I hope this video was informative. If you have a question for my Q&A, please feel free to ask! Just use this: 🧐 in your comment so that I can find it. Thank you for watching!

@sharoncole8249

2 жыл бұрын

💖👑👑💖🎬📽🎥👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

💕💕💕

@laurasorensen5827

2 жыл бұрын

I think your right on the nose with this info😍

@maggiemae987

9 ай бұрын

I hope you see this🤞I have SO many of your tutorials and have learnt more than I could EVER imagine. I had no idea about the different types of leather & how it’s layered. OH, I seen a pair of LSV (I think that’s the order. I don’t know high end yet) earrings. But going by what you said they were SOOO fake! She had them priced for over $400!! Not what I wanted to ask you about🤣. I received a canvas & leather D&B zip around wallet. When I unzipped it the smell of mold is unexplainable! I have an autoimmune disease, MS so I really need to KILL it. Since it is mostly canvas can I give it a vinegar bath? I have a professional mask available to me. PLEASE HELP

@maggiemae987

9 ай бұрын

One more thing, since I sell on a site and a lady is starting out I recommend her to watch your tutorials even if she’s not going into high end bags. You KNOW your stuff!

I stopped buying “ luxury” bags just for this reason . The quality has gone way down, while the prices keep going up. I buy the vintage Coach or full grain leather bags .

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Vintage Coach is excellent 👌👌👌

@daughterofsekhmet81

Жыл бұрын

Same. I used to have a whole list of luxury bags I was saving up for but with all these quality issues now... I figure I can either pay $3k+ for another luxury bag that might fall apart or have flaws out of the box, or I can get 10 equally nice(or nicer) department store bags for the same amount. A couple weeks ago I bought a bucket bag from Portland Leather just for an everyday knock-around bag, and it's absolutely amazing. Total vintage Coach quality.

"Being an informed consumer" - yes! 100%! Frankly, Chanel could charge £5,000 for a synthetic leather bag, if they wanted to, as long as they were fully honest with the consumer about what has gone into it. This was another fascinating video, thank you! I do enjoy your level of 'leather nerdiness' - such an interesting area, and your passion about it is second to none,.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I love this-- what you said is so true. Chanel HAS sold PVC bags before (as has Hermes and LV). As long as they were upfront, people bought. Thank you so much for watching and for your input!

Really awesome video!! I loved the idea of using different belts to depict the quality and potential makeup of the Chanel 22. I hate to say it, but I think the bonded is most similar to what we’ve seen from the damage on the 22. As always- so informative and really well planned- great work!!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

😁 thank you, Caleb! I was very proud of myself for the belt idea 😂

It’s clearly bonded leather. And this is an excellent piece of work. Good job! I hope people still buying the Chanel 22 go into it with eyes wide open. Bag is no different than the quality you get from a Target bag.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching!

Fascinating! I love the comparison photos and the information about the 'creation' of the different leathers. I hope we get to see you on Dacob's panel on Saturday, it would be cauldron of knowledge that would help to answer so many questions. Again, thank you, hun this is much appreciated! 😊🧡😊🤩

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! 💕💕

When I watched the live stream on Super Dacobs channel and he showed the picture, I immediately commented that it was bonded leather, because I have a bonded leather computer chair which has the exact same look of damage. Of course this is just a personal opinion, but if only you could see the chair. Its an exact match

I just found this video as I was looking for information on the Chanel 22 bag. Thank you!

I'm obsessed with these kinds of videos. Please continue to make them!!! Would love one on coach bags and how they produce their newer bags vs vintage. The 22 absolutely looks like bonded leather, thankfully i have only bought bags from Bvlgari and ysl brand new. All my other bags were contemporary or preloved lux designer.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I am planning to make a vintage vs new coach video! 😊

This was such an incredible eye opener! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Thank you for such an informative content❤

I really enjoy these videos! I see a difference in the types of leather, bonding, painting, and tinting.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I really appreciate these types of informative videos. Keep them coming!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Wow, what a great video. As I am watching this I am pausing to run and examine my various bags. Eye opening.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching!

