunes charts, despite the album itself being more commercial (but a phenomenal record).

  • @gerryfromthevoid8986

    @gerryfromthevoid8986

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish more metal bands would focus on writing songs and not so much try to out-thrash or out-br00tal everyone else. metallica may be sellouts but you can't deny in the 80s their compositions had enough of a 'song' feel to make it musically amazing even if none of them were the best or fastest at their instruments

  • @OaksArmorial

    @OaksArmorial

    2 жыл бұрын

    The black album blows, dude. Come on.

  • @ZackSeifMusic

    @ZackSeifMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OaksArmorial it has fantastic production, guitar tone and songwriting. What point are you trying to make? If the album “blows” why is it STILL on the charts 30 years later? 😉

  • @OaksArmorial

    @OaksArmorial

    2 жыл бұрын

    As if the charts are in any way an indication of quality.

  • @ZackSeifMusic

    @ZackSeifMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OaksArmorial In this case it’s longevity. Crappy records don’t continuously sell decade after decade. It’s influence. Most bands don’t continue to inspire and influence decade after decade.

  • @AskesisGrappling
    @AskesisGrappling2 жыл бұрын

    I would say the love that early/mid 2000's metalcore and NWOAHM bands were giving their thrash metal heroes really went a long way to reviving its popularity. I was into metal already and a big metallica fan when I was about 15/16 but the thrash influences evident in new bands like Trivium, BFMV, Chimaira and Sylosis as well as Machine Head having their resurgance about that time sent me down the route of discovering Testament, Exodus, Megadeth, Sepultura and mamy others.

  • @SIRJ1895
    @SIRJ18952 жыл бұрын

    I think the fact that nobody ever mentions overkill is a tragedy. One of the best thrash bands ever.

  • @brettrossi034

    @brettrossi034

    Жыл бұрын

    I just thought this before I found this comment

  • @daviddoyle8956

    @daviddoyle8956

    9 ай бұрын

    And they got there name from a Motorhead album and when asked about it they said they never heard of Motorhead motorhead started it.

  • @SIRJ1895

    @SIRJ1895

    9 ай бұрын

    @@daviddoyle8956 surely they were just being smart assess about not knowing about Motörhead.

  • @vinnregi4882
    @vinnregi48822 жыл бұрын

    So basically, the scene got oversaturated with tons of new Thrash bands, Vulgar Display was the reality check, then new genres started popping up (Alternative Metal, Death Metal) and Grunge put the tombstone to it. Cool! Great video man!

  • @evelynstenberg

    @evelynstenberg

    2 жыл бұрын

    yup, basically

  • @blackdragon6

    @blackdragon6

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah basically lol

  • @spiderfan1974

    @spiderfan1974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same old shit, different day you can summarize every genre's inevitable "death" with that statement.

  • @lopolik

    @lopolik

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love Vulgar Display, but I love (Cowboys from hell, Far Beyond Driven, and the great southern trendkill) all more than Vulgar Display.

  • @AA-bl6sg
    @AA-bl6sg2 жыл бұрын

    Thrash is still massively important for me as a guy in his mid 30s, even though I grew up with Nu Metal, but over the years it kinda became my favorite Metal genre, or at least pretty equal with Nu Metal. There is simply much more quality in it than in most other Metal genres

  • @ceedivine

    @ceedivine

    2 жыл бұрын

    You and I both. Love them both equally

  • @bamafencer12

    @bamafencer12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thrash Metal 4 LIFE!

  • @doomusrlc

    @doomusrlc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree here. I'm roughly the same age. Grew up in middle school and into high-school on Korn and Deftones. Metallica as well, and eventually went deeper into it all. Thrash is probably my favorite style overall and has been for a long time.

  • @masonlitowsky

    @masonlitowsky

    2 жыл бұрын

    I grew up with thrash and will always love it. But to say it has so much more to offer tells me that you don't listen to anything else, or don't play any instruments. There's so much wild shit happening in modern metal.

  • @doomusrlc

    @doomusrlc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@masonlitowsky I agree here too haha. Metal is so expansive anymore and it's just going to get crazier. About the only styles I don't care for too much are power metal and black metal. I've been really into a lot of the newer death metal scene lately. Thrash just holds a special place in my heart, so to speak, haha

  • @scottjenkins508
    @scottjenkins5082 жыл бұрын

    Hi Finn. This thrash episode is my first time experiencing your channel. Had to watch because I was a part of the scene. I began playing guitar in 1982, so I witnessed the birth of thrash. I would play to Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax, S.O.D. albums front to back. 1986, my graduation year, I and my brother in metal started the band MANIACAL GENOCIDE. We released 3 demos from 1988 to 1990, got endorsed by VANS shoes and B. C. RICH guitars. Sadly, we never got the opportunity to sign with a label and we disbanded in 1992. For me, thrash never died. I love that it has seen a resurgence. I agree with you on Municipal Waste. Gama Bomb is also a great thrash band. I still play guitar and drums, still in touch with the guys from the band. I am also now, a subscriber of your channel. My name is Scott Jenkins, I live in Central Point, Oregon and I am 53 years old. Metallica made 4 fantastic albums, that's it. I am sure they are now, sucking dick and getting ass-raped by the satanic elites that oversee all industries. You do not get to their status, without paying a price. You do not become supremely wealthy, without paying a price. From Hollywood to sports to modeling to music. You want fame and fortune, you must take part in the rituals. No exceptions. I am glad, the opportunity I sought, never arrived. Later.

