Looks like a clean blue river running through a pure white snow.

@vadimuha

2 жыл бұрын

Or like a Russian paddy wagon

@HussainjrMalik

2 жыл бұрын

I like the flag more than the current Russian flag. It is more unique compared to other flags. I would love to see it become their flag someday!

@juwebles4352

2 жыл бұрын

@@HussainjrMalik really, to me it looks like someone got rid of one of the lines on the Finnish flag 🇫🇮

@HussainjrMalik

2 жыл бұрын

@@juwebles4352 yeah

@haven_lady675

2 жыл бұрын

@@vadimuha what's a paddy wagon?

This sounds like nonsense, but I can’t deny the resemblance of the protest flag with the flag of the Argentine province of Tucumán, the flag that is now in use for the province was the first Argentine flag, made by one of our founding fathers, Manuel Belgrano, he based it on the revolutionary cockade used by Argentines. It’s probably completely coincidental, but I still couldn’t ignore it’s resemblance

@JCquartz1

2 жыл бұрын

That’s so interesting. Yeah I’m Tucumano, Tucuman was the capital of Argentina back in the early colonizing days

@gaggleweed

2 жыл бұрын

It' is similar but the current flag is pretty similar to Netherlands or Luxembourg so no big deal.

@vadimuha

2 жыл бұрын

You'll be even more surprised when see how russian Paddy wagons are painted

@LordS20000

2 жыл бұрын

It's such a simple design... look at Poland, one of their Gmina Człuchów flag

@nickjayr0

2 жыл бұрын

self hating Russians aren't the brightest

A boy snatched a tricolor flag with its staff from above a house-gate, ripped off the blue and white strips, and raised the red remainder of the “national” flag high above the crowd. Dozens of people followed his example. A few minutes later a multitude of red flags were waving above the mass of people. White and blue scraps of material lay everywhere and the crowd trampled them with their feet. -- October Eighteenth, 1905

@bagrat6085

2 жыл бұрын

counterintuitive flag design of removing the people symbolism while saying that it stands against oligarchy

@hirocheeto7795

2 жыл бұрын

@@bagrat6085 Didn't the white and blue stand for god and king? And the red stood for the people, or nation? Makes sense to me to be waving the red color and leaving the other two during a people's revolution. Edit: I mean these interpretations for 1905, which is when the quote is from.

@wtr3059

2 жыл бұрын

Yet today the Russian flag and its colours do not have any official meaning anymore. It's also kinda wonky to have the blue meaning "king" in the modern Russian flag, considering that they haven't had an official king since 1917.

@felixshprotov977

2 жыл бұрын

@@hirocheeto7795 Hi, I'm 20 and I'm from Russia. I've always dreamed, and now I really want to leave here :) At school we were taught that the white color on the flag of the Russian Federation is a symbol of purity, independence and freedom, blue is the color of loyalty and constancy, and red is the color of energy and blood shed for the fatherland. I like the concept of the new flag, because with such flag, after the end of this horror that has been going on here for a very long time, this country will be able to become a full and respected member of the world community again...

@v0idster

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixshprotov977 Надеюсь мы не вернёмся в ""цивилизованное" общество,эти события показали что правда за нашей страной

It's very bizarre to see people insist on Russia still being communist in any way. A lot of Ukrainian politicians talk about Russia as if it is communist and you hear constant comparisons between Putin's amibitions and the USSR despite the Russian Empire being a far better comparison in most aspects

@zavaraninoveuhorky

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, clearly Putin wants to be a tzar not a leader - you can see it by the way how he treats himself and in what palaces he lives in

@varvarith3090

2 жыл бұрын

Putin and ~80% of goverment nomenclature are from КПСС (CPSU - Communist Party of Soviet Union) Their history and methods are rooted in Chekism. Russia is'nt communist, but Putin's nomenclature ties us to the past.

@popcorn__3747

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe ussr because putin wasn't born during the fall of the Russian empire. Sure Putin isn't exactly communist. But he treats the fall of the USSR which was due to it being rife with internal issues. But Putin thinks of USSR as a breakup by the west like the treaty of Versailles but for Russia.

@ytspa6807

2 жыл бұрын

As Russian historian student I suppose Putin has much more historical references to Nicolas I but not to any of Soviet chairmen

@uvav

2 жыл бұрын

The trouble is that our regime can no longer understand who it is. On many truly Russian holidays, the flags of the USSR are raised. Many citizens infected with propaganda want to return the USSR based on Putin and Orthodoxy. On TV propagandists talk about the "democratic" nature of Russia and glorify the USSR. Complete shit .. Friend, our country is now just a collection of jokes written by a stoned drug addict

It's not quite "Belarusian protest flag", actually it's genuine Belarusian flag, the current official flag is the Soviet one.

@dylanvogler2165

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the flag of the Belarusian Democratic Republic as well as the flag of the current Republic of Belarus from before Luckachenko came into power.

@imionfamilin7057

2 жыл бұрын

How can a flag be genuine or not genuine, its just a piece of fabric used by the government. Would be correct to say its previous flag

@yuppieNL

2 жыл бұрын

@@imionfamilin7057 Because it featured the colours of the Belarusian people, first featured on banners and shields of Belarusian (at the time western Rus) princedoms like Polotsk. And later these same colours were featured ln the coat of arms of Belarusian duchies in the Commonwealth. Imagine if the English flag suddenly changed to a neon pink flag with a chess piece in the centre, that is pretty much how legitimate the current Belarusian flag is as opposed to the genuine and culturally appropriate white red white flag.

@imionfamilin7057

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuppieNL i dont support the idea that peoples have their colors as a characteristic. Maximum you could say their skin and hair colors are their colors. The political entities have distinctive signs and other stuff and the white-red-white flag is older than the soviet one, sure, but these speeches about genuity, i cant help but find it stupid and senseless. The current flag wouldnt be genuine if they declared that their official flag is white-red-white and kept using the soviet one

@np4653

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuppieNL There are no such things as "the colours of Belarusian people" or any other colours of the people. National flags and nation state flags are modern era construct which purely depends on who is the current ruling class in one society.

As a Russian myself, I just want to say, this is not my flag and never will be. I despise people staying under it and behind it even more than Putin and his deeds. So calling it a "new Russian Flag" is kinda overstatement.

@rodion7325

2 жыл бұрын

base

@rodion7325

2 жыл бұрын

я тоже презираю соевых кукулдов с этим дepьмом на аватарках

@wyldunknown2655

2 жыл бұрын

I also think because i have the feeling that they will throw everything away that the russian were stand and standing for. You can see it from a visional point because one picture says more then 1000 Word

@draconov_alt

24 күн бұрын

Пох, скоро вообще не будет такой страньі, а будет новая

the only purpose for this flag is to wipe yourself when you are short on toilet paper

@draconov_alt

24 күн бұрын

Ого "расколдованное" звомби прибежало

@user-qj7hu1yv2q

6 күн бұрын

True

Many people wonder what is the reason to change the flag? The most important one is that after 24th February Russian opposition living abroad could not use the official flag in Pro-Ukraine rallies because official flags were used by pro-Putin Russians alongside with the "Z" symbol to show support for the invasion. So there was a deep need for some symbols for the Russian opposition to develop some sort of distinction symbols to be absolutely clear and easy to explain what are they standing for. Honestly speaking historical references and other matters of symbolism were much less important in making the decision on adopting this flag.

@glebb..3416

2 жыл бұрын

Their atempt failed tho. Even Russians that are against the government dont use this flag but use the Soviet (leftists) or Imperial (conservatives) flag.

@euqy

2 жыл бұрын

@@glebb..3416 I have to disagree with You. The majority of Russian opposition abroad use it, while Russian opposition uses green flags. Imperial and soviet flags are used nearly only at pro-war events

@glebb..3416

2 жыл бұрын

@@euqy Not only pro war events. Russians abroad that use the "freedom" flag are a very small minority, often liberals that nobody cares about.

@jotmat5010

2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion it's an unpatriotic thing to do to change the colours of the national flag, because you disagree with something.

