I know I missed a few details on some of these, (monk combos work a bit differently than I said). There are so many jobs in this game, if I was gonna analyze every last thing we'd be here all day. I'll figure out all the details when I can actually play them. I'm pretty happy with the changes overall, but I also feel for anyone who thinks their favorite job is getting oversimplified. Many of these simplifications might be worse for the high end players but seem like improvements for the majority of the player base. I imagine there will still be fun things to optimize on any job. Hopefully the fights this expansion make up for it! If you want to see the actual tool tips for everything, you can find them here: www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1d9eiu1/dawntrail_media_tour_job_infographics/

I was so scared for dragoon but i can't lie...for me this seems absolutely perfect. Especially all the new animation updates, drg definitly fell a bit behind when it comes to 123(45) combo visuals but it probably had the coolest one now.

After 8 years I still don have a main. As a casual player I play every single job but not able to fall in love with one. Im not excited about the new jobs so I will keep rotating the old ones.

@unixtreme

22 күн бұрын

I use whatever I have to for raiding but keep rotating for all the other content. It keeps things fresh.

@mechaulfr9600

6 күн бұрын

14 is nice in that it doesnt punish you for not having a main. You can have a character who can change around. I want to have a main, but still cant pick one.

Great vid! Just recently found your content and it’s clicking for me. Hope to see some job guides from you in DT! (Planning VPR myself for DT)

Oh this is going to be a great listen!

RPR/DRG one hundred percent. Been a reaper main for a while now. I really love the class and enjoy how straightforward, yet satisfying it is. Love the theme, gameplay and aesthetic and with DT it’s gonna be largely the same, but with some new buttons and quality of life changes. Pretty hyped for my scythe man, although I’m also super excited for dragoon. Picked it up recently as my secondary job and fell in love with it very fast, and the rework did with the job everything that I have ever wanted. Same situation as with RPR; love the theme, aesthetic and gameplay and DT version of it is gonna be a blast for me. That being said, I’m kind of indecisive what to play aside from my maiming boys. Dunno if I’ll pick up other melees or pick up tanking as my secondary role to play after I’m done doing content with RPR/DRG. Other melees with the DT changes look super attractive and certain jobs that I wasn’t playing seem very inviting to try, but on the other hand I always liked to tank here and there and tanks do seem pretty fun as well, so I will have to see what time will tell.

Appreciated your input on all the job changes! I wanna get my hands on viper so badly but still gonna main MCH first for weekly gear while reclear all the past ultimates on viper during downtime 😊

thanks for putting in work for all this! loved the "hmm, we have a lot of healing & dmg mitigation. apparently we'll need it" foreshadowing throughout. YoshiP & team bringing in the heat

Ya gotta go with your baby Dragoon, at least to start. Even if you end up changing off it later, it'll be fun for someone who knows the job inside out to see the little tweaks etc

@brokenQuins

22 күн бұрын

Swear I saw you comment on some 14 vid likely years ago now. The content your channel revolves around is completely alien to me but still respect the work/dedication. You sound like a cool dude haha. Nice to see you still around these neck of the woods 💪

I’m having the same problems. I want to play so many different jobs and my main DRK kinda got shafted so I might play play NIN and VIPER along with maybe BRD and SCH

This is what KZread should be about: people sharing their views as they are. Keep up the great job, very nice watch overall that makes people looking forward to the changes.

Looking forward to relearning DRG for sure

Hey Vit. I know this is gonna change soon but do you use The Balance for all your dragoon rotations/openers?

@99_Vit

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, the standard opener in there is good. I change it around a little for certain fights but that’s pretty rare. There are some fight specific optimizations here and there but you’ll be set if you just do that to start

I am playing Reaper and Machinist and I will continue and do the MSQ with my Reaper. And I Changed my Catboy to a Male Roe yesterday. Trying the male Roe race right now and I love it so far. I am using the Noir Set as glam. He looks like a Mafia 2 character. But maybe I will switch the race till I decide which race suits for me the best :D. I played so far Bunboy, Catboy and Male Roe. Maybe I will try Male Lala too.