  • @andyking3610
    @andyking36102 жыл бұрын

    I still remember buying my first Metallica album at Music Plus, Master of Puppets. On cassette in the summer of 1986, after I saved up my allowance and recycling aluminum cans for a couple weeks.

  • @scotts.3636
    @scotts.36362 жыл бұрын

    I'm old enough to remember when thrash started. My first thrash concert was Megadeth Peace Sells Tour. Heard Metallica in 1984 and the journey began. I remember listening to the Big Four, Testament, Exodus, Death Angel, Dark Angel, Metal Church, Forbidden, Laaz Rocket, Overkill, Sepultura, Suicidal Tendencies, Coroner, Destruction, Kreator, Vio-Lence, Voi Vod...many more that I forgot.

  • @Tobolose
    @Tobolose2 жыл бұрын

    Sepultura ARISE is my favorite metal album of any genre.

  • @robwalsh9843

    @robwalsh9843

    2 жыл бұрын

    The whole album rips faces off. Great production as always from Scott Burns.

  • @Thekidyusuke
    @Thekidyusuke2 жыл бұрын

    I’m 25 and I love thrash. Wish I lived in the popular thrash metal era.

  • @TheAdventuresofTNT
    @TheAdventuresofTNT2 жыл бұрын

    This video is amazing. Incredibly informative and insightful especially since I’m relatively new to the genre.

  • @Hubabuba258
    @Hubabuba2582 жыл бұрын

    I loved thrash as a teenager. To this day I have cringe memories of writing the names of my classes (matematyka, historia etc.) using the fonts similar to those of the thrash bands. I even got my totally not-metal friend into Slayer and persuaded my mom when she was baking bread into allowing me to write 'Slayer' in order to make a Slayer bread. Good times.

  • @rubif5797

    @rubif5797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff man 🤣

  • @overthemountain16

    @overthemountain16

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha I did the same thing too. Wrote my classes and name in Metallica and slayer fonts. Even names for my hypothetical band lol

  • @sepultura7771

    @sepultura7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did same thing LOL

  • @sparkpenguin

    @sparkpenguin

    2 жыл бұрын

    the bread thing is so wholesome lol whatta awesome mom

  • @stefantopuzov6140

    @stefantopuzov6140

    2 жыл бұрын

    So you appropriated the thrash aesthetic before it was mainstream 😃

  • @IOxyrinchus
    @IOxyrinchus2 жыл бұрын

    The rise of Death Metal was the downfall of Thrash, especially considering the former is an evolution of the latter. I love Thrash though, it got me into metal and I would love a resurgence of it

  • @takodabostwick8507

    @takodabostwick8507

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had just said that too! Death metal was huge in the 90s! Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Obituary, Suffocation, Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Death and Opeth! Lots of great metal for the 90s, although I do personally prefer the 80s.

  • @CDCrest

    @CDCrest

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yo, the 2010s was a huge resurgence of thrash.

  • @doublewhat07

    @doublewhat07

    2 жыл бұрын

    Late 2000s and Early 2010s had a ton of Thrash Revival. Warbringer, Gama Bomb, Evile, Municipal Wate, Toxic Holocaust, Lazarus A.D. and many more.

  • @IOxyrinchus

    @IOxyrinchus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CDCrest I don’t feel like it really did justice to it though, yeah there was some awesome bands like Havok but a lot of them felt like a parody of the genre to me

  • @undinism69

    @undinism69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, hearing master of puppets and Reign in blood in 87, changed my life 100% for the better. Got into huge variety, and extreme / fusion stuff but still love the 80s thrash stuff I grew up with musically.

  • @carly829
    @carly8292 жыл бұрын

    Hey just wanted to stop and say I love your content. As an old rocker from my middle school days, who has listened to many many bands over the years, I love learning about anything and everything rock and metal. Been watching/listening to your vids while I work and enjoy your take on things, sir!

  • @joecarroll3371
    @joecarroll3371 Жыл бұрын

    Finn, I wanna thank you for all this great content. It's not only great but you're opening my eyes to more music than just what I'm familiar with. Thank you so much.

  • @trendkill1909
    @trendkill19092 жыл бұрын

    Arise is awesome. Opens with one of the hardest trifectas with Arise, Dead Embryonic Cells, and Desperate Cry. So good.

  • @j.t.thomas1859

    @j.t.thomas1859

    2 жыл бұрын

    HELL YEAH I AGREE

  • @dylanadams1455

    @dylanadams1455

    2 жыл бұрын

    Desperate Cry is so satisfying to play on guitar with a loud amp.

  • @ruddigerhardington4797

    @ruddigerhardington4797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I'm not an absolute expert on thrash but I'd put it in the top three or four thrash albums of all time alongside Metallica, Slayer and Megadeth depending on which thrash (yes, not including the Black album and Countdown to Extinction) album of theirs one prefers. It also doesn't have any power ballads which makes it heavier than any post Kill-'Em-All Metallica album.

  • @majesticpbjcat7707

    @majesticpbjcat7707

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dead Embryonic Cells has, probably, the best breakdown in the history of breakdowns.

  • @dylanadams1455

    @dylanadams1455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@majesticpbjcat7707 Majestic AF!

