What is The NEW BEST Loadout in Helldivers 2 After The Patch? (Stratagems & Primary Weapons Update)

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Since the recent helldivers 2 patch and update there has been much debate around what are the best stratagems, best eagles, best orbital strikes and best support weapons and primary weapons. I don't think there is such thing as a "META" and to quote ThiccFila, "META" stands for "Most Exciting Tactic Available". I love this! In this video I've been exploring a range of different setups for both backpack and non-backpack loadouts against both terminids and automatons and have come to a conclusion around what are, in my opinion, some of the helldivers 2 best loadout choices!
We'll be exploring the spear, the flamethrower for the helldivers 2 fire build. We'll also be looking into how assault rifles and sentry now perform. Tier lists often include the arc 12 blitzer aka the blitzer shotgun lower down than I would usually put it. Let's jump in and see if you can come to a conclusion around what is the best helldivers 2 build.
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00:45 - Terminid Loadout
01:30 - Backpack Loadout
03:50 - Stratagems
08:35 - Primary
10:26 - Automaton Loadout
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  • @PhaseShifter
    @PhaseShifter7 күн бұрын

    Worth noting, I've formed these opinions with all ship modules unlocked!

  • @TheMantisLord50
    @TheMantisLord507 күн бұрын

    Railcannon desperately needs a use time buff. As it is now, it is here to kill 1 enemy, far less than other slightly less single target options like precision strike or 500 kg, while doing similar damage. The thing needs to be able to used more consistently for me to consider using it. Such a shame too, it feels so good to use

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Oooo what a great talking point, Mantis. I think I remember you mentioning this on stream. I guess the counter-point is that it is so powerful, if it was a lower cool down it would be OP? A hard one to balance for sure!

  • @Danthepanman1

    @Danthepanman1

    7 күн бұрын

    It needs at least 150 second cd That would make heavies a joke but it needs that to compete with the others

  • @TheMantisLord50

    @TheMantisLord50

    6 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifterI get that, it would be strong, but to take up 3 and a half minutes for 1 bullet that isn’t guaranteed to kill a bile titan is a lil excessive

  • @Gooby12337

    @Gooby12337

    4 күн бұрын

    @@TheMantisLord50 I agree. If they kept the same cooldown rate and made it ALWAYS one shot a bile titan I feel like that's fair balancing.

  • @AzureIV

    @AzureIV

    2 күн бұрын

    Orbital Railcannon strike should one-shot a Bile Titan regardless of where it is hit on the creature. They should also bump up the damage and penetration to make that happen, and they should also reduce the cooldown to 2 minutes at worst.

  • @charliebullard878
    @charliebullard8784 күн бұрын

    Tip for the spear: when you are closer to a charger than you would like, due to the trajectory of the missle, time your shot to when the charger raises its head so that the missle hits its forehead instead of the top of the charger

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    4 күн бұрын

    Woah nice! You can also lie down to encourage it to hit when you're at the short range window of risk! Thanks for sharing the tip 😁

  • @cam_p_bells9506
    @cam_p_bells95067 күн бұрын

    Tried the SPEAR after we played yesterday and it was great until it crashed my game. No clue to why it’s doing it. More testing is needed.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    I'm scared to try it on stream again xD

  • @cloggedpitot1

    @cloggedpitot1

    6 күн бұрын

    Ive had crashing issues off and on for months. Rarely use the spear.

  • @ayerenzie

    @ayerenzie

    6 күн бұрын

    Devs confirmed it’s a bug crash, they advised to avoid until next hot fix.

  • @izzoArtistry

    @izzoArtistry

    6 күн бұрын

    Wtf I noticed that too, it was terrible

  • @Foxhound94

    @Foxhound94

    5 күн бұрын

    It doesn't crash for me. Only time I crash is when I join a squad that's already in battle.

  • @RyanSchomber
    @RyanSchomber7 күн бұрын

    The Breaker Incendiary is a hot pick for many players, but for those who don't know, it makes light work of swarms of shriekers. The spread on the shot makes landing at least one hit a very reliable process, and the ignition effect will do the rest of the heavy lifting. Even more effective than a high output solution like Stalwart!

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    No pun intended! I should have got some shrieker footage, you're very right, it's a joke how much it shreds those flappies!

  • @cloggedpitot1

    @cloggedpitot1

    6 күн бұрын

    In my mind its the only pick for bugs. Nothing comes close.