I legit played Dragoon from a tales boost last night for the first time ever (everything else just got boring). I like the busy weaving! It's definitely not boring.

That's not how the new Monk works. Your forms function the same moving from one to the next as you use a button in each form. Dragonkick, Twin Snakes and Demolish charge up 1, 2, and 3 orbs respectively shown in the new gauge which add potency to what used to be Bootshine, True Strike and Snap Punch (now Leaping Opo, Rising Raptor, and Pouncing Couerl) so essentially you'll press 123 - 456 - 156 - 426 etc. It's just charge gauge, spend gauge again. That's assuming they fix the potency issue on opos since the media tour build makes it pointless every pressing dragonkick.

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

Gotcha. Yeah, I didnt look into it too closely and it's probably one of my least familiar jobs. Plenty of time to figure out how it works later lol

I started during EW with WAR and so far nothing clicked like it, but I've leveled GDB recently to have a way to flex in PF. None of the changes for those two are getting me super excited, but for me it's the fights and working as a group that are are fun, so I'm glad I'll be able to focus on that and not have to re-learn a lot of stuff!

@allday6772

23 күн бұрын

Getting into a party with a chill fun group is why I play

If it makes you feel any better, viper also doesnt have any personal mit

Current Reaper going into 2m as I understand it: (Enshroud) at 8s left to AC, Death, Cross, Void, Death (Arcane Circle, Lemure), Cross, Void (Lemure), Communio, Harvest, repeat full Enshroud. DT Reaper as I understand it: (Enshroud) at 10-12s left, Death, Cross, Void (Lemure), Cross, Void (Lemure), Death (AC, new thingy (was ogcd, right?)) Communio, Communio follow-up, Harvest (Enshroud, new thingy), repeat full Enshroud ...But that's just a theory. A GAAAAAME THEORY!

28:23 Sharpcast is removed

Red mage is looking really good. Tank wise I'm good with what I see, I just wish they had stripped the gap closer potency from War and Paladin as well.

A lot of classes arent getting a lot this expansion, just some QOL stuff and some fun new animations. Mind I was late to Endwalker so everything was new and exciting to me while now... Im not disappointed I'm just not as bright eyed. Its fine, nothing is bad, it just feels more like minor upgrades. My classes are looking like- DRG/VPR, RDM, GBR/DRK, and Astrologian. DRG was my starter and still love it, but with DPS bloat in ques.... if Im going to spend the 20 minutes or more waiting for roulettes or story I think Id rather be doing something brand new. Viper looks like a job I will love. Its very improvisational feeling with a lot of fun cool flashy attacks. I'm planning on spending most of Friday on this class. Red Mage is... solid. Its a fun class thats very flexible. Loved it in Endwealker and its not changing much at all so no competition here in the ranged DPS category. (I dont have a phys DPS really, but maybe the Bard will see some more play from me down the line.) GBR is my go to tank. Im good with it, its fun, it looks snappy. Nuff said. Dark Knight is a tank job I want to main and Im hoping that the changes will make it more tenable. But as it is, its the tank i struggle most with. When the party is half deccent, its not a problem; but it needs so much more support from the healer that if the healer goes down I typically follow. Astro: I dont heal much, in fact its the only job that I have in this list thats not 90. But it is gorgeous and I am hoping to fix that this expac.

Gotta say I am happy about bard and scholar which will probably be my mains for Phys ranged and healer but I am still not sure on what to pick for melee, caster and tank, might go BLM for caster but I am not sure and for tank Idk might switch from war to pld and well idk what I should pick for melee really I played monk in ew but I am not sure if I am gonna stick with that, also great video as always

Being able to force aoe heals on Indom more often is great.