Your video was thoughtful, informative, and provided an in-depth analysis for those who may not know much about leathers. After viewing your video, I too agree with your assessment. Thank you for creating this content, it is truly a massive contribution to the luxury community!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so, so much!

When i started buying luxury, i always thought that quality would not be in question. You’re spending a small fortune for these work of arts and they should be made from the finest materials. So far, i have been fairly satisfied with gucci and balenciaga. Been wanting to get something from chanel, but with their absurd prices and lower quality obv its a no go. Doubt that chanel even cares or want my money anyways.

@NikolaTheodore

2 жыл бұрын

i love gucci. people hate on it so much and call it the fast fashion of luxury houses but in my experience my gucci shoes, bags and ready to wear are pristine after years of everyday/regular use. their leather is great. same goes for LV SLGs. hermes i don't even need to mention - great quality. how many chanel owners can say the same?

@goldieslacks

2 жыл бұрын

I have high end bags and also one vegan leather bag that I paid 40 dollars for and the vegan leather bag is holding up just as good. It’s not always about the brand.

@asirf.3634

2 жыл бұрын

@@NikolaTheodore same, i have a couple of gucci shoes and i put them through hell and they still look good

@asirf.3634

2 жыл бұрын

@@goldieslacks so far ive had bad experience with faux leather, cause i am rough with my items 😭 they’d break after a year of usage… but its true, the brand doesn’t matter. But vegan leather ive never tried yet, what brand uses vegan leather?

@goldieslacks

2 жыл бұрын

@@asirf.3634 I have to look at the bag. I got it at tjmaxx last year.

Wow! Incredibly informative. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. Keep up the amazing content!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, Ana!

Very informativ, i have learned so much

So interesting- brilliant vid!

Your content is very informative. Thank you for sharing.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching 💕💕

Another very interesting and informative video! Thank you!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I don’t own any Chanel bags but found this fascinating. Wonderful and easy to understand coverage!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

thank you so much for watching!

Very informative. I appreciate your research and direct delivery!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I wish I had known this information before buying our furniture! My husband and I purchased a “durablend” “leather” set from Ashley’s furniture. It was great for the first few years, and I have no complaints about the cushioning. After awhile though, the coating on the material started to peel away. This was not just little bits here and there-it became SHEETS coming off! We had paid maybe $2500 for the set. We later purchased another set from them (our current set) that is “full grain leather”. We paid twice as much, but I anticipate it lasting at least 5x longer. We’ve had this set now for nearly 2 years, and there’s been hardly any signs of wear. The difference is night and day. When companies are HONEST about the leathers they’re selling, then it’s easier to compare pieces and make a choice to pay more. BUT… Chanel is just phoning it in at this point, and their quality of leathers has clearly gone down the tubes. Not to mention the construction quality. What a disgrace to a once prestigious brand.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I’m so sorry to hear about that first furniture set. I’m glad you’re happy with your current one, and I agree that it should last for many, many years. Just like you said, I’m not trying to tell people what to do-I just want to try to help make informed decisions. It would certainly help if some brands (ahem… Chanel) were more transparent.

Hey! Thanks for the informative video!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

You are so informative. Your presentation is very interesting and thorough. I now have a bit of knowledge about leather thanks to you and now I have a basic idea as to what exactly I should be looking at when I go to buy a leather bag.

@classicswithaquirk

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching!

As someone who has had many Chanel reissues (12-15) in various metallics and has spent the last 15 years so fixing them, I can say they are coated calf, almost like a sheet of metallic film is hot embossed over the whole hide. Some wear better than others but invariably they all wear on the corners and the edges by the grommets. Some peel terribly (the 2008 tuxedo reissue). I feel the leather they use is all good quality it is just the various coatings they use that cannot stand up to real life. I use Angelus leather paints in all their metallics to fix them, acetone to remove bits that need to be prepared properly and finally super metallic nail varnishes for the final coating to match the rest of the bag. My work is highly variable but I am not spending £7000 or £8000 on a new bag. These bags cost me around £1500 several years ago. Also I am hard on my bags I, use them not baby them. My husband thinks I am mad!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

If that's how you enjoy your bags, power to you!!