  • @amx1820
    @amx18202 жыл бұрын

    Genres like Punk, Thrash, Nu, etc. will never die as long as electric guitar and distortions are made

  • @scottjenkins508

    @scottjenkins508

    Жыл бұрын

    Hit the nail on the head my friend. Speaking as a guitarist of 40 years now, the very fact of the genre of rock and metal and every single fucking off-shoot being attributable to one sound, that which is the distorted guitar, never gets mentioned or at the very least never given the spotlight and focus it deserves. Distorted guitar is THE defining sound. Period. End of discussion. Anyone seeking to argue that , is either utterly ignorant, or completely fucking stupid. Another thing I am endlessly tired of and cynical about, is the fucking dumb ass labels that have to be given to anything, or anyone that is talented and skilled enough to produce something "fresh" sounding. Pantera is the prime example. They were just simply fucking good at what they did. They did not require a new definition, new genre, new label slapped on them to make their music real or relevant. They produced great fucking metal. Nothing more has to be said. All you have to do is listen and the music speaks for itself. Groove metal is a meaningless fucking term invented by weak- minded individuals talking out of their ass. Like Pantera was the first metal band to groove? Are you fucking kidding me? You can go all the way back to IRON BUTTERFLY, BLUE CHEER and the godfathers of metal BLACK SABBATH and experience groove. Categories are defined by people that don't play an instrument and do not know what the fuck they are talking about. Cheers brother.

  • @donnienarco144

    @donnienarco144

    Жыл бұрын

    Nu metal should definetely die

  • @johnhaupenthal
    @johnhaupenthal2 жыл бұрын

    I love all the band suggestions I pick up in your videos like this about a genre that I love. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @christhjian9923
    @christhjian99232 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite videos by you, really well done! I'd add that the old bands were responsible for revival also. Kreator, Slayer and Testament among many others returned to their thrash roots in the 21st century.

  • @ItsRMFL
    @ItsRMFL2 жыл бұрын

    Arise and chaos AD from Sepultura are absolute classics!🤘 also I call it the big 5 adding testament

  • @ChainsawChristmas

    @ChainsawChristmas

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just think the real big 4 includes testament and excludes Anthrax. So much better

  • @Neo-Midgar

    @Neo-Midgar

    2 ай бұрын

    ​​@@ChainsawChristmasThe Big 4 was not "The 4 best Thrash bands", it was "The 4 best-selling and popular Thrash bands". Everybody seems to forget that. Everyone can have their favorites, but the Big 4 are tue Big 4 for factual reasons. If Testament was to be in there, they'd have needed to sell more than at least Anthrax.

  • @lordtrigon1733
    @lordtrigon17332 жыл бұрын

    It was Nightmare Logic that convinced me I was wrong about the new wave of Thrash that it wasn’t just an ironic hipster joke at the genre’s expense and I had a lot of catching up to do. Rest In Peace Riley. 🤘🏻 Wonderful video Finn.

  • @OmniTron1000
    @OmniTron10002 жыл бұрын

    I still can’t get over Riley’s death. I was at the last Power Trip show in LA just before the lock down. It was my first PT show, I remember leaving and thinking “I can’t WAIT to see them again! That was incredible!” Few months later, I heard the news of his death…

  • @patrickquinnsucks

    @patrickquinnsucks

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fentanyl

  • @ALFIEMETAL
    @ALFIEMETAL2 жыл бұрын

    I love your What killed series. What is refreshing is that you actually try to steelman genres that don't appeal to you but with that give give criticism of said genre or style that is more than just "Her her it's fill of shit amirite" but also giving it in a humourous way that isn't portrayed as condescending. Keep up the good work man!

  • @andrewg7576
    @andrewg75762 жыл бұрын

    “On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.” - Unnamed Narrator

  • @JackAllman

    @JackAllman

    2 жыл бұрын

    we dont talk about that... :)

  • @abrahamdrinkin4557
    @abrahamdrinkin45572 жыл бұрын

    Sepultura is my favorite when it comes to groove and thrash. Hell, even Bestial Devastation almost sounds like some proto black metal album. Beneath The Remains and Arise are my favorite thrash albums.

  • @patrickquinnsucks

    @patrickquinnsucks

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @Senses-Failed

    @Senses-Failed

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try chimaira and devildriver

  • @fernandoguedes4952

    @fernandoguedes4952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sarcofago, the mist and psychic possessor are good as well..and korzus...all from brazil too

  • @dwaynerush9599

    @dwaynerush9599

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved how they walked the line between death and thrash.

  • @hipnofago2102

    @hipnofago2102

    Жыл бұрын

    IMO, Sepultura was doing death-thrash along with that proto black metal (german) thrash bands were creating. Possessed still are the first death metal band/the first to record an album of the style, but Sepultura also debuted in 1985.

  • @sebastianjaromi3540
    @sebastianjaromi354011 ай бұрын

    Freeakin Love that you mention the Accused and Excel! two highly underrated bands from that era! Love watching this videos man Keep up the great work.!!!!!!

  • @opadkins
    @opadkins2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool to hear you reference Forced Entry. I thought I was the only person who rembered them and still listened occasionally.

  • @RanterInShades
    @RanterInShades2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't exactly call Thrash Metal one of my favorite genres, as I can get burned out on it pretty easily, but I definitely view it as one of the most important if not the most important genre of metal. I feel a lot of the tropes we view as normal today are thanks to Thrash Metal. And along with that, it was able to create a rift in the 80's metal scene that I see as responsible for helping metal to evolve as opposed to sounding like Judas Priest or Quiet Riot all the time.

  • @robwalsh9843

    @robwalsh9843

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then again, Judas Priest most definitely influenced thrash. Dissident Aggressor is almost a proto-thrash song. I think one of thrash's most important characteristics was blending punk and hardcore with metal.