@edelweiss7928

2 жыл бұрын

Could have just shortened it down to “they are cringe”

Novgorod Republic never had a flag. Even though it is called "republic" it was a very distinctive political entity. Even on it's large scale military campaigns it's militia was merging with the hired-to-rule prince's druzhina under his flag or under Russian Orthodox cross.

@cjclow052

2 жыл бұрын

Its the modern day province flag of the regiom

@BebbaDubbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjclow052 right? That's what I heard too.

@glebb..3416

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjclow052 Then what does this new "flag" have to do with the "Novgorod republic" then? This whole idea is so dumb. The whole "novgorod republic resemblence" came as an afterthought. The initial idea was to just remove the red from the Russian flag. Which is a dumb idea.

@britishempire4181

2 жыл бұрын

Now she had

@subhanasadree2869

2 жыл бұрын

I dont like the new Russia flag.

The Novgorod Republic was definitely not a more democratic state; it was very clearly an oligarchy. Power was almost entirely centered among the wealthy elite families of the time, which during Ivan's time, were the boyars. Republic =/= freedom, it just means their society wasn't monarchial (although it was, their Rurikid princes were just elected by their elite). Also, side note, Magellan TV has a documentary about Ivan IV, where historians and psychologists explain Ivan's behavior becomes more understandable when you look at the way the boyars (most of them from Novgorod's sphere) abused him.

@clucknbell4613

2 жыл бұрын

Novgorod is famous in Russia for it's People's Council named Veche, boyars appeared much more later

@ALMAZ157

2 жыл бұрын

Magellan TV advertisement (Just kidding)

@PetukkaRussia

2 жыл бұрын

@@clucknbell4613 The Veche was long before the formation of Novgorod

@clucknbell4613

2 жыл бұрын

@@PetukkaRussia wdym? Novgorod is more than 1000 yo

@PetukkaRussia

2 жыл бұрын

@@clucknbell4613 The first mention of the Veche was in the 10th century, but it appeared long before statehood, back in the time of the tribes, because all Slavs of that time had their own analogues. In the same Poland in the 9th century, he chose the founder of the Piast dynasty. The Novgorod Republic was formed in 1136.

As a native russian,I do not like this flag,why we have to change our many hundred years historical flag on this thing,that makes no sense?

@mikhailkalinin6536

2 жыл бұрын

soviet flag was also new at some point. and now its iconic. for the better of for worse.

It just means Russia without people, just church and oligarchs

@thekraken1173

2 жыл бұрын

This would fit Turkey. No place for people. Just Oligarchs and Islam.

@manuelalves2139

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@luden1577

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what Novgorod republic was ;)))

@nikitachaykin6774

2 жыл бұрын

@@luden1577 Yep, and we all know how it ended.

a flag represents so much. the meaning can be subtle or in your face. what they stand for can change with time also. pride, prejudice defiance or support, all from a piece of cloth.

@muslimcrusader5987

2 жыл бұрын

Behold, symbolism.

@dirremoire

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, a flag has so much meaning. That's why I found the flag of the Azov battalion so offensive.

@charliefoxtrott1048

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds so silly, but it is true. Humans need symbols to gather around with other people of their 'kind'. You don't need country's to see it: Football/Soccer-matches as an example. And even there are differences if you are just waving the Clubs flag or are part of the "Ultras". Nowadays it's like beeing just a Grunt or a Navy Seal. And even then it just dont stop: "Oh, you are in Team 2.. that's sweet ... If I would tell you that I'm in 'SEAL TEAM SIX' I would have to kill you! But I won't! HaHa"

@kevinwarburton2938

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirremoire What's offensive about the Nordic rune for "idea of nation"? Even the Swastika doesn't belong to Nazis.

@vadimuha

2 жыл бұрын

Just accidentally being coloured just like Paddy wagon. White with a blue strip in the middle

That desing was also used as one of the many early prototype national flags of Argentina, this type was specifically used by general Belgrano in 1812.

@retosyjuegos5309

2 жыл бұрын

yes this flag is like the flag of the province united of the rio de la plata

@ezefinkielman4672

Жыл бұрын

Want a bigger coincidence. The flag of Misiones is the Russian flag but upside down.

I think this flag has a huge problem: It was created on a false idea that the red solely represented blood and imperialism. It does not. Like the video showed red in the flag represented the people of Russia. The blue-white-blue flag idea is very artificial, and it doesn't have the same historical importance in representing people of Russia than the tricolor white-blue-red.

@chatnoir1224

2 жыл бұрын

All flags were artificial at some point in the past.

@Bikavin

2 жыл бұрын

Well tbf coincidently many countries who use red color in their flag(united kindom,france,germany,russia,belgium,spain etc) are former imperialist

@chatnoir1224

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bikavin coincidently. There were a lot of non-impereiast countries with red color in their flags.

@Bikavin

2 жыл бұрын

@@chatnoir1224 coincidently,most of the imperialist with red color in their flag are conquering other countries with red color in their flag who are NOT a imperialist

@conmereth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bikavin Red is one of the most common flag colors in the world, over 3/4 of all UN member states have red on their flags. That's why so many former imperial powers use red

Wait a minute... Is it just me but is this looking strangely like the finnish flag.

@theTHwa3tes11

2 жыл бұрын

Not just you bro...

@CloutmasterPhluphyy

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it looked oddly familiar

@SneedPatch

2 жыл бұрын

Finnish patriots in control, trust the plan

@misham6547

Жыл бұрын

So Russia is just little Finland?

@proudtitanicdenier4300

Жыл бұрын

​@@misham6547 Russias pretty big

The actual Belarusian flag is exactly this peace flag but the blue stripe is red. I don't think this would fit Russia though. Belarusians have a considerable amount of history with their red white flag and it actually looks good as a state flag. I don't see any reason for why the tricolour which represented Russia for centuries could be replaced by a flag that doesn't even look that good. The French, Portuguese, Americans, British and Turks committed atrocities under the same flags they have now, seems dumb to me if anyone advocates to use the blue white flag as the state flag, as if the Russian tricolour is the Third Reich flag or something. Plus the WW2 German flag was also not representative of the Germans and their history either. It was an Ideological flag exactly like the peace flag, it's not long lasting like Russian culture and history. A better alternative would be perhaps using a lighter shade of the blue and red if the flag even needs to be changed.

@Silver_Prussian

2 жыл бұрын

My guy the belorusian identity apperaed in the 19th centuary just like the ukrainian one, not hating on them just saying it. Dont try to be something you never were you can be great by uplifting your real history and true connection to other nations such as russia and ukraine.

@Silver_Prussian

2 жыл бұрын

@@sp.8727 no its not it arose in the 19th centuary, the identity that the eastern slavs had was the kievan rus in genral slavs no russian nor belorusioans and ukrainians, ukraine means literaly border land so dont tell me how it was mentioned in ancient times.

@gianb3952

2 жыл бұрын

@@sp.8727 It's probably true that a distinctly "modern" Ukrainian nationhood formed within the last 2 or 3 centuries because of Romanticism. The elements of Ukrainian culture, and the Ukrainian people, and language do go back much further though.

@Silver_Prussian

2 жыл бұрын

@@sp.8727 the kievan rus was the state ancector from which all 3 countries came to be the first one was russia after the principality of moscovy formed russia. Muscovy was one kf the any principalities that were part of the kievan rus it was not yet russia. All 3 countries can claim the kievan rus as the beging on their history none can say its the begining of their existance, the ethnic and cultural lines didnt exist yet. Ukriane cant claim it has existed through the kievan rus because nobody there called themselves ukrainians they didnt have any kind of cultural resemblence to todays ukrainians. Dew to polish influence and the distance betweent the people differences began to appear.