  • @Why-_-So-_-Serious

    @Why-_-So-_-Serious

    2 күн бұрын

    Who would of thought a whide spread shotgun that applies fire damage would be great for flying creatures 😂​@PhaseShifter

  • @evilskwerl
    @evilskwerl6 күн бұрын

    After I was forced to switch off the eruptor, I haven’t switched off my current loadout in forever. 380mm, quasar,gun drone, auto cannon sentry. Then just explosive shotty, grenade pistol and incendiary nade and I find I can pretty much solo most of the map. Although I’ve been considering trading the 380mm for walking barrage but it’s just so nice to just throw the 380 into the middle of a large hive and just walk away while it clears the nest. 😅

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    Quaso and Auto Cannon Sentry sounds really tasty actually!

  • @Bountyxhunter
    @Bountyxhunter7 күн бұрын

    That stratgem list was golden. Thanks!

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    I was gunna use the icons but thought it may be more helpful to see it in list form! So many of them that are viable now!!!

  • @user-kl8dq8eg6h
    @user-kl8dq8eg6h5 күн бұрын

    Appreciate all the info!

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    5 күн бұрын

    Glad its helpful!

  • @genericnpc08
    @genericnpc087 күн бұрын

    I'm loving the adjudicator now with the new armor passive, ammo pack and flamethrower!

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    A fine fine setup you've got there!!!

  • @CarlosDiaz-je1bg
    @CarlosDiaz-je1bg7 күн бұрын

    Breaker, Grenade Pistol, stuns. Paired with supply backpack, heavy machine gun, orbital rail cannon and 110 rocket pods.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    rocket pods are really growing on me!

  • @anthonyju6392
    @anthonyju63927 күн бұрын

    I've been using the Grenade Launcher with Blitzer Primary with RailGun, 110 Rocket Pods, Supply Backpack. This is REALLY good against bile spewers which have been my sworn enemy since day one. Blitzer is good against stalkers for the little bit of push back because going without a shield against stalkers can be risky. The only real issue are bile titans and chargers. Chargers you can stun and nail them in the butt with the grenade launcher. I believe it is 3-4 grenades to the butt and they are gone. The Bile Titans it is more about cracking the armor and finishing them off with grenades.

  • @johnthetactician
    @johnthetactician7 күн бұрын

    5:10 Strafing run has always been good at sweeping spewers; it had ap4 previously, which let it do full damsge to spewers. The playerbase just never gave it much of a chance because airstrike was overall better due to only one less charge The ap buff let it consistently take out terminid objectives like shriekers nests and lightly damage heavies, and give the extra charge.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Yeah, it wasn't worth taking before imo! Now it's GOATed!

  • @nerochromatic

    @nerochromatic

    4 күн бұрын

    I mainly used the strafing run for big hordes of the more common enemies like warriors, Hunters or brood commanders.

  • @anthonymarquez8173
    @anthonymarquez81734 күн бұрын

    How is the Jar 5 Dominator not on the list. It's an S tier weapon. The recoil issues disappear in first person, and it's stagger and damage wreck everything that the adjudicator does more ammo efficiently. Just have to be on point aiming

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    4 күн бұрын

    You know, you're not the first person to query that - I used to love the thing back at launch but have just fallen off it since. I'm not sure why, I just don't like how it feels atm!

  • @ryanjoseph4806

    @ryanjoseph4806

    2 күн бұрын

    It’s got a frustrating red dot sight and low fire rate, but it is my fav in bots for its utility and lack of dmg falloff compared to other weapons. If your a scorcher user you know how that projectile can “stick” to the armor surrounding the devastators head as opposed to the jar-5 being like firing a hotdog down a hallway. I agree, S tier.

  • @scorpion563
    @scorpion5637 күн бұрын

    didn't realize from your pov how independent I play from the team 👀 probably explains why i was taking so much bot aggro in your clips either way decent video, but don't forget how good the dominator is against both factions :>

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    You're a maverick Scorps! You get all over the place! JAR didn't quite make the cut - wanted to keep it shorter than 15 mins if possible!

  • @billiondollardan
    @billiondollardan6 күн бұрын

    I'm liking airstrike, airburst, railcannon, and grenade launcher with breaker incendiary, senator, and impact

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    Noice! Try the supply pack with GL!!