  • @abloshow91

    @abloshow91

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thrash was really the first "extreme" metal

  • @Aramis___0_o

    @Aramis___0_o

    Жыл бұрын

    You should listen to Quiet Riot’s first 2 albums. They had a completely different (and in my opinion) better sound before they went mainstream and lost Randy Rhoades. It’s much more loose and dynamic compared to their newer more raw sound that was developed in their later albums.

  • @MrNEWDY
    @MrNEWDY2 жыл бұрын

    DRI will always be a fave for me. I got to fill in on drums for them for a few songs in seattle several years ago. Life changing moment for me when spike said he was relieved that I could play the songs, and he didn't have to give me cues and he could just get into it and not worry(opener's drummer tried to fill in and knew none of the songs and was not good). One of the best days of my life, they even signed my shirt after the show. I played acid rain and beneath the wheel with them. Still got my copy of acid rain on cassette.

  • @thermalxx99
    @thermalxx992 жыл бұрын

    My top 3 favorite albums of the genre: Seasons in the Abyss, ...and Justice for All (not the biggest Metallica fan neither, but much respect to this solid album), and Act-III (Death Angel

  • @michaellazor5667
    @michaellazor56672 жыл бұрын

    Finn. Thanks for covering this one. I was hoping you would.

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff57772 жыл бұрын

    If you can get I’ve the vocals, I really feel like Xentrix was the best thrash band and “For Whose Advantage?” was the best thrash album ever. Excellent songwriters, excellent musicians, heavy riffs.

  • @justahumanbeing.709

    @justahumanbeing.709

    2 жыл бұрын

    from UK, UK had some good thrash bands Onslaught, Acid Reign, Slammer.

  • @jakobthonen9411

    @jakobthonen9411

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah that's a great album!

  • @KhaosKontroller
    @KhaosKontroller2 жыл бұрын

    Really, the only thrash band that always stuck with me, is Evile. Especially their album Five Serpent's Teeth. I'm not a thrash fan at all, but that album is a masterpiece. Sad their singer got replaced. His voice was far more melodic than that of most thrash vocalists. Really brought a unique element to their music. Oh yeah and Testament is pretty dope too. Mainly Dark Roots of Earth.

  • @Nope-sq6dv

    @Nope-sq6dv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes sir! Five Serpant’s Teeth is amazing! They just released a new album not too long ago. Haven’t really listened to it enough to form an opinion though.

  • @misterkeithb

    @misterkeithb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, I honestly thought the "this band brought the revival" was going to be Evile tbh

  • @danielg6996

    @danielg6996

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nope-sq6dv Hell unleashed good song, rest of album is meh.

  • @marcthedashergd6321

    @marcthedashergd6321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes the band that is a victim of a fake Metallica song. I think the Evile song that was labeled as Metallica is Underworld, which actually got more views on youtube than the actual Evile music video

  • @erghjunk
    @erghjunk2 жыл бұрын

    enjoyed this a lot, and not just because I still love thrash! I think your point about dilution of a genre scene (my phrase for your idea) is a really astute observation, and probably widely applicable to a lot of music scenes, especially "sub-genres." Pop-punk comes to mind - like once we reached the point where there were like 20 entire labels that only put out pop punk.... clearly the ship had sailed on that particular sub-genre. anyway, great video and thanks.

  • @deathmetalchili6902
    @deathmetalchili6902 Жыл бұрын

    BRILLIANT VIDEO! I grew up during the inception and rise of Thrash Metal. I was in High School when Seasons In The Abyss, Extreme Agression, Beneath The Remains, And Justice For All, Rust In Peace....etc.......that time was a phenomenal time for Metal. And......the first era of Death Metal, Swedish Death Metal....etc. Happened right after that crazy Thrash peak!!!!!! Which was equally as awesome!!!!!

  • @karymthekoolguy
    @karymthekoolguy2 жыл бұрын

    Thrash defined my life in high school in the early 2000’s I loved Dark Angel, Sodom, Exodus. Tbh i think being so into thrash was my reaction to the fact that emo was so big in my era.

  • @vonbl3

    @vonbl3

    2 жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @patrickquinnsucks

    @patrickquinnsucks

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol that was me in mid to late 2000's

  • @chrismccarthy5275
    @chrismccarthy52752 жыл бұрын

    Thrash was my first obsession. My brother's cassettes were never safe. I broke his door lock so i could sneak into his room when he was at work and listen. Still have a couple of them in a box....maybe I should return those....

  • @HeritageWealthPlanning
    @HeritageWealthPlanning2 жыл бұрын

    Damn- Finn always hits it outta the park. Dark Angel! Yes!!! Can’t believe you mentioned Excel too! Damn been decades since I heard them!

  • @awefense7758

    @awefense7758

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dark Angel Darkness Descends is awesome! Four of the seven tunes are on all of my media to this day! Leave Scars has some good tunes too!

  • @cameronw87
    @cameronw872 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video. I am really into Brazilian metal but had never thought of the German influences on Sepultura before. I am keen to check out those German bands now.

  • @satesup4353
    @satesup43532 жыл бұрын

    Metallica came from Thrash Metal to Mainstream Heavy Metal. A7X came from Metalcore to also Mainstream Heavy Metal... . I need a new Mainstream Heavy Metal these days.