Hey Vit, I play a little bit of every job. On double enshroud, if it's under the same 1.5 second gcd you can opt to end 1st enshroud early, losing on a reaving and lemure slice to ensure you can get the 2 Communio and the new perfecto. I am unsure if dropping 540+240 so 780 potency to gain maybe 220 potency. No idea on what perfecto is I think 1k but can change

@xxomega702buzzalini8

23 күн бұрын

That or we can pop enshroud early and shuffle the use of arcane crest to just before Communio 1 clip plentiful harvest to 2nd enshroud but ensure you get all big hits in 20s

@ridleyroid9060

23 күн бұрын

That being said I do agree with vit that it is clunky af. Even if arcane circle is 25s, fitting all these buttons in that window is gonna be tight. Whether that is a good thing or not really is in the eye of the beholder, I personally think it is something that's actually fun about reaper, but I think the philosophy of "tack on buttons to other buttons" for new expac skills. is just tired and unsustainable. Watch 8.0 have plentiful harvest 2 and communio 3 as well as harvest moon 2. I snooze.

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

I'm sure there will be some sort of work around, and I definitely get the appeal of it. I just need more time on reaper to get used to it better. It'll be interesting to see rotations once we get all the finalized potencies

I'm a bit sad about the life eyes going away but happy with just about everything else. Personally, I think just having an out of combat ability that gives you 1 eye is all that was needed but it is what it is. Everything looks nice and flashy. The coolest looking job animations just got cooler. BTW Viper doesn't have a personal mit either so DRG can have a friend in this department.

Im interested in the new ast. Im hoping they will increase their person dps a bit more instead it always being tied to boosting the groups.

Gotta say I’ve finally settled on dragoon as my main but viper looks fun

Fellow gunbreaker lover ahhhhhhhh let’s go!!!!!

I'm going to miss the buff/dot management on mnk. Kept me engaged. But that's what kept most players from it. Also I feel like they made it more flashy, compare to the other melee jobs it's not. I'm a fan of the riddle buffs. Hopefully the standard weaponskill aoe rotation gets buff animations or triggers beast chakras

My plan is to level 1 of each role dependent on personal preference with aesthetics and how engaging they are to play in multiple types of content. So my choices so far with what we know, i'm gonna max GNB first for msq and quick queue times in new content, then NIN or VPR for melee, it's gonna be dependent on how well VPR plays in Crystalline Conflict. I love the aesthetic and speed of VPR but NIN is such a powerful all arounder for all content, so melee is going to be a tough choice between the 2. Then, Magical Ranged will be BLM because it's the only job I think feels both "slow" but difficult to master which I take pride in. An added bonus is they're monsters in PvP as well. As for healer and Phys Ranged...I don't play those roles and never plan to, unless there is a huge combat system rework that changes the fundamentals of how they're expected to be played. Of course this is all personal preference, but i'm so excited for Dawntrail nonetheless!

I can't wait for the dragoon changes, they look incredible. I'm really looking forward to the Astro changes as well. The only job that slightly disappoints me in the expansion is probably Dark Knight, I think the other tanks should be on par with Dark Knight so they aren't outclassed. The fact that Warrior has so much self sustain that you don't need a healer is a little stupid in my opinion. I'm really hoping they address it at some point.

BLM looks insane. I was never a fan of leylines because I always placed it and had to move. Very frustrating, but the new gauge looks insane with the bomb at the end. I just wondering if it's a new button or maybe a despair/flare proc that happens after you use that ability. The manafont upgrade is also insane because it keeps you in fire phase with a new timer and full gauge. 3rd polygot is nice, I've always wanted that, not very often do I overcap them between pulls in a dungeon but it allows you a little flexibility. In AOE situations I have no issues with weaving a foul in between flares or AOE fire but single target with the timer I usually hold on to xenos to after I despair so the potential of having 3 or 4 even 5 in a short time is insane.

I say do DRK or any tank first, there's gonna be tons of viper and pictomancers running around. And dps queues might be bad if your going solo

I will enjoy BRD while I can If the job out-perform DNC in anyway it will definitely get potency nerf every patch so DNC can shine

I'm happy ninja is pretty much the same since I enjoy it. I was initially hopeful about the AST rework. I don't mind giving up rng for different card effects. But I'm underwhelmed by the card variation. It already feels like AST has so much healing, so the healing cards feel pointless.