  • @big_gucci_scorpio328
    @big_gucci_scorpio3284 күн бұрын

    Im loving the spear paired with eagle strafing run with 110 rocket pods and a orbital precision strike on bug missions

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    4 күн бұрын

    I wish I'd included rocket pods in this video actually. Had some good success with them since the buff!

  • @TheMantisLord50
    @TheMantisLord507 күн бұрын

    For bugs I’ve been using napalm and has a ton. Having nice area control makes even some helldive missions easy as a solo.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Napalm is very nice but I've been venturing elsewhere!!

  • @stephanechoquette6938
    @stephanechoquette6938Күн бұрын

    The best built is the one you have fun with

  • @ObliviousNaga
    @ObliviousNaga5 күн бұрын

    I've been using the MG turret. It's cooldown makes it a great decoy/cover fire when reloading on the longer reloading weapons

  • @Fishrokk
    @Fishrokk7 күн бұрын

    Hey, Phase! Keep in mind with your flamethrower advice, I don't know if you have the ship upgrade that improves your incendiary damage - but I don't yet. I'll give it a shot, but I might not see quite the results you're seeing here.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Yo Fishrokk! You're right there. I should have thought about the ship modules. I'll add that in the pinned comments! Thanks for pointing this out!

  • @ryanjoseph4806
    @ryanjoseph48062 күн бұрын

    How many folks have had a terrible time getting the eagle strikes to land in the new forestry map? It really talked me into taking the orbital precision strike and Gatling strike instead of the airstrike and 500kg. The orbital precision is now my goto outside of orbital scatter affected missions for titans.

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin5 күн бұрын

    Some decent buffs :)

  • @johnnatandc
    @johnnatandc4 күн бұрын

    The "Get Sooomeee" never gets old

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    4 күн бұрын

    It really doesn't 🤣

  • @1x1boop28
    @1x1boop283 күн бұрын

    Even if there is not any change in game helldivers 2 I would greatly appreciate your opinion on the idea of implementing a slight increase in the threshold for ragdoll with medium armor, and a significant increase in the threshold for ragdoll with heavy armor. Additionally, when talking to some others on the discord it was suggested that extra padding could potentially decrease flinching, providing two benefits like the other armor types. It was also suggested that light armor should remain unchanged. What are your thoughts on this proposal?

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    3 күн бұрын

    Yo! I think all of the above suggestions are absolutely spot on. I've said in a previous video where I discussed content and features I'd like to see in the future that armour should play more of role in the power fantasy. Light armour does this well ... You're fast, you can get more distance using the jetpack in combination with it. The trade off is you are squishier, which is fair. The other armours don't really do this. I mentioned that heavy armour preventing flinch would be a great starting point. I hadn't considered a reduction in ragdolling an avenue to explore - I really like this idea! Thank you for sharing!

  • @1x1boop28

    @1x1boop28

    3 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter Thanks!

  • @tomwhitehead3352
    @tomwhitehead3352Күн бұрын

    My go to is the jet pack/AMR, AC or spear with Gatling barrage, 500kg and precision strike.

  • @sirtimothy92
    @sirtimothy924 күн бұрын

    Bug: Purnisher, Grenade pistol, Spear/Flamethrower (depending on teammates), Impact fire grenade Bot: Slugger/Counter sniper, Grenade pistol/Bushwhacker, Autocannon, Stun grenade

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    4 күн бұрын

    These both look really fun!

  • @gabrielmckenna5055
    @gabrielmckenna50557 күн бұрын

    Good video, but the tenderizer performs better against trash mobs and stripped charger legs than Adjudicator, and would benefit just as much from the supply pack. But yeah it’s better against the other armored bugs.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    The Chicken Tendy vs Adjudicator debate is a good one!

  • @JohnDoe_75
    @JohnDoe_75Күн бұрын

    Funny. I've been running blitzer/grenade pistol / quasar / light medic armor for a while now the only downside about the blitzer is not having the ability to target stripped charger legs.

  • @DjNaste
    @DjNaste7 күн бұрын

    Weapons: Incendiary Breaker, Senator, Stun Grenade Strats: Supply Pack, Grenade Launcher, 500kg, Orbital Precision Strike Armor: Light Gunner This is the way.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Supply pack, nade launcher! A person of culture I see !

  • @DjNaste

    @DjNaste

    7 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter there is only one culture: democracy.