  • @adammorris1943
    @adammorris19432 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to watching this. Nevermind and the Black Album were both release in 1991. Yet, radio stations quickly changed to the grunge alternative format because of the popularity of Nirvanna. However, Metallica outsold them almost 2 to 1, so what gives? Shouldn't the Black Album have lead to a metal peak in the 90s, where instead it went underground.

  • @pissingspeedrun

    @pissingspeedrun

    2 жыл бұрын

    The black album got plenty of radio play, that was their mainstream break away from thrash, when I was younger (like 7 years ago lol) I remember my 13 year old self was calling radio stations just begging them to play something off MoP, but it was always sad but true or enter sandman that would come on, it was more radio friendly and that’s what they were trying to go for

  • @patrickreichert1442

    @patrickreichert1442

    2 жыл бұрын

    i like your analysis. What i see is that Nirvana was pop, Metallica, tho popular, were not pop

  • @flanky2020

    @flanky2020

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickreichert1442 I would say they were both pop and that is OK. And in this day and age they are even more pop. Just look at who is wearing their t shirts right now.

  • @adammorris1943

    @adammorris1943

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pissingspeedrun Nirvanna and Metallica both got tons of radio play and MTV. The question is, why didn't those same stations play the copycat Metallica bands when they all played the Nirvanna clones?

  • @pissingspeedrun

    @pissingspeedrun

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adammorris1943 that is a great point, they were still huge at the time but thrash had completely lost its roots at that time and it’s hardcore fan base from what I’ve heard was kinda disappointed in what was coming out. I could literally go on about this for hours lol. It seemed like a weird time for rock and metal in general. I think grunge was just more friendly to play on the radio because nu metal was on the rise too, it was absolutely exploding in the late 90s but was insanely aggressive and different for its time. Radio stations are making their money off playing music for the companies paying them to advertise on their station. Grunge still sees huge play on radio stations and I think it just had that mass appeal that was perfect for them. Even Metallica dove into a grungy kind of sound and even experimented with nu metal sounds in st anger, they dove into trying to fit in with what was exploding around them

  • @bdr113080
    @bdr1130802 жыл бұрын

    I’m 40 years old now and I guess one reason why I never thought about thrash metal dying was because really back in the early and mid-90s we didn’t try to put so many different sub genres into Metal. For example when Pantera came out myself and no other metal fans that I knew went out of our way to call Pantera groove metal. To us Pantera was just a newer form of thrash metal that was more street influenced in a little more hard-core. I mean back then The only real sub genres of metal were like the classic metal bands like Black Sabbath, Motörhead, AC/DC, Judas Priest, and Iron maiden. Then you had death metal which was your cannibal corpse, Morbid Angel, obituary, etc. and then I guess Goth metal was just kind of peeking its head with Type O Negative, of course there was the glam/hair metal, And everything else like Pantera, slayer Metallica, Megadeth, Sepultura , overkill etc. I guess would be the bands we considered thrash. Hell it wasn’t until sometime in the 2000s that I heard somebody call Pantera groove metal. And in the south where I spent most of my life where I was raised Marilyn Manson really wasn’t that popular with southern metalheads. The only ones that really listen to him in the metal crowd were girls and even if guys did they were too scared to really admit to anyone that they were a fan of the guy that got up on stage in women’s underwear. And I’m not saying that’s right or wrong I’m just saying that’s how it was back in the 90s. But honestly most people back then before the days of Nu Metal just called metal “metal” . We really weren’t going to divide ourselves up into little groups on who like death metal and who like thrash metal because as long as it was metal we all pretty much loved it. As far as trash dying in 1992 I would probably have to disagree. Now were there new thrash bands coming out after 1992? No not really but I think a shit load of people got into thrash around that time. I’m not saying Metallica’s black album is the best thrash album ever, I mean I like it but it didn’t sound as 80s like other thrash metal bands were doing. And the more important thing that Metallica black album did in the early 90s was it got a shit load of people to get into thrash metal. Metallica’s black album got so many people into older Metallica and then they started picking up other albums by other thrash bands. I mean around 1992 is about the time Megadeth had their best selling album of all times. Countdown to extinction went double platinum around that time. So it’s not like metal fans were throwing away their CDs and saying that it’s over and we’re just going to listen to death metal and Pantera and rage against the machine from here on out. No we kept listening and loving to thrash like we still do today but you embrace the new genres of metal as they come out as well. In the end I don’t think it matters what anyone’s opinion of thrash is but I think we can all agree that besides classic metal, the bands that started it all, thrash is without a doubt the most influential genre of metal. Death, Nu, Groove and alternative metal old were heavily influenced more by thrash than any other type of music.

  • @michaelsantangelo7997
    @michaelsantangelo79972 жыл бұрын

    great video Finn....I'm mostly a death metal and grindcore guy, but thrash was totally my entry point into metal. Your video made me want to go listen to some thrash.

  • @dude6779
    @dude67792 жыл бұрын

    Thrash is a huge part of the core of metal so it wont ever truly die. Perfect example Alien Weaponry 🤘

  • @vonbl3

    @vonbl3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thrash gave birth to Death Metal, Black Metal and Metalcore, three genres that are still going strong even to this day, especially the third one. You can totally hear the Thrash in all of the above.

  • @crazydud3380

    @crazydud3380

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just about any metal genre outside of power metal and prog has thrash influence.