@rootin222

2 жыл бұрын

No it’s the flag of Belarusian fascist collaborators

So basicly removing the stripe representing the people lol

After month of fighting, I heard some shouting from the Helsinki city center (Finland). I was with my friend walking home from work, and we were curious about what was happening and went to look. We knew it was some kind of protest. Then we saw these flags along with Ukrainian flags, and I was thinking: "Is that some kind of anti-Christian flag of Finland?" My friend could speak Russian and he understood what they were shouting. It was Russians against Putin march. We then understood that the flag we saw everywhere was for them, not for Finland. We joined the march for some time.

@itsve8632

2 жыл бұрын

do you also protest against the ukranian bombing of donesk and lukhansk? or do you also protest against the ukranian cutting of crimeas 80% of water supply creating a harvest failure in where ukraine did not respond and only russia did by giving out grain and bread to the people there?

@samr1931

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsve8632 Donetsk and Luhansk are illegally occupied by Russia as is Crimea. Ukraine has a right to resist this occupation.

@itsve8632

2 жыл бұрын

@@samr1931 no they arent? the people revolted in doensk and lukhansk agianst the ukranian goverment did you see the protests? ukraine is a state that was constatly bombing and trying (failing) to take over theae 2 nations, (they didnt do very well lol)

@MaycroftCholmsky

2 жыл бұрын

@@samr1931 don't react, he is likely a Kremlebot. As a Russian I can tell you the whole argument of "where have you been for 8 years while the Ukraine bombed Donbass" (Russuan "Где вы были эти 8 лет..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years%3F) was used by bots on every single comment chain in ВК in late Fabruary and early March since the propaganda had to give some sort of justification for the war.

@charlie8344

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsve8632 Ukraine cutting water makes sense, bc scorched earth but with water

I live in Russia and have never seen or heard of this flag. Weird!

@diond9927

Жыл бұрын

its a meaningless flag

@user-yx7ou9jt1e

Жыл бұрын

It's a Nazi Russian Flag used by RVC

It represents the American intelligence network in Russia

@glebb..3416

2 жыл бұрын

It represents soy

@salahabdalla368

2 жыл бұрын

This^ The Americans miss the Yeltsin era

Black-yellow-white is a beautiful and cool Russian imperial flag than white-blue-white

@prisonmike781

2 жыл бұрын

Сочетание этих цветов ничего не значит, имперский флаг полное говно

@tako7445

2 жыл бұрын

@@prisonmike781 зато красиво

@secularsekai8910

2 жыл бұрын

@@tako7445 👎

This white flag with a blue band has actually been for centuries the flag of the Canton of Zug in Switzerland. I have it on my car's license plate!

@falconeshield

Жыл бұрын

Sorry time to change it!

As a Russian, I am neutral to this flag. On the one hand, it can be useful for Russians living abroad, they can express their opinion against the war in order to at least somehow avoid possible discrimination. But on the other hand, I am categorically against this flag as a state flag. In fact, the current Russian flag has no official generally accepted meaning of colors. There are many definitions of what the colors of this flag are stay for, in some of these red means courage and bravery, as well as statehood. And it seems to me that negative associations can be matched to almost any color, even white (if you think about it, white is the color of one of the narcotic substances, lol) the main thing is to have a good imagination. Besides, this whole idea that "we will change the flag and immediately embark on the path of democracy, and everyone will love us again" seems silly to me.

@Jahanbakhsh35

2 жыл бұрын

Russia has always been loved by most non Western countries. Why need democracy to make everyone love it?

@user-fc8jz6hk1j

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jahanbakhsh35 yeah. West loved Russia only in 1990-es - when our country was weak, destroyed and was slowly collapsing. I don't think we need western "love", we need strong country and economy.

@s5r581

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fc8jz6hk1j to make ur country strong? Did you know that the communist party is killing 2 million people in Cambodia for refuse to be a slaves? That's why I'm hate Russia I'm Cambodia ខ្មែរក្រហមរបស់រុស្សីុចាញ់វៀតណាម។

@user-fc8jz6hk1j

2 жыл бұрын

@@s5r581 do you know, that Cambodian regime was supported by USA and wasn't supported by CPSU? And do you know, that theory of communism was created in Germany? Have you read at least one Marx's book?

@s5r581

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fc8jz6hk1j but Soviet union is the one who start spreading it. And start civil war in Cambodia.

Should've just done a Belarus and used their SSR flag without a hammer and sickle, because that's not lazy in the slightest

@kuroshthegreat8073

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that flag just be red with nothing on it?

@derserthefoxxo3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@kuroshthegreat8073 No, since the RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) had a unique flag from the USSR, having a blue vertical stripe on the left-hand side

@KennyNGA

2 жыл бұрын

@@kuroshthegreat8073 that would be a red flag

@derserthefoxxo3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@KennyNGA It would be a red flag with a blue stripe..

@thepopulationofkazakhstan1116

2 жыл бұрын

@@derserthefoxxo3873 no, The USSR and the RFSR had different flags

guy: red means blood shed literally all of Nato: 😅😅

what kind of idiot decided that red means blood, war and empire? What kind of idiocy? In terms of what the red line does then on the new flag of Belarus, what about the flags of the Balkan countries, China, the USA and others like them? I just don’t understand this I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, but I don't get it

@jaypolas4136

7 ай бұрын

Neither do I. Bullshxt. - From Croatia

Okay why we didn't delete red stripes from America flag? If in Russian it symbol of people in America it (idk) but we can say that blood and conflict in Syria! Or in Canada flag delete red colour? Only white! Looks good!

Complete nonsense no one in Russia takes seriously.

It looks good. (Finland)

@_masssk_

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, it's because you have the same colors? You know here in Ukraine we pretty much love Sweden colors, gon knows why :)

@fightingfinn1503

2 жыл бұрын

If finland was athiest :v

@aapomaatta9211

2 жыл бұрын

@@fightingfinn1503 haha kinda is already

@iveq4utube

2 жыл бұрын

Then how do you think US flag should look like? Hm...

@blackcoffeebeans6100

Жыл бұрын

@@aapomaatta9211 atheists in Finland are spreading this lie. There are a lot of devoted christians in Finland.

3:07 welp, it was not an "period full of hope" the 90s were the worst period of russia since the second world war, because capitalism was not working as expected :|

@mitchyoung93

2 жыл бұрын

Ten year drop in male life expectancy from 1990 to 2000.

@user-cx9nc4pj8w

2 жыл бұрын

I mean the start was...

@pixelchrome2

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cx9nc4pj8w n

Бело-сине-белый флаг - флаг куколдов.

@user-pe8nw6ww7p

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@Zafuc97

Күн бұрын

✅️👍

I like to see that many people even abroad Russia thinks that this flag is stupid.

@Alexxxxander

2 жыл бұрын

Because this is not a flag, this is incomprehensible nonsense to anyone. Our flag is beautiful 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺 only this flag and nothing else.

They just basicly just grabbed a flag of a Kherson Peoples Republic or the colors of OMON and that is their flag.

Quite ironic of erasing the stripe representing the people, as if it is the people which is the problem. And when you see those particular russians want to be part of the western bloc, the same western block that is currently committing demographic suicide, maybe that's the actual aim.

@lucibvee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah bro when everyone sees red they think of the Working class and not the crimes of the soviet union, schizo

@josephinee.becker6406

2 жыл бұрын

Russia loses a million people each year due to low birth rates and a failing economy. If anything, Russia is committing demographic genocide.

@angryaustriancake

2 жыл бұрын

I'm from Russia, and I've always heard that the red stripe means blood, not people.

@user-ze9py2nr8v

Жыл бұрын

@@angryaustriancake Red is a people The Blue King White God

@dungeon_masster.

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ze9py2nr8v вообще то синий это изолента соединяющая красных коммунистов и белых

We should call it "a flag created by some German women", which has no relation to russian people and russian opposition. If russian opposition would create a propose a flag - this would be acceptable. But no person would ever use something 2 foreigners created for other nation without asking them first.

