shortest leftist essay

@assaf_jerry

Ай бұрын

Fr fr

@confused_lefty

Ай бұрын

@@assaf_jerry ong no cap

@assaf_jerry

Ай бұрын

@@confused_lefty no cap indeed

@RichardFalkner

Ай бұрын

@@assaf_jerry most importantly, no ancap

@dylanrodrigues

Ай бұрын

That’s why we love em

Let us not forget those who are permanently unable to work, those who are unemployed and those who are excluded from employment. Those are not traditionally proletariat but in recent years they are a growing social force. Very good video Zoe

@darkojan14

Ай бұрын

revolutionary potential of the NEET

@breadandpeace447

Ай бұрын

@@darkojan14 yeah exactly, even tho in the traditional definition they are not proletariat they are a unique social force with revolutionary potential as you said. It is very interesting because they are not exploited, they don't exploit, they don't live by their own work (self-employed), still they are not luben-proletariat. They are ex- proletariat or a proletariat in latent form but still is a topic for discussion, I think all those workers who are unemployed fue to technology, those who are mentally ill, students who never gonna work in their fields, those who have disabilities, the army of reserve workers etc, all affected directly by capitalism

@judiciallegislator

Ай бұрын

I think Marx refers to them as “the reserve army of labor.”

@judiciallegislator

Ай бұрын

Actually wait no that’s those who are able to work but are unemployed never mind.

@breadandpeace447

Ай бұрын

@@judiciallegislator yes Marx has referred to them as an inherent feature of capitalism. The thing is that this reserve army is long-term unemployment, for a period of time they are not in proletariat but that's a topic of discussion, the question is then what are they ?

The notification I got include the words "please work" in the title. I can only imagine how many failed attempted uploads it took before begging to the KZread gods

@turntower6563

Ай бұрын

I saw it too lol

@RichardFalkner

Ай бұрын

Ha ha me too. Presumably Zoe is having a well earned snooze after uploading this and will fix it tomorrow. I look forward to watching this!

@user-sl6gn1ss8p

Ай бұрын

Oooh, I thought it was asking me to work. You know, to be part of the proletariat. Maybe I need some sleep. Then again, the video's not gonna watch itself.

One of the things I love about your style of videos is not only are they very informative, but have such an incredibly dry, absurd, and specific style of humor. Like ending a 2 hour video on the history of the word Proletariat with the opening theme from Revolutionary Girl Utena. Brilliant.

@carlosdumbratzen6332

23 күн бұрын

Utena is definitely revolutionary. Sadly not that much anime is as analytically as Utena.

I’m not a Marxist, I’m a Bakerista

I have not seen it yet but my prediction is that it's going to be a complete banger. I'm watching it later and will return with an update. EDIT: It was an absolute banger

@user-sl6gn1ss8p

Ай бұрын

I'm in the exact same boat right now

Very informative video. One recommendation, visualising stats and data would improve the video. When you were mentioning what percentage of the population worked in agriculture vs rural manufacturing vs urban areas, having graphs on the screen to show the data would make the information much more comprehensible. Similarly, when reading out dates, visualising that using a timeline would help a lot.

Working at Starbucks making like 30 lattes in an hour for $5-7 each, while I was only paid $10/hr, is what made me understand the labor theory of value.

@bandito_burrito

9 күн бұрын

You could get that from Adam Smith, though. The crazy thing about Marx is how unoriginal he (deliberately) is; he uses already existing analyses of capitalism *and* socialism in order to treat them with immanent critiques.

It worked don't worry ur so cool

@anarchozoe

Ай бұрын

Lol forgot to change the title until last minute. Spent the entire day getting round adobe premier and youtube being a nightmare.

This was such a fantastic introduction to conceptions of classes! Really appreciate the historic exploration of the different definitions and their sources and evolution. Also loved the call to action and the anime outtro. Solidarity!

The more I get into more contemporary, less Eurocentric socialism, the more alienating it is to hear proto and early socialist thought, especially on history. It really jarring to hear a guy say they don’t do slavery anymore in the 19 century as black women in America. Still really interesting stuff.