  • @Thracian117

    @Thracian117

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ide say so, even trivium started out as a metallica tribute act and their early sound was very thrash

  • @finewine256xx

    @finewine256xx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alien weaponry play thrash metal with groove very Sepultura sounding love them they have huge potential

  • @thomo2127

    @thomo2127

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@finewine256xx idk about that they sound nothing like thrash

  • @lopolik
    @lopolik2 жыл бұрын

    The first albums by Sepultura and Kreator (Morbid Visions, and Endless Pain) sounded more like death / black metal, and later their albums were more thrash it's interesting. Kreator and Sepultura first albums actually influenced death metal a lot, even though the first death metal album, most would say was ''Seven Churches'' by Possessed.

  • @LuisCastillo-rt5nk

    @LuisCastillo-rt5nk

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always felt like Kreator and Sodom were one of the primary influences for death metal, especially on albums like Persecution Mania and Pleasure to Kill, you can’t listen to The Pestilence and tell me that’s not early death metal

  • @marioalexanderski9598

    @marioalexanderski9598

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LuisCastillo-rt5nk Sodom is more similar to black metal

  • @LuisCastillo-rt5nk

    @LuisCastillo-rt5nk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marioalexanderski9598 yeah, you’re actually right, i’d say their first albums were a heavy influence on black more than death

  • @eddiemontejo
    @eddiemontejo2 ай бұрын

    Great video man, I think you really did this justice and found a way to share a unique perspective on a subject that has been discussed to death. I think you nailed the legacy of thrash also - it was also my gateway into metal and deepened my appreciation and exploration of punk and hardcore. I'll never forget the first time I heard "Whiplash" by Metallica and freaking out becuase I've never heard anything that blended hardcore punk and metal before. Love your channel - keep up the awesome work!

  • @berhett1312
    @berhett13122 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE the clip of the girl talking about Metallica's font. Entirely speaking of it from a brand context due to literally not knowing about the band.

  • @art8592

    @art8592

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, that was hilarious 🤣.

  • @rileyhughes5613

    @rileyhughes5613

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only is it hilarious, but her genuine love for the "Metallic Brand" is a genuinly powerful statement on the invaluability of a marketable logo. She loves them *as a brand*, without hearing a single song; thats godteir marketing.

  • @robwalsh9843

    @robwalsh9843

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is laughable, but if it points her in the direction of actually listening to and enjoying Metallica, no harm done.

  • @whosaidthat84

    @whosaidthat84

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be honest I think that video is staged. Just seems too phony.

  • @chancemayne
    @chancemayne2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I got into a LOT of these bands when I was in high school (I’m 30). Managed to convince my German teacher to play a live album/DVD from Kreator when they played a show in East Berlin in 1990 for extra credit. Fantastic overview, Finn!

  • @tyburham5430
    @tyburham54302 жыл бұрын

    Thrash!! Grew up in Seattle, Forced Entry was the best! As well as the Accused, Coven, and Sanctuary. Gotta mention Overkill, a top 10 for sure.

  • @samb6841
    @samb68412 жыл бұрын

    Sick! Thanks for doing this. Now can we get a video on Doom 90s launch through to the 2010s boom

  • @crazydud3380
    @crazydud33802 жыл бұрын

    Seasons in the Abyss is a good choice from the Big 4. Honestly, it is hard to pick between Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, Rust in Peace, or Among the Living.

  • @mauvemolly8987

    @mauvemolly8987

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought anthrax were probably the most thrash out the big 4, they had just the right mix of hard-core and metal on among the living

  • @brianroberts6670
    @brianroberts66702 жыл бұрын

    Ron Jarzombeck is my favorite musician. So glad to hear you share the appreciation for him!

  • @greensticklife4046
    @greensticklife40462 жыл бұрын

    Looking back, the thrash revival is sorta the heavy counterpart to the strokes/white stripes wave, where rock started running out of creative juice and bands started more explicitly dealing in familiarity rather than novelty

  • @InGrindWeCrust2010
    @InGrindWeCrust20105 ай бұрын

    Great video. At some point, it would cool to do a deep dive into all the punk and metal cross-pollinations in the early '80s. I remember "thrash" being used the same as "hardcore" in the '80s, *maybe* with a connotation of faster hardcore bands, which is where the term "thrash metal" came from. I think death metal in the US fizzled out around the same time that thrash metal did, because of a billion clone bands, heavy music going elsewhere in the mainstream, etc. We already had a lot of newer thrash metal bands in the late '90s in Europe...including American ones that few people in the US cared about at the time.

  • @samod7550
    @samod75502 жыл бұрын

    Its so hard to put Primus in anywhere. They're at the tri-point of funk metal, alt metal and carnival music.

  • @TallicaMan1986

    @TallicaMan1986

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's something totally deranged about it as well. My Name is Mud makes me actually feel like I'm listening to music for murderers. Not saying that's a negative because it's an absolute positive on why I like it. It's really really weird.

  • @Casketkrusher_

    @Casketkrusher_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Les Claypool also said when he auditioned for Metallica, he didn't even liked Thrash, pretty funny. Primus has a total unique sound, I mean I can't even find a band that even tries to make the same sound like they do.

  • @carlmarks8170

    @carlmarks8170

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think of 'em more as a progressive alt rock band than a metal band Pork Soda is a great album, my favourite of theirs. It still sounds just as awesome today.

  • @marcthedashergd6321

    @marcthedashergd6321

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are also more unique bands like System of a Down where you can't really call them by am existing genre. All of you referred them as Nu Metal and I never see them as Nu Metal to be honest. I think they are Primus' levels of weirdness.

  • @raygordon4179
    @raygordon41792 жыл бұрын

    It's not dead,alive and well,and I play and listen everyday I'm 43.