I have learned so much. Thank you

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Found you on Dacobs channel! Love how knowledgeable you are I love the piano I wish Romina could have joined I love her and Jessie!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, Jason!

This was so informative and thank you for pointing out the differences in the leather! My eyes are seeing that Chanel is using Bonded Leather these days and because they Can .

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching 🙏❤️

Thank you for the excellent information.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Am here from Dacob’s Chanel 22 drama. This makes me thankful that I don’t own any of Chanel’s leather bags although I’m a die hard Chanel fragrance lover. However, I do own Michael Kors bag that I’ve had for 8 years for way cheaper that is still in mint condition. It came with a warranty when I first purchased it. Thank you for this.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching 🙏

😳 omg! Thank you so much so informative. That is why I love vintage bags they are just better made !

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

💯💕💕

Thanks, darling. Very informative video. ❤️

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

EXCELENT VIDIEO! 🎉

Fantastic video!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

WOW! GREAT VIDEO! I have recently purchased a Chanel 22 Backpack and haven’t unboxed it yet. I plan on making an unboxing video but after watching your VERY informative and detailed video on the review and your opinion on the quality issues of this bag I might just be returning it

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I hope whatever you decide to do, you’re happy with your choice ❤️

I love your glasses. You have been informative!!! I really believe you for who you are! Thank you for your time!!!! Don't question yourself. Chanel should be ashamed of themselves.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Thank you this was informative

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

Great video!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

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New viewer. Excellent video and information! It will be fun to know what the 22 is really made of!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

(And I’d love to find out for sure!)

Great video!!! Super informative!! It really makes one wonder what is going on with Chanel's design team!!! ☺☺☺☺☺☺

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, KL!!

Great great great video!!!!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Thank you for all your hard work! I really appreciate your educational videos like that :) Oh, and by the way, there is a channel called "Gentleman's Gazette" , where they have luxury belts (Hermes, LV etc) cut open to compare the quality of leathers. It is very informative!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And ooh, I'll check them out!

GREAT CONTENT

@classicswithaquirk

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

I am not a huge Channel fan, they are for the most part really pretty, but also very expensive. I have had a few but sold them, they never really lived up to my expectations. My budget on bags is I never spend more than $2000 for a bag, be it used or new. The bags I bought were vintage and unusual and I felt out of date. I did buy a vintage Marc Jacobs bag for $285. A used vintage piece made out of quilted lambskin and gold plated hardware. No CC. It is a beautiful bag and very high quality. The difference in price is astonishing. I can't reasonably spend thousands more for the name. You have done a great job researching the content it is very interesting and only verifies my feelings on the low quality of many over priced luxury and contemporary items. A lot of name brands don't live up to the name anymore. I bet you are glad you were smart enough to buy the high quality pieces you own.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and sharing your own experiences. Vintage bags can be true beauties!

Yes definitely see that the bonded leather belt damage is most like the damage to the 22. Very thorough and very well explained. The thrifted belts were a very clever way to show the difference in leather types and potential damage. Thanks

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Love your factual intelligent balanced humble presentation of facts Well done

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Carol 🙏❤️

It was nice seeing a comparison of these different leather types and I can see the difference. Thanks for doing this video 🧐 I've got two questions I was wondering if you could please answer 1. will you continue to buy new Chanel leather goods and if so what type of items and leathers? 2. In your opinion, which luxury brand has the best leather quality? (feel, durability, etc...)

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I’ll answer your questions in the Q&A! 😊

@kateaye3506

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, ellina, for asking these questions. I am about to pull the trigger on a designer bag, and as quality is so lacking these days, I am keen to know where to best spend my hard earned $$.