While I agree that regime change in Russia may occur, I don’t think changing the flag is necessary or helpful in this case. The Russian tricolor is simply based on the Dutch tricolor and is actually a symbol of Russia’s triumphal reintegration with the rest of Europe after centuries spent recovering from the Mongol yoke. The assertion by protesters, well-meaning as they may be, that the red stripe in the flag stands for “war” is simply not true. The chosen replacement design also doesn’t make sense in the context of Russia’s history. I get that it is based off of Belarus’ own protest flag, the red-and-white Classicalist flag of Belarus, which is used by protesters against Lukashenko (who’s pro-Russian regime readopted the Soviet design, despite not being Communist). However Russia, on the other hand, is already using its Classicalist flag. Plus Belarus’ red-and-white design is based on the fact that it has a long history of being tied in with Poland and Lithuania, and emphasizes that side of Belorussian history over its history with Russia and the Soviet Union. Therefore it would serve no purpose except to perhaps emphasize that a post-Putin Russia would, alongside a post-Lukashenko Belarus, likely be sympathetic to the emerging Polish-Ukrainian bloc. Edit: I am being a bit dismissive of the connection to Novgorod which of course has an important place in Russian history with their defeat of the Germanic Order, before being destroyed and ransacked by Ivan the Terrible and annexed into Russia. The symbolism could reflect what can be seen as a more moderate version of Russia than Moscovia. Poland and especially Ukraine have really gotten behind this new design, such as Ukraine’s use of the flag for the new Russian Legion of the Ukrainian Army. Thus, despite my personal disagreement with the idea, it does seem possible that this flag may be used in a post-Putin Russia.

@ohajohaha

2 жыл бұрын

Post putin russia could emphasize on the novgorod history more I guess

@frenssu9350

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with what you said, and I may also add an example about switching flags alongside regime changes. I'm from Portugal, and we have been using our current flag (🇵🇹) since 1910, when the Republic was established and the Monarchy was abolished. From 112 years we've been using this flag, 40 were spent under an isolationist and oppressive dictatorship, however we didn't change our flag after we became a democracy. This is due to the fact that our flag has very deep historical references and represents Republicanism and hope for the future, rather than Authoritarianism, so it didn't have any ties to the oppressive regime (such as the current Russian flag isn't related to the Putin's Government). The same thing can be applied for Russia. In my opinion, if people really think that the Russian flag needs to change, they should just replace it with the one from 1991 (which has a lighter blue), that way you keep the historical value of the flag, but readopt something that represents the same hope Russians had after the fall of the USSR.

@CT--ox2iu

2 жыл бұрын

At the end of the day the choice is for the Russian people to make

@donmoccachino3867

2 жыл бұрын

Certain events change the meaning of certain symbols. The Swastika was pretty much just copied by Nazis from the original Hindu/Buddhist designs from Asia, but since Hitler and the Nazi regime did what they did, most people automatically associate the symbol with that, even if it isn't the intention. Russia has (both since and before the fall of USSR/Tsardom) been a murderer of nations, a conqueror of peoples and a land ruled by genocidal maniacs (with a few occasional exceptions). The Russian army and state, behaving the way it has, caused people to slowly change the way they see Russia as a nation, or at least its leaders. And with the genocide they unleashed upon Ukraine, the state's institutions have finally been recognized widely as synonymous with brutality and savagery. The current (and the '91) Russian flag absolutely has very deep history, that goes far beyond the invasion of Ukraine. But alas, Russia has done enough in the last century or two to alter the perception of it enough so, that people associate the red with blood more-so than "people". It happened with many nations and many opposition movements, and ultimately, it's hard (both as the victim and as the person living in a state that slaughters the victims) to see a red flag as anything more than a war-time banner covered in blood. Especially since the historical and thematic trope of associating red on a flag with something to do with fighting (fight for independence, fight against enemy, fight against/for ___, etc.) Also, the comparison with the Belarus Opposition flag is very much a topical thing. Belarusians and Russians both deal with similar issues, being basically led by a bloodthirsty maniac from the Kremlin. Whilst yes, there's aspects of the Belarusian flag that are very disconnected from Russia, being inspired by that flag and creating something similar doesn't mean the person creating is adopting every single thing that the Belarusian flag stands for - for example the comments about Polish heritage (as obviously Russia doesn't have that). The point of it so show solidarity with the Belarusian opposition, and also to show that they stand for the same ideals - freedom, human rights, democracy and integration with the west rather than inclination towards the eastern values (which have historically been associated more with authoritarianism). It also is inspired by the idea that the 3 nations (Ukraine, Russia and Belarus) can live in harmony (as it were (to some extend) back in history) rather than all nations being hostile towards one another in some way. A post-Putin Russia (understood as a Russia that turned to a democracy) would most likely be down for such a block as you mentioned - with the exception of it not being a "Polish-Ukrainian" block, but rather the Eastern European block. Pretty much all Eastern European nations (with the exceptions of some nations... *cough Hungary cough*) have been insanely supportive of Ukraine and in general the democratic movements in the respective countries. Of course, Poland is pretty much the regional superpower in that regard, but other states have a very large influence too, especially the Baltics. You see wide support for this flag not just in Poland or Ukraine, as you implied, but also from ethnic Russians themselves, and also other countries worldwide (for example Czechia, where I live, where we had an entire massive protest organized by ethnic Russians in Prague which waved this flag everywhere). The core principle of the flag, as is with the Free Belarus flag, is as simple as wanting a democratic regime. To say it doesn't make sense because of some silly reason like "it doesn't align with the Polish influence on Belarus" is, in my opinion, ridiculous and doesn't make any sense at all (ironically). Ask most people from Eastern Europe, and they'll tell you, that, after seeing Russians paint the Russian flag in conquered territories where they mass execute and mass rape civilians, the Russian flag is no more than a banner of war, a symbol of brutality and conquest, at least in the modern age and at least since the beginning of the invasion. Of course, if you know about history, you would know that the way Russia is treating Ukraine right now isn't anything new nor is it any different to how it treated Ukraine in the past or any other nation it wanted to conquer, but alas, most people don't really study history like that, so for them, the invasion was a big cold shower and a wake up call, which is what I'm basing the general opinion off of. Also, just a side note, but the whole argument about "Classicalism" is not only (imo) stupid and pointless, but also misses the fact that the Free Russia flag is inspired by and references the Novgorod Republic, a state arguably older (though non-existing now) than the Russian flag. In that sense, it is "more Classicalist than the Classicalist flag of current Russia", if you could even call it that. Of course, Novgorod Republic isn't a precursor to Russia as a modern-day state, but considering how Russia was formed, I feel like that's kind of a pointless argument.

@AlbertBasedman

2 жыл бұрын

@@donmoccachino3867 It's a flag that has been in use for hundreds of years. A single man should NOT change that. The problem lies with people who believe that a single man with a disagreeable ideology/actions should instantly change everyone's perception of any old symbol despite it being much older in comparison. Unlike the Sw*stika, it's plain and represents much more than the search for what made them special. Which is what the Nazis sought in the Sw*stika.

i thought that the red in the flag also stands for the people of russia. wouldnt removing it in the flag be negative, symbolising that this isnt a flag of the people?

@MrSkoresh

2 жыл бұрын

People using this flag are not familiar with the concept of logic. Initially, it was a meme flag from the Russian analogue of 4chan, it appeared a long time ago and it was essentially a joke, after the start of the war in Ukraine, some psychos decided to use it seriously, by analogy with the white-red-white flag of the protest movement in Belarus.

@HungaryBased

2 жыл бұрын

The flag is not the flag of the people. People that wave this flag are inheritantly anti-Russian and hate their history.

@NanamiNishijou

2 жыл бұрын

The white-blue-white flag is the new vlassovite flag, the cuckold flag

@geilleadh4852

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't of the people tho

@glif1360

2 жыл бұрын

First, the symbolism of the Russian flag colours is relatively obscure even in Russia and was "retconned" into it anyway. In fact, more Russians knew that these colours suppose to copy a Dutch flag, rather than that they have any meaning. Second, it's a flag used mostly by liberals. They do not care for each individual person in the country, but not for a people as a separate entity. Besides, the people in Russia are often understood as supporters of authoritarianism and general anti-humanism. They do not consider themselves a part of these grassroots masses and don't want to be perceived as them, this is actually the point of the flag. So I don't think it bothers them too much.