  • @frankmorris6765
    @frankmorris67652 жыл бұрын

    Megadeth is amazing. Good bands evolve and that’s what happened to them. Their later albums in the 90’s got a lot of flak and caused Dave to fire Marty Friedman, but I love those albums. Train of Consequences is a killer song.

  • @robertherrick6703

    @robertherrick6703

    Жыл бұрын

    Marty Friedman wasn't fired. He quit.

  • @frankmorris6765

    @frankmorris6765

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertherrick6703 whaaaaaa

  • @robertherrick6703

    @robertherrick6703

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frankmorris6765 Shooorrrrrp!

  • @82394forrest
    @82394forrest2 жыл бұрын

    ST was the biggest for me. They kept me alive (for real) during the late 80’s. Mike is a very special writer and person.

  • @Scrinwaipwr
    @Scrinwaipwr2 жыл бұрын

    11:31 surprises me to this day; I always saw metal and punk as complimentary genres. They have a lot of musical overlap which is brilliantly demonstrated by hardcore and crossover bands, they can both make dark, heavy, aggressive music and poppier, more melodic and mass appealing music demonstrated by the likes of pop punk and hair metal. As Finn says, it's obvious now. It just amazes me that there was actually a time when people couldn't see it!

  • @ConvincingPeople

    @ConvincingPeople

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, the anarcho-punks understood, but Finn fears their power and body odour.

  • @sasquanchsmoove3685

    @sasquanchsmoove3685

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ConvincingPeople lmfaoooo this is amazing

  • @godwarrior3403

    @godwarrior3403

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree. I was blown away when I learned there used to be set tripping

  • @croulantroulant3082

    @croulantroulant3082

    2 жыл бұрын

    Music generally was much more tribal....It's no big deal now for rappers to work with people from the electro scene, but back then these genres did not mix either. also you could tell from somebody's clothes what they were into, which is much less true today.

  • @Scrinwaipwr

    @Scrinwaipwr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@croulantroulant3082 it was still the days of tribalism when I was growing up; but all the punks and the metalheads were in the same heavy rock tribe. There were factions like skater punks and black-metal goths but so many people had a foot in multiple factions (myself included) that it was all one loosely affiliated heavy rock tribe. We were united against common enemies such as chavs/townies and miserable old busy-bodies.

  • @jessem138
    @jessem1382 жыл бұрын

    Let's not forget: Tony of Municipal Waste also started the crossover band Iron Reagan.

  • @ext93

    @ext93

    2 жыл бұрын

    I went to a show that Iron Reagan opened for and after they played I saw Tony at the upstairs bar having a drink with a nice looking lady. It made me laugh because they were the only other people at the upstairs bar and not downstairs watching the show (there was also a bar down there). He was trying to get it in that night 😂

  • @emanuellroman
    @emanuellroman Жыл бұрын

    Sound of white noise is actually my fav Anthrax album, lol. Love the J.Bush era. Revisiting these older videos, great content as always.

  • @TonyPuccioMusic
    @TonyPuccioMusic2 жыл бұрын

    I was very happy and surprised to hear you mention EXCEL, and the ST record Controlled By Hatred. 🤘💯

  • @dennisrichards2604
    @dennisrichards26042 жыл бұрын

    I remember back in the late 80's it was considered "selling out" to produce a thrash metal video. Metallica claimed then they would never sell out make a video, till One was made. It was controversy at the time.

  • @phoenix21studios

    @phoenix21studios

    2 жыл бұрын

    money talks.

  • @redearthpaul178

    @redearthpaul178

    2 жыл бұрын

    They sold out on lightning when they included a ballad!

  • @phoenix21studios

    @phoenix21studios

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@redearthpaul178 is it possible that a band just grows and explore without being a sell out? I would hate for a band to make the same album 5 times in a row. I doubt Metallica would ever sell out considering their attitude, they did what they wanted to do every Album, no one else's choice.

  • @redearthpaul178

    @redearthpaul178

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenix21studios chill your boots, I'm only joking.

  • @phoenix21studios

    @phoenix21studios

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@redearthpaul178 XD

  • @wangonguy62
    @wangonguy622 жыл бұрын

    Thrash and specifically Metallica was my my gateway into heavy music and for that I'll always love it🤘

  • @insin5905
    @insin59052 жыл бұрын

    Great video and mentions.Watchtower, Dark Angel, lazy Rockit and Excel.I would add Voivod, Laaz Rockitt, Goatwhore, Blood Incantation, Wrathchild America.

  • @fernandodominguez9143
    @fernandodominguez9143 Жыл бұрын

    My personal favorite thrash albums for the 80’s Exodus- bonded by blood Metallica- MOP/ And Justice for all… Megadeth- rust in peace Slayer- South of Heaven

  • @vargsburzum
    @vargsburzum2 жыл бұрын

    Finn, Yes! You killed it. Ive been a thrash kid forever! Municipal Waste are legends, they for sure brought it back! Thanks for giving props to nuclear assault and Excel. Handle With Care id my favorite thrash album of all time!

  • @JAG214
    @JAG2142 жыл бұрын

    Sepultura are more known for their Groove Metal then their early Thrash Metal

  • @Jarekthegamingdragon
    @Jarekthegamingdragon3 ай бұрын

    My favorite album of the big 4 is easily rust in peace. It's been said to death but it's just easily the best thrash album of all time. Even with how much I like slayer just, nothing else is close. Overkill also definitely deserves a mention. They arguably are doing their best music ever, still, all these decades later.