@elinalall3475

2 жыл бұрын

@@classicswithaquirk Great! thanks so much : )

@elinalall3475

2 жыл бұрын

@@kateaye3506 It's scary to think that you hear about these quality issues so often that at least having some info will help make an informed decision especially over the long term. Looking forward to see what classics witha quirk says.

Fabulous!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️🙏

Very interesting thank you

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

This is useful video. I hurry to take a look at my Chanel22 bag now. It's incredible thing of Chanel quality right now. The pricing is getting high, but the quality is getting down like many people said. Hope mine will not crack away like another one has. Hopefully Chanel will develop their quality as same as a past.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. I'm really hoping Chanel steps up the game...

Great video! I’ve learned so much! Please share more knowledge as you learn and learn more! It’s sad that Chanel would potentially use bonded leather or any poor quality leather and charge way above reasonable pricing is ridiculous! I understand a lot of the price we pay is for the brand, but I also expect that my piece will last throughout the years to pass it on. I would prefer to buy vintage Chanel than current. I wish Chanel would keep their quality and integrity of their construction like the old days. If they want to limit who can buy their pieces then reducing their production and focus on quality and construction would definitely do it.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

Excellent job on this video! I wish more people would take the time to be educated consumers. No judgment about it as I myself have jumped on things without proper research but as costs continue to skyrocket and the average consumer needs to be a bit more discerning with their discretionary income, this is such helpful information. Any remote desire I ever had for a 22 is gone with the wind. I'm now actually wondering what the 19 is composed of? Also, I know there are other brands out there that are more deserving of my attention. I'd enjoy more videos regarding quality with other luxury brands.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching. I do have all sorts of other videos planned!

Thanks so much for sharing. I now understand why my woc is showing like peeled off leather with different colour in the corners😞

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

😞😞😞

🤔Can I ask what you recommend to use on lambskin? Your black bag is super shiny! I use Collonil natural leather cream on my medium classic lambskin flap, but it's never as shiny as this :(

@LiliS319

2 жыл бұрын

It becomes smoother and therefore more reflective with wear, that's (at least a major part of) what gives the more mature bags that luxe shine.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I can definitely answer this in the Q&A, thank you!

Once again, a highly informative video, Madame la Maroquinerie (this should be your official title 😉). Thank you for sharing your expertise. I’m curious to hear your opinion about leather from other luxury houses. Do you have any particular favourite leathers from other houses? I unfortunately don’t know Hermès well enough but I’ve always found Dior and Fendi to be very consistent with their high quality leathers - especially lambskin (my personal favourite). Thanks xx

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I've got several people asking me about leathers of other luxury houses, so maybe I'll try to make a video talking about that 😊

🧐🧐🧐 I know you‘re focussing mostly on Chanel but I‘d like to hear your thoughts regarding Polene Paris bags since you said full grained leather is expensive yet their bags are at such an affordable price point and are made of full grained leather.

@welcherg

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of this probably comes down to the fact that while full grain leather is definitely the most expensive type of leather material, it’s not massively expensive in its own right. I wouldn’t be surprised if even a vintage Chanel bag that sold for thousands only has a few hundred dollars worth of leather in it. Even for companies like Hermès that use the highest quality you can get, the leathers they use can usually be bought on the open market directly from the tanneries for a fraction of the price of any piece from Hermès, with the only major difference seemingly being that the tanneries do have contracts with Hermès so they get exclusive access to only the crème de la crème of the finished hides. When it comes to Polene, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a couple of factors involved that mostly aren’t about the material, but more so about the lower profit margin, lower labor costs, and likely significantly lower costs for marketing and retail. Having to maintain and staff lots of physical retail spaces like a lot of luxury brands do is certainly not a cheap thing, and Polene meanwhile does most of their selling online (please correct me if I’m wrong on this though).