I'd love to see a video for the Belarusian flag since you mentioned it. I read in "Rise and Fall of Belarusian Nationalism" by Rudling that the red-white-green colors were used by the Belarusian bolsheviks much earlier than when they adopted the flag with those colours in the 1950s. Though they are still more recent "national colors" than the white-red-white. More than anything, though, I'd just love to see more people discuss the Belarusian People's Republic of 1918 and raise awareness of the white-red-white flag.

White blue white flag is very disrespectful for Russia as a nation.

I don't think the flag needs to be really changed, but right now it is used as a symbol for Russians opposing the war. For the moment it's good.

@user-gn3xo5so6e

2 жыл бұрын

Non-russian opposition which try to looked like russian*

@Thexorex

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

Ah, nostalgic Hilbert screen tearing in the beginning there.

@bokunogentoo4420

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was my drivers going again lol

Forget it, you will never see this flag again.

That Russian "Peace flag" is cringe and I spit on it.

@wyattmcgee1

Жыл бұрын

Mkay. I burn the real Russian flag, so I guess it evens out.

@NokiaTheReuploader

6 ай бұрын

agree, no need to change the flag that was for 400 years just because of a war

@jackiswack

3 ай бұрын

@@NokiaTheReuploaderif they just go back to the old one after I see no problem

@Черепабло

24 күн бұрын

I am from Belarus. I will not say red-white flag is bad, I will say isea of protests is bad. And 🇧🇾 flag is really cooler. White red is boring

The thing I like the most about this design is the connection to the legacy of Novgorod. It's worth adding what happened with the great city and its republic; in 1478 it was conquered by Ivan III of Moscow (who also reportedly burned its library and archives) and in 1570 Ivan IV 'the Terrible' made sure that the people of Novgorod won't ever rise up against him by massacring thousands of them. Also, since the Belarusian white-red-white flag was mentioned, I once again suggest making a video about it (and about the coat of arms - Pahonia).

@steve8610

2 жыл бұрын

_"The thing I like the most about this design is the connection to the legacy of Novgorod."_ As nice as that sentiment is, this is clearly more happenstance than intention. From what I can tell, there is no implicit or explicit connection to Novgorod or its flag.

@jurtcul8529

2 жыл бұрын

@@steve8610 the creator of the piece flag mentioned the connection to the Novgorod's historical flag

@steve8610

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurtcul8529 The creator does? Could you point me to that?

@jurtcul8529

2 жыл бұрын

@@steve8610 it was somewhere on twitter. Unfortunately, i can't find the original thread about the flag

@donmoccachino3867

2 жыл бұрын

@@steve8610 Don't have the link (and I'm not gonna scroll through twitter to find the exact tweet), but it is widely understood, both in Russia and abroad, to be a nod to the Novgorod Republic flag, and to have been an intentional reference/similarity. It's especially pronounced in various scholar circles formed of ppl who study Russian stuff and whatnot for a living (once again both domestic and foreign),

It's funny how according to the Russian flag symbology this flag left just god and king

@tofuthegod

2 жыл бұрын

Not really? It seems more like its trying to go with "God, justice, peace" as the light blue is a typical symbol for Justice. It would also make some sense if we look at the flag makers goals. They wish to make a new Russia and a new image for that Russia. God and religion as a whole is important to Russians so removing it would cause controversy. Plus "god" didn't cause the suffering of the people. Justice makes sense as it may symbolize the new age for Russia. One where those who caused others to suffer are put to justice. And peace is self explanatory. It most likely wants to show that "Hey Russia isn't the big scary bear to the east that's gonna eat all of you eventually" Note: I will not respond to shitty debates on whos wrong or right in this conflict. I personally hope that the human suffering going on will just end as soon as possible!

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

Ещё как смешно😆😅🤣😂.Осталось это понять только всем остальным людям в России,которые дрочат на эту ТРЯПКУ.

As a Russian person, I can say that this flag is clowned on by pretty much everyone in the context of replacing our current flag, no matter their stance on the war, including me. As a protest symbol, it has meaning and it's fine exclusively as a protest flag, but as a real replacement it would be horrible, because our flag has too much historical and ideological value. Even though Russians are not the devotees of their flag like Americans are, it still has meaning to us, even though before the February you'd rarely see it anywhere.

@shazamnegroid7379

2 жыл бұрын

this flag is mocking russia's history, the red color in the russian flag symbolizes all the people that died for their country.

@wixovmvoxiw2905

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit, I`m russian too and I like this flag

@megidora5248

2 жыл бұрын

Ник иероглифами Комент на английском Коментатор русский Отель - триваго

@pipitocandero5662

2 жыл бұрын

@@wixovmvoxiw2905 а в чем смысл этого флага?

@aanakk

2 жыл бұрын

@@megidora5248 вот почему вы найдëте идеальный отель по оптимальной цене! А вообще, я просто в Японии некоторое время жил, вот и кличка от друзей осталась.

i don't respect flag of my country, which made by non-binar russian immigrant from Germany. It's cringe.

God, King and People... Firstly there were never kings in Russian Empire. Secondly as a Russian I never heard such a description of colors. Here is a quote from wiki: "At the times of Alexander III of Russia the official interpretation was as follows: the white color symbolizes nobility and frankness, the blue for faithfulness, honesty, impeccability, and chastity, and the red for courage, generosity, and love. A common unofficial interpretation was: red: Great Russia, white: White Russia, blue: Little Russia."

@Max-zo6rv

2 жыл бұрын

Согласен

@Max-zo6rv

2 жыл бұрын

Meaning of 3 russias for burger lovers: Great Russia is literally normal Russia, White Russia is Belarus and Little Russia is Ukraine

@alexs81-

2 жыл бұрын

Пусто у тебя в голове, король - это царь. А насчет другого оттенка синего, я ведь помню что в начале 90х он был не таким синим

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

@@alexs81- Он был голубым.

"Bicolor" may mean two colors, but in vexillology it is ONLY used for flags that have just two separate colored fields (like Ukraine or Poland/Monaco/Indonesia), even if a threepartite flag has only two colors (like Latvia or Austria) it still stays a tricolor flag!

@Seen420

Жыл бұрын

Nice to know

Ахаха сука, челы на серьёзе обсуждают этот флаг, придуманный шизами из твиттера

извините меня, я не владею английским языком, мне показалось что вы сказали что новый протестный флаг появился 28-ого февраля 2022 года, но он был и раньше на чуть более старых протестах 1-2 года назад точно (возможно я что-то не так услышала) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ как россиянка я не то чтобы нуждаюсь в новом флаге, на мой взгляд лучше выходить на протесты с флагом той страны гражданином которой ты являешься, показывая что это твой дом и ты борешься за порядок в нем

@TransistorLSD

2 жыл бұрын

Согласен, но выходить на антивоенные протесты с официальным российским флагом - самоубийство, потому что там могут быть украинцы (^: Имею в виду протесты в Европе, конечно

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

Тебя в современном мире МЯГКО говоря за это не поймут. 2)1-2 года назад? Под каким соусом он тогда использовался?Что он выражал вообще?

1:07 so these peace people removed the color representing the people? What did they mean by this?

@cagangultekin8469

2 жыл бұрын

they say the red is associated with war and imperialism

@ZhovtoBlakytniy

2 жыл бұрын

"The people " is a backwards threat used since the bolshevik days and many Russians understand this while others still fall for it. So, it indeed has a bloody history. Red is traditionally associated with beauty, before red became the color of terror.

@kevinwarburton2938

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagangultekin8469 Stalin's Russia and blood of millions starved & shot. Red for people was a Stalinist Commie idea.

@gnas1897

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagangultekin8469 bs

@Silver_Prussian

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah dont expect ignorent people to be smart.

Interesting factoid.. "Novgorod" literally translates to "New City".