  • @jackmcbride9939
    @jackmcbride99392 жыл бұрын

    Love all the times you mention forced entry. Most underrated band ever IMO.

  • @Magurkz
    @Magurkz2 жыл бұрын

    yooo finn. I wished you would do spotify playlist about these bands

  • @CastleChris92
    @CastleChris922 жыл бұрын

    The only time I ever had to walk away from a show for being too crazy was Municipal Waste back in 2013. They played a small stage venue with a little balcony about 15 feet up. People were jumping off the balcony into the pit and climbing the rafters. What a first time to see them live

  • @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026

    @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh for sure. I remember back in 2010 or 2011 seeing Municipal Waste in a very small bar venue that was upstairs from a main stage. It was MAYHEM. Exactly what I was hoping for, however, it was one of the first times I actually had to avoid being close to the stage for fear of being knocked the fuck out or crippled by dudes jumping off the balcony and amp cabinet stacks. It was such a small venue but the crowd diving/surfing was insane. They were spraying beer and whipping the crowd into a frenzy. I would've preferred that energy at a bigger venue. With such a small floor space, it got legitimately out of hand and I'm not one to back down from that kind of stuff.

  • @andyair6969

    @andyair6969

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was Ruthie's Inn every night!

  • @ThomasVanHoesenDeadpooliscool
    @ThomasVanHoesenDeadpooliscool2 жыл бұрын

    For Whose Advantage by Xentrix is one of the greatest thrash hidden gems I’ve ever heard.

  • @spiderman4x
    @spiderman4x2 жыл бұрын

    DRI was such an important band in my elementary school days. I was introduced to them by my older cousin and and his friends where we would ride bikes. I can still remember the horror on my teacher’s face when on my day to bring music to school I brought Dealing With It to play.

  • @hesherette
    @hesherette2 жыл бұрын

    one of my favorite videos of yours so far!! absolutely 100000% agree with your opinions on the German/ Brazilian (Sepultura) thrash bands being the top dogs of Trash compared to most of the US bands (which I still love ofc). most of the bands you mentioned are just as heavy in my rotation nowadays as they were when I found them in middle/ high school 15-20 years ago. Great take Finn, thanks for doing something different from the mainstream story. Appreciate your hard work!

  • @JackAllman
    @JackAllman2 жыл бұрын

    Finn, thanks for doing this one! Thrash was my favorite genre growing up. I grew up loving Maiden and Priest. An older neighbor of mine when I was in fifth or sixth grade, took me into his room to show me his guitar setup. He had the "Aces High" poster, and I mentioned liking Maiden. He then played Master of Puppets for me....holy shit! I, too, really liked the crossover bands, like ST, and DRI...don't know where Gang Green went wrong...lol. Anyways, I always dig your perspective, and this is the keystone era, for me, as far as heavy music goes. Can't thank you enough!

  • @henvlog3975
    @henvlog39752 жыл бұрын

    Wow, great an informative video. I can't believe that I have just came across you channel which has nothing but great in-depth information in the world of rock music. I am not going to be that guy who plugs a band name to get followers, but I would like to know your thoughts on the possibly of there being a space for a new upcoming young thrash band. My brother is the drummer in an up-and-coming band here in Orlando. They have had two separate videos viewed by both Glenn Fricker and the guys from the Space Zebra Show on Twitch and both had nothing but positive things to say about their music and their style being thrash metal. Is this a genre you think a new upcoming band can have success in at this current time?

  • @rodney2134
    @rodney2134 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Finn. Another great video. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @thebizzle413
    @thebizzle4132 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to Tiger Hanley for helping Finn look less like a 40 something year old hard core dude and more like a 20 something hyper pop enjoyer.

  • @hotrod9028

    @hotrod9028

    2 жыл бұрын

    Finn has visible grey hair lmao I don't know any 20 year old with grey hair he dated his wife when she was 17 and he was 35

  • @HXXIIA
    @HXXIIA2 жыл бұрын

    Cryptic slaughter deserves a bigger shout imo due to the extremely heavy simple mix on the PUNK side of crossover. Absolutely classic.

  • @migsterman67

    @migsterman67

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lowlife....absolute classic track off 'Convicted'

  • @philippczeskleba3988

    @philippczeskleba3988

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@migsterman67 Lowlife, Sudden Death and State Control are my favorites

  • @childrenoftheabzu

    @childrenoftheabzu

    2 жыл бұрын

    cryptic slaughter and septic death are 2 of my favs

  • @citybikesalex
    @citybikesalex10 ай бұрын

    Love the shoutout for Municipal Waste, haven't actually listened to more than an album or two by them (as I lost my active interest in thrash around that time, '91-92 or so) but Landphil is a bit of a musical crush of mine, right behind Nicke Andersson, Joe Strummer, and Tom G. Warrior. Well, maybe not right behind... But anyone who loves metal enough to have multiple bands of different metal sub-genres, and have most of them be near the leading edge of their sub-genre, is worthy of copious amounts of respect. Cannabis Corpse's first 3-4 releases are some of my favorite death metal of all time. Iron Reagan is good, Municipal Waste very good, and he's even recently partnered with someone in a black metal band whose name I can't remember, although I've only heard a couple of the songs a couple times so don't have an informed opinion yet.

  • @jason_108
    @jason_1082 жыл бұрын

    Shout out Angelus Apatrida! Dude's are crushing that old school vibe

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