@josephk.4200

16 күн бұрын

Very true that racism was still common even among most early socialists. If it wasn’t European, it wasn’t worth talking about. A simple through line to Hitler, really; his “socialism” being explicitly nationalist, racist, and exclusionary.

Thanks Zoe! You are truly a indispensable member of the movement. 🖤✊♥️

Finally, good anarchist KZread content

@trhll5635

Ай бұрын

Great recommendations include Andrewism and Anark

@EvelynNdenial

Ай бұрын

anark's good too

@ThePathOfEudaimonia

Ай бұрын

Zoe, St. Andrew and Anark are my personal Holy Trinity of KZread.

@HeyJinx

Ай бұрын

​​@@trhll5635 I don't like Andrew's content tbh. He's way too focused on this weird solarpunk thing

@blowfishfootman

22 күн бұрын

@@HeyJinxfr

i hope this is also in an academic journal somewhere. incredibly high quality

Your channel has grown substantially since I last checked! From 40k to 80k! Congratulations.

It’s working!!! Dropped everything to watch.

Using the Revolutionary Girl Utena opening theme at the end was a nice touch.

Love the Utena outro song

This should have millions of views, impressive work

@lewisbaitup6352

Ай бұрын

*billions

The people united will never be defeated!

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

Depends on who do you consider people or "the people"

Best way to spend 2h of today's evening I could've asked for!

1:09:45 50 year old marx/engels ship art from a gay communist newspaper jumpscare

holy fuckin bing bang bong a bajillion minutes of Zoe Baker goin off. this is a good day. edit: this is the easiest game of where's waldo but its Zoe I have ever played btw.

Excited to watch this over the weekend

So glad you didn't leave. Thought you disappeared. Was super disappointed. I was ready to pour one for a yt anarchist og

Not related to the discussion of the proletariat itself, but what game is being played at 34:35-34:58?

@BarbarianGod

Ай бұрын

Kingdoms and Castles, 2017 video game

Wake up honey new Zoe Baker movie just dropped

For the algorithm! Thankyou for such an educational video!

Yeah! Great point about specific up-and-coming classes versus the general proletariat of all alienated, exploited labor (it doesn't have to generate profit directly! It's enough that the economy as a whole is organized to maximize the profits of capitalists!)

1:47:04 ; what a beautiful way to end this crucial video essay! thank you so much comrade Zoe for your hard work, hope you doing good 🏴 and donate to Zoe, now

Great work!

Is it possible the the formation on nationalism was more readily adopted/ co-opted as a way to counter class consciousness? Like you aren’t a worker, you are an Italian. Has anyone written on this positively or negatively?

Thank you for your service.

Thank you for your incredible work! ❤️🏴🖤

Excellent video! Just curious, about your footnote, where did Draper claim this? I never read this claim before. This definition would exclude dock workers from the proletariat which I doubt Marx would have done.

@anarchozoe

Ай бұрын

Draper writes at the start of Karl Marx's theory of revolution volume 2: The proletariat "consists of workers whose livelihood depends on a wage relationship with employers of labor power, and who therefore produce surplus value in the process of commodity production." "The proletariat does not include all wage-workers. For example, it does not include wage-workers employed by government-road-building workers, in one example by Marx-since strictly speaking they do not produce surplus value in the course of commodity production" "The proletariat does not consist only of workers “at the point of production” (again, however that phrase is interpreted). For example, transportation may contribute to the surplus value of the transported commodity; and a truck driver may be as proletarian as an assembly line hand." So Draper would include dock workers for the same reason he includes truck drivers.

@ilhamrahim9269

Ай бұрын

@@anarchozoethank you very much

Bookmark 1:11:57

not every day you encounter another Caesar III fan

Comment for the algo! Let's go Zoe!

Pop Culture Detective, Alexander Avilla, Zoe Bee, Zoe Baker... Any other bangers in store for us this month?

LOVE IT!!!

intro is from Caesar III, a roman city builder, its on steam highly reco. Plebs are needed!