@prepandfab6664

2 жыл бұрын

@@welcherg yes you are definitely into something with this. I’ve been following some leather tanneries in Italy that I plan to visit just so I can learn more and definitely their prices for full grained leather/ m2 are quite low so it just didn’t make sense to me. Though it’s a well known fact that Chanel has full control of it’s leather supply from tanneries and hence as you said the best quality is assured. I have also purchased 3 pieces from Polene and find the leather to be superb it was a shock how they are able to offer their pieces at that price point though as you mentioned they don’t pay a lot for marketing as they mainly depend on word of mouth and micro-influencers for that as well as having only 1 store in the world that‘s in Paris. They pride themselves on being able to cut off the middleman. Something else I noted after watching her other leather talk videos is that the grain of the textured full grained leather is reminiscent of YSL. It’s not quite like the caviar of Chanel such that it’s raised but it was a great discovery to make.

@NikolaTheodore

2 жыл бұрын

it's all about margins. the luxury houses' margins are astronomical. no leather, no matter how high quality, is ultimately so expensive to justify $5-$10k or even a $2k price tag. we're not paying for the leather.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

These are all excellent point! I’ve looked a bit into Polene (and a friend of mine, Traingirl Meghan, has done an unsponsored review of their bags). There’s a lot that goes into lower prices!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the question! I can certainly address it 😊

Never knew about bonded leather until now.

The pink bag is painted for sure, you can even see that the threads are partially white. It means that it was sewn before the paint was applied. Sure the paint soaks into threads but not as well and it shows

Wow l learned a lot. And l will be more mindful going forward. Thank you information was excellent. Well l guess it’s all up to consumers, it they start calling businesses on charging for what is not delivered.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your watching 🙏❤️

Thank you for the info very informative. Gowd hope our Chanel bags are Genuine Leather .🤔

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching 🙏

Very informative, thank you! Im not into full on leather bags, I buy LV canvas on purpose, the leather trimmings we enough leather parts for me. In a way I'm glad bec they were cheaper and importantly, lighter for me. I shivered just at the thought of spending over 5k on these poor quality leather.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for watching!

🧐 I posted a paraphrased version of this on your last video, in a much longer comment: I saw an article last month, out of Vogue HK by Ingrid Chua, where she breaks down the types of leathers produced by most tanneries used by luxury houses, and from those descriptions, I had thought that maybe Dacob's 22 was made from Split leather. Basically, it's the lowest grade of leather you can get. It can "split" and show the white bottom of the skin, but it is still one step up from bonded leather. What is your take on this? I agree with your conclusions from these pictures, as well.

@NatashaEstrada

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think it's split because a synthetic finish wouldn't be a good use of a full-grain leather it also would give it that soft feel. Lambskin would be the best choice for a full-grain leather for that style of bag but the problem is the side of the bag is too big to cut in one piece from lambskin. So a cowhide or sheepskin split might be an option. Though it looks like Dacobs was cut too close to the belly on one side. I've sewn a lot with leather and buying hides for a project is a strugglebus.

@antoa5825

2 жыл бұрын

@@NatashaEstrada Really interesting!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the question! I'll add it in ☺️

I found the white layer pop out from out from the stitch hole of my wallet. It was bought on this month, may be it’s the third dyed method that you have explain…

This is so interesting I mentioned in your other videos about my medium beige Claire classic flap caviar - could that be painted? I feel like it is !!!! Mine is from around 2015

@classicswithaquirk

Жыл бұрын

I've had some things going on, so I'm just getting to comments now, but I did see yours! If you bought your bag new from boutique, I don't know if it would have been painted at that time. But you're welcome to share pictures with me in IG!

@maryrobby7134

Жыл бұрын

@@classicswithaquirk ok sure !!!! I have never really used this bag and have kept it pristine with proper storage as a background and i got it from the boutique ! I will try to take pictures and also on the back i see some “variation “ of the caviar that leads me to believe it is some sort of layer on top of the leather. I have dental loupes 🤣 but let me see if i can get a magnification with the phone app and i will send to you!!! I am really loving your videos and insight my dear and thank you for all your information and knowledge!