@contenteater

Жыл бұрын

And they have both a Novgorod and a “new Novgorod”

@handsdown3521

7 ай бұрын

​@@contenteater No, there is a Lower Newtown - Нижний Новгород, but there is no New Newtown.

@Черепабло

24 күн бұрын

Haha. Belarusian Novogrudok (Novogorodok) - New City Russian Novgorod - New City Russian Nijniy Novgorod - Lower New City Serbian Belgrad - White city Russian Belgorod - White city Russian Magnitogorsk - City of Magnet Montains Belarusian Soligorsk - City of Salt Mountains Belarusian Grodno(Gorodna) casually means City

As someone who has a passion for Russian history above all other nations including his own, I really liked the Novgorod reference (albeit, it's a little misleading, since the Republic of Novgorod was an entity which predated the whole flag and anthem shebang we do nowadays, but I don't think that connections by name should be underestimated); Russian intellectuals were actually somewhat obsessed for quite a while with a Muscovy-Novgorod dichotomy for a premise on how to model the state, especially during the Enlightenment, so it's extra potent for that purpose. Addressing the chances of it becoming the official state flag, the only issue I can see is that the Russian political landscape is not likely to allow it, and even if regime change does occur it's highly unlikely to be meaningful in a way palatable to the West without disintegration of the Russian state in near-entirety (a multivariate threat from both within and without that I believe to be the impetus for this conflict). If there's ever a two-word description I could give to describe Russian history, I would say "stably volatile". It's far too vast, diverse, and riddled with age-old social and geographical problems to hold together without an authoritarian structure, and consequently Russians tend to have a different concept of freedom to us in the west who often conflate it with political participation. I'd say (anecdotally) that attitudes are somewhat in line with the Slavophiles of the 19th Century, though few would self-identify as such because it's kind of a niche curio topic; a strong leaning to a freedom "from" politics instead of one to participate in it, and while the Soviet Union further illiberalised it, the substrate was already there. I'm risking generalisations and deterministic traps here, so I'd like to take a pause to remind myself and others that these tropes are not universal and definitive, but there are powerful strings of continuity which date back to the Mongol Conquest at the latest which have centralised power and formed a different social contract to the one we understand; one which the West seldom accommodates (This is core to my belief that surmising the conflict as strictly "Putin's fault" or something of that ilk is overly simplistic and convenient; it's also why I lament the wasted potential improving relations with Russia between the Soviet collapse and ~2013, something I wholeheartedly believe to be the fault of America and Europe by giving legitimacy to the suspicions that NATO was a Russophobic alliance all along. It really was a once in a lifetime chance that we squandered). I think the flag is a nice gesture in theory, but I'd be remiss to disregard the suspicion that it's similar in principal to the Eurocentric view of Gorbachev who is near-unanimously considered a hero in the West and far less so the deeper you go into the Slavic sphere. It's a hopeful assumption that a Russian national narrative can accept anything less than hegemony over a pan-Slavic (or at least east-Slavic) sphere of influence, for example. It's their Monroe doctrine after all, and while we like to pretend we've all grown up in our part of the world, they're playing the same game as us on a geopolitical level and neither side is willing to accept an introspective reality in their narratives. Our media is applying a double standard just as much as theirs is. They have propaganda, we have "unbiased journalism"; they have corruption, we have "lobbying". Side note among side notes: Their yellow and black coat of arms flag is objectively the best looking and most iconic. I've bounced around too much with this (I'll blame it on sleep deprivation. I might review it later, and then again I might not), but I hope something in this word salad made enough sense to be worth reading. I'd be really interested to hear more about this development in future.

@gooldii1

Жыл бұрын

RuSSia is a Shithole! Moralic, militair, economical rotten!

@Ugly_German_Truths

Жыл бұрын

I like the old tsarist tricolor (black gold silver) as it has the same coat of arms reference, but isn't as cluttered (important for a flag to be painted from memory) and is in no way referring to the damned "panslavic" messianic complex of the russian elites.

Did they also change US flag when it invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, Serbia, Vietnam, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Liberia, Sudan, Congo or was it not necessary?

@pianomaster696

2 жыл бұрын

Now how the fuck does this relate to the subject in this video

@gabrieldantas63

2 жыл бұрын

@@pianomaster696 People came up with the idea of this flag when Russia invaded Ukraine. Just curious if the same also happened with the USA or maybe there are some double standards in play.

@pianomaster696

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrieldantas63 I don't know, did Russia change its flag after committing a genocide all throughout Eastern Europe? Did China change its flag after committing a holocaust against Muslim Uyghurs? Did Serbia change its flag after killing thousands of innocent Bosnians? This whataboutism is stupid and probably the only thing you anti-west cucks grapple on to when someone opposes a dictatorship

@shurik_pppc

2 жыл бұрын

@@pianomaster696 People came up with the idea of this flag when Russia invaded Ukraine. Just curious if the same also happened with the USA or maybe there are some double standards in play.

I think the peace flag won't stick for too long just because it doesn't have any historical meaning (before the war it was used for a fictional government website) and i made just for the sake of it.

так, кто постирал флаг?

no, i, i need my red, I NEED MY RED COLOR

Humanity never learns from its mistakes

This is not new Russian Flag. This is USA flag.

Really don't like that the lighter blue is based on the Yeltsin-era flag after he nearly caused a civil war and allowed for mass privatisation, inequality and poverty to rise in Russia.

@Pigraider268

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was more connected to the republic instead of tsar/monarch, which Putin is in a way

@derserthefoxxo3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pigraider268 Putin has done a pretty good balancing job between appeasing monarchs and socialists through imagery, so yeah, I'd have to agree. Do wish they didn't harken back to the Yeltsin days tho as they were literally hell for millions of people, with their effects still being felt to this day.

@jackwalters5506

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course, the flag is only really used by Russian emigrants, who profited from Yeltsin and left after Putin came into power

@clucknbell4613

2 жыл бұрын

@@derserthefoxxo3873 if it was literal hell, then now it's a literal purgatory; post-USSR could become a new Mega Balkans and Yeltsin did prevent it with other post-sov leaders. Russian economy, when it worked, worked only because of Yeltsin people's reforms, and pootin was extremely lucky (unless all of Russia) to have very high oil prices. Privatisation, do you know what is it? How do you expect to live without privat property? Yes, it was ill-provided, but it was necessary to provide and there were no best people to do it, all Russian problems are from Soviet asylum, lack of professionals included, literally almost no one did know about market and functional state, they did what they could did, and these thugs who rule now, they would'nt be capable to do half of this, it's titanic work, you know.

@derserthefoxxo3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@clucknbell4613 The USSR was a global superpower with one of the worlds strongest economies despite international sanctions. Gorbachev's reforms followed by Yeltsin's shock-therapy capitalism completely destroyed the economy and led to poverty and suffering throughout the entirety of Russia. And that's not even mentioning the shelling of the Russian White House in 1993, the rigged election in 1994 to keep Yeltsin in power and the war against Chechnya. As well, people did live in Russia without private property, and the rest of the SSR's, for 70 years. However, private property does nor equal personal property, such as furniture or clothes, which I believe you are referring to.

I'm not Russian or anything but from what I know about the post-Soviet transition, the early 90s weren't a very hopeful period They were basically a giant economic and humanitarian crisis

@ZikoZiko-mn5iz

2 жыл бұрын

This was the time when Russia was robbed. Khodorkovsky, Chubais are directly related to this. Europe rose due to cheap energy resources from Russia.

I call it the Russian Reddit flag

@nou712

2 жыл бұрын

ti pidor

its a simple scene, but 4:39 gave me "Baltic road" vibes

Think the new flag is really beautiful and clean

@haven_lady675

2 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of a clean blue river running through a white snow background. I mean Russia has water and snow so it's fitting.