@nozelxo6514

23 күн бұрын

Honestly every Healer has too many healing skills, they should give more DPS skills

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

I’ll wait to see what the new fights look like to decide if the extra healing feels unnecessary or not haha

Getting rid of mirage dive to open eyes is exactly what i wanted. It was clunky. Though, we couldve got more imo to make use of our gauge at least. Getting rid of clunky mechanics is not oversimplifying, its cleaning up a bad mechanic for job. (summoner was killed and oversimplifying xD)

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

Agreed. Jumps will work identically to before, you just won’t be punished if you don’t get that mirage dive off. Geirskogul/life is less flexible now but I’m okay with that personally

The monk rotation will pretty much be the same as in endwalker but instead of timers you manage the gauge but each form gets different amount of charges so it's not just a simple 135 246 rotation

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

I see, I just missed the charges, but that makes sense. Still sounds good to me though

@ek9750

23 күн бұрын

@@99_Vit yea I am a big fan of this new gauge too, just wanted to clarify

I see all the people hyped with viper and here I am HAPPY that I dont like it (at first glance) cause i like 90% of the current jobs already and cant decide what to play ^^

I was DRG main then GNB came out never looked back you like DRG then you will love GNB

I WANT OLD SUMMONER

This is a fun problem to have haha

Why not play them all? :D

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

That’s the plan eventually!

Dark knight just looks like a step back. It lost more than it gained, and the gameplay will just be inferior.

Riddle of earth isnt a hot. Youre thinking of warriors new one. Riddle of earth is just a heal

Bruh, removing all difficulty from DRG is anything but fun. It was always entertaining to find some room for optimization here and there. Sad to see my main for past six years get such treatment, but oh well, guess people who love interesting job mechanics aren't allowed to have fun anymore.

@pod155

23 күн бұрын

Come on man everything needs to be the same. Every class needs to play the same...what you like to optimize and had fun with it? Nah we need to turn the class into a three button auto win class. Isn't that fun?

@pryanik1337

23 күн бұрын

@@pod155 lol, yeah, having to press the exact same buttons in the very same order in every single fight for eight minutes straight is sooo much fun, can't wait for DT release for jobs to play themselves.

@ridleyroid9060

23 күн бұрын

@@pod155 True, why waste your brain eneregy on engaging with the video game when shiny button go wow boom brrrr

@andylawlzz

23 күн бұрын

everyone in this reply chain is agreeing with you, like you didnt just not press mirage dive 2 before the 2nd geirskogul and then not think about anything the entire rest of the encounter

@pryanik1337

23 күн бұрын

@@andylawlzz well, because it isn't the case in a lot of fights. Sometimes you don't want to delay first LotD window, sometimes you do it without buffs, and sometimes optimization can give the whole new window of LotD. There is a lot of fights where you can do either of those. And none will be possible with strict 1min cd. A huge downgrade to job's design.

Ain't gonna lie chief, been playin' a while and am used to being dissapointed by job changes but this is the most nothing burger media tour I've ever seen. Every job is "you get some shiny button btw it's easier now", besides BLM, which just got slaughtered. I am really really really not a fan of this combat design. I realize I may be in the minority but having another 2.5 years of essentially more endwalker will be just painful in day to day content and even up to savage (unless they somehow make such good raids that it doesn't matter which I don't think they will). That said Pictomancer does look cool at least, and SGE having a damage gain from maintaing 2 dots are my only 2 copes for this expac. EDIT: to your point about business on DRG - why in your eyes does being busy = good if the business is just smash all of the buttons every 1 - 2 mins? What is engaging about just facerolling your buttons with 0 thought behind it and no engagement with what is actually happening with your job? Why is eyes being gone a good thing? Business can be good or bad, I think just having a job that requires a lot of double weaving in the burst window isn't necessarily a sign of whether or not that job is or isn't fun. Not saying current dragoon is perfect, but instead of trying to do something to make it more engaging, they just made it a "smash buttons on CD" job. What is fun or engaging about that?