🕵️‍♀️🔍Wow! So informative! When I opened my new Chanel mini a few months ago the smell was so strong like paint Lacquer and melted plastic. I genuinely would have thought my new lambskin mini was fake if I didn’t order through my boutique. I’ve never experienced this with Chanel or other brands. The smell eventually dissipated. I love the smell of leather and this was not a leather scent at all. Is this common or are more people noticing an awful smell when opening their new Chanel bags. 💕

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I’m sorry to hear about the smell of your bag, and I’m glad it dissipated. I have seen people discuss the smell of chanel bags changing though…

@katemiller7874

2 жыл бұрын

That smell you describe is like a Chinese Knock off I bought one year. Awful smell

@lyssahostettler4608

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely noticed an unpleasant smell in all three of my purchases this month; however, I think it’s coming from the boxes and not the bags. After a few minutes of airing out the bags, they had that classic Chanel smell.

Thank you for these videos! 🧐Can you talk about both different types of Chanel lambskin as well as lambskin across brands? For example, I see a big difference between the lambskin of my Chanel bag from 2006 (super soft and supple) and my Chanel lambskin bag from 2017 (stiffer, not as supple or buttery). I also have Saint Laurent and Dior lambskin bags that are softer and more buttery than the newer Chanel bag, but not as supple as the 2006 Chanel. Does this indicate a decline in Chanel, or is it just bag-by-bag variations? Thank you! I will have my loupe ready for your next video!

@prepandfab6664

2 жыл бұрын

I also got a Chanel Lambskin last year and it was stiffer compared to older generations

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the question ☺️ I'll answer it in the q&a!

Great job. I think you are spot on ❤️

This was a very informative video. The first time I saw the gouge in the Super Dacob's video, I thought to myself - this looks like bonded leather. Your belt compare/contrast magnification was a smart idea to show fellow consumers. I wonder from a business standpoint, would it make sense to use full grain leather for the construction of the 22 because they would not want to spend on the dyeing/higher quality leather for a bag that may not reach commercial success. So until the sales figures support keeping the bag -use inferior leather (of course if this were verified that it is in fact say bonded leather). What do you think? 🧐

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, and a very interesting question! I'll add it to my q&a ☺️

I came for Chanel, I'm staying for the knowledge.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

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What do I think about the lady Dior leather and craftsmanship

I'm drooling over that vintage coach you just pulled out. Why do I have a happier reaction to the VC compared to the Chanel.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅 hey, it's a beautiful bag! And from the original coach factory in new York!

You are fabulous! I want a Gucci Diana bag , your thoughts on the leather? I would love for you to go in deep on other luxury brands. Chanel is a waste of time and money these days. I’m happy with my classic double flaps, but want to close the door on Chanel.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have so many video ideas for other luxury brands too. I admit I don't have a ton of experience with Gucci leather, though I do think the Diana is a very cute bag. I'm happy to do more research into it though 😊

🧐 My yellow 22 Chanel bag had the exact same problem as mentioned by Dacob. I can send you close up it's really the same issue but not zt the same spot .... 😔

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

You can send me pictures on insta if you'd like, and I could address it in the q&a!

@drazictoys8923

2 жыл бұрын

@@classicswithaquirk yes I sent you a message via Instagram 😙😙😙

Oh yes, the difference is striking until you get to the final comparison! I don't have the eye you have, but the pores vs no pores was noticeable.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was really interesting to see everything actually side by side!

🧐 This was so fascinating. It was hard for my uneducated eye to tell the difference between the damaged belts and the underlying fibers. But I tried to apply your video to my Brahmin bag, where I had leather worker make more holes in the strap so I could adjust it to be shorter. And I see all white. I still don't know what is on top of Brahmin bags. Some kind of printed film or something (it really is like a picture/print)? They advertise as 'genuine leather', which as I understand from what you're saying, cannot be said of bonded leather. But the bag looks like the edges are painted and body has a layer of film or something over it. In the strap at least, where the hole was made, everything below the surface is totally white. Do you know what kind of thing Brahmin puts over their leather? Or even more generally, what thing is put on stuff to make it shiny and croc-embossed? Thanks.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I actually have been talking to someone who used to work for Brahmin. I'll add this to my Q&A!