This is perfect timing for me! 😂❤

What anime song was in outro

@anarchozoe

Ай бұрын

intro song for revolutionary girl utena. Is called rondo revolution

lmao the credits

Wonderfully researched video as always! Though I don't really buy the intersectional argument you presented here anymore. It's absolutely true that a unified class is more powerful. But the In practice (at least in a conservative country like the US), the only options are being a small group with correct views on oppression, or appeal to the working class as a whole by adopting less progressive views. Importantly, if you choose the latter option, people in general won't listen to you because of their own partisan views.

eyyyyyyyyy she's back

Something to do with Roman terminology for people that don’t have land but can/can’t legally vote.

Not really important, but was there an editorial choice on your pronunciation of "Scarcity" or was it just an an error from reading the script?

@anarchozoe

Ай бұрын

I have dyslexia and so mispronounce words all the time.

@islandsedition

Ай бұрын

@@anarchozoe ahhh. Of course, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. More importantly, thanks for video, really informative and comprehensive.

The whole point of figuring out who's in what class is simply to figure out who owns and who labors! Who dictates and who is dictated to!

It's those in favor of leteriaing. In opossition we have the antileterians or, as they're known in french, bourguieoesese. Sad that so many miss this quite essential part of Marx's work.

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

I can't find leteriaing in duckduckgo

@ThePathOfEudaimonia

Ай бұрын

​@@erdood3235I think it's a (semi-)humorous comment about "pro" (in favour of) -letarians and "anti"-letarians (capitalist/bourgeoisie).

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

@@ThePathOfEudaimonia what's leterians?

@hellokittygaming42069

25 күн бұрын

@@erdood3235 From latin meaning: "writers of letters". In the early 19th century, the first indication of a strike within worker associations was a letter that all in the comunity wrote together to list their demands. Those agaisnt it were called the "bourgeoisie" from french meaning "letter burner" as they usually burned them in strike busting activities.

@hellokittygaming42069

25 күн бұрын

@@ThePathOfEudaimonia I would never spread misinformation on the internet 🥰

Real big brain

As a disabled enby trans woman, i have a problem with the talk here in the comments about "productivity". I feel that my value to socialists and such is only how much I can contribute to them. I feel alien and alienated from their socialist cause. that I am a subhuman whose worth is only how much I can contribute to *them*

@muffingeneral7596

Ай бұрын

I am very early into the video, but I feel this from a good bit of the left side of politics. There's many so called socialists and communists who seem to seem to believe in white supremacist,abliest,national chauvinistic, heteronormative and cisnormative beliefs as well as many others. How are we of minority- disenfranchised populations suppose to feel welcomed and truly apart of the movement when it seem a good bit of our comrades don't want us or even mock our needs? At what point do they start acting just like alot of the capitalists?

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

@@muffingeneral7596 my parents are Jews from USSR. So yeah

@eurydice.

Ай бұрын

Same!

@MrGoldfish8

Ай бұрын

You need to disentangle morality from productivity. I've only seen people in these comments use the term "productive" in a morally neutral way.

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

@@MrGoldfish8 no. I didn't know that was possible until some Marxist high brow nobleman bothered to explain that to me

Is it me or the title used to be what is the proletariat please work?, if so what did KZread do this time?

@elliswrong

Ай бұрын

think about it. she probably had a failed upload and was pleading with this upload to work, then when it worked she changed the name.

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wow new Zoe and a bunch of her ❤

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Me: I don't remember putting Rinbu - Revolution on this queue . Oh wait this is on the essay Basedbasedbasedbased

banger

Oh shit yeah, here we go

Let's goooo

What happened to the proletariat under stalin and mao?

lets gooo

New profile pic looks awesome

Pat"Socs" on sewerside watch after this one.

The working class

its always somethin for the LUMPEN

@erdood3235

Ай бұрын

What do you mean?

Revolutionary Girl Zoe Baker 😂😂😂

where proletariat is an individual distinction, namely 'those whose use to the state is only reproduction' bourgeoisie is spatial, as in 'those who subsist from the superfluous activity of a city'. Where preIndustrial bourgeoisie was impossible, postIndustrial proletariat is unsightly. As if to advance the vanguard, without bringing up the rear.

incredibly based video

it's Doomed

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Aw shit I'm feelin it