  • @kruckcrusher8102
    @kruckcrusher81025 күн бұрын

    I like to use the napalm, rail cannon, Gatling barrage and spear

  • @thecaptain4512
    @thecaptain45126 күн бұрын

    Running 2 sentries with the shield placement against bots goes nuts.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    Love the relay!!!!

  • @geraltthewitcher1822

    @geraltthewitcher1822

    5 күн бұрын

    An unstoppable force of strength. Definitely on those defense missions with the auto and rocket sentry

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    5 күн бұрын

    @@geraltthewitcher1822 we need more HellDivers with this attitude. Off the cuff loadouts that actually work are where the fun is at!

  • @Tootis21
    @Tootis217 күн бұрын

    Throwing knives are worth taking on certain bug loadouts right now. Due to (probably) a bug, they can 4 shot chargers in the legs, making them almost harmless once you learn how the knives aim. I've been taking those for my dedicated charger clearing, then something like auto cannon so I can smite bile spitters, or supply pack and one of the machine guns if I wanna spam bullets. Just bring some titan killers (500kg, orbital rail, precision strike, etc, etc). The knives aren't as good as the flamer thrower for dedicated charger clearing, but they let you save a slot for more air support, or different strats.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    I did wonder if the 4 shot knife tech was staying! You have raised somethings that I did try out, especially the MG but I wanted to try keep it under 15 mins long! I love the Stalwart!! You raise a good point re: the extra slot too! That is nice!

  • @Tootis21

    @Tootis21

    7 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter The knife tech is pretty goofy, but I hope it never goes away because its pretty fun lol

  • @MarioBryant-ur8gg
    @MarioBryant-ur8gg4 күн бұрын

    My loadout for the bugs are the machinegun auto cannon century emancipator mech and orbital railcannon for evac.

  • @joshcutright37
    @joshcutright376 күн бұрын

    It shouldn't take 30 seconds to kill 1 behemoth charger with the cannon tho. correction it takes longer cause of the wind up.

  • @harrycornell7651
    @harrycornell76512 күн бұрын

    Thoughts on guard rover for bugs? Is it not worth brining anymore?

  • @FLUFFYCAT_PNW

    @FLUFFYCAT_PNW

    Сағат бұрын

    In my experience, the laser one is good because it points out where enemies are, but they also can be bad if you're trying to not engage with every patrol. In general I think the current meta just views the guard dog as a crutch and under-powered for taking up a strategem slot. Def useful before like level 15-20 but I stopped using mine when I started getting heavy orbital/eagle/sentry strategems unlocked.,

  • @truec0re193
    @truec0re1937 күн бұрын

    The *NEW BEST BUILD* is play whateva the fuck ya want and just have fun.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Exactly! "Meta" - most entertaining tactics available - ThiccFila (2024)

  • @stafdhaese
    @stafdhaese5 күн бұрын

    The best build is what you yourself want it to be i try to use as much dif stuff as i can but i always use the new carbine and autocannon combo or the stallwart/machingun with the explode crossbow the rest is what i want

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    5 күн бұрын

    Mixing it up is definitely where the real fun lies in this game! Interesting setups you've named there!

  • @stafdhaese

    @stafdhaese

    5 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter thnx the magic of the new carbine lies with its high rate of fire its a little slower than the stallwart just pair it with a eat and a supply pack and your good to go my go to for med armor enemies is the machinegun turret with its reduced respawn time its become a staple to clear chaff

  • @Bladeos
    @Bladeos6 күн бұрын

    spear was always amazing for me now its awesome but the problem is it crashes the game now

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    5 күн бұрын

    Agreed - just been playing and was fine but maybe I got lucky!

  • @bencesolymar6494
    @bencesolymar64945 күн бұрын

    Spear is great the lockon and range are much better but it crashes the game for some reason, not a risk im willing to take until they fix it. I admit they buffed the adjudicator pretty well but against bots i would still choose the sickle everytime.

  • @onthespiral4054
    @onthespiral40547 күн бұрын

    If I ever see some dummy bringing cluster to bots or air strike to bugs we need to have a talk.

  • @danm4184
    @danm41845 күн бұрын

    The spear is bugged at the moment. Its crashing games.

  • @JoeSaidReptiles
    @JoeSaidReptiles4 күн бұрын

    Nobody has mentioned this but they nerfed the pummeler in a very meaningful way. It used to stagger hulks and devastators but it doesn't anymore....so it went from being my go to for bots to trash tier. They JUST RELEASED IT! AH I swear if anything gets nerfed in the viper commandos 1 month after release, I will simply quit the game, I am tired of you removing the fun from weapons that are FUN.