In the leathercraft world we call that white material Bag Stiffener.

Do you know what the quality control process is like for Chanel (or other luxury brands)? I wonder if these issues came up during development, photo issues, etc…?

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been trying to look into it. I really wonder how much time was spent on the R&D of this bag.

I have a few mock croc bags, and they look obviously painted to me compared to the full grain leather bags, these are higher end bags, but I know that the mock croc won't be the same quality as the full grain, but I love croc print and will not buy real exotics, so I'd be very interested in a video on mock croc bags.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I can add it to my list 😁

🧐I’m interested to know more about goatskin leather. What the difference between goatskin and lamb skin leather. What do you think about the black color Chanel 19 bag have been made with these two type leather ?

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your question! I'll answer it in the q&a ☺️

Do you think the 22 could have the facing you spoke about and the too thin layer is pulling off the facing?

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible 🤔 but the color peeling off like that looks like a paint leather, not a leather layer. And in either case, that's a very bad look 🤔🤔🤔

Yeah it definitely looks like bonded leather to me. Honestly I’m not surprised at all that Chanel is doing this. Sadly I think due to the construction of the 22 bag, it’s going to wear poorly regardless of what material it’s made of. It could be that they intentionally chose bonded leather with the thicker backing (is it possible that bonded is more flexible?) to give it the extra thickness to keep the shape of a large hobo. It is, however, disingenuous if they are marketing it as a genuine leather piece (I guess that’s assumed, right?) The question is, does Chanel need to explicitly state that or not?

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I do think that the design of the 22 has some issues for sure. The lack of grommets around the chain for for instance… just seems like a strange choice.

How do you feel about Coach’s Glovetanned Leather? Smooth Glovetanned, Pebbled Glovetanned, Original Glovetanned, Original Natural Leather & Sport Calf leather.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

This will be a whole video, hopefully soon 😊

I'd loooove for you to do a video on Dior - their leather bags still look like good quality to me, but I'd be very interested to know if that is the case? Also eveyone says that Bottega bags are just insane quality leather - like the best they've ever bought and now I want you to look at Bottega too!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Several others have also asked about these brands! I'm looking forward to making more videos as I can 😊

This is the reason I just bought an entrupy certified 2012 jumbo Classic flap. The quality is heavier and far more superior thin the ones I have held in store in the past year. YIKES! I can't believe they are literally cutting corners, bonded ones that is.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Older bags can be some real gems. I hope you're enjoying your bag!

Oh gosh, I'm guilty of charge and I'm so kicking myself for it now! I'm fairly knew to the Chanel bandwagon of buyers. First time Chanel buyer of New Year's of 2021 bought my first Chanel flap. Then, I went all out and bought 9 additional Chanel bags of variation styles just this year alone of 2022. Thinking I must buy before price increase to collect as many as I can so that I can pass it down to my girls. Little did I do my research thinking Chanel is of high quality and real genuine leather. But after stumbling across your videos, I'm so regretting it now!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry you're regretting it! It sounds like you've gotten a beautiful collection. If it helps, the classic flaps do feel like they're still well made. But I understand feeling the way you do now 😞 I hope you're still able to enjoy what you can.

@lesly7831

2 жыл бұрын

@@classicswithaquirk thank you. Sorry, by all means don't get me wrong Chanel are classic beautiful bags. I don't regret collecting all the beautiful collections to pass down to my girls. What I regret is I should have taken my time to slowly add my collection over time instead of trying to collect all the bags from just the 2022 collection. As you have mentioned in your videos, over the past few yrs the quality of Chanel just hasn't been there.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I understand! I hope you (and your girls) enjoy ❤️❤️❤️

You can totally see that the pink reissue is painted. It has a plastic appearance vs a sheen when a bag is dyed.