@gergling

2 жыл бұрын

i dont like it, its throwing out the symbolism of the people who gave their lives to protect their nation which should never be forgotten, it also looks too simple and bland without the red in my opinion

@stemperor16

2 жыл бұрын

🐖🐖🐖🐖

@TheGrace020

2 жыл бұрын

@@stemperor16 Oh look little ruSSians

@domca4617

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrace020 🤡

I'm Russian. The main meaning of the white-blue-white flag, as already mentioned in the video, is the opposition of the current government, which originates from the monarchy. Russia appeared on January 16, 1547, it is very similar to the unification of Germany. There were many principalities, but the main contenders for unification were the Grand Duchy of Moscow (in the West it is called Muscovy, but the Russians never called themselves that) and the Novgorod Republic. As you can see, Moscow was a monarchy with a grand Duke at its head, who became tsar after the creation of Russia. And Novgorod was a republic, there were princes there too, but they were subject to the ruling council (parliament), which a person without a title could enter. If Novgorod had won the war, Russia would have been a republic back in the 15th century. The white-blue-white flag is the flag of Novgorod. A little more history about the Russian flag. The white-blue-red flag was created in the 18th century as a trade flag and was installed only on merchant ships, it was not a national flag. The first national flag was a black-yellow-white flag, adopted by decree of Emperor Alexander the Liberator in 1858. In 1894, Nicholas 2 changed the flag to white-blue-red. Although the white-blue-red flag is older, but the first official flag of Russia is the black-yellow-white flag. Before 1858, only the golden cloth banners with a black double-headed eagle were used. The most insulting thing is that Emperor Alexander the Liberator was the most liberal ruler in the history of Russia, he abolished serfdom, banned the death penalty, began writing the constitution and began to create a parliament. In general, his ideas were too liberal for that time. But he was killed by terrorists and did not have time to implement all the reforms. The throne was supposed to pass to his eldest son, who was as liberal as he was, but the heir died in Italy during an illness. As a result, his middle son Alexander the Peacemaker inherited the throne. He was nicknamed the peacemaker because there was no war under his rule, but his internal policy was dictatorial. He canceled all his father's liberal reforms, executed people for dissent, repressed other peoples, planted religion and many others. And now its black-yellow-white flag is used by the Nazis, although it represents freedom and democracy.

@Danefalt

Жыл бұрын

С ЧЖБ вообще история смешная, ибо его используют нацисты-имперцы. Они хотят построить национальную империю. Это буквально как коммунистический капитализм.

@user-kw8uw6ze1j

11 ай бұрын

В Новгороде никто не мог править без титула, там была олигархия. И этот флаг не имеет никакого отношения к Великому Новгороду.

Just add a blue vertical line and you've got Finland in your hands

Thank you all kind usonian white guys in the comments for telling us russians which symbols we should use to represent anti-imperialism and why 🥺

The White Army Flag or the Russian Rebel Flag? By White Army I mean the one that fought against the Bolsheviks.

@a.bastianwiik5592

2 жыл бұрын

The white army mostly used unit flags, a version of the current Russian flag or the naval ensign that have a diagonal cross with the same colors as the freedom flag. The white army was unpopular and deeply reactionary, anti-semites and wanted to limit land-ownership back to the nobility. They lost not because the Bolshevist were competent, but because the alienated all their potential allies by trying to restore feudalism.

@vadimuha

2 жыл бұрын

Yah, back then you could choose under what flag to be repressed

@Silver_Prussian

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.bastianwiik5592 they lost becaue the bolsheviks lied to te people and decieved them and because the white army needed a bit more support from foreign powers and wasnt as unitrd as it should have been. And the red were anything but competent.

@a.bastianwiik5592

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silver_Prussian The whites had huge support in terms of equipment; the de-mobilizing armies of WW1 donated enormous amounts of military equipment . The white movement however was corrupt, so most of the equipment ended up in red hands for next to nothing. The white army was against giving any power back to the groups forcefully "russified and subjugated" under the Tsar. Imagine how popular in Ukraine, Baltics, Caucasus, Jewish Pale, Central-Asia when stated goals were "give your land back to the German-Russian nobels,start speaking Russian again".

@user-gn3xo5so6e

2 жыл бұрын

From what fucking source you bring that shit? Lenins table history book?

Belrus democtric republic: hey I've seen that before

2:36 this is not only the flag of the protesters, but also the national flag of Belarus. Just dictator Lukashenko changed the national flag to the soviet flag.

@gadik.

2 жыл бұрын

+

Now imagine what the Swiss flag would look like without the color of blood and war

@Who_110

2 жыл бұрын

Japanese flag

@xleplex7070

Жыл бұрын

@@Who_110 Then the Japanese flag would just become a French flag

@ZETAPLUSA70

Жыл бұрын

@@xleplex7070 Not just Japan, many countries will also surrender after being bloodless🤣

I know quite a lot of political context of my country and i want to warn you: this isn't a protest flag. It doesn't bear national meaning that white-red-white has for Belarus. It's hard to explain the entire history of Russian Opposition movement, so i have to put it short: Untill 2011 opposition movement in Russia split in 2 branches: SysLib (Systemic Liberals) who supported "soft reforms" and Off-system opposition: (nationalists with other small groups) who supported overthrow. Needless to say, Putin's nomenclature were much more brutal to Off-system. Alexei Navalny - the most importand figure in Russian opposition originaly came from nationalists, but as there were less and less of them alive or unimprisoned, he started to work with SysLibs more. By the 2019 Navalny is imprisoned himself and with that Off-system opposition is crushed completely. As expected, repressions turn on SysLib wing and it migrates alltogether. There are a lot of Off-system oppositionists in immigration as well, but nowhere near as much as SysLibs and they don't have political connections and voice. Consider: Same people who said "North Korea is better than revolution" in 2011-2019 now coming up with new flag for Russia, new sanctions for people(not nomenclature) and counting how much do they want to take from people who are already impoverished by Putin. I do admit that i myself associate with Off-system, but my allegiance isn't for no reason: SysLibs are to blame for brutal crush of Bolotnaya protest in 2011. This is why i think that White-Blue-White is an anti-national flag. If you want to know more, you'll have to listen hard - People who tell this story have a very quiet voice.

@user-kh5ud4hn1n

2 жыл бұрын

очень хорошо написал

Это флаг Вейшнории (Вымышленного государства в Беларуси, где проводились учения)

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

Да и не только.

"dictatorship and authoritarianism" you mean when there was plenty of food on the table. the tricolor represents the tsardom. it represents backwardsness and imperial tendencies and for many russians its symbolizes mediocrity, food shortages, constant war with chechnia, georgia, ukraine, in comparison to the red banners of the soviet union, which represented education, jobs, housing, healthcare, and food.

I don’t like the flag, not because of what it represents, but there’s just something about how it looks that I just don’t like

@Nugcon

2 жыл бұрын

I think it looks pretty good ngl

@antarescitizen

2 жыл бұрын

You know, maybe it's a matter of what we are used to. Most flags have an immediate strong visual impact due to the colours used. Examples can be the flag of France, UK, USA, Brazil and China This russian protest flag is quite...soft. Visually softer than what is more normal. This is my just thought, by the way I kinda like this simple design.

@ohajohaha

2 жыл бұрын

@@Сънливият-Пияч well, the blue is simillar to that of the state flag yeltzin-era so I guess they could only add a border of some sort

@shahedmatin5427

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Its just too "soft" and looks super boring and made without care. It also doesnt give much of an impression. Also it just threw away all of the culture and history of russia.

People looking at 3 stripes like: so inspiring, such deep and moving messages!

white-blue-white flag is actually only a transitional flag. The final version will have the blue stripe removed.

@VOL4ARA

2 жыл бұрын

Ы

@shahedmatin5427

2 жыл бұрын

So just a white flag. Wtf

@deim3

2 жыл бұрын

@@shahedmatin5427 You got it, champ.

@markkusiltanen1155

2 жыл бұрын

That's kinda funny

@user-io5lj5kx5x

2 жыл бұрын

@@deim3 never go full France xd

As a Russian, I am against this flag as a state flag.As a sign of protest, it is suitable, but not for the personification of our country. The red color symbolizes not only blood and the Soviet Union, but also courage, valor and love. This is a very beautiful and proud color, therefore the most popular in the world

@Pavelgon4ik

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think your opinion is matters

@ddiiaannaa6435

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pavelgon4ik And then whose does it matter if not the citizens of Russia?

@spomja375

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pavelgon4ik shut up,he is Literally a Russian.

@coel3572

2 жыл бұрын

@@ddiiaannaa6435 the guys who support the opposition/revolution from abroad, I guess :))

@mistermister0vich534

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pavelgon4ik neither yours

Kinda reminds me of the Russian liberation army emblem. Kinda of a bad PR

@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought too.

@kevinwarburton2938

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing bad about Patriots of Russia rejecting Stalinism.

@glebb..3416

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwarburton2938 Patriots of Russia that were burning their own villages and were literally a part of the SS? No thank you.

@k.g.b5816

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwarburton2938 *War criminals that loved to kill their own people

@BBarNavi

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwarburton2938 except for the "fighting for nazi germany" part

Nobody uses or knows about this flag in Russia, nor there are any protests with it. Source: I live in Russia (specifically Kaliningrad)

@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk

Жыл бұрын

No, you live in Czechia, specifically Královec.

@copperaxe3931

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk very fun, kid.

@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk

Жыл бұрын

@@copperaxe3931 Это только твоя ошибка что ты не голосовал на референдуме.

@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk

Жыл бұрын

@Александр Григоренко вот даже официальные новости kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmyDmLCEYrmfdLw.html

@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk

Жыл бұрын

@Александр Григоренко как раз наоборот, читать научись.

When a flag is older than the USSR but still means communism (found this on a random short so im probably wrong so I put the date the flag became the Russian merchant flag) The modern Russian flag was first used in 1721 or 1700

Напоминает полоску которую рисуют на полицейских машинах

@glist000

2 жыл бұрын

К сожалению да...

@woventundra

2 жыл бұрын

В этом есть смысл 😉

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

Это ТАК И ЕСТЬ.

@user-ew8bo4pd8p

2 ай бұрын

@@woventundra Ещё какой!

Прокладка на которую налили тестовую жидкость. А флаг который использовали в белорусских протестах это использованная прокладка.

@user-jc7yd5bv8l

2 ай бұрын

Твоя ?

I think they should use a paler shade of white.

They should remove blue stripe

Russia: can I copy your homework? Belarus: sure, make sure you change a bit so the teacher doesn't notice. Russia: *it's OUR homework!*

Я как русский вижу в первый жизни этот голубо-белый флаг. Флаг похожий на тот, который на протестах в Белоруси использовали красно-белый. Какая то либеральная чушь

@Черепабло

24 күн бұрын

Серьёзно? Коротко говоря это флаг либералов

The 1991 tricolor is also cool. ☦️

@alexey5059

2 жыл бұрын

it actually didnt exist as a flag with officially fixed white, blue and red colors. the flag with current colors was also used, and the "1991 tricolor" was just a variety of Russian tricolor. but i agree that it was a cool flag with a beautiful combination of colors, i hope he will be back :)

@swikews1316

2 жыл бұрын

Russian 1991 flag is a capitalism of death. Killing 3 Millions of russian starving to death, medicin and food running out and the constitution crisis had happen in 1993. You know this Western capitalism is really bad to bullying russians. Scums...

@user-rc1oh5kd1u

Жыл бұрын

Англосакса спросить забыли

@Foreign0817

Жыл бұрын

@@user-rc1oh5kd1u I have some Eastern European and Russian ancestry, if that counts.

6:05 We should call it the Russian Surrender flag

In Russia we have a meme making a de-sovietized, without blood, the cult of war and the admixture of imperial ambitions version of every flag in the world by just deleting everything red from them

@user-jf8pj7wb5n

Жыл бұрын

If Twitter liberals who immigrated to Turkey and Israel don't like red and associate it with blood, imperial ambitions, etc., then I suggest using the flag of Tsar Alexander 2 - a black-yellow-white flag and no red. Issue resolved.

I shall call it the Novgorod Neo

This new flag clearly shows how this people "love" their country and people... Because red line means all the blood that people of the Soviet Union shed in WW2 to protect their loved ones. So yeah, lets reject ans forsake it...

@arckimon9225

2 жыл бұрын

Какой совиет юнион? Этот флаг существовал задолго до совка и 2 мировой. Изначально это флаг торговых судов Российской империи. Трактовщик недоношеный🙈

@user-mn7vb2mu8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@arckimon9225 умница!

@coel3572

2 жыл бұрын

ну, с пословицей "всё новое - хорошо забыток старое" суть "прогрессивизма" становится предельно ясна усиленно стираем всю память о двух мировых войнах, чтоб была ещё одна

@georgeousthegorgeous

2 жыл бұрын

да пошли они нах*й, кто они вообще такие чтобы менять наш флаг. Пытаются сделать из нашей страны импотента в плане влияния.

I would think that the flag should be called the Blue Dove for 4 reasons 1. The flag is colored white as is a dove 2. The flag has a blue stripe down the middle 3. Both the flag and dove are meant to be a symbol of peace 4. You fly the flag like a bird would fly Let me know if you have a disagreements or if I have inaccuracies.

@NeptuniaMorgan

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t take long to be nicknamed the „Twitter flag“ then.

@honsuaman8743

2 жыл бұрын

“Blue dive” sounds like nonsense, I don’t know such kind of doves.

@ytspa6807

2 жыл бұрын

In Russian that would be pronounced like "Goluboy Golub' " so I think that's not such harmonious Moreover there are the offences to gays whom some impolite russians call "Golubyje" (lit. "The Blues") In sum that's the bad variant

@Chickenbruh1556

2 жыл бұрын

@@ytspa6807 I was not aware of that, sorry

@landarskyalexander5458

Жыл бұрын

And you don't want to ask the opinion of the Russians. They are already inventing flags for us. Is it okay that the current flag, the flag of the Russian Empire of Peter 1 of 1712? Do you want to destroy our history and replace it with some gay flag? Most Russians will disagree with this

Woah that God, King, People thing IS true - I heard that when I was a teenager and I told my history teacher who hadn't heard of it before. Turns out I was right!

i like the current flag of russia also and it wont be seen as a bad symbol if we dont make it that

@dawid2383

2 жыл бұрын

Putin already made it.

@NewHollowEarth

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawid2383 You can say the same to other countries like America, France & the UK with similar colors (Red, White & Blue) that have done just as bad or even worst of what Russia is doing. Putin didn't ruined the flag, lmao. The flag is older than the Russian Federation itself. There's been many countries under many dictatorships that have used their flags and didn't change them after those leaders were gone, flags can represent more than ideology most of the time.

@domca4617

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawid2383 ...

@mikhailkalinin6536

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewHollowEarth yes you can say the same about America and uk. doesnt mean that we should always compare ourselves to america and uk. you have a suggestion for a non-imperialist american flag?

@raquetdude

Жыл бұрын

@@NewHollowEarth given the complete change of society that would occur and for the first time in history ethnic minorities getting treated equally I am doubtful that the flag would stay the same. Russia is a federation yet the regions have zero power or influence, once the regime is over and they attempt to get basic federal recognition again (first time ever) they would be somewhat against it I believe.

Here is a stupid joke nobody needs. I remember when in 90s my father joked about this "new Belarus flag". He said "lard-meat-lard". How do I supposed to name this new Russian flag? "Lard-vodka-lard"! (Sorry, didn't mean to offend somebody, peace)

@ZhovtoBlakytniy

2 жыл бұрын

Lard meat lard sounds tasty 😋

@vadimuha

2 жыл бұрын

A paddy wagon

@_masssk_

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZhovtoBlakytniy it's because you are Galychanka ;)

@LalkaKK

2 жыл бұрын

Хаха! Я правда посмеялся с этого:)

Fun fact: This flag is actually waving in my own city, because the original was too old and was decolorated :)

I remember creating a flag similar to this but mine has a darker blue strip.

@artemlyubchenko3022

11 ай бұрын

So you created the flag for the Swiss canton of Zug?