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    3 күн бұрын

    Yo! Yeah, this is very true and very saddening. Pummeller was great prepatch. you can also stun lock chargers the same way you describe here too... It provided great utility!

  • @JoeSaidReptiles

    @JoeSaidReptiles

    2 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter I took the knife to a level 3 to test it. It did exactly zero damage against a chicken walker and failed to destroy a basic bot after two hits. Why exactly would anyone replace their useful grenades with the knife? If the automatons behaved like the Borg, they would see helldivers with knives, consider them not a threat, and ignore them.

  • @qhai88
    @qhai886 күн бұрын

    The spear is fine but my game keep on crashing. Especially during aiming mode and running while holding spear.

  • @Marcin-qy6cn
    @Marcin-qy6cn7 күн бұрын

    Tenderizer > Adjudicator

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    For bots I agree. Not so for bugz!

  • @johnthetactician

    @johnthetactician

    7 күн бұрын

    Tenderizer optimizes for chaff clear Adjudicator for flexibility

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    @@johnthetactician The man himself has spoken!!!

  • @jasonfry2096
    @jasonfry20966 күн бұрын

    No Eruptor love on bots?

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    I just can't get into it :( I loved it before the nerf, I just don't enjoy it anymore! That isn't to say it's not a great weapon for those who do enjoy!

  • @jasonfry2096

    @jasonfry2096

    6 күн бұрын

    @@PhaseShifter would love them to buff the projectile damage to 300, that would open up one shots to commanders and spewers heads again. Then it would be perfect

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    @@jasonfry2096 I agree - it defo needs a nudge in the buff direction!!! Thanks for commenting :)

  • @Danthepanman1
    @Danthepanman17 күн бұрын

    No knight buff😢

  • @Danthepanman1

    @Danthepanman1

    7 күн бұрын

    Also I love how you split backpack and no backpack loadouts

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    DANTHEPANMAN! Cool to see you in the comments :) I think you raise a good point re: buffing SMGs slightly perhaps?

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    @@Danthepanman1 I'm glad you liked that - I wasn't sure if it made sense structurally but that is how my brain works when I make loadouts!

  • @HeresGrey
    @HeresGrey6 күн бұрын

    I'm playing a different game.... The assault rifles are hot garbage the magazines are too small... basically conventional weaponry sucks in this game that's my opinion arc blitzer plasma punisher are my go too primaries

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    6 күн бұрын

    I hear ya, I felt the same but the adjudicator and tendy do grow on you if you stick with them. That being said, I honestly think blitzer is one of the best primaries in the game.

  • @jiopa

    @jiopa

    6 күн бұрын

    Yeah tendy and adjudicator are rly good right now.

  • @piotrrutkowski1699
    @piotrrutkowski16997 күн бұрын

    So what is the best build?! I can’t see clear summary table on the end… don’t talk 15min, just quickly answer question from the title!

  • @PhaseShifter

    @PhaseShifter

    7 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback! I guess the point is that there isn't really a "META" or "1 Build To Rule Them All". That being said, I understand why you would want something more concrete at the end given the title. I'm still experimenting with video packaging and the format. I will take this on-board. Thanks for the comment!

  • @savoirfaire8979

    @savoirfaire8979

    5 күн бұрын

    @pio - Welcome to KZread talking heads on HellDivers topics. None of them have short, straight answers. 😂

  • @Jamarkus_Delvonte
    @Jamarkus_Delvonte5 күн бұрын

    I wish i can get a refund with this stupid buggy crashing trash. Half the time I'm stuck on the loading screen. It's a miracle if i can actually get a game going.

  • @FosterWalsh

    @FosterWalsh

    3 күн бұрын

    you dont meet minimum specs then it sounds like. and it you do why come to this video to complain about it?

  • @Jamarkus_Delvonte

    @Jamarkus_Delvonte

    3 күн бұрын

    @@FosterWalsh maybe I should get a refund on my PlayStation 5 that can't even handle this trash of crashing game. The game is garbage and it barely runs on any settings.

  • @scottjordan6483

    @scottjordan6483

    17 минут бұрын

    I run PS5 and have no issues with crashing. In fact, AH admits that most their performance issues and crashing is happening on PC, even with good hardware. PS5 handles the game well.

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