I really like the deep dive, I didn't know that about bonded leather makes so much more sense now. I have issues with people calling it leather when it is pu leather or vegan leather, leather is an animal hide and I feel misled if they don't say that

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I would hope for transparency for whatever the materials are.

👀 oh myyyyy

Do u think the chanel 19 is same leather then because usa won’t repair the 19 lambskin even black anymore. Do u think it’s good lamb or ?

I think the pink 22 P bag has a plasticized coating on top of a leather which is peeling off!

Chanel should be upfront about what there bags are made of it looks like bonded leather to me thanks 🙏

@katemiller7874

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Yes that’s what I thought. Not a durable leather

Nowadays everything in made out of cheap material luxury and non-luxury but the price keeps going up. I don't understand why the price keeps increasing but I am assuming due to the cost of labor. Maybe that's the reason for using cheaper material to help balance the manufacturing cost.

Video starts at 4:00

Please excuse this example , decades ago when you purchased a washing machine or major appliance , it was built to last for 20 or 3O years and worth repairing if need be. Now they are made to last 10 yrs ( if you are lucky)This is just another example of poor workmanship and why the vintage items were made to last and not disposable like current models . They are not meant to last or worth the cost of repairing so you have to keep replacing them with new ones.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely. Manufactured obsolescence is real (and terrible) 😔

Give this woman a Chanel 22 to tear apart so we can inflate the Chanel ballon! Super informative video, thank you! I enjoy my luxury bags, but have a creeping feeling that we are being ridiculed by these superbrands, laughing all the way to the bank. I am starting to have bad feeling in my mouth....Luxury isn't luxury anymore, and I really appreciate being educate in what real quality means. I'd rather pay for a non branded good quality item than just for a brand name.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 you're the third or fourth person to suggest this. I wouldn't say no to a gifted Chanel 22 for dissection 😂

Thank you so much!, 🧐I think I always missed you saying your name, and I couldn’t find it on instagram too? What your name !🤓

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I actually haven't shared my name publicly 😅 I'm not 100% comfortable with it yet.

@chenyi7387

2 жыл бұрын

That’s totally cool :) thanks for sharing things that you’re comfortable sharing. I never comment on someone’s channel so much. I really enjoy your content!

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ☺️🙏💕

I don't own any Chanels, tbh I've never even been interested in the brand, but I have been SO invested in this Chanel 22 drama lol. Unbelievable that people are getting crappy bonded leather for what, $5000? People like to make fun of luxury buyers, saying you're just paying for the name and a year ago I would have argued with that, but sadly it's starting to become true. Prices are going up while quality is going down. I have one new LV bag(well, 5 months old now) and a vintage Chantilly from '87 and while I love them both, the new one is definitely NOT worth what I paid. It feels really thin and flimsy, and even though I baby it and clean it after every few uses the leather is showing some wear and discoloration already. I'd try to exchange it but the next one would probably do the same thing, plus I had to pick through every piece the store had to find one with proper alignment to begin with. The vintage is so much more well made- the canvas is much thicker, perfect alignment, sturdy leather whose only flaws are from 35 years of use. I feel like it's going to outlive the new one.

It has to be bonded leather, or some other artificial proprietary coating. Dacob's bag had a gouge that looked hella deep. Hard to say but looks to be 1-2mm deep. I don't think there's any other explanation. Could it be an experimental material? I've had cheap fake leather bags in the past, some actually lasted many years. So even if its bonded I'd expect it to be more durable than the 22. Seems like the coating they used is not adhering to the base like oil and water. They should recall the bags.

@classicswithaquirk

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think that even regardless of what the bag is actually made of, there’s a huge problem with the painting process they used. I really wonder what Chanel is going to do. I’m hoping that if enough people do bring in their bags with quality issues, something will happen.