@hayalmatnu9919

23 күн бұрын

I think a lot of us vets need a new mmo lol That being said, I do think the new field exploration content might save the game for me!

@ridleyroid9060

23 күн бұрын

@@hayalmatnu9919 I'll be real, I don't really care for "having an mmo", I only play FF because, well, it is a final fantasy game, and I love final fantasy games. I don't think I'll ever unsub just because of that, but they are truly pushing me at this point. I am still excited to see what ultimates DT will have and I want to prog them, but outside of that, it's safe to say this is no longer a game I enjoy nearly as much as I used to back in stormblood and to some extent shadowbringers.

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

To me "busy = good" because I like pressing a lot of buttons. I personally like when this game feels more like playing a rhythm game than a tactical strategy game. I get that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's what I like. Ideally there's a good mix of both across all of the jobs so people can play what they prefer. I agree it's a shame they're streamlining it as much as they are for people who want to use their brain more

Tell me you know nothing 'bout blm without telling me.

monk . . . why did they murder my monk like that :(. . . if it goes like that then monk just becomes a lvl 60 generic dps. The ability to freely weave in and out depending on the situation. and enter your rotation from any point out of PB. gave so much freedom to deal with whatever a fight sends your way. making it like the others where you 1 2 3 > 4 5 6. . with no fluidity. just . . . yikes

@99_Vit

23 күн бұрын

I was wrong about monk in the video. You actually get different stacks for each form. The rotation will end up working very similarly to how it does now, just no buff or dot now

@cyborgtemplar1989

23 күн бұрын

@@99_Vit we'll see. when something changes that heavily it doesn't always end up the way devs expect it to. (warning, much longer than i anticipated) as it stands, monks baseline non min/max rotation is very fluid and mostly intuitive. The only unintuitive part for a looping rotation is exiting your 2nd PB in burst window with a twin snakes to force the loop. and it's overall dps under the perfect rotation is . . not even noticeable. It's main benefit is that fluidity gives it a lot of freedom to interact and adapt to any boss fight mechanics. Where other more rigid classes can run into issues. Making it a stacking of resources type job leaves it open to issues and cursed scenarios regarding boss downtimes to me. Where boss downtimes don't really hurt it right now, since outside burst you have a 40s window to use your 2nd PB in, and can form shift + chakra charge (and yes anatman in rare cases). to exit that downtime phase in a better position than most other jobs. As you can begin your rotation from anywhere within it's range as the scenario demands. setting it up to build charges and resources may very easily compromise that. We'll see though. ranged phys may still be what i go with, as I almost always start bard. And despite you thinking ranged phys is the easiest role, bard has probably one of the most complex and difficult rotations to min/max and get higher parses on. I've played most of the melee as well. One thing I'd have liked to see them do (they didn't) was add an extra charge to Empyreal arrow. Giving you more freedom in how you use it within songs to not end up over capping on stuff like pitch perfect charges. the freedom of using songs is nice, and it looks like we'll be back to my favored Wanders minuet > mages ballad > Army's Paeon(shorter AP) cycle. as the upgraded bloodletters will likely skew the numerical values back into mages favor. On the point of Machinist . . well. that one will be interesting. MCH has a very full burst window already, and adding 2 more global within that could become annoying. Since drill at 2 charges will then mean you want to fit 2 drills, air anchor, chainsaw, chainsaw followup, and full hypercharge into a short burst window, which is about 8 gcd's of length, and any drift on drill could easily become punished. it may also allow double hypercharge burst windows a bit more freely than they are now. it's doable but it's tight with the drill timer coming off cd the very gcd you finish it. (drill > air anchor > chainsaw > hypercharge > 5x heatblast > hypercharge > 5 heat blasts.) which finishes the 2nd hypercharge right as drill is coming off cd. It'll come down to potencys. one hypercharge window is equal to 3 standard globals, and burst windows can generaly hold 8. right now that's air anchor, chain saw, and 2x hypercharge windows.

Since i have the number one most important opinion on the internet, i have decided that you will play pictomancer. You're welcome.