What is the real difference between various types of yeast? Which one is best?

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The age-old question - which type of yeast should I use? The short answer is that you should use the yeast that is available to you at the time, because there is not much difference between all the different kinds of yeast out there - especially for the home baker.
There are hundreds of yeast species in nature, but only one is used for commercial yeast production - saccharomyces cerevisiae. This strain is extremely good at gas production and it helps your bread puff up.
Commercial yeast comes in different forms from liquid, which is mostly used in large bakeries, cake yeast which we commonly call fresh yeast, and dry yeast.
So, what is the difference between the types of yeast that we find in our shops?
There are three main kinds, to narrow it down - fresh yeast, instant dry yeast, and active dry yeast.
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  • @ChainBaker
    @ChainBaker2 жыл бұрын

    I meant to say MICROORGANISM not BACTERIA. Apologies.

  • @shanginn

    @shanginn

    2 жыл бұрын

    they are fungi :)

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which are microorganisms, yes :)

  • @shanginn

    @shanginn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker true, true

  • @redknight3439

    @redknight3439

    7 ай бұрын

    @3:18 "using fresh yeast only makes sense if your baking all the time" No, heres why: you can make fresh yeast from the store bought fresh or dry yeast - 5g yeast (fresh or Dry) 30g water 60 g flour, combine store for 48 hours then freeze if ur not going to use it within 7 days Portion it after an airtight wrap, freeze it and now u have an endless supply of fresh yeast

  • @lilblackduc7312

    @lilblackduc7312

    5 ай бұрын

    As soon as I heard you say "bacteria", I knew you were going to catch hell in the 'comments'. Lol

  • @finasol1019
    @finasol10195 ай бұрын

    This video is so validating. There’s only one brand of yeast at my grocery store that everyone craps on as being “bad yeast.” I’ve never had an issue with it. I’m glad I didn’t go and buy more expensive yeast online!

  • @pottersjournal
    @pottersjournal3 жыл бұрын

    This really gives rise to some thought and really clears a few thoughts up.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    All I want is for people to not get too hung up on what ingredients to use. Just get in the kitchen and bake is what I say 😄

  • @Diseaseisreversible

    @Diseaseisreversible

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there🤣

  • @robertdewalt8711
    @robertdewalt87112 жыл бұрын

    Very true what you said about following recipes. My first test run making Panettone, tasted good but was too dry. I followed exactly bulk Fermentation, final proofing and baking time. My second test run I ended up doing bulk Fermentation about 1 hour longer than 2 hours in recipe, similarly the final fermentation was 1 hour 20 minutes longer than what was specified in recipe. I checked internal temperature earlier and once crust had desired colour and inside had desired temperature, after cooling checked crumb and texture and result was perfect, Panettone was moist and crumb structure looked very proper.

  • @mandiigraham1596
    @mandiigraham15962 жыл бұрын

    Excellent demo and it backs up what I thought. Most times I have found the time frame for any given recipe can vary. I always use the time as a guide only. Once I have found the time that works for me consistently I make a note of it in the written description of the recipe. In winter I use the new time as a checking point and add time as necessary.

  • @melissaqueliz
    @melissaqueliz3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video. I love how thorough you are, and also your editing skills are great!!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! 😊 I'm sure I missed some details, but that's for another video 😄

  • @QueenGomez1111
    @QueenGomez111111 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video. I have asked so many people and no one really gave a firm answer. But seeing the results are much better.🥰

  • @JustFun-vc2ri
    @JustFun-vc2riАй бұрын

    This video cleared up so many of my questions. As usual, thank you for sharing kind sir!

  • @Xelbiuj
    @Xelbiuj3 жыл бұрын

    You have so many great videos, I can't believe you're only at 3.12k subs. Keep up the great work, you'll blow up soon!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah you legend! Thanks for the encouragement 🤩

  • @WatchMyAnus1
    @WatchMyAnus12 жыл бұрын

    I usually use fresh yeast. When i used dry yeast instead i also recognized it rising slower. That got me in trouble at times, because i tend to bake "last minute" for family and friends 😅

  • @ellajackson7089
    @ellajackson70892 ай бұрын

    This was really helpful actually thank you 😊

  • @familybjornestrand4548
    @familybjornestrand45482 жыл бұрын

    These experiments are brilliant! You really learn a lot. Thank you.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :)

  • @oivinf
    @oivinf2 жыл бұрын

    Very good video. There are actually multiple strains of yeast used in baking. As an example, in Norway there is normal yeast and yeast for sweet dough which is bred to eat sugars quicker, essentially letting you ferment sweeter dough faster. Then there is pizza yeast which is bred to make the dough stretchy without tearing

  • @angryasianjim
    @angryasianjim Жыл бұрын

    I’ll admit it. I’ve blamed the recipe/oven for overdone bread. I’ve done this having access to both an oven thermometer and an instant read. Just like in stove top cooking time/temps may vary. When first starting out I was under the impression that baking was a science (it really is though) which included exact times. Little did I realize that little variables (room/dough temp, yeast activity/age, and a few other things) can vastly affect the outcome. Thanks again for the very informative video! I love baking and finding your channel has taught me a lot 😊

  • @maiadamoaz8779
    @maiadamoaz87792 ай бұрын

    That's true the way of handling the ingredients create difference, literally my favourite KZread channel , I like that u prove everything with experiments and easy way 😊

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 ай бұрын

    ✌️😎

  • @thunderbeatz514
    @thunderbeatz514 Жыл бұрын

    This makes sense. I used to think that fresh yeast improved all breads because bakers always use fresh yeast. Well the main reason being that fresh yeast rises much faster, when working in a bakery it just saves them time. With dry yeast I used to put my breads in the oven way to fast. Used fresh yeast multiple times from a local bakery, it rises quicker but isn't necessarily rising better. Nowadays I just wait with the fermenting til it is 2x his size when I use dry yeast, I don't use my watch and wait for exactly 20 minutes, it just isn't done during that time. Dry yeast is perfect, just be more patient. :)

  • @crabmansteve6844
    @crabmansteve68442 жыл бұрын

    I've learned that the only time the yeast really matters is in brewing. Beer, wine, mead or distillers beer used in making spirit. The strain of yeast will actively change the flavor of whatever your end product is. But all bakers yeast is generally the same exact strain of yeast.

  • @Ass_of_Amalek

    @Ass_of_Amalek

    2 жыл бұрын

    different yeast strains also manage to produce different alcohol content. I think the main difference bwtween baker's and brewer's yeast is supposed to be that brewer's yeast tolerates much more alcohol before it dies, somewhere around the alcohol levels that we have in wine.

  • @MichielDijk93

    @MichielDijk93

    Жыл бұрын

    As a brewer, I can confirm this. But strictly speaking, an ale yeast is the same kind of yeast as bread yeast. It's only because of evolution that there are differences in flavors produced, alcohol tolerance, attenuation, preferred temperature range and speed of fermentation. Now I wouldn't advise to use beer yeast for bread making though. It probably will be a lot slower and it's a lot more expensive.

  • @max6405y
    @max6405y2 жыл бұрын

    For me it was the biggest mystery in break making. Thank you for finally solving it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @yellowperil6307
    @yellowperil63073 жыл бұрын

    I feel less panicky now when I use different yeast. I go by the theory that if it has not risen enough leave it... thank you for making the experiment!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly how it should be. A recipe is only a list of ingredients, the rest is in our own hands 😄

  • @misdrevenous
    @misdrevenous Жыл бұрын

    I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you so much

  • @placeholder19
    @placeholder192 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video! Applicable to most any area of life, not just baking. Take responsibility. Do things right, and properly, not just "how the recipe says". Extrapolate out, and there is a lot of wisdom here.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! :) I recently published another video about yeast btw - kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoF5vKlymqqsp6g.html

  • @mareksimurda5101
    @mareksimurda51019 ай бұрын

    Nice. You are right, that you use what is available or what suits you. It is hard to get dry yeast in my country, so we use live yeast while baking at home and it works great. Also we always rise it first in warm milk with small amount of sugar and it works everytime like a charm. Never really understood the dry yeast thing, because it's not a thing here. At least it wasn't for some time, but now one can actually buy it here. Great video.

  • @manny9639
    @manny96392 жыл бұрын

    TEDx motivational baking speech...I just love ChainBaker videos ❤

  • @beverleyellis1869
    @beverleyellis18692 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your tutorial! A friend gifted me 454 g of instant yeast. I have only ever used active dry yeast, so being 78 years old I have been feeling a little nervous to try it. Your video has given me renewed confidence, especially when you say "yeast is yeast". Many thanks again for your help!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! :)

  • @marjamerryflower

    @marjamerryflower

    2 жыл бұрын

    So what did you use the yeast for? Did your baking go well? Did you enjoy working with it?

  • @Ass_of_Amalek

    @Ass_of_Amalek

    2 жыл бұрын

    weird gift but ok

  • @eqwerewrqwerqre

    @eqwerewrqwerqre

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope your Bread journey is going well with your new yeast!

  • @tarnthamuaapithorn9161

    @tarnthamuaapithorn9161

    12 күн бұрын

    K

  • @sarganis2576
    @sarganis25763 жыл бұрын

    That was really useful. Thanks alot!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏

  • @xgamingpoorly92
    @xgamingpoorly922 жыл бұрын

    man!!! SO GOOD! These videos are a master class. Thank you

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them! :)

  • @musingfoodie1041
    @musingfoodie1041 Жыл бұрын

    Very useful information, many thanks!

  • @prrrarsr
    @prrrarsr Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful teaching loved it thank you.

  • @jobaloney1334
    @jobaloney13342 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thank you!

  • @nathanhall9172
    @nathanhall91722 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for teaching.

  • @nir766
    @nir766 Жыл бұрын

    You make very valued videos.

  • @RainbowTurd
    @RainbowTurd3 жыл бұрын

    0:57 Yeast is a fungus, not bacteria. Great video though :)

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    You know what I meant 😂 Thanks! 🙏

  • @RainbowTurd

    @RainbowTurd

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ChainBaker I thought that you know the difference tbh, other viewers may be confused though :D

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Easy mistake to make for a non native speaker 😄 I always thought of it as a microorganism which would include bacteria, yeast and others. Regardless, it's the thing that make the bread rise and the name does not change the fact 😉

  • @definitelyeu1689
    @definitelyeu16893 жыл бұрын

    I love all your videos, very informative to homebakers. "The yeast does not make the bread, you make the bread."

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! 😊🙏

  • @muskepticsometimes9133
    @muskepticsometimes91332 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I agree with amateur baker so much variation from other causes easy to see difference in yeast that is not real !! would say 1 always use same kind and brand of yeast. I have enough variation from other factors. Pick most available yeast from store and stick with it 2. Always dissolve yeast in water (your advice) 3. One violation of #1 is sourdough. This is different animal, slower and more variable and requires more attention. That said has different flavor. I would think be good to start with standard yeast before sourdough for start of baking hobby

  • @merianiang6871
    @merianiang68712 жыл бұрын

    I like your channel. All video very informative. I am interesting in baking because i allergic to egg and dairy products, thus a bit difficult to get suitable bread in my country. When available, the suitable bread will be very pricey. So i decided to bake by myself. As a beginner i found that your information very useful. Thanks a lot for your effort sharing those useful information.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I could help :)

  • @39zack
    @39zack2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how common this is in other places, but here in Norway we have 3kinds of yeast: Normal, one for dough's that contain more than 5% sugar and one for pizza dough. According to the manufacture, they are 3 different strands of yeast (the two first ones come as both fresh and dry, the pizza one is only dry)

  • @mariaborgvall7350

    @mariaborgvall7350

    2 жыл бұрын

    In Sweden we have one for sweet doughs as well (maybe the same brand?). I've always wondered what the difference is

  • @ThePapaja1996

    @ThePapaja1996

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mariaborgvall7350 Tydligen samma svamp men en annan stam som är bättre anpassad till söta degar.

  • @mikey19608
    @mikey196083 жыл бұрын

    As usual, another great video. I was told ADY is better for long fermentation than IDY, true or not it does not matter to me, I stick with ADY cause I've learned to control the temperature and the time.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mike! :) Yeah that may as well be right and I think someone told me this too after I posted this video, but as you say it can be controlled with temperature so it's all the same at the end.

  • @robertszchanski4220
    @robertszchanski42202 жыл бұрын

    Thank you "Professor. ". & Put philosophy. In. Bread baking. It's. SUPER. 👍. Thanks again. For importen. Information. ✌️😉

  • @charlielin4596
    @charlielin45962 жыл бұрын

    Really love your videos! Your videos have made me find an interest in bread baking 😃 I have a friend who bakes a ton of bread daily and he told me that he uses fresh yeast over instant dry yeast because it produces a more fragrant end product. Is that true? Or is the difference negligible? Is there also a difference in price? Could it be also for cost purposes that he chooses to use fresh yeast?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I personally don't taste or smell the difference. The only reason why it may be more fragrant is that you need more fresh yeast in a recipe than dry yeast. At least that is my theory :D Fresh yeast is great for sweet breads and to use in cooler dough as it holds up better against sugar and low temperatures than dry yeast would. Price wise I think dry is far cheaper.

  • @americanrebel413
    @americanrebel4132 жыл бұрын

    This is great to know, thank you.

  • @iiinicky6224
    @iiinicky62243 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I've made some mistakes that you mentioned here. I'll keep your video in mind when I'm making my next dough :D Thanks

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you found it useful 😊

  • @funquizzie3795
    @funquizzie3795 Жыл бұрын

    Take responsibility, and you will succeed. Best advice! Keep up the good work!

  • @jeaninecarroccio1362
    @jeaninecarroccio13622 жыл бұрын

    Oh I am so glad I found you! I am American and just moved to Italy. I use to make bread or rolls almost every day. One of my favorite breads is the No Knead which only uses 1/4 teaspoon of yeast, I was using King Arthurs Instant yeast. Is that what I would still use if instant (1.23g)? Active a little more? And for fresh when you say 1g instant to 3g fresh are you saying 3g of cube or 3 g including the water. I found Lievito Fresco the fresh cube, (Lievito madre with brewers yeast-what is that?) and Lievito madre with natural and dry! The Cube Packages say use cube for 500g per cup of flour, but the recipe only use 1/4 teaspoon. Thank you so much!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    It should be pretty much the same as the instant yeast I always use. Active always a little more, yes. Of the cube because it already contains plenty of water. I have never used brewer's yeast. Apparently it creates alcohol as well as CO2. While baker's yeast is meant to produce more CO2. A cube is normally 20g I think so 20g per 500g flour sounds about right.

  • @guywren4801
    @guywren4801 Жыл бұрын

    Great info. The recipes that were designed by a baker that uses fresh yeast but casually suggests a sachet of instant yeast may be used might be overestimating what those 7g sachets are actually capable of and that in turn can lead to disappointment especially with enriched doughs.

  • @lynnc6155
    @lynnc6155 Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video explaining if is possible / concepts of baking keto / gluten free bread?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Not yet. I don't have any experience in that side of baking so far

  • @katsgood1189
    @katsgood1189 Жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @MTMabowels
    @MTMabowels Жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Thank you. Am I doing the right thing storing an opened can of dried yeast (Allinson’s ‘Easy Bake’ 100g tin), with its plastic cap on, in the refrigerator? I’m using the yeast about once a month.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    No need to refrigerate it. I've used dry yeast that's 2 years out of date and it still worked.

  • @nickshadow2622
    @nickshadow2622 Жыл бұрын

    I have a situation that some of your bakers must deal with, but most don't. I moved from about 500 ft elevation, in a fairly humid environment, to a semi desert with altitude of 7200 ft. Oven spring went in the crapper, some unscientific casual research has let me to conclude that need higher hydration and a bit less yeast. I am not a great baker, but I can tell when dough is just too dry, and snaps back like a rubber band (forming a pizza was a nightmare). I am getting more aggressive with hydration and getting better results. Anything you might offer as suggestion and/or advice would be most helpful. Watching your videos has been most helpful in dealing with the 20,000 ways things can go south. Thanks Nick

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Quite a lot of people have asked me about baking at various altitudes. I have not had any experience with this as of yet. But I would definitely love to try it out. Unfortunately, there are no mountains here in the UK 😅

  • @nickshadow2622

    @nickshadow2622

    Жыл бұрын

    A couple of things. First, yes I have a stand mixer, yours is exactly like mine even color, I say mine cause mind is about 15 years old. I use it, a lot. However I do some hand kneading and folding. Second, I suggest packing your equipment (sans mixer) in a backpack and find a high mountain village in the Alps, French or Italian, you pick. Stay month or so, perhaps a small job in the local bakery, they all have one. Bake a bunch and let me know the results. It is a pleasure chating with you, and thanks for responding to my request. Your attention to detail is making me a better baker.👍

  • @99nerka
    @99nerka2 жыл бұрын

    Here in Poland every smallest shop carries fresh yeast so that's what i'm using for my baking. To get dry stuff (which i genuinly never used) you need to go to big megamart type of store. About it expiring. I've used fresh yeast 1months after expiration and it worked just fine for me it was just super crumbly. When it get's to expiration date tho just portion it and freeze it, and use it from frozen... when thaving it will transform into goo but it will work just fine.

  • @romystumpy1197

    @romystumpy1197

    Жыл бұрын

    I go to my polish shop in the UK,as it's the only place I can buy fresh yeast, I prefer fresh yeast ,I've had best results from using it

  • @MegaAwesomeAnnie
    @MegaAwesomeAnnie Жыл бұрын

    Greay video on a topic I've always wondered about but never seemed to have the time or motivation to test myself! Quick question please: what are the physical characteristics you look out for to determine when proofing is done? I am a newbie baker and so far I've gone by how tacky the dough feels, but I wouldn't know with a drier dough if I was removing it from proofing too soon. Any advice please?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Let it double during bulk fermentation and let it not quite double during final proof. That works in most cases.

  • @barbarab733
    @barbarab7332 жыл бұрын

    vielen Dank für diese Video 😊

  • @kelcyi5494
    @kelcyi54948 ай бұрын

    Hi Chainbaker... I love your bowls that u use..... Is it available on your Amazon? Or Ikea?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey! I've added them to the Amazon shop just now. Cheers :)

  • @mad_incognito
    @mad_incognito Жыл бұрын

    When I use fresh yeast I mix it with sugar to ‘melt’ it. It becomes a nice beige liquid and then can be easily mixed into the dough. In Switzerland I used fresh yeast but here it is hard to get and I got used to dry yeast.

  • @chrissykes4470
    @chrissykes44702 жыл бұрын

    You are the king chain baker thank u

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I'm the king, then pro bakers are gods! ;) And in my eyes they may as well be!

  • @chrissykes4470

    @chrissykes4470

    2 жыл бұрын

    You included!

  • @dcs4555
    @dcs4555 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏

  • @dcs4555
    @dcs4555 Жыл бұрын

    well, this is the 1st time i've paid for knowledge, as far as i can remember. but it was worth it. lol. maybe dumb to a lot of people, but i was soaking up the info. thanx

  • @dcs4555

    @dcs4555

    Жыл бұрын

    dang i wish we could edit. i guess i should have said paid for a youtube info...

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much 😊 Check out the Principles of Baking playlist for more informative videos 😉

  • @TXlabratt
    @TXlabratt6 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed AND learned from yet another of your demos: showing and giving the explanation WHY clears up alot! Question: here in America, there's active, instant, pizza and wet yeast. So where does pizza yeast fall in your 3 main categories??

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    6 ай бұрын

    I've never heard of dedicated pizza yeast. Pizza is just bread. I don't think it needs special yeast.

  • @Helllllllsing
    @Helllllllsing2 жыл бұрын

    Some say that it is a result of all moonshine making but in Sweden you can buy fresh yeast in every food shop. But I keep a package of dry yeast in case I ran out of fresh.

  • @ItsJustMeBrett
    @ItsJustMeBrett2 жыл бұрын

    The only time I’ve blamed my oven is After baking for about 3-4 months, And constantly burning everything but pizza. I bought a thermometer and realized That my oven was 85F degrees higher then what it was set to. I tried to see how hot it would burn so I tested it and I eventually got my oven to almost 650 F I have a new oven now.

  • @hiroyopoetker
    @hiroyopoetkerАй бұрын

    superb!!

  • @philip6502
    @philip65022 жыл бұрын

    Hi Charlie, a little off subject, but the loaves of bread in this video, what weight would you say they are when finished? Thanks. 👍

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Around 200g after baking 😊

  • @tugruler
    @tugruler2 жыл бұрын

    Hi a pro bread maker on youtube adds salt and yeast to the dough after it has some time to rest beforehand , in your opinion does it make any difference if everything mixed at once or salt \ yeast later

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like autolyse which is a method sometimes used to hydrate the flour. It is beneficial for wetter doughs. You can find a video on this in the'steps of baking' playlist :)

  • @ashkanahmadi
    @ashkanahmadi3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as usual. Would you say more or less 1gr active = 2gr dry = 3gr fresh yeast?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not exactly. That would be too easy 😄 1g instant = 1.2g active = 3g fresh 👍

  • @cliffcox7643
    @cliffcox76434 ай бұрын

    One less thing to worry about... I guess you're right,,, Whatever is the most active and most available. Where Im at in L.A. I only see dry active yeast.

  • @gilperon
    @gilperon2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your vídeos, you are a scientist my friend!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dodgy scientist I'd say 😂 Cheers!

  • @ar_altamimi
    @ar_altamimi2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Really enjoying your videos! I was wondering, what about brewer's yeast?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I have ever used a brewing specific yeast. But as far as I know they should be similar. Although bread yeast is probably designed to work best in bread.

  • @ar_altamimi

    @ar_altamimi

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ChainBaker Brewer's yeast is widely used in Italy for pizza dough. I have never tried it myself, but from my understanding it does give the dough a slightly different taste as more ethanol is produced during the fermentation process. Would love to hear your thoughts if you ever give it a try! :)

  • @suebattersby5452
    @suebattersby54522 жыл бұрын

    Is Saf Levure which is highly recommended active dried yeast really just the same as all the others?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think there is any yeast worse or better than any other. It's how you use it that will make the bread. Yes, some are produced to have better tolerances to sugar or low temperatures, but still any yeast can be used to make any bread.

  • @TohaToni
    @TohaToni8 ай бұрын

    Things are easy in my country, you mainly find 1 brand on the shelf with two choices 😀 Instant and fresh yeast. Only thing to notice is that 1 cube of fresh yeast that weighs 40g contain 21g of yeast. Compared to 1 bag of instant yeast contain 7g yeast.

  • @ZefixYT
    @ZefixYT2 жыл бұрын

    I'd make my bread/-rolls/doughs with anything "yeast" - but prefer instant-yeast, just because i can store it for a long time, so i can store a bigger amount (i still regulary encounter empty shelfs in my local supermarkets). Bought a 500g pack, store it in the freezer - and i can use it directly out of the freezer. And while it's possible to freeze fresh yeast, it takes up more space and it's harder to divide into the right portions.

  • @DukeofHexx
    @DukeofHexx Жыл бұрын

    Have you done a comparison with these yeasts and sourdough? I'd be interested in pros and cons baking with commercial yeast compared to sourdough.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX6cx5V7l6TAp84.html ✌️

  • @agylub

    @agylub

    Жыл бұрын

    My daughter did a full patisserie course and became obsessed with sourdough. Eventually we both agreed it was a waste of time, flour and containers and was basically a method developed when you couldn’t buy 500g of yeast for $4.50. Now you can and dry yeast makes fantastic bread.

  • @DukeofHexx

    @DukeofHexx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@agylub Yeah, I tried keeping sourdough starter. Very time consuming and not very practical if you're not constantly baking.

  • @mateusfccp
    @mateusfccp2 жыл бұрын

    How do I know how much time it have to proof? I mean, there's obviously the size factor, but I find it harder to measure how much the dough has grown, except when I make preferment inside a cup, for instance, which is way clearer. Also, if I am in a colder ambient temperature, the dough will take more time to proof. Does it result in different flavor? If so, should I try to increase the ambient temperature, like with a heater or something?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I try to let it almost double in volume. That is always a good indicator. It should result in a different flavour depending on how much longer it will ferment. You can increase the final dough temperature and that should give it a good head start.

  • @austinhoward6557
    @austinhoward65572 жыл бұрын

    How do you learn to know when something is ready or overproofing? I understand the idea that you will learn with time, but I don't know if I make bread enough to learn. The 'double in size' rule that I see a lot seems alright... but I'm also not a very good judge of that sort of thing. I've only messed up bread I made once, overcrowding a too small oven, but I don't know how to tell these sort of things.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is true that it can only learned by practicing. But that is why I always film timelapses of my dough rising to give you a good idea on how it should look. All of my videos have that in them. So, if your dough looks like mine, then you're good to go.

  • @roxiviski9860
    @roxiviski98602 жыл бұрын

    Video molto, molto interessante. Ottimo lavoro

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grazie!

  • @cliffcox7643
    @cliffcox76434 ай бұрын

    My question though is if making yeast from something such as fermenting raisins,, is that the same organism as my Sourdough starter from all purpose flour?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    4 ай бұрын

    There are countless different wild yeasts. While both may be able to leaven bread, the one made from flour and with flour will do it most effectively.

  • @user-fz7bp8mh2y
    @user-fz7bp8mh2y2 ай бұрын

    Hi! So I’m looking for more volume on my bakes without adding more grams. A chef I work for said i might not be using enough yeast. I use 1.4% on all my recipes. Do you think bumping to 1.8% like you do in this video will help me get more volume? And if not that, then any other tips? Thanks as always, Chainbaker!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 ай бұрын

    Try scalding for a soft kind of bread kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3hhprmJkcmzfc4.html Or playing with the hydration of a regular loaf. If the dough that you're adjusting is a relatively low hydration one, you could increase it a bit and vice versa.

  • @Fatimazation
    @Fatimazation2 жыл бұрын

    Your video really changes my mind regarding many things, I wanted to make breads for a while now but the fact that everyone was using active dry and the one available to me was instant yeast so now I can't wait to work with what I have but I do want to know is how do you measure yeast if the one in the recipe is not what you have?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a conversion for swapping out instant for active. You should multiply the amount of instant yeast by 1.2. Some say that it is more like 1.3, but I have always used the 1.2 multiplication and it has worked for me. To do it the other way around multiply the active yeast by 0.83. All my recipes use instant yeast and there are more than 200 recipes on my channel, so have at it 😄

  • @Fatimazation

    @Fatimazation

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker thank you💖

  • @themaster-jp6sp
    @themaster-jp6sp2 жыл бұрын

    should My instant dry yeast bubble up in water? or is that bollox? I'm using doves farm quick yeast. doesn't bubble in water. neither did my active dry yeast.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    It should go frothy if you leave it for long enough, but I don't see a reason to do so. Just add it to the other ingredients and it will bubble up inside you bread 😉 I use the same yeast as you do most of the time.

  • @aldoromo5008
    @aldoromo50082 жыл бұрын

    "It must be the yeast' fault" I just love the way this guy called people stupid in such a gracious way.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not my goal to call someone out or to criticize their methods and way of thinking. I just like to find things out for myself instead of believing in things someone told me. And once I find out I share my findings here. And sometimes they're wrong too 😂

  • @aldoromo5008

    @aldoromo5008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker 😂! Dude, while i have your attention let me say that I'm a big fan and I love your content. Precisely all the experimenting and sharing of your findings has me hooked and binge watching all your videos on my spare time. Also, I never thought i could understand bakers % until I saw your video. Keep up the good work!

  • @faisalnahid527
    @faisalnahid5272 жыл бұрын

    I heard buffering the salt with flour before mixing with the yeast. Is there any base to it?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    It has not effect. Here is my video about it - kzread.info/dash/bejne/l65tl7amg66tYJc.html

  • @piratesalleycats2290
    @piratesalleycats2290 Жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate your teaching videos and have been searching for one that addresses the additon of parmesan cheese after three tries of a recipe that burned at the specified time and temps covered and uncovered. Original was 450 for 30 mins covered then 10 to 15 uncovered. Third try, I did 400 for 45 mins qnd barely a minute uncovered. The bake was decent this time, but the bottom was still kind of burnt. I am wondering if it is even possible to get a nice bake. Seems like the parma is really causing issues.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    How much parmesan are you adding?

  • @piratesalleycats2290

    @piratesalleycats2290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker parma 3/4 grated. Bread flour 4 C. Also includes 1 C chopped dates and 1/2 C. Chopped walnuts, but I thought the parma was the likely reason for the exterior burn and interior not done. Thanks SO much for responding.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah could be the parmesan. Try using a bit less or bake at lower temperature for a longer time.

  • @piratesalleycats2290

    @piratesalleycats2290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker thank you!

  • @pino_de_vogel
    @pino_de_vogel2 жыл бұрын

    About expiring dry yeast. I have a 125g pack of yeast i bought in 2018 that i bake with every once in a while as a experiment to see how long yeast lasts. I store it in a glass jar in the fridge at 5c and it still works fine. Last bread is planned in juli and then it will be 5 yrears old. which i find enough too proof it wont really die off in a meaningfull way. My goal was 2 years so 1 year past expiration date on the pack (and that is 1 year after production date) . So people should feel free to buy bulk as the yeast will last plenty of time for a moderate baker to use it all.

  • @sujatafernandes973

    @sujatafernandes973

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends in which country u live in. Here in India dry yeast will not last more than 6 months as the temp is very hot here.

  • @pino_de_vogel

    @pino_de_vogel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sujatafernandes973 I have no idea how lang it will last outside the fridge but i mentioneed inside the fridge en then outside temps dont mater. If you don't have a fridge that changes things ofc.

  • @darindef
    @darindef2 жыл бұрын

    Most of your videos sound more like life advice than baking, but this one takes the cake.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers! 😄

  • @588158
    @5881582 жыл бұрын

    can you tell me what causes an unopened package of instant dry use loses its power after it's expiration day?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I never knew it did. I've used yeast past its best before date and it worked just fine.

  • @jean-luchelmcke1845
    @jean-luchelmcke184511 ай бұрын

    Hello Chain Baker, just to confirm you used x3 times the quantity of fresh yeast in comparison to the other 3 right?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes ✌️

  • @rockets4kids
    @rockets4kids2 жыл бұрын

    Have you (or has anyone) ever tested what happens when you inoculate a starter with saccharomyces cerevisiae, maintain that as you would a sourdough starter, and then compare that against a "wild captured" sourdough starter?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    No. But that does sound like an interesting project. I wonder how different the flavour would be.

  • @rockets4kids

    @rockets4kids

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker As a relative newbie I am wondering how much of the "sourdough" flavors come the baking process and how much come from the strain of yeast. I also wonder how many people transitioning from factory yeast to wild caught are accidentally inoculating with factory yeast. My understanding is that the process of making a starter selects for the most active strain so this is something I could see happening. In any case, if you're looking for more projects... ;-)

  • @dashas5198
    @dashas5198 Жыл бұрын

    I've been on a binge through all your videos after realizing how many things I've done wrong ahaha. A question, if you don't mind - how do you test whether your yeast is still alive and good for baking, without wasting a bunch of ingredients? I've been relying on the warm water + sugar let sit for 15 min, but after watching your video on the effects of sugar I'm rethinking the validity of this.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    I have never had dead yeast. I have used yeast that was 2 years out of date and it worked just as well. Not sure if it can even die at all. If it's kept dry it could last indefinitely. And if you bake regularly, then there is no chance that it could ever die before you use it up 👍

  • @dashas5198

    @dashas5198

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker oh woah, thanks for the reply! I suppose I'll experiment with what I have a bit more and see 😁Going through your videos has been very interesting. Will take me a while to implement enough of your recipes to make it all stick, but looking forward to trying

  • @shuai420
    @shuai420 Жыл бұрын

    Locally, they readily sell fresh and instant dry yeast marketed for either "food bread" or "sweet doughs" (>37.5g sugar per 840g flour). Apparently they both consist solely of yeast (and water), only differing in the yeast strain in question. In your comparison of different sugar content in doughs you mentioned that yeast doesn't need added sugar to ferment, rather using maltose derived from the starch in the flour. Is this also true for yeast strains marketed for sweet doughs? Is the only difference then resilience to dehydration by osmotic pressure?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's still the same strain of yeast saccharomyces cerevisiae. Perhaps the way it is processed is different to make it tolerate sugar better.

  • @nonsuch
    @nonsuch Жыл бұрын

    Hi, was that sugar or salt that you added with the water and yeast? I didn't hear you mention it. Thanks!

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Salt. There's no sugar in this video ✌️

  • @nonsuch

    @nonsuch

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ChainBaker Thanks for the reply! I was just curious. Right before this video I watched your video on how the sugar wasn't necessary under normal circumstances and even slowed the process. I appreciate the tips! 🥂

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    ✌️😎

  • @gyorgybereg6916
    @gyorgybereg6916 Жыл бұрын

    There is a Facebook group that I am in, and they say that a particular dry yeast is the least active in the country. Well, it works best for me. What I done? I put the yeast in the fridge after I bring it home. What do you say? We should refrigerate/freeze dry yeast?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    I have never done that. And I have used dry yeast that was two years past its 'best before' date and it still worked as intended :)

  • @NafirKeyh
    @NafirKeyh Жыл бұрын

    A perfect video...

  • @eddybash1342
    @eddybash13422 жыл бұрын

    Hi, How do you know you have to use 1.5 of dry yeast and 4.5g of fresh yeast ? You do not know the quantity of cells being alive for each one. There are lot of dead cells in the dry one because the drying process kills lot of cells. The activity of the fresh yeast is better than the dry yeast because saccharomyces cerevisiae is in ' sleeping mode ' for the dry yeast. The other one is in ' idle mode '. So the fresh yeast responds very quickly. Every 90 min, 1 cell of saccharomyces cerevisiae gives 2 cells ( best case). In the fresh yeast, the cells' enzymes are ready to ' eat' the sugar because the latency period is short compared to the dry yeast. Before the baking, i think you do not have the same quantity of saccharomyces cerevisiae for each sample. ;) We see the quantity of CO2 produced is higher for the fresh yeast. ;)

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I guess that is a good point. But at the same time I know what works because I have done it countless times this way 👍

  • @alexgemmell7629
    @alexgemmell76292 жыл бұрын

    What about using brewers yeast to make a loaf?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brewers yeast is not designed to produce as much CO2 as bakers yeast, so it may result in a smaller loaf perhaps. Or it would just take longer to rise.

  • @ScribblebytesWorldwide
    @ScribblebytesWorldwide Жыл бұрын

    That's a beautiful effing chain. Mine is like 1/100th thine of that but same hand and everything. I don't understand people who wear jewelery on the right hand. Like you wipe your tush with that hand. Always go left. Love your video. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    😄

  • @MrSpiritchild
    @MrSpiritchild2 жыл бұрын

    It would seem to me that while the yeast is yeast, the different types are for different purposes. IE, fresh yeast used in bakeries where you have to cook lots of breads, the faster fermentation increasing production potential. If I were to guess, perhaps active dry yeast might work better in recipes where sweetness is involved, (the rumor I learned was using sugar while activating it) like with fruits and syrups, while instant might work better with fat. Of course, this is a new hobby of mine, so, take it with a grain of yeast... Now I'm not saying we can't make bread every bit as flavorful with any particular yeast then with any other, just that the type of yeast you use, versus the type of bread you make, might make one of the yeasts more efficient then another.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very good point there! And I totally see it now. Perhaps I will make a part 2 for this video someday. Thanks for the input.

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech67792 жыл бұрын

    I would guess the fresh yeast was faster to become active because it is not as dormant. I believe large bakeries use fresh yeast because it is lower cost in large quantities. After the yeast has grown they simply filter it from the liquid and that is the fresh yeast cake, no more processing cost to dry and crumble and package in sealed containers. The only downside to fresh yeast is as you said, a much shorter shelf life. Long ago the fresh baking yeast was a side product of beer brewing, the main downside is that beer yeast has a little bitterness from the hops but this is only a problem in breads with a large percentage of yeast. The other difference is that strains of beer yeast have been selected for performance in liquid (flavor, tolerance to alcohol, settling out quickly, etcetera), and bread yeast strains have been selected for fast fermentation in commercial bakery dough. I do not know if the difference would could be noticed in hand baking, it is more of an issue with automated machines with set timing and temperature control.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all the insightful comments. I have learned a thing or two already :)

  • @mytech6779

    @mytech6779

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker I worked in a brewery many years ago and learned much about yeast.

  • @monicayu5619
    @monicayu5619 Жыл бұрын

    I never dissolve the active yeast, it seems just work fine.

  • @GhostsOfSparta
    @GhostsOfSparta Жыл бұрын

    Yeast is a fungi it's not bacteria. I like your comparison videos! ❤

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    I meant to say microorganism 😅

  • @beinerthchitivamachado874
    @beinerthchitivamachado8742 жыл бұрын

    LOL, I've definitely blamed my Yeast before. I wanna ask tho, is it true that Salt kills yeast? Or that Water or Milk should be at a specific temperature to not kill the yeast? Because I've seen videos where they say that if that Milk or Water is too Cold or too Hot it will Kill the Yeast.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Salt may kill yeast only if you let them sit together for an unreasonably long time. I never separate them and I have never had any issues. When it comes to temperature, yes a hot liquid will kill yeast, but only if it's over 50C.

  • @ninelaivz4334
    @ninelaivz43342 жыл бұрын

    is this true for pizza dough also? Because I think they prefer to use lievito di birra.

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can make pizza with any yeast. I think fresh yeast is the same as beer yeast anyway. But don't quote me on that one haha!

  • @ninelaivz4334

    @ninelaivz4334

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChainBaker I think you are correct. I went to an Italian delicatessen asking for lievito di birra. The sales guy didn't know what I was talking about 😂 but he wasn't Italian however he said they sell fresh yeast!

  • @FlatTopSquib
    @FlatTopSquib Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that you did not have to bloom the dry active yeast. Every jar of dry active yeast, and every recipe I have come across that uses dry active yeast, calls for blooming the dry active yeast in 110 degree Fahrenheit water for 10 minutes. Any thoughts on this?

  • @ChainBaker

    @ChainBaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's a video about that kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoF5vKlymqqsp6g.html ✌